/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

Uhhhh... 2view indie here. How do you stop goslings from trying to groom you? Like, as soon as possible. Im worried...

[Anonymous No.]

>>56222697
You don't. Take their money, idiot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>56222697
Say you have a bf, unless you a homo THEN ABORT ABORT.

[Anonymous No.]

>>56222697
You can't get groomed if you groom them first

[Anonymous No.]

just get a boyfriend, or lie about having one and they will stop.

[Anonymous No.]

>>56222722
This. Just remember to reject dumb ass requests. Set boundaries and stick to them. If they leave because you wont show your feet, oh well. Keep your dignity.

[Anonymous No.]

>>56222697
Just don't accept anything you're not comfortable with.

[Anonymous No.]

>>56222697
Say that you are asexual and aromantic. That they can profess their love all they want but you can never reciprocate.
Also never get baited into inviting them into your discord. Most groomers just bait out personal info that they can blackmail you with.

[Anonymous No.]

>>56222697
why are you worried? as shown by multiple past yabs on this board, you could literally cuck your audience live with your bf or husband and you'll still have a following

[Anonymous No.]

>>56222697
Tell them you have a boyfriend and that they should improve themselves

[Anonymous No.]

Improve yourself

[Anonymous No.]

>>56222697
Honest answer, stop streaming. No other methods will work

[Anonymous No.]

>>56222697
just walk away from the screen

[Anonymous No.]

>>56222697
it's part of the job until you get big enough to ditch them. we all did jobs we didn't like at some point. use 'reasons' to get them to give you lots of money.

[Anonymous No.]

>>56222830
>>56222722
If you don't accidentally doxx yourself this is the better options and you have nothing to be worried about. Groomers deserve to be fucked with

[Anonymous No.]

>>56222697
Pander to children and groom them

[Anonymous No.]

>>56222769
>>56222777
I dont. And im not gonna be breaking my character with personal infos
>>56222775
>>56222830
>>56222856
im still new at this. didnt accept any shady requests so far

[Anonymous No.]

>>56222697
stop browsing /vt/ and love me

[Anonymous No.]

>>56222697
outgroom them. you're the one in control.

[Anonymous No.]

>>56223079
>didnt accept any shady requests so far
Good, keep it that way. Give them an inch and they'll ask for a mile

[Anonymous No.]

Stop acting cute! Now Im gonna groom you!

[Anonymous No.]

>>56222697
you are supposed to groom them

[Anonymous No.]

>>56222697
channel? i'll chase them away for you

[Anonymous No.]

>>56223110
>>56223193
this. make them ur bitch

[Anonymous No.]

>>56223079
Then get one and make him become a vtuber too!

[Anonymous No.]

>>56223079
>>56222777(me)
then I have no quick solution for you. Lying about having one would have been the quickest fix for this problem.

[Anonymous No.]

>>56222697
Just make sure they can't find you and you have an escape.

[Anonymous No.]

>>56222697
Just say you have a BF and have a male voice appear in your stream every once in a while, you won't be able to use GFE to boost your numbers though

[Anonymous No.]

>>56223193
>>56223038
>>56223110
Any tips on how to countergroom? Is it like animal conditioning?
>>56223132
>>56223334
I tried doing all my opsecs. Thanks /asp/

[Anonymous No.]

>>56223426
you're in for a rude awakening.

[Anonymous No.]

Most of the advice points to getting into a relationship lol. Do you even have time for that?
Getting married is the better alternative btw.

[Anonymous No.]

>>56223426
>Any tips on how to countergroom? Is it like animal conditioning?
Men are easy, just be nice to them.
Set yourself boundaries you'll never cross, think about what you want out of personally interacting with fans and behave accordingly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>56223426
Depends.
Do you want to go down the path of Ayame and Veibae where you see your fans as ATMs and noombers?

[Anonymous No.]

>>56223426
If they ask for X for Y amount of compensation, extort the shit of that compensation

For example

>"Hey OP-chan, you are cute, show me your feet and I will give you 20 bucks"
How do you respond to this?
You can shut it down and call him a foot fag, or... you can go
>"20? I am not that cheap"
This way you make them think there is a chance of getting you into feet wiki, but not for that amount, eventually he will start increasing the value, let them, do not, I repeat, DO NOT give them a price, let him increase on his own, and never agree on a value
At some point, he will either offer you a stupid amount of compensation that you would be a fool to pass it on, or fuck off

[Anonymous No.]

>>56223426
your son has some disease and is constantly sick, you fight a lot with his father but you still agree to go out on dates with him, get drunk and end up having sex with him. you constantly talk trash about him. you're just a poor single mother who needs help. anyone not filtered by this is just an ATM.

[Anonymous No.]

>OP-chan wants advice on not getting groomed
>Is groomed into a groomer instead

[Anonymous No.]

