now that the duust has settled

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what are our honest verdict on HoloAdvent?

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What EN should have always been. Except Shiori, but every gen needs a weak link I guess. Graduate all of Myth and Council except for Gura, Kiara, Mumei and IRyS.

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4/5
Maybe 3/5 since i don't like Nerissa

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>>56438061
Honestly an extremely high quality group. My personal favorite is Bijou. Don't really like FWMC, too sickeningly sweet for my palate but respect their dedication with respect to not breaking their kayfabe

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>>56438061
They're what HoloEN always should have been. They're all really good.

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I'm looking forward to bijou being cute! She is a princess who carries in Apex.

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>>56438061
Shiori is shit and management should punish her for taking a break, the rest is pretty good. Nerissa swears to much for my liking.

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60% is nothing to celebrate, but Fuwamoco are outstanding. Bijou is okay.
I don't like Nerissa or Shiori

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Koseki: 8/10
Fuwamoco 7.5/10
Shiori: 7/10
Nerissa: 7/10

Good gen, but I prefer Council. In fact I might just take the FauMei duo alone over them.

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>>56438140
I forgot IRyS existed since Advent debuted. Not sure why I only feel that way about her though, she's a'ight.

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>>56438061
Great addition all of them fill a place even Shiori
You don't have to like or watch all so I think they are a solid gen

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Only seen the dogs so far and only on their morning streams but so far so good.

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>>56438567
>I don't like Nerissa or Shiori
I don't get people who like one but dislike the other, they're kinda similar in my taste. Not a huge fan of either, they're just kinda there like Kronii to me

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Why is the dust in a perpetual state of settling for the past week? Will it ever truly settle for good?

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>>56438603
faumei is all council is (bae tries at least i guess)

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>>56438726
Bae is also between 7 and an 8 for me but even stating that gets a man lynched here

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>>56438762
I think bae is cute and funny. And she sings good.

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>>56438811
Very rational and very true

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>>56438061
I love all 5 o them!

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>>56438061
Dogfucker OP and it hasn't even been a month.

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>>56438061
Dwarf the Rock Johnson: 8/10 has areas she needs to improve on

Dog1Dog2: ?/10 depends on stream but either it's 9/10 or 4/10

EmoGirl: Haven't watch

BirdWannabe: GoodSinger/10

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>Shiori
Interesting streams and her little tangents are always captivating. Clashes quite a bit with the hololive culture, but whether she can make that a positive is yet to be seen.
>Nerissa
She seems to be the least experienced when it comes to streaming going by air gap time. That said, she is improving rapidly and makes for rather comfy streams. Kiara yuribaiting feels a little forced, but is good for a laugh.
>Bijou
Her clips are great, but that was expected given her style of streaming. What is impressive is how she manages her energy such that her streams don't feel too hyper. I like her streams very much, and she streams plenty. I can see her struggling in sc revenue, and hope that she capitalizes on interesting merch and a strong membership showing to pay herself the money she deserves.
>Fuwamoco
I expected extremely comfy and sweet streams, and they delivered. I did not expect plenty of funny moments and the twins surprised me with how hilarious their streams can be. I think their positivity and dedication is starting to rub off on the community as a whole which is great. Keeping up kayfabe and putting in such strong professionalism is going to be very tiring, I hope the twins can moderate themselves going forward, perhaps work out a system to prevent burnout if they don't have one already.
>Advent as a whole
While they started off feeling like they have no chemistry, we are starting to see genmate bonds forming, with today's apex stream demonstrating how the three can bounce off each other so well. Bijou seems to be the 'center' so to speak, gelling well with both Nerissa and Fuwamoco. Nerissa and Fuwamoco are getting closer with big sister and little sisters type energy, though I think they can grow even closer. Sadly Shiori is not available today, but based on their previous interactions, I would hope she gets to she 1 on 1 time with each of the others to figure out how their relationship would work on stream, additionally her cultural clash with hololive is getting in the way of her interacting with her genmates, and I hope she finds a compromise soon.

Great first weeks for advent, and much better executed than Council. Omega should be drawn and quartered for his crimes.

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>>56438884
>GoodSinger
Did you watch her karaoke?

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>>56438915
no just the covers she released so far

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>>56438061
>now that the duust has settled
everyone who use this phrase should hang themselves. just sayin

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>>56438912
/vt/ pseudo-intellectuals sounding like ESPN halftime analysts acting like VTubing connoisseurs never ceases to entertain me

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>>56438061
my feeling is if im already doing computer stuff i will watch them over council if nothings on. though if they overlap with my oshi that streams getting closed. i dont see myself turning my comp on specifically to watch any of them.

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>>56438931
Anon... I have bad news for you.

