/cure/ - Holocure: Save The Fans

[Anonymous No.]

Collab Edition

Link to download the game:
https://kay-yu.itch.io/holocure
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2420510/

HoloCure Twitter:
https://twitter.com/HoloCureGame
https://twitter.com/HoloCureDev

HoloCure wiki:
https://holocure.fandom.com/wiki/HoloCure_Wiki

previous thread >>57195600

[Anonymous No.]

holocurebros... our response?
looks like we shouldn't have made fun of overCHADS

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>>57354792
why is it always compared to OW2? those games have nothing in common.

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>>57355153
AAA by big name corpo vs weeb indie
you can figure out the irony

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fuck you. its dead

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>>57355153
Anons got ahead of themselves when holocure peaked at 45k concurrent players and started spamming threads on /v/ about it. Weeks later and I guess this is the result.
Who the fuck even cares about numbers?

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>>57357064
>Anons
why even pretend these people played the game or cared about it

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>>57357064
It's still a funny anecdote that this random free indie game got more players than what should be a popular AAA title. Apparently to the point where it gave their fans PTSD so they keep trying to compare both.

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Got every achievement except Shiny Fish. I've been fishing for almost 30 combined hours.

I just want my fucking fish.

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>>57356752
You can save it

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Stage 4 feels insane even with just level 1 Halu. It recommends having level 4 attack and level 4 speed, but that recommendation might as well just fucking say level 8 for each of them. Zomrades and Zeta's fat fuck cat things are ridiculously tanky.
Recommended build for Kiara on stage 4? I'm trying to beat it with her and I'm finding it fucking impossible for some reason.

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>>57361232
Do you have full upgrades and gachi? I was able to clear it with Gura first try I think I used absolute wall, broken dreams and the frozen wamy water one.

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>>57361442
I don't, I'll try to to get some more upgrades to see if I can do it. It feels so close, but my upgrades during the run feel so rough sometimes.

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>>57361575
hard mode 1 and maybe even 2 are easier than stage 4

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>tfw the Holo you like playing the most will never get a new outfit
Guys, I don't feel so ᵇᵉᵉᵉᵉᵉᵍ...
;_;

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>>57361918
F

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tips for stage 4?

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>>57363110
Play gooder

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>>57353456
Thank you for the helpful list. Kaela is S tier right?

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Is AZKi secret God tier? She seems more busted than IRyS, but everyone is sleeping on (not with, that's me) her.

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what else should i add to my Bae build?

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Roboco is so fun to play as but she's shit...

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>>57363110
Make sure to refund advertisement if you got it
Also go for a tanky build like fauna or irys, most people die to the projectiles so that can help mitigate that

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>>57363110
Always kill the red and blue buff guys. Or at least don't get caught on blue buff one.

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Fuckin'....
Need a another game to play while watching streams/vods again.

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>>57363110
Play ASSki with full haste and movement speed.

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>>57366593
Work to colonize your Oshi's high score page

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>>57359092
I got it in a few minutes after I got the golden rod.
But I hate fishing, so I just let the game run while I was at work and overnight so I could pick up and sell the fish the other girls caught instead of playing the rhythm game myself. Took about a week to get enough fish for the golden rod.

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>>57366562
Killing the aura enemies quickly is really important.

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>>57363110
Don't underestimate SPEED.
Grab a Phoenix Feather every run until you don't need it anymore.

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>>57364417
sacrilege
maybe you're just not GOOD enough to last 'til her LVL->DPS conversion hits its stride

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>>57364417
Roboco is one of the characters I pick if I feel lazy and want to nothoughts headempty faceroll a run she's too good

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Playing on 3 weapon lock is the new easy mode like Solo weapon was before.
>get Jingu online + 1 other weapon
>Funnel all your levels into items and stat ups
Makes hard 4 EZ.

