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57877575 No.57877575 [Reply] [Original]

Guy, i need help ...i might be crazy.
When i checked before going to sleep they each went above 60k sub, when i checked this morning, they were back to this (picture)
Was it a dream? Or did they really drop?

>> No.57877706

Yeah they were culled. Not sure why Cover are being retards again, you are way more likely to be culled with zero videos which is why all of Advent had shorts on their channel from day 1.

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>>57877575
they got hit hard, yeah

>> No.57877786

>>57877575
It's called a sub cull yes. Lots of vtubers gens get hit with one before debut.

>> No.57877814

So it's youtube doing its job or were they found out botting or something?

>> No.57877859

>>57877575
even dev_is channel goes back to 98K to 85K

>> No.57877900

Looks like they got sub-culled. It's a known youtube phenomena that's happened to Council, Holo X, and multiple Nijisanji and Nijisanji EN waves at debut. Sucks because Advent avoided it so people thought it might be gone, but no such luck for ReGloss.

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>>57877814
not r

>> No.57877992

>>57877900
>>57877786
>>57877706

Thanks guys, i didn't knew about this phenomenon.

>> No.57878046

>>57877900
nah it happened to advent too, just wasn't a very big one

>> No.57878192

>>57877575
this happen all the time one of nijisanji liver channel got deleted by youtube

>> No.57878310

>>57877814
No it's a common thing that happens to all kinds of popular vtuber groups at debut. It *is* related to anti-botting but it's an overreaction by a poorly programmed system to a brand new channel suddenly getting a lot of subs. It's also a complete crapshoot as to whether you'll get culled or not.

Lazulight-Culled except Finana
Obsydia-Not culled
Council-Culled
Ethyria-Not Culled
Holo X-Culled
Luxiem-Culled
Noctyx-Culled
iLuna-Not Culled
Tempus-Not Culled
Tempus2- Not Culled
ID3-Not Culled
Xsoliel-Culled
Krisis-Culled (I think?)
Advent-Not Culled
Most but not all of the Niji JP VTA waves have been culled. It's all extremely annoying.

>> No.57878449

>>57877706
They have videos on there channel, though, dummy.

>> No.57878502

>>57878046
It happens to everyone to a minor extent, that's just how it's supposed to work, and that small loss probably is actual bots being removed. It's when you lose tens of thousands of subs (or hundreds of thousands for Holo X/Council) that the system has gone haywire.

>> No.57878599

>>57878192
whos nijianji liver channel got deleted by youtube?

>> No.57878658

>>57878449
Don’t think the 10 second debut “trailers” are doing anything compared to the shorts the Advent girls put out. I’m sure viewership on the videos themselves makes a difference as well.

>> No.57878847

Regloss so much of a failure they culled 15~20k subs when Advent didn't have any problem before.

>> No.57878877

>>57878658
DEV_IS main channel ALSO hit significantly as well considering it has 10 videos and a 3+ minutes music video that has 500k+ views, had a ccv of 20k+ during its premier and is trending.

>> No.57880616

>>57878599
Forget which one, it was completely unrelated to debut sub cull though. It was one of the older members who showed gore on his stream or something, got it deleted and Nijisanji had to make a new one for him. Somehow this didn't count as evasion because corporate talent or something idk.

>> No.57880833

>>57877575
If they were an EN gen they would actually be fucking doomed with all these shortcomings but holoJP has the biggest fanbase with a ton of viewers so i can’t imagined them struggling much post debut with JP being so big that they can easily bounce back

>> No.57881084

>>57880616
I think that's Mashiro

>> No.57884834

>>57880616
>gore
QRD?
was it by accident or were they just retarded?

>> No.57885369
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57885369

Uhhh, is YT just bugging? There's no way...

>> No.57886051

>>57885369
JESUS that's brutal

>> No.57886066

>>57877575
>>57885369
Yeah, it was Jewtube bots committing genocide on suspected subscription
Happen with active creators sometimes, but more frequent with 'empty' account like this.

