/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

Does Tempus have a future or are they doomed to irrelevancy? None of the girls even mention them anymore and they're resorting to collabing with smaller companies like Jewcorp

[Anonymous No.]

>>57902316
they're a shambling corpse at this point, there is no future. even the most braindead retarded nigger could see they're a money sink, surely someone can talk Yagoo out of wasting more resources

[Anonymous No.]

>>57902316
only ones that brought some kind of eyes to them just up and left. they'll just be there at this point like stars JP

[Anonymous No.]

>>57902316
They lose any chance to be something the moment they ask to drop the collab ban earlier to be able leech the girls.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57902316
Cover won't axe them for pulling lesser numbers, but I don't think they are going to meddle with the girls anymore

[Anonymous No.]

>>57902316
bau bau, motherfucker

[Anonymous No.]

>>57902316
Slow incline through networking and an eventual new gen

[Anonymous No.]

>>57902804
dyrbi

[Anonymous No.]

Stars as a whole was doomed when they fired the pink guy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57902316
They fucked up HololiveEN's reputation and profitability, they also fucked up Holostars' goodwill that was built over YEARS.
Japanese companies will demand someone to resign and take responsibility, if that hasn't happened already.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57903013
It worked for Roberu.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57903193
Kaoru...

>>57903426
>Roberu barely collabs with stars
>makes it on his own by leeching Mea and her circle
im starting to see a pattern

[Anonymous No.]

>>57902316
>Does Tempus have a future
sadly no
as much as i enjoyed vesper and magni, those 2 shared about 50% of all views the 8 boys got, and losing that is devastating to the branch, the only one actual getting numbers now is bettel and if rrats are correct then he's the next to go
>None of the girls even mention them anymore
i don't rly care about that desu, it's not like that would change anything anyway
>resorting to collabing with smaller companies like Jewcorp
idc about that either, let them play their games with whoever they want

[Anonymous No.]

>>57902316
they'll stay in their own lane for the most part
what's worrying is that the higher-ups might pull some strings behind the scenes to keep them afloat

[Anonymous No.]

I'm gonna give them the benefit of the doubt and say they have 1 last shot.
A new batch of homos that are so good it gets everyone's attention. If they can't do that, then they're actually done for.

[Anonymous No.]

They aren't even getting better numbers than the jp homos anymore with fagni and vesper gone. Their top performer now is the clown and he's below Roberu, the others are indistinguishable from random mid tier jp homos. And they have to deal with the inevitable slow decline of EN vtubing. It's over for them.

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>>57903587
Most sane homo watcher. A homobeggar would beg the girls to collab and harass the girls if they don't. Bias aside, only the collab stream seemed to have any views; afterward, it did nothing for the boys' views and for the girls, actually lost some views.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57903266
Good, it was Yagoo's pet project and he should take the fault.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57902316
Feels like they're a Bettel graduation away from being put into 'maintenance mode'.

[Anonymous No.]

The boys were doing bad right after announcements but their morale and content improved basically across the board shortly after Vesper and Magni left if you watch their streams. The Rust arc and Tempus week streams have been good and a few of them have started dropping pretenses more and to act more like affectionate shitheads

I'm really wondering if the two that left were actually an internal problem for the other talents too with how radical the change has been

[Anonymous No.]

The funny thing is that I would have said Yes, Tempus is done… but after watching RUST week and the first two days of their anniversary celebration I unironically think they’re gonna be fine. They’ll never get big noombers but Stars fans don’t care about that. They seemed to have so much genuine fun the last couple days that it made me wonder if having Vesper and Magni there WAS the problem.

[Anonymous No.]

Collabing with people outside is precisely the way people wanted them to go if they wanted collabs
That's literally part of Roberu's success

[Anonymous No.]

>>57904324
Can't wait. Hope it happens soon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57904144
and replace with what? Riku? that is even worst.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57905226
>They’ll never get big noombers but Stars fans don’t care about that.
Yea unfortunately it turns out that management does care and they're done funding your homos at a loss.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57902316
Honestly, I don't think axel or altare are good enough streamers on their own to sustain 3view CCV as an indie, so staying as a homo is probably the best case scenario for them

[Anonymous No.]

