/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

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KWAB

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People almost forget this shit, the homo graduations were a real godsend to deadbeats

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>>56895625
You know you could just unfollow cali and make that screenshot look like she unfollowed him. I'm not going to follow her just to see if it's true or not.

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>>56895625
Literally who?

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>>56896357
COPE
>COPE
COPE
>COPE
COPE
>COPE
COPE
>COPE

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>>56896357
>Your honor this evidence is fake!
>No your I will NOT be proving that it's fake but just humoring that it *could* be faked!
Weird cope desu

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>>56896357
>cali

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>>56896357
Ok Joshua, calm down
It's just Twitter follow

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>>56895625
Not a surprise at all, Mori either sides with a literal who hired gun trying to start shit with Fuwamoco or just leaves him be to stew over a forced drama. I think Mori has at least learned by now that having talked to someone like once doesn't make them a one piece nakama blood brother forever and it is fine to change your mind about people of their true colors are not so pretty after all.

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>>56896357
just confirmed, mori is not following him anymore

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>>56895625
Fake btw. She did not unfollow

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>>56895625
It's hilarious, he burned bridges over a <10 second jingle competition, what a massive retard

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>>56897096
Same. I never saw for sure that Mori was following him in the first place, though. A-chan still is, but I doubt she knows about any of this.

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>>56897090
What did this faggot try to start with my wives?

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>>56895625
Hasn't anyone realized it by now? Mori doesn't take kindly of shit talking anyone HoloEN. This happened during the NijiEN discord leak too.

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>>56895625
Just confirmed, Mori is no longer following either him or the dogs.

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>>56897263

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>>56897293
inb4 someone seethes about Connor.

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>>56897423
??????????????????????????????????????? what a fucking retard I hope A.I advances to the point he's a fucking broke boy living on the streets, fucking faggot.

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>>56897143
Seems like most musician an artist are like that. That guy who was doxxing the girl in his private discord and the Tejina mangaka having to delete their NTR commission because of twitter outrage.

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>>56897423
????? The new X logo was grabbed from some random retard he saw in his collection of replyguys.

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>>56897423
lmao what a faggot retard

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>>56895625
LMAO shit like this will never be not funny

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>even Turbo told his countryman to fuck off
lol. lmao even.

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>>56897423
>FuwaMoco? Yeah well Elon, amirite?
Holy cope

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damn wtf how is Mori getting so based

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>>56897671
>Comparing Fuwamoco to Elon Musk as if it's a good thing
Grim

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>>56897423
It's kinda fucked up comparing a multi-billionaire to 2 girls who probably haven't even received their first paycheck from cover yet

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>>56896357
Just checked on mine too and not following him anymore. She unfollowed him.

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>>56897143
it's going to take him YEARS to realize how badly he just fucked himself and how many people and companies wont work wit him after this

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>>56897423
Elon Musk would absolutely go “well I can’t pay you but think of the exposure for doing a jingle for Elon Musk!”

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>>56898428
Her experience with Trash Taste guys gave her a rude wakeup

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>>56897423
I hope the twitter ass pats were worth being blacked listed by a bunch of companies.

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>>56898663
I disagree, he will never realize it and instead double, triple, and quadruple down until he's full anti JP and pro CN

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>>56895625
This guy's a cunt with the sellout mentality stapled to his face.

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I don't think he did anything wrong, vtubers get so much art for free

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>>56898735
? She isn't cool with them anymore?

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>>56895625
GET FUCKED. NOW DEADBEATS SHOULD FUCKING CALL HIM OUT FOR USING MORI IN TWITTER BIO.

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>>56897423
It's hilarious how hard he keeps doubling down, for no reason
He started this, for no reason
Even some people who were on his side initially are like "dude what the fuck are you doing"

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>>56895625
I hope whoever this is, doesn't browse this site

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>>56899060
People were already calling him out for leaching with other people's names in his bio despite not knowing anything about them.

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>>56898568
It's funny how people don't realize Hologirls even find a way to help those that give them free shit. A lot of those who did fan-anime clips gets hired by Hologirls for music MVs.