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>>57371561
That reminds me, I'm not that fond of Jingi for endless. Maybe some builds use it well, but I end up preferring more damage or a freeze.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uppfQitgy-o

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>Tie for #1 on the leaderboard
>Now game crashes on that part leaderboard
What

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>>57372647
Awesome.
Do it again.

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>>57372354
It's really cute how much Sora likes the game, and actually works to get good at it.

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>>57373255
It is, though it looks like she has a lot of gachi left to do.
I bet she was disappointed by her character getting nerfed again in 0.6, then excited one she realized what she could do with Jingu.

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>>57366593
Holocure is such a great game to play while watching videos/streams. Shame about missing out on the music though but after grass touching pre 0.6 I think Ive heard them enough

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How do I kill yagoos past 35 minutes?

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Nadoka is raping me with her bullet spam, I'm thinking of switching to a ranged character like Ame. I was playing Kaela main weapon only so I can stat boost myself but Nadoka's bullet spam leaves me very few openings to get hits in. Refresh my memory, does Ame's slow time special work on bosses?

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>>57373255
>and actually works to get good at it.
Is she still picking generic all-rounder items for her Sora playthroughs instead of Healing?
Cuz that's the litmus test on if she is for me.

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>>57374481
Melee characters can handle Nodoka so long as you time your offense to when she's floating around spamming the beam. Get too close during bullet spam and you take like 10 bullets at once the millisecond they spawn in.
Also if you're relying on Horns for healing, keep in mind you've lost the mobs to defeat so are suddenly healing 95% less.

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>>57375471
>Horns
This is why I dropped horns and started relying on Bandaid + Plushie instead

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>>57374481
Grab the stop stamp, might help destroying some projectiles.

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>>57353456
Question, these are the only supercolab in existence by now?

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>>57376164
Yes.

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Does beetle effect risu's non stop nuts or just her special ability?

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>>57376164
What you got for 0.7 /cure/?
>Ring of Fitness + Energy Drink
>BL Fujoshi + Body Pillow
>I'm Die + Piiman
>Bone Bros + Devil Hat
>Rap Dog + Headphones
>Asacoco + Asacoco

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>>57376496
It's a % of her main weapon damage so its a toss-up, really. Trya solo run out in Stage 1 & check the #s.

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does anyone here wish some of the characters' skins get their alternate versions instead?
>hoodie suisei
>hoodless casual mooms
>latest azki outfit
>bedhead mori instead of twintails (if it's out)
>t-shirt+glasses+short hair ina instead of jacked (if it's out)
are the ones that i'd prefer

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>>57374242
It's hard, but if you meant killing them before they touch you then you need Super Superchat and Greed stamp pretty early in the game. That's the only item that enables you to theoretically scales infinitely.

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>>57377074
What are the odds for super item drops? I don't think I've gotten one for the past week or two.

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>>57377170
Nobody knows the exact rate but it's pretty low. Hard 3 gives you a free box at the start of the game though so if you want to tryhard for leaderboards then you pick it up and reset instantly if it's not the super item. Just beware of your food running out with too many resets.

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>>57359092
I've got every one, but fail a 1>2 upgrade. Meanwhile I got a golden fish on literally my first fishing session. RNG fucking blows.

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>>57376905
Almost certain it does after testing

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>>57361918
I'm just glad she's in the game at all... She really had a difficult time.

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>>57377170
>>57377316
Super items are 1/20 every box provided you have space.
Each individual super item is then equally likely if that 1/20 is rolled.

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>>57378170
>She really had a difficult time.

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To the anon who caught all the golden fishes: how much time do you need to do it?

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>>57381008
More than you’d expect since you can get duplicates.

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>>57381008
18 hours using autohotkey imagesearch syntax.

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>>57377581
I imagine it does, because it seems to affect every skill, even the oddballs. Like it increases Suisei's AoE crit from Stellar Stellar.

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>>57382622
does it affect the "internal" damage from Risu's Deez?