>> No.57886252

>>57877575
Eh, numberfagging is useless to gauge their "success", anyway.
It's a niche branch with sole purpose of taking off weight of idol activities from main girls. They seems also to be more or less made purely for Japanese audience.
They gonna "make it" when their concerts and music will be making numbers and rest of the girls will be able to rest.

>> No.57886317

>>57885369
lmao

>> No.57886401

>>57885369
>ISREAL

Holy... now i understand what's going on but it's still brutal to see.

>> No.57886412

>>57885369
AAIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>> No.57886461

>>57878310
Holo X and Advent did get culled if I recall, but not that much

>> No.57886503

>>57885369
HOLY FUCK?

>> No.57886550

I'm confused how the "sub cull" actually happens. Are we meant to believe all the numbers removed were bots and are now banned? If so, what reason do random bots have to follow these accounts? No one suspects Cover to bot-sub them, right?
Then are the subscribers legitimate YT accounts like yours and mine? Does YT see an influx of subs on ReGLOSS"s new accounts and assumes that's suspicious? Does it randomly un-sub people's accounts and force them to sub again? Does it just arbitrarily reduce the sub count by an amount and make no adjustments to any subscribing accounts?

>> No.57886573

imagine being dead on arrival because youtube's algo is being gay. this is fucking insane. even sana's cull is nothing compared to this

>> No.57886611

>>57886550
>I'm confused how the "sub cull" actually happens. Are we meant to believe all the numbers removed were bots and are now banned? If so, what reason do random bots have to follow these accounts? No one suspects Cover to bot-sub them, right?
No they just revoke your subscription. It happens often with some of my favorites (especially related to swords and medieval shit)

>> No.57886659

>>57886550
I've never had my sub removed from anyone

>> No.57886693

>>57886550
The "it's all bots" explanation makes zero sense when you consider that this is a HoloJP affiliated project and they can easily get more than 10k fucking subs
What happens is that youtube sees a bunch of accounts subbing to a group of newly created accounts with little activity and flags them as bots
The subscribers are legitimate, but youtube doesn't know that. What we don't know is how the "cull" works with subs. Does it unsub people or does it just "hide" your sub so that you still appear to be subbed but don't show up in metrics? No one knows.

>> No.57886705

>>57886659
you weren't subbed to azki? i was unsubbed from her twice.

>> No.57886733

>>57886550
YT and just removes your sub from another account, and if you never notice you'll stay unsubbed
This has happened to non-vtuber youtubers for nearly a decade now, it just fucking happens for some reason

>> No.57886784

I got removed from the main channel and kanade only, it seems to be random as fuck

>> No.57886818

This entire debut was handled so stupidly at every level, I'm convinced omegay got "promoted" to handling jp waves

>> No.57886910

>>57878310
Advent did have a small cull
Only around 10k total at the worst though, most not even that high.

>> No.57887057

>>57886461
Holo X got culled a ton, about 180k subs each. Just a little bit under Council's -200k. Advent sub cull was negligible.

>> No.57887210

>>57877575
huh? are you fucking retarded? the momentum is incredibly weak and slow for hololive members debut buff

i was constantly checking those numbers yesterday but what is "a dream"? lol they just fucking slowly get viewers. very weak numbers.

>> No.57887247

can confirm, i was unsubscribed from Ao

>> No.57887318

>>57886733
In that case why don't people sub again if that happens? If they don't recover their numbers, doesn't that show that people just sub and forget.

>> No.57887398

>>57887318
tbf, some of them don't even know that they were unsubscribed. it'll take time for them to notice and sub again

>> No.57887646

>>57887318
Youtube doesn't notify you when it happens

>> No.57887674

>>57886693
its happen 2x in the main channel also>>57878877

>> No.57887809

>>57886818
If he keeps failing like this they might have to make him CEO

>> No.57887862

>>57887210
I admit that was poorly phrased but i just meant this as a way to convey my confusion to what was happening.
No needs to be so agressive.

>> No.57888042
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>>57887210
>huh? are you fucking retarded? the momentum is incredibly weak and slow for hololive members debut buff
>i was constantly checking those numbers yesterday but what is "a dream"? lol they just fucking slowly get viewers. very weak numbers.

