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You now remember that they were kicked out of Holostars and couple of days later no one gives a shit. That is how insignificant Holostars are.

>> No.57053384

>>57053254
>no one gives a shit.
>Makes thread about them

>> No.57053495

>>57053254
People aren't worried because they've already planned a stream for tonight. It's being made extremely clear that there isn't any drama to be found with this graduation.

>> No.57053614

>>57053254
I've seen more threads about these two than about the concert cancellation. They are literally everywhere on this board even in generals.

>> No.57053620 [DELETED] 

>>57053254
Fuck you unicorn. Just because they are "officially"gone, doesn't mean they aren't fucking your oshi in the ass.

>> No.57053654

maybe let one day go by where there isn't a thread about them on the catalog before saying no one gives a shit

>> No.57053707

>>57053620
>nobody besides Mori & Kiara even mentioned them. Neither of them mentioned them by name.
Yeah I don't think they're fucking anyone but their fans at this point.

>> No.57053739

Even Mori could barely even pretend to care about these losers

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57053813

>>57053620
Lookin real cute with all that ex-Homostar cock in your mouth Anon. Now put on the dress and bend over

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>no one gives a shit
>He made ANOTHER thread about them

>> No.57053833

>>57053739
What the fuck did they do behind the scenes to make even Mori to act like that?

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57053843

>>57053254
And that's based

>> No.57054194

>>57053254
no. they chose to leave like a boss with new fans.

>> No.57054210

>>57053833
Good question. Mori is quite protective of EN girls.

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57054284

>>57053833
Raped and impregnated Kronii

>> No.57054291

>>57053254
>bully random people out of company instead of ignoring them
>'only sluts talk to men sweetie don't be like that whore kronii'
The homos were annoying but you're worse. Rottenkois don't have anything else in life they care about, they make a thread every hour. Objectly the worst ME ME ME ME BE NICE TO ME OR I'LL KILL MYSELF fans. They're shouting they won but they'll be back to screaming and shitting their pants in a week over some retarded shit that they're too sensitive about. Worse than every other group on the board. Worse than bpd women shit we saw with niji en

>> No.57054305

>>57053833
Well. To give up on Holostars EN would not fare well to Mori, considering that She and the rest of Myth pioneered the EN branch. Them quitting is an indirect slap to her face. This is also considering that Mori hints at volunteering to collab with them so that the others won't be forced to.

>> No.57054362

>>57053495
>Except no graduation streams kek

>> No.57054443

This thread is kinda gay desu.

>> No.57054484

>>57054362
they chose not to have one. why would a lazy coward and a clout chaser want one when they have what they wanted.

>> No.57054573

>>57053254
I mean it helps that like one day later they were back on their previous accounts and scheduling streams.

>> No.57054590

>>57054484
It clearly wasnt a planned graduation, but you are right about them being lazy clout chasers though.

>> No.57054811

They got fired. Hololive clearly didn't want to renew their contract because of their shit personality and uncooperative attitude.

>> No.57054963

They disappeared for 2 months after getting new models and opening graphics, it was a weird situation. Vesper himself started going downhill around the time of the mass homocollab arc in september last year, then after november's suspension he stopped giving a fuck and was doing the Sana Strategy of streaming for 12 hours at a time and then fucking off.

Weirdly people are saying magni is the Truve Mastermind behind his weird behavior, using hololive to get clout with twitchfags and build his audience and fucking off because he realized unless he was top 1% like kuzuha he wasn't going to be in the same room as Marine or other top-holos.

Bettel is probably next. Tempus will probably fold in 2 years from now when Machina Flay the Gay graduates back to being an indie traptuber.

Retardless, Vesper seems happier post-graduation. He was always a 38yo guy with anger issues who took meds so he wouldn't buy a 24pack of yeungling and just get hammered to deal with his issues. He never liked office work and vtubing was fun until he was no longer an indie just fucking around and had to actually listen to his boss again, which is why he hated his office job in the first place.

The Kronies who hated him because he was 'fucking their oshi' (SIC) are happy now that he's gone.

The Tempusisters and Nijisisters who saw him as a threat/loose cannon manchild to their Boyz are happy now that he's gone.

And he had a wild year and graduated and now he's happy he's gone too.

Everyone can just be happy now that no one is getting on each other's cases anymore.

>> No.57055017

>>57053833
Even in the most tame rrat (they quit because they couldn't cope with the corpo life) it's understandable that nobody would grieve after them.
If they bitchquit over minor shit when all these girls have dealt with far worse for far longer, there's really nothing you can say about the situation beyond "so long, good luck".