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>>57382750
Most likely not. Beetle is a flat damage increase, so it's added on to a skills normal damage. Deez doesn't do any flat damage, only %HP damage, so there is no flat damage portion for it to add too.

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>>57383242
Forgot to add that if it does, it wouldn't affect the %HP portion anyway. You'd just end up with "100% Damage + %HP" so it would be a minor increase comparatively.

[Anonymous No.]

is 38m yagoo at stage 4 hard leave no room for error ? i got stuck half second and i barely can recover. also with membership, earphone, breastplate i can only get 8m+ score. any tips for 10m+ score for azki ?

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>>57383948
>>57377074

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>>57377074
no this is false kek, i got less coins with this super items. my damage almost one shot yagoo at 30-34m mark so i barely can dish any coins from them.

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>>57354792
I'm playing the itch.io version

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I'm sick of grinding for this achievement. Literally the only one left besides the gachis.

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>>57388171
>pick credit card and blacksmith gear
>upgrade every single basic weapon to +2
>collab them
>upgrade every single collab weapon to +2
>super collab one of them
>upgrade super collab to +2
>if not completed yet then reset

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>>57388171
>>57388515
Also make sure you don't have the shop upgrade or it's impossible the do

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>>57371362
fuck! my DICK

[Anonymous No.]

WTF I played for 50 hours and it's the first time (at least first I noticed) I finally get to directly walk over final boss's chest but it just fucking disappears so I don't know if I got extra coins from it, presumably not.

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>>57363110
Stage 4 is inoperable, anon, not even chemo will help, sorry.

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I'm gonna play Kaela all night out of respect for the grind.

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>>57389410
>clearing stage 3 hard with jingis
Pretty lame compared to a solo weapon run or even a normal run.

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>>57390974
What's a normal run, just pick random weapons and not give a shit because it's already too easy?

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>framerate drop when Baelz special
>GWS pill + super collab activation buff pushes crit into 131+% (wasted crit)

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>>57391380
It would be nice if going over 100% crit translates the overage into crit damage bonus.

[Anonymous No.]

I've come to the conclusion that Bae is objectively the strongest general-purpose character.

[Anonymous No.]

Are the axolotls ever used for anything or should I just sell it to Bloop for more sand?

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>>57392857
I assume platinum star workers would want them at higher levels (max max level is 50), which you can only hire at management level 4.

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>>57363110
Crowd control is very important in stage 4. Get an aoe collab going as fast as you can.

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>>57377074
>That's the only item that enables you to theoretically scales infinitely.
It's being capped at 200%.

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>>57391951
That would make the game more brainless as you wouldn't have to think about whether you need to stop gaining crit or not since it would just always be good.

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>>57377170
Every time I've played Chammers I've gotten 2 in that run.

[Anonymous No.]

Based on their character selection screen portrait, which characters want dick the hardest? My vote goes for Ollie, Kobo, and Shion.

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>>57392988
Thankfully my workers are all at max level and only ask for basic shit like lobsters and potatoes. Though I didn't know the highest level cap they can reach is level 50, mine are all in the 30s range except two guys who are both at 47.

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Rrat damage is pretty dumb with a crit build.

[Anonymous No.]

Luna when?

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>>57395100
I would assume in the next big update, since we already have all the previous jp gens.

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>>57395407
GIVE ME COCO ALREADY YOU FUCKS

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>>57395666
Alluding to the eventual Usada Casino, the next update should be Gen 3 and 4.

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>>57395407
Gens 3 and 4 on 0.7, 5 and 6 on 0.8, EN3 and JP7 on 0.9, and the game ceases development before ever reaching 1.0 so homos never

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>>57396099
Next update is going to be Stars.

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>>57366593
Do you have all the shiny fishies yet?

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>>57396273
I fucking hope not

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>>57396273
Oh so they're going to add a Graduate mechanic as well?