>>57906559
Two more weeks until they axe StarsJP! This time for sure bros! Believe in Jap-sama!

[Anonymous No.]

>>57906616
There is no way they could get another job that has similar pay too

[Anonymous No.]

>>57906691
>no more homofes
>no more homogra
>no more custom merch
Wow your boys sure are thriving sister, I'm so jealous

[Anonymous No.]

>>57903644
If it's the same strings that keep Anya and Iofi aloft then ok.

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>>57902316
Now it's the time where they have to make a name by themselves and not using the girls to be relevant. The most important part of that plan is Bettel, if he quits it's fucking over

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>>57907029
dont the JP boys not even get anniversary merch anymore or they have to choose between that and bday?

[Anonymous No.]

>>57907239
I have no idea since I don't watch them but that sounds very likely to me

[Anonymous No.]

>>57903762
If the Aruvn leaks about the polyglot vsinger are true, new homos are gonna be pretty decent they even rejected Will Stetson for the spot too

[Anonymous No.]

>>57902316
Tempus is dead and it feels so good I'm popping a boner

>>57902804
>incline
roru
>eventual new gen
rumao

[Anonymous No.]

>>57902316
>Does Tempus have a future or are they doomed to irrelevancy?
6 weeks of radio silence followed by a double termination will cause morale problems but they are doing well. Tempus won't get the numbers of HoloEN but management fully supports them. Cover will rush out Tempus 3 and next year Tempus will likely be added to the EN concert.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57903762
>A new batch of homos that are so good it gets everyone's attention.
Is that even possible? I don't mean specifically for the stars, I mean for male vtubers in general?
It just seems that a breakout gen of male chuuba is basically impossible at this point.
>muh luxienema
an event that's not-repeatable, at least not with Cover because of the china situation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57902316
StarsEN seriously needs their own Shinove if their most popular boys left.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57907808
>management fully supports them
Not anymore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57908027
I keep saying that Cover needs to poach the current /asp/ies
A lot of male ones are too good to stay indies.
Could grab Daiya and Kankuro to do singing, Digby could make a stars hologra and Dante could continue being Ame but bara.
They all get along too. It's basically the perfect Stars gen but it will never happen

[Anonymous No.]

>>57908027
i looked back at the top luxiem clips and i feel like that era is not coming back anytime soon. for english speakers it was the first big time watching anime ikemen go OMG IM CUMMING HAHA and i feel like that humor has gone away now since it mostly relied on shock value. the fact that each of them declined so hard seems like direct evidence of it. then again, clippers still seem to crave that shit. but will male vtubers ever be that big again, even if its in a different way? honestly i dont think so either

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>>57908316
The company that headhunted Shinove just exploded from their CEO getting sued. All their talents are getting transferred to other companies in order to continue their activities so in a chance that their Head Talent Manager will go back to Cover, Holostars may get a second chance to succeed as Shinove is a genuine miracle worker in getting projects and collabs for Holostars done.

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>>57902316
Ever since JAP took over they've been in shambles, and now they're banned from collabing with Hololive EN, and none of the girls dare to go against lord Jap

[Anonymous No.]

>>57903266
>They fucked up HololiveEN's reputation and profitability
Good
>they also fucked up Holostars' goodwill that was built over YEARS
How much good did that "goodwill" do?

[Anonymous No.]

>>57908027
>Is that even possible?
There is only one way. Invite content creators with a big following that are also interested in working with Cover as their side-project while also allowing their RMs to continue on their main projects.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57908867
Fire JAP like Cover fired Omega and get Shinove instead. JAP and Omega literally destroyed all the hard work everyone put in Holopro throughout the years. I want these chomos to get bankrupt, seriously.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57908316
Jap is their shinobe but instead of make them keep alive he's sunking them a bit and a bit make it look like bad management instead of self sabotage

[Anonymous No.]

>>57902316
The vesper and mag saga put a huge blemish on them. They won't ever recover.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57907808
>Tempus will likely be added to the EN concert.

It would be unironically, completely over if that were to ever happen

[Anonymous No.]

>>57908720
en vtubers in general will never be that big again, forget about male chuubas

[Anonymous No.]

>>57907808
I think putting them as back to back features or seperate but part of the same overall event would work

[Anonymous No.]

