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57454613 No.57454613 [Reply] [Original]

Why are they trying to be like AnyColor? Why can’t they be their self and different instead of copy AnyColor?

>> No.57454814

>>57454613
Define hololive.
Define anycolor.

>> No.57454846

>>57454613
AnyColor = iPhone
Cover = Android
>iPhone removed head jack
>Android removed it after 2 yrs
>iPhone removed home button
>android copies it
There are so many things android copied from iPhone

>> No.57454850

>>57454613
2% or YT play button Yatch?

>> No.57454878

>>57454613
Who?

>> No.57454947

>>57454613
YAGOO is doing that to get enough money for his side projects like Holo earth.

>> No.57454957

>>57454850
good luck learning English

>> No.57455162

When did hololive and nijisanji star?

>> No.57455211

>>57455162
"START"

>> No.57455409

>>57454846
Based comparison.
Android is more popular and I hate the iPhone.
Only contrarian hipster faggots like Apple.

>> No.57455471

>>57454947
Holo earth is a money pit while games like holocure even though not monetised are still generating revenue by being streaming content. Earth already has signs of a predatory monetisation model but it'll bite them in the ass because holo fans want to support their oshi not Cover so they'll continue to supa and buy merch instead

>> No.57455489

>>57454613
Learn English

>> No.57455545

>>57454613
ESL spotted

>> No.57456008

>>57455489
>>57455545
Is this how you’re coping? OP is literally stating facts. Come up with better arguments to defend.

>> No.57456099

>>57454613
Holy shit, I want whatever you're smoking, OP

>> No.57456117

Niji does what will sell
Holo does what is right

too bad investors and stakeholders only care about what will sell

>> No.57456230

Holo fans love talents more than the corporate
Niji fans love the corporate more than the livers
I wonder why

>> No.57456376

>>57456117
>too bad investors and stakeholders only care about what will sell
or what they think will sell, remember these guys only know how to get money from companies, not actually run them.

>> No.57456377

>>57454846
android is just the os you dumb niggerfaggot. kys for that supid ass take

>> No.57456414

>>57454613
Money

>> No.57456821

>>57454846
>covershills can't even metaphor properly

>>57456230
if that was true then holofags would watch vtubers before and after the holo logo

>> No.57457147

>>57454613
Don't let AnyColor live rent free in your head. Cover isn't doing the equivalent of their thing.

>> No.57457273
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57457273

I like hololive, but cover continues to make it harder and harder to support them. 2023 has been a ton of steps backwards, yet there has been a lot of good moments as well. For every expo 2023 and summer festivals (MC), there's the ZAN issues, forced holostars integration with the NY's concert and expo tour, and shit like HLZNTL. if you want to call me a unicorn, go right ahead. Just know that this company will go down burning if they keep this up.

Other shit that I don't like include
>mandated sponsorship groups like umisea
>hololive channel with a membership (with tiers of membership also)
>Overwork of talents for idol activity (There should be no reason why Splash Party and Blue Journey are two weeks apart)
>A-chan being relegated into the nanny
>Still doing this copy-paste bullshit
>Holoearth basically being revealed as a gacha

>> No.57457376

>>57457273
A-chan was never anything more than a nanny/janitor/moderator, both Cover and her overspoke about her actual importance

>> No.57457444

>>57456377
If everyone with a bad take killed themselves then /vt/ would be as empty as /po/

>> No.57457587

>>57454613
It's simple anon. tanigo resents the fact that his failing company is saved by a woman doing stupid things and that the girl has so much power over his company. the branch that he managed himself keep failing didn't help this issue. he wants to get some power back and make those bitch replaceable

>> No.57457690

>>57454613
Hololive is like youtube
>twitch makes live streams
>youtube copies
>tik tok make shorts
>youtube copies

They don't know why they're successful and just tries to copy their rivals, just like holo copies niji and now is coping VSPO

>> No.57457910

>>57454613
If Holo can do anything then no one can compete with them. They will kill VSPO by hosting fps tournaments and kill Niji by collabing with streamers and Holostars. The point is not to please the idolfags and unicorns(because they're too cucked to leave the girls anyway, they love them too much and will accept it eventually), the point is to take the viewers from other companies.