I'm a 2view indie as well and people seem to think they're grooming me because they think I'll treat them differently if they give me their money lmao. I treat everyone equally, I just want people to watch me if they enjoy my content. It's easy to not get groomed, just don't pander to people even if they offer you money, do what you want to do not what others want.

[Anonymous No.]

>>56223762
The circle of life

[Anonymous No.]

>>56223762
it's groom or be groomed
such is the life of 2view indie

[Anonymous No.]

>>56223776
>she thinks she is not getting groomed
lmao

[Anonymous No.]

Im takinf a shot everytime i see the wird groom in tjos thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>56222697
Uncopple anything that can be traced back to your real identity from your streaming account, that includes usernames, jokes you made online that are easily accessible on public platforms, etc. and the milk those fuckers for all they're worth. Create a separate "private" Discord account and make them believe that they are grooming you when, in actuality, you are the one grooming them. Give them less and less attention over time as they either financially ruin themselves to the point of not being able to afford a means of communication with you anymore or they realise that they are the one who has been groomed all along before dropping you.
Or just get a male friend of yours to "accidentally" talk on stream and call him babe as he leaves if you aren't a GFE chuuba.

[Anonymous No.]

>>56223729
>Constantly talk trash about him
That is a hard bit to keep, she would need to keep a whole fucking script and bibble about all the shitty things this imaginary person did to her to keep bitching about on camera, it will also fuck up her numbers

[Anonymous No.]

>>56223858
They give me their money but they have no power over me. How the heck are they grooming me lmao?

[Anonymous No.]

>>56223881
grim_

[Anonymous No.]

>>56223925
kowai..

[Anonymous No.]

>>56223931
Wasnt there an abused wife indie chuuba?

[Anonymous No.]

>>56223961
You'll realise once you are dependent on the money some few whales give and they decide to leave. Happened plenty of times before where smaller chuubas literally begged their whales to come back in DMs after spending all their money and assuming the income stream would be consistent.

[Anonymous No.]

>>56223961
And what are they giving you money for?
Girl you are selling attention to lonely men, to keep those men as pay pigs you are doing what they want in one way or the other, even if you don't realize

[Anonymous No.]

>>56223426
>Any tips on how to countergroom?
join a groomer support network

[Anonymous No.]

>>56222697
Keep them at an arm's length and take their money you dumbo. Make sure your opsec is in order and they can't actually find out who you are.

[Anonymous No.]

>>56224027
Dependent on their money? I make about $70,000 a year from my day job which is already more than enough money because of how I live my lifestyle. Not going to become a full time streamer even if I was given the chance because I like having dental and healthcare lol.
>>56224061
I really don't have a need for the money, it's just nice to look at a video game and go "Oh that's basically free since I got donated $60" I don't need donations, the option is just there but if people all of a sudden stopped donating I don't really care.

[Anonymous No.]

>>56223110
Nenechi actually managed to do this. It's impressive but I am actually a bit worried for her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>56223925 (me)
Also, if they make requests, just get some nudes off the web and edit them a bit, maybe with AI filters if you don't know how. Edit them enough so that you can't trace them back to the original image, maybe even the background.
If you decide to go with this kinda thing, never give them what they ask for, even if it's someone else's picture, but give them as little as possible, drip feeding them while keeping them on the hook. See how long Belle Delphine went without any actual nudity? Just like that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>56224217
You don't have whales on your audience then
this will change when Mohamed from Qatar starts akasupa spamming your chat with enough zeroes to make you blush

Don't think you will be above this, even big chubas had this problem

[Anonymous No.]

>>56222697
I just want to love you...

[Anonymous No.]

>>56224125
thanks, I was trying to find this thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>56222697
Tell them to improve themselves.

[Anonymous No.]

demonic thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>56222697
I just want someone to talk to that doesn't have schizophrenia.

[Anonymous No.]

>>56224352
That is stupid anon

DO NOT fake nudes with random naked girl pics, some autist in your audience will recognize that bitch and will fuck you over, the bigger your audience the higher the chances
The fact you post that really boggles me too, are you forgetting that people from here and 8 fucking bullied Shia Le beouf silly flag from different locations simply by fucking looking at planes that flew kinda close to the camera and shit?
Autists are everywhere and they will find the original slut if you do that
Just don't promise nudes, just don't post them, and if you have, bitch you are fucking dumb, delete that shit now and hope no one ever fucking saved, otherwise, you will be like the one that cannot be named because I don't want a fucking 3 day ban from just kinda, but not mentioning her

[Anonymous No.]

>>56222697
Shiori?

[Anonymous No.]

>>56223629
>Men are easy, just be nice to them
Redebut already Nina, you lazy hag

[Anonymous No.]

>>56222697
Just don't DM any fans or let them DM you. If someone crosses a boundary warn them then ban them if needed. Be polite yet firm.

[Anonymous No.]

Guys, OP-chan is cuter than usual today.

[Anonymous No.]

>>56224788
I know, it kinda... kinda makes me want to groom her

[Anonymous No.]