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>>56438954
Maybe the real dust was the friends we made along the way

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>>56438986
this man is not a pseud he is just giving an honest opinion

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>Shiori
Hit or miss. Not talking about PL shit; she's just a very different experience that is definitely not gonna be for everyone. So far her stream topics haven't interested me very much, but that could change in the future.
>Nerissa
She's alright. She's a fine singer for recordings. Her karaoke isn't the best, and she's admitted as much. She wouldn't know kayfabe if it walked up and slapped her on the ass though. She swears a bit too much for my taste and she was a bit of a mood killer in the latest collab. It's hard to describe it but, to me, she feels like she's lacking the degree of separation an entertainer would have from a normal person. She seemingly has no filter and puts on no show. Politely, she's the most "real" of the group. Less politely, she isn't trying very hard to entertain.
>Bijou
A real gem. She's the closest HoloEN has had to a real gamer. She works hard, streams long hours, doesn't get tilted and keeps trying until she succeeds. If gaming isn't the content you enjoy then she probably isn't for you. She's also, objectively, the most seiso of the group.
>FuwaMoco
They make me smile. Not a lot does that anymore. I want to protect their smiles because they are protecting mine. If you are after hardcore gaming content, look elsewhere. Every stream is a collab though, which makes for fun times. The banter back and forth between the sisters is hilarious. Every karaoke is a duet, and that is extremely powerful. Extremely dedicated to the fanbase and it feels wonderful. Like Bijou, they stream enough that you could probably make them your sole content provider. However, you should probably consume in moderation or you may end up with diabetes.

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>>56438997
??? wtf? I thought her karaoke was good?

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>>56438061
Fuwamoco and Bijou are great so far and fit the hololives vibe perfectly.

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>>56438811
bae was the best performance in connect the world concert but her empty brain decreases her entertainment value as a streamer

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>>56439062
Not enough walls of text, gotta up those rows up

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>>56439101
hololives vibe: moe moe kyun
/vt/ 'unicorn' vibe: sex sex sex sex

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>>56438061
Gen3 9/10. the dogs are 20/10 because they are both perfect

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>>56438061
I like them all. They are all cute and fun to watch :)

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>>56439139
At this point I'm pretty sure there is a covert effort on /vt/ to either prop these up as the greatest thing in VTubing history for whatever reason or to astroturf them so much to the point that everyone gets sick of them

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Fuwamoco: my smile is always protected. I love these two girls, they're fantastic. Their potential is sky high, they'll be able to collab with the JPs, I can't wait for their future.
Bijou: She's fun, quirky, interesting and seems like she honestly enjoys streaming games. Which is a big plus considering a lot of the existing EN girls are burning out.
Shiori:
Nerissa: Sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex.

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>>56439169
They're what actual vtubing fans want and not homoshilling ironic weeb faggot clipwatchers

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>>56439254
>Nerissa: Sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex.
u on some real nigga shit fr

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>>56439169
Don't know what other faggots in catalo is saying. But I do genuinely enjoy watching them. They're just "head empty, just smile" content. The perfect vod to watch after work,

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>>56439169
The dogs are just a first look into what a JP chuuba is like for the majority of EOPs here, they haven't been tainted by western culture so for most of the tards here it's a very fresh breath of air compared to other ENs who are just shrouded in layers of shitty irony.

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>>56439269
>actual vtubing fans
Gatekeeping like this is the biggest fucking bs considering not even Yagoo himself does it. They're good, and have their own decent set of fans, but this place props them up way too much considering they're barely even intelligible in English and don't even have god-tier numbers for the numberfags to brag about. True VTubing fans may as well only watch the Annoying Orange if you say so.

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>>56439269
>actual vtubing fans
I love the fact that in couple of weeks dogfuckers really have internalized the essence of "no true scotsman".

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>>56438912
I haven't watched Shiori much so was just curious, what about her do you think clashes with hololive culture?

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>>56439398
>head empty, just smile
I think Koseki is way better in that regard considering she's a memelord who literally said that

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>>56439444
She doesn't know anything about Hololive, nor does she seem interested in being an idol. She wants to be a content creator, not a streamer.

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>>56438061
SEX

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I like all of them, especially FuwaMoco

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>>56439417
Seething 2 view roastie hands wrote this post

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>>56439069
I'll have to agree with this for the most part.

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>>56439608
what a very specific strawman

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>>56439465
better is personal preference. But I do enjoy the full gen alot

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rock cute :D

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>>56439486
>She wants to be a content creator, not a streamer.
Ah, so she's a true old guard when it comes to vtubing.

[Anonymous No.]

If you wanted an honest opinion, you'd ask this in global. Thread-reader's opinions are always trash. They reiterate what they read before to gain imaginary updoots among /vt/'s hivemind.

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>>56439132
you need to be 18 to post here>>56439132

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>>56439844
I'm literally quoting thousands of daily /vt/ posts

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>>56438061
biboo = needs polishing but favorite so far.

bau bau = for adults who wants to feel like kids again. not bad but will watch when nothing is on. they're keyfabe is a bit too strong for my taste at times

rissa = good singer. will watch her karaoke streams.

shiori = just like my ex. talking about things I don't relate to and just nodding in agreement.

They all are good in their own ways. Will see if they improve in the long run.

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>>56439693
She joined hololive to act like a trashy vshojo thot. Old vtubers just made funny clips and didnt need to mention ntr every other stream like that whore did as an indie.

