I like how they address their audience about issues

[Anonymous No.]

There was no complaining, no making viewers feel bad. By presenting the situation with humour, they manage to keep a light-hearted tone while still getting the message across.

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>>56430632
They just made a joke with no message to get across, retard. There is no "issue"
They literally said today, in the stream that just ended, that they love all the Bau Baus in chat.

[Anonymous No.]

wat. is this a jab to fauna? what the fuck are trying to say huh? HUH?!? i'll kick your ass

[Anonymous No.]

>>56430762
Rope cuckling

[Anonymous No.]

For some reason, JP holos and their fans are able to banter without either side getting mad about it. Why can't HoloEN do this?

[Anonymous No.]

>Lecturing your audience is okay when advent does it

[Anonymous No.]

qrd?

[Anonymous No.]

>>56430940
There was no lecture. Watch streams.

[Anonymous No.]

>>56430934
Twitch corrupted the EN minds and we devolved our brains to only be capable of spamming emojis and short meme like phrases

[Anonymous No.]

>>56431140
草wwwwwww

[Anonymous No.]

Already coping I see. Don't come whining back here when they do something much worse down the line.

[Anonymous No.]

>>56430940
>Lecturing your audience
"i am not your friend"

[Anonymous No.]

>>56430934
>banter

[Anonymous No.]

>>56430632
What message, schizo?

[Anonymous No.]

they told me do bau bau harder
BAU BAU MOTHERFUCKER

[Anonymous No.]

>>56431140
UnUn
Kawaii
Soudesune
Naruhodo
Haihai
Eeeee
Erai

[Anonymous No.]

>>56430632
Was it meant to be "the talk"?

[Anonymous No.]

>>56430632
>opens any Fuwamoco stream at the end
>*insert ruffian name* BAU BAU!
>*insert ruffian name* BAU BAU!
>*insert ruffian name* BAU BAU!
>*insert ruffian name* BAU BAU!
Please, OP. First, take a big step back, and literally FUCK YOUR OWN FACE.
then just kill yourself, pretty please!

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>>56431140
Sad but true. Fuwamoco asked us to tell more about ourselves in comments and often ask our opinion on a specific thing, they are basically encouraging more in-depth answers. We are not worthy, we need to get better for Fuwamoco.

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>>56431277
Pekora/Marine relationships with their chat definitely apply there.

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>>56432074
>This is the average ruffian
lol, lmao even

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>>56430632
>>56430940
While don't think this was an "issue" per se, this gives me faith tat they can address thing without going derailing a stream for 30 minutes to whine about lewd art or a stale joke.

Speaking of, has anyone else noticed vtubers complaining about the most random, easily ignored shit in the past two weeks? Like more than usual?

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>>56432809
Imagine falling for this shit bait. already the second or third thread in, nijiniggers really trying to shit up fuwamoco of all people.... Shiorin really killed herself with that "vacation"

[Anonymous No.]

>>56432080
Too much effort. I'm the consumer.
They need to entertain me

[Anonymous No.]

>>56432809
>vtubers complaining about the most random, easily ignored shit
>Rin
>Ina
>Kiki
All in 1 week too. They really need to learn how to ignore bait, or keep their rants to 5 minutes max.

[Anonymous No.]

>>56430632
Youre reading too much into it

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>>56430934
They're operating on the razor's edge. They have more closeness with their fans, but it also means they have to be much more careful than the ENs. They're always one comment away from being stalked and raped or having their house burnt down or some other extreme shit. Yeah, it's extremely unlikely, but Japanese otaku have done crazy shit. Chinese "fans" are obviously worse, but I'd still be scared to get on the bad side of otaku.

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>>56433224
QRD?

[Anonymous No.]

https://youtu.be/fPMwdsz_zAI?t=7
>Thank you so much for all your overwhelming support and love, and most of all, your energetic bau bau's!
Regretting bau baus is the stupidest rrat

[Anonymous No.]

bau bau fatigue kicking in

[Anonymous No.]

>>56430934
Because nips are limp dick yesmen who will take any abuse and beg for more.

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>>56430934
There's only ever one side getting mad, and it's not HoloEN. Maybe Mori on two occasions, but everything else has been sisters taking the smallest thing and forever holding a grudge because of their thin skins.

> improve (You)rself
omg why would she say that?! i've improved myself by watching someone else
> i'm not (You)'re friend
omg why would she say that?! these other vtubers are totally my friend
> don't (You) have friends of the opposite sex?
omg why would she say that?! of course i don't have friends of the opposite sex
> must be nice to have (You)r ups together in life watching 2 anime girls playing guilty gear
omg why would she say that? she fucking hates her fans

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>>56433988
>t. yescuck

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>>56433988
Unlike Mori, Ame and Ina. Kronii is just naive and stupid.
Also doesn't help she took the 'own the haters' advice from Mori after she effectively defused her biggest yabe

[Anonymous No.]