>>56223762
It's dog groom dog world

[Anonymous No.]

>>56224754
Your advice is gay.
Don't warn. Don't be polite. Don't explain. Just ban everyone.

[Anonymous No.]

>>56224659
Who cares with a 2view? Shia is an actual celebrity and the idiots who ask for that kinda stuff in DMs don't even know what kinda piracy sites exist. You're saying this as if plenty of people aren't getting away with this kinda thing as we speak and it's pretty easy to keep your personal life close to 100% separated if you aren't retarded and talk about topics that give people leads to cross reference your different accounts. People keep talking about this shit like it was the hacker anonymous who did this as a vendetta and not a giant group effort to piss some people on the left off.

[Anonymous No.]

>>56224788
can't wait to find my new wife ~Nyo-ron~

[Anonymous No.]

>>56224352
When she did porn her audience fell right off. Keep dangling the carrot

[Anonymous No.]

>>56225044
Anon, it's easy as fuck to shove a pic into a img search and come back with results to it
Your only argument is that the audience is too dumb to realize that, yeah, ok, but what happens when one of her pay pigs is not that dumb, it is way too fragile of a plan to built anything on top of it in my opinion, but if you think that is ok
Sure, post pics of some one's holes on your DMs and claim it is you
It might never bite you back and you make tons of money out of paypigs, or you might become /vt/'s yab of the day for that evening as you loose your whales

[Anonymous No.]

>>56224991
Nah, that creates a shitty environment where people don't know what they can or can't say, eventually they just stop posting on chat from fear of the B& hammer, engagement goes down and the 2 view becomes a 1 view

[Anonymous No.]

>>56225448
This, it's an insane risk. Chances are your deranged oil baron is trading notes with himself and will notice this mole isnt like this. Avoid the schizo groomer bable about nudes altogether.

[Anonymous No.]

>>56225578
Theory of social darwinism applied to vtubing

[Anonymous No.]

>>56225448
My other point is that a 2view has nothing to lose anyway, even if that came out. There are people who still have an audience online after mass sexually assaulting. Even if the whales started complaining and accusing a small streamer of doing this, most viewers would just laugh at the dumbass who tried to pay for nudes, doubly so for getting scammed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>56223961
>They give me their money but they have no power over me
Even if they gave you a small fortune?

[Anonymous No.]

>>56222697
tell you have a bf

[Anonymous No.]

>>56225693
Anon, those people didn't fake nudes, they either posted nudes, or people claimed that they did/were in a sexual thing similar to it

Take the girl who people claimed that she got in an orgy at a con, she didn't, but that made every one talk about her
wether she was filled like a twinkie by 5 or her fans or not that day was irrelevant because nobody cares about that in a negative way as much as /vt/ likes to think
In fact she even got a boost in viewership after that
But notice something she didn't do, she didn't scam people, she didn't promise an orgy stream for members and then bounced, she didn't post fucking nudes around and claimed it was her
A lie can kill a career a lot more than a picture of your asshole online
As >>56225650 said, it takes one whale getting a bit smarter and all your income fucking vanishes, it is not worth the risk

[Anonymous No.]

Tell your simps that you are pregnant and you want them to be the father

[Anonymous No.]

>>56222697
Unironically get a decent paying job so you're not reliant on paypigs. My favorite 2view is an OL and doesn't lured into paypig influence.

[Anonymous No.]

>>56226106
What happens when 8 steps up for real?
What happens when 2 of those 8 starts to believe for real that they are the surrogate father?
What happens when 1 of those 2 doxes you and goes to your house expecting to be welcomed and to help with taking care of a baby that doesn't exist?

Y'all playing with fire and don't even realize

[Anonymous No.]

>>56222697
Just...dont be groomed?
Its not hard

[Anonymous No.]

>>56226203
Just get pregnant for realsies and have a baby, it doesn't take much convincing to get rawdogged
You know, for the bit

[Anonymous No.]

Keep a list of who donates. Not spread sheeting in the traditional sense, but rather as a watch list. If they start saying weird things after donations, nuke them out of your community. If they start nudging you to do things, nuke them. It will send the message to the others to be fucking cool.

[Anonymous No.]

>>56222697
First of all YOU are not streaming, your CHARACTER is streaming. Even the most open and intimate-seeming streamers are still presenting a character. If you're maintaining proper compartmentalizati9n between you and your character, grooming shouldn't be an issue.
Next, groomers don't respect the character, they just want to break it. Hell, half the guys here in this thread just want to stir up drama or validate some incel shit in their heads. Go ahead and consider things that fans might be interested in, but if it doesn't fit your character, don't do it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>56226144
What happens if he keeps adding zeroes to the end of those akasupas?

How long can your oshi keep up?
Eight zeroes? Nine?
How about twelve, Eighteen?
At some point she will break, everyone does.

