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5664358 No.5664358 [Reply] [Original]

Was it worth it?

>> No.5664430

>>5664358
Yep. I'm so glad the Chink branch was gone. Coco is a martyr

>> No.5664442

yes

>> No.5664447

was what worth it?
telling antis to fuck off?

>> No.5664502

>>5664447
In a way, yes. You have to admit, she handled the whole situation poorly.

>> No.5664691

>>5664447
>>5664502
That's probably also the reason why her fans adore her so much.

>> No.5664718

Now that the Chad Zhang has gotten this obstacle out of the way, what's the next victory for him?

>> No.5664758

>Coco fucks off
>Chinks still harassing talent
This aged poorly.

>> No.5664789

>>5664358
>chatted shit get banged
I kneel Zhang-sama

>> No.5664811

>>5664502
between all the sides involved, she's the one who handled it best.

>> No.5664883

Another retarded bait thread that has been repeated a fuckton of times. Anyone who replies after me is a faggot, and should neck themselves.

>> No.5665014

>>5664811
Yeah. She handled it so well that she decided to graduate on her own will.

>> No.5665077

>>5664502
>You have to admit, she handled the whole situation poorly.
Never give China an inch. What's wrong with you?

>> No.5665171

>>5664502
True. She should've had a Tiananmen Square Massacre docu watch-along.

>> No.5665280

>>5665014
She handle as best as 1 woman can do anon... but Cover not....

>> No.5665333
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5665333

Seethe zhangs

>> No.5665354

It would have been if Cover had her back. Instead, they isolated her and bound her

>> No.5665430

Personally, I value the entertainment of Kiryu Coco over the lives of 2 billion Chinese people.

>> No.5665535
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5665535

>>5665014
here's your (You), and your meds Zhang.

>> No.5665552

>>5665354
I think put anti to mod her chat is last final straw.

She is protecting OUR smile by protectong her smile.

>> No.5665635

>>5664358
Fuck yeah, in fact this wasn't enough. She should have shown the absolute dominance of Japan in Nanking. Glasshearted faggots don't deserve to live.

>> No.5666269

>>5665354
This. Cover has no idea how badly they fucked themselves.

>> No.5666363

>>5665333
why? they won. you lost.

>> No.5666425

>>5665635
Nanjing was the Guomindang capital...

>> No.5666447

>>5666363
How is it a loss when cover will be drowning in Chinese money again?

>> No.5666940

>>5664502
How? By coming back the spitting image of confidence, only to get harassed by her own management, and then making the brave and correct decision to just go ahead and graduate? What are you saying she should have done differently after she came back from her suspension?

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5667368

>>5664358
it was not nearly enough

>> No.5667388

>>5666940
Quite literally anything else including doing nothing at all

>> No.5667461

Why is Coco so weak? It was just a little spam

>> No.5667465

>>5667388
Great literal non-answer anon. I’ll take it you concede the argument then

>> No.5667525

>>5667465
Tell how adding fuel to a fire is the right thing to do

>> No.5667588

Cover shills >>5666447 aren't even waiting for Coco to graduate to already call her a liability.

>> No.5667643

>>5667461
the spam was defeated the day she gave spanners to her fans, but management harassment dealt real damage

>> No.5667647
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5667647

>>5666940
>making the brave and correct decision to just go ahead and graduate

>> No.5667654

>>5667525
Coco had and continues to have a right to stand up for herself. I understand that this is not a concept you guys have in chink societies, but that’s why your schools have extreme bullying issues and your young constantly end up killing themselves.

>> No.5667663

Every Coco thread is just Zhangs falseflagging as Tatsunokos and Tatsunokos falseflagging as Zhangs, prove me wrong.

>> No.5667704

>>5666363
>you
It's a falseflagger, hence the ugly frog posting.

>> No.5667709

>>5664883
I may be a gay buttsex enjoyer but I don’t see why that means I need to kill myself

>> No.5667735

>>5667654
>I understand that this is not a concept you guys have in chink societies
And jap societies, and asian societies in general, who are you kidding. Coco is living in a jap society streaming for japs, what she did could only attract negative attention from the autists

>> No.5667740

>>5664502
I think HoloCN hnadled it the worst. Both they and Coco were done dirty but those wumao cunts(excluding Yogiri) went full ultranationalist on Cover and Coco.