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>>56438061
I like Advent more than Council or Myth. I'm saying this as someone who started watching Hololive since JP Gen 4. As a group they are very competent and likeable. Compared to the earlier two gens where I'll only like one or a couple, I like all of advent.

Personally, I like FWMC the best since they always make me smile.

Bijou is very fun to watch and listen to with her memes.

Nerissa can has her moments and I do like listening to her voice since it feels calming. I don't mind the swearing as much as others.

Shiori is unique in that she talks a lot of random shit that comes up to her mind. I find her stories amusing at times.

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>>56439897
>She joined hololive to act like a trashy vshojo thot
God that's so hot.

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>>56439883
Hornyposting is a part of 4chan since forever. And yet you are attributing that to "unicorns". Just go back to twitter you fucking retard tourist.

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I really like fuwamoco and bijou. Nerissa needs time to marinate

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>>56439937
The don't fucking pretend like this place is speaking for the rights of 'unicorns'

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>>56439843
>If you wanted an honest opinion, you'd ask this in global.
Global is the trash dump for redditfags, it's sad some of you don't even realize that fact. It's hlgs cast offs to stop you from shitting up the rest of the board

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>>56439966
What the fuck does that even mean retard? Are you having a fight with the voices in your head? Kys

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>>56439693
Sad people forgot that's what vtubing originally was long before streams.

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>>56438986
They were ask what they thought, and they said their thoughts. Easy enough to scroll past if you have no interest in someone giving an answer longer than a couple sentences.

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>>56439693
she reminds me of a homo who is currently on hiatus but now streams on his rm account

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>>56438644
She's always kind of a background character for me but I enjoy her whenever she shows up

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>>56439897
Talking about her friend's sexual activity is pretty trashy.

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>>56438694
It's quite simple actually. Nerissa cares about idol culture, loves hololive, and wants to integrate. Shiori gives Mori-ish "applied as a joke" vibes
I say this as someone who views them both as the bottom two in advent

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>>56438061
As individuals they're easily the best group of streamers EN has ever seen, with only Nerissa failing to really fill a new niche. As a whole single unit I don't think they're quite as close as Council, but with Shiori gone they're pretty good as we saw today. Diamond Dogs is probably the best sub-unit of EN though. Once Nerissa warms up a bit, and if Shiori can ever learn to not be a complete autist in collabs I can see them being an absolute powerhouse.

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>>56440110
I think comparing Shiori to Mori is rather insulting.
At the very least, Mori wanted to further her singing career. I don't know what Shiori wants out of Hololive. She seems like the grifter that this board wants to project Mori as.

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>>56438811
I like Bae but I don't know how anyone thinks she's a good singer

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>>56440110
At this point 'idol' is a loosely defined concept that means a hundred different things to a hundred different people. I don't really care if Koseki or FuwaMoco are defined as idols, I just like them.

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>>56440141
It's not binary, they can be similar in some ways and different in others. And regardless of your opinion on mori now, it's a fact to say she didn't give a shit about any of this when she joined. That's from her own mouth

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>>56440144
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAwJ0_uqhb4
This is very good

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>>56440202
Ok now show me something not heavily edited in a studio

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>>56440228
As if actual singers sound any better
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MF8bqFt-n4c
Not everyone can be Gura, Mumei or Moona.

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>>56438986
you are an insecure faggot

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>>56440297
hmm, now that's much more intellectual

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>>56438726
Yeah she tries to jump on homo cock, HEY YO

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>>56440297
Nah, he's right. Those bargain basement analyses are shit but at least they are funny. I mean, laughing at retards is bit cheap, but it is what it is.

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>>56440398
That talking point is now months and months behind us, homos are a non-presence by now

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>>56439417
anon yag is kind of a bussines man. what the fuck do i tell you? you're retarded and made no arguments

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>>56440404
>Giving your opinion is an "analysis"
Brown-kun..

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>>56438061
Nerissa: autistic, boring
Biboo: cute gamer with good work ethics. you could say that she's the forsen of vtubing with how the chat makes up for her being boring
Shiori: kinda interesting with her autism but need more time to see where she's going with all of this
FuwaMoco: boomer game and music taste. they're good idols, but their only stream content is the random noises they make.

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>>56440470
Made no arguments? Look at pot calling the kettle black over here, you stating 'true vtubing fans' as if it means something when the literal owner of the company dominating the market doesn't see a 'true' or a 'fake' VTubing fan. Blame him if that's where you want to unload your grievances.

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>>56440501
It's the verbage, other takes in here were relatively short and tame. I doubt even Hololive staff overanalyze them that much

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>>56440501
>no argument and racism
Did I hit a nerve?

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>>56440141
if the premise of her joining to further her music is true she is by definition a grifter

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>>56440340
thanks
>>56440404
>>56440547
>>56440562
nigger.

Now back to holos.

[Anonymous No.]

4/5

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>>56440670
Sana and Flare will come back with a strongly worded letter.

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>>56440141
Are you discord browns so mind broken by the Oreo woman that you'll defend Mori? Hilarious.