>> No.57055056

>>57053739
Mori has never cared about anything.

>> No.57055347 [DELETED] 

>>57053495
Before they made a tweet in their rm people already stopped caring about it

>> No.57056434

>>57053833
Freshly baked rrat.
>Kronii is still demotivated from the whole drama with Vesper
>Tells him about it
>He doesn't give one fuck
>Kronii starts losing motivation for the collab streams
>She confronts Mori tell her about it
>Mori confronts Vesper to talk about it
>Magni uses a "it's nothing, you're being too dramatic about it" argument
>Mori gets mad
>Tells them to both fuck off
>Stops collabing with both of them
>Kronii does the same
>Vesper and Magni slowly start losing their audience because of the lack of collabs
>They slowly lose motivation themselves
>Ask for a redesign in hope for a new audience
>Ask Mori for a collab in hopes of getting them more viewers with the redesign
>Dry negative response, she doesn't want it and both her schedule and Kronii's are full because of the Connect The World and the new stuff in EN anyway
>They start being mad about the answer
>Management comes in
>They don't want to cooperate
>Management leaves them a period to get their shit back together, or leave
>Magni just doesn't care and prefers to go back to his RM
>Vesper refuses to give excuses, and talks shit to management before asking to leave too
>They get taken off the merch drops and the anniversary is annulled
>Axel is sad as fuck because he had projects for the anniversary
>"Now you wait before the new generation takes place"
>A month passes
>Statement can finally get released
>The girls either don't care or are happy because they all knew about the interior drama from Mori and Kronii
>CouncilRyS ignores because they have their anniversary and shit
>Kiara doesn't give a shit and gives a random answer while laughing at it
>Mori gives a generic answer and asks to not piss off the other girls
>Everyone else has shit to do with the anniversaries and the Splash Party
>The rest of the homos don't care, because these two almost put the whole branch in danger
>Everyone gets back to do what they were doing

>> No.57056539

>>57053833
>What the fuck did they do behind the scenes to make even Mori to act like that?
Cover just fired 2 talents and everyone that works at Hololive is going to be extremely careful with their words. They have to pretend that Vesper and Magni left without graduation streams after 6 weeks of radio silence.

>> No.57057324

>>57054963
i honestly think that magni though he would reach a vox like audience when he got in holostars, realized that wouldnt happen and slowly crawl back to his rm account when he realized he slashed his own paycheck by becoming a vtuber.

since bettel is now even closer to magni and he is doing more rm stuff, it wouldnt surprise me if he pulls the exact same move as him

>> No.57057337

>>57056434
this is close to what actually happened

>> No.57057600

I'm going to make another thread about these guys, hahaha

>> No.57057738

>>57053833
>mori spends a lot of time trying to buff them up
>they just leave because the pay and management annoy them
>mori feels like she wasted her time pimping the homocollabs

>> No.57057740

>>57057337
May be a rrat, but I've followed the situation since it started, and honestly it looks just pretty evident that something like that happened. Would explain why Magni went back to his other stuff without really giving a fuck, and also why most of the girls are laughing it off of just not caring. Kronii and Mori are probably the most influential members of EN when it comes to the other girls, so if something negative happens to them, pretty much all the other girls are gonna be on their side too.

>> No.57057797

>>57054305
Holy shit I hate you faggots so much. No where was it every implied that she only collabed with them so other's wouldn't have to, there's literally nothing you can point to. But ONE FAGGOT makes a fucking thread with this shitty rrat and it will now forever be considered the truth and used against them for the end of time.

I fucking hate you retards so much, all you do is come up with head canon and then push it as truth. That's literally the YABBA DABBA DOO situation, where people who actually fucking watch the streams would know better but retards that fucking hate them and don't watch their streams made and controlled the narrative.

>>57056539
They weren't fired

>>57056434
Another faggot spinning unfounded bullshit that's going to be taken as gospel truth know with faggots screenshotting this and spreading it around

>> No.57057977

>>57056434
please stop sharing your fanfiction

>> No.57058190

>>57057797
>>57057977
sisters sure are mad lol

>> No.57058301

>>57053254
Mori did one collab with Rushia and she seemed more sad when she got fired than with two fags, they must have fucked pretty bad kek

>> No.57058950

>>57057797
>>57057977
So sad, your two faggots got fired and no one even cares because they were insufferable fucks. You'll be fine without them sisters.

