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>"Please don't harass the talents!"
>"The boys are a part hololive productions!"
>"Please wank to the girls!"
>"Please don't harbor feelings for them!"

What the fuck is Cover insinuating this summer? That the girls are all wankbait prostitutes with standards? They can fuck off with this double standard. They turn people parasocial with this type of content and then get defensive when parasocial people lash out at them for allowing male collabs.
What kind of fucked up, manipulative game are they playing? Or is management so divided that they're actively combating each other on what hololive should be?

>> No.57121513

>>57121350
It's only a problem if people allow it to be, since no one is complaining then it ain't a problem you screws lose anon?

>> No.57121567

>>57121350
Who cares? the girls will be the winning side anyway, sucks to suck but it's a dog eat dog world.

Stop bitching and be on the right side of history

>> No.57121596

>>57121350
>What the fuck is Cover insinuating this summer?
Carbonara, uma delicia

>> No.57121833

>>57121350
Look Anon. Vtubers is the same as Porn industry. women can get away with anything and get the money while men get nothing.
Deal with it

>> No.57122681

>>57121350
The only one being weird about it is you, anon. Women owe you nothing. Don't like it? Shut up and go watch someone else.

>> No.57122802

>>57121350
wanting to wank to them and buy merch =/= being convinced an anime avatar will date you if you just cry loudly enough on a montenegrin stamp collecting forum.

>> No.57123257

>>57121350
>please don't harass the talents
Obviously. You need internet privileges revoked if you do.
>boys are a part of holopro
Yes.
>please wank to the girls
You don't remember Erolive from the old days do you? They only stopped because Youtube's content ID and algo system is cancerous. Sex sells, always has. It's just been a risky business (in Cover's risk-averse Japanese company eyes) in the past. They've (finally) started to loosen up.
>don't harbor feelings for them
Cover didn't and wouldn't say this. If anything it's the opposite, you have an entire EN generation that operates on a "Protect your smiles" mantra. Fans with strong feelings are the ones showing up to every stream, making fanart, making video games, composing songs, throwing fat spachas, even making memes and shitposts on an ethiopian throat singing forum so some brownskinned xeeter can break containment and spread it to reddit. All of this is done because the fans have feelings for them and it's obviously encouraged.
Whether any particular girl collabs with a male talent is up to them. Many of them have separate managers though, and I'm sure those managers have differing opinions and advice on whether male collabs are a good idea or not. They don't all have the same brand, personality or streaming history. Bae's manager wouldn't care if she wanted to do another food masochism stream with Oga. Fauna's manager would care if she wanted to officiate a Tempiss GOI speedrun race.
>Verification not required.

>> No.57125134

>>57121350
>A minority of the holo members go by the sexy route
>It’s part of the keyfabe for those who do
How does teasing with fanservice for fun equals to deserving harassment.

>> No.57129258

>>57121350
It's okay when hololive does it
Didn't you learn it yet Anon?

>> No.57134347

>>57121350
Anon... mansturbating to some random women you'll never meet doesn't make them your lovers
You're not being manipulated, you're just insane

>> No.57137853

I'll wank to you OP which mean you're gonna be my bitch

>> No.57138735

>>57121833
Don't they get sex?

>> No.57139104

>>57138735
just like the homos, it all makes sense now

>> No.57139245

>>57123257
NTA but I keep seeing
>Verification not required
from time to time. What does it mean?

>> No.57139536

>Least obvious sister

>> No.57141106

>>57121350
know how to read the room, is the talent doing lewd asmr to make you wank? no? then don't say to her that you're wanking, it's that easy but people are too stupid or malicious about it

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>> No.57141233

>>57141106 (me)
oh yeah I forgot, just don't send death threats to people, the stars already have it uphill by being male chuubas in an industry that mostly doesn't care about them or hates them

>> No.57141289

>>57121567
What if my oshi is one of the ones being eaten?

>> No.57142156

>>57121350
>Or is management so divided that they're actively combating each other on what hololive should be?
this, there is a civil war going on inside hololive that is not obvious to the public

>> No.57145421

>>57125134
it's people who just like to be angry at sexy things on the internet in general

>> No.57145688

>>57121567
>Who cares? the girls will be the winning side anyway, sucks to suck but it's a doggy dog world.
ftfy

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57146223

>>57121350
Just become a cuck already

>> No.57147159 [DELETED] 

>>57146223
MOONA YOU FUCKING WHORE YOU ALREADY HAVE A BOYFRIEND THAT YOU'RE SUPPORTING WITH CONDOM MONEY

>> No.57148537

>>57121350
Either they were women who didn't see the obvious double standard or they want you to be cucks. Please fall in love enough to send money to this cute single woman on the internet, but also be fine with a man getting close to her. Peak female brain eat cake and have it too thinking. At least there's some that seem to understand.

>> No.57148852

>>57146223
>has a boyfriend or husband
>is open about it and doesn't rely on GFE
Acceptable, you do you, girl
>has a boyfriend or husband
>denies it while doing GFE and coomerbait
>openly predatory practices against the mentally ill
deserves death

Simple as

>> No.57148997

>>57148852
>openly predatory practices against the mentally ill
based. they deserve nothing.

>> No.57151304

>>57121350
They're insinuating that you need to take your goddamned meds and stop being a retarded faggot.

>> No.57151554

>>57121350
What the fuck are you talking about?

>> No.57152876

>>57121350
> They turn people parasocial with this type of content and then get defensive when parasocial people lash out at them for allowing male collabs.
Just don’t be a subhuman and watch JP. Literally all the shit you typed happens only outside of JP.

>> No.57153057

>>57152876
Fandead...

