/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

>*Ruin his own vtuber career*
>Rent free
Lol, what a retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>doesnt give a shit about numbers
yeah I'm thinking based

[Anonymous No.]

>>57234063
Of course he doesn't give a shit when his parents give him money like a spoiled child.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57233886
But he sure did prove the haters right? What a brave man

[Anonymous No.]

>>57233886
Nah fuck off. I respect him for placing his principles over clout, any other vtuber would have suck it up and keep their precious spot.

[Anonymous No.]

BUY A FUCKING AD, holy goddamn

[Anonymous No.]

>>57234278
the princples in question: go off meds and be a nuisance

[Anonymous No.]

>>57234335
vespies are doing whatever they can to bring him attention since he has already fallen to 3 digits ccv

[Anonymous No.]

I don't even hate the dude, I made this edit because when the idea popped into my head I couldn't stop laughing for 20 minutes

[Anonymous No.]

>>57234063
WIll be less based when even you forget he existed in at best one year from now.
Actually based people make both work at the same time, he just wasn't able to do it. mostly because he forgot his med kek.

[Anonymous No.]

Funny, looks like his guerilla stream has higher viewership than both Tempus streams on right now combined.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57233886
pretty sure he has slightly better numbers than he did before with multistreaming so

[Anonymous No.]

>>57234663
Yeah, 1.4k on Twitch and 1.1k on Youtube.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57234278
Kek what principles?

[Anonymous No.]

>>57234663
lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>57234613
>>57234663
Anons... drama buff... it's like debut buff. I'll give you a friendly remember he had 40K viewer on debut as vesper. Expect it to drop harshly soon enought. That just how it is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57233886
It's funny watching these faggot do what Mori has been accussed of doing her entire career so far, use hololive to gain clout then leave to do RM shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57234063
>The guy who had SEVERAL videos dedicated to numberfagging and talking about "metrics" and "growth" doesn't care about numbers
And other lies Vesptroons tell themselves

[Anonymous No.]

>>57234561
I genuinely can't decipher your second sentence

[Anonymous No.]

>>57234063
>doesnt give a shit about numbers
The funniest thing is him being smart enough to know his short-lived success as an indie is all because of Hololive and the numbers it automatically gave him. He did nothing for the vtubing industry unlike Coco, so he knows all these viewers are unearned. He'll never know if they're true fans or only there because he once had the triangle next to his name.

[Anonymous No.]

With both Altare and Axel streaming, why is /orc/ more than twice as fast in posting as /mans/?

[Anonymous No.]

>>57234907
he was average 100 viewers before he joined tempus retard, he’s not gonna complain about these numbers

[Anonymous No.]

>>57233886
>Defending Tempus
>Defending StarsEN
This board is really schizo. Joining stars is a step down

[Anonymous No.]

>>57234990
see >>57234907

[Anonymous No.]

>>57234759
Already down to that? Oof. Ngmi.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57235041
he'll be back to 100 soon

[Anonymous No.]

Do Vesperfags really want to watch him after that backstab? truly retards will always be retards.

[Anonymous No.]

damn there’s really one buckbroken kronie in this thread still seething even after he graduated KEK

[Anonymous No.]

>>57234968
I think he means like Gura, gives a good show, gets big but still doesn't care and just disappears.

[Anonymous No.]

It's funny how his existence still causes so much seething here. Like unironic rent free and causing schizos to retain their fantasies about being cucked by people they have no real connection with.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57233886
mad respect for standing his ground, he cares about his principles more than money or fame, based ngl

[Anonymous No.]

>>57235537
i thought they'd stop after the graduation but they just keep going lol

[Anonymous No.]

>Similar viewership
>Doesnt have to give a penny to Cover
>Isn't restricted by their stupid rules
>Doesn't have to deal with insane gachis and unicorns
He won.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57235537
>Ruin his own career
>Seethe
Ehm Vesper.... if you want to be a retard that's up to you little buddy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57235675
>Similar
lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>57235750
Yep, fairly similar

[Anonymous No.]

>>57235540
I have yet to see anyone actually explain how him randomly having his streams stopped for two months and quitting without explanation is “sticking by his principles”. We have no idea why it happened.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57236051
Buddy...if you don't realize this is only going to go down, I feel pity for you
Fucking Coco and Rushia couldn't keep theirs

[Anonymous No.]

>>57236144
His principles were "I WANT TO BE AN ANGRY MENHERA THAT BREAKS THE RULES" which doesnt fly in any job

[Anonymous No.]

>>57234851
Not being shat on by management
Not taking shit over fake guidelines
Not bowing to Altroon

[Anonymous No.]

>>57234118
>imagine not having parents who will help you out
troonsister.....

[Anonymous No.]

>>57236226
>Fucking Coco and Rushia couldn't keep theirs
Hololivefags only care about the blue doritos and hololive unity shit. Of corse, they couldn't keep their numbers.
Vesper's majority viewers were only interested in his solo content.
He is never getting those kronni numbers again, but I'd be surprised if he dropped to 3views.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57236292
>I DON’T WANNA FOLLOW THE CONTRACT I SIGNED WAHHH

[Anonymous No.]

>>57236292
>fake guidelines
>AItroon
What?

[Anonymous No.]

>>57236686
>Vesper's majority viewers were only interested in his solo content.
yeah I heard from a certain someone that you live or die depending on said content, wonder what happened to him :)

[Anonymous No.]

>>57236686
>Vesties are hololive antis all along
Not surprised

[Anonymous No.]

>>57233886
What he said? I never heard his voice and I don't plan to

[Anonymous No.]

>>57237246
he said 2 nukes weren't enough

[Anonymous No.]

>>57234545
im laughing but i also hate it

[Anonymous No.]

>>57233886
who?

[Anonymous No.]

>>57234968
I meant that someone actually based can confront both ideal and realism at the same time. Probably very hard concept for a lot of people but that how people succed in life. Cary your ideal while not bending to reality, but don't deny reality for delisionals ideals. It's called being an adult, who isn't his case.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57238148
>something something lick the boot please
Yeah, that's what I'd expect from you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57234613
Anon take this from a sayu fan. It wont last. People are tuning in right now partly for the novelty and partly hoping he drops drama.
When both fades he will bleed ccv. Post his average ccv in a months time when the buffs wear off. Till then it's irrelevant.

[Anonymous No.]

He's still going to be doing better numbers than the rest of the Tempiss shitters even when the drama buff wears off. And he did this on top of grooming Kronii.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57237177
>you're an anti if you don't suck the dick of a company
lol okay Twitter child.
Even the threads back on /jp/ royally shit on Cover every fucking week for stupid shit they did.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57238339
You need to be 18+ to be on this board, that's all i have to say, and here is your (you) kiddo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57239089
Go suck green dick

[Anonymous No.]

>>57235259
not happening. his viewers didn't give a shit about stars.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57235675
>Gachis and unicorns don't have to deal with him anymore
They won

[Anonymous No.]

>>57239420
Sorry I don't get.. oh, you mean Randon.
Sorry, even I don't particularly care for him.
He was funny, but even I think what they did is probably stupid.
Still doesn't mean I give a flying fuck about Cover or their managers who get in the way of the talents regularly, who have upset some of them, and even outright acted maliciously in a couple instances. (particularly the cunt with Mel)

[Anonymous No.]

>>57234963
>Vesptroons
Can anyone actually come up with a good fan base insult of this retarded board

[Anonymous No.]

>>57240761
I shit on hololive too because they're incompetent, the girls hard carry them, but the homos I don't care if they are treated well or not...

[Anonymous No.]

>>57235540
If only principles paid the bills. You know whatever is left of his audience isn't going to be purchasing merch or dropping cash when the time comes. The people he chose to stick with are the bankrupt poorfags.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57236643
Beat me to it
It's always okay to dismiss those fags as troons for this reason

[Anonymous No.]