>>56430632
>>56430749
This, take your fucking meds OP.

[Anonymous No.]

Everybody already made fun of you in the last thread OP.
Do you have a humiliation fetish or something

[Anonymous No.]

>>56430934
y'know, aside from all the times that one side did get made in JP.

[Anonymous No.]

>>56433611
I know Rin whined about comments of a sexual nature and threatened to ban anyone sending those. No idea what Ina and Kiki have said

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>>56433988
> i'm not (You)'re friend
retarded because why would you say that? Everyone knows it Fauna, but she's the only one who felt the need to speak it, which changes the dynamic entirely
>improve (You)rself
will never not be fucking funny
>don't (You) have friends of the opposite sex?
how tf is this dumb bitch going to make obscene amounts of money off of lonely virgins and then be surprised when half are lonely virgins? I think that's the only reason this one gets me. It's just her being clueless.
>must be nice to have (You)r ups together in life watching 2 anime girls playing guilty gear
I don't watch mori and never will so i have no opinion on this. It's either really funny or mori made it awkward somehow, as she does.

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>>56430749
Are you telling me that a chuuba is playing a character and just has to lie to their audience to be free of yabs? I guess Fauna didn't get the memo.

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>>56434990
>lie
iine

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>>56433611
>>56434931
- Rin had an entire stream going over her chat rules, talking about being asexual, and generally bitching for an hour and a half.

- I don't know what the Ina thing is about. Probably complaining about lewd art again?

- Kiki was complaining about having to cancel some plans or something, chat made suggestions on how to fix the problem and she apparently sperged out.

Tard wrangling your chat is one thing, but long ass tangents and whole streams just to complain about shit is fucking gay.

[Anonymous No.]

>>56433988
There's being thick skinned, and there's being a doormat. White knights tend to be the latter, while thinking of themselves as sigma males.

[Anonymous No.]

>>56434934
>will never not be fucking funny
Even more so coming from EN's best example of wasted potential.

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>>56430934
IRyS can
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4H3uVMzcDQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RVjp3PQXNk

[Anonymous No.]

>Unicorns get upset and complain
>She is not your girlfriend, stop complaining
>Shit you are right, she isn't. Fuck that bitch, I'll find new one.
>You can't say that and leave. Start acting more like cuck!
>???

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>>56433561
In the 40+ years that Japanese idols have existed and despite tens of thousands of idols being active at any given time, the number of cases that have resulted in an actual violent attack by a fan can be counted on one hand. Don't take Perfect Blue and Oshi no Ko too seriously.

[Anonymous No.]

The discord must be giving out steam giftcards again for this nothingburger """yab""" to still be posted
Guess the "JP cucking" falseflag failed the first time, FWMCschizo?

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>>56435339
>I don't know what the Ina thing is about. Probably complaining about lewd art again?
At some point she's going to have to stop beating a dead horse and accept that takodachis are just retarded coomers.

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>>56430632
What message?

[Anonymous No.]

>>56430632
But you could also feel they were insulting people's intelligence or maybe that their message didn't get across. Schizos always find a way, because what a vtuber actually does matters less than what an anti or fan feels.

[Anonymous No.]

>>56430632
You could say they are well traveled.

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>>56435974
There was no message. They made a joke about people saying bau bau randomly in public and that it's a virus ruffians are catching

And somehow, someway, falseflaggers/the FWMCschizo is spreading around that they're telling their fans to stop doing it and dumbfuck threadreaders are lapping it up and writing their worthless opinion on the matter.

It's a massive nothingburger in every sense. Just ignore it and wait for the next fabricated "yab"

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>>56436018
>insulting people's intelligence
Their whole identity is bau bau and un un and other retarded noises. I don't think their fans have intelligence to be insulted.

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>>56435745
It was also mainly some cases years ago that involved stalkers and pedos that also had associated things in their home. It conjured a strong image in Japan that otaku are essentially ticking time-bombs. To the point that people actively hid the fact that they were otaku for decades.

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>>56435546
She's a treasure

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>>56436112
Like I was saying, there are multiple possible ways to interpret their actions, and you've just proven that.

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>>56436180
Ogey, dogfucker.

[Anonymous No.]

>>56430632
>>56430934
>>56430940
>>56431254
It wasn't a way to tell them to stop doing it you retards. You don't invent a condition where you can't stop Bau Bauing if they wanted to make their fans stop, it's the opposite, they want to encourage it simply because it's fun you overdramatic sisters.
They literally posted picrel right when the stream ended

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>>56436112
so true sister
also bau bau

[Anonymous No.]