>> No.57059047

>>57053254
Yes! So irrelevant you've been flooding the board with them and are gonna keep making threads of them for months

>> No.57059483

>>57053254
They slow-walked it out over like a month and a half however, there were probably hundreds of threads about them in the intervening time. Thing is it was spread out over weeks instead of all at once so it doesn't seem like a huge wave of sentiment. Kind of a devious way to do it but hey it worked in giving these guys' fans time to live with the concept and get used to starsEN just not having them. Expertly handled IMO, which would be a hallmark of Jap's good intuition of "hmm how best can we get rid of the two problem stars without actually making too big a shitstorm about it."

The thing that gets me however is "oh nooo you misunderstand, they weren't fired, it's all cool and fine, they're quitting on their own. no graduation stream though, and nobody can talk about exactly-why they're leaving." Is it contracts? Yeah? Sana didn't renew her contract and had a graduation stream. So what would drive them to quit but be in such disgust they won't ever stream again? Graduation is probably the biggest windfall possible for a chuuba money-wise - why would they not have wanted to do one final stream as magni/vesper and collect thousands, maybe tens of thousands of dollars. If they were denied a graduation stream that feels more than a bit like Cover going "no fuck you just get out the door, no fat severance paycheck from graduation stream for you."

I feel like Cover locked them out of their accounts and said "you're not fired, but you can't stream or do anything on these chars either for an unknown amount of time" and during this time that is like money lost for them not streaming on other accounts, and eventually most members wouldn't just pay monthly for nothing at all after too long and leave too so it. So it was an opportunity cost for them to just wait it out to see if Cover changes its mind and either gives them what they want or vice versa and decided it's not worth it vs continuing elsewhere. Magni already made that clear lately, Vesper however couldn't be monetized as a different vtuber under Cover contract I'd think so had to officially leave to resume.

>> No.57059605

>>57057797
>They weren't fired

Keep telling yourself that
I'm still thinking they got hush money for whatever they did and it ended in graduation instead of firing to prevent speculation.

(with all the homo hate we all know that they wouldn't the one getting hurt the most if shit were to get out, the whole branch could implode)

>> No.57059645

>>57053254
Tick tock. Eventually even Cover won't be able to pretend that focusing on StarsEN wasn't a waste of time and resources.

>> No.57060139

>>57058950
what kind of mental illness is it that causes you to make shit up and then insult people when they point out you're making shit up?

>> No.57060429

>>57056434
why did the other homo's projects have to be cancelled?

>> No.57061150

>>57053254
I don't care anymore because it has become evident that they left on their own volition during contract negotiations. They're also both returning to their PL streams where they'll probably be happier. All I feel bad for now is the remaining TEMPUS members who seem to be pretty demoralized.

>> No.57061257

>>57060429
Anniversary got canceled because of their absence, and they planned an off-collab in Japan plus the drop of some merch. The blue and the orange homos literally didn't get the chance to see their first anniversary being celebrated kek.

>> No.57064341

>>57053384
>>57053614
>>57053824
>>57053833
>>57054284
>>57054443
>>57056434
>>57058301
>>57059605
>>57061257
So true sisters.

>> No.57064441 [DELETED] 

>>57059483
>"hmm how best can we get rid of the two problem stars without actually making too big a shitstorm about it."
Cover probably thought they wouldn't be retarded and quit the company that made them relevant

>I feel like Cover locked them out of their accounts and said "you're not fired, but you can't stream or do anything on these chars either for an unknown amount of time" and during this time that is like money lost for them not streaming on other accounts
One of them went back to twitch to twerk on stream and play genshin impact; Vesper was too fucking retarded and needed a personal handler to constantly micromanage him as if he was one of those autistic starcraft SCVs that don't want to go work (collect minerals) - the guy couldn't be bothered to take his meds in order to function properly.

>> No.57064520 [DELETED] 

>>57064441
>>"hmm how best can we get rid of the two problem stars without actually making too big a shitstorm about it."
>Cover probably thought they wouldn't be retarded and quit the company that made them relevant
>
>>I feel like Cover locked them out of their accounts and said "you're not fired, but you can't stream or do anything on these chars either for an unknown amount of time" and during this time that is like money lost for them not streaming on other accounts
>One of them went back to twitch to twerk on stream and play genshin impact; Vesper was too fucking retarded and really needed a personal handler (which they didn't get him) to constantly micromanage him as if he was one of those autistic starcraft SCVs that don't want to go work (collect minerals) - the guy couldn't be bothered to take his meds in order to function properly.