>>57240881
shut up transvespite

[Anonymous No.]

>orc man bad
Seethe harder, Holokikes

[Anonymous No.]

https://archive.palanq.win/vt/thread/57238991/#q57239326

I got him. Hes buckling. Spread the word.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57236686
90% of Vesper audience is holobox
He (and Lando) need to understand that

[Anonymous No.]

>>57242653
If you're referring to the event streams like Vesper's 2.0 stream then that's correct. Otherwise, no, that's very wrong, Vesper's core audience is quite detached from the hololivebox and even the tempusbox.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57243357
he lost like 400 viewers with his edgy tierlist

[Anonymous No.]

>>57239666
Then why are they still talking about him? Seems like even know he lives rent free in their heads.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57241421
ooh fuck i'm using this from now on

[Anonymous No.]

>>57236144
Vesper's fanbase consist of literal children who look up to him as a dad-like figure because their own dad isn't interested in them and they lack the critical thinking skills to see through all his lying
Once you understand that these kind of comments make a lot more sense

[Anonymous No.]

>>57234063
That's the biggest lie ever
But Magni is even worse

[Anonymous No.]

>>57245583
I’m about the same age as him. We also have fairly similar tastes in video games. He’s relatable.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57238468
Sayu waited too much, she wasted her drama buff.
She needs to throw something about niji that we don't know and she will have a chance again

[Anonymous No.]

>>57233886
I find it hilarious that even though they graduated, you still cant get them out of your mind.
Absolutely mindbroken.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57237707
True

[Anonymous No.]

>>57243470
>cutting out "fans" that would otherwise restrict his content
based

[Anonymous No.]

>>57235675
Jokes on him, I'm gonna gachi the shit out of him, he's my new oshi

[Anonymous No.]

What was the highest CCV for his return stream and latest one (if it was solo and not a collab with NotMagni)?

[Anonymous No.]

>>57235675
>Doesn't have to deal with insane gachis and unicorns
Did he ever have any?

[Anonymous No.]

>>57233886
>sisters absolutly buckbroken
>unikeks seething with impotent rage
>raddat/twatta still love his schizo ass

I wonder how the rest of tempus feels about him.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57234545
he would love this, unironically
send it to him with the caption "i showed you my orb, please respond"

[Anonymous No.]

>>57246232
Return stream was 4.1k, next stream was 1.7k, than 1.3k. I think only the 1.7k was solo

[Anonymous No.]

>>57246032
That's how holo "fans" are. They'll pursue the people they claim to hate and love till the ends of the earth.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57234907
i agree, but he's still gonna ultimately win due to this. no stars buff, but it was never much of a buff to begin with. he can always drop the vtuber thing and become a regular streamer and probably shoot up like 50% instantly. fact of the matter is males only fail CCV as vtubers, and dominate flesh categories.

either way i think he's doing well, gonna need to like... get some monetization and/or merch going though. should ride the wave while people are wanting to show support. people always drift away but the support is real.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57236686
>I'd be surprised if he dropped to 3views
He's going to. He's already dangerously close and it's only been a couple days. I imagine when the honeymoon phase ends he'll end up with about 500 viewers. That's still a huge upgrade from before he joined Tempus, but pitiful compared to what he got as Vesper. Magni on the other hand might actually maintain 4view status given his much larger preexisting audience

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>>57246781
not really - hololive has a lot of crosspromotion and you're constantly reminded when you watch other chuubas, that other genmates, gens and branches exist and you might want to check them out, he gets his one and only drama buff and from that point he's on his own

[Anonymous No.]

>>57234613
>my pee is stinkier than your poo

Competition of mediocrity at its finest.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57235571
>i thought they'd stop after the graduation but they just keep going lol
The people who wanted him gone are happy. Now the people who wanted him to stay are seething at him for leaving.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57247094
Vesper at least has the benefit of being on topic.
You can only discuss Magni on /trash/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57247417
> Vesper
He's dead anon
oh sorry, "graduated" hehehehehe

[Anonymous No.]

He pumped and dumped Hololive like a cheap whore, what a chad

[Anonymous No.]

>>57246279
Not his, the ones for the girls that seethe at the stars very existence

[Anonymous No.]

>>57233886
qrd?

[Anonymous No.]

listen you guys are seething so based it is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57247188
I'm not disputing there's a buff, just that it's not the same as the girls get in their side.
it's not much of a buff, and what you give up is considerable. gonna be honest, i would imagine a lot of the en stars are gonna wind up going off on their own, a bunch of the JP already did. it's so strange to me how hard male vtubers flop considering male streamers dominate by miles...
meanwhile now he gets complete control over his brand and isn't giving a 50% cut to cover. he can make the same money with a smaller audience and do what he wants to do. having this splash will also ultimately drive him a bit in the algo for a while, which can kick start more growth, if he keeps on it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57241381
it's always either a troon, a jamal or both

[Anonymous No.]

>>57247751
>it's so strange to me how hard male vtubers flop considering male streamers dominate by miles...
It's not strange at all. Vtuber avatars are makeup and men wearing makeup is gay.

[Anonymous No.]

Glad this pussy chasing fraud and groomer is gone

[Anonymous No.]

LOVE ORC

[Anonymous No.]

>>57233886
>local faggot obsessed with orc dick

[Anonymous No.]

Glad this chad and pussy slayer is still making /vt/ seethe

[Anonymous No.]

>>57236930
Vespies invented a narrative that altare is why Vesper was suspended that first time and to blame everything on him

[Anonymous No.]

>>57241381
I wonder who is behind this post....

[Anonymous No.]

>>57233886
>giant fatass orc
finally a weapon to surpass Mori...

[Anonymous No.]

>>57248054
go hug your mother on the neck and tell her about how you BTFO ano- oh wait...right :^)

[Anonymous No.]

>>57245751
im actually a little older, from what i gather, and from the same city he was in originally (sounds like he might have moved)

[Anonymous No.]

>>57248255
Hows the new mario? lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>57247094
Magni was a low 3 view before the suspension now he leeches off of raids so one streams early to raid and benefit the other

[Anonymous No.]

>>57248366
hows your dad doing? lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>57247369
what do we call this

[Anonymous No.]

>>57248729
It's called cope

[Anonymous No.]

>>57247641
Basically Shark Tale
He was a whale-washing literally who working the grind just to make by. He didn't have much to his name but the people that knew him loved him and he was good at what he does. But this little guy wasn't happy with that, no, dreamed for the big one; the giant blue Dorito at the top, the big leagues, the Stars. Then one day he gets made. Thought it was the happiest experience of his life, and for a while it was. Even made a best friends with another fish, one with lots of hands and a big heart (for femboys). But it didn't last. He realized that with all the glamor and pomp came bundled with even more expectations and restrictions. He couldn't be who he was or be seen as one of the the other bottom-feeders struggling through the grind in their own way.

Each day he faked it through gritted teeth trying to live the lie others wanted him to be. So one day he decides to give it all up; he pulls his new friend aside and they agree to show the world what they're made of, get one more moment in the spotlight, even get the Stars offering them a shiny new pearl for their status, but none of it mattered. He spent so much of his time looking at the stars that it was only when he was there he realized the view around was empty.

So our humble lad went back to the grind, gave up a life of fortune and fame back to doing what he loves, proud of who he is and the friends he's made. He's his own man, covered in filth, but a filth of his own making. And that, my friends, is more precious than any pearl.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57236051
These numbers were after his suspension and the bs he pulled. Before that he had 2000~4000 ccv

[Anonymous No.]

>>57247996
why is that? what's the lore behind the rrat?

[Anonymous No.]

>>57250221
There isn't any, Altare is just the least liked member so he gets shit on for stuff like that

[Anonymous No.]

