/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

>top earners of their gen
>too cheap to pay artists for their work
Sigma Grindset or losing touch?

[Anonymous No.]

Artniggers deserve everything bad that happens to them
Smug parasites the lot of them and I‘m glad AI is gonna completly replace them

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>>56934192
maximizing gains while minimizing losses, chad play

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>>56934192
They already pay me to be their shared desk chair

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>>56934315
They didn't use AI jingles though :^)

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The seethe they're creating from antis is delicious
Get BAU BAU'd on. Also every vtuber has been doing it with outfit predictions for 3 years now

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>>56934315
Till this day I laughed at artsfag crying about AIniggers beating them with just keying a bunch prompts

[Anonymous No.]

Weird how no one ever complains when 383648 different vtubers use fan art made for free for thumbnails

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>>56934192
Joshua, WE DON'T CARE
Bau Bau fuck yourself

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>>56934442
Rosemi paid for her theme.

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>>56934315
All the VTubers you watch and all the games, animated shows and manga you consume have artists behind them

[Anonymous No.]

after they move to japan and learn how to make genuine jp contents and build networks to jp creators they will pour money into many projects like marine. too early to waste money. they have no network and know about no creators

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>>56934192
>Sigma Grindset or losing touch?
I'll give you more realistic option: they don't know how big their clout is. It hasn't sink in them yet how powerful being hololive talent is.

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>>56934192
I'm going to at least give you credit for making this bait with a slight twist in flavour. You're still a faggot, though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>56934192
AI Master Race
Total Artist Death
https://files.catbox.moe/0b1mku.mp4

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>>56934192

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>>56934418
>outfit predictions
This is how I can tell you have the mental capacity of a toddler. You don’t have the faculties to distinguish between the two cases.
Either that, or you’re willing to delude yourself for some random internet women with nice voices and sexy models who spend the buttfuck of money they earn not on commisioning the hard work of their fans but most likely on spoiling their boyfriends or maybe even their fucking kid.
Retard.

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>>56934419
You ever notice that it's the "artists" who use a digital tablet and hit control-z over 9k times who are complaining and not the fellas that work in oils?

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>>56934315
>>56934419
>t.wannabe artists but too dumb and too lazy to practice

[Anonymous No.]

JPs get asmr tingles
ENs write their jingles

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>>56934843
Bau Bau

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>>56934843
They're literally the same case.
>vtuber asks community for art
Now go ahead and do your mental gymnastics to tell me how they're different
BAU BAU!

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>>56934192
makes an event that shows off their fans talents for free that you can participate if you'd like or not. still wants money kek. and that's why no one commissions you retard.

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>>56934192
While you seething here
they got hundreds of jingle sent their way
completely for free
by the people that love them
PS: OP is a fag.

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>>56934315
isnt this vtuber board. this NEET tranny must always think of ai

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>>56934418
>seethe they're creating from antis
Sadly, it seems to be when Shiori gets shit on for numbers, that the OP comes out. He takes his frustration out on us.

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>>56934192
>top earners of their gen
>too smart to pay for a jingle they can get from their fans for free
ftfy

[Anonymous No.]

Someone give a QRD

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>>56934192
i would donate all my organs for FWMC

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>>56935435
Success breeds jealousy

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>>56934615
Japanese artists. That's the difference.

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>>56934615
Not much longer

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Reminder that if you support ai taking jobs from artists you have no ground to stand on to oppose immigrants taking jobs.

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>>56935435
OP is a tranny fag who wont have a job in 5 years because of AI, so now they're seething here

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>>56935435
Mori's friend is sperging out on Twitter over a fan made contest for a jingle on fuwamoco morning.

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>>56934192
i know this is bait but for anyone who falls for it you don't get youtube money straight away, it'll be another month before they get their first big payday

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>>56935256
esl retard

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>>56935084
Because they’re not profiting off the outfit predictions. They are just engaging in a fun way with the community before unveiling the actual outfit.
With the jingle, they are literally commissioning work from their fans that they will regularly use for their morning streams to essentially improve their quality/their branding. Where is the engagement? Are we going to hear all the submissions, get mentions for their creators? Probably not, they will just select one behind the scenes and (might) give a mention to the winner. My question is why is the winner not rewarded otherwise? Like at least give them a Starbucks giftcard instead of cheaping out and making it look like you just swindled them for free work.