>>57906559
>said during a week long anniversary event
Unitroons in full cope mode I see

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>>57909079
M-m-m-m, I don't know. I think he is just a jealous psychopathic faggot. People like that exist in huge quantities in entertainment and marketing businesses. Encountered some of these on the latter. They would do everything to fire rising stars while keeping straight face. Reason? None, just literally being salty.

[Anonymous No.]

They'll be fine, assuming you keep things in context. I don't see some great shift or incline happening for them, but they also don't need that. Like the JP Stars, most will be mid tier and niche. I can see them EVENTUALLY getting a new gen, but that being dependent on if the current group can manage without going off the rails.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57902316
>Does Tempus have a future or are they doomed to irrelevancy?
Maybe, maybe not. It depends if their find their own footing in vtubing world.
>None of the girls even mention them anymore and they're resorting to collabing with smaller companies like Jewcorp
That's good thing. Collabs with Holos are just drama that don't benefit anyone.
There's a reason why on JP side Roberu is a biggest star.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57908867
>and now they're banned from collabing with Hololive EN
Since I've not seen anyone screeching about this online, I'll assume that this hasn't been confirmed?

[Anonymous No.]

>>57909342
>I'll assume that this hasn't been confirmed?
schizos rambling, you assume correct

[Anonymous No.]

>>57909342
Schizo shit. There is more distance between them, but it's not strictly banned

[Anonymous No.]

>>57908867
>>57909079
Jap is doing fine. His choices are unpopular but sensible.
It's important to keep in mind that Tempus HQ received massive support during Omega's tenure, they arguably got more support at debut than literally every other group across all Hololive branches. It ended up losing the company money, and it resulted in terrible volatile hiring.

Vesper and Magni were certainly the problems, the evidence has only kept mounting up against them. Management's faults are largely in being too kind to them, we know the models had to have been approved during Omega''s run of holoEN despite the poor behavior of the two boys in what was likely an appeasement to their individual numbers. Jap came and cleaned up the branch during the staff shake up that happened some months ago. Tempus VG unfortunately had to eat shit in this time, and the boys have been let go because their shit didn't play with Jap, but now the current Tempus activities have started ramping up again and all the remaining boys are better than they were before.

The reality is that as the situation develops, Vesper and Magni have only looked worse and worse and blaming management is a deflection from the idea that talents could possibly ever be at fault because we're equipped to automatically hate corporations around here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57909342
Correct. Many anons itt are taking the voices in their heads as facts, hence why there's no proof anywhere

[Anonymous No.]

>>57902316
Biggest mistake they made was hiring Magni and Vesper to begin with.
>None of the girls even mention them anymore
Good. If anything I think the girls were an unnecessary crutch that made it look like they couldn't stand on their own.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57909191
>event
What has this incredible event actually consisted of sister? A handful of collab streams and some underwhelming merch? Keep in mind that on the Hololive side anniversaries get huge 3D live concerts usually.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57909746
>made it look like they couldn't stand on their own
Can they? Now they're on their own and they are hugely unsuccessful. Flayon, Hakka and Axel can often be seen streaming to fewer than 500 viewers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57909879
>500 viewers
How is that unsuccessful? I watch a classic wow streamer who recently managed to get 100 viewers and was able to get partnered with twitch and can stream full time now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57909828
>3D live concert
What incredible huge 3D live concert did ID3 get in March sister?

[Anonymous No.]

>>57907808
>Rush them.
Here is the thing, does cover knows what kind of direction they want with the next installment of Stars?
They have to be diferent from what came next. Say what you say about Vesper and Magni, but the two had stood out, especially Vesper, It gave me faith in Western Vtubing. Is a fucking waste he was a Menhera who was making up things, a poser.

Honestly, I don't think there is any good talent for Male Vtubing right now. And that is because those who do have the talent and charisma, and creativity usually just become flesh streamers.
Not only that, but can be viable to have that characteristics of charisma, banter, talent to entertaint from a fleshstreamer, and put inside a 2d model? Wouldn't the 2d anime model be detriment then? Just a mismatch?
How I wish non-anime models could be embraced...or I don't know, some sort of Hybrid.
Let's face it, Nijisanji has the Male Vtuber market by the balls in Japan with it's niji JP branch. Niji EN was popular thanks to Chinese audience, and they lost it.
Hell, the only alternative remaining would be Indonesia...And I got no fucking idea how it would be

[Anonymous No.]