>>57234613
>Idiots always forget about the honeymoon phase
Your tears are going to be delicious after a few weeks

[Anonymous No.]

he's literally gay

[Anonymous No.]

>>57250330
He’s basically the Mori of the group. Says dumb things occasionally because he’s legitimately an autist but works hard and genuinely likes his job and fans and genmates.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57249217
Damn.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57249217
Talkin' 'bout the car wash
Car wash, girl
Come on, y'all, let's sing it with me
(Car wash)
Sing it with feelin', y'all
(Car wash, girl)

[Anonymous No.]

>>57249217
>shark tale
Damn homofans were fucking raised to love mediocrity

[Anonymous No.]

>be retarded loser wasting life away working in IT or some other meaningless wagie job
>30+ years old and somehow still an anxious nervous wreck that literally needs meds for your anxiety
>luckshit your way into what is seemingly a dream job that pays itself and you'll never have to worry about bills or anythign ever again
>everyone loves you immediately right out of the gate on debut, even random japanese people like you and give you a cute nickname
>literally all you need to do is just sit there and talk and money rolls in
>somehow, as a grown adult man at 30+ years old who already has years of work experience, sperg out at your manager for no apparent reason
>be the first person in the entire EN branch to ever get suspended and you speedrun this in like just months after starting employment there
>constantly ghost your work colleagues even on important events and anniversaries just because of your anxiety and 'muh meds'
>cause drama ON PURPOSE for no reason at all and deliberately antagonize parts of the fanbase that already don't like you
>just suddenly decide to leave this new dream job, that would have had you set for life, that you will never get an opportunity like again, in which literally all you fucking needed to do was sit there and talk for a couple of hours a day - for no apaprent reason at all
>and you do this right after you have just been generously gifted a new model and design that some starry-eyed artist (who already went through one of his 'children' graduating before) especially made for you
>go back to your unstable 3view streaming life before that you will inevitably need to back up with some wagie job again
>"haha that'll show 'em, rent-free"
This "man" is legitimately one of the most stupid retarded dumb self-destructive pathetic faggots that I've ever seen in a while
what a stupid bitch

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>57247833
.>Vtuber avatars are makeup and men wearing makeup is gay.
Can't imagine the upbringing for you to say shit like this.

[Anonymous No.]

>get assmad about a post you cant contradict
>shart out a post thats worse than it while not reddit spacing
Nice to see Randon will always have some superfans for the foreseeable future
>>57252184
you fucked up your greentext there anon...

[Anonymous No.]

>>57251860
unpaid residence

[Anonymous No.]

>>57248396
very fine thank you, hows your diaper still full? lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>57252683
sure is since my parents keep me well fed :^)

[Anonymous No.]

>>57252782
>Daddy's Little Girl
>Mama's Little Boy
You must be 18+ to post here

[Anonymous No.]

>>57252810
nice projection

[Anonymous No.]

>>57251338
Ironic coming from one who watches GFE and CGDCT all day.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57252810
He is 35 and have mental problems just like the orc please understand.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57251860
He's a retarded schizo, his nasally lispy voice got old after awhile too.
Everything about him was fake and the writing was on the wall for awhile. I'm not so broken up about him leaving because he was so fucking stupid at every turn.

Im much more frustrated and upset with Magni, his was more malicious in nature IMO. While Vesper was just a menhara-dickhole-retard, Magni was more of a manipulative con-man.
He was legitimately entertaining at first, but how easily he turned his back on everyone and left just sucked balls. The fact he filter fed his RM from Hololive and then left without graduation or any signs to his fans. Like that's seriously some shady ass behavior.

I guess we could've stalked his RM for more obvious signs of his obvious grift, but it feels like a harsher blow to than the already unstable Vesper.

[Anonymous No.]

>making nonstop threads about a homo who left the company
I figured you fags would be happy, but I guess you just love thinking about men 24/7

[Anonymous No.]

>>57252567
>rent-free! rent-free!
yeah, and? I am driven by spite and will anti the fuck out of this pathetic loser faggot constantly from now on, it's well deserved
>haha you're not acting normal! you obsessively hate this person!
yeah, where the fuck do you think you are, retard? In normieville?
You know what the funny part is though? People like me somehow still live even more rent-free in that faggot's head than him in mine, otherwise he'd still have the job and wouldn't be on his way back to being an irrelevant 3view wagie, now would he?

[Anonymous No.]

>no metaphor
>no storytelling
>just shit flinging and pants pissing
>and now there's reddit spacing thrown in
lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>57251860
At least Magni have 1 million views so you can understand him but Vesper, Seriously nigga why?

[Anonymous No.]

>>57253059
anon you need to understand this isnt normal even for this shithole
like seriously i think of tile-fiddler with such derangement, of /egg/ with such dedication to autism

[Anonymous No.]

>>57251860
Unlike most of this thread I don't have any strong feelings towards him, but the way you've described it isn't too different from how I see the situation, Hololive has been changing a lot over the years, and he has been there for only a year and the experience surely couldn't be that bad, if I were him I'd stick around especially considering things were clearly improving for him, then if the environment still isn't desirable he could just graduate normally and nobody would mind, he could still get back to his old channel but without all the drama, I don't get why most VTubers can't just graduate normally, that sort of shit has been making a lot of people lose interest on the industry (me), and attracts dramafagging.
At this sort of shit keeps happening I'm gonna start believing that people do it intentionally, why would the very own people that work on the industry be so short sighted?

[Anonymous No.]

>>57251860
reads too much like corpo-asskissing, I'd give him the benefit of the doubt he's seen something so personally revolting but he couldn't let it out

[Anonymous No.]

>>57233886
you can kiss his ass

[Anonymous No.]

>>57249217
Oscar was not a great guy. He lied about being a shark slayer after inadvertently killing the brother of a gay-coded shark, and having the gay-coded shark pretend to be killed by Oscar so he didn’t have to live up to his family’s expectations of being part of the shark mafia. Both them only lived the lives they wanted after they told the truth of what happened.

I don’t really have much to add to the conversation, I’m mostly just proving >>57251338 point.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57253843
ToT

[Anonymous No.]

>>57253223
>disrespectful as fuck to everyone around him
>acts like a complete faggot burning the goodwill of his own fans by acting like a cunt to his genmates while deliberately collabing with female colleagues just because he knows it will piss certain people off that are rent-free in his head for who knows what reason
>absolute ingrate that spits on the time, effort and kindness of Pako - a guy who already saw Sana graduate - basically kicking him while he is down by going 'I'm out lolz fuck you' immediately after the redesign
>not to mention the fact that both Mori and Kronii - especially Kronii, who lost a good amount of her audience for that whole bullshit - stuck their necks out for the guy to do collabs and Mori arranged and ran (what was meant to be) an ongoing TTRPG thing (something she loves doing, which was after her previous try at this had fallen apart) and that's all just pointless now
No, this faggot actually genuinely deserves all the scorn he can get. I actually liked him on debut, I liked that one stream he had with Kronii, I liked the monopoly collabs. And he fucking pissed it all away for what?
Just because he's a fucking manchild that didn't get everything he wanted from management? Just because the rent-free holocels were just so stressful for him?
fuck that, it's rare that a chuuba actually genuinely deserves to be hated, and this shithole usually does it for all kinds of retarded bullshit schizo reasons but this guy is actually a bonafide cunt

[Anonymous No.]

>>57239437
Accurate, i watch him and holos only. Stars as a brand is dead as soon as unicorns get rid of clownboy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57253443
envtubing was a mistake. the western world is filled with self-entitled cunts with no work ehtic who believe theyre owed everything for nothing and theyre enabled by total dipshits who keep kissing their ass and act like vtubers are never liable for anything. its always the "bad" corpos or "bad" fans fault, never the poor victim vtuber who only wants to be happy. absolutely retarded.