>> No.5667770

>tell them to fuck off and never come back
>break down crying numerous times.
She handled it poorly and clearly not mentally strong as she thought she was.

>> No.5667788

>>5667735
Coco was the nail that stuck out from the board ever since she joined Hololive. She's an American at heart, so the chinks at Cover had it out for here since Day 1.

>> No.5667832

>>5664502
Nah. China can get fucked. You don't fuck with people and expect people not to bite back.

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>>5667740
Sad part is that nobody was done dirty business-wise. Cocock quit on her own rules and CN bitches even get new models. And we all know that all female chinks except Yogurt should've been sued for harassment and ripped apart as talents. Of course I know why cover didn't do it the way I'd like it.

>> No.5668036

>>5667832
By that same logic everything Zhang did was entirely justified.

>> No.5668163

>>5667735
Interesting that you don’t even deny that asian societies lack a proper concept of “the right to stand up for yourself.”
That’s exactly why Coco is extremely based though. Unlike how most asians are taught, she actually has a sense of individual value. Consequently, she knows it’s her moral right to stand up for herself in spite of the flawed expectations of those around her.
If you guys could learn to teach your children the concept of having self-worth, maybe your society wouldn’t crush the souls of all your children

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>>5665430
Based beyond belief.

>> No.5668219

>>5668163
> China
> self - worth

Select one

>> No.5668459

>>5668163
Kiryu Coco is what all Japanese schoolgirls should aspire to be.

>> No.5668491

>>5667770
Pretty much this, but most people here would rather see her break down and fall apart while cursing China than see her happy striving to do what she wants.

>> No.5668542

>>5664502
Nah, fuck China. They should be told to fuck off and not come back early and often.

>> No.5668568 [DELETED] 

>>5667663
>Implying either of them are tatsunokos and not dramagfags looking for stirring shit

>> No.5668627

>>5668163
Is doing something to make yourself feel good for a few mlinutes and being miserable for months afterwards worth it? Even if Cover had lived up to its name and protected her, that's still continuing a fight that wasn't her to do

>> No.5668802

>>5668163
>stand up for yourself
>break down a couple weeks later because of the harrassment from retaliating
If coco really wanted to stand up for herself maybe she should have been mentally stronger

>> No.5668835

>>5668459
A slob?

>> No.5669067

>>5668627
>Is doing something to make yourself feel good for a few mlinutes and being miserable for months afterwards worth it?
Genuine bugman logic. The most miserable thing of all is being unable to stand up for yourself. Especially if you go your whole life that way.
In reality, even in the China the successful people are those that instinctually know to stand up for themselves. The masses like you are just extremely housebroken. Nobody gets ahead in life by placidly accepting abuse.
Not to add it’s ridiculous to pretend you guys were going to leave her alone either way

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>>5668627
>feel good for a few mlinutes and being miserable for months afterwards
If this is what you think happened to Coco, you are already a bug.
It's like asking why Chinese people bothered to revolt against Japanese rule for a few moments of glory, when they would only get tortured and brutalized for months afterwards. Was it worth it? Trying to fight against unreasonable oppression? Ask them and every colonized country on Earth. It's because giving up certain things can make people feel less than human. A bug. This sentiment is echoed throughout history, in every era and every country that knows oppression.

Coco stood up for herself then. And now she is simply doing the same thing, just on a more amicable level. She is doing the hard things, not to feel miserable, but to feel like a human being. And while the things she wants to do with her freedoms are trivial in the grand scheme of history, the sentiments behind her actions are universal.

>> No.5669404

>>5669067
>>5669246
I'm European, not Chinese. Coco is a streamer, not a businessman that can be cutthroat to get to better positions. Not only that, but she's an idol in Japan, where people judge others online extremely harshly and consider you guilty as soon as you run into problems, because if you weren't to blame, surely you would have known to avoid situations that would cause you issues, right? This is obviously a fucked up mindset, but she can't change the world, no matter how popular she gets and she definitely will not win a political war that's existed before she was ever born. Coco would have been hurt no matter what, but she didn't understand the situation she was in when she made that statement.
Rage all you want about what happened being unfair to her, but Hololive is big enough that it's known in various communities besides the vtubing one, which includes the political ones. The best thing that can happen to Hololive now is to become less popular so they can avoid the eyes of these people

>> No.5669419

>bugmen want coco to graduate
>coco graduates
>"tatsunoko" suddenly start thinking this is good for her
Not fooling me zhangs

>> No.5669483

>>5669067
When exactly did Coco stand up for herself? She said fuck you to the Chinese once, which only intensified the harassment and had no positive effect besides perhaps a fleeting sense of gratification for her. Immediately after that she took an unwavering stance of "I never meant any harm," spent months laying low doing her best to ignore the harassment, obeying management restrictions and slowly breaking apart mentally until she gave up for good.