[Anonymous No.]

dogs good

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>>56438061
same as before, I like the doggos and the loli, I don't trust the other 2.
Kronii 2 feels like she is going to break just like Kronii 1 and goth gf day 1 warning is still there.

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>>56438061
I’m glad my oshi are back, that’s all

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>>56440523
That's because you just want a twitch whore with a 2d avatar.
You don't even know what vtubing is

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>>56440670
>makes a tryhard write up like he's a sports pundit on Sky Sports
>gets made fun of for it
>"H-HOW COULD THE BLACKS DO THIS TO ME"

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>>56439269
If you weren't there before they joined hololive, YOU'RE not a "true fan". You're ironically the bandwagoner who never bothered looking for diamonds outside what's being spoonfed to you, and the girls wouldn't like using them to shit on others.
The audacity of these "people" insisting on what a "true fan" is.

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>>56440700
to my dick.

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>>56440945
So true sis

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Diamond Dogs for me

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>>56440880
>sees barely any text on the screen
>"HIGHLY DETAILED TRYHARD ANALYSIS!!"
You're making a joke out of yourself... Don't you have a 200-word essay you need to submit next week? You might barely make it in time if you start now

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>>56440770
Here's the best VTuber strategy;
Announce on debut that you're open to collabing with Homostars and state that you're a big fan of theirs to weed out the schizos, despite going on to list relatively incorrect statements about them, giving away that you're not actually watching them
Spend the rest of career being the purest idol possible without ever acknowledging the homos
Schizos will always live in fear, but normal folks will enjoy their cute pure chuuba who will with time prove herself to actually be top-tier without the /vt/ faggots slobbering over her. Kinda like Mumei collabing with innocuous JP stars once and getting the worst nutcases to back off from her, except there wouldn't even be a collab happening.

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>>56440945
Hi sis

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>>56440945
Cool story but I only watch Hololive. Indies outside the Holobox hold zero interest to me.

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>>56440842
>That's because you just want a twitch whore with a 2d avatar.
Your only argument is a false strawman argument. Ridiculous.

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>>56438061
Given four channels, I think they did a good job getting serving different audiences well with each of them. I expect all to continue to be successful.

My personal opinion, Bijou is the best of the bunch, Fuwamoco not far behind, and the others I don't plan to watch much beyond collabs.

Shiori: interesting ideas, but execution wasn’t compelling enough for me to stick around.

Narrisia: Only thing that really stands out so far for me it her singing when in performance mode, rather than karaoke mode. However, most Hololive songs and covers are not my preferred music.

Fuwamoco: concentrated cuteness, a permanent collab with two people with great chemistry, and perhaps an underappreciated talent to be funny and entertaining without relying on cuteness. However, sometimes, over a long period of time, I find them to me a little TOO much for me.

Bijou: The best gamer, but knows how to use her gaming skills to be entertaining rather than just "win". Also seems to be the most natural in collabs with different types of streamers and open to try anything. Good comedic instincts, and the work she put into Undertail stream impressed me a lot.

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>>56439417
>Gatekeeping like this is the biggest fucking bs
Gatekeeping is what heals and keeps clean the vtubing scene.
Back when EN Vtuber were irrelevant shits, we were gatekeeping all these polticial agenda fucks by telling them to behave or fuck off.
Sadly that didn't work anymore when EN got big, so it is good that we now have Vtubers that filter you fucks.
As for Yagoo, of course he would not gatekeep. As a CEO you want to expand your brand.

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>>56441101
I pretty much completely agree with those takes, the ranking is pretty much the same for me. Bijou >> Dogs > Shiori > Nerissa

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>>56438694
I love Nerissa and don't like Shiori.
The differences are that Nerissa has an amazing voice and Shiori's is fucking awful to me. Nerissa cares a lot about hololive and idols as a whole, Shiori.... lol.
Nerissa is a cute dork who always tries her best to be kind and support whoever she's collabing with, meanwhile Shiori seems to have that sense of humour where she thinks it's funny to be kind of rude and off-putting.
You don't watch either so you don't seem to know what either are like, of course to you who doesn't know them and only judges surface level will see only their surface level similarities.

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>>56441094
don't care
You keep watching your whores I'll watch idols instead.
Just don't pretend you even know what vtubing is eop

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>>56438694
they are very little like each other and neither of them is anything like Kronii
>Nerissa is very talkative and sociable, Shiori is dorky and weird
>Nerissa is a massive Hololive fan and idol otaku, Shiori is neither
>Nerissa likes grindy games, Shiori doesn't like games at all
>Nerissa can sing, Shiori can't
do you not watch streams at all? are you just going off design?
it's baffling

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>>56441067
Why would you want to push away customers for something that you are not even going to do?
Also the worst schizos that are going to backstab you at the slightest mistake are so delusional that they will stick around with fake positivity until you actually fuck up.