>>57253793
yeah, expecting people to act like adults, be professional and respect the contracts they sign on their own volition is terrible. how about you face the fact youre a fucking clown?

[Anonymous No.]

>>57254118
>being so mad youre going to say anything to seem more believable while antiing him
lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>57254118
I’m gonna root for him now just because of how schizo you are.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm gonna member him the moment he's not restricted by his contract just to make you all seethe

[Anonymous No.]

>>57247094
Magni has a few 3 view streams under his belt post drama buff. Granted he started streaming way ahead Vesper before he even graduated

[Anonymous No.]

>>57235537
I love how people be like:
>HE TOTALLY TRIED TO SEX THE BIG TITTY CLOCK WOMAN BRO, THAT'S WHY THEY FIRED HIM BRO, YOU HAVE TO TRUST ME ON THIS ONE BRO, CUK CUK CUK CUK
... And I'm like: "Yes, and?"

[Anonymous No.]

>>57254185
thirdie complains about the West #8382714

[Anonymous No.]

Is he streaming Classic WoW though?

[Anonymous No.]

>>57233886
>rent free
yeah in your head
that's why you made this thread
called out lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>57254416
No he is doing tier list streams already lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>57254185
They clearly respected the contract, neither of them were terminated. They didn't just didn't renew it. You can keep crying if you want though

[Anonymous No.]

I dont know why people care about Pako, he already got paid for fucks sake, do you think he paid per Vesper stream or something so when Vesper graduated he no longer get any money?

[Anonymous No.]

not gonna shit on or defend him... but stream on both channels is an option isnt it? why did he leave just to stream as a png

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>>57254196
literally nothing I've said is untrue or made up

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>>57254623
so youre going to dig in on those """facts""" just to reassure youreself that youre in the right? huh, i woinder what that sounds like :^)

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>>57254596
Why stay burdened down with restrictions and extra behind the scenes work if you don’t need to?

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>>57254713
money

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>>57253793
considering how long Hololive has been going now, the fact that 90% of people who join never leave, that Kson who will casually openly talk shit about people has nothing much to say and that Rushia - whose whole thing was that she was terminated for leaking insider info and is a chatoic menhera who acts impulsively - hasn't come out and revealed any truly damning secrets, all proves that there most likely is nothing 'truly revolting' going on behind the scenes at Hololive. There's just no proof of it.

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>>57233886
>have to scroll past this ugly orc in the catalog now
Please stick to your general so I can filter you

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>>57254859
just for that I'm gonna purposely botch the general name so you specifically can't filter it

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>>57254825
Kson and Rushia are japanese citizens livintg in Japan, Cover would sue the fuck out of them if they broke NDA.
Random could easily spill all since japanese NDAs cannot be enforced in Amerca, it just looks unproffesional if he does it.

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>>57254859
blame the people that are obsessed with him

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>>57254859
Holofags can’t stop seething about him. You’d think for people so obsessed with CGDCT they wouldn’t devote so much time thinking about men.

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>>57254572
Maybe some of it comes from how he would hang out in all of the Tempus chats before it came out that he designed Vesper’s 2.0. He seemed like he really liked them and wasn’t there just to collect a pay check. But Pako seems to have moved on and the fans need to too. I’m pretty sure he doesn’t want to known as the grieving Mama of vtubers.

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>>57254971
From observing this board, CGDCT types are cock obsessed.

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>>57254668
what have I said that is untrue? Notice how you didn't refute anything, you just repeated that it's not true again

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>>57254937
>Random could easily spill all since japanese NDAs cannot be enforced in Amerca
alright then well we'll see if he does, won't we? I would bet actual money that he won't - because there is almost certainly nothing

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>>57255188
Yea I don't expect him to. Neither of the 2 fired nijis did it either.

[Anonymous No.]

So what did he and the mage guy even do? I don't watch HoloEN anymore.

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>>57255065
I'm not obsessed with CGDCT or cock - I'm obsessed with justice

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>>57255379
They had the AUDACITY to collab with the girls.

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>>57255379
didn't like working with Cover so they left after the contracts ended

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>>57255379
they left Cover after a year and a mysterious month long not!stealth suspension and that pisses off the sisters/gives fuel to schizos

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>>57255379
they both suddenly decided to graduate and leave Hololive, without explaining anything to anyone (not their fans, genmates, other members or anything) and didn't even give the fans graduation streams. Just nothing.
The mage guy most likely did this just because the whole time he was just using Hololive to try to boost his rm/other channel's numbers, he didn't actually give a fuck about Hololive, his fans there or his genmates.
Orc retard did the exact same thing but after causing a bunch of needless drama for months and right after getting a redesign model from the guy who already lost one of his designed chuubas to a graduation
real snaky dick move selfish behavior basically

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>>57243713
>Thinking it's the same people.

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>>57254185
I read envtubing as "envytubing" at first, and it actually describes how half of EN works desu.

>>57254377
I honestly think most of the people mad at him aren't the "collab with female = sex" bunch, it's just that he IMO half assed his content after less than half a year on Tempus, I don't think he's a grifter, maybe there's something behind the scenes that we don't know, but considering how he didn't stream that much he could very well get back to steaming on his original channel while still being on Holo, I doubt his schedules were that overwhelming.

>>57254572
Visibility is a big factor for the illustrators too, but yeah people are taking the Pako thing a bit out of proportion.

>>57254381
I don't know when you started watching VTs, but at first for ppl that know japanese saw the difference between the way ENs and JPs operated, and sometimes it was too discrepant, idk how much it has changed since then but the criticism wasn't unfounded, ENs in general still keep a completely different approach to their characters and work ethic, in a way that many end up disliking.

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>>57255469
this is not at all what it's about but ok keep coping

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>>57255507
>didn't like working with Cover
I feel like the orc was around for long enough to understand what Hololive is about. Idk about the mage guy. So to me it looks like he just wasted Cover's time, he had to have known what was expected. Should have just applied to Nijisanji.

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>>57254377
>I love how people be like
why do you type in such a grammatically incorrect way?

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>>57255776
He's from twitter and it's part of "they" culture to write in ebonics

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>>57254859
he will collab with Kronii again and DESTROY you

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>>57255691
>I feel like the orc was around for long enough to understand what Hololive is about. I
He understood exactly what Hololive was about and he wanted to kill it. That's he threatened to collab with "your oshi" and raided Kiara just to piss people off.

[Anonymous No.]

Honestly his story made me realize that even if being a vtuber would be neat, I wouldn't want to be part of hololive. Yeah you get the views and all but there's apparently a bunch of shit you need to do that isn't just streaming. If it was just streaming I could already do that, I could stream 10 hours a day every day if I wanted to, I did it back in the day with my friends. But apparently there's lots of paperwork and other bullshit you have to do for Hololive when not streaming. During Japan hours aka the middle of the night for me. That and I don't like aribtrary restrictions on what games I play and how I play them (aka no mods)

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>>57256182
Sure thing, sister. Kronii banning him was a sign of affection. Kek.

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>>57255082
please point to the post where i explicit said it wasnt true.

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>>57254937
>Kson and Rushia are japanese citizens livintg in Japan, Cover would sue the fuck out of them if they broke NDA.
It's not about NDA, it's because according to this video Pikamee was watching, Japan has this wierd law where you can sue people for talking too much shit about you even if the things they are saying are proveably true, because you're damaging their reputation. In most of the world, you have to be lying to be sued for defamation.

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>>57234613
Wait for a couple of weeks. Numbers will stabilize after the buffs that he has now. Normies will leave after a couple of weeks after the drama gets stale or if they find another thing to talk about.

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>>57255390
Ok Shirou put the swords down

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>>57256518
so why doesn't the pussy orc do it? he's super based and didn't like them right?

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>>57256415
The only other sane guy on this board aside from me.