>> No.5669550

>>5669483
In the minds of /pol/fags where coco is a proud strong american with an intense hatred of chinks instead of just another normal japanese woman

>> No.5669583

>>5664502
Truth, but these retardedniggers cannot use 2 braincells and wont even agree with you

>> No.5669729

>>5669483
I totally agree with you, sir

>> No.5669739

>>5669404
>Coco is a streamer, not a businessman that can be cutthroat to get to better positions.
You’re delusional to not think Coco is accomplishing a material improvement in the quality of her life with her graduation. She made more money than any of us will see at one time in our lives in Hololive , acquired fame and a dedicated fanbase, and will be moving on to self-directed and much more pleasant work. If you want to think of it like a businessman, it’s like she made a fortune working at an insurance company where she doesn’t like the boss, and is now quitting to start her own business with a large amount of money and a dedicated client base. She is obviously improving her position in life.

>> No.5669763

>>5669246
I totally agree with you sir

>> No.5669800

>>5669739
The difference is that the insurance company was something she actually loved and was personally invested in, and it clearly devastated her to have to leave it behind, even if she knew it was the best alternative.

>> No.5669801

>>5669739
Coco is Princess Carolyn from Bojack Horseman, based.

>> No.5669812

>>5669483
>intensified the harassment
Bull. Shit. The entire return stream was spammed beyond chat usability, saying that the following months of spam wouldn't have happened without the "Fuck You" end card is utterly fucking delusional. You're trying to apply cause and effect to the middle stages of a targeted attack.

>> No.5669817

>>5665535
what the actual fuck is that handwriting

>> No.5669826

>>5669739
And that won't be Coco doing it, she dies in 5 days

>> No.5669842

>>5669817
yeah, what the fuck, it's too legible

>> No.5669881

>>5669842
yeah for a first grader. jesus christ work on your penmanship you manchild

>> No.5669931

>>5669881
That image has been floating around for a long time you newfag.

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>>5669881
Damn, I had heard americans couldn't afford to go to the doctor, but I didn't know it was this bad. Check what their actual penmanship looks like.

>> No.5670056

>>5669800
That’s life though. That’s exactly why Coco is strong. Because she knows to make the best decision for her own happiness even when it’s painful. Everyone should be a little more like Coco

>> No.5670072

>>5669739
>and will be moving on to self-directed and much more pleasant work.
I swear if her roommate does the exact same shit she has always been doing I will laugh at tatsunoko forever

>> No.5670128

>>5664502
Based beyond belief, amerimutts can't comprehend that you should shut the fuck up and apologize even if you did nothing wrong. Coco definitely handled it the best between the five different parties involved (holoCN, cover, Chinese fans, English fans, and her) but she for sure could have handled it better by not letting her united statesian brain kick in and show some humility to appease those dogs.

>> No.5670199

>>5664358
Why did coco give up?
She should had either
>Graduate at the start
or
>Never give up
Just quitting half way seems pointless, and the worst choice.

Also, from what i read in china's forum, they are losing spirit after youtube update the auto-ban systems and got rid of the spammers in chat.
Just a little more and everything could have die down.
Too bad coco give up at this bad timing to help boost the morale of china antis.
Enjoy another member getting harassed to the point they have to graduate.

>> No.5670322

>>5669800
It's not like she's technically leaving it all behind, she's still living with Kanata IIRC and there's probably not much stopping her from poking in her stream from time to time. I'd be pissed though if those bugs start to harass her though in place of Coco.

>> No.5670387

>>5670128
The amazing thing about /vt/ is the line between this type of post being bait or genuine retardation is razor thin

>> No.5670468

>>5670322
t. retard

>Other members get harass, forcing coco having to graduate to protect other members
>somehow retards think she will show herself in kanata's stream, effectively wasting her efforts to protect the members, and allow the bugs to focus their hatred towards kanata
I get it, you guys are a special kind of retard to SIMP for women that won't even know your existence, ever.
But, come the fuck on.

