/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

>Kiara: Bummer I guess lol.
>Mori: I wish them well, now stop bothering other holos about it
>Kronii: *crickets*
Really feeling the love and heartfelt goodbye's for these fired losers. What a reputation to leave behind.

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I mean, they left their fans and genmates high and dry.
Were you expecting a state funeral?

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>>57037127
>IRyS
>guerrilla karaoke to celebrate
ruthRyS, I kneel...

[Anonymous No.]

These jocks showed up, partied hard, banged cunny and then left for the next frat party to crash, leaving catty bitches seething in their wake. Actual full blown brotubers. I KNEEL

[Anonymous No.]

Wait until you find out about the goodbye these 2 faggots have planned for their fans

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>>57037127
I always said nobody gives a shit about homos

>>57037327
Kek

[Anonymous No.]

only kiara is consistent

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>>57037127
And it's based.

>>57037369
Look at magni's gayass rm LOL

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>>57037127
Sound like they got exposed as griefer, but you can't really throw that much shade on them because both side will get reputational damage, and while they haven't that much too loose you have a lot to loose doing it.
Either that or their demand were so ridiculous it baffled everyone.

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>>57037127
The girls realized what grifters they were, which is why Kronii hasn't said shit about him for a while now.

[Anonymous No.]

Kronii looked so happy in the last couple of streams. Liberated. I have no doubt in my mind that Vesper did something to her.

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>>57038026
Yeah he made her pregnant

[Anonymous No.]

I fucking love Kiara

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>>57037127
>Ame: depressed karaoke

[Anonymous No.]

>all these retarded plebs
You don't get it. They were one of us. They know males in Hololive are worse than the original sin. They were The Boss of Tempus. They died, stained their image among thousands and only few know of their sacrifice. Of their mission to eradicate males from Hololive, and then from all vtubing.

Will you carry on their legacy, /vt/? They did it for you. For us.

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Mori's lukewarm response is the only significant one here since Kiara never interacted with them and Kronii is too lazy/cowardly to address stuff like this.

But she really didn't seem to give a shit. I can only assume it's because they quite clearly just bitched out of the job for trivial reasons, which makes them look like grifters. So from the perspective of someone who stuck with the job through FAR worse troubles, you can't really say much good about them besides "I wish them well". You certainly can't claim to be sad.

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>>57037127
sucks to be traitors i guess
>no final stream for their fans
>no goodbye from hlaf of their genmates

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>>57038165
Lovely person, pissing off the people who funded their holo career

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>>57037127
Imagine proving the haters right. Couldn't be my Oshi.

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>>57038403
I lurked /MANS/ a bit and a lot of people there seem to genuinely hate Magni now for how he betrayed his fans. But I think at the fanbase at large is forgiving. The stars subreddit is a complete shitshow right now with people pretty much openly anti-ing Cover and claiming their anti-doxxing rules are "oppressive" or some shit, it's wild.

[Anonymous No.]

the fuck even happened with these guys, all I know is that the old vampire got a new model and then they both dropped off the face of the planet

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>>57037327
>IRYS
>hanging out with jp stars instead
you still can't be japanese hafu...

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>>57037127
Kronii comes off looking the worst
>goes out of her way to collab with them after and reply to a tweet when she just said she would never start interactions with them on twitter
>not even a corpo-tier "don't ask me about it" statement like Mori
>loses her fans, her friends, and looks like an even bigger cunt
I really do not know how people like her. Kronies should watch Kiara, Bae, FUWAMOCO, Bijou or Nerissa. Someone that would actually appreciate them.

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>>57038341
Yeah I got that impression from Mori too. She didn't even say their names, despite them being graduates and not terminations. It's fair enough that she wasn't all that impressed, she (and Kronii) stuck their necks out to hang out with those two on stream and had to tank a lot of shit from antis to do it, and in the end the boys just fuck off after a year? They were weak at best and shameless grifters at worst.

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>>57038876
Nobody knows, it's more even mysterious than the Sana situation.
The ridiculously long suspens- I mean "break" only adds to the confusion.
People claim it was a contract negotiation, but somehow I can't imagine a helpless manchild like Vesper being able to negotiate a contract, he sure as shit doesn't have a lawyer.

All we know is that they're the ones who wished to graduate. And we don't get graduation stream, something specifically remarked in the notice.
So now they just look like grifters who bitched out over presumably trivial issues that everyone else was able to deal with.

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>>57039069
No one forced Mori and Kronii to do that, and Mori did say that a stream they all did was one of the ones she had the most fun in.

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>>57037127
Have fun seething when the four of them collab on their rms channels

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>>57038341
>>57039069
But, she had constant red flags throughout this entire fiasco. I can't really feel sorry for her for helping to create this mess.

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>>57038026
Seems like most of the girls are just happy that they don't have to deal with those two and their collab begging anymore.

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>>57038802
The first tweet Magni's RM sent out after it was announced he would be graduating was a bad one, he basically admitted to fucking over his co-workers but was ready to move on and do what's best for himself now. A real woman moment. It was on par with notSana's infamous tweet.

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>>57038980
IRyS has never hung out with JP Stars

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>>57037127
>Zaion's treatment

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>>57039395
Now I want to see the actual tweet.

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>>57039694

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>>57039799
>ME ME ME
male version of orange woman

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>>57039799
>yeah I know Cover and many holos sacrificed stuff for my sake, so I'm gonna honor them by being a clout-chasing fleshtuber
Absolute scum

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>>57039189
There's nothing suspicious. They didn't renew their contracts.
The end.

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>>57039395
how the fuck dare he betray the billion dollar corporation by quitting his job

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>>57039799
>Yeah, thanks for pissing off your fans and losing a lot of your income for my sake. I'll make sure that your sacrifice isn't in vain by fucking off and attempting to funnel the Tempus fans to my 'other' persona.

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>>57039799
Are we sure this is a male talent?

>>57039970
>didn't get their contracts renewed
Fix'd that for you.

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>>57039799
Just destroyed any kind of positive rep the homos had behind the scenes on their way out.

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>>57039395
>It was on par with notSana's infamous tweet.
Kek, as much as I hate these hom0sharts, I have to admit her tweets were even colder. Then again, at least she did a graduation stream unlike this faggot.

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>>57038341
Why should she care about people who are dead to her? She's been having so much fun with CouncilRyS and Kaela, recently.

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>>57037127
>Talked shit behind the back of the company.
>Got updates they wanted.
>Left anyway fucking over genmates, Pako and their fans.
They were a mistake.

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>>57039069
>>57039224
I never cared about the male collabs, they didn't bother me. But fucking off like that suddenly is kind of a shit move after you basically caused drama (even if stupid drama) for your coworkers.

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>>57040310
We told you this shit was going to happen.
Trust the unicorns next time, fuck face.

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>>57037731
Oh I'm well aware, but during their time at Hololive, they were the kings on campus. I live in a college area so know how those dudes operate. If you took Magni/Vesper as they were in Hololive specifically and put them in the real world, they would probably have graduated and become asshole CEOs kek

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>>57039235
Sure they will, sister. A lot of fans consider this a positive when certain people filter themselves out of the fanbase. It's like we're getting cleansed of toxins and don't have to deal with faggots that openly hate the girls.