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>>57396273
>yfw they add the defunct Chinese brand as enemies

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>>57396185
Kay seems to prefer mixing up the gens. I would bet we get EN3 before JP6.

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>>57399751
He already confirmed that won't be the case.

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>>57399751
Gen 3 doesn't even have enough references and lore to add fun stuff yet

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>Just tried Zeta
>Kamina glasses
gentlemen I might've found my Oshi that I've never watched before

[Anonymous No.]

What stamps do I want for Risu? I have Greed and Solo but now Haste and Bomb just dropped.

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>>57399561
>civia playable character
>unicorn skill deals more damage to things related to girls who male collab

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>>57399925
>add character too early; suffer with no jokes and lore
>add character too late; suffer with a lot of content not being applicable anymore

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>>57400157
I like bomb more than haste. It's not like a few extra nuts make a difference but bomb is basically guaranteed extra damage.

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>>57400064
Kamina glasses are a Lui reference.

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Can you get gachi by beating each hard stage once, or is 2 easy 2 hard the best?

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>>57402910
Yes, each hard stage once is just enough exp assuming you've got maxed g rank bonus.

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>>57402731
I'll now watch Lui

Still simp for Laplus tho

[Anonymous No.]

How good is candy kingdom sweets? I've never bothered with it but it sounds solid. If you use it, who do you use it as?

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>>57404314
It's great and I always take it. If you use a build with the shackles it's a must have so long as you aren't stacking collabs that don't really benefit from haste.

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>>57404314
It's bad unless you take shackles, it's a negative multiplier instead of a flat -25% attack damage and that's huge.

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>>57404314
Bad in general. Not all skills and weapons benefit from haste, but all skills and weapons will eat the damage nerf.

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>>57404831
>It's bad unless you take shackles
This is false. For pretty much every weapon that has a high haste cap it's a pretty big damage gain overall and a substantial gain with shackles.

This assumes you know how each weapon is affected by haste though. If you don't you can fuck yourself over.

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>>57405053
Nah it's bad. It's equivalent to 12 levels of Haste up and the dps increase is roughly 8 levels of Attack up so you're better off getting glasses and using the extra levels to get both haste and attack up, you should get at least 20 or 30 extra levels from glasses alone. Both Face Mask and Gorilla Paw offer better dps and if you can crit consistently the Soda is also a better option.

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>>57404516
>>57404983
>>57405053
Okey nerds, tell me what collabs scale with haste.

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>Just beat hard stage 1 on the first try
Oh, so it is easier than stage 3 and 4?

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>>57404314
Depends, really.
You deal roughly 77.5% of your original damage(75% original damage with with 10% chance to deal 24.75% original damage on second attack), but you get 60% Haste. The question is will the 60% Haste contribute to more than 22.5% of damage increase? Because if not then there's literally no point in picking the item. Personally I don't like it since in Endless you can pretty much consistently get to at least 100% Haste from level up alone which is the break point to halve weapon attack time for those which can be lowered.

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>>57405977
>Do
Bone Bros (caps at 200%)
Breath Asacoco (caps at 125%)
Broken Dream (only bubble, not rain speed, caps at 1100%)
Curse Ball (only spawn, not damage wave)
Eldritch Horror (caps at 225%)
Elite Cooking (only new pools, not pool ticks, caps at 250%)
Flattening Board (caps at 300%)
Idol Concert (caps at 200%)
IDTYF (caps at 250%)
Legendary Sausage
Light Beam (caps at 400%)
Lightning Weiner
MiComet (poorly, caps at 1100%)
MiKorone (caps at 400%)
Ring of Fitness
Snow Sake (caps at 235%)

>Don't
Absolute Wall
BL Fujoshi
Frozen Sea
Crescent
Dragon Fire
Rap Doog
Stream of Tears