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>>57256457
> youre going to say anything to seem more believable
> """facts"""
what the fuck else is this even supposed to imply other than it's not true?
Embarrassing

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>>57256809
It just feels like indies have every upside except for one, and it's an extreme limitation on their ability to grow for most of them. Sadly, that is a massive downside if you have any plans to do this for a living. Even if you have "it" that audiences like, if no one ever discovers you in the algorithm, then you're sadly just kinda fucked.

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>>57256889
>anti so mad his reading comprehension falls apart
lol

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>>57256415
maybe the retard should have done his due diligence and researched the company he was about to sign contracts for, then
you know, like most sensible normal people about to be hired that aren't total fucking morons

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So what did he actually say?
Did he say anything at all? Are there clips?
I'm kind of curious what kind of stupid reasons he conjured up in his mind to abandon Homo-life but not curious enough to sit through an actual stream of this dude.

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>>57257101
It's an aspect of being part of hololive that the girls barely talk about if ever. The most you ever really hear is being in meetings.

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>>57256999
oh ok you're just actually retarded and blindly saying anything
Randon did everything I stated he did and no part was overexaggerated or embellished or anything, you're just fucking coping out of some stupid childish allegiance to a streamer man you like

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>>57257163
what? this is absolutely not true at all, if you actually watched Hololive you'd know holomems talk about projects getting shitcanned or restrictions or perms for games and karaoke perms and all kinds of such shit all the fucking time

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>>57257163
Meetings, dance practice, permissions, and the fact that there's constantly events going on because that's how the company works.
Honestly anybody who actually pays attention to Holo should know by now that you join Holo to do Holo things, not to just get a boost to your streaming activity.

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>>57256974
stream on Rumble or Kick
>>57257101
If you were in Vesper's shoes you would be terminated despite what you think you know as an outsider.

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>>57256290
I don't think he was interested in killing it, he just wanted to have Hololive level clout, not Holostars level.

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>>57257223
and youre just coping out of some stupid childish hated to a streamer man you dislike
it doesnt matter if youre saying "facts" :^) or not
youre shitting up the place with your stupid posts

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>>57256415
imo, that restriction and limited game is the reason he left. It's a nightmare for people who have a lot of creativity, hell even Magni rm stream content is not unique for twitch streamer standard and yet Cover wont greenlight his idea, remember Judge Magni?

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>>57257357
>Manager: You can't do this
>Hologirl: ok
>Holostar: Fuck You I'll do it anyway or quit
>Manager: NOOOO YOU CAN BACK TALK ME
>Random CGDCT fag on 4chan: Why didn't he just take it up the ass?

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>>57257370
>If you were in Vesper's shoes you would be terminated
there's only been barely a handful of terminations in Hololive's entire history so this is just plainly bullshit
even Vesper after all his suspension, dramafagging and retardation still wasn't actually terminated, he willingly left and graduated as far as we know
to get actually terminated in Hololive you have to do some real serious shit
>inb4 all the the breaks and some graduations were actually secret stealth suspensions and terminations all along or some shit

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>>57257223
No, you're literally pushing a head cannon as fact. We don't know jack shit yet here you are waving your dick around like you have all of the deets. I fucking hate faggots like you preaching truth like you're some kind of insider. What we know is the shit that went on stream and on twitter. It paints a picture of a man struggling with his autistic fear of everything, absolutely miserable trying to hold himself up to the standard of a holo. We especially don't know what happened in the final month of no communication. In the end he is free and I don't begrudge him for leaving and doing his own thing. It's a damn fucking shame about what happened with Pako and the rest of tempus having there shit pushed back, especially for two guys who just ended up dipping, but again we know jack shit about the situation. Also Mori and Kronii have jack shit to do with any of this. I liked their collabs but nothing is owed to them. They did what they wanted. Whatever fallout happened, happened.

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>>57257413
it's not childish hatred, it's justfied hatred
and those "facts" are in fact, actual facts
>criticizing streamer man I like for obvious bullshit bad behavior that everyone can see is shitting up the place!
fuck off if you can't handle it, pussy
notice how you STILL haven't refuted a single point or even really defended your precious boy at all

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>>57257612
>Hololive members constantly complain about permissions
>Join Holostars
>What the fuck nobody told me I would have to deal with these permissions
You could just not be a faggot and apply for a job that you know you don't want. I never applied for Holostars because I don't want to pretend to be friends with people I will most likely hate. I wouldn't join and be like "What the fuck? I thought I could just be a loner weirdo like I used to be!"

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>>57257797
>being this overtly aggressive and self assured about "facts" :^) is anything but childish and totally isnt shitposting
oh i'm sorry you just want to be right about something anon? i know you want to piss your pants about an eceleb but you need to understand that nobody here likes seeing you jerk yourself off about how "right" :^) you are

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>>57257612
>Manager: You can't do this
>Hologirl: ok
this is not how it has always gone down at all you sexist cunt, girls like Kiara have expressed their dissatisfaction with some of management's bullshit ON STREAM before
>Holostar: Fuck You I'll do it anyway or quit
>Manager: NOOOO YOU CAN BACK TALK ME
ah yes, sperging out at your manager like a fucking child is epic and based masculine manly behavior - when instead you could have normal extended discussions and compromise like an actual adult rather than a teenage boy trying to stick it to the man or something
>Random CGDCT fag on 4chan
you can keep repeating this 'CGDCT' thing like it's relevant at all or absolves your png husband's self-evidently unprofessional, immature and retarded behavior but it doesn't actually change anything

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>>57257471
>limitations are a nightmare for people who have a lot of creativity,
You dropped a "don't" there

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>>57258008
I am right, keep coping
you still haven't said a single word actually in defence of the faggot or refuting anything

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>>57257612
Thanks for exposing your mental illness through imagination.

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>>57254572
Pako isn't a simple mercenary. He loves hololive. He just wants a holo son/daughter that he can dote on, is that so much to ask?

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>>57257714
>It paints a picture of a man struggling with his autistic fear of everything, absolutely miserable trying to hold himself up to the standard of a holo
>accuses me of being a mindreader dramatizing things and then says this shit
zero self awareness
> It's a damn fucking shame about what happened with Pako and the rest of tempus having there shit pushed back, especially for two guys who just ended up dipping, but again we know jack shit about the situation
actually we know what at least one of those faggots was tweeting on his rm account during the radio silence period so this is not true
we also have on stream evidence clear as day of Vesper antagonizing fans and stating himself that he got mad at a manger, claiming he was avoiding gen collabs because of his meds or something while then going on to paradoxically collab with the girls anyway
it paints an obvious pattern of behavior

The one that is reading into it and making inferences about some big bad behind the scenes drama/conspiracy that wasn't the boyz' fault and they are blameless in leaving is (You) actually
>Also Mori and Kronii have jack shit to do with any of this
It's not that they were directly involved, its that just ditching them and fucking off after they helped with collabs etc is pretty obviously a massive cunt move - same with choosing to leave right after the redesign in the case of Pako

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>>57256415
The girls mention the restrictions and backstage work all the time, it's only retards who think "oh they're just lazy and never do stuff offstream". Vesper was one of those retards at the start before he realized he couldn't handle it. But yeah shit is no joke and there's a reason why most people's stream hours always go down over time in Holo.

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>>57258083
your statement doesnt make any sense, retard. People who dont have any creativity will just copy what other people do, in this Holo/Niji case is their co-worker.

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>>57254859
Nah. I'll ruin your day instead.

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>>57233886
my god even in "death" he is still being shit on
whoever this orc man thing is i fucking kneel. Holy shit /vt/ you've gotta be the biggest motherfucking joke on this planet

[Anonymous No.]

I'm just going to say it. I don't believe he had sex with Kronii.