[Anonymous No.]

refuse to interact with them in private. it's as simple as that. the rest of your fanbase will keep them in check in public for you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>56226406
>half the guys here in this thread just want to stir up drama
Hehe that's me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>56226279
Takes 9 months to cook a baby anon, she can't shit one out on demand just because Gerry the Groomer is at her door

[Anonymous No.]

>>56222697
You lie and lie and lie until you are big enough to pump and dump. But if you are retarded enough to ask this question then you are ngmi

[Anonymous No.]

>>56222697
Easy. Do a collab with a guy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>56226734
Sammy Simpington isn't asking for a baby, he is asking for pregnant

[Anonymous No.]

>>56226912
Sammy dick ain't gonna get hard if she got no belly

[Anonymous No.]

>>56224125
The rosemi reply is perfect

[Anonymous No.]

>>56222697
anon, male vtubers don't have groomers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>56223079
>I don't
You do have one, you're just not saying it, which is fine and the first step to keep groomers at a small distance. Pretending you don't have one will keep them engaged enough to not completely abandon you.
>>56223776
>>56224217
ok mel nekomata
>>56224454
Don't fall for it bro

[Anonymous No.]

>>56222697
Watch some documentaries on cults and their tactics. Should give you a good idea on how to keep control over the situation and not fall for any psycopaths trying to groom you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>56222697
is D4n and his gang trying to groom you again?

[Anonymous No.]

>>56223079
Go to the nearest upcoming animecon and rent a hotel room then invite them over, once you have a nice wholesome in-person private talk about boundaries they will see the light of reason and leave you alone.

[Anonymous No.]

>>56222697
first of all, your interaction should ONLY be everything on your public youtube chat / twitter feed etc. if you've already broken this rule then git groomed you fucking idiot, you deserved it. don't be in a discord with viewers, don't have DMs open, don't add them to Steam, no private channels. if they keep trying, that is actual harassment and you should scold/block them. no second chances, its not worth it.

that will clear up a majority of problems as now people at least have to say everything publicly. ofc there are people who will still creep publicly, but a lot of them are underage pajeet "pls bebe gib fone# show booba" that can be ignored easily.

so now you are left with "groomers" who are just lonely guys sending BFE SC like "you are sooo sweet babe i thought about you all day ;)", and to be honest, just farm them. it's part of your job. if you attracted them in the first place then you obviously aren't actively pushing them away with you character style. if it's stuff they wanna say publicly then just give them their "teehee thank you~" and move on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>56222697
it's not a bad thing as long as you keep all of it online, don't doxx yourself, don't meet them irl, no personal call, no personal information and shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>56227562
Did you hear? OP-chan got the 5 guys Burgers and Fries special at offpako-con

[Anonymous No.]

>>56222697
You are a vtuber, and it's your destiny to be groomed. Don't like it? Graduate bitch. Also, don't even think of getting a boyfriend while you are still a vtuber.

[Anonymous No.]

>>56222697
Just keep your internet identity and your IRL totally separated and nothing can hurt you

[Anonymous No.]

>>56222697
Are you a man? in which case faggot fuck off. Are you a women? In which case then i guess just show lead them on and never actually show anything. Its still mind of hoeish tho.

[Anonymous No.]

>>56222697
>>56227847
Worked for this 2view. If you are up for it, I am sure you can have all the attention you could want at cons.
https://files.catbox.moe/y6dwv9.png

[Anonymous No.]

>>56222697
I am going to love and support you and pretend you are my gf and you are going to like it

[Anonymous No.]

>>56224125
This reads like modern version of dostoevsky's crime and punishment and it's both amazing and scary

[Anonymous No.]

>>56222697
I literally scare them. I have a list of 2view groomers and they usually avoid me to the point they could be on a friends stream and disappear the moment my name is mentioned.
Every single one who tried to groom me got ignored into oblivion, and its not hard to tell who's a normal fan and who's trying to groom you

[Anonymous No.]

>>56227692
I don't think having a public discord is that bad just have a rule that if you get DMd they get permabanned.

[Anonymous No.]

>>56228463
>I don't think having a public discord is that bad
Disgusting

[Anonymous No.]

>>56228110
Name of 2 view?

[Anonymous No.]

What the fuck happened to this thread?

[Anonymous No.]

As others have said, aet boundaries, don't compromise, but do make sure that you indulge within those boundaries from time to time.
You do understand how those women who make fat bank on Onlyfans do it, right? Lure them in with the pictures (or in this case the model) and keep them locked by pretending to be their friend. This is the essense of making money off of vtubing, but in a more open/front facing sense.

[Anonymous No.]

>>56228668
Having a Discord that you moderate can help curb the forming of an independently acting group. Just don't show up that much and it shouldn't be a problem.

[Anonymous No.]

>>56228463
>that fan who followed you for 1 or 2 years
>used to see him in the chat every day, being normal
>suddenly starts with the discord DMs
>you can't bring yourself to ban him
>His long term strategy works even better

[Anonymous No.]