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>>57405938
>glasses
Glasses are a given for literally every build because it's broken. It's retarded to compare anything to it.
>face mask
Also makes you extremely fragile. I know this game is easy but not everyone is basing their builds on farming gachikoi because that's all they have left to do.
>gorrila paw
Definitely a good one and should frequently be taken but it fucks over many crit-scaling characters and once you get some upgrades and start using food its value decreases since you're actually losing the full crit value instead of being at 3% baseline.
>>57406081
Yeah, Hard 1 was released a long time ago so it was balanced around the upgrades/benefits available at the time. A ton of alternative forms of scaling have been added since then so it's actually easier than newer non-hard stages despite having a higher upgrade recommendation. It doesn't have buff/debuff enemies and enemy movement speed is relatively slow compared to newer stages. All it really had going for it at the time was more stuff to dodge.

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>>57376821
Absolute Wall or Flattening Board + Kusogaki Shackles for Lolilive

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>>57406601
>don't
>crescent
I'm absolutely certain that I've seen it go a lot faster depending on my haste though

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>>57407459
I just went off the wiki, could be wrong. None of the new ones have lower limits listed either.

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>>57403696
I guess you never saw Lui's debut. Her entrance was pretty great, if silly.
https://youtu.be/l0HhUgGR2Cs?t=131

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>>57407459
Yeah it definitely scales with haste. I'm just going to assume that anything from 0.6 doesn't have accurate information.

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>>57407603
Speaking of glasses, does it only do extra damage on crits now? The opposite of what it was on release?

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>>57405053
Sweets is useful on Jingis healing damage builds, since the extra haste will mean extra healing fields which mean extra heals and extra attacks.
You'd still probably want Kusogaki for that though since the 0.75x damage also impacts your heal damage, and it isn't worth it in endless where you're going to get more than enough haste anyway.

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>>57407999
>Speaking of glasses, does it only do extra damage on crits now? The opposite of what it was on release?
It always worked like that, the only change was to make it only on weapons instead of skills too.

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I think I realised that I might have been being retarded and completely misinterpreting how Beetle affects skill damage. If we which of these is the right if we say it's at level 3 and the character is level 100 so it increases by 200%, would that be:
1) it works a multiplier to skill damage, so makes a 50% damage skill deal 150%, or a 500% damage skill deal 1500%
2) its additive to the % listed in the skill tooltips, so it would make a 50% damage skill deal 250% and a 500% one deal 700%

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>>57408250
I think it is the 2nd one.

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>>57407999
Yes.
The real value of the item lies in adding +30% crit to ranged/multishot weapons. Of the 27 collabs present in the game, only 6 of them don't qualify as either. Meaning it's basically just sake, but gives more crit and is always active, and gives DoT too, because why not. You basically always want it even if your main weapon is melee unless you're doing a main only run or you really, REALLY don't care about crits.

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>>57408250
It feels multiplicative. I've pushed Garlic to over 1k damage with the beetle.

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>>57408250
It's addition. This game is weird, in that % increases are almost always additive, while 1.x is used for multipliers (But only for positives). Currently Gorilla Paw, Face Mask, Devil Hat, and anything that affect crit damage are the only items that add multiplicative damage. Everything else is additive

[Anonymous No.]

>Hard Mode stage 2
>that music
Am I hearing megaman?

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>>57408851
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiJBEm9v5Nw

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>>57363571
I've heard that before but nobody every posts a build or even says why shes any good.

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>>57363571
Not really. She's great for farming coins but IRyS is far more consistent and easier to use.

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>>57410355
Here's a little hack for when you want people to tell you something on 4chan and they won't. Just tell them that they're wrong and watch them explain in detail why that's not the case. Next time you hear someone say Azki is good just tell them they suck major ass.

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>>57410808
You're so full of shit, that never works.

[Anonymous No.]

I really don't feel like getting gachikoi with every girl after already doing everything else

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>>57411593
The bonus isn't that big

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>>57412151
The chieve though

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>>57412151
The neat part of Gachikoi isn't the bonus stats, it's where they automatically have all of their skill maxed on level 1. Saves up 6 whole level compared to Oshi rank.