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>>57039255
Calli had already collabed with far worse than tempus already, deadbeats were fine with it and unicorns already weren't going anywhere near her. the worst she maybe did was get kronii involved but that rrat is still unconfirmed. beyond her own actions in just collabing there isn't much we can confirm she did. at worst it was bad judgment on her part but certainly no malice

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>>57037127
Vtubing is about grifting. These guys were hot shit for a few months so Mori and Kronii leeched them thinking they'd get new fans out of it. They became 3 views quickly after, and they stopped collabing. It's that simple.

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>>57040597
>it's fine because we have no spine
Well, if you say so.

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>>57039799
I'm not sure how you faggots are managing to spin this into a bad thing.
>the past year has been rewarding but also very tumultuous for me
He's had ups and downs. Nothing bad about this statement.
>i am determined to move forward and i know those close to me wish for the same
Implying his friends were probably encouraging him to keep streaming instead of calling it quits, with a subtle undertone of gratitude. Again, nothing wrong with this.
>many people have sacrificed for my sake, and I owe it to them to be the best version of myself that I can be.
He understands that people have worked hard or struggled so that he can find success. He doesn't want the efforts of others to be for nothing, so he's committed to working hard to do right by the people who have helped him by progressing as a person and 'creator'.
>thank you, everyone
This is self-explanatory.
You retards are autistic as hell.

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>>57040308
I find it funny the Vesper would pretty much without fully saying it feed into terrible fans to have them go out and beg people for collabs and feed into the anti's by screaming stuff about fucking their oshi making this very toxic fanbase. Now the bots left have to deal with it and peaced the fuck out.

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>>57037369
The sad this is that this is what Vesper will convince himself happened when in reality he had another pussy breakdown.

[Anonymous No.]

As a Tempus fan I now want Magni and Vesper dead.

[Anonymous No.]

Its very obvious that they don't want to feed clippers.

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>>57040711
>implying I'm a deadbeat

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>>57040963
lol good one

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>>57040909
Yeah as far as I'm concerned the people that follow him out to his other gig are doing us a favor. It's like removing toxins.

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>>57040310
But how do we know these homos were insistent on pushing collabs?
You are trying too hard to shirk the responsibility and consequences of Kronii and Mori's actions.
They could have send private messages for all anyone knows, speculation like this is retarded.

All I know for sure is Mori and Kronii chose to collab with them, no one forced them, Mori already got over the Connor yab and basically being seen as the shitstain of HoloEN, and Kronii very naively thought her fans were well-adjusted.

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>>57040963
What clippers?

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>>57040902
Going to guess that you don’t know that Magni and Vesper cost their genmates thousands of dollars in time and money by completely destroying both their anniversary plans and a BUNCH of other projects they were in mid development for. “I’ll be my best self!!!!” fixes absolutely nothing.

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>>57040902
His statement shows no remorse to basically fucking the careers of two other people, fucking their anniversary paycheck and fucking basically any sense of planning into the future for his gen and branch. If you watched his streams its pretty apparent he's a bit of a sociopath who craves attention

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>>57041025
I hope they leave cause holy fuck they are terrible. They were a few that were fine, but he really feed into those anti's and I would love them gone.

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>>57037127
there is no love for grifters

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>>57041058
Right. We're pretending now.

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>>57039043
give this man a true

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>>57041122
>no remorse for fucking over homos
Based. And again, this could be dealt with privately.
They owe them explanations, not you.

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>>57041089
Yup. Dude's a cocksucker.
He's also an asshole.

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>>57039799
>Many people have sacrificed for my sake
That's putting it mildly. He fucked over his genmates big time, they basically won't have an anniversary celebration, any and all projects tied to the anni have been canned, god knows what will happen with merch (so he screwed them financially too), Tempus' momentum was brought to a screeching halt despite hype building for the anni so the other 6 will have to work even harder to pick up the pieces and keep things moving. Holostars JP was putting together a big group song with all the boys in it which was supposed to release this month, now delayed so they can take their parts out. Magni (and Vesper) caused a lot of trouble, not only by leaving, but also in the way they left. At least Sana told everyone ahead of time and graduated before Council's anniversary, these two seemed to just drop Holostars on a whim.

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>>57040597
It's not uncomfirmed, while ultimately it was Kronii's decision, Mori was organizing and encouraging her to do those collabs.

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>>57041031
I... don't care if the girls wanted to collab with them or not. I literally see nothing wrong with that. What I see wrong with is agreeing to that suggestion and then leaving them with the fallout while leaving for seemingly no fucking reason.

[Anonymous No.]

So a faggot who wanted more clout, and failed to get his twitch friends a foot in the door in hololive convinced a faggot weeb who couldn't stand working for a japanese company to not renew their contracts. And I'm supposed to be mad at cover for asking a lot from talents making hundreds of dollars every stream for having a blue dorito logo?
The only shame is that cover didn't predicate their redesigns on signing up for another year.
Thanks for 5 fun months, and 6 mediocre more.

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>>57041299
What explanation is needed other than him and vesper are huge fucking assholes and always were and their fans are defenders of their asshole behavior.
If a woman did this you niggers would be doxxing her left and right calling her a cunt

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>>57040493
>homostars
>kings
Where lol

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>>57041360
As in: If both sides agree with it then they should at the very least take some responsibility and not cuck out.

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>>57041388
You'd actually see this play out exactly the same way, because the current """men""" joining Hololive act like women anyway, so they have the same types of fans.

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>>57039189
The contract negotiation explanation is complete bullshit. It makes no sense at all and it's just a way for people to pretend that it was no one's fault. The timing doesn't line up, we know for a fact that the boys were caught off guard since they were in the middle of activities, it makes it strange that Vesper went radio silent, it makes the reactions to them from peers wildly inappropriate.

It's almost certain that they got canned for behavioral reasons and fans are in denial

[Anonymous No.]

Vesper fucked his branch over 2 months in starting cause his feefees got hort so him taking a cowards way out and still fucking over his genmates who needed the money more is pretty on brand for a selfish pussy like himself.
Good riddance to his obnoxious fatherless cult followers

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>>57041360
>>57041433
Then you are a mindless simp.
I do not want my oshi to collab with males. If she does, I won't watch her. She reaps the consequences for that. She has more to lose than the homos.
You need to stop living in this fantasy land where people are going to do this honor shit about sharing blame, especially for something all of them probably consider innocuous despite it having some ramifications, for the girls at least

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>>57041397
Bro you don't get it
They're actually gigachad pussy destroyers which is why they needed to get a job hiding behind anime avatars so they could talk to women.

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>>57041556
Vesper didn't go radio silent. Vesper got his account fucking LOCKED by management so he couldn't interfere with Advent debuts. He probably tried and got walled out. This is a rrat, but the most plausible.

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>>57041397
my man, he is taking you for the proverbial "ride"

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>>57041388
No, if a woman did this I would be glad a toxic cunt was cut out and can no longer interact with my oshi.
Rushia, for example.

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>>57041556
>It's almost certain that they got canned for behavioral reasons and fans are in denial
Then they would have been terminated, dumbass.

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>>57041690
He got locked out because he was no longer officially under contract anymore. I can tell you've never had a basic office job with security measures
Why do you think they legally can't say goodbye retardbro

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>>57041631
>Then you are a mindless simp.
I don't treat vtubers as anything else than entertainers to begin with so you're wrong in that. I don't get overly attached to people who I will never really know or meet.
>You need to stop living in this fantasy land where people are going to do this honor shit about sharing blame
I never said that they should share blame, because I don't think there is anything to blame them for, but they shouldn't make the situation worse for their coworkers.

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>>57041788
He wasn't when he was locked out. LMAO
Either way, thanks for admitting they silenced him instead of him just leaving, unlike how they handled literally everyone else. Based Hololive.