>> No.57457972

>>57457910
and thats a terrible idea. You are an idol company. You are NOT a FPS tournament company like VSPO.

>> No.57458037

>>57454846
Android phones are shit now after copying every bad decision made by Apple. Might as well get an iPhone now.

>> No.57458080

>>57457972
What was the first fps tournament hololive was involved with

>> No.57458125

>>57457910
This is what will kill them, no one can please everyone, not even Jesus could

>> No.57458187

>>57457972
It IS a good idea. Hardcore idolfags are more trouble than they're worth. Cover get to kick those guys out and sabotage Niji and VSPO all in one go.

>> No.57458215

>>57454846
actual retard

>> No.57458312

>>57458037
Stop haunting the internet Steve Jobs I am not buying your "phone"

>> No.57458518

>>57454846
You have that backwards

Niji is Android. Tons of phones all doing similar things, some are good, some are total shit, but there's too many to choose from, no quality consistency and the branding is weak

Holo is iPhone. Smaller lineup, it's own little world, a bit cult-like, but the branding is really powerful

t. person who likes some people in both

>> No.57458571

What

>> No.57459055
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57459055

holotoddlers btfo

>> No.57459380

>>57458187
They will be hated for it or die. I’ve seen this same mentality by other companies thru the years where they branch out to reach more normies and sacrifice their hard core fans for it.

All those big companies bleeding and hated to the bone started the same way.

>> No.57461183

>>57456821
>if that was true then holofags would watch vtubers before and after the holo logo
How can they watch them before Hololive if they don't know they exist?

>> No.57461406

>>57458518
But everything apple does is to cut corners on cost and raise prices. There’s a new phone every year that’s pretty much the same as the phone before until like 3 or 4 generations down the line with something. Vs androids being relatively unique with each new release and each new phone focusing on something different but all using the same OS or in this case idol branding.

>> No.57461652

>>57461183
no shit? Quit spamming this holofags care about talents crap when it's obviously a lie

>> No.57461677

>>57461183
No he’s not wrong the twins were considered no talent 2 views, who were probably holorejects, and generally hated. Now they are considered the best hires in en history because they stream the exact same way they did before hololive only now with the brand and failing multiple times is now inspiring. As a hololive fan myself I can admit I only watch for the logo because I like the way they bounce of other members. Without that I’d stop watching almost all of them if they left. Only difference is I don’t think the brand makes them better streamers randomly unlike the schizos here

>> No.57461733

>>57454613
Because AnyColor is the most successful

>> No.57461778

>>57459380
Lose millions to billions, mass firings happen, and then lives ruined because a millionaire wanted good boy points on social media

>> No.57462069

>>57454957
its correct, you're just retarded and an ESL as well
I'm convinced 98% of ESL-shaming is done by ESL's

>> No.57462143

>>57461677
Fuck you, I loved the twins in their rm accounts. I doomposted about it then everyone had alligator tears saying "they're so good, shame I only just found out about them"

>> No.57462203

>>57455471
that and the game sucks. they should just go the china way and completely copy botw or persona or both for the base and be done already.
rolling your oshi in a gacha sounds like a good game plan but then cant make it fucking work somehow, meanwhile china spits out a game like that every week

>> No.57462290

>>57456008
theyre both self-hating ESL's. i dont even think they disagree, they just get aroused by that

>> No.57462362

>>57456376
theyll get their profit share from the cheap tatics and when cover starts crumbling because they destroyed their own culture theyll just sell the stock and move on

>> No.57462508

>>57454613
>Anycolor debuts waves
Cover debuts gens
>Anycolor debuts males
Cover debuts males
>Anycolor debuts side branches
Cover does side branches
>Anycolor does mix gendered events
Cover wants to do the same
>Anycolor gets more success with en males
Cover debuts en males even copying accelerate