>> No.57888064

>>57885369
KEK look at these indies.

>> No.57888111

>>57887862
they barely got 15k-20k subs in one day despite in their early debut phase. you do realise even advent members got 200k-300k subs in the first few days

stop being a lame ass dramanigger and making a stuid thread then.

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>>57888064
>KEK look at these indies.

>> No.57888453

>>57888111
k i got it you're just an insecure fag lashing out on the net.
Touch some grass.

>> No.57888464

>>57887210
>>57888111
>20k subs
anon lmao they did get subs removed, see >>57885369

>> No.57888499

>>57887398
Sure, but then they should recover their numbers but most of the time they don't. So it does show there are people who did not really care.

>> No.57888616
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YT culling 2x and going to debut september 9/10
vs
debut 4 months ago and 5 months ago

>> No.57889679

>>57877575
Why does this branch exist? What makes it different from JP7?

>> No.57889683

>>57885369
the floppiest of flop group

this always happens to nearly every mainstream vtuber especially new ones, but whats funny is this actually damages them so fucking hard they cant recover the numbers.

>> No.57889745

>>57889679
This is 裏7.

>> No.57889777

I wanna know why the 15k DIDN'T get culled, what did they do different than the rest?

>> No.57889806

>>57889777
Obviously I'm not a bit, that's why I didn't get culled from Ririka and Hajime

>> No.57889945

>>57886550
They remove blind subs, i.e. people who subbed but didn't watch anything. If it's people who care, they will resub, bots and the people who don't care won't.

>> No.57890045

Remember kids, Holo getting culled is Youtube being a retard and its anti-botting AI overreacting, Niji getting culled is Youtube doing its job taking out Nijibot

>> No.57890146

>>57877575
>I check the number before sleep
Only available help is mental hospital

>> No.57890392

>youtube culling gifted memberships
>now subs

>> No.57890476

>>57885369
This is fucking brutal. The ghost of susan showing zero mercy

>> No.57891238

>>57886693
It does both. I got unsubbed from half of the Council back in the day and I also encountered some of the channels I used to be subbed just entirely being hidden from my feed even when the person is streaming.

>> No.57891274

>>57890045
This but unironically. Only nijikeks use bots, what the fuck do you even try to imply?

>> No.57891309
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>>57891238-kun reports

It happened again, lmao. It literally unsubbed me from all of them.

>> No.57891329

>>57891309
well, except one

*fix*

>> No.57891368

But what does regloss even mean?

>> No.57891372

>>57877706
They had videos. It has nothing to do with channels being flagged or something, it's because people subscribe without watching those videos.

>> No.57891449

>>57891368
DEV_IS is the name of the sister (in relation to Hololive) branch.
ReGLOSS is the name of the 1st gen of DEV_IS branch.
A-Chan literally explained it yesterday on stream.

>> No.57891502

>>57889679
A-chan was saying how this group will be more group-oriented. I'm thinking like popular girl groups that function more as a unit than as individuals. Not a fan of the idea but we shall see

>> No.57891552

>>57891238
The hiding from the feed is craziest thing, like it unsubs you right and it will never recommend any of their new videos, so you think oh they probably didn't post anything or you just forgot because there is no video to remind you of them, but then you check channel and it has bunch of videos that have never been recommended to you by YouTube, crazy stuff. I hate how sometimes I miss livestream, because it literally won't show them, unless I click on lives page or whatever and I almost never open YouTube for streams, if I see stream I like I'll watch otherwise I won't even think of it.

>> No.57891674

>>57891372
>>57878877
>vsinger gen
> People hit the subscribe button but skip their song

>> No.57891678

>>57891502
yeah but will they stream at all, will all of those be group collabs?
sounds like its a waste of time to sub to each of them, migh as well just sub to the "group" channel if all song are going to be uploaded there

>> No.57891784

>>57891674
>>vsinger gen
>> People hit the subscribe button but skip their song

>>57891372
>>57878877

so whats your point anon?

>> No.57891891

>>57891372
Your theory makes sense, but I've only watched Kanade's video and i'm still subscribed to all of the ReGLOSS members even after they got culled twice.