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>>57233886
do you faggots have severe schizophrenic trauma over this guy? what the fuck did he do to get your attention i thought most of you don't like homos and should be happy he's gone? I'm so confused...

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>>57258603
yeah. faggots here still salty since he's the only one who openly shit on them

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>>57233886
I mean, they're both doing pretty well, right? I'm not their fan but 2-3k viewers seems like more than some Holos and they don't have contract restrictions and a 50/50 split.

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>>57249217
that's a way to make him look good kek
I don't remember shark tale having this;
1. The first red flag was his any% suspension speedrun, which he admitted was because he "lost his temper" at his manager, yet also seemed completely unapologetic about it.

2. Then there was the infamous Japan fiasco. Basically he went to Japan for some reasons (I think it was for his song) and decided not to take his anxiety meds with him because "w-what if they confiscate it at the airport and throw me into prison for drug possession!!", fucking retard. Because he didn't have his meds (gee who could have seen this coming?) went on a complete fucking schizo arc where he locked himself up in his apartment in Japan, ghosted all of Tempiss and missed several group collabs he was clearly scheduled for (including the half-year anniversary). All without explaining anything besides "hurr anxiety hort hurr" and never ever giving an apology for all the collabs he blatantly ghosted. For this board at large it wasn't so significant but for those who actually watched Tempus it was basically the biggest drama and Vesper at the time got so much hate in /MANS/ that his fans literally fled and made their own split. Everyone viewed him as a traitorous, toxic bitch who was destroying the Tempus "unity".

2b. It should be noted that during this time he was still doing several girl collabs, casting strong doubt on how real the whole anxiety/schizo arc was at all. There was a huge and somewhat credible rrat that him and Altare had a huge falling out at the time and he just refused to stream with him. This also led to the YABBA DABBA DOO meme because he would spam girl collabs while pretending to be too "socially exhausted" to collab with his genmates lol.

3. After the YABBA DABBA DOO meme started catching on and he got wind of it, he started constantly trying to antagonize hololive fans or unicorns with "gonna fuck your oshi"-type bullshit, literal Mori tier "I HAVE TO OWN DA HATERZ" bullshit just constantly. He also raided Kiara full well knowing and admitting it would trigger a shitstorm and probably even shitposted about in on this board since we know all these faggots actually lurk this board (proven by Axel).

4. In all likelihood he's a pathological liar and 99% of his stories that made him seem "interesting" are completely made up. It just kept getting more and more unbelievable and even Vespies eventually started coping with "s-so what if it's lies, t-they are roleplaying characters anyway!!"

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>>57258745
/ourguy/ material

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>>57258057
Good post

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>>57258511
His statement is so common it's a cliche. Limitations breed creativity. A truly creative person can express themselves within a given limitations. If you take away limitations you get AAA games just doing gritty photorealism for everything.

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>>57258511
NTA but they were getting at the well proven old adage that limitations breeds innovations
truly talented/creative people can thrive and innovate with restrictions and limitations because they are forced to improvise; just look at Ame and all her VR shit and how that dramatically shaped EN in the face of Cover's fuckery in regards to 3D and travel restrictions to Japan, for example. All of the VR streams, models, Studio Ame, the use of the walfie models, the beegsmols etc and all the culture this created would never have existed if it wasn't for those limitations

Talentless people meanwhile, just spiral and collapse into mediocrity and stagnation in the face of restrictions and never innovate or create anything of value

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>>57258731
>>57258745

>>57258856
i think the the meds is just an excuse to avoid collab with altroon, i believe he hates him, yeah he might be get any withdrawal without any of his meds, but it's not that really bad it could cripple him completely

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>>57256415
no. Vesper's work ethic is just a piece of shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57233886
he still grooming kronii?

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>>57258966
>Limitations breed creativity.
I agree to some extent. But Cover seems to have locked it down to a single niche instead. There's only so much you can milk.

Having a truly limitless possibility to do whatever you want just ends up being random and having shackles too tight damages the creative mind.

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>>57258603
>>57258745
holy cope
he's being rightfully shit on because he's an actual retard that threw away success for no apparent reason

[Anonymous No.]

>>57258856
>In all likelihood he's a pathological liar and 99% of his stories that made him seem "interesting" are completely made up. It just kept getting more and more unbelievable and even Vespies eventually started coping with "s-so what if it's lies, t-they are roleplaying characters anyway!!"
To be fair but most of the girls do this too, and if their fans actually believe they're loved, well, do you even have a point anymore?

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>>57258511
Creative people can get around restrictions. Garbage bin faggots can't.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57259172
He still talks with Kronii. Not as much as he talks with everyone else except the Toribeggar, the Cause and the most boring male Vtuber who simps for the Cause

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>>57258451
>actually we know what at least one of those faggots was tweeting on his rm account during the radio silence period so this is not true
... This nigga doesn't even know which one it was, let alone whether or not his rm actually said anything about what exactly happened.

[Anonymous No.]

Usually the graduate receives sympathy and support, but in the case of the orc a hunting group is being prepared to harass him, which is strange because holostar is a minuscule fraction, I suppose that most of that group of antis are part of Mori and Kroni fanbase, if that's the case, the orc is screwed, they're going to persecute him mercilessly until the end of his days, and I don't think he has the mental strength to bear it, Lando enjoys being the victim, but it's another story with Random

Let the hunt begin

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>>57259209
>Graduate graduate graduate
>NOOOOO HOW COULD HE THROW THAT AWAY!
double standard ironic hypocritical cunts like you should burn yourselves in the depths of hell. Shut the fuck up already. He's gone. It is what it fucking is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57259530
His mods are doing a great job . I haven't seen a single anti making a fool of himself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57258511
in which he does.. doing stupid things other people would do

[Anonymous No.]

>>57258136
do i need to when some retard keeps spraying ""facts" :^) and logic" tier shit across the thread and acts like he wasnt ready to handwave dismiss any retort?
>cope
AAAAAAHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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>>57259530
Are you a child?

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>>57259518
I know who it was you disingenous cretin (it was handy dandy landy) and I never said they were saying anything about what happened (well, except that one time he whined like a petty bitch in public about his ugly fucking model).
The point I was making was that professor handonman casually tweeting during that period while nobody was informed of anything was indicative that he didn't give a fuck and was already probably planning some kind of exit/trying to funnel people to his other account

[Anonymous No.]

I am convinced that most anons that make this threads and love to keep repeating the same shit are scorn sisters, you see we men are pretty forgetful once the objective is reached (getting him out of holopro), wasting anymore energy on him is illogical and dumb. But women oh boy they will bring up shit from 10 years ago out of nowhere and does not operate on logic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57258745
openly shits on them?
shit nigga that's all you have to say, he got my sub

[Anonymous No.]

>>57259881
They're shitposters.

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>>57259172
no, Kronii gave zero fucks when he left; she had a 3D stream on basically the same day during which she was happy as fuck and said literally nothing about the graduation at all and hasn't said anything since. Even fucking Mori only said 'I don't know anything either' in response to a supachat about it and didn't have much emotional reaction to that news
>>57259458
>He still talks with Kronii
zero proof of this, you're just making shit up

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>>57258856
ever since he started lying and making excuses before the suspension, knew he wasn't for me. he mentioned he went to Japan before so the unable to bring meds was a lie. feel bad for axel though, since they were suppose to do off collabs. just a lazy coward who didn't want to do a graduation stream per orc.

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>>57259665
oh ok so you DO think the facts I'm saying are untrue? or what? why aren't you refuting them?
make your mind up you fucking sped
just fuck off if you can't have an actual discussion or argument

[Anonymous No.]

>>57259854
Still waiting on how any of that explains how things went down as they fell through. All it shows is that he was willing to move on after the fact.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57260081
try rereading my post, in the process of shitting yourself for being contradicted again in confusion that your "facts" arent getting someone to stop responding you might have glossed over it

[Anonymous No.]