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>>>56935654
Who are these indian spergs ITT that are having a mental breakdown over their AI turds then?

[Anonymous No.]

Josh how does it feel to know Mori unfollowed you lol

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This timeloop again?

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>>56934192
>10 second clip
>artist

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>>56935656
>it'll be another month before they get their first big payday
Doesn’t matter, it’s the same anti with a new story each time.

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>>56935435
Fuwamoco are holding a contest for fans to come up with a jingle for Fuwamoco Morning and it's making a gay retard named Joshua absolutely seethe for no sane reason.

[Anonymous No.]

>this thread again
keep trying anon, I'm sure this rrat will catch on.
maybe try messaging that usagi faggot?

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>>56935615
Wrong. I support robots taking our jobs.

[Anonymous No.]

trannies dont even know making a 10 sec clip is much easier than making a coloured fanart. seems this board has some drawfags but dont any actual music creators.

its like drawing some shitty black and white one panel comic for twatter. you can finish it in 30 mins or even its possible in 10 mins.

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>>56935758
>My question is why is the winner not rewarded otherwise?
Because the prize is getting your jingle used for Fuwamoco morning.
>Like at least give them a Starbucks giftcard instead of cheaping out and making it look like you just swindled them for free work.
Some people create things for the sake of creating them and don't need a profit motive, you fucking sociopath.

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>>56934192

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>>56935758
The girls have been mostly very smart so far. Cover is also /here/. They might do something like rotate which ones they use or whatever. Who knows.

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>>56936317
>cover is /here/
yagoo wtf why did it take you years to get vtubers that actually play a character instead of woman with a lot subscriber's that watch anime ONLY because it's the cool thing to do

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imagine what's going to happen when this faggot learns that everyone in the medium uses and prefers free music from dova-syndrome, and that some vtubers get their whole equipment donated through throne

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>>56936205
>Because the prize is getting your jingle used for Fuwamoco morning.
Do you know how patronizing/egotistical this sounds? If I join the Lakers, do I not need to get paid because I have the privilege of playing with them and being on TV?

>Some people create things for the sake of creating them and don't need a profit motive, you fucking sociopath.
I don’t doubt it, and more power to them. But this looks bad for the company/talent because the impression is that they are taking advantage of that exact fact and getting something for free.

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>>56934843
>You don’t have the faculties to distinguish between the two cases.
You're right, they are different. The outfit guesses take several hours of work from artists and will show up on stream for maybe a minute. A 10s jingle, on the other hand, would take maybe half an hour to throw together, and if you're lucky it will be used every single morning news stream they do.

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>>56937101
eh, artists seem happy with a twitter mention.
i've seen many streams where the girls ask for art of a situation.
no one cares usually, but it's very hard to find any controversy around fwmc. so here we are.

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>>56934843
Theres too much seethe in this post to be ironic. I know this may be hard for you to understand, so read what comes afters this sentence several times until you feel something quiver above your mongoloid eyebrows. Just because you (yes you) dont have enough talent or knowledge to make a ten(10) second jingle, doesnt mean you have any valid input on what people do with their time, especially when they have a non-monetary inspiration. If they want good, professional, or otherwise marketable assests, they can fivr some dungus for it for probably a few hundred USD. Propose a better system (im not going to pay you for it) or sit in the corner whining about how youll never leave your miserable pit, cretin.

[Anonymous No.]

it takes longer to draw art and paint the bitch than it is to make a 10sec jingle.
hell, making a fucking meme image takes more effort.

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>>56937534
>a ten(10) second jingle
For the OP, add some zeros.

[Anonymous No.]

They haven't received any youtube money yet.

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>>56937101
>Do you know how patronizing/egotistical this sounds?
0% patronizing. 0% egotistical. It's a fan contest to come up with a jingle and the prize is having your jingle chosen. Fans are voluntarily participating because having their jingle chosen is the only prize they want. I'll say it again, you're a sociopath.
>I don’t doubt it
You don't even understand it.
>But this looks bad for the company/talent
Wrong. It looks bad for you.