>> No.5670569

>>5670468
Do you really think Chink not target Kanata already? Are you retard or something?

>> No.5670603

>>5670199
At this point i'm pretty sure she has creative differences - management wants to do idols, she wants to do VShojo JP

>> No.5670635

>>5670468
>I get it, you guys are a special kind of retard to SIMP for women that won't even know your existence, ever.
Remind me what board we’re on, anon?

>> No.5670659

>>5670468
This retard really think they will stop harass other members.

>> No.5670678

>>5670468
We'll never really know the real reason for Coco leaving though, the chinese spam is definitely a huge factor but it probably isn't the only reason. It could be Cover constantly shooting down her ideas and making her feel limited with what she can do, could be that they not so subtly pushed her out, we'll never know.
But what's stopping those spammers from stopping even if Coco leaves anyways? They won't operate on some kind of "muh honor" policy, they'll just do it for the fuck of it.

>> No.5670684

>>5670468
YOU are retard

>> No.5670785
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>>5669404
> This is obviously a fucked up mindset, but she can't change the world
So it's not just others, but you think of yourself as a bug who can change nothing. That is already false. There is a spectrum of influence and scale. Anyone changing themselves and influencing their friends is already adding to the flow of history, and big societal change like women's suffrage, all started from weak individuals, none of whom can audaciously claim to be able to change the world alone. It is simply the accumulation of influence that helps turn the wheels of history.

And Coco is more than alone. Her case was heard loud and clear, across an audience that spanned the globe, that helped awaken many otherwise apolitical fans to the inherent indefensible nature of the Chinese government. Coco is also part of a larger global trend where China's antics managed to antagonize every country surrounding it and beyond (https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2020/10/06/unfavorable-views-of-china-reach-historic-highs-in-many-countries/).). The world is already changing by the actions of countless people, and the growing anti-China sentiments have already led to political changes in different countries. So Coco is indeed speaking the zeitgeist by flipping the bird against bugs who won't stop harassing her anyway (and thus she had nothing to lose on that front), while galvanizing the supporters who simply like her more and shower her with more money and vocal support. Besides the purely material advantages, there is also the mental advantage, as she admitted in member stream that she is a willful individual.

>> No.5670815

>>5669483
>if an army attacked your country, why fight back? If you end up losing, you were better off just dying without a fight. Let China and Twitter mobs control you without resistance.

>> No.5670854

>>5670815
When in that post does it say it's better not to fight back? I only said Coco never did.

>> No.5670872

>>5669550
Fuck off bugman.

>> No.5670901

What I learned during the Coco vs. chink arc is that, with the exception of the occasional infiltrated zhang, there are two kinds of people in these discussions. People who are here to talk about Coco and people who are here to talk about China. The former tend to be reasonable, the latter tend to behave like mindless hate mobs.

>> No.5670956

>>5664358
was what worth it? was saying "if you don't like my streams watch someone else" worth it? that's basic logic and she shouldn't even need to say it, but this is the internet where people are stupid and need to be told.
>>5664502
handled what poorly, exactly?
>>5668459
only in terms of understanding when one has done nothing wrong.

>> No.5671018

>>5670785
>And Coco is more than alone. Her case was heard loud and clear.
Yes, you can see a big change in how people feel about Cover, whereas before people were more heavily defending everything Cover did. Public opinion is clearly changing. They are actually hurting their image over all this shit. Then some idiot comes in and tells everyone that resistance is futile, to just let them and China do whatever they want, and to submit to every Twitter mob. No thanks.

>> No.5671030

>>5670387
My bad let me join in on your reddit circle jerk.

>nuke china, coco is muh purfuct womon who did nothing wrong!1 tiamen square, hong kong, reddit meme review is muh favarite stream!1

This website isn't full of Amerimutts from the united states like reddit, we fucking hate your culture seu gringo fdp sem graça.

>> No.5671041

>>5670854
You view it wrongly. The harassment was always going to be there. What she did, however, was hugely popular with the Western and indeed global audience. Amplifying your supporters is the best shield you can have against your enemies. It is also a core part of her personality, and her personality is why she is the top superchat earner.

>> No.5671062

>>5670128
>amerimutts can't comprehend that you should shut the fuck up and apologize even if you did nothing wrong

This is the most subhuman insect brain mentality imaginable.

>> No.5671091

>>5664502
Never give these Commies a fucking inch.
Take from them, EVERYTHING.