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>>57041850
You would trust the guy who warranted a public suspension 2 months into his career?

[Anonymous No.]

So in retrospect everyone who kept saying "getting locked out of your account for 7 week isn't normal" ended up being the sane and rational people? who could've seen this coming! I have never seen more copium and outrage by people who don't want vtubers then this past week from these secondary chumps.

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>>57041786
I don't think firing them and basically admitting that Tempus was a mistake was an option.

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>>57041904
Nope, but that's the point. Neither did Hololive.
With this evidence alone we can already conclude the rrat he was fired is true.

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>>57038165
I do find it rather hilarious that of all the people in hololive vesper decided to try and lamely assert dominance to in public it was the member with very direct connections to upper management.
the red line for the boys is basically do not contact the girls in public in any way shape or form unless you have gotten the green light from them prior to it. trying to test your luck with kiara of all people is like strolling into oncoming traffic. just plain retarded.

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>>57041904
They debuted in July, he was suspended in November. That's 4 months

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>>57037127
this board is so funny

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>>57041850
Them not wanting to sign a new contract and expecting Cover to let them stream and use their company's account is peak stupidity.

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>>57041921
Well no shit, every retard in this hobby who cares knows July and August are contract season
They worded it exactly how you would when it was clear those retards thought they could negotiate their way onto a higher pedestal they didnt deserve
You never give security clearance to someone you dont have under lock and key

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>>57041970
Yeah, that move was straight career suicide.

>>57042041
We have literal examples of Cover letting people stream who aren't renewing retardchama.

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>>57041954
Stay working an hourly wage job since its clear youve never stepped foot outside of one talking like a retard

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>>57041746
based

[Anonymous No.]

You were warned about Vesper.
His roommate was always manhera

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>>57042082
You are arguing that a contract expiring and a contract negotiation are the same thing. You are actually an uneducated illiterate retard.

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>>57039799
oh professor... of all the things you could have said and its this shit

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>>57042110
>get offended because I proved Hololive had obvious and clear reasons not to trust Vesper and lock him the fuck out
>get extra mad
Go on. Seethe.

[Anonymous No.]

I told you guys the reason Magni said he and Vesper had the most in common is because most were in only to channel as many fans as they could towards their rm accounts, yet no one listened

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>>57041556
The notice literally read that it was according to their wishes to graduate. It's one thing to do stealth suspensions or sugarcoating a firing as a "graduation", but it's quite another thing to literally lie about what people employed by you did or said. I doubt even Nijitrannji would be that stupid.

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>>57041931
Didn't stop Cover before, vtubers are highly expendable. At the end of the day, even Gura and Pekora are only contracted workers.

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>>57042171
>their contract negotiation
>their contract expiration
I said neither, retardchama.
They were FIRED.

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>>57042177
must be nice living day to day as a retard with so much confidence

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>>57041814
Then you are just a retard. Again, they CHOSE to do it, so like anything else in life, they must deal with the outcome. And Kronii really was the only one losing here. Mori was recovering from her worst arc, and Kronii thought she could get away scot-free or something.
Why would the homos be like
>hey everyone, sorry Kronii collabed with us
They didn't make her do it and can't control what fan reaction would be like. Plus, I am sure schizos would see that as a taunt or something.

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>>57042232
I am sure that's what the voices in your head tell you

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>>57042203
It's clear they pulled some shit that would look extremely bad and hurt Hololive's reputation by proxy, so they buried it all and sent them packing.

>>57042262
>>57042234
No no. Keep seething. I love it.
Unicorns won. Homobeggars lost.

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>>57042232
Cover has only ever fired 1 vtuber
I know this statement will make you upset because you're a contrarian troglodyte

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>>57042124
At least it's an excuse. Magni is just a piece of shit.

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>>57042297
>you must be a rushia fan!
lol nope now seethe even more

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>>57042237
Are you autistic? I never said they should apologize for collabing because I see nothing wrong with them collabing. They had nothing to apologize for in this particular case. I said they shouldn't have quit out of the blue after they went with the collab because that in itself was shitty.

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>>57041305
>>57039799
mori sacrificed her noooombers for these two actual poofuckers
lol
lmao

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>>57039189
>I can't imagine a helpless manchild like Vesper being able to negotiate a contract
Well he wasn't able since he doesn't have one now

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>>57042341
I never said you were a rushia fan, i said youre a retarded contrarian
Thanks for proving my point

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>>57042297
>he doesn't think the CN branch was fired
ror rumao
By the way, they let them stream until the end.

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>>57040902
>fuck over anniversary merch sales
>fuck over projects in development
>fuck over genmates who reassured the fans they'll be back
>fuck over hologirls who supported them despite the drama it brought them
>delay new outfits for HQ maybe even VG
>delay holostars group song
>shit on mama on RM, get a new model from her anyway
>release merch for an orisong just before quitting
>no graduation stream or tweet or message to fans
>no remorse about any of it
>magmites come watch the best version of myself play genshin and lust over femboy bussy full-time <33

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>>57042390
Being laid off is not the same as being fired.
I know it must be hard to be a jobless loser on /vt/ and think you know big boy things

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>>57042382
>playing word games now
Homobeggar anal annihilation is too good.

[Anonymous No.]

>sisters unleash their seethe at random anons in this thread
beautiful

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>>57042343
Anon, I can assure it wasn't out of the blue lmao

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>>57042441
>no see it's different
lmaoooooooooo

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>>57042466
The only guy whose mad is the one being called a retard so he's decided to vomit buzzword salad out of fear

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>>57042466
You can tell “sister” is the boogeyman of the week because no one here seems to know which posts are ACTUALLY “sisters” who are “seething”

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>>57037127
How about Bae? Did she say something about them?

[Anonymous No.]

>>57042494
Little timmy has homework to do but he spends his time proving hes 16 and has no fwends

[Anonymous No.]

>>57042522
Bae has always been more focused on JP cocks

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>>57042521
>>57042502
>I'm not mad HE'S the one that's MAD
lmaooooooooo dude wasn't even talking to you

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>>57038980
Irys isn't hafu.

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>>57042297
They fired Rushia and Hitomi Chris, and arguably the whole CN branch (not really the talents directly).
Cover has no issue canning troublemakers, which makes the "stealthly fired" rrat incredibly stupid. Those guys just fucked off on their own because they didn't give a shit about their jobs, co-workers, and fans.

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>>57042522
Contrary to what cock obsessed catalog niggers think Bae is busy actively working to give a fuck about other failures who couldn't swim

[Anonymous No.]

>so angry sisters are posting on cooldown
holy shit

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>>57042603
Unless they did something that was bad enough to hurt Hololive's reputation, or another talent's reputation, so they buried it.
Which isn't outside the realm of plausibility now.

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>>57038534
>people who funded their holo career
that would be gura

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>>57042627
I’m curious, which ones are sisters? Are they the ones who now hate Magni and Vesper or the ones defending them?

[Anonymous No.]

Why is this board so Schizophrenic about these? I don't get it

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>>57037127
>HolostarsJP : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHl3jygcL54

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>>57042683
Everything is in the realm of plausibility if you don't read public statements and use your own schizo rrats to create your own reality.

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I dont know how delusional you have to think Cover is ever afraid to throw its talents under the bus
They did them a favor with that little fluff piece when those two in a much more strict environment wouldn't have lasted past February or march

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>>57042751
>sister playing dumb
Hmm. Where have I seen word games in this thread already?