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>>56934192
you guys are so desperate and still can't find anything to latch on to shit on the twins huh

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>>56937860
the fag doesn't know that haachama has been doing it for years when she was active.
but of course, this newfag wouldn't know that.

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>>56937534
>doesnt mean you have any valid input on what people do with their time
I’m not criticizing the fans at all, but rather FWMC for taking advantage of them.

>If they want good, professional, or otherwise marketable assests, they can fivr some dungus for it for probably a few hundred USD.
Why don’t think actual professionals will be participating?

>Propose a better system
Nigga just give the winner a tangible reward to make it look like a fair exchange. A merch, an autograph. A giftcard.

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>>56938353
every fan that submitted a jingle thinks that fwmc using their music is a fair reward

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>>56934615
and they are all faggots :)

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>>56938516
b-b-but they should pay money
>oh my god, do you see how little fwmc value the time of the people making jingles? this is totally not fair payment, they are undervaluing the hard work of professionals
people will bitch about anything.

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>>56935758
>Are we going to hear all the submissions, get mentions for their creators?
Of course they will do a stream to check them out, duh
All of the Hololive fan participation projects are like this
And they have been showing names even for random question or dog photo tweets
>Probably not, they will just select one behind the scenes and (might) give a mention to the winner.
??????
And you get this from?
>Like at least give them a Starbucks giftcard instead of cheaping out and making it look like you just swindled them for free work.
If they want to pay money for actual professional work they would, they already did with the oisong, bgm, and debut opening tune, professional work is not what they are looking for here
And if they put money as prize some random ass semi-pro who don't even care for them will join for the money and exposure while drowning out some the amateur genuine fans, and they don't want that, they key here is fan participation

>>56938353
>Why don’t think actual professionals will be participating?
if there are professional participating then they themselves are fine with just exposure and why are you complaining lmao

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>Joshua comes /here/ after being laughed at on twitter

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>>56938353
Contests with rewards are a pain in the ass to run with many legal concerns. Too much trouble. Yes, i'm sure that 2view indie does but none will notice them to cause problems.

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As a freelancer I can only laugh at this retard who got blacklisted by fucking cover all because he wanted some likes on X. Hope it pays your bills man.

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>>56934192
Joshua please

[Anonymous No.]

why are amerimutts always so jealous. its always amerimutts

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>>56934192
>top earners
Split the difference anon. They are the bottom Biboo is the top earner.

[Anonymous No.]

yet again entitled americans cant mind their own fking business

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>>56934192
Just don't work for them. Nobody has a gun to your head and says "make ze jingle for the baubau". Only a true blue 2 yr. community college Arts-degree having niggerartist grifter would demand payment for a whole 15 minutes of work. Fucking hate zoomer artists on twitter

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>>56938353
>I’m not criticizing the fans at all, but rather FWMC for taking advantage of them.
Yes and your criticism of Fuwamoco is completely retarded and baseless.
>Nigga just give the winner a tangible reward
No. The contest isn't for tangible rewards.
>make it look like a fair exchange
It's a completely fair exchange, sociopathchama. Ruffians want to make a jingle for Fuwamoco Morning at no cost and they're being allowed to do it.

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>>56934315
fpbp thread should have ended here

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>>56934192
The day of the rope is soon, artshitter.

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>>56934192
two persons, one account

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>>56935799
it was mori and someone else following him, did they actually unfollow? nigger is blocking anyone who tells him he's a retard

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This whole situation is kind of funny to me because I remember that Selen has to BEG ANYCOLOR TO BE ALLOWED TO PAY THE WINNER OF HER COSTUME COMPETITION OUT OF HER OWN POCKET and she gets constant shit from sisters here for commissioning everything instead of making everything herself

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>>56934843
Go fuck yourself Joshua.

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Anon.... Do you even know how youtube works? They have to cash out to get the money from youtube. This isn't like paypal. Then, there's the process of Cover's cut so it has to go through them first I wold believe and they get what's left afterwords. It's not as much as you think it is, at least until they start getting the membership money along with it.

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>>56934192
They haven't gotten their first big paycheck, yet. Hell, they might actually be in debt. Give it another month or two.