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>>56899014
She is, but what the average shitposting catalogfarer doesn't realize is that they were never that close to begin. She's just friends with one of their wives. The others are acquaintances and she's more-or-less said as much

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>>56897423
I can't wait for AI to become advanced enough to put losers like this on the fucking street begging. Fuck this retard.

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Why are artists always such faggots?

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>>56897423
>let's do something cool with our fans and that is simple enough that anyone with and without music training can participate.
>NO YOU ARE BAD FOR IT YOU NEED TO PAY SOME RETARD FOR IT, AND FUCK YOU FOR INVOLVING YOUR FANS.YOU ARE ELON MUSK.
What a fucking retard.

I want to know how does he feel about the remix competition mori did around her debut time.

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>>56897423
I hope AI replaces this idiot.

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>>56899540
The top reason people are rooting for AI to replace these idiots is that they're insuferrable AF. You'd pay a human you like for their time but these self-centered assholes have to go, not a single tear shed for them.

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I wish fuamoco could just be professionals like mori

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>>56895625
Who the fuck is this and why should I care?

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>>56896804
That’s some Phoenix Wright’s out of the box thinking

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>>56897423
BASED AS FUCK

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>>56897423
What an absolute retard

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>>56899594
He conveniently glossed over that info and said "WELL, THIS ISN'T ABOUT MORI!"

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>>56899594
he wasn't aware of it and refuses to acknowledge when people point out how much it helped certain creators like ririsya or patterns

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>>56899084
Finnish people are notoriously retarded due to inbreeding.
I see nothing very unusual about this fag in particular.

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>>56899540
Most failed artists are bitter assholes. Some of the successful ones are based like Kay Yu

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>>56897535
how does that affect you in any way?

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>>56899014
She realized they just used her to get views and didn't want anything to do with her afterwards.

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>>56895625
How could someone say anything negative about those 2 fluffy fur balls? it pisses me off man, is it cute aggression or something?

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>>56899084
He's probably legit a functioning autist that's also an asshole

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>>56895625
mori is probably partly responsible from getting these girls in hololive, of course she would get mad if someone associated with her started shitting on the dogs.

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>>56895625
Always fun to see a mediocre artist of whatever type get burned, because it turns out acting like a belligerent birdapp brained faggot with a chip on your shoulder doesn't get you far in an actually professional environment.

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>>56895625
>>56897096
>>56897220
Something really must have happened behind the scenes. I still think maybe they were the ones leaking info to FalseEye.

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>>56900669
What info?

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>>56900067
at least make an effort to hide the fact that you're swedish next time, anon

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>>56900752
The info about me impregnating Mori

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>>56900900
He's justified

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>>56900172
Nobody tell him.

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>>56900134
NTA, but any retard shitting on my oshi's kouhai with that dumb take deserves to burn in hell.
(I'd have called him retarded even if he wasn't attacking FWMC / a Holo, though)

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>>56898155
Turbo is his countryman?

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>>56900752
https://streamable.com/kip2rk?src=player-page-share

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>>56901438
Nah that was a different guy
The extent of this guy's actions were just bad mouth FWMC in this tweeter post

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>>56897423
He's right, they don't have to beg, they could pay any of Cover's stable of composers to shit out a 10 second jingle with accompanying BGM repeating the leitmotif for that segment, there must be a very obvious reason why they didn't huh?

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>>56897315
Liar, Mori still follows the dogs.

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it is actually surprising that Mori unfollowed him. it takes a lot more effort to click the unfollow button than to just let him stew over a terrible take and leave him followed. Mori actually took the effort.

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>>56899458
Ame has even talked about doing her best to make people whole when she asks for something, but what the fuck does that matter when twitterfags don't even watch the girls, amirite?

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I posted the first snapshot of that tweet, around 40 minutes after be wroye do you think Mori saw it /here/? That would be something

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>>56901416
yeah, he has the opposite type of finnish autism. Too bad he's retarded too so we aren't getting a hololive eurobeat original.

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>>56902295
*Wrote

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>>56899540
They suffer from the mental illness known as entitlement.