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>>57412151
It actually is.

[Anonymous No.]

I hope Kay Yu adds a way to make bosses harder (at the very least the 10 and 20 ones.) I never have any issue with Mikodanye, Nodoka, Area 15, etc... Adding a halu 6 that only buffs bosses or making a boss buff in the shop would be great

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>>57414048(me)
To be clear, my issue is how easy the bosses are compared to standard mobs buffed by halu. If I get filtered, it's never from a boss.

[Anonymous No.]

what's the current character tier list?

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>>57414250
Simple stat buffs wouldn't work. They'd need different attack patterns and to have everything accelerated. For example A-Chan has a deadzone in her bullet hell pattern and her clockwise bullet spam is extremely easy to dodge and leaves her vulnerable for an excessive period of time.

Even a massively increased Halu multiplier wouldn't do anything to change that. Make the bullet hell patterns more complex, make the clockwise sweep into a windmill pattern and have her move in a fixed pattern during, etc.

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>>57411337
You're right, I'm sorry.

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>>57414628
That's ideal, but with halu 5 and maxed marketing, bosses barely feel any different from basic mobs. Upping their speed, damage, and hp would make things at least slightly harder.

[Anonymous No.]

Is there a place to report bugs? Found one on Ame that fucks up your camera position

[Anonymous No.]

>>57415605
steam page?

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>>57366593
Same
Before holocure I was playing noita and binding of Isaac

[Anonymous No.]

>>57414048
ID boss trio didn't give you enough trouble? Stop using OP character then

[Anonymous No.]

>>57367688
My Oshi isn't in yet. When they add her for sure

[Anonymous No.]

what's a good scaling build for kaela

[Anonymous No.]

>>57382302
Yeah I think I'm not gonna do that. Got 4 golden squid and still missing half the other shiny fish.

[Anonymous No.]

Around 9 minutes into Stage 2 Hard there's just mf'ing "miniboss" that appears and disappears in 1 second (no chest drop) and it just looks like a fucking bug seriously WTF is that even for, spooky factor??

[Anonymous No.]

Why Zeta is so fucking shit? It baffles me how Kaela could rush Halu with only one of her passives. The invisibility of Zeta isn't even that great. Merumeru do almost the same on a tank character.

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>>57427705
You basically want to use her invisibility as much as possible so something like idol costume, piki, bandage could be good.

[Anonymous No.]

Isn't GWS pill strictly better than Sake due to "permanent" (don't hold onto special) +25% crit? Or does Sake +5% from eating stack from eating multiple food?

[Anonymous No.]

Does the "Beat the game with only your starting weapon" achievement count skills?

[Anonymous No.]

>>57430826
skills aren't weapons, there's another achievement for beating a game without any skills (fandom off / eliminate skills on level up screen)

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>>57431101
I assumed I couldn't take skills or items since I've done a bunch of 1 weapon runs but never got this

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>>57428363
I kinda understand her playstyle, but is just compared to other characters, it seems like you need to put in a lot more effort. At no point do you feel overpowered. For example, with Kaela's 'No Pressure', you could simply choose Halu 3 times in a row, and the waves are manageable. But with Zeta if you do the same, you have no margin of error.

[Anonymous No.]

I hate Anya's slumber skill that I actually eliminate it

[Anonymous No.]

>>57431252
Weird. It lets you use items for sure too.
Did you get Barebones achievement (clear stage with no items)?

[Anonymous No.]

With the Marking Stamp, is the 40% damage to the marked target only from damage your primary attack does or for all damage you do?

[Anonymous No.]

>>57431578
In general I dislike skills that force you to move. I move most of the time but I don't like the game essentially forcing me to.

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>>57429263
Eating multiple food doesn't stack the bonus value. You could get both GWS and Sake, and also Sake is for a super collab.