>> No.5671095

This thread is so fucking stupid.

>> No.5671119

>>5665535
Fucking based.

>> No.5671156

>>5670785
Anon I hate to break it to you but coco doesn't hate chinese people, she just hates schizos, she even still wants to learn chinese. So this grand idea that coco is fighting against the CCP's reign is just a delusion

>> No.5671169

>>5671062
Here, I'll spoonfeed you https://archive.nyafuu.org/vt/thread/4850521/#4850521
>Yesterday in stream Pekora said "There comes a time when you have to apologize for a wrongdoing you did not do. That is part of becoming an adult." Was this what she meant?

>> No.5671186

>>5671062
He is essentially saying if you did nothing wrong, why not submit to China and the Twitter mob? Let them dictate to you what can and cannot be said and done.

>> No.5671213

>>5671041
>What she did, however, was hugely popular with the Western and indeed global audience
I'm really thankful for all those EOPs who came to defend her from chinese schizos on her zatsudans with 95% japanese chat, really helpful

>> No.5671221

Jesus Christ, it's hilarious how bugmen are on full damage control the closer the graduation day is coming, and how quickly you can spot them. You niggers must step up your game when it comes to false narratives, some of the posts here are copy pasted from NGA and other hives.
Back behind your firewall with you.

>> No.5671276

>>5671186
I guess guys like him think it's better to live on your knees than die on your feet.

>> No.5671282

>>5671169
>If I can find one person to agree with submitting to the will of those who complain loudest, then I am right.
That’s not how that works. You have to prove that submission to the will of those who complain loudest, is good for everyone.

>> No.5671361

>>5671156
>she just hates schizos
That's what she says in camera, but almost everyone thinks CCP is a cancer. A traditional China would be more acepted, they have a millennial culture, just happens they have a totalitarian government, just like a 21st Century URSS but with more money

>> No.5671379

>>5669881
>>5669817
To think that there are fags this new here

>> No.5671397

>>5666269
They'll know exactly how bad they fucked themselves when she shows the other talent she can be successful after leaving Hololive.

>> No.5671408

>>5671379
Well yeah, they're only here to stir up shit

>> No.5671513

>>5668835
A strong independent dragon who needs no YAGOO

>> No.5671521

>>5671156
>coco doesn't hate chinese people, she just hates schizos, she even still wants to learn chinese.
Did you just meme yourself into believing Westerners hate Chinese people instead of the actions of the Chinese mainland government? The US supports the Chinese people in Taiwan, for pete's sake. I too learn Chinese characters and like their classics. It sounds like you have been having a disgusting and shallow understanding of anti-China sentiments until today.

>> No.5671601

>>5671169
That's a part of being a coward, not an adult.

>> No.5671699

>>5671521
>Did you just meme yourself into believing Westerners hate Chinese people instead of the actions of the Chinese mainland government?
Anon we do browse the same board right? And the entire past year since the taiwan shit? And the fact that the goverment had nothing to do with schizos harrassing coco? You can't be writing this seriously

>> No.5671788

>>5664358
yes, yes it was

>> No.5671794

>>5670785
An actual well written post. I can't believe it's here on /vt/ of all places.

>> No.5671810

What exactly is bad about telling trolls and antis to fuck off?

>> No.5671820

>>5664358
Definitely, got us ride of traitors like Aria or Civia

>> No.5671906

>>5670199
Because when it happened she probably didnt have the money to comfortably leave, and the restrictions where not so severe she could tolerate them for a time.
Half or more of her total superchats are from after the incident, and that might be as much as 2/3rds by the time she actually graduates.

>> No.5671915

>>5665171
based

>> No.5671969

>>5664358
Yes

>> No.5672122

>>5668627
You can't seriously think that way, please tell me you're pretending. She would have been much more miserable after kissing their toes and basically sending the signal that they can decide w/e people can say and ask anything forever.

>> No.5672132

>>5664502
FUCK OFF ZHANG

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>> No.5672176

>>5669483
Nice try rewriting history, she was constantly spammed and harassed no matter what she did, before, during and after her return stream. All for literally reading Taiwan among a list of countries listed in her statistics. How can people even remotely justify that.