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>>56902295
Nah, a dozen or so retards broke containment to yell him and @'d Mori a bunch of times and even baited him into @ing her as well, she probably woke up, checked her mentions and unfollowed him

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>>56902091
She never even forgave Fulgur after the "Council didn't do as well as expected" leak. In fact she actively followed everybody else in Niji at the time that she wasn't already (She wasn't following Obsydia for some reason) except him.

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>>56897423
Elon Musk isn't an entertainer with a community he interacts with, as much as he wishes he was.
You'd make a point if it were yagoo asking for the jingle.

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>>56901703
>bad mouth FWMC
Just in terms of potential blowback that is the fourth stupidest target in all of Holo (top spots being Kobo, Luna and Watame in no particular order).

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>>56902006
Maybe incorporating art from fans, like Bijou's pebbles
Seems pretty straightforward to me

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>>56902594
so deadbeats cancel and deplatform artist for standing up for artists rights zero tolerance style. thats really pathetic actually

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>>56902808
Damn, based deadbeats

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>>56899905
if you love bau bau then you should care

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>>56902808
stop making me like deadbeats

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>>56902763
>in no particular order
Watamates probably got that dude killed, anon

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>>56902808
Except that he's wrong in this point. Conflating a contest for your fans participation with an actual paying job is some of the worst mental gymnastics ive seen from this conversation.

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Joshua and Umru should collab

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>>56902808
>slanders company
>slanders her FRIENDS
>while using her name as justification
yeah no, there are better ways to do it without being a fucking retard

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>>56895625
Who?

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>>56902808
>deadbeats
Nigga the original thread had over 700 replies in under an hour, to blame that one specific fanbase would be baffling lmao

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>>56902802
that is actually the point. i feel like instead of giving superchats i could just give them content to use, it feels a bit more personal and just more thoughtful than to send just money.

but i wont do it because i wont work for free. (the real reason is i dont watch their streams enough to come up with a jingle that they might like)

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>>56903242
Its like saying that all of the viewers for vtubers should get paid, because there's a view botting as well as seat filling (for live events) industry. Don't want to put those seat fillers out of work by giving it away for free to the random masses.

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my favorite part of this is that he only did the bit for Mori's magical girl transformation, So I think he's just salty he didn't have a chance to get paid for a gig like it.

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>>56898846
not even twitter is defending this guy.

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>>56897423
Why artists are such menheras, the ones giving the jingle know this full well and will do it anyways because they want, not everything you do needs to be for money or exposure, just like a mangaka making a drawing to his nephew, he doesn't do that because he'll gain money or exposure, it's just because they want

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>>56903209
>some yakuza thug conducting a hit pro-bono because someone insulted his favorite cartoon sheep

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>>56903539
They got some chink anti conscripted iirc

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i hate so fucking much how the materialistic view of human nature with everything is labor mentality has taken hold in so many peoples mind, no faggot I am doing it for the enjoyment of the work itself and I don't need a payment for it my joy and desire to create is more than enough.

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>>56903625

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Literally who?

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>>56903540
Excuse me, that child is using nepotism to trick his overworked and underpaid uncle to draw him commissions for free when he should be buying them from artists on Twitter who draw his Uncle's IP on Patreon.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlXmQ6jNuzc Still a banger honestly.

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>>56902808
Nigga, Hololive is the last place you should complain about that, fans literally PAY them to use their art and they are firmly against AI work, Holo changed the lives of many artist and is probably one of their few allies in the whole internet.

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>>56899881
>a license fee
>for 10 seconds of humming
Fan participation bad.

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>>56903840
i really love this even over the original, kokorobeats is a bit boring, but i loved Nhato to begin with. this twitter moron shouldnt even be mentioned in the same breath as Nhato.


>>56903497
oh so he didnt get paid for that? what happened to not working for free?

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>>56899540
They earn so little for their craft that they turn paranoid about people "stealing" from them, even if it's just a 10 second jingle like in this case. The only way to escape that is actually be successful or knowing it will be hard to live of it and turn it into your side gigs, if you're a full time artist and unsuccessful there's a high chance you'd turn into an asshole that spergs about any "steal"

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>>56897423
>every single fan interaction must be a financial transaction
Fuck off. Maybe I like doogs and make silly noise for doogs without treating everything like a fucking job. Cretin. They're not asking for dozens of hours of free work you dumb fuck.