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>>57040129
Pls anon link the sana tweet if you have it

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>>57042800
>>57042751
There's one.
Well, another one.

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>>57042817
Can you answer the question? If you can’t I’ll have to assume you’re unable to tell.

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>>57040493
>but during their time at Hololive
The homos had never been in hololive tho

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>>57040129
now i want to see this tweet

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>>57042394
Not to go off-topic but a certain discontinued hololive did pretty much all the same mistakes and more, yet the fans were there to defend her.

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>>57042885
>defends sisters, call it a buzzword, then pretends they don't exist
Found another one.

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>>57042603
lets be real here anon cover is a japanese company so they very probably got banishment room'd into ""graduating""
it's clear there's no love lost internally about them so it's probably a mixture of walking out and pissing everyone off to the point they were basically forced to walk out anyway.

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>>57042280
Yeah I can see you out of the two is seething right now and it's you

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>>57040902
They're dramasisters, purees undastando.

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>>57042850
>>57042896
Context: Sanalites were still concernfagging her because they thought she graduated because of a broken back

[Anonymous No.]

>>57042934
>>57042885

[Anonymous No.]

>>57042986
Three. There's two sisters. You can tell because they post on CD, which is definitely as sign of MAD.
Of course, you know this, since you're one of them thinking you're slick.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57043011
>he can't into English
Hmmm.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57042993
what a fucking mistake of a hire she was

[Anonymous No.]

>>57042992
I dont need much to understand the guys an asshole who fucked over 6 other people because he's greedy and thinks he could be male Mori Calliope and failed

[Anonymous No.]

>>57043102
>>57043011
>Telling creepy faggots who call you by your old persona to fuck off is now bad

You niggers will say putting the fire out at an orphanage is problematic

[Anonymous No.]

>>57043171
She could have at least feigned some empathy for her fans that were concerned for her instead of going "im healthy and love my life without holotrash, now fuck off"

And then there's the cringy "it's dangerous for my work" China bootlicking.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57039043
if you've been in one of their fan discords anon.
they're literally mindbroken and convinced themselves that she likes them
grim.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57043256
>fending for your own income is LE BAD because its LE RACIST REASON I MADE UP

[Anonymous No.]

>>57041597
gives this anon a true

[Anonymous No.]

>>57043287
calm down with the seething troon, watch streams or something

[Anonymous No.]

>>57043287
>he doesn't know about the racism between CN and JP

[Anonymous No.]

>>57042971
They're friends with False and 39daph, right? Bet my ass that we'll hear leaks about what happened and drama later down the line that Holostars EN and Cover will have to address. Don't trust these shitbirds not to cause drama and their associates to vulture on it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57043287
Correct, China is a sociopathic shithole that deserves to be nuked, and everyone who works for dog-eating chinks is an immoral person.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57043340
Money doesn't see racism
Youd know this if you dealt with business outside of handing a Mcdonalds bag to a mom of 3

[Anonymous No.]

>>57038165
This picture makes no sense. Kiara actually bothered to learn enough about him to know what his fans are called. There are hololive members that know even less than that about their peers. She's also not one to play nice and backstab you, if she was seething you would know it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57042993
i dont understand why she didnt just say she was healthy before graduating, that would've basically stopped it right there. the fact that she waited until afterwards and then got concernfagged is her own fault.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57037127
She will be brought to tears if she brings it up thats why she chooses to stay silent

[Anonymous No.]

>>57042993
>have to pick between getting your job as a artist blacklisted by the games you work on and fight some zhangs your entire life or get easy money
You really cant blame her for dipping

[Anonymous No.]

>>57043434
>its her own fault that vtuber fans are creepy niggers who cant let go of a character
Im sure the LOTR guy would appreciate it if you kept calling him Frodo to his face

[Anonymous No.]

>>57043434
"im going to be straight with you"
meaning she was lying about her back to begin with

[Anonymous No.]

>>57037855
ESL

[Anonymous No.]

>>57039189
>Nobody knows, it's more even mysterious than the Sana situation.
There is literally 0 things mysterious about Sana's situation if you saw her RM tweets.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57039235
Two weeks, sister

[Anonymous No.]

>>57043509
You didnt even watch her last streams

[Anonymous No.]

>>57043171
>You niggers will say putting the fire out at an orphanage is problematic
wasnt implying it but yes

[Anonymous No.]

>>57043434
Because letting her idiot fans think she was a crippled martyr was better than saying "I'm a lazy bitch and I don't like vtubing so I'm just gonna quit"

[Anonymous No.]

>>57043575
If you're trying to act like there is some information that you're in the know of, I'll make it clear that I stopped watching her very early on because I did not trust her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57037127
Seethe. They won in the end.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57038165
He sounds like the type of guy that would rape and/or murder a girl for rejecting him.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57037127
Not only crickets she set up a blacklist to filter their names. For someone who went out of her way to start a fight with her own fanbase i would have expected some reaction about her best boy leaving.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57043489
How can you miss the point to that fucking extent?

[Anonymous No.]

>>57043420
>posting from experience

[Anonymous No.]

>>57043654
People said very early on he gave off vibes of a guy who would beat his wife funny enough just by his "wacky stories"

[Anonymous No.]

>>57043686
Tell me what is your headcanon so I can laugh because it's pretty clear as day to me what she means by telling people to I dont know stop calling her fucking Sana in her comments

[Anonymous No.]

>>57043749
>making shit up

[Anonymous No.]

>>57043489
They already do that, at least use a good example, retard

[Anonymous No.]

I'm starting to think the posters of this board are not even real people, this is insane

[Anonymous No.]

>>57043846
Point to me, thanks for showing you have nothing but catalog vomit in your brain

[Anonymous No.]

>>57043930
not even the same guy, keep seething sister

[Anonymous No.]

>>57043963
Im defending a hololive person you buck broken schizo

[Anonymous No.]

>>57037127
Kiara btfo and Mori no interest broke the homobeggars

[Anonymous No.]

>>57044000
> I'm defending a hololive person
>Sana
>buckbroken
ogey sis

[Anonymous No.]

>>57043420
That's not true for CN. Touch grass.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57043749
She created a concernfag fanbase by all her constant "back hort" bullshittery and choose to kill that "ailment" first after graduation after old fans kept being worried for her health.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57042297
>Cover has only ever fired 1 vtuber
>they don't know

[Anonymous No.]

>>57043691
Yeah for someone going out of his way to agitate unicorns, he sounded like he was a unicorn himself at some point, and has that fake nice guy feel to him.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57044091
Its not their job to worry about her health, they chose to be annoying. You can bitch how she worded till you finally commit sudoku, what she did was right. Retards here think of one side but dont think itd be a big issue for her if retards started calling her Sana out of contract while she is actively employed somewhere else

[Anonymous No.]

>>57044119
No one wants to talk about the literal whore except newfags

[Anonymous No.]

>>57042297
A non-watching anti?
Who could have seen this coming?

[Anonymous No.]

>>57044119
From what I know is that she was fired extremely fast, like did she even have a live stream before getting fired?

[Anonymous No.]

>>57044206
Yeah sis, what she and the bois did was right and based.
Its the best fanbase in the world that's the problem

[Anonymous No.]

>>57044257
She debuted on billibilli. She was a png with an animated mouth with mouth tracking.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57044257
Yes. A debut.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57044206
Then she shouldn't use that as an excuse for her laziness, and go back to drawing chinese money grabbing gacha, Sana

[Anonymous No.]