>> No.5672212

>>5671699

This board is not at all an accurate representation of all Westerners which we are talking about. The worsening reputation of mainland China is a recent and ongoing trend, so it is not due to (ancient) Chinese culture or their skin color. And by government, I obviously mean not just individuals employed by the government, but also all the supporters of the government. If you support their BS, you share the culpability. This is something every American understands: the general people, and the government supporters are treated differently. Because usually half of Americans voters shit on their own president. So when Coco is able to separate the Chinese government supporters from general Chinese culture, it's nothing to write home about.

>> No.5672228

>>5672122
>She would have been much more miserable after kissing their toes and basically sending the signal that they can decide w/e people can say and ask anything forever.
Yeah I can't even imagine that, imagine if you were restricted from saying omanko, I literally wouldn't be able to live without it, thankfully coco is destroying her chains and she can say omanko freely now

>> No.5672278

>>5672212
Nigger if you want to talk about politics go back to /pol/, if you want to shit on china at least discuss about what happened to coco or other vtubers

>> No.5672568

>>5672278
The whole thread is about what happened with Coco. Read, bug.

>> No.5672768

>>5672568
>post about the story about the CCP and the effects it has on the population
Including "btw coco is based" at the end of your posts doesn't make your post on topic

>> No.5673327

>>5669404
>didn't understand the situation she was in when she made that statement.
What statement? You know all this shit happened because YT analytics included Taiwan, right? Coco didn’t do anything to begin with, there was and is no reason for her to apologize.

>> No.5673388

>>5673327
>>5664358
There's not apologizing and then there's adding fuel to the fire

>> No.5673405

>>5670785
Women's sufferage objectively and demonstrably had a negative effect on society as a whole

>> No.5673517

>>5668627
>Is doing something to make yourself feel good for a few mlinutes and being miserable for months afterwards worth it
unironically yes
i know "Honor" is a foreign concept to soulless bugmen like you, but we in the West used to value it highly

>> No.5673897

>>5673388
This pretty much
She didn't have to apologize, could just explain the situation. Making it look like she did it on purpose just to annoy the chinks was never going to end well.

>> No.5673988

>>5673388
Adding a fuck you endcard is barely adding fuel to the fire considering the autistic hate spam that was already prevalent in her streams before this. Telling spammers to fuck off in an endcard shown at the tail end of a stream, which someone would have to watch in its entirety to get to, is not the same as if she were to do something actually fanning the flames like dedicating a good portion of her stream to saying Taiwan should be independent or specifically name dropping the Chinese when telling people to fuck off. What she did is more akin to a drop in a bucket.

>> No.5674156

>>5672122
>She would have been much more miserable after kissing their toes and basically sending the signal that they can decide w/e people can say and ask anything forever.
You mean what Cover is doing?

>> No.5674192

Well, she's going away soon so I dare say yes, it's worth it. Soon we'll be free of her presence.

>> No.5674216

For a women she handled this fairly well. Mentally she's pretty damn tough. Most would of quit in a week of all that spam and bullshit.

>> No.5674227

>>5665535
Based

>> No.5674244

>>5668163
>Stand up for yourself
>Run away crying a few months later
Ow my self worth

>> No.5674280

>>5673517
Apparently long-term thinking is a foreign concept to (You) too

>> No.5674294

>>5674192
Her presence and impact is inseparable from Hololive at this point.

>> No.5674326

>>5674294
Nope, it's going to be separated soon enough and I can't wait

>> No.5674340

>>5668188
i like this flag the most

>> No.5674350

>>5673517
Reading comprehension, I'm euro. Also, get off your prideful tower, dealing with attacks by deranged retards once again isn't Coco's fight, stop making her your symbol for your hatred against the CCP

>> No.5674458

Why do Coconigs need to do damage control for their oshi? What do they hope to accomplish? Jesus, she's graduating soon and there's nothing you can do about it. You can spend 24/7 crying about muh chinks and it won't change a damn thing. She's running away like a bitch, and everyone knows that. What's the point of pretending she's based or whatever when it's patently untrue?

>> No.5674540

>>5672176
Lmao reddit dragon can't take a little bantz. Cry some more

>> No.5674597

>>5664358
>fuck you and never come back
>Never come back
>Never
>Come back
Rumao rumao roru roru

>> No.5674653

>>5674280
>long-term
>vtubing
She’s not some high profile business executive needing to bend the knee for the sake of her company’s longevity. I get that vtubers make a lot of money but come on the stakes aren’t that fucking high my man.