>>57259881
you write like a woman larping as what you think a man is like
reality is, we men are actually as passionate, spiteful, petty and illogical and emotion driven as you femoids are
and I'm gonna hate on these faggots with everything I've got

[Anonymous No.]

maybe holostars should've been something else instead of a male idol group
just saying, but it would be better if they are themselves and not resort to cringy forced fujobait like what altroon is doing...

[Anonymous No.]

>>57259124
Even if I have a decent work ethic, I don't like how much companies clamp on what games I play. Vtubing was so much better before Capcom ruined it for everyone with the Ghost Trick fiasco (or possibly the pokemon black thing, we'll never truly know).
Do American companies like VShojo have to do this too for their EN talents? I know the JP ones need permissions.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57259881
Nice try, but bullying someone so mentally unstable and laughing at their reactions is always fun, messing with Hololive is a nice bonus

[Anonymous No.]

>>57260354
no, it's a JP only thing

[Anonymous No.]

>>57260081
ironic, nice mental gymnastics by the way.. you really showed him that was sarcasm

[Anonymous No.]

>>57260264
>actual womanish reply
Nice deflection attempt.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57254185
>the western world is filled with self-entitled cunts with no work ehtic who believe theyre owed everything for nothing
shut up thirdie monkey and get back to the factory

[Anonymous No.]

The orc is going down by the end of the year
SS this and save it

[Anonymous No.]

>>57259981
>zero proof of this, you're just making shit up
if you want closure, give her a supa it'll answer all your question

[Anonymous No.]

>>57260264
Sisters spotted

[Anonymous No.]

>>57259072
>limitations breeds innovations
that might be true for scientific things, inventor doesnt have to ask permissions from anyone whether they can invent shit or not. Also Ame's 3D is not a right comparison, Cover doesnt ban/forbid 3D stream, it's a time limited restriction/limitation, while Vesper/Magni type of stream is banned
>>57260264
He's right, nice projection, roastie. In case you arent, go cut your dick, you already act like a woman anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57260506
nigga i dont care, go back to school and stop cutting classes

[Anonymous No.]

>>57260392
>messing with Hololive is a nice bonus
Like i said most, you nijiniggers love shitting up the board everyone already know this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57260354
I don't see what's so hard about it. There's a list of games you can stream. Pick one. If there's a game you want to stream that's not on the list, request it and forget about it. Then pick a game from the list. If the game you wanted shows up on the list, great. If not, stream it on your roommate account or something if it's that important to you. Otherwise just play something else.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57260264
small dick energy

[Anonymous No.]

>>57259734
definitely an underage.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57260146
>All it shows is that he was willing to move on after the fact
no dipshit, you're just inventing and assuming by default as part of your premise that 'something must have happened' that caused him to 'move on'
you're the one making inferences out of nothing
the info we actually have is
>Vesper is a dramafag and causes problems
>Magni is somewhat successful
>suddenly radio silence
>however magman tweeting during this which draws traffic and attention to account since people want to know wtf is happening
>eventually graduation announced and nothing explained, not even graduation streams
>other members like Mori say they know literally nothing about it
>it's been over a year since debut so it's around contract renewal time
>landoman farms engagement with tweets after graduation, pairs himself with randoman
literally the only things you truly know for a fact from this info are that they most likely didn't renew the contracts, that magboy was already drawing attention to his other account during the lead up to the graduation and that randoboy had been a trouble causing dramafag until this point

hence, from all available info it just looks like they both acted selfishly and bailed

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>>57260578
>that might be true for scientific things
It works for creative things. Mario looks the way he does because of graphical limitations. Tentacle hentai exists because of government censorship.

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>>57260354
not working hard enough to push for it. he probably did it once and tear was it. look at kaela, she is usually on top of pushing her games to management

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>Orc bait thread with almost 300 replies, soon to hit bump limit
>Same thing happened yesterday
I guess the sisters are still easy as hell to bait after all this time.

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>>57258856
>First suspension.
Pretty insane that they tolerated him abusing staff for so long, honestly. At least it wasn't a Blizzard level scandal.
>Yabba Dabba Doo.
I'm guessing he was blaming unicorns for it even though it was a sisters meme because they were mad he wouldn't collab with their boys.
>Japan fiasco.
Apparently Cover's security had to block him from entering their studio. Idk where he worked before but you gotta have ID to get into office spaces. Dude really thought he was going to just walk in unannounced and meet all the Hologirls. Creepy behavior.

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Well well, they are biting a lot, I think this thread can become permanent

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>>57260354
Both technically need permission, not just a JP thing. JP just actively cracks down on it but legally streamers and such in the US could be sued as well, it's just that none of the companies have done it as it's a toss up whether they'll win.

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>>57254825
>Kson who will casually openly talk shit about people
In what world lol

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>>57251860
>when /vt/ becomes a vtuber

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>>57260894
>Apparently Cover's security had to block him from entering their studio
wait what the fuck? I've never heard this before
this can't be true because that's crazy if it is
proof?

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>>57254825
Even Sana hasn't said anything that's bad about them.

I think Vesper and Magni hated the fact that they couldn't collab with Gura or other JPs and had to settle with StarsJP.

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>>57260506
yeah
he's goin down on this dick

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>>57238468
sayu is actually boring though lmao. orc has novelty by his model concept and autism alone, he doesn't blend into the background the same way every other gacha-playing anime girl does.

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>>57254937
>japanese NDAs cannot be enforced in Amerca
Are you high?

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>>57260795
It wasnt the model that made the game success. it's the gameplay.You could go back in time, persuade/blackmail/brainwash the creator to use sonic model (only the model, not gameplay) or any other model and the results will be the same

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>>57261059
>he missed the 'kson shit talking the pay other corpo chuubas like in nijisanji get and arguing with people on twitter arc'

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>>57260892
"The sisters" hate this fucker now

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>>57261214
sisters defending their husbando by not shitting on female chuubas and being sexist challenge (impossible)

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>>57261180
It's from when he was talking about flying to Japan without telling his manager and not having his meds.

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>>57260675
>I don't see what's so hard about it. There's a list of games you can stream. Pick one.
I like to play the games no one else is really playing, not to be contrarian to fomo or anything, just because I'd have to be the person to request permission every time because no one else is gonna ask to do a Dawn of War stream.
That being said, the total crackdown on mods because of the amogus autist bothers me more. If I wanted to do say a randomizer run of OoT, I'm simply not allowed to. Yakuza 6 in english is a lesser game if you don't use the mod that restores the licensed music because it's used to punctuate key events in the story.
Or hell, fan translations. Would be nice to play a Super Robot Wars game on the stream but because of the rules, I'm limited to the games that had official english translations and not like the 6 games that have fan translations.
>If not, stream it on your roommate account or something if it's that important to you.
I already do that but I'm a literal 1view who basically just has the stream on as a way to chat with my friend while playing a game and honestly, it gets kinda lonely sometimes.

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>>57261549
>I like to play the games no one else is really playing.
Having a job is not about doing exactly what you want all the time.

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>>57259530
If anything Randon has been living it up since he came back. I guess that month or so of down time gave him a chance to process everything and get back on his feet. /vt/ antis rattle on in this box, but at the end of the day its been amounting to nothing in terms of reaching him. Meanwhile, I haven't heard the guy laughing so frequently before. Better antis save face by saying "nobody cares about him anyway" and leaving him to fall into whatever obscure corner of vtubing he ends up in. All this bitching will just lead into early heart attacks otherwise.

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>>57261298
That was just her being a bitter cunt over being blacklisted from every big vtuber server. Nevermind the fact that Holo girls sometimes on those servers and cover wouldn't want her there either.
Dumb bitch will never admit the role she played in the whole taiwan debacle, women and refusing to take accountability, name a more iconic duo.