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>>56441115
>Gatekeeping is what heals and keeps clean the vtubing scene.
That's just a very subjective take by design.
>Back when EN Vtuber were irrelevant shits, we were gatekeeping all these polticial agenda fucks by telling them to behave or fuck off.
Hololive never allowed politics to begin with and never will, moot point.
>Sadly that didn't work anymore when EN got big, so it is good that we now have Vtubers that filter you fucks. As for Yagoo, of course he would not gatekeep. As a CEO you want to expand your brand.
He hired VTubers that filter this place, but don't filter whatever fucks you're annoyed about. And still people rather listen to him than whatever gatekeeper there is in some containment. If you like the chuubas that would win your average /vt/ straw poll, good for you, that's all there is to say.

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>>56438061
all good, looking forward to everyone's stream at least once a week.

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>>56441166
Nerissa is the best singer in Hololive but her speaking voice is way too in the 'mommy' niche with the basic American accent. Not that I like the Fauna voice much better, but something in-between would do.

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>>56441189
Man you're kicking the living shit outta that strawman, damn chill

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>>56440945
>people who like you, now that they saw you, but didn't know you existed when you were a 2view aren't true fans
This is, literally, the hipster take on life. In reality, there are tens of thousands of vtubers trying to make it big. People cannot possibly find every single 1view or 2view out there and give them a chance to see if they are making good content. It would be great if we lived in such an ideal world, but we don't. A large part of the draw for joining a corporation is the massive exposure you get.
Kindly go back to trying to gaslight people into believing they wouldn't like their oshi if they didn't have the "blue dorito" next to their name. It won't work, but at least that argument is grounded to this plane of existence. Instead of one where the concept of time does not exist.

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>>56441067
Ah yes, woketard homobeggars. A demographic well known for their loyalty and not stabbing vtubers in the back over stupid shit like playing the wizard game.

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>>56441312
Seriously, these retards must only compare them because uhhh both have dark color schemes as designs meanwhile fwmc and Bijou have light color schemes.
The most you can compare them imo is that both are flirty with their fanbase.

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>>56440990
>>56441083
Yes, in fact, true. You weren't there, I was. Don't use the girls for your stupid crusade. They don't want fans like that.

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>>56441314
>customers
Schizos. Regular customers still check you out or come back with time. It's not even a huge chunk that's turn away, but filtering the turds must feel cathartic considering how some have done it in a much more egregious way

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>>56441313
We, the community, did it. And it was much easier when most got filtered by Japanese Vtubers. Obviously is politics a No Go in Hololive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>56441419
>The most you can compare them imo is that both are flirty with their fanbase.
Nta but that prevailing characteristic immediately filtered me from both so I get it

[Anonymous No.]

>>56441390
>woketard homobeggars
>literally said they shouldn't collab with males
retard, not everyone who isn't a schizo unicorn is a homobeggar

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>>56441383
I am juxtaposing their audacity to segregate themselves as "true vtubing fans" when they are the same exact people who should be outside of the walls if gatekeeping actually worked. So it's fucking ironic they call anyone else a fake fan when they're the bandwagoners. I would they there is "nothing wrong" with bandwagoners, but they have no authority to call anyone else not a true fan.

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>>56441464
For Shiori, you can tell she's forcing it, and it won't be long until she's at an impasse and has to go all in or drop it altogether. I'm betting the latter which will backfire on her.
For Nerissa, it does feel disingenuous while she's out there trying to get into every girl's pants while also trying to do GFE.

Both of them are horrible and fail at the basic thing, they will be ruined by their fanbases but it's their fault for not setting the record straight.

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>>56438061
it alright.
fuwamoco is interesting but not my cup of tea
shiori seems like she will be the most "out there" with content since she is the furthest thing from a gamer in all of EN
nerissa is a normalfag, in a good way. also not really good at games.
and bijou is basically EN luna

[Anonymous No.]

>>56441442
We did it Re-, I mean, /vt/!

[Anonymous No.]

>>56438061
biboo is a good girl

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I really didn't expect to get so much happy and wholesome vibes from Biboo, just her nickname alone "Biboo" sold it for me, i love her so much. 10/10 gen!!!

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>>56441526
Okay, I see where you are coming from now. Didn't realize tards were trying to take a divisive stance on them like that. Nobody should be trying to pull a fucking "no true scotsman" over vtubers of all things. That's hilariously bad taste on their part. My bad for not reading the full conversation. I still don't think there's anything wrong with being fans of them as soon as you find them, even if you only discover them after they joined Hololive. Surely they would want as many people to enjoy them as possible.

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>>56441526
If you like whoretubers you're not a real vtubing fan, simple as. Has nothing to do with how quickly you find talent and everything to do with what types of vtubers you actually watch. Lots of seething roasties coping about this.

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>>56440945
>Reeee you need to sift through piles of 2 view twitch shit or you're not a vtubing fan!!!
Nah I just learned Japanese and watched HoloJP instead. kys femoid

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>>56441874
>Nah I just learned Japanese and watched HoloJP instead. kys femoid
Nta but some people out there aren't terminally online and have a job and can't spend time learning a language with an entirely different writing system like some autists learning a language spoken in one country that's declining in population

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>>56441823
I can do that too;
If you watch clips, you're not a true fan.
If you don't even understand the vtubers you watch, you're not a true fan.
If you use the girls to attack other vtubers, you're not a true fan, especially theirs.
If you have to compartmentalize your enjoyment by calling yourself a "true fan" instead of just enjoying those you like watching, you're not a true fan.