>>57044257
They didn't just fire her, they fired her illustrator, too. Cover is just and brutal when it comes to punishment and when someone asks, "Fuck around," they immediately answer with, "Find out."

[Anonymous No.]

>>57044361
Its hilarious you think she ever stopped working as an artist

[Anonymous No.]

>>57044479
oh you totally burned him sis, you're doing great work camping this thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>57038341
Mori is bitter because her clique is dead and now Gura has total dominance of EN.
This is why she's leeching so hard off Advent in a desperate attempt to reassert herself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57044521
Sooo true sister! You showed her!

[Anonymous No.]

>>57044540
Mori is bitter because she realizes all the shit her RM used to pull as an anti is now happening to her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57042603
Vesper has already gotten suspended once for being a retard internally. I suspect he did/said something stupid again, maybe his Kiara raid or it could be something else, and got more shit for it, and decided it wasn't worth continuing if he was going to get shit every time for relatively minor fuckups. I've been in this situation before so I get it.

I think Magni was half a foot out the door already and left in solidarity with Vesper for the same reasons.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57041374
Magni left because he promised a couple of retards he would get them Gura collabs then failed to deliver.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57044320
Billibilli? Isn’t that the Chinese site, why there?

[Anonymous No.]

I'm not really upset that they're gone, I don't care for the boys although I don't necessarily wish them ill. The circumstances surrounding this make it seem shady and I'm inclined to believe it's their fault, though. I mostly just feel bad for their fans who don't get any closure. Losing an oshi sucks, even if your oshi is a disgusting male.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57044685
CN wasn't an issue when Hololive first started up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57044685
Cover used to be in a partnership with Billibilli to make content for their website

[Anonymous No.]

>>57044709
>>57044725
Just odd hearing about it before the CN branch existed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57039043
>Kronies should watch
They should stay exactly where they are. Containment is working, keep it that way.

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone that's been in corporate for a while knows exactly what kinda dude Vesper is. That new young dude, maybe in IT, that's so starved for female interaction he literally throws away a promising career to go however around the women in HR or whatever, lmao.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57044801
Before CN went schizo on the Coco/Taiwan thing Hololive was working pretty hard to break into that market. They even went so far as to post support to the One China BS, until the entire world shit on them for it, but that could be a mistranslation. You'll have to research that one on your own.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57044893
hover around*
>>57044708
Feel bad for the ones that are left remaining. I don't follow them too closely, but they apparently had some events ruined etc. Imagine half of your gen getting graduated in one go, lmfao

[Anonymous No.]

>>57043429
>She's also not one to play nice and backstab you, if she was seething you would know it.
Anon doesn't know women, they'll smile to your face and then stab you in the back the moment you turn away, sometimes while wearing that exact same smile.

But honestly, Kiara probably didn't mind because a raid is a free CCV boost, but management may not have taken kindly to the act due to prior internal policy in place to protect the girls who don't want to interact with males, which Vesper would be clearly violating.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57044954
The saddest part of all this is it revealed none of the EN girls can really be trusted or used as a canary to figure out what the truth is, unlike with Fubuki or Flare. None of them had enough backbone.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57045030
Kiara would have 100% minded. She might want the CCV boost, but she knows that shit has a price, and it's always Pyrrhic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57044954
Yeah. I do feel bad for them. I even feel bad for their genmates. The boys are fine doing their own thing, or interacting with the girls who want to do that. Their true fans, the ones who don't run around homobegging, they don't deserve this. The ones who leave to follow the PLs, well, good riddance.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57045032
Is it even theirs to signal about? There are still 6 members of StarsEN and one of their RMs has been collabing with the Magni's RM during the hiatus. If anything, asking the girls about the situation is barking up the wrong tree.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57044206
>Its not their job to worry about her health
She made them worry by faking how serious it was, whats so hard to understand?

[Anonymous No.]

>>57045030
>But honestly, Kiara probably didn't mind because a raid is a free CCV boost
She literally talked about how homos kill numbers though...

[Anonymous No.]

>>57037127
>these fired losers
It's been proven that they simply refused to extend their contracts. Most likely they thought that they are better off as indies or in other agency than staying in hobolive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57045361
this is cope

[Anonymous No.]

>>57045396
this is seethe

[Anonymous No.]

Looking forward to Magni ending up fine (even though I still think he's a grifter and clout chasing moron) and Vesper tanking after the initial "IM BACK :)" boost wears off.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57045419
this is projection

[Anonymous No.]

>>57038980
>>hanging out with jp stars instead
your cuck fanfiction is not reality

[Anonymous No.]

>>57044708
I wonder if their graduation was only called that to save face. When Sana graduated they still released a group song with her vocals in it, but Holostars are going to take Magni and Vesper out of the group song they're supposed to be in. Makes me wonder if their "graduation" wasn't really on friendly terms but for whatever reason both parties agreed to call it a graduation in order to protect reputations going forward.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57045519
It's a graduation in name only. When you get a real graduation, you get a ceremony and a send off.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57045094
>Kiara would have 100% minded. She might want the CCV boost, but she knows that shit has a price, and it's always Pyrrhic.
What price is therefor accepting a raid from another streamer? I'm not disputing that she may have complained but I don't think it would be on the basis of being raided, but if anything, on the fact that he knowingly didn't follow rules.

>>57045347
>She literally talked about how homos kill numbers though...
When streaming with them, I can't imagine how accepting a fucking raid would cause viewer drop off though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57045519
Yeah, I don't believe it's on very good terms. It might not be on bad enough terms to call it a termination, but even Sana's was probably nicer than this. This feels like it's the opening salvo of a memory hole.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57045570
>accept
Bruh, she had them open, but you don't get a warning, and Vesper made it perfectly clear he didn't ask for permission beforehand. Which is why he got busted over it.

And the reason streaming with them tanks numbers is the same reason accepting their raids would negatively affect CCV. Stop posting, retardchama.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57037127
Why would anyone show love for these two dipshits trying to grift

[Anonymous No.]

>>57045636
They probably studied the Zaion situation and probably wanted to avoid the fallout (justified or not).

[Anonymous No.]

>>57045519
Homobeggars are concernfagging antis, and they make shit uncomfortable for everyone. Streaming with or accepting a raid from a male talent causes a negative viewing experience because of this.
It's not hard to figure out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57045649
>And the reason streaming with them tanks numbers is the same reason accepting their raids would negatively affect CCV.
>Stop posting, retardchama.
The only retard here is the person who thinks collabing and taking a raid from someone are the same fucking thing

[Anonymous No.]

>>57043030
Translate this into english anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>57045570
>What price is therefor accepting a raid from another streamer?
Did you fucking see the fallout? The board was flooded with Vespiss rats cuckposting and homobeggars were running victory laps on twitter about how the unicornchuds were now epically owned. A fairly big fanartist drew the event while completely misrepresenting Kiara's reaction and making up shit about her coming to Vesper's defense for his (made-up) "harassment" by the evil unicornchuds.

You cannot give homobeggars an inch, not even a nanometer for that matter. They are actually unhinged antis.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57045570
>When streaming with them, I can't imagine how accepting a fucking raid would cause viewer drop off though.
Obviously she cant cause a scene then and there, it would've been insanely stupid to do.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57045764
The sister is back from the catalogshitting, everyone.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57045553
Nah Holostars have never done a graduation stream, even Kira didn't have one and he parted on better terms than any of the others. That said, Magni and Vesper's graduation seems more in line with what happened to Kaoru. Kaoru did technically graduate, but his disappearance seemed more like a termination.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57045760
see >>57045742
Even ITT you can see the negative effects, retardchama. And money isn't even involved here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57045570
>I can't imagine how accepting a fucking raid would cause viewer drop off though.
Anything to do with Tempus causes viewer dropoff. They poison everything they touch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57037127
Thanks for updating me on this topic, what Mori said is interesting

[Anonymous No.]