>>57910059
>ID3
>3D
lol

[Anonymous No.]

For all the numberfag pignoise poking fingers at low numbers of Hololive EN (I'm not talking about Holostars): look at your calendar.

>The first day of school is the first day of an academic year. This is usually in August or September in the Northern Hemisphere

Haven't you noticed? SCs and merch stayed around the same, while only your precious NUMBERS went a little bit down. And don't tell me any shit like
>but but but Myth
It was in 2020 when every wagie or zoomer was at home.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57909475
don't make it so obvious jap san

[Anonymous No.]

To all the tourists who don't watch holostars, they've actually been doing better basically across the board since the firings. All rrrats and baits going forward should be adjusted with this in mind.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57910187
Exactly. No 3D, no 3D concert

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>>57908822
I now realise that Shinove is vtubing Kazuma Kiryu, who needs to be around for the Holostars (Tojo Clan) to thrive and if he walks away they go to shit. Also he seems like a cool guy that gets shit done generally.

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>>57910326
Okay, Nijisis, keep yapping. Sorry, we are not retarded, we won't believe your bullshit and we will still be asking for Cover to fix their shit. Holostars peak was at StarsEN debut. And recently JAP fucked everything up.

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>>57910326
>they've actually been doing better basically across the board since the firings
I see that even after what happened on the JP side the sisters are still happy to sabotage their precious boys. Management could not have been any clearer with all the things they took away from the JP Stars due to their constant failure to grow and we're still doing the whole "muh boys are just fine with their small comfy fanbase" song and dance?

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>>57902316
I wanted to stay neutral with them and let them do their own thing just like the jp stars, that was thrown out of the window once the "brotubers" had the special treatment of having the collab ban lifted earlier to be paired together with the girls, any good faith I could have for that branch was lost that moment and I hope they fucking dissolve, they earned too many negative points.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57910511
>>57910537
All I'm saying is that their morale, stream quality, and numbers were at an all time low even before the two month "break" the suspended boys were put on.
Since ripping off the band-aid, basically everyone that isn't Gavis or Flayon have started recovering.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57910769
>the two most successful members leave
>the remaining bottom feeders are happy
Classic failure mentality, they're probably relieved from not having to compare themselves to their more successful branch mates anymore. This is why they'll never get anywhere.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57909058
>Jap saves the EN branch
>implying he should be fired
Homosisters are really something else kek

>>57909191
>Unitroons
Nice projection, tranny

[Anonymous No.]

>>57911071
>saves
How so?

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>>57911489
>stops homo collabs that are killing the branch
>debuts hugely successful new gen after a company wide record breaking time with no new members
Yea I wonder how

[Anonymous No.]

>>57910701
You're mad about Assvent's special treatment as well, yes?

[Anonymous No.]

>>57911071
>no u
Every time KEK

[Anonymous No.]

>>57903587
What are the rrats about Bettel?

[Anonymous No.]

>>57912088
Actually yes. I hate the constant lesbian shit (my oshi should only care about me) and I'm glad Gura came back to humble them.
>>57912301
Bettel is too popular for a shit brand like Holostars to properly handle and he's still friends with Magni, who some believe is convincing him to go independent. If Bettel leaves, Flayon most likely isn't sticking around because they're best bros. It's one thing to lose one half of HQ, but to lose one half of VG would sink the ship for good, and would probably lead to more paranoid, restrictive management even with Hololive talent.

[Anonymous No.]

They might keep Ragus around to help wrangle Kobo but the rest of them? All signs point to no.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57913012
Ragus is funny

[Anonymous No.]

>>57913012
>keeping Regis around to continually damage Kobo's viewership
Not if they're smart.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57913144
>damage Kobo's viewership
>literally everyone loves their collabs
There is a huge world outside this board and your sistercords.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57902316
Who?

[Anonymous No.]

>>57913240
IIRC the whole saga didn't hurt Kobo's numbers at all yeah, Regis just had his personal brand of menhera episode where he decided he hated feeling like her sidekick and like a leech so he divorced himself from her even though no one was actually complaining.