>>56228875
nice story, but very unlikely. Unless they are an actual psychopath they can't keep it in their pants for that long.

[Anonymous No.]

>>56228808
Whats the point of creating an official public discord if the chuuba barely shows up? Stream updates? Membership rewards? There are better alternatives for that than risking a groomcord... Just let the fans create their own discord its safer that way geez.

[Anonymous No.]

why do women take men's money if they want nothing to do with them?

[Anonymous No.]

How do you know when you've been groomed by your chuuba?

[Anonymous No.]

>>56229163
A more controlable spot of fan discussion and discourse. If you have a mod or two that you give the lightest amount of asspats to you that simps for you, you have free labor to watch over the discord and keep people in line. A bonus is that it's very easy to cut that person if they start getting pushy, demanding, or disobediant, because there will always be another simp who wants the very slight accolades of being your 'right hand man'.

[Anonymous No.]

>>56223079
you should accept a shady request.

[Anonymous No.]

>it's another LARP thread
you retards really will just believe anything, huh?

[Anonymous No.]

>>56229219
They just want money. Not something like https://youtu.be/rpmCU6h0JSQ happening to them

[Anonymous No.]

>>56229528
>If you have a mod or two
Stopped reading there. Ive seen mods in power trip, creating cliques and sharing doxx attempting to groom the talent. Cant trust the idea of a discord server.

[Anonymous No.]

>>56229163
A sense of community can work to trap casual fans and turn them hardcore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>56229919
Also a Kawaii fancord doxxed the talent

[Anonymous No.]

>>56222697
>>56229762

[Anonymous No.]

>>56229089
>Unless they are an actual psychopath
Are you aware of the average discord user?

[Anonymous No.]

>>56228875
Then warn him and if he doesn't listen ban him.

[Anonymous No.]

>pathetic self-poster
grim

[Anonymous No.]

>>56229163
You can control the narrative in your own discord. Stop any attempts at dox and harassment. Create a hugbox for yourself and make fans more parasocial. Also it's handy for twitter and stream alerts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>56222697
Male collabs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>56228697
PLAP-chan

[Anonymous No.]

>>56222697
just tell us where you stream. we'll come and fix it for you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>56222697
My body, my choice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>56222697
Wait. 2views get goslings too!?

[Anonymous No.]

>>56222697
hahahahahahahaha
hahahahahaha
are you serious?
who am I kidding
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[Anonymous No.]

>>56222697
Collab with a male, if they continue to follow you they are cucks and pose no real threat. Do this often to keep things on check.
Telling stream you have a bf might have similar results, but the schizo gets triggered harder, it's more dangerous.
I would advise you to stop vtubing/streaming if you are repulsed at the very idea of people being goslings. There's no actual way to prevent people from crushing on you, the internet + relative anonimity lets dudes be more bold than they are irl.

[Anonymous No.]

Damn. Imagine getting told by your waifu not to gosling for her.

[Anonymous No.]

DO NOT EVER REPLY TO DMS
NEVER
EVER
YOU WILL ALWAYS REGRET IT

If you never reply to messages you will be alright.
Biggest mistake for me, no matter how guilty or pressured you feel, NEVER REPLY.

[Anonymous No.]

>>56237746
Get a real job nigger

[Anonymous No.]

>>56237882
no

[Anonymous No.]

>>56237088
>he doesnt know

[Anonymous No.]

>not using your feminine wiles to keep gullible men in check
never gonna make it

[Anonymous No.]

>>56237746
ONLY REPLY
SEND THEM CUTE PHOTOS
GET THEM TO PAY FOR EVERY GAME
PUT UP A THRONES AND MAKE THEM PAY FOR EVERYTHING
GET COSPLAYS AND ITEMS AND THE GUY THAT PAYED FOR IT GET A PRIVATE PHOTO WITH THE ITEM OR COSPLAY HE BROUGHT YOU
CRY ON STREAM ABOUT HOW YOU ARE ABOUT TO GET EVICTED
HOW MISTREATED YOU ARE AT YOUR DAYJOB
TELL THEM YOU WANT A SHORT PAYED VACATION WITH THEM AND HAVE A COUPLE OF WEEKS GOING FROM ONE PAYED VACATION WITH A FAN TO THE NEXT
LET THEM TAKE OUT LOANS FOR YOU
LET THEM EAT CANS OF SOUP FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIVES FOR YOU
MAKE THEM PAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY

[Anonymous No.]

>>56238060
What the fuck is this shit?

[Anonymous No.]

>>56222697
You don't, you can't, if it bothers you ban them or stop streaming.

[Anonymous No.]

>>56222775
How do you groom your audience successfully?

[Anonymous No.]

>>56238060
>please draw me, you can do anything..

[Anonymous No.]

>>56222697
Then stop streaming or better yet get marry. I don't think if the "goslings" can take it as an entertainment, granted

[Anonymous No.]