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>>56903209
Yeah but Kobo has ID Bros and Lunaitos would commit war crimes if she asked them to. This makes me think about a risk-like game based on chuuba power scaling based on fan menhera. We'll save the fujo version for an expansion because they're OP.

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>>56904130
i'm a full-time sound designer and i earn so very little because i never market myself or my work, but i sleep very soundly at night knowing i'm not this retard

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>>56897423
some huge weeb made holocure for free
yup some people like the fandom for a reason

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>>56898846
Apparently they are

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Mori redemption arc?
>Unfollows some dramafag she worked with
>Pays no mind to the Homos graduation
>Is responsible for the reaper Mario Party curse, resulting in some of the worst Holos graduating
>Released a pretty decent EP (compared to her trash 2022 output)
>Is getting close to the Advent girls like Rissa and Bijou
>Streamed over 70 hours in the past month

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>>56904187
i drew a fucking pebble for you, i deserve compensation!

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>>56904668 (me)
>>56898846
Fucked up the screenshot

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>>56899084
finnish, covid, inflation, russian war yeah he isn't the first nor the last one going mental.

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>>56904676
She's not as bad as she used to be but she's got a long way to go.

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>>56904771
She's so devious! Farming pebbles from day 1! My cute smart dumb rock daughter wife!

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>>56895625
it was such a shit take too
if anything we should be paying them for the privilege of having them listen to it

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>>56904856
now this is an actual L. how much is a 10 second jingle really worth to this guy

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>>56899594
He said he wasn't aware of it but he also conveniently ignores and/or blocks anyone who points out those who actually benefited immensely from providing Holo's with freebies.
Basically, he blocks anyone who proves him wrong and when he can't answer them.
I really do hope the block function gets removed so faggots like this retard can't hide behind it anymore.

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>>56900669
Someone @ed mori in the comments maybe she saw that

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>>56902033
Well, 2 out of these three dogs

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>>56905357
I got blocked too, but i dont care. he should really take whoever agrees with him to block himself out of my life permanently. i use xitter for cats, feet pictures and porn.

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>>56903476
Streamer: Guys don't forget to follow and retweet the stream!
Viewers: Oh okay where do we submit our account numbers, you know without us normally you need money to buy bots to do that right? We COULD follow you for free but it's the ethical thing to pay us

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>>56904856
I'd almost be willing to throw a dollar at him and demand my 5 second jingle before picking the one an actual fan did and shilling them hard instead. Cunt.

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>>56895625
who the fuck is this nigger?

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>>56902763
I mean there are also
>pekora
>gura
>suisei
>aqua
And many more

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>>56896796
>>56896804
what is wrong with you

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I hate faggots like this, like his message is fine but he picked such a fucking stupid hill to die on for it.

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>>56895625

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>>56902763
what happened with Luna??

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no i'm curious now, how much is he gonna charge for a 10 second jingle

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>>56895625
Wow 100, he just lost... 100 follower, he's so fucking done,is there anything else more interesting than this shit?

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>>56897096
>>56898643
Does it really surprise anons?
Despite what people may think, Mori absolutely cannot stand that kind of shit and you better believe she will never give that retard the time of day ever again.
Moron shot himself in the foot.

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>>56906035
one week worth of manhour

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>>56905826
If anything, that remix competition mori did is more "exploitive" than a 10-second jingle.

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Look at this lazy eyes mother fucker. LMAO.

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>>56906225
what. that shit takes 2 hours TOPS.

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>>56895625
why are we making threads about literal who's

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>>56895625
>Mori is so fat that when she unfollows it counts as losing 1k
S-Sugoi...

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>>56906347
that's for a rational composer

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>>56906430
That's /vt/'s bnb

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>>56906173
>Does it really surprise anons?
No, she's done this before. I just decided to check myself since that guy refused to believe it and he needed to know he was wrong.