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>>56939621
This. Fuwamoco is beloved by fans, but is a failure in numbers. They could have had 2 accounts, but instead they allowed them to share one. They need to have twice as many subscribers, views, superchats, merch buyers than the rest of the girls.

Taking the two lowest 389k + 403k, Fuwamoco would need to have 792k subscribers to compare. Yet they have just 520k. Thats 260k each.

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>>56934315
> person who has no skills that can contribute to society economically, socially, culturally, educationally etc and cant explain how “AI” works says “ai is the future”

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>>56935435
>>56920079
>Nijinigger trying to outtroon twitter in 4chan of all places
Grim. Even twitter blasted him.

[Anonymous No.]

Yet another Phasefag post, neck yourself

[Anonymous No.]

>>56934192
I coloured it baubaus.
I got new pencils!

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>>56934192
MORI CHANGEd HER HENSHIN MUSIC , EAT THAT SHIT JOSHUA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwENDeUFtpQ

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>>56935758
>Because they’re not profiting off the outfit predictions
the stream segment it creates generates a lot of ccv + ad revenue + supas

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>>56941703
topkek

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>>56941703
she also unfollowed him
mori can be great sometimes

[Anonymous No.]

>>56941703
since when does mori transform?

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>>56934315
Fpbp

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>>56941703
owned

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>>56941629
Deviantart tier shit
Keep drawing sonic oc instead

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>>56935537
FWMC morning jingle will be made by a Japanese person

[Anonymous No.]

if i dont wanna send a superchat i can just send a jingle
its that simple

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>>56941197
It's funny since the poster they made doesn't say they won't credit or compensate the winner. In fact it would be odd to think they wouldn't get credit.

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>>56934482
Kyori didn't pay for hers

[Anonymous No.]

damn alot of untalented anons here.
learn to draw, fags.

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>>56942162
It is said that people on /vt/ can speak a lot of languages.
But the only language I see from you is aids and failure.

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>>56934843
If spending 1-2 hours max doing something you want without monetary gain or exposure is exploiting you should stop being an artist, when art turns 100% in only a give and take transaction, art dies on that day

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>>56941703
now i think he has to remove the association to Mori on his bio and stick to grifting his patreon supporters about how to retardedly interpret video game music

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>>56935758
>a drawing that tooks hours is okay because
>a jingle that took 1 hour if you made it really well isn't okay because
Ogey

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>>56937101
Yes, playing in the Lakers with a millionaire contract is the same as giving away 2 hours of your time for free

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>>56935758
think of giving them a jingle like giving them a superchat
you're showing support in both, and they profit from both.
if your jingle gets catchy enough and you get noticed, you might imagine ways you can profit too
anyone manage to profit off of sending a superchat? maybe if Eating Mike Tyson's Ass had a fun youtube channel?

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>>56934192
I bet there'll be some sound professionals in this, if they're fine giving 1 or 2 hours of their work for free then why the fuck someone else is seething?

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>>56934192
>every interaction with fans must have financial incentive
Fuck off. You think niggas draw fanart expecting to get paid? A fucking ten second jingle. Kill yourself you Finnish jew.

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>>56941629
Based ruffian

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>>56934192
Nobody, NOBODY deserves to get paid for a 10sec jingle
Even I can make that shit, hell I'll even probably participate just for the giggles. They could probably make it themselves, or ask a manager to find them something and they'd get it in 5min. It's very nice of them to try and make their fanbase participate and leave a little touch on their streams.

BAU BAU BASED DOGS

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>>56943583
i do it for a living and i don't want to participate
>1. i'm having trouble getting any work done
>2. i don't wanna come up with something awful
so yea basically im in a rut but i love the dogs. BAU BAU niggers

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>>56941629
It looks cute. This is a nice change of pace from the digital tablet style all internet artist use

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>>56935084
Nta but the difference is you’re not actually using the outfit. I don’t care what the argument is or the situation just proving you wrong people can do whatever they want

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>>56943904
>using the outfit
Do you think a fanart of a outfit is the same as an actual outfit?
Lol
Lmao even

An actual outfit takes tens of hours to a professional to make you dumb shit

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Riddle me this, bau bau motherfuckers. Why does it have to be a competition? Why can’t they just showcase a new jingle every morning stream if it’s really about the community?