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>>57431578
her melee passive is much worse than that because there are only 4 melee collabs (0 melee supercollabs) in the game ; wall is pure defensive, book deals meme dps, bardiche forces her to take crit items so only legendary sausage and starting weapon for melee

[Anonymous No.]

>>57433043
I thought the Snow Queen was Melee.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57433741
Hmm, apparently the wiki was wrong before, or perhaps it was changed in a patch. It was odd for it to be melee but that is a bit of a shame.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57432117
I never did a no-items run but I did that alongside the "keep main at level 1" just now and got it, so I'll try with only main and nothing else later

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>>57432117
>>57431252
Might be bugged? I for sure did the Halu level 5 achievement but it's not completed.

Funny enough I just did No Specials, Lv1 Main, No Items, and No Skills in one run while also forgetting to limit items.

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>>57392988
No, I've seen sharks get requested, but the only thing I've found axolotls be useful for is selling

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>>57408458
Honestly, I hate the glasses, but this is speaking from a perspective of endless. The problem with it is that it doesn't stack with bonus damage modifiers. It's deceptive. Your projectile attack might do 1000 damage, but the glasses only do 100 damage per tick or so, which would be 500 damage over 5 seconds. That's nothing.

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>>57428363
I used to think Zeta is good (just means S1-S2H are easier) but spending some time on S3H with max marketing I died several times in the beginning until this time I survived getting a collab which afterward was smooth except for some butt pucker near-death moments since I didn't choose a second defensive item. No way I'm touching Halu. Main weapon's awakening effect is nothingburger. Special is a screen wipe with a collab (this isn't saying much) but during cooldown you better not relax. Fubuki's skills are more consistent both defensively and offensively. Playing Zeta is "your weapons hit harder sometimes and you get to level up more".

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>>57359092
>I've been fishing for almost 30 combined hours.
Akai na...

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>>57438567
The 30% crit is the main reason to get it. That's more crit than sake and GWS. If you're able to max out crit with crit upgrades then none of the crit chance items will be useful anyways.

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Stage 4 needs all the upgrades filled out, yeah?

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>>57440563
One point in favor of Sake at least is that it's used in a super collab. I dunno, I was just burned taking those glasses on Subaru and they're junk on her.

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>>57440698
It doesn't need them but it helps greatly, yeah

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>>57440834
Okay cool, I'm gonna fucking clothesline Kay Yu for lying about the recommended upgrades.

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I did it with Aki. I have no idea what this build is, but fucking finally holy shit.

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>>57441903
It'd probably be better to drop the 3 items meta and spam collabs like always, potato+idol song is crazy good on Aki because of how it debuffs everything for example.

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>>57361918
someone did suggest one of pako's recent drawings of sana to Kay Yu on reddit and he said "if pako doesn't mind, then it's a yes"

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So Korone gets 30% damage reduction skill, add that the super body pillow with 15%, super breast plate with 30% and membership with 25% and that adds up to 100%. So theoretically we could make an immortal korone build right? Only problem would be to end the endless run at some point. Maybe getting a face mask after a couple of hours? I wonder.

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>>57443495
It's not quite how damage reduction works. It's multiplicative. So if you took all that together, you'd reduce your damage taken by almost 70%.

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>>57441903
good stuff

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>>57440924
You can absolutely do it with just five upgrades, the upgrades above that are just there if you can't get good fast enough

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what do you guys think stage 5 and its bosses will be based on? considering the next update should be JP3 and maybe 4, I can see Hololive Alternative dragon Coco being one of the bosses

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>>57446618
I want it to be holosaba map (the old server)

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>>57446704
that'd be nice, but we did just get a stage based on Minecraft

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>>57446618
I have a feeling EN3 will get priority. Whatever the stage is would likely be based on the jp gen that's released with them though.

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>>57396099
next update is HoloKR

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>>57443969
thanks for the clarification

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>>57440924
Goods luck

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Do Ollie's simp bags trigger the bandage?