>>56222697
You don't, you let it happen *wink* *wink*

[Anonymous No.]

Do a double check of your opsec every so often to be safe.

[Anonymous No.]

This is a depressing thread. Lonely groomers might be sad and pathetic but mercenary women discussing the best tactics to keep their paypigs at arms length whilst still siphoning their money disgust me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>56239173
>depressed
>for a tale as old as time

[Anonymous No.]

>>56239173
You disgust me anon. Go drown yourself with an concrete blocks around your neck, if you think trying to get close to vtubers with malicious intent by throwing money at them is okay and shouldn't be used to take away all they own.

[Anonymous No.]

>>56239173
Taking advantage of retarded people is never bad and should probably be encouraged.

[Anonymous No.]

>>56239403
Two wrongs doesn't make a right sister, before the internet gave you talentless whores a false sense of superiority getting this much attention and easy money from this many failed men would have had you selling yourself on a street corner, always remember that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>56239747
>>56238060
wrong file

[Anonymous No.]

>>56229762
Of course, this is why Mel Nekomata is still around and planning to redebut yet again with another AI Voice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>56229782
Then they don't deserve it.
Simple as

[Anonymous No.]

>>56222697
Say you're straight. They hate that because it destroys their yurishit fantasy. Also express interests in female weeb stuff like BL and otome and anime aimed at women. They hate when women are into stuff intended for women and not the same things males like. Should be easy to get rid of them this way. Good luck.

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>>56240387
Homobegging dumbass. People don't hate women lusting for male vtubers because they're straight but because it's a different man. They should be straight, for (you), the anonymous self insert character that is unequivocally male

[Anonymous No.]

>>56240847
you also hate non-vtuber women for liking male vtubers, don't come with this cope

[Anonymous No.]

>>56222697
Literally just don't have a discord and you will never be groomed

[Anonymous No.]

>>56241298
>non-vtuber women liking male vtubers
Such as? I wouldn't know any. And if it's about the hypothetical then no, it's a power difference in the same way we are removed from the girls on stream. But when they collab together they're on the exact same wavelength and must've also conversed in private

[Anonymous No.]

let's just break it down. this isn't about "grooming" she isn't a kid (i hope) this is "getting convinced to overstep your boundaries and do something you are uncomfortable with or detrimental to yourself". just be very clear about your boundaries both to your fans and to yourself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>56239173
kys groomer

[Anonymous No.]

>>56238712
>Be hag shotacon vtuber
>Create social account
>Get messages
>Ask for specific characteristics
>Are you a shota?
>Are you rich?
>Are your parents home?
>Yes, Maybe, No
>Good enough, verify sources
>Stalk, Seduce, Simp
>Meet irl
>Have sex
>Gaslight, Gatekeep, Girlboss
>Groomed
Many such cases.

[Anonymous No.]

>>56238060
fuck off

[Anonymous No.]

>>56229219
I don't want anything with my employer but I'll gladly take his money

[Anonymous No.]

>>56241767
I don't even have a discord faggot. What part of
>Lonely groomers might be sad and pathetic
makes you think I agree with the sad fucks trying to get a vtuber gf?
I pity them.

[Anonymous No.]

Are women so retarded they need help to NOT get groomed?

[Anonymous No.]

>>56242153
this. just say no how is grooming even real nigga just step away from the screen

[Anonymous No.]

It's free money, retard. Just groom them back for infinite money glitch

[Anonymous No.]

>>56240203
You are right anon. Just saw the twitter currently trying to sell the model. A leopard doesn't change her spots.

[Anonymous No.]

>>56242313
You're joking but it's true, it's not bullying. It relies on being psyoped into a relationshipped because you're not mentally developed enough

[Anonymous No.]

>>56242557
i'm joking because its true

[Anonymous No.]

>>56242557 (me)
goddamnit my proofreading reps...

[Anonymous No.]

>>56240387
>OP says she's straight and likes BL
>instantly becomes a 1vew
>quits vtubing after a week
Good idea

[Anonymous No.]

>>56223426
do you moderate/keep a list/ban profiles that are bothering you?
you should actually ask advice to other vtubers on twitter, they will be more friendly and have more insight than /here/

[Anonymous No.]

>>56222697
Don't have a fan groomcord, you dumb retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>56222697
Just let it happen, let people love you

[Anonymous No.]

a single male collab will genocide all goslings

[Anonymous No.]

>>56222697
The real answer is that you probably aren't interesting or cute enough for anyone to gosling over.

[Anonymous No.]

>>56237088
they have always been the primary target. If you think about it is kind of stupid to gosling for a popular one. When people lose their shit because Mori or Kroni collab with men like 80% of them making a huge deal about it are just trolls having fun making the world burn. When their numbers go down you might think it's because there are a lot of unicorns but nah. That's just the influence of groupthink in action. The mob mentality.

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>>56222697
Did you get the answer you were looking for 2viewanon?

[Anonymous No.]

>>56222697
Post channel.