The only thing Anycolor copied from Cover is En branch and Idol concerts which is sad because that doesn’t even count. Anycolor’s India? Branch was pretty much the precursor to western English branches. As far as the idol stuff goes that is Cover’s claim to fame as well as their untouchable mark on vtubing culture as it pretty much remodeled all of vtubing in Japan with Kizuna Ai, Kaguya Luna, Nijisanji, and the new VSPO all copying them. Such a standard that western corporations followed it as well or claimed they weren’t idols to still end up doing it anyway. It’s funny to see most members cling to the title, it’s the moniker used by everyone in the vtubing space, even investors and other idols consider them an idol company but Yagoo only advertises them as an entertainment company now. It feels like Yagoo is trying his hardest to fail

>> No.57462626

>>57462069
My favorite is when you post a paragraph with one typo. They try to call you esl and make multiple mistakes in that one sentence

>> No.57462762

>>57456117
>>57456376
>>57462362
Seriously what investors are you talking about? There’s multiple earnings reports, interviews, shareholder meetings translated and shared here. And they all say the same thing focus on the girls leave the waste of space alone. Stop being dumb

>> No.57462847

>>57455471
>holo fans want to support their oshi not Cover
This might be the biggest flaw with HoloEarth is that fans are only sending money to Cover when they buy Holocoins. They will have to shill the game but holomems will get nothing.

>> No.57462911

>>57455471
>see chink botw blowing up
>let's make our own botw clone that will be stuck in development hell!
>chink botw is reclining now

>see luxiem blowing up as male vtubers
>let's debut tempiss back to back and force mixed collabs!
>NijiEN is reclining now

>see vspo blowing up in the fps crowd with collabs with males
>let's make an e-sports brand and add our homoshitters it!
>e-sports is dying as sponsorships dry up

They hired too many new interns and they are just throwing dumb ideas on the wall to see what sticks

>> No.57462970

>>57454613
What self of Cover do you want them to be? Personally I want them to be Cover 2019 before they got involved in all this Idol horseshit.

>> No.57463028

>>57456821
How is that Covershilling you dyslexic monkey?

>> No.57463182

>>57454613
>anycolor
Who? Is that a new small corpo?
Jokes aside, I wish Hololive had someone relevant enough to compete with

>> No.57463298

>>57462970
Same. 2019 Cover was something else. What the fuck happened?

>> No.57468402

>>57458187
>it IS a good idea
you sound contrarian for the sake of being contrarian.

>> No.57468653

>>57462970
They were idol stuff beforehand. Why abandon being an idol company?

>> No.57468722

>>57454613
In what way? Have you looked at their respective audition forms? They're recruiting people for very different reasons and for different goals.

>> No.57468880

>>57462970
>before they got involved in all this Idol horseshit.
being idol is unironically what makes them different and unique not just a streamer with anime avatar and their origin is idol, it is only right for the group to follow their origin

>> No.57469619

>>57462508
>The only thing Anycolor copied from Cover is En branch
Technically speaking, Niji had the first EN branch, even if it was just a rebrand of their IN branch.

>> No.57469700

Oh sweet the /schizo/ thread is finally up

>> No.57475569

>>57469700
?

>> No.57475879

>>57454613
out of touch suits. reactionary actions

>> No.57476044

>>57462508
I never thought about that before but whoa its crazy how much Cover copied from them kek

>> No.57476460

>>57469619
I will forever simp for Noor's model

>> No.57476747

>>57454613
just because anycolor is good at graduations doesn't mean they own it.

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>>57454613

>> No.57477025

>>57454613
They aren’t trying to be like anycolor. They are trying to be like vspo, which is potentially even worse.

>> No.57477338

>>57475569
Please put /schizo/ in the subject field so that I can easily find it next time

>> No.57477496

>>57454613
Because majority of cover employees are women in their 20s/early 30s and they watch nijisanji mostly.
So they want to turn hololive int something similar.

>> No.57477533

>>57454613
You need to go down to go up after.

>> No.57480947

>>57477338
??

>> No.57481341

>>57476044
Some of it is understandable but at a certain point it has to be intentional sabotage

>> No.57481641

yagoo wants a yacht

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