[Anonymous No.]

Don't they still get better numbers than NijiEN though?

[Anonymous No.]

>>57913509
Correct. It was his tantrum with a mix of imposter syndrome, Kobo probably was confused by that but both her and her viewers shrugged it off.

[Anonymous No.]

I say this as someone that likes the boys and thinks Bettel is one of the funniest streamers out there right now; the Stars brand is cursed and their future is to slowly trudge along with no growth while remaining in the shadow of their sister branch (and tbf, they're still in the top 0.01% of all streamers).
It genuinely seemed like Cover managed to break the curse with Tempus early on. A wide-reaching meme, excellent chemistry, kino skit streams like Judge Magni, high effort music projects like Bad End Night, and yes even entertaining interactions with the girls (Kronii's therapy stream was prime cringekino).

But those things can't thrive in this kind of environment. It may have been more under the surface at first, but the weirdness and hostility had been hanging over Tempus' neck from the beginning, both from the fanbase and the talents. There was no consensus on how integrated the branch should be, with 1/3 of the girls giving open support, 1/3 passive support, and a few ignoring them to the point of it arguably being malicious (Gura trying to stream over their debuts and turning the camera every time a Star's name showed up in Minecraft). That got worse over time and any attempts at integration are gone with a new debut coming and going with a grand total of zero interactions. With no integration, the fanbase needs to come from elsewhere, a fanbase that probably can't exist until we have a clear answer on what Stars actually are supposed to be. Are they male versions of Hololive, restrictions and all? Are they meant to appeal to women who have completely different wants when it comes to content creation? Are they brotubers meant to appeal to current popular male streamers, but with an avatar? And how does all of this square with an increasingly hostile fanbase that don't want them to exist?

In the end, a combination of them coming too late (the time to debut StarsEN was 2020-early 2021 when HoloEN had a lot of Trash Taste fans and weren't allergic to male interactions) and bad luck/management changes screwing over the wide-reaching content they DID have (Judge Magni, Raft stream unity, music projects) has made it nigh impossible to pull them out of the hole they've been thrown in. Getting 4+ god tier entertainers for their next gen isn't enough, they'd need exposure outside of the current Holo fanbase and possibly a complete rebrand. At this point, I doubt Cover even wants to dedicate more resources to them, especially with the IPO. They'd need a gen 3 miracle at this point, which didn't work for StarsJP even if it was heading that way (things would probably look pretty different now if Kaoru stayed).

[Anonymous No.]

>>57913509
>complain if he does collabs
>complain if he stops doing collabs
Can you guys choose one and stick with it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>57913713
Holostars in general struggles in viewership compared to Nijisanji. Altare and Bettel can kind of keep up with normal Nijisanji on occasion but not Luxiem.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57902316
>Tempus

[Anonymous No.]

>>57914729
Integration will never happen as long as the majority of the fanbase is apathetic at best regarding them, and trying to force it will only make things worse for the dudes because they'll always be the first to get shat on (tho unlike with Nijisanji Hololive fans are much more willing to shit on the company as well). Putting the Stars under the Hololive Production brand was a mistake, calling the "Holo-something" was mistake and all of them, both JP and EN, came in way too late when Anycolor already had the male vtuber market by the balls and the absolute majority of Hololive's audience was invested because it was a girls-only group. Bringing an audience who believes all the girls SHOULD interact with them also didn't do them any favors and you can't ignore how negative their reaction was when IRyS explicitly said she isn't interested in collabing with the dudes and again to a lesser extent when she confirmed taht there wouldn't be any vc with them during the OW shill stream. Males under the Holo brand will always be an anathema and there's literally nothing that Cover can do to change this save from replacing the ""problematic"" elements of the fanbase with normies who are fine with male vtubers but they would go bankrupt before ever accomplishing that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57914904
I like him because he is kinda like if Ina was a guy. And also Kobo really generated lots of cgct funny with him.

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>>57902316
Their best option for any male vtubers in Holopro would be to ditch recruiting for Holostars altogether. No one wants male idols in the west. They should recruit a new branch of brotuber game streamers with a new label. As long as they keep the faggotry up in Tempus with Altaire as their poster boy, StarsEN is a waste of time.

[Anonymous No.]