A fan is defined by engaging with the hobby and enjoying their content. Destroying everyone' elses enjoyment or dramafagging over it is not a fan, but a tourist who shits the on the table everyone else eats in, only to leave once he's bored. Get out.

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>>56441987
Japan makes the last of the unpozzed media. If you want to watch shows that aren't filled with nogs and troons you'll need to learn Japanese. And no subs are not an option because troons infiltrated the translation groups too

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>>56440998
dont.. narissalt will be jealous

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>>56441874
Where were you when the twins were 2views? If you have time to learn JP, you have time to search YouTube for vtubers.

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>>56442051
/pol/ is that way sir ->

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I'm looking forward to Mococo's solo stream, she's my favorite out of whole Advent

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>>56442032
>You must be le heckin wholesome unity fag or you're not a fan
Reddit awaits

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>>56442090
>stream stars with coffing and spitting
>fuck this dog roleplay

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>>56438348
Well fuck you anon

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>>56441093
based

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>>56442116
Liking Hololive and all of its chuubas is more prevalent in the community than hating on certain chuubas and pitting them against each other. This is supposed to be a wholesome hobby unless you're a dickhead

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>>56442172
>This is supposed to be a wholesome hobby
And yet the EN scene is rife with grifting whores

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>>56442225
There you go again, might as well call all women grifting whores and be done with it. This ain't some political revolution full of traitors, it's a chuuba behind an avatar and while the indie scene sure has its share of the worst grifting whores, Hololive girls ain't doing nothing especially egregious and are kept in check by the management, You don't respond by being a bigger dickhead than whatever some ENs are.

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>>56438061
>Fuwamoco 10/10
>Biboo 9/10
>Nerissa 6/10
>Shiori 3/10

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>>56442426
I think you've lost sight of where this all started. Here >>56439169
It has nothing to do with whats in Hololive or outside Hololive. The sole point being made is that Fuwamoco are popular here because they're closer to the vtubing ideal than any EN before them has come.

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you can't imagine how I hate reddit threads luke this one

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>>56439169
No, it's just what most people here actually want from a holo. Sorry if you don't like them, but they are practically everything I could have asked for in a holo. From their wholesomeness to their love for everything Japan and idol stuff, to how cute they are, their adorable voices, how fun their banter is, how good they are at controlling their expressions and models, etc.

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>>56438061
>Fuwamoco 9.9/10
>Nerissa 8.5/10
>Bijou 8.5/10
>Shiori 0/10 tentatively, elevated to 6/10 if she doesn't do male collabs

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The dust hasn't settled yet. We still have another week before we can definitively say whether or not Advent lived up to expectations. In fact once Shiori returns that's gonna make or break the group's reputation. You think I'm joking but I'm not.

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>>56438986
The hacks on sports commentary wish they could say as much as we do bitchass nigga

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>>56442584
>>56442668
Nothing more to conclude than that Hololive seemingly created two chuubas specifically for the purist /vt/ weebs, but the problem isn't about them at all, but the worship that simply alienates anyone who doesn't consider them an 11/10 but rather okay cute chuubas. Right now they've got the most annoying gatekeeping cult fanbase in VTubing that no wonder I'm seeing ruffians being called dogfuckers.

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I think Advent would be much better without Shiori, the apex stream showed that. Bitch already lost her place. Just fucking graduate.

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>>56443067
Who cares. People using 4chan will lean a certain one on average. There's a reason you tend to find more Mori/Kronii/Shiori dislike here than outside and there's also a reason why others might be even more beloved or praised here than they would in other places.

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>>56443087
Why graduate when she's earning PhD money, lmao kek

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>>56439398
They have season 1 Kemono Friends energy, just watching them is "Happy Meal Brain" mode.

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>>56443125
That dogfuckers nickname is bound to catch on very much like chumkeks or deadcucks, lol

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>>56443174
I'm a day 1 chumbud and shrimp, do you think I care about all those creative nicknames?

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>>56443148
But when I say I like moe seiso chuubas other than FuwaMoco, I get shit on for supporting prude chuubas not willing to coombait and romantically pander, sigh

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>>56443189
If you're supporting literally the #1 subbed chuuba in the world, then surely not

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>>56443228
This doesn't really happen and if it did you're stupid cause everything will get shit on at some point by some guy here on 4chen

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Watched their debut streams
>Shiori out

Watched their first few streams
>Nerissa out, disgusting lesbian persona, that's gonna be her entire shtick

Watched the group collab with Kiara
>Bijou out, she's alright I thought she was gonna be pure though, but she's a zoomer who will make constant sex jokes as well, no ty

Only Fuwamoco remains
they're so good every streams feels scripted, it's really like watching a fun morning show
Often euro time friendly as well