>> No.57064601

>>57064520
>"hmm how best can we get rid of the two problem stars without actually making too big a shitstorm about it."
Cover probably thought they wouldn't be retarded and quit the company that made them relevant

>I feel like Cover locked them out of their accounts and said "you're not fired, but you can't stream or do anything on these chars either for an unknown amount of time" and during this time that is like money lost for them not streaming on other accounts
One of them went back to twitch to twerk on stream and play genshin impact; Vesper was too fucking retarded and really needed a personal handler (which they didn't get him) to constantly micromanage him as if he was one of those autistic starcraft SCVs that don't want to go work (collect minerals) - the guy couldn't be bothered to take his meds in order to function properly.

Am I having a stroke?

>> No.57065329

>>57053254
No one gives a shit about them because they didn't give a shit about holostars. They screwed over their fans, genmates and coworkers acting like petulant children.

>> No.57065626

>>57053254
Well DESU some high 3view who didn't stay for one year... pretty normal that most of people in every place forget about them within a few days Look at smal corps it's the same, they got more attention than they deserved already DESU.

>> No.57066593

>>57053739
She stopped caring once the novelty wore off. Happened with cr1tical/Connor/trash taste, happened with Rikka and now it happened with Magni/Vesper. She wants to stand out, milks them a bit and then moves on.

>> No.57067128

>>57059605
The way I see it there are 4 ways for a talent to end their career at hololive/stars:
>Graduation - talent decides not to renew their contract, cover would prefer they stayed but can't force them. They are allowed to perform a victory lap and graduation stream to end things properly. Archives stay up if the talent wishes it.
>Laid off - cover decides not to renew contract, the talent hasn't breached any rules that would cause termination but cover no longer wants to employ them. Not granted a victory lap or graduation stream and archives are left at covers discretion.
Firing/Termination - talent has breached contract and removed immediately, archives are taken down and talent is expunged from the records
Talent no longer able to fulfill contact - sickness, death or some other reason causes the talent to be unable to continue, activities stop and archive status is negotiable depending on covers and talents wishes

>> No.57067252

>>57053254
As a homo enjoyer myself I'm glad these 2 are gone, especially Vesper. Magni at least tried and didn't skip out on events etc. If he wants to leave because of money, then fine whatever. Vesper on the other hand outright ignored all large group collabs after Japan and started ghosting his own viewers as well. It's fine if you want ro collab with Kronii or whatever, but don't be a cunt to your own genmates then. Absolute faggot, a frail one at that.

>> No.57067627

I'd seethe too if the only notable thing that came out of all of this was Kiara literally whoing them, then expressing more grief for Pako and Mori on damage control telling Homofans not to bother Hologirls about it. That's the extent of their relevance.

>> No.57068480

>>57061257
I feel like the canceling of probably the most important event for the branch so far (for merch, SCs etc), vesper/magni schedules just getting chopped down suddenly midweek with no warning from them or announcements (obviously unplanned for break) and of course Vesper getting a new model and getting to use it for all of like fucking 1 stream all indicate they weren't planning to leave and it was something on Cover's end.

It looks like they got fired in every way, literally EVERY single way, except Cover saying the words "they are terminated." It's also very possible that Cover gave them the opportunity to do the cope face-saving move of "you can't fire me, I quit!" instead to cover for them and at least weren't mad-enough at them to just say they're fired like they did with Rushia. In Japan for office ojisans they sometimes won't directly fire someone but rather just drive park them a spot where it's obvious their real work at that job is over (isolate them from everyone/thing, don't give them any real assignments, no fun allowed) to make the person get the message to quit voluntarily. It's in part for honor/saving face so that the guy doesn't have a "he got fired" mark on his resume after he leaves. As to why, if this is what happened, they afforded this to these guys but not Rushia I dunno, I guess Rushia pissed them off just that much and/or because it was so obvious and public what happened they had to make an example of her (and also cut her off immediately to stop more leaks probably).

>> No.57069522

>>57053384
fpbp

>> No.57071659

>>57053384
KEK

>> No.57072302

>>57068480
Rushia was going full menhera and planned to sue Cover, there was no possibility of an "amicable" separation

>> No.57079995

>>57053254
Literal who?

>> No.57080622

>>57053254
they chose to leave and they are a less stressed but more successful than ever.

>> No.57083919

>>57053254
>Couple of days
Nigga its only been two days.

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