[Anonymous No.]

>>56222697
Don't have a fan discord. Don't respond to private messaging on twitter or anywhere else. Do not communicate with anyone outside of your stream unless it is for business reasons (vtuber collabs, art commissions ect)

[Anonymous No.]

>>56222697
UOOOOH GET PREEEEGNAAAANT GIVE BIIIIRTH AAAAAAAAAAAAA SEEEEX

[Anonymous No.]

>>56228438
>"Am I a groomed paypig or have I the right?"

[Anonymous No.]

>>56238876
who would want to groom a girl who openly has sex with dogs

[Anonymous No.]

>>56222697
Why do you think people watch 2views?

[Anonymous No.]

>>56222697
accept it, if you want to be a successful vtuber you have to create a parasocial ritual with your viewerbase where they replace having a girlfriend and wife with you and where you replace having a husband and kids with them

If you aren't willing to do this just stop streaming immediately and make video content that appeals to womens interests

[Anonymous No.]

>>56237088
If you want to actually date a vtuber this is your highest chance

[Anonymous No.]

>>56250710
Damn, that's hot.

[Anonymous No.]

Tell them you already have a boyfriend (me) and you will discourage most of these guys. If you find one who's persistent, milk them dry but don't actually deliver anything.

[Anonymous No.]

>>56251132
https://streamable.com/vjx0bq

[Anonymous No.]

>>56242153
>Are women so retarded
Yes

[Anonymous No.]

>>56251365
Where do I get a dog fucker gf?

[Anonymous No.]

>>56228697
marimarien, but she's a mid 3view though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>56251495
dog parks
white vtubers (female)

[Anonymous No.]

>>56222697
Don't join fan discords
Only accept business related PMs

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>>56239173
>women
I am a man and I say Milk'em dry
If you are dumb enough to send an akasupa, you are dumb enough to be reversegroomed into findom and you deserve anything that will happen to you

[Anonymous No.]

>>56223554
Yeah to me

[Anonymous No.]

>>56240847
You're proving my point: men hate it when women are straight. Also what the FUCK does this have to do with homo begging? Talk about mind broken.

>>56242153
More like men are so horny and desperate for any female to acknowledge their existence to the point where it becomes creepy, so it's better to scare you pigs off than deal with you at all. GFE yurifags are a level of crazy that isn't worth it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>56250960
No you don't you retarded desperate moid. Not everyone has the patience to deal with your mental illness.

[Anonymous No.]

Groom them back

[Anonymous No.]

Shut up and let me groom and goom to you.

[Anonymous No.]

i can help you, but first i need you to post your channel and open your dms
*wink*

[Anonymous No.]

I think we scared off OP-chan

[Anonymous No.]

>>56222697
Let me love you!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>56222697
>Mel pic
This better not be braphog and if it is go fuck yourself

[Anonymous No.]

>>56227870
Hello groomerchama

[Anonymous No.]

>>56222697
Welcome to the hellish part of 2views. You either breakthrough and reach 3views so they will fuck off or become irrelevant that they move on to the next new 2view they can groom. There is no escape.

[Anonymous No.]

>>56229219
They want to entertain you, it's not anyone's fault that you are too autistic and schizo to understand that this is where it ends

[Anonymous No.]

>>56241866
why did i have to grow up///

[Anonymous No.]

i am a 4view male vtuber, you can collab with me if you want to push away those groomers

[Anonymous No.]

>>56222697
Close your discord server, problem solved.

[Anonymous No.]

i feel like poeple here secretly want to be a woman's play toy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>56222697
It's too late, they know where you live and will abduct you and place you in a dungeon where you will be forced to stream from for the rest of your life.

[Anonymous No.]

>>56222697
Post your link

[Anonymous No.]

>>56278544
This. There is ZERO reason to have Discord or any other social media beyond Twitter (with DMs turned off).

[Anonymous No.]

>>56222697
Let me groom you instead, im a healthy Japanese business man with who just wants someone to love...and rape eventually.

My advice is to tell them your fat, no one wants to groom some ugly pig

[Anonymous No.]

>>56222697
That will sound harsh but graduate or live with it. Wellcome to public personality job, you didn't read the description?

[Anonymous No.]

>>56222697
>How do you stop goslings from trying to groom you?
Kayfabe HARD

[Anonymous No.]

>>56278544
>>56281144

I regret making a discord server so much but I can't afford to delete it since I make my living from streaming and I cannot lose one single sub or I'm going homeless.

It's so fucking over.

[Anonymous No.]

>>56288462
only fans

[Anonymous No.]