>> No.5674718

>>5670128
sorry for fucking your wife

>> No.5675159

>>5671030
>the Cover-moderated Hololive subcirclejerk on Chinese-owned Reddit
>ever allowing criticism of China
Sorry Juan Dong, but the entire world hates China. Even China's allies hate China, except maybe Russia since China's the only one who'll trade "fairly" with them anymore (and even then, the Russians who actually have to deal with the Chinese and their scam product learn to fucking loathe China).

>> No.5675198

>>5674294
Her presence on hololive was basically reduced to basically nothing when asacoco ended, even more after the taiwan shit.

>> No.5675232

>>5671030
y tu cultura está llena de come-mierdas

>> No.5675254

>>5664502
true
yu have to think of the chinese like retarded animals, like a force of nature
she did everything wrong

>> No.5675356

>>5671169
That's being a jap bug mindfucked by their retarded culture.

>> No.5675370

>>5664358
Speak English, you fucking dirty Chink insect

>> No.5675526

>I don't care she's graduating, I'm glad she said fuck you to china
Where did real tatsunoko go?

>> No.5675550

>>5674326
>>5675198
I will believe this when EN closes and they are forbidden to even mention Vshojo ever again

>> No.5675778

>>5664358
>Zhangs still trying to rehabilitate their image by shifting blame

From the very beginning the Zhang anti's party line was "Coco out of Cover, or Cover out of China". Coco doing naked dogeza would have made literally no difference. Face it Zhang, CN's reputation has forever been poisoned among Hololive fans. Does anyone have the screenshot of Russian Botan fans warning each other to behave so they wont be viewed the same as the Chinamen?

Also, fans WILL NOT forget. Zhangs thought people would forget about their treatment of Coco because of EN gen 1. They didn't. Zhangs think people will forget about Coco and her graduation after EN gen 2 debuts. They wont.

>> No.5675819

>>5666940
>harassed by her own management
rrat detected

>> No.5675938

>>5671030
So Why you don't go live there and lick their balls, seu imbecil de merda, putinha de chinês, vai lá do o seu cu pra China seu fdp.

>> No.5676019

>>5668163
>Interesting that you don’t even deny that asian societies lack a proper concept of “the right to stand up for yourself.”
Because that's total nonsense you delusional anime binger.

>> No.5676110

This whole thread is delusional nonsense

>> No.5676301
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5676301

>>5664502
so the best way is to kneel? FUCK U and never come back

>> No.5676394

Why can they play Valorant now?
Is it because they fired coco?

>> No.5676473

>>5676394
/pol/fags don't watch streams

>> No.5676848

>>5665430
Astonishingly based anonchama.

>> No.5679254

>>5674540
Go fuck yourself. Insufferable cunt.

>> No.5679391

Yes, it was worth it. It showed that Cover is a spineless company that would rather act like a helicopter soccer mom instead of giving their talent the freedom they need.

>> No.5679511

>>5666363
>coco leaving
>chinks still can't stop seething
Yeah, they "won" alright. Anyway let's be real, they're chinks; they lost at everything the moment they were born.

>> No.5680982

>>5679391
Real shame that coco won't say omanko in front of 50k viewers live, really breaks my heart

>> No.5681319

>>5679391
damn you mutt woketards are still repeating the woke buzzword "creative freedom" despite coming from a censorship happy chinky woke hell hole?

>> No.5681699

Taiwan #1!

>> No.5681970

>>5680982
It's not about that and you know it. It's about making dark jokes, not Vshojo tier humour. That's actually fine with Cover because it's not really controversial.

>> No.5682248

>>5681970
On cover's side it's 100% the lewd stuff, on coco's case more crude than lewd

>> No.5682685

The China bullshit is only a small part of why Coco is leaving. The biggest reason is because she feels too many of her ideas are being denied by management, yet she still has to pay those people part of the money she brings in. Her determination is that she can't go on being restrained, so she's choosing to go indie. Only time will tell of that's the right choice but for Coco as a creative person it's what she wants.
All the Chinese antis "won" was loss of their own branch, the rest of hololive sticking together, and increased hatred when they venture out onto the sites they shouldn't be on.

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5682783

>>5682685
Why do you bump this thread, anon?

>> No.5683084

>>5680982
She said Taiwan anon, omanko is nothing

>> No.5683198

>>5675526
What did you fucking expect? All the replies here are falseflaggers and dramafags.