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you now remember Holobass

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>>56906330
Hey look, the convention that he's going to is ALSO doing a for exposure content grab. SHAMLESSS

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>>56906330

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>>56902808
>zero tolerance
Fans told him in a respectful manner that they understand his perspective but he was targeting the wrong people (thing that he should know since he worked with hololive) and yet that buffon decided to doubledown, he dig his own grave.

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>>56906488
>That's /vt/'s bnb
someday you guys will make threads about ME. hopefully positive ones (:

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>>56906149
>100 followers
and at least one of his biggest clients was among them

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>>56905236
He is a Brian Eno fan.

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>>56897423
I could get this if he was talking about an S-lister celebrity or some shit, but they're fucking vtubers, a niche within a niche of a niche inside of a niche. How much money do you think they actually have?
I think if the person is making less than 1-5 million annually asking for shit from fandoms is fine.

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>>56906742
they paid the fans good green stuff

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>>56906035
that's what I was trying to figure out. its like a 100 dollar job if that much

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>>56906726
it took him a long while but at least he did eventually apologize for it

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>>56906742
anyone not get blocked for pointing this out?

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>>56906874
$100 can feed hungry subsaharan children for month

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>>56907038
a what?

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>>56906874
absolutely not. I wouldn't charge more than $20 for something so low effort. now if we're talking branding and synergy with the BGM and a more complete package to go with the channel or whatever, sure, $100. but come on. how much production value goes into a 10 second jingle really

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>>56895625
Why are people surprised about this when Mori is widely known to hate it when people attack her peers in Hololive just like this guy did?

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>>56906726
>You know remember Mizuryu Kei having a pubic meltdown because he wanted more money than he originally agreed to after learning how popular Hololive was

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>>56905761
As always one of mori's friends. She can't help but bring these people into vtubing and hololive.

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>>56907165
because this tweet was used to attack Mori at the beginning

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>>56906726
Was that the pops on rocks guy?

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>>56897423
based as hell, actually. don't worry corporate apologists, the jap laws are in your favor on this one, you have nothing to worry about with kings like this speaking the truth.

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>>56907133
>how much production value goes into a 10 second jingle really
about as much as a company logo. You can absolutely whip up something in 15 minutes for $20, or spend more time for a better thought out or more memorable work. $100 for a professional piece seems very fair to me.

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>>56907346
Rightly so.

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>>56907408
That and the ground pound song as well

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>>56907296
Qrd? I used to like this guy's doujins but he got a little crazy with the anatomy and the faces.

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>>56907408
yes, ame sang it during her animal shelter charity stream.

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>>56900067
Oh yeah I remember Seafoam sperging out about some shit related to Mori but it turned out to be a positive change after all

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>>56906330
Jesas no wonder he's so fucking desperate for attention kek.
>>56906742
>he's also a hypocrite on top of everything else
Not surprising at all really.

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>>56907310
>As always one of mori's friends.
She hired him to make a 15 second guitar riff like 6 months ago
This is like saying the guy who delivered my Uber Eats is my friend, or the johns who pay your whore of a mother 10 bucks for a blowjob are her BFFs lol

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>>56907526
Right after Fes3 when holo was popping off big for the first time. He was contracted to write the holo alt manga. He agreed, saw how crazy the pop off was and wanted perpetuity rights on his manga incase it got turned into an anime or something. Basically, signed a deal and wanted more after he signed.

Unlike what most normal people do and try to talk behind the scenes about it, he went public with how big corpo was screwing him. No one took the bait.

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>>56907766
I like the rrat that he wasn't allowed to fug marine better

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>>56907766
don't forget about how the chinks took this opportunity to use him and his channel as a figurehead for anti-hololive sentiments, until they found out he was a nanking denier and also abandoned him

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>>56902732
Mori actually unfollowed everyone in the screen grab if I recall right, but refollowed everyone but Fulgur after the fact. Amusing stuff.

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>>56907444
i make $25 scoring 30 second animated shorts for Tiktok that can be done in like 2 hours tops. this guy is seriously overestimating what he can do with 10 seconds of a jingle, does anyone even really care about Mori's magical girl transformation jingle?