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>>56944204
Because 99% of them will be absolutely trash

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>>56944268
There’s loads of great outfit predictions. Why won’t it be the same for the jingles?

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>>56944204
i dont know i dont manage their streams and content. do you think i would do that foe free

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>>56934192
>saw some juicy drama
>post it on the catalog
I respect the hustle, (you) farmer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>56944204
Because 1 of them will 100% be DMCAble. Or it's crazy bus.

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>>56944204
Where did it said it's a competition, retarded chama?

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>>56944204
Because why not you stupid bastard?

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>>56940760
words fail to describe just how utterly shit this take is
go back to /#/

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>>56941629
You are telling me you created this piece of art for free? Because you enjoy drawing? Because you enjoy the doggos? Nah that can't be right - how much does Fuwamoco owe you?

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>>56944204
What competition?

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>>56934192
>this nigger again
bau bau

[Anonymous No.]

>>56934192
twitter rot brain
BAU BAU

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>>56934192
They need to hustle harder. Where is the thumbnail contest? The animation contest?

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>>56941629
this is not professional enough to be entered into any contest. baubros has standards.

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>>56934843

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>>56934192
>>56935758

I can make a jingle just by fucking around with a soundboard and getting lucky. Fuck, I've been doing jingles since elementary and I can barely play a guitar.

But I guess I'm Hans Zimmer and Elton John's test tube baby now, according to these fags.

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>>56947895
What contest?

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>>56934192
>>56934843
>>56935758
>>56938353

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>>56934192
You killed a general for this, go kys

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>>56934192
If it was meant as a serious commission it would have taken the form of how Kiara or Ame put out a RFI for clippers/animators as they have in the past. Kanauru and others started out just doing fanart before picking up actual money for what they do. Yes your righteous capitalist heart has a right to be offended at anyone working for free and by extension devaluing your work, but picking a fan contest to get mad about is incredibly petty and pedantic

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>>56934192
They haven't even gotten their first paycheck and probably poured there life savings + went into debt for all the vtubing assets they commissioned. You could ask this in a year and it would make sense but right now you could be flat broke and probably have more money than both these girls.

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>>56934315
FPBP
>>56934192
Neither. Kill yourself

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>>56934192
It's called being financially efficient

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>>56934192
>top earners of their gen
Are they though? Remember, you have to split their earnings in half since there's two of them. Same with their sub/follow count.

[Anonymous No.]

>>56934192
Cross-eyed Fingoloid tranny fingers typed this post.

[Anonymous No.]

Why does this guy keep posting threads

[Anonymous No.]

>>56934315
fpwp get a job, loser

[Anonymous No.]

Their fans are turning on them as well for the dumb "let me waste 2 hours of your life pretending to be scared of a game" kayfabe
I predict they will be the runt of their gen before the end of the year since the other advent girls aren't pulling this retarded gimmick

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>>56934315
cope and seethe, talentless nigger

[Anonymous No.]

>>56934315
FPBP
Writers, Art and Musicfags literally on suicide watch

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>>56956831
how does it feel knowing your talent is getting entirely replaced by machines in less than 5 years?

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>>56934315
FPBP

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>>56934881
Sorry for your failed art career.

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>>56934315
FPBP, as always.

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>>56934192
Nobody is forcing you to make anything faggot

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>>56941629
NOOO YOU CAN'T GIVE THEM ART FOR FREE BECAUSE YOU ENJOY IT

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>>56956947
actual artists who can correct things on the fly, know composition and color theory will blow any prompter out of the water if they integrate AI into their workflow.
when we get to the point where no human touch is required, then it'll be over for way more people than just artists.

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>>56946530
Its not a take, its how it is. Cover could have had two accounts that generated twice as much. The joint account was a big gamble and so far, objectively, its not paying up for them.
That is of course, from a purely financial view. They got a big goodwill from "saving" the twins and Fuwamoco is top tier as streamer.

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>>56946530
He can't go back to /#/ because they have bullied him out of the thread

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>>56934881
Simmer down Adolf, postcards will have a comeback once they are deemed retro