>> No.5683287

>>5683198
I'm just glad they will be gone after Coco's graduation. I've had it with this shit.

>> No.5683336
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5683336

now that the dust has settled, can everyone agree Cover management is utter shit?

>> No.5683432

>>5683336
No, graduating Coco was the right choice. I mean, did you even read this thread? Things won't get back to normal unless Coco graduate.

>> No.5683483

>>5666425
And? They were the enemies of Japan too, fuck them

>> No.5683535

>>5666363
Chinks are still seething

>> No.5683655

>>5683432
ESL chink seethe

>> No.5684031

>>5664358
yes, chinks are the enemies of civilization and deserve the rope

>> No.5684503

>>5668036
All she did was show her Youtube analytics on stream.
That's it.
You would think with the outrage she pissed on a picture of chairman Mao, nope, just showed her analytics which had Taiwan on it, ironically because the chinks set their VPN there, because they live in an authoritarian shithole that doesn't let them access Youtube otherwise.

>> No.5684957

Call me a brainlet but how did Cover fuck her over exactly? What did you expect them to do?

>> No.5685132

>>5664718
The Rope.

>> No.5687644

>>5684957
Do you ever saw her stream after Taiwan accident?

>> No.5687932

>>5684503
And all chinks did was banter. From Coconigs reaction you'd think the chinks burned down the Holohouse or something.
Fuck off nigger.

>> No.5688082

>>5687644
No, I'm not retarded enough to watch her.

>> No.5688093

>>5668024
Doris didn't make it.

>> No.5688458

>>5667588
Nice cope, but I've been calling her a liability ever since her first yab.

>> No.5689851

Another Victory for China, can't wait for USA collapse and the Nuclear Winter!

>> No.5690318

>>5687932
>*Throws a shitfit because "Taiwan" was said*
>"It's just banter bro"
Fuck off. Chinks wouldn't know banter if it hit them over the head

>> No.5690319

>>5687644
nobody watched her streams, Coco was boring as fuck.

>> No.5690909

>>5690318
>muh words on the internet matter
When did this site get overrun by pussies who think """cyberbullying""" is real?

>> No.5691419

>>5690909
When did I say that? Read my post again

>> No.5691732

>>5666363
Chinks can't stop seething, it's like they are reliving Namkin all over again.

>> No.5696256

>>5687932
>And all chinks did was banter.
Shut the fuck up, you actual retarded nigger.

>> No.5696554

>>5687932
Fuck you

Chink tried to invade Holohouse in NGA

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5697885

>>5665535
based

>> No.5698123

>chiggers and newfags LARPing that the chink brigade was even close to as bad what happened to Aloe or what's *happening* to Aqua in order to feel super-duper important

The chink spam had bottomed out well before she decided to continue with the announcement. She didn't want to be with Cover anymore since Cover was being a cunt. It really is that simple.

>> No.5698942

>>5698123
My personal rrat is that Cover basically lucked into success and has no fucking clue what they're doing.
Hololive has grown hugely over the last year thanks largely due to the pandemic and them being the first to properly crack the overseas market but I don't think the management has properly adjusted to the new reality. You have girls who were singing to audiences in the hundreds last year who suddenly play to tens of thousands and management just coasted along and consistently ignored abuse and burnout in the hope it'll go away and now the inevitable nervous breakdowns are starting.
It honestly wouldn't surprise me if Cover still think of themselves as a tech company with sexy mascots.

>> No.5699322

>>5698942
All this success just because miko said nigga, sugoi

>> No.5700071

>>5664502
Pooh please, go suck chink tiny dick if this is your take

>> No.5700180

>>5698942
>that Cover basically lucked into success and has no fucking clue what they're doing.
This is hardly a rat. It’s nearly objectively true. Every factor that grew Hololive/Cover besides the pure luck was the efforts and charisma of the talents, not the company

>> No.5700254

I skipped the stream because it's Kiara. Is Kiara being an annoying faggot in the meme review or can I watch this?

>> No.5700511

>>5664358
If it weren't for Coco I'd have gone my whole life without knowing the primitiveness of the bugs

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5703885

>>5671119
>>5674227
>>5697885
Do your reps, retards. Or install 4chanx at the very least.

>> No.5703960

>>5700254
She is an annoying faggot throughout most of it. If your love for Coco outweighs your hate for chimkin, watch it. There were only a handful of good ones, as always...

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