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>>57424000
IMO Haste & Size. Specifically for her hammer, so I always aim for the Boros & Sana Stamps.
She's also the one Holo I'll actually consider the Unit Stamp for, given that I'm not using the main weapon for damage, have a surplus of anvils, and should've already maxed Blacksmith Goggles.
Will add that I'm untouchable until the 20min boss then tend to die in ~20 seconds. So maybe invest in a healing item solely for that moment of whiplash.

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>>57429263
Sake's good for characters that don't intend to ever take damage in the first place, like Azki. Basically anyone you want a Bodypillow on, you benefit from Sake on. Especially if their Special is something you want to save for clutch moments (thus losing out on GWS' buff).

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>>57446795
Don't get your hopes up, apparently Kay's already confirmed they wont.

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>>57452511
Dunno, but they are impacted by Full Meal which is great since it means you heal more than they hurt.

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>>57449604
>>57443495
Additionally, you forget the upgrade shop upgrade that reduces damage too.
>>57443969
This is why the headphones tend to pair better with a damage reduction item since the miss percentage still acts as true 100% damage reduction instead of having lesser impact, though some characters may want to take damage (or want to use the breastplate’s damaging effect).

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>>57441903
I’m planning on beating hard 3 with everyone before stage 4 normal because sausage looks like a terrible weapon and I don’t want it diluting my weapon selection from boxes and level up.

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>>57442644
Rap dog is good on nearly everyone because it is a 1.2x damage multiplier on everything else, but it is indeed extra good on her.
Frozen sea is especially great on her too due to the extremely rapid fire slowing effects. It is a damn shame that the needs to broken dreams in 0.6 included removing the slowing effect from the rain. Now I don’t even bother with it and always use my spider cooking for the buffed eldritch horror or jingis.

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toot

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Does Piki Piki Piman increase the damage of specials that don't "directly" deal damage like Bae's?

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>>57456606
I can only assume that it doesn't

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>>57456606
Just tried it, doesn't seem so. Lv1 Music Note hits did the same damage #s during the Special as not.

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>>57457352
What a shame.

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>>57457352
Thanks, anon. I was in the middle of a run and went afk after asking, so now I know to eliminate it.

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I'm really getting curious, how the hell does Subaru's bonus damage on the baseball interact with other damage related bonuses? Because it's so hard to tell, some damage bonuses barely give anything while others shoot her damage really high, and it's confusing the hell out of me.

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>>57460185
It literally nullifies the ATK Stamp lel. I know that much.

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>>57461275
The weird thing I noticed is that it doesn't feel like it gets fully nullified. You still get a bonus from the attack stamp from what I tried, but I don't know if it's just from the crit damage boost. It's really odd. When I recently tried, the baseballs were hitting about 1300 without it, but the crits at least were hitting 1600. So I don't know.

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Nooo I fucked this up, I thought it was going well...

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Playable A-chan when?

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>>57463797
feeling cocky with the halu huh?

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RIP. I can't into 2hu.

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>>57466939
those stick figures are carbon nanotube DARPA robots or some shit otherwise they've got no right being this durable

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So do you watch vtubers who play holocure?

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>>57468164
The ones in Hololive, yes. Only other person was a bit of Peo.

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>>57469808
Based Peonista.

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>>57463797
Why the odd weapon and items?

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>>57467345
>no healing items
You at least had the life steal stamp right?

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Finally! Finished stage hard 2 with Zeta. It was painful but killing Nadoka was the easiest part.

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>>57469875
dunno I was just winging it without guidance
realized it's better to solo and push haste toward +200% for time bubble uptime

--WHAT THE FUCK
I probably should've grabbed some SPD level ups and/or Energy Drink, pre-boss didn't need SPD

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>>57473700
yep, much more manageable... also when you mark one of the bosses, ignore them and hit the other ones and the marked one will suicide pretty quickly