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>>56907126
Subsa Haran

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>>56907945
I'd be surprised if she still follows Pomu after the cuckening...

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Damn, I used to like this guy. But no one messes with my FWMC.

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>>56907296
I don't like how plastic his art looks, it's not at all erotic.

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>>56907762
>food analogy
>he follows the guy who sent him uber eats on twitter
You want to walk that back or admit to being a fatass?

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>>56908104
thnx

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>>56908059
Jingles and other small form stuff really is worth as much as someone will pay for them. And AI really do be coming for those jobs.

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>>56908059
My mom only does GFE so she doesn't really have time for friends who aren't also clients.

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>>56908184
why? i followed and subbed out of professional respect but never got around to really watching his content. and i sure as hell didn't care one lick about his "album releases"

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>>56895625
>lost followers too
RORU RUMAO

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>>56907526
>3rd HoloFES
>HoloALT gets announced as a mutli-media project
>Marine put in a good word for Mizuryu, helps get him hired to be the official Mangaka for HoloALT
>Trailer drops on YT
>Hits 1 million views in less than a few hours
>Suddenly Mizuryu starts having a sperg out twitter
>Denounces Hololive and swears he will never draw another piece of Holo art ever again
>This goes until his agent/manager takes over the twitter account
>Agent explains that Mizuryu didn't realize how popular Hololive actually was until he saw the view count trailer, tried to renegotiate his deal for more money
>His Agent and Cover refused, leading to his twitter sperg out
>Account went private for a bit, deleted all the sperg out tweets
>Quits the project HoloALT get delayed for a bit while they had to find a new artist

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>>56908494
of course he would lose followers, he blocked them (me) when he couldn't really say anything anymore that made sense

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>>56908290
You wanna admit to your mom being a cheap whore?

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>more talent poured on mori
>she still wont go main stream

Imagine if this much money was put on someone with talent

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>>56895625
cringe

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>he thinks that doing stuff for passion needs to be paid
GTFO

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>>56908549
Weird to think if he had just played his cards right Mizuryu could've been lead art director for the project and ogle Marine irl

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>>56906330

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>>56907408
That was holobass

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>>56907586
Seafoam still exists? I remember when I mocked him for making the vshojo chibis almost shockingly similar to the ones for hololive.

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>>56908774
i have firsthand experience that in certain circumstances, getting paid for your passion actually makes you lose it

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>>56908635
So you follow your uber eats driver on social media then?

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>>56908760
Fuck you amerimutt

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>>56908327
Fanartists and musicians get exposure off of hololive and hololive benefits off the talent they provide. It's an ecosystem, and an ecosystem that doesn't require someone from outside of said ecosystem coming in telling everyone how things SHOULD be.
One of the better performing Akio Air talents, Athena Nightingale first popped off because she did a Halloween song for Haachama Sunday.
SuperAppleman got commissioned by Mumei after doing alot of fanart and animations for her.
Maerie probably became one of the most in demand western emote artists because if drawing Fauna's emotes.

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>>56896796
He does make a good point. The least you can do is respect the thinking.

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>>56907460
obsessed

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>>56908598
he's blocked a few dozen that didn't agree with him kek
including me ! but I did call him a fag whose mother must have used when he was in the womb so..

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>>56909154
The retard in OP was raised on DA and didn't understand the 'for exposure' memes were directed at nobodies with no reach.

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>deadbeats when Umru tries to cancel Mori
>:(
>deadbeats when Mori cancels Joshua
>:)

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>>56909404
Try again next thread, anon
Third time's the charm

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>>56908828
Dude valued the short term gain too much to look at the bigger picture
He prolly could've easily negotiated a better deal a latter date but decided to piss it all away like a jackass

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>>56909404
Unfollowing someone is a a pretty broad definition of cancelling and I hate mori.

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>>56895625
Seeing people doing things purely on passion without monetary gain or exposure must have broke his brain that only works in commissions after commissions, people like that lost their passion a long time ago and only still work with that because it's the only thing they know how to do

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>>56909404
>she unfollowed a retard, I can't believe Mori would do such a thing! muh cancellerinos!