>>57038165
man i would like to care about her, i like her game choice i like her opinion on shit but i'm struggling hard with that voice same with shiori, but for an austrian struggling for her goals i will give her that 7/10 idol

[Anonymous No.]

>>57037273
Nice meme

[Anonymous No.]

>>57045030
If you think kiara didn't mind it you neither watch her nor know anything about her.

Kiara has gone to enormous effort over the span of years at this point to cultivate her fandom, the absolute last thing she wants is an internal culture war errupting in kfp because of a one off collab. She's smart and knows that that's all that would happen.

Enter vesper who going by his language didn't notify nor ask her permission to raid her, something that is likely against company rules ad risks everything she's worked so hard to build because a certain retard "will collab with your oshi"

I wouldn't be remotely surprised if the first thing she did after turning off for the day was to send vesper a reminder to please notify her of intentions to raid her before doing so in the future while muttering choice words in german under her breath kek.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57045810
Wuh?

[Anonymous No.]

>>57039043
Women of the alternative lifestyle always associate themselves with terrible men then blame all men.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57046007
I highly doubt she was polite about it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57046068
Preach anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57045869
>>57045880
>>57045792
>>57045778
>Anything to do with Tempus causes viewer dropoff.
Do you have literally any evidence at all to support your idea that accepting a raid causes viewer drop-off? Not a single person ITT has provided literally anything following logic that it even should. Ironically, the only people actually causing problems with this are unicorn fags.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57046138
seethe sister

[Anonymous No.]

>>57046138
Kiara got raided today by a male 2 viewer. Nothing happened.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57046007
>the absolute last thing she wants is an internal culture war errupting in kfp because of a one off collab
Except she didnt fucking collab with anyone. What is the fucking risk for a raid? NOBODY can explain this

[Anonymous No.]

>>57040902
Hi Magni. Die.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57037327
lmao I didn't take the karaoke that way but I love this rrat now

[Anonymous No.]

>>57046226
see (once again) >>57045742

[Anonymous No.]

>>57046138
I never said 1 single raid causes a viewer drop-off, but continously interacting with them is proven to do it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57046177
This is the only reply you have, nice

[Anonymous No.]

>>57042941
ANON THIS IS A BLUE BOARD!

[Anonymous No.]

>>57046308
>ignored the other two responses
typical

[Anonymous No.]

Do you think Cover blacklisted Magni and Vesper from joining any other vtuber agency? After what they did and returning back to their RM, seems likely.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57046305
>I never said 1 single raid causes a viewer drop-off, but continously interacting with them is proven to do it.
A raid isn't even a fucking interaction. It's a dumping of viewers from one streamer to another.

[Anonymous No.]

Kronii's reaction is the most priceless.
She jinxed everything for nothing except getting pumped and dumped.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57042522
Uhm... Bae is more into the JP side of Holostars than the EN side

[Anonymous No.]

>>57046365
see (twice again) >>57045742

[Anonymous No.]

>>57045361
>It's been proven that they simply refused to extend their contracts
No it hasn't.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57037127
How about you look at their genmates and agencymates instead of completely unrelated girls

[Anonymous No.]

>>57046138
I'll say it again, troon. Tempus poisons everything they touch. Literally fucking everything.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57045869
>>57046285
>>57046405

>>57045742
>Homobeggars are concernfagging antis, and they make shit uncomfortable for everyone. Streaming with or accepting a raid from a male talent causes a negative viewing experience because of this.
You keep posting this but it doesn't change anything. Vespers viewers getting dumped into Kiaras stream isn't a fucking interaction. And again, the only people making it a problem are, ironically, the fucking unicorns.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57046508
>ignores facts
>NO ONE PROVED IT
actual schizo

[Anonymous No.]

>>57039189
Sana was likely fighting with management and her contract wasn't renewed. The situation with Magni and Vesper looks similar except they got a double termination.

>All we know is that they're the ones who wished to graduate.
Cover wants people to believe that but the lack of graduation streams indicates that something happened. If Kronii was asking for a redesign and they were asking management to listen to her that would explain the odd sequence of events. They both get their redesigns, Magni posted that cryptic members message that "A Maglord always pays his debts", and they went radio silent for 6 weeks before getting fired.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57046531
>thinks that dumping your viewers into someone elses stream is the same as interacting with them
actual schizo

[Anonymous No.]

>>57046568
Copying language is a psychopath strategy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57046568
>two sets of incompatible fans interacting is good
retardchama... I...

[Anonymous No.]

>>57046602
Better a psychopath than an emotional moron.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57046657
>just straight up admits to being a psychopath to "own" the unicorns
lmao homobeggars everyone
this is why accepting a raid from a male talent is bad, it's because of you and yours
being around you is unfun

[Anonymous No.]

Final rrat: Vesper decided he would rather quit the sweetest gig of his life than have to do karaoke sober at 8 in the morning
Also Magni is a fucking faggot

[Anonymous No.]

>>57046347
Doubt it 2bh
Magni feels like he joined just to funnel people to his RM content.
Vesper probably thinks he'll be better off without the blue dorito, let's see how that works out for him.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57046653
>incompatible fans
I watched both Vesper and Kiara (and Mori, Magni, Kronii, Gura, Fauna.. etc etc) according to you I shouldn't even exist?

[Anonymous No.]

>>57046783
see >>57046722

[Anonymous No.]

Did Kronii really stay radio silent? I thought Vesper was her bff or something

[Anonymous No.]

>>57046722
>homobeggars
I'm not even a homobegger. At no point did I suggest any of these people should collab, but merely that raids aren't a big fucking deal. Mentally ill unicorns are the only ones who do.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57046783
>kiara has low numbers
Causation? Not proven. Correlation? Strongly proven.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57041397
I don’t get what you are trying to say. The picture clearly shows that holostars are the 2 fastest growing branch. Isn’t that good?

[Anonymous No.]

>>57046842
>I'm not a homobeggar
>NOW ACCEPTS THE HOMO RAID
>UNIIIIIIIIICOOOOOOOORNS
lmao retardchama is going all out!

[Anonymous No.]

>>57046924
meds

[Anonymous No.]

>>57046950
stop taking other people's meds

[Anonymous No.]

>>57046226
The risk is obvious. Beggars causing a scene and from there battlelines get quickly drawn as a culture war starts.

Kiara doesn't want that risk and she neither wants nor needs the one off small ccv boost vesper provided.

As for the ccv vesper gave her, kiara is the only member in en who will play niche jrpgs to completion, methinks she's not going to care about a measly during a chill minecraft stream.
>>57046082
lol true, but given kiara is who she is she probably used passive aggressive language.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57046924
Anon, did you forget to take your meds today? Your posts are becoming more and more heated and incomprehensible. I would suggest taking a break until you feel better.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57047010
>posting on CD
lmao

[Anonymous No.]

Are they actually gone?

[Anonymous No.]

>>57047002
This was explained to them half a dozen times now.
Their response? "NU UH!"

You can't reach them. Their crab-mentality insanity is only complete if they drag everyone down and shut down Hololive.
Because they're not there to help a VTuber succeed, they're there to ruin them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57046842
Are these so called powerful "uNiCoRnS" in the room with us right now anon?