>> No.57891994

>>57891678
I get the impression it will be like kpop groups where they're almost always together but there are still people who have their favorites. Maybe stream together but have different pov

>> No.57892115

>>57891994
They can get all 5 POVs in DevIs. You do multiple streams in one channel.
Honestly, this whole thing reeks of Cover's incompetence when handling new branches.

>> No.57892165 [DELETED] 

Well then you mastered half of "Eat shit and die"
see if you can manage the rest

>> No.57892171

>>57892115
Weird, I don't really watch Hololive besides a few JP members now and then, but I expected more excitement for this from hardcore holofans. Isn't it a little too soon calling this first gen a botch?

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>>57891994
>>57892115

This makes me think that part of this is COVER wanting a branch that is entirely reliant on their corporate brand, and can never leave for greener pastures like other Holo members who are able to build up their own individual loyal fanbases. If they're always tied together they'll never be able to find success on their own

>> No.57892673

>>57885369
>>57877575
It's a good way to see how many real people actually care about this, once all the bots and empty accounts are removed.

>> No.57892801

>>57892171
Well, first of all, like some other anons in this board said, you shouldn't need to dig into a hololive official stream to find out what to expect from dev_is. They should provide concise and easy-to-find information to sell it on us. Even today we still don't know how exactly regloss is different compared to normal hololive streamers. Pre-Debut days are for building hype, not confusion.
Secondly, mixed collabs are always contentious with hardcore holofans. They just got off with bad press from Horizontal, a mixed gen esports project, and now 4/5ths of regloss are acknowledging the males before debut.

>>57892330
If they did, they wouldn't give the girls individual channels. But I could see Cover going for this route for future starsEN gens after the double graduations.

>> No.57892849

>>57877575
someone will screencap this post and post it on twitter captioned with "unemployed behavior" just saying

>> No.57892868

>>57892673
>bots and empty accounts
Except they remove normal accounts too. You can be a regular commenter and active hololive watcher and still get unsubbed. Or worse shadow-unsubbed where you see yourself as sub but you’re not counted in the numbers.
Youtube is completely retarded when it comes to anti-bot measures.

>> No.57892967

>>57886550
Considering 2/3 people got culled, we would be seeing a lot of people saying they were unsubbed and had to resub again. But nobody seems to be saying this. So we can conclude that either bot accounts were culled or many accounts are no longer counted in the total despite still being subbed.

>> No.57893044

>>57892967
>But nobody seems to be saying this.
??? Get outside of here

>> No.57893913

>>57893044
Where are they saying that? Do you realize how big of a number 2 in 3 people would be? The thread would be filled with people saying they got unsubbed if it actually happened.

>> No.57894079

does this happen all the time? worried if this will kneecap them or if its common enough that people don't even mind

>> No.57894197
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>>57877575
Can they at least beat Uproar?

>> No.57894230

>>57892868
someone was saying it but if you hasnt watched any of their videos you are unsubbed. this is why the normal accounts were unsubbed

>> No.57894635

>>57885369
Yagoo will have to step down. Hallelujah

>> No.57895185

>>57892801
They published the mission statement for holizontal and that was used against them. For this one you can't know!!!
>>57894230
I subbed to the two dark ones but didn't watch any videos. I didn't get culled there.

>> No.57898249

>>57877575
>Or did they really drop?
yes

>> No.57899827

>>57894197
yes

>> No.57900061

>>57894197
Probably. Honestly I'm kind of surprised at how well Holofags has managed to gatekeep it's community. They know what they want and this panning out to be not that

>> No.57903312

>>57877575
the fact that there is a separate group, leads to believe that it must be an idea of the shareholders to put some nepotism hires who want be in Hololive.

>> No.57903451

>>57903312
it's either some idea they know will flop or they plan to do things that will be disliked.. so they're isolating it.

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57906770

>>57894197
heros

>> No.57907535

>>57885369
I mean, I never subbed to them, I don't think I will until they stream and we actually find out what the fuck they are supposed to be about
Shiori caused me to no longer pre-sub to hololive girls going forward

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