>> No.57153975

>>57153057
While she was in hololive she never shat in her fans. It’s absolutely not the norm in JP where talents either encourage people to become gachikoi or just remain silent but accept the gachikoi.

>> No.57154333

>>57152876
EN actually seems to be more CGDCT now, ironically. Although there are many JPs with perfect "idol" records so to speak.

>> No.57157002

>>57121350
meds, now

>> No.57157196

>>57154333
The only EN trying to be JP idols are Kiara and the new dogs. The rest are either twitch whores streaming with an anime avatar or just twitch streamers who don’t collab with males.

>> No.57157311

>>57121350
They should move onto the next stage and get the girls to make porn streams.

>> No.57161069

>disingenuous retards willfully ignoring a whole concert of coomerbaiting in skimpy outfits and shit like voice packs that only appeal to loners infatuated with a girl's voice
I wonder what it's like to have your mental development arrested at the age of 12

>> No.57161351

>>57157196
go back

>> No.57164206

>>57161351
Learn japanese.

>> No.57164275

>>57121350
I don't care

>> No.57164906

>>57164206
え?初めからJPの方を観てるんだけど?

>> No.57165744

>>57121350
I'm not quite do schizo about it but it does sorta annoy me to.

A lot of them play into GFE to wring money out of lonely, desperate NEETS but then for some reason act like having to do GFE and having parasocial people (who drown them in money) is bad. If these people weren't there, Hololive wouldn't be a tenth as profitable.

I get for non-gfe tubers its annoying and gross but like... it's like putting a fresh steak out on a table and criticizing people for smelling it.

>> No.57170949

>>57164906
それは本当なら元々この間抜けな口答えする必要がないだろう。嘘つけ出来ないくん

>> No.57172892

>>57170949
アイドルって言ったって、結局JPも配信者だろ?何処が違うっていうんだ?お前の思い込みじゃねえかよ。

>> No.57176469

>>57121350
reine sex

>> No.57176627

>>57139245
its just a joke with the captcha. if you post enough you dont get a code like 8AH42. it doesnt mean anything

>> No.57177145

>>57157196
>Kiara
lol are you sure about that buddy?

>> No.57179015

>>57172892
ENもIDもアイドル全然やってねーしただの中途半端なアイドルらしき活動をしている連中にアイドルを名乗るの勘弁してほしい
お前はただ時々踊るや歌う人をアイドルと呼んでるに過ぎない
> 結局JPも配信者だろ
アイドルvtuberだよ
> 何処が違うっていうんだ?
全然違うしお前はそれを見分けられないのは何がアイドルか元からわからないかと思う。ファンのことを後回しにして侮蔑して変で偉そうな説教してアイドルらしからぬ上からの目線で見て何も成し遂げてない目標がない成長しない怠惰な連中がアイドルじゃない、そして文化を心から嫌いでいる者がアイドルな訳ねーだろ

>> No.57179222

>>57177145
She tries, yes. If she were in japan she would be a lot better. She loves idols and tries to live up to that.
You might not like her but as I said she and the new dogs are the only ones from side branches who actually are trying to be idols. The rest are, well, not, to say the least.

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>>57121350

>> No.57183454
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57183454

>>57179015
真面目に答えてるなあ、おい。まぁ、確かにアイドルに相応しくない所はあったけど日本人と比べるのはどうかな?特に最近、ENとしてはそこまで悪くないと思う。それに、私が言ったのは、アイドルじゃなくてCGDCTだぞ?それを今の所は守ってるみたい。別に皆を応援するつもりはないけど、大体は自分は満足してる。

>> No.57185240

>>57183454
CGCDTは確かに最近デビューした期生が強くさせた気がする
それでもENの大幅の連中は怠惰すぎてただ適当な嘘や活動をしてアイドル心がない、と今でも思ってる
男コラボを避けてるとかでアイドルに向いてるんじゃない。例えばそらちゃんとすいちゃんは時々男とコラボしてるにも関わらずENより立派なアイドル活動してると思う
> 日本人と比べるのはどうかな?
まーJPと同じレベルの活動とか必要ないけどな、ただし向上心がないのは許されない欠点だよ、特にENの2期生
そもそもJPがJPだからアイドルだとか思わない。俺にとってラプラスみたいな奴はアイドルじゃないよ。ある程度頑張ってるENの下まである、そいつは
ENはENだから糞とかじゃなくて真面目にやってないから非難してるだけ。真面目にやったら文句はない

>> No.57185302

>>57177145
She's a basic white bitch in every sense other than the fact that she grew up obsessing over Japanese culture in general. She has some of the mannerisms permanently ingrained in her and still loves the cute idol stuff and her memories, but anything JP related is in the trash for her now.
The dogs on the other hand...

>> No.57185907

>>57121350
You are supposed to lust over, but no touch.
Just like how lolicon works in japan.

>> No.57185985

>>57185240
まぁね、言ってることは分かるよ。でも僕は信じたいんだ!例えその期待を裏切っても!

>> No.57187143

>>57185985
俺は日本語がわかるから一番いい組についてる。JPの子の度胸や意志がすごい、ファンのことをたくさん想ってる
でもJPは大半アイドル規則を守るだとしても裏切り者とまともじゃない奴もいる(ラプラスとかシオンとか)からENの裏切りのチャンスがもっと高いんだから気をつけた方がいいよ

>> No.57187664

>>57187143
アイドルね...本当に信じられるのはそもそも疑問だけどな...
でも仕方がねーよ。だって、俺は彼女を愛してるから...

>> No.57191434

>>57141211
The irony of someone posting this image
you are unhinged brother

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