Come on man get some help, take your meds and unironically touch some grass

[Anonymous No.]

>>57047048
I haven’t posted in this thread for probably 30 minutes before this, are you okay? Are you hallucinating these “cooldown posters” now?

[Anonymous No.]

>>57047066
Yes

[Anonymous No.]

>>57047066
Magni and Vesper? yes. Their roommates are both back, but those are slightly different.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57047002
>Beggars causing a scene
Again, beggars aren't even the ones causing a scene, it's the unicorns who are losing their minds because a male raided a female streamer. Unicorns, as always, are their own worst enemy. How's that panning out for Rushia stans these days?

[Anonymous No.]

>>57047128
Backlink your posts. I need a laugh.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57047186
Without unicorns, there is no VTubing scene.
Without homobeggars, someone loses 300 views.
You lose. Take the L.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57047113
If you're not a unicorn then you shouldn't care. But you clearly do.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57047186
anon why are you furiously refreshing this page if you think calling someone a cooldown poster is such an insult kek. you know that’s exactly what you are right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>57044618
I could really use that one image of the monkey at the typewriter right now

[Anonymous No.]

>>57047273
>"I'm not a homobeggar, I'm also a fan of Kiara."
Interesting take here, bud.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57045030
Well, if Vesper was not a complete retard on his stream to say that he only raided her to piss people off then management likely would have less issues with it

[Anonymous No.]

>>57046479
Not an argument

[Anonymous No.]

>>57047305
I use an extension that auto-refreshes. You should try it someday.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57047314
This is something Mori's RM has admitted to ON STREAM.
You're just proving homobeggars don't watch streams, as if the numbers weren't enough to prove it already.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57038165
>this will definitely piss people off and there's no reason to do it
>let's do it anyway
Rest in piss you cunt. The success of Myth and Myth fans are the only reason you had any opportunity to work for Cover in the first place.
Unintentional drama happens. There's misunderstandings and unintended consequences arising from genuine mistakes or people just not thinking before they speak or act. This wasn't that. He knew and specifically acknowledged that it would anger people and that seemed to be his driving motivation behind doing it. Regardless of where you come down on the unicorn issue you have the acknowledge that someone who takes actions that are primarily motivated by pissing off someone else's fans has no business working in this industry.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57041325
>organizing
Some of them, yes
>encouraging
rratshit

[Anonymous No.]

>>57047377
>he thinks you need an extension for that
Anon... how new?

[Anonymous No.]

>>57047317
>homobeggar
You pretend unicorns don't even exist then claim everyone who doesn't agree with you is a homobeggar. LOL

[Anonymous No.]

>>57047537
>you, a unicorn, pretend unicorns don't exist, even after making posts like these (>>57047252)!!!!
lmao seethe cope dilate AND schizo

[Anonymous No.]

>>57043171
That aside, still a waste of them big chocolate tiddies

[Anonymous No.]

>>57047454
>How new
More like how old. 4chan did not auto-refresh without an extension when I first started using it. It's a bit funny that you first accuse me of furiously refreshing the page, then I explain how auto-refresh works and now you want to be like "oh you didn't know it does that?" FOOH

[Anonymous No.]

>>57043434
I think it's obvious that management told her to lie about her medical problems. Zaion talked about how Niji management told her she was inexplicably going on vacation to visit her parents, when that was in fact her first suspension.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57047577
When did you stop taking your meds? You are utterly incoherent.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57047252
Unicorns are irrelevant. Gachikoi are the whales in the vtuber industry. While the venn diagram of the two has significant overlap, it's disingenuous arguing in bad faith to confuse the two.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57047679
The auto-refresh has been there for over ten years now, anon, and 4chan's auto refresh is OLDER THAN SOME BROWSERS...
lmao go pretend someplace else, kid

[Anonymous No.]

>>57047679
Nta but you are a moron

[Anonymous No.]

>>57045030
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you don't know kiara, she can't keep her mouth shut for a fucking god damn second about a single thing. she SEETHED backwards and forwards for MONTHS that gura was getting more attention, and you could feel the resentment. she can't disguise SHIT.
called en management cringe for lore, made a SCENE calling them bigger cringe for council lore, seethed at gura for getting attention, seethed at mori for not reciprocating her friendship in the same way, seethed at ame being the driving force behind all their concerts even going so far as to take her spot in the lineup (center) during the smol concert "oops i didnt know i wasnt supposed to be in the middle while you are giving a speech setting up all the hard work you did, teehee oops", fuck she even seethed at ina for being good at art, then she seethed at irys for becoming a vsinger "oh i would have applied but they didnt even GIVE ME THE OPTION" 20 minute rant, seethed at umisea getting created instead of holotori being promoted, snapped back at artemis for raiding her, talks shit on management, talks shit on other idols and idol companies, and is CONSTANTLY airing professional greviances publically in her SC readings

she has literally no ability to control or contain her emotions for even a second, she's like an open, whiny, crying, entitled, book

[Anonymous No.]

>>57047692
it is obvious that you are a moron

[Anonymous No.]

>>57047770
>The auto-refresh has been there for over ten years now, anon
I'm pretty sure it's not 10 years old but I've been here longcat is long enough that auto-refresh really wasn't a think without running an addon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57047844
and yet... she's still employed. Whatever she's doing, it's working out for her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57047874
Yeah, it's older. It existed for several years before the Trump presidency. Heck, it existed before half the boards on 4chan.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57047874
Ok,boomer.stop talking off-topic topics

[Anonymous No.]

>>57047983
I hate admitting I'm basically a fucking boomer in this place. Bring back Snacks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57047863
my dude, she doesn't like you. At the end of the day, it's contacts, time and money.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57037369
the real chad move was buying a trip to japan to get calli or kronii pussy only to be rejected and have a weeks long mental breakdown

[Anonymous No.]

>>57047186
If you take the time to read why people criticize the raid you'll notice the majority of them complain about vespers poor conduct. Kiara herself handled it flawlessly, professionally thanking it and then resuming her stream like nothing happened.
As for unicorns making scenes I say the following as someone who posts on a variety of boards. In general it is in fact the beggars who cause the most drama. most unicorns are very much aware they're the boogeyman of the industry so they either remain on places like /here/ or they massively censor themselves and avoid blatantly breaking containment.

Meanwhile beggars will constantly shit up discussion places constantly bitching and moaning about how badly treated the boys are, how bad the girls are for ignoring the boys and they see nothing wrong breaking containment. even frequently going so far as to shit up the actual streams.

Put simply unicorns generally remain peaceful unless some sort of drama happens or someone antagonizes them. beggars intentionally stir up drama whererver they go.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57048102
Well, it goes to their mentality and goals.
Unicorns left behind being shamed for peace, and enjoy a girl putting on a show for them.
Beggars chased them to continue to shit on everything.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57048102
>If you take the time to read why people criticize the raid you'll notice the majority of them complain about vespers poor conduct.
I'm not defending vespers poor conduct, I'm responding to a specific claim that Kiara will lose viewers because of male raids, which is simply asinine.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57040493
they would be the loud guy at the dork's group who they allow to be there just to keep things from going too quiet, but never hang out with.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57048192
Yes, if she tolerated it and it kept happening, she would.
I think you're trying to find a "foot in the door" to keep the destruction going. snibbity snab go be a crab

[Anonymous No.]

>>57047844
Jesus Christ are you in love with her

[Anonymous No.]