>>56430632
After all I did for them since debut likr post abouy them /here/ they mock me? Publicly!? AIIEEEEEEEE

[Anonymous No.]

These rrats keep getting more and more deranged.
I wonder what the next one will be.

[Anonymous No.]

>>56435546
Irys is holojp

[Anonymous No.]

>>56436241
Don't get upset just because I tell the truth.

[Anonymous No.]

>>56436420
BAU BAU NIGGER

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>>56436315
I can already predict the next rrat:
>Fuwawa and Mococo talk about their love for cats again
>They go on a tangnent for 3 minutes about how delicious cats are (in kayfabe)
>FWMCschizo processes this as them saying cats are better than dogs
>cats are heavily loved in Japan
>spins it as some shrouded message that they're saying that Japan is better than the west
>multiple JP ruffian cuck posts about it
>dumbfuck catalog shitters lap it up
>gets BAU BAUed into submission
>he retreats to find a new yab to falseflag with

They're not sending their best, it seems.

[Anonymous No.]

>>56436460
Japan also has a lot of love for dogs, see the Shiba Inu

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>>56430934
This.
If an EN holo tried to banter with the chat like Marine, /vt/ would instantly be in a meltdown mode about how she is mocking her fans. It's really bizarre. Usually it's the westerners who love banter, why is the situation flipped in vtubing?

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>>56436655
so true sis

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>>56436077
>people saying bau bau randomly in public
I hope adults are not really doing this, shit's fucking sad.
I don't care about these girls but if this is all that happened, this thread is fucking worthless and OP is a faggot, per usual.

[Anonymous No.]

>>56430934
Unironic skill issue
FWMC is already working on having bants with their fans and having some success

[Anonymous No.]

>>56436727
Nothing happened except maybe inside OP head.

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>>56436655
Not true, not only does JP not do shit like this, when she talked about wanting more female ichimis, IMMEDIATELY male ichimis started commenting about her not wanting them which led her to backpedal, and it was all in lighthearted fun from all sides. The difference is the hugbox hivemind mentality of EN leading chat to only ever say exactly what they want to hear instead of making their own jokes and banter like in JP

[Anonymous No.]

>>56436770
this board should cease to exist

[Anonymous No.]

>>56436655
There is a difference between flirtatious teasing and lecturing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>56436775
Sisters don't watch streams
All they know about marine comes from clips and even those are very limited

[Anonymous No.]

>>56436531
Yeah, but the FWMCschizo would neither know nor care about that, let’s be honest.

[Anonymous No.]

>>56436460
At this point you'd think they'd get the message. Literally everything with the twins will be answered by BAU BAU.

[Anonymous No.]

>>56436775
>leading chat to only ever say exactly what they want to hear instead of making their own jokes and banter
this is an actual thing happening in live chats for most big streams; braindead hivemind reactions and comments. things weren't this dire 10 years ago.

[Anonymous No.]

>>56435339
The eien whore kiki or 4chan kiki?

[Anonymous No.]

>>56436899
What do you want in big entertainers chat? Some deep cutting critisism about things that are near to your heart?

[Anonymous No.]

>>56436966
no, but I'd expect some level of individualism

[Anonymous No.]

>>56436899
Mostly yes, but there are streamers with chat slightly thinking more for themselves

[Anonymous No.]

>>56437013
Like what?

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>>56436727
>I hope adults are not really doing this, shit's fucking sad.
No one is actually doing this. It's not another Schezwan Sauce mcdonlads incident. It's an incredibly lighthearted joke they made and schizos turned it into a "they HATE their fans" rrat

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>>56436655
How do you not know this? Its corporatized western internet culture. You can call it "redditspeak" or whatever, but the simple fact is that the new western internet has been designed for years to support and signal boost a comment system of suckups and asskissers while any dissent is hidden and even punished with lasting effects that follow the account of the user. Most people here cant even name a living website that doesnt follow this model. Even our 2ch imitation has turned away from cultural self-moderation to heavy moderation pruning, because the average janny is an english internet user and cant handle the idea of 2024 4chan not being 2014 4chan even though they logically know that 2014 4chan and 2004 4chan were night and day.

[Anonymous No.]

>>56430632
Eat your heart out miss improve yourself

[Anonymous No.]

>>56430762
Bro go back to twiter if you just wanna pull shit out you ass.

[Anonymous No.]

>>56433988
There's a huge problem on delivery of all these. Especially Ame and Kronii

[Anonymous No.]