>>56281497
That's also how to downgrade yourself to a 1view.
The one viewer is yourself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>56262202
>what the FUCK does this have to do with homo begging?
Sisters are really bad at hiding holy shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>56262202
>It's better to scare all men off
And then lose your whole fanbase? I don't get it. Why are you in this business then to begin with? If you can't handle the fact that 99% are straight men then look for another profession.
Is this seriously what you tell yourself to justify being an asshole to fans?
You are a streamer, you are the one providing a service you spoiled bitch. They don't have to serve you, you have to serve them and in turn they'll reciprocate. But if you are waiting for your fans to serve you, it's not going to make you likeable.
But obviously you don't care about any of this, you are just in it for the quick buck. Well turns out this isn't so easy, you can't just be a lazy cunt and expect the money to passively roll in like that

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>>56222697
This hurts, believe me, but SAY NO. And im talking you from experience, if he/she do something weird tell him/her he's being a dumbass

[Anonymous No.]

>>56288462
And get a job plz, streaming costs, A LOT

[Anonymous No.]

>>56224217
Bullshit. Nobody becomes a streamer if they already have a good paying job.

[Anonymous No.]

>>56293455
Why can you immediately tell when a post is written by a woman?

[Anonymous No.]

>>56293455
>this hurts, believe me
No, I don't believe for one second that this hurt a callous person like you

[Anonymous No.]

>>56294147
"Hey, Tbh I do not make that kind of content, sorry"

Is that fucking hard you crybaby? I've been parasocial, I had a rapist harass me, I've seen both sides of the story of parasocialism and it's that easy:

a person who does not respect the streamer is because they do not have the manners, and that's it, you can teach them, but being on the fucking 4chan forum I prefer to just talk like that directly because it's more direct for someone to answer me "oh, but the groomer continues :"( sob sob".

[Anonymous No.]

>>56241866
Can a manlet pass as shota? Just out of curiosity...

[Anonymous No.]

>>56294668
No, you can do anything you want, but don't expect people to be nice to you if you aren't nice first. You are the one providing the service, you need to do the first step. The fans are the consumers of your service. They will reciprocate when you're nice but expecting them to serve you first is entitled. You will passively foster the fanbase you want over time anyway if you behave the way you want.
Besides, how do you get groomed as an adult, is this just a blanket term women use for any kind of sexual harassment? Grooming is raising someone in a way to be in a relationship with when they grow up. You can't "groom" adults like that.

[Anonymous No.]

Tomoe

[Anonymous No.]

>>56295036
What the heck did you read anon, because
> im polite on stream
> nice person
> I play with my viewers, things they recommend to me and I genuinely have fun
> got raped by a person, in real life, when I was 13 and streaming helps me with my PSTD
> for that reason im not lewd, looking for an audience who make fun of me
> If someone asks me for something I dont want I told him in private that I dont like those stuffs

My english is very broken desu, but I find myself like a normal streamer and just that.
And what the hell with the last paragraph? you have a stroke or...?

[Anonymous No.]

>>56222697
Question:
What if said person is looking for friends......and perhaps, wants to be friends with you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>56295371
WHY IT SAYS DESU I NEVER TYPED THAT FUCKING CHRIST

[Anonymous No.]

>>56224024
hot, do you have her name?

[Anonymous No.]

>>56295831

[Anonymous No.]

>>56295371
I think we might have read into different implications here. And my last paragraph was directly referring to this discussion, wdym? How do you get groomed as an adult?

[Anonymous No.]

>>56293455
>>56294668
>>56295371
PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP STUPID FEMANON GET PREGNANT GET PREGNANT GET PREGNANT GET PREGNANT GET PREGNANT PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP

[Anonymous No.]

>>56295438
How new?

[Anonymous No.]

>>56295924
Nigger what the fuck

[Anonymous No.]

>paypiggies this
>counter-grooming that
why are w*men like this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>56222697
Unfortunately this will happen as long as you keep pretending to be a girl. Too bad being a girl is the only way to be successful as a Western vtuber.

[Anonymous No.]

>>56224024
>>56295924
But we already have Shondo happily doing that

[Anonymous No.]

>>56295371
Kill yourself

[Anonymous No.]

>>56296529
Because
I
Have
Never
Said
She
Was
Groomed

Just that she have a groomer because literally call his viewer like that

[Anonymous No.]

>>56300448
Go first you dumbass and dont waste your mom's house

[Anonymous No.]

>>56301387
ESL sister, read what the thread is called again. It's asking how not to get groomed, and you responded to that with your take.
You didn't address my question, do you women even know what you mean when you talk about grooming?

[Anonymous No.]

>>56240387
>>56244762
>>56262202
Well let's see what one of the most successful vtubers out there has to say on the matter:
https://youtu.be/_6mtHldyY5E

[Anonymous No.]

>>56301490
For what i get grooming is for someone who dress well.
And idc how people call their problem, because let's be real his 2 viewers are defenseless. But sometimes to people it's not that easy and thinks if they do something the viewer dont like he's going to get mad and burn you.

So yeah I really dont fucking care and less without etymology

[Anonymous No.]

>>56222697
> Take their money
> Don't take their word
Trust no one. Not even /vt/

[Anonymous No.]

>>56302122
*especially* not /vt/