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>>56443289
>everything will get shit on at some point by some guy here on 4chen
Yes, and it sucks. I'm only here because this is the only open forum for discussing chuubas pretty much, but what I should learn is that every chuubas sucks and I should be fixin' to touch grass

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Watch these 3 minutes to get a grasp of why Fuwamoco are so amazing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHUGHrXYPa4?&t=12477
>How they perfectly control their expressions and models
>This back and forth and the way they react to it
>Mococo playing the pouting role
>Fuwawa adding some banter inbetween

This is a prime example of why they are absolutely lovable and everything we could ask for

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>>56443174
I doubt it will have much impact since any Fuwamoco fan will proudly admit yes they want to fuck these dogs

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>>56443473
Well there goes the wholesome idol part

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>>56443392
No you just need to learn to not care. If you let random shitposts on this site get to you then it's the wrong place

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>>56443506
Idols don't become un-wholesome just because fans masturbate to the thought of having sex with them. People will do that no matter what.

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>>56443507
Nah it's grass for me, this thread will soon be dust.... that will settle.

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>>56443506
Everyone wants to fuck their idol though

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>>56443529
Then real dogfuckers, I mean ruffians, better be offended by that slanderous term

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>>56443570
you don't deserve the idol, you deserve the whores
may i wish them all some fruitful male collabs with lots of sex

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>>56443635
Ok sister back to Tempiss with you. Vesper graduation soon.

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>>56443658
>homobeggar strawman
it's like a bot response by now

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Wish they had at least two EU girls

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>>56438061
A goddamn miracle. Will be looked back on as the thing which saved vtubing in the west

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>>56443704
Two Brits please

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>>56443715
least overexaggerating melodramatic advent fan

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>>56438061
GOLDEN GEN

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You can smell the seethe in this thread. All kinds of subhumans are crawling out of the woodwork, infuriated by the sight of actual good vtubers that show everything else up in the EN scene as the fetid goblin shit it always was.

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>>56438061
I kneel to Mr. Jap. I might not want to watch all of them, but overall it's the most talented EN gen yet.

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>>56443812
All ENs are great including FuwaMoco and all the others, both sides can seethe. Yagoo always wins.

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>>56438061
FWMC: 9/10
Biboo: 8/10
Nerissa: 8/10
Shiori: I don't watch potential homocollaber. Probably 7 or 8 if she isn't.

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>>56438061
>Shiori
best design out of EN and her tangents/gfe moments do kinda make me feel something. her voice unironically I kinda grew to like since she sounds like Mabel from Gravity Falls BUT the fact that she doesn't play games is kind of a bummer and of course the elephant in the room is still there but I guess will see what happens
>Biboo
finally an actual long stream gamer for EN, literally what I've been wanting and shes a cute and funny design too which is a plus. Really love how happy and friendly she is with chat as well BUT the fact that her game choices as of late are kinda bad (BoTW/Katamari) and her senpai idol is kinda bad (Mori) is a bit worrisome.
>FWMC
Bau Bau. I want them to protect my smile. Love the constant collab energy they have, truly a HoloJP experience but for EN. BUT, that comes at the fear that they might pander a bit too much with JP down the road which Im afraid of, as well as the fact that I'm not really found of the loud screaming they do when they get too into a game
>Nerissa
I really wanna like her man, but damn is she just kinda...there. Her singing voice is fantastic of course, but her mannerisms when it comes to playing games (poorly) or getting on chat all the time (backseated by one guy and proceeded to get angry at chat for a minute) really brings the mood down when watching her. Hope she improves, unless she just becomes another Ame/Kronii and will continue to loathe reading her chat while doing things.

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>>56443829
>most talented EN gen yet
Aside from Nerissa's singing, in which way

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>>56440511
be less obvious cuck
I have a hard time believing someone could describe Shiwhori as being "interesting" while at the same time claiming Bijou and Nerissa as boring

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>>56443883
>Shiori
best zatsu
>Bijou
best gamer, most streaming hours
>Fuwamoco
best kayfabe and JP-like appeal, most streams

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>>56443856
>All ENs are great

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>>56443961
those are barely talents. I like Bijou for example but unless she's got some gaming world records I barely care about that, lol

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>>56443877
I mean, if you're into holoJP and love how much FWMC feel like holoJP, then you shouldn't mind them occasionally speaking Japanese. Their collabs with holoJP will no doubt be in JP too, as practically none of the JPs can speak even passable English.

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>>56443990
I like to watch someone who genuinely loves their games and has the skills to show for it, rather than someone who mainly streams games because it's the vtubing meta and has it show in their level of play.

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>>56444018
>Their collabs with holoJP will no doubt be in JP too, as practically none of the JPs can speak even passable English.
That's a given considering FWMC can barely speak passable English either

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>>56442477
based and true

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>>56438912
>Omega should be drawn and quartered for his crimes
Damn dude, chill he is already dead. But yes, he should.

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>>56444043
Based, im not gonna watch streamer game 2056 or god forbid another minecraft stream because its boring, Bijou actually seem to LIKE games.