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>>57261541
your schizo is leaking again

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>>57260894
>>57261180
It's total bullshit. That shit wouldn't fly in Japan without legal repercussions.

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>>57255390
that doesn't reflect on their numbers though. shitting on magni and vesper is funny

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VSHONEN PLEASE
MAKE IT HAPPEN

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Honestly there's two possibilities,

>He hates management, job security and money

>He hates the CGDCT fans for gatekeeping the girls

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>>57260894
>sisters larping as unicorns
Say it aint so

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>>57261929
just say both ffs

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>>57261298
corpo=/= people
did you miss the part where she said that agencies should respect their talents?>>57261732
chill out nijizhang, she cares more about your talents than you do.

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>>57260506
Based

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>>57261214
>by his model concept
What use is looking like an orc if you don't remotely roleplay like one? He could have literally any model and it wouldn't even matter.

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>>57261298
It's been one post and you already moved the goalposts from "talking shit about people" to "criticized an objectively bad corporate policy"

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>>57261732
insect detected

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>>57261929
>job security
good joke

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>>57261929
both are absolutely retarded reasons to walk away from a job like holo

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>>57262082
>>57262320
Cope, she is the reason whores like Mori and Kronii exist in Hololive. Not everyone is sheep like you faggots.

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>>57261680
That's the problem, it's just a job

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>>57262082
>did you miss the part where she said that agencies should respect their talents?
Agencies exist to make money. You're just a product to them, look how cover easily tossed their biggest moneymaker, not even a graduation, just yea you're fired bye bye, even Niji gave a graduation to Gundou.
>>57262320
Bootlicker detected.
Coco stuck her nose in out of some misguided attempt to proect Haachama and she paid the price, not once has she admitted her own fault in this, she just bitches over the shit she has to deal with(like the aformentioned blacklisting), she made that bed and refuses to lie in it.
>>57262542
Its fucking Holostars, the men are treated like lepers and none of them make the kind of money the girls do, why the fuck would ANYONE willingly want to be a Holostar

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>>57262585
>Coco is the reason why one of the most prolific and succesful ENs and music artists in Hololive who is respected by almost everyone in the company AND one of the most adorkable sexy members is there
holy fuck Coco is more based than I thought, dragon bitch I kneel

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>>57262585
>I have no arguments, I'm just an angry faggot

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>>57262585
Haha yes fellow Hololive fans I also hate the livers Mori and Kronii

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>>57262652
>Even if I have a decent work ethic
>That's the problem, it's just a job
Yes that's the whole point of work ethic. It's not called fun ethic.

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>>57262664
>why the fuck would ANYONE willingly want to be a Holostar
i can think of a few, me? I'll just do it to spite you

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>>57262664
>Coco stuck her nose in out of some misguided attempt to proect Haachama
this is not what happened at all you history revisionist mongoloid
>not once has she admitted her own fault in this
she literally did nothing wrong; not her fault there are a bunch of subhuman freaks that spaz at at the mere mention of a country's name (which the entire rest of the world recognizes as its name and as its own country)
>calls someone a bootlicker
also says
>Agencies exist to make money
you'll just say anything to try to argue against Coco, won't you? Incoherent braindead faggot
>the men are treated like lepers and none of them make the kind of money the girls do
literally not true at all
Suisei, Matsuri, Mori, Kronii, Ame, Bae, Zeta, Risu, Fubuki, Ollie, Kobo, Iofi all exist
and holostars do make money, not the colossal amount the girls do but still enough to live off pretty well

you just don't know wtf you're talking about

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>>57261779
>Try to enter building.
>It's locked.
>Security tells you you need ID.
>Leave.
That's not grounds to sue someone.

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>>57262945
No that's an Anglo thing because it's certainly not the case here in a lot of Europe. The idea that your job should be a bunch of bullshit no one wants to do is contained to you guys and people who don't qualify for any other work.

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>>57262664
>none of them make the kind of money the girls do
that's true, but we're not talking like millions and millions of dollars type, it's enough to make them buy some good shit for their streaming PCs or whatever

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>>57263162
It's not "A bunch of bullshit no one wants to do." It's "I want to play my heckin randomizers and they say I have to play a game from the list instead."

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>>57263162
If Euros love their work so much, why are they burning down Paris over a change in retirement age?

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>>57262664
>Coco stuck her nose in out of some misguided attempt to proect Haachama
imagine believing a literal chinese rrat

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>>57263076
NTA, but i will just hate on your because you're in homostars.

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>>57261929
>job security
>one word slip
>several different reasons why youre unpersoned and the only difference is the types of retards defending the corporations "right" to take away your livelihood at a moments notice

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>>57263254
I don't know why you're so defensive of corporate culture bullshit invading streaming
>>57263281
Because all work is bad to a frenchman

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>>57254929
filter evasion is against the rules

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>>57261680
Turns out he likes her daylight job much more than vtubing. Vtubing was a hobby to him and started hating it when it become like his white collar job.

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>>57263312
mutually beneficial as intended

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>>57263446
I don't know why you think games permissions are some sort of nightmarish standard that's just impossible to work under

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>>57263360
when the fuck has this ever happened?

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>>57263683
>give me a specific example so i can defend the corpo
NO
you only get schizo assumptions from me

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>>57263360
>become a doctor
>one negligence and your license is revoked
>become an engineer
>one negligence and your license is revoked
>become a lawyer
>can't protect your client
>people wouldn't go for your services
>become a financial consultant
>you lose money for your client
>people wouldn't go for your services

>become an artist, an entertainer, a singer
>do stupid shit
>gets canceled
It's the same everywhere else

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>>57263939
>these are the same thing
desperate to suck corporation dick?

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>>57263939
>>become a lawyer
>>can't protect your client
>>people wouldn't go for your services
>>become a financial consultant
>>you lose money for your client
>>people wouldn't go for your services
lol
lmao

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>>57263658
Like I said, I don't like it but ultimately I can live with it, my bigger issue is the total ban on mods and fan translations. At least with emulation I get it, but that's something else entirely.
The question that has to be asked though is why the fuck should I need your permission to play a videogame I paid for? This was settled in court outside of Japan years ago.

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>>57264166
rep becomes shit, same as vtubing.
>collabs with guys = less interested viewers = less paying fans

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>>57264117
as if becoming indie is better lmao

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>>57264342
cope

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>>57264342
There is literally only 2 downsides to being indie over corp
>no legal team to protect you if you get in hot water
>unless you get lucky like Asmongold or Vinny or something, you're a 2view forever
Aside from those 2 things it has every advantage over corp. The problem is those are pretty fucking big disadvantages.

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Maybe now he can finally get that Raytheon sponsorship he deserves

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>>57264538
Considering he was pretty unhinged and literally said 'DA JEWS' meme recently, it will comeback to bite him

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>>57264821
link? how the fuck did that slip past management?

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>>57259881
Pretty aure actual men don't give a shit either way. No guy who actually cares about himself as a man is being openly negatively obsessed with an anime man on the internet he doesn't actually know. It's bad enough mojo to do that with a real guy.

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>>57264876
It's in his new persona, when he was playing stardew with the other graduated fag

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There is nothing more pathetic than a bunch of seething internet e-girls trying to defend their e-boy.
Badly, at that.

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>>57265180
Anon, his supporters are literally gay, full on LGBT gay. Look at his general right now

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>>57264538
>2view forever
There are piles and piles of 3views these days along with consistent 4views that easily outnumber EN nijis and holos.

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>>57265354
Jesus christ you're right. He's got full on fucking AIDs lmao

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>>57264538
There's also the downside of having to do everything yourself. Most tasks are no big deal, but a lot of indies have a hard time with merch. And merch is important. Even Kson, the savior of indies, fucked up trying to do merch herself. That's why she ended up in Vshojo in the first place.