>>56436775
>IMMEDIATELY male ichimis started commenting about her not wanting them which led her to backpedal
IIRC they were just roleplaying the role of a jealous husband, they weren't seriously trying to get Marine to back down. If you have the link + timestamps, I'll go rewatch it.

>>56436802
What makes you think I'm advocating for lectures?

>>56437349
Sure, that's all mostly true (I know from personal experience that certain things will get shut down pretty fast here even if you adhere to all the rules) but if you think the influence of that model extends to simple banter you're overestimating its power. You get your head cut down easily in the sphere of high-level topics but I'm not expecting more than low-level topic (low as in low importance) banter from vtubers... well I say that, but I only watch JP vtubers so I'm getting what I want already and what goes on EN isn't particularly important to me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>56438500
>What makes you think I'm advocating for lectures?
You're saying the EN audience would react the same way they do to EN's lecturing as they would to Marine's banter. They wouldn't, because Marine doesn't lecture.

[Anonymous No.]

At this point I'm pretty sure there is a covert effort on /vt/ to either prop these up as the greatest thing in VTubing history for whatever reason or to astroturf them so much to the point that everyone gets sick of them

[Anonymous No.]

>>56432080
they cant get that from a 4/5view chat, they're too used to being small streamers

[Anonymous No.]

>>56438535
What I'm saying that the hypothetical EN Marine's quotes would be taken out of its light playful context and there would be million threads about it, distorted images with red text would be posted and the majority of the participants in the drama would never watch the actual stream and think EN Marine is a bitch who disrespects her fans and the hobby.

[Anonymous No.]

>>56430934
because if we're gonna be honest, most of the JP girls are yesmen who will just accept whatever the audience's asking even if they do not truly want to do it.
i'm nor saying it's a bad thing, these girls are definitely more suitable for the idol industry, but at the same time, not speaking up and becoming one's bitch isn't a perfect idea either, because if the glass between fiction and reality shatters even once, then the audience reacts in an infinitely worse manner. we shouldn't encourage lectures of course, but we shouldn't punish the idea of saying what you think without filters either. or at least that's how i see it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>56435339
>>56435920
i literally watch every single ina stream, and she hasn't complained about lewd art since june. i don't even know what that dork tried to do by creating an evidently false rumor, but it's really fucking stupid.
she only had to say it once, and the takodachis understood. there aren't even any comments about it in her streams, that anon genuinely just pulled it out of his ass.

[Anonymous No.]

>>56436655 (me)
>>56438673 (me)
Something that slipped my mind while posting all this: it's extremely questionable if even half the stuff written on /vt/ should be treated as genuine sentiment of the fans, /vt/ is a battleground full of bad faith actors, propagandists, psyops etc.

[Anonymous No.]

>>56438500
>they weren't seriously trying to get Marine to back down
As I said, it was all in fun, but no, they were in the end trying to get marine to back down and Marine did so, also in fun. There's just so much more genuine communication between chat and streamer in JP instead of braindead yes-men in EN. This in the end leads to a more healthy streaming experience because she's not lecturing anyone, she's directly communicating with the chat.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9aaU8ZqNNY0&ab_channel=MarineCh.%E5%AE%9D%E9%90%98%E3%83%9E%E3%83%AA%E3%83%B3
At around 2:08:00 and 2:23:00 otherwise there's also this clip that encompasses it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaQpZEqEvEA&ab_channel=HololiveClips
Immediately starts explaining that she cares for her male fans too and thinks of her crew as strong burly men.

[Anonymous No.]

>>56435546
But did he supa?

[Anonymous No.]

>>56438673
>>56439737
Highly disingenuous, that is not what happens at all because the behavior isn't inherently toxic or cannot be seen this way.
Also, this discussion is retarded because you're one of the dumbasses that actually for the rrat that the dogs are trying to lecture their fans to stop the Bau Baus when they've done the exact opposite in that very stream

[Anonymous No.]

dogs good

[Anonymous No.]

>>56441485
>because she's not lecturing anyone, she's directly communicating with the chat.
Based on this and 56436802 it sounds like the misunderstandings here that you think I'm trying to excuse the actions of ENs and that I'm trying to argue that someone telling you to improve yourself is banter. The only thing I said is what I think would happen in a hypothetical scenario where an EN would do JP banter.
>>56442203
You're calling me disingenous
>Also, this discussion is retarded because you're one of the dumbasses that actually for the rrat that the dogs are trying to lecture their fans to stop the Bau Baus when they've done the exact opposite in that very stream
and then you pull this nonsense out of your ass when there's nothing in my posts that even remotely implies that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>56430934
One has to deal with a homogenous people who share culture and moral values. The other has to deal with subhumans from all over the world. Oh gee, I wonder why?