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I’m a 2view and I think they’re all very good and I completely understand why they were choosen. To be honest I think that all those ones that are seething at advent are most likely the ones that doesn’t look properly at themselves as a entertainments and just want Willy Wonka’s golden ticket, sure you need luck but also a lot of work polishing your own quirks.
Nerissa and Bijou doesn’t suit my personal taste but still feel like they have something unique to them. I love fuwamoco and feels like a ray of hope towards japanese style vtubing but western, also know as weeb cringekino stuff. Overall I’ve liked them more than Council and Myth.

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>>56443727
i don't know a single british vtuber that's good so no thank you
>t. british

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>>56438061
In the order that I like them
>Fuwamoco
I wasn't sure how a twins channel was going to work, but it feels like a never ending collab and those are the kinds of streams I enjoy most. They work extremely well together and make for some really cute moments being in sync while also having distinguishing personalities. So far, I've really enjoyed their streams and am looking forward to more (though I was not impressed by the Apex stream and it felt like they were throwing every match)
>Bijou
pretty generic in my opinion, but sometimes that's all you need. The few streams I've watched were entertaining and I think she has a lot of potential so I'll be keeping an eye on her as time goes on.
>Nerissa
I honestly can't tell if I fucking hate her or she's on par with Fuwamoco. I like when she's passionate about something and gushes about it, but she just sounds... careful? I don't know how to put it... I had an old coworker that was such a fucking loser and everybody hated him but he just couldn't pick up the signals but would always make this weird awkward forced laugh like he was trying to ease the tension or come off as charming... she laughs like that and I can't fucking unhear it. It's like she's unrefined cringe. Teetering between painfully cringe and endearingly cringe. We'll just have to see.
>Shiori
No. She sounds like a whore and it's not cute, funny, or entertaining. Nerissa already pushes it with the yuribait, but the exaggerated flirting is so off-putting and incredibly unattractive to me. She lacks the level of class I expect from Hololive and feels more like one of the many indi's and some corpos that dial up the sex to the point it's just gross. I'll see how it goes in future collabs and maybe if she's streaming something I'm interested in it could be fun, but I'm not holding my breath.

Overall though, I've been enjoying them and I think it's good to get some fresh faces in there. Myth was feeling fucking dead and CouncilRyS was hit or miss. I don't keep up with the rrats, but sounds like EN had a change of hands recently so with Advent and that, I'm hoping things start looking up.

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>>56444018
yeah I guess I just keep thinking of the worse case scenario and they go the Anya route down the line, but I don't think things will go that bad. JP streams like once or twice a month I think would be ok

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>>56438061
>Verdict when its still debut month
I swear you fking newfags are retarded, there is a reason why anyone with a working brain wait at least 3 months before deciding.

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>>56438061
i want mococo solo stream....
I still only watch biboo from the start of the second week until today

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>>56444220
>I’m a 2view and I think they’re all very good and I completely understand why they were choosen
....except Shiori apparently. Or maybe this is what this post was all about.

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>>56443990
Being a good gamer opens up more entertainment options when playing games. and Bijou has shown she knows how to exploit those options.

It allows Bijou to troll the collab members while still ensuring forward progres, comment on more things with increased situational awareness, focus more on chat while playing, or try entertaining challenges that would be impossible for others.

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>>56443990
Getting me to watch and enjoy an Apex stream requires talent. It's like those 5-star chefs that can take all the foods you hate and turn it into the most delicious meal you've ever had.

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>>56444611
checked
I would also like to see a solo stream from both of them at some point. Finding something that the one specifically likes either more or over the other and running with it. Might be fun get to know them individually here and there.

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>Bijou
Very cute and funny streamer, with a lot of genuinely endearing manerisms. Singing is a lot of sovl, but a lot of potential.
>FWMC
The kayfabe is too much for me even in clips, the "twins saying same thing" schtick already got old for me. The singing is really good though, one of the best in EN.
>Nerissa
Boring streams, but at least the clips from them can be funny. Singing is pure kino, with such a poweful voice Rissa could very much become the Suisei of EN.
>Shiori
I find the GFE pandering really cringe, but she still makes decent background audio. Nothing to say about her singing, the unarchived karaoke was kinda sovl, but the selection of songs wasn't something that showcases voice really well.

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>>56438061
IT’S BEEN LESS THAN A MONTH
FUCK OFF AND ROPE /V/ERMIN

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>>56438061
Good/very

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>>56438061
I enjoy them all very much. FWMC are cute, Nerissa is cute, Bijou is cute, Shiori is cute!

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>>56442116
No one likes antis anon. Piss off.

[Anonymous No.]

bijou - she's ok, mostly her game choices are preventing me from watching more. i like the genre, but have specific reasons i'm avoiding each of them.
nerissa - tired of the yuri. tired of all the kiara shit.
fwmc - i like them a lot.
shiori - her voice filters me, but i can get over that. i watch luna. but she's a shitty actor and that makes her gfe and other stuff too cringe to watch. gfe has to feel authentic and hers absolutely does not.