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I know that difference is going to be lost on shills idiots and apologists, but.

There's a difference between boosting fanwork
AND
Making a contest bullshit to get free assets.

Anyone with some familiarity in creative circles should see the word "contest" coming from some company, and have red alarm bells blaring. It's like offering exposure in lieu of actual pay.

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>NOOOOO how dare he criticize talents from a multi-million dollar company getting their mans to produce art for them for fucking FREE
>BAU BAU grrrrrr BAU BAU
>*licks boot*
>BAU BAU BAU BAU

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BAU BAU?
BAU BAU!!

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>>56909734
it's 10 seconds bro, i can press record on my phone and set up a few glasses on my table and tinkle them with a pencil, boom there's your jingle

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>>56909404
like the good bitch she is

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>>56909404
You determination to drag Mori/deadbeats into this and frame them in a bad light is honestly hilarious
You're like a few post away from just outright defending him if you think there's a less than 0% chance to make Mori look the bad guy for doing something extremely reasonable

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>>56909877
Why don't you, then?

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>>56908464
Oh I mean like in the very loosest sense. I came across him scrolling through Twitter and he had some interesting discussion about anime music that I liked. Thought he was chill.

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>>56909875
bau bau my niggas

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>>56902763
You forgot Reine on your list

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>>56909734
>>56909855
We get it, 2view shitters, nobody would do things out of passion and love for you, no need to seethe and cope about it.

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>>56909953
Stealing the idea and submitting one myself

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>>56897423
And this is why we don't have more Holo girls from EU.

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They aren't asking for people to compose them a RIP
They're asking people to submit a Fauna Sweep

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>>56906742
I'm not seeing anything about all the people submitting their work being paid there. Going to be really interesting how he's going to explain that one away considering the tirade he just went on unless he just blocks everyone pointing this out.

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>>56909734
The problem with those contests are the company keeping and using what you put into the contest and not give credits, mentions, monetary gain or anything, do you think hololive that has tons of fans who will do that for free will do such a dumb mistake?

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>>56909855
You can just not make a jingle?

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>>56909953
i don't want to, because some other people will have already gotten the same idea. 10 seconds of a jingle isn't rocket science, and it isn't even that much music theory either.

what is it, you gonna call the string orchestra together to make your windows shutdown sound effect and then thats it pack it up

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>>56907429
Stop posting here already Joshua.

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>>56895625
WHY MORI UNFOLLOW ME REEEEEEEE

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>>56897423
Based that Mori actually unfollowed him over this. I bet he's actually unironically seething over it too lmao

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Joshua consider taking this

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im blocked and cant see any updates on his page, did he drop this topic already or is he still going?

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>>56897423
I kind of agree with this guy. I think there is a difference when it comes to fanwork that is showcased in a single stream as opposed to an asset that is used for every stream, possibly multiple times a stream.

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Holofags do drawings, novels, songs(like Fauna and Marine ones), even fucking games, but this guy draw the line in a 10 second jingle

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>>56910052
With how hard people would go to bat for them thoughtlessly, they could pull it off yeah. It'd just add one line on the final copypasta for people turning on them for one reason or another.

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A question here. Who will own the right to the work? Is it the original artist? FWMC? Cover? Is Fwmc allowed to use it later on for anything including monetized content?

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>>56895625
HOLY KEK

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>>56909957
me too, but I never actually got around to reading or watching anything he put out. it just struck me as trying to carve out a niche that ended up not being interesting at all in the way he in particular presented it. if i wanted to learn about FF music i would look up interviews and BTS videos of Uematsu and that newer Takehiro guy, not some literal rando making video essays for clickbait

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>>56910323
BAU BAU BAU :)
The answer is... BAU BAU
Because that's all you need to know!
BAU BAU BAU BAU BAU BAU!
:)

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>>56897423
>fuwamoco want a 10 second fan jingle
>their fans are willing to give them 10 second fan jingle for no money simply because they love the girls
This is literally like that "I consent" meme

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>>56910207
See >>56904856
Yeah he's seething alright and masking it poorly.