The fact that Mori is not trying to help them bothers me
Think whatever you want I don't watch the homos
But she was all about making friends and "they are my sons" and shit
And when they need help she ignores them?
Mori is a fucking leech, I guess they are not useful to her anymore, she's busy with advent now
I thought she was a tomboy and she really just wanted male friends, gosh he's fake as fuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>57918181
Sure thing, Bob. And I hope Hololive destroys itself!

[Anonymous No.]

>>57918894
Vesper and Magni's betrayal clearly rubbed her the wrong way.

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>>57903556
It's okay if it's his wife Mea. He just doesn't know they're married.

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>>57919007
You sisters are so fucking retarded that it hurts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57918894
>And when they need help she ignores them?
Tempus is such a piece of shit that even Mori bailed on them.
>Mori is a fucking leech
rumao. How was she supposed to leech off Tempus when they were much smaller than her? How does that work? Please explain, sister.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57918894
>>57919104
She's only ever really cared about Magni and Vesper. Her last collab with Altare and Axel was Halloween last year and has never collabed with VG. I don't even know if she's even talked to them on Twitter. When VG was announced she opted to respond to Magni instead of the new members

[Anonymous No.]

>>57902316
>Does Tempus have a future
Considering they just had an esport sponsorship where they curbstomped the girls, probably on that end.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57919518
I thought that was Stars JP

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>>57919518
That was the JP homos, not tempiss. And even so literally no one liked that shit and the whole project might the single most hated thing Cover ever did when even the hug box that is Reddit fucking panned it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57918894
>The fact that Mori is not trying to help them bothers me
If they got fired there is nothing she can do to help them. Mori won't do anything with Magni or Vesper at the moment but after management calms down there might be a collab between their RMs.

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>>57912722
>I'm glad Gura came back to humble them.
This didn't happen btw.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57919518
See, not even their 'fans' watch stream

[Anonymous No.]

>>57920108
That's literally Gura's thing, she disappears and only comes back when a new gen debuts to remind them who their mommy is.

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>>57919739
They're considered alumni so they couldn't have been fired

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>>57920293
That might just be damage control to try and keep Yagoo's dream alive.

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>>57902316
Take your meds, dumbass

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>>57920293
You don't Soviet Union erase someone if they just graduated. Even Kaoru has a reference in one of the covers the JP dudes made and he was explicitly terminated.

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>>57920378
Like when they fired 2 members of the JP branch within the same year?

[Anonymous No.]

>>57920126
>>57919611
>>57919569
No the other anons are right, i read it as "Holostars" in general, not Holostars EN, AKA Tempus

But seeing that they just did a 99% JP forced collab, kicking down the EN door will be easy with Mori, Kronii, and Ame there

[Anonymous No.]

>>57920594
>Why would they remove someone who's no longer in the song?
Why indeed

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>>57920594
>Everyone in NijiEN can speak freely and openly about Nina and Mysta
>Nina was even heard in the background of a stream well after she left, to no punishment

I refuse to believe Holostars EN is MORE oppressive than fucking Nijisanji EN

[Anonymous No.]

>>57920184
this is also fanfiction btw

[Anonymous No.]

They're doing fine, stop shitposting

[Anonymous No.]

>>57920654
>kicking down the EN door will be easy with Mori, Kronii, and Ame
Mori and Kronii only gave a shit about the two homos who are gone and Watson barely interacts with them nowadays. And again the whole hlzntl project is the single most hated thing Cover ever did and had critics literally everywhere. The only place that was mostly positive are the Youtube comments where they can straight up censor any criticism and I believe someone spotted accounts with those weird, string-like names being positive about that garbage.

>>57920755
You missed the rest of my comment, fucktard? If they just graduated why they're going this far to completely erase his existence when Kaoru, who was terminated, got a reference? Sana is still in Rise and was part of the chibi plushies whose designs were made by her and doom and gloom are present on IRyS's 2.0 and those were also designed by her. Even fucking Rushia is in shit Sankisei did after she was fired, so why the fuck is Vesper getting the Yezhov treatment when he's an alum?

>>57920862
No, this is just proof that the "graduation" was a lie and those two were fired for a reason that Cover would rather not talk about.