>>57046726
>Magni is a fucking faggot
True.
If anything I only feel sorry for Vesper. Dude had issues, but he tried.
Magni gave 0 fucks, just like Sana.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57047950
uhh no one fucking asked or mentioned that?

you stupid? I said she cant keep her mouth shut, there's no WAY she would have been mad at vesper and kept a lid on it you halfwit. she would have complained, not just RIGHT away, but then ranted about it in that streams SC tangent, then ranted about it for like a week. grow a brain.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57048265
NTA but yeah.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57048313
Why would she complain? She won. He's fired.
You also lost, btw.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57037127
Kiara hated them because both of them actually mogged her during their peak. It didn't last long though lol.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57037327
Reassured her fans, celebrated this told the homobeggars to fuck off and made them seethe.
Best girl.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57048192
My point anon is that vesper raiding kiara brings in beggars. Whenever beggars are around drama isn't far behind.
Sure nothing happened but the risks of it happening were very much real and had vesper done what would have been good manners and is probably company policy anyway and asked kiara if he could raid her she would have probably said no for that precise reason.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57048461
Which is why he didn't ask, and that's why they had less of a problem letting him go without any tears or fanfare.
Bummer, I guess.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57037369
You think they had sex? With anyone?
Lol, Lmao even.
The only thing they might have maybe had sex with is men, possibly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57048244
>Yes, if she tolerated it and it kept happening, she would.
But what makes you think that? I do not see why, as long as she maintains a professional distance, accepting raids from male members of her own company would ever have a negative impact. It's not like the livestream chat really talks to other chat. She wouldn't have raids open if she was actually all that concerned about it.

Please be aware that I'm asking specifically because you're the best faith response I've seen this entire thread. I'll admit that beggars spill out more because they're way more aligned with normies, but a ton of people in this thread are using the discourse IN THIS THREAD as some sort of example of the problems but don't seem to understand that the only discourse being had is unicorns whining about male interaction. Like they don't see how they're shooting themselves in the foot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57048738
>but what makes you think that?!
the literal tanking of numbers by association
Not hard

[Anonymous No.]

>>57048803
>the literal tanking of numbers by association
Evidence? Who's numbers tanked? When did they tank? How much?

[Anonymous No.]

>>57048738
see (thrice again) >>57045742
You can't transfer shitty homobeggar behavior to a group that rarely acts. Homobeggars are cancer, they do not support VTubing, they don't watch streams, they don't donate, and they don't care. They're just locusts that swarm in, eat everything, shit on everything, then leave when the drama is over. Because that's what they chase, drama.

And you just prove it over and over. You don't listen to reason, you only start stupid fights over broken logic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57048868
Go ask /#/s, they'll have no problems educating you.
Of course, even if they did, you'd still reject it and shitpost. You're a homobeggar. Facts and logic are your enemy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57048924
>broken logic
I'm ignoring you because your logic is the one that's broken, and you somehow think that repeating yourself will change that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57049034
>drama dries up because thread is dying
>homobeggar is now going to "ignore me"
lmao you can't make this shit up

[Anonymous No.]

>>57048990
>push responsibility for my claims onto someone else
I thought I had an actual decent faith actor here for a second but I guess not.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57049086
>homobeggar
I'm ignoring you because you clearly aren't talking to me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57049095
>try to push blame on unicorns
>WHY ARE YOU STOPPING THAT?!
lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>57049174
You're the ones claiming that accepting raids from males will lower numbers without presenting a lick of evidence.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57049155
>I'm not a homobeggar, I just demand female talents accept homo raids!
You had this thought but didn't think it through.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57049231
>I think a collab is the same thing as a raid
How are you even alive? Because you're clearly too fucking stupid to breathe.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57049229
>homobeggars act like apes and ruin streams
>WHERE IS THE EVIDNECE I'M GOING TO RUIN THIS THREAD LIKE A HOMOBEGGAR
rur rumaou

[Anonymous No.]

>>57049277
What's the overlapping factor?
Homobeggars shitting on the fans next to them until they leave.
You're the problem. Can't that's "fourth again," btw.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57045519
Pretty much. All parties want to save face: the departing homos want to be able to stream post-homostars without any clouds hanging over them while Cover would like to save face for their failed Tempus endeavor because they know they caused permanent damage to HoloEN and left so much fucking money on the table by betting on western homos over EN3 in 2022.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57039189
In Japan there's that thing called "power harassment" aka powa hara where instead of directly-firing someone they put them in gay baby jail where they can't actually do any real/normal work and are physically isolated from their other coworkers in a basement office or something - like that one seinfeld episode where they couldn't legally fire George but wanted him out, so tried to make his work essentially impossible.. that actually kind of happens in Japan. They're put in no fun allowed mode too where basically you can't do or have much, and your "tasks" for the day are to sort papers or something else menial and mind-numbig until you quit "voluntarily" like a good boy so.

I dunno what the vtuber equivalent of that is because usually this happens to salaryman ojisans but, "you can't use your vtuber account for anything, you can't do anything, and this will go on for an indeterminate amount of time... don't worry you're not fired tho :)" would probably be pretty close to equivalent. Of course, I dunno if that's what happened but it vaguely looks like it. It looks like a much-lesser degree of it also was implemented onto Coco before she left too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57049328
>Homobeggars shitting on the fans next to them until they leave.
How? When? Is there any evidence or historical case for this to occur?

[Anonymous No.]

>>57049532
Yup. You're here trying to shit on unicorns, aren't you? They weren't even involved this time. You are the proof.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57049587
>You're here trying to shit on unicorns, aren't you?
Again, homobeggars aren't the ones who care that Kiara was raided by a male. This wouldn't even be a discussion if the unicorns didn't make it one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57049670
Post screenshots of unicorns causing a problem over the Kiara raid.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57049699
>Post screenshots of unicorns causing a problem over the Kiara raid.
Want to talk about shit happening ITT? See >>57038165

[Anonymous No.]

>>57049789
>backlinks to a screenshot of VESPER BEING THE PROBLEM AND GETTING PUNISHED FOR IT
>IT WAS THE UNICORNS!
lol lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>57049789
Anon... Vesper isn't a unicorn...

[Anonymous No.]

>all this seethe
The world really is healing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57049853
>>57049929
Now this is some premium cope. Why do you think that poster posted that screenshot?

[Anonymous No.]

>>57046007
If she didn't want to be raided she shouldn't have the option to let anyone raid her. You have to let anyone or specify specific people to be able to be raided.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57049929
But he sure sounded like one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57050029
Because Vesper fucked up? Not hard, really.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57050242
>Because Vesper fucked up?
You phrased your answer as a question so it sounds like you're not sure. Huh. Neat.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57050351
Okay, I'll do it again because English confuses you.
Because Vesper fucked up.

Where's the cope going to go now?

[Anonymous No.]

>>57037327
irys is married and can't collab with dudes because of her husband.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57050382
>Okay, I'll do it again because English confuses you.
English confuses me? I'm not the one phrasing answers as questions here.
>Because Vesper fucked up.
That might be the what, but not the why. WHY would they display Vesper fucking up? Maybe try putting yourself in that posters shoes for a minute and see it from their perspective. I believe in you, you can do it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57050805
They posted it because it's funny and this was the CONSEQUENCES OF HIS OWN ACTIONS.
It does NOT prove unicorns caused any problems, because they literally didn't. Notice how VTubers don't chase unicorns away without a dip in numbers. But chasing homobeggars away? That's pure success.
Now tell me how you hate Gura.