>>57920943
>full branch collab
>barely over 4k
>fine
These niggers were getting over 10k 8 months ago.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57921031
>"You missed the rest of my comment, fucktard?"
>proceeds to miss the response that did not, in fact, miss the rest of his post
Okay, let's try a direct response. You acknowledge that both Kaoru and Rushia were terminated yet still get referenced. Why, than, would Vesper and Magni be treated differently? Additionally, if management were to try to erase them, why are the remaining members still talking about them?

[Anonymous No.]

>>57920594
This is hilarious. Fuwamoco in the corner makes it even better somehow.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57921994
I'm showing proof that management erased Vesper on a music video that was 100% done before the "graduation" announcement as seen by the photo that they forgot to edit. Rushia was also (mostly) erased from anything she was part of in HoloExpo except the playing cards deck because those were already printed by the time she got the boot. If management didn't had any issues with the menhera retard they wouldn't give him the Yezhov treatment but for some reason they did and it makes no sense if they parted in amicable ways.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57922289
>I'm showing proof that management erased Vesper on a music video that was 100% done before the "graduation" announcement
You mean during the 2 months of stopped activities? Which would include recording songs? And you're positive that the guy who constantly procrastinates everything for some reason didn't procrastinate this time? If those pictures are supposed to be a reference to Tempus members than why would there only be pictures of the members participating in the song plus Vesper of all people? He didn't record his part, it doesn't make sense including him in imagery that's clearly supposed to be of the singers, therefore he was removed. Hence was Sana's part stayed and why Kaoru and Rushia are only references in places where they would be relevant.

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>>57923099
Are you fucking blind? Explain why there's a photo of the bara fag with the other half looking like a bad photoshop attempt? MVs aren't fucking made before the song is ready and the recordings often happen with months of antecedence so it makes no sense that the menhera fag was there in the first place if he didn't record his part.

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>>57923502
>"the recordings often happen with months of antecedence"
>Same guy who waited 2 weeks before his birthday to record a cover
>Same guy who screwed over other people's projects because he waited too long
>Same guy who was prevented from doing any activity for 2 months
Yes anon surely this time he was responsible and recorded his part as soon as possible

[Anonymous No.]

>>57924155
And if he didn't record his part there wouldn't be any photos in the MV that featured him.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57902316
they lost their future the moment luxiem debuted first.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57924220
There would be his he was supposed to be in it in the first place. You expect them to hold off on making the music video for him to come back, record his part, than spend however long it takes to animate the whole this so they can finally hold the anniversary in October or something?

[Anonymous No.]

The attempt of the fleshtuber and the orc faggot shills to shoehorn them into tempiss after all this is hilarious.
Remember your unity meme, sisters.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57902316
They are pretty successful if you didn't compare it to the girls. Sure hell is better to be tempus then 2view indie. There are always non-zero chance they can catch the lucky star breakout.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57919518
>Tempus
>brings up stars JP

[Anonymous No.]

>>57902316
Honestly, i thought it was over. But morale in the group quickly recouped and the anniversary collabs have proved to me that not only can they survive without them, but they can thrive without the menhera bullshit the quitters brought. Bettel i was worried would fly the coop too but he's proven by now that he's in for the long haul. What happens next will depend on their efforts and if the guys are willing to actually improve. We shall see.

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>>57912722
Bettel was not popular in his PL and i think hes very comfortable with his position and support in holostars. He wants to sing and do concerts, and he cant do that as an indie. And while he is friends with magni, he is also VERY close with his gen. Additionally, bettel has one of the best male models in holostars, and one of the best period. Not to mention he isnt a irresponsible promise breaking menhera like the recently departed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57924948
The problem is since they debuted so late, they'll never have the numbers of the bigger indie streamers or Nijisanji. Having to play the role of idols probably doesn't help either.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57920594
>You don't Soviet Union erase someone if they just graduated. Even Kaoru has a reference in one of the covers the JP dudes made and he was explicitly terminated.
I guess management is furious with them since that was an extreme decision. There is no financial reason to memory hole Vesper and Magni from a group MV so that must have been ordered by someone in upper management. Cover really did have the Tempus anniversary delayed so they could remove them from merch.

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>>57920943
That 4k is literally the entirety of the Tempiss fanbase