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Seriously, how are their numbers so bad? Pic related is Song Mia who couldn't even crack 160 views on a VOD after 12 hours. They make NijiEN look like freaking Hololive members for Christ's sake. Does it even make any sense for AnyColor to keep them around?

>> No.5615466

>>5615385

playing the long game

>> No.5615590
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5615590

>>5615385
koreans don't care about vtubers. they'd rather watch their own version which are PNGtubers called Dullahans (bc theyre "headless"). nijisanji also does literally nothing to promote KR
notice how the ones adopting more english in their streams have an increase of viewers all of a sudden, chiho and hari notably
their top talents all do streams in JP: yuya (RIP), bora, roha
yet they aren't graduated despite pulling some of the lowest numbers in nijisanji currently. kiru has double digit viewers consistently.
they are also the branch with the highest amount of graduations in ratio to how many already exist, nearly half the graduations were due to military service, thanks to nijisanji not caring that they were up for service 5 months after debut
i don't think anycolor cares that they pull low numbers, and they'll continue to be this way, pandering to non koreans to pull more viewers, or sticking to korean and never growing

>> No.5615599

>>5615385
Please... stop bullying...

>> No.5615622

>>5615590
>koreans don't care about vtubers.
The recent influx of koreans appearing in HoloEN's streams says otherwise.
and also videos like these
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3taGkYGY-c

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5615697

>>5615622
yeah, because ame got featured on the news and people are going over to look
nothing to do with nijiKRs stagnant growth

>> No.5615715

>>5615385
You're using twitch viewer when in youtube they surpass those numbers much more

>> No.5615758

i'm genuinely impressed that you go through all the trouble of finding vod views from twitch of a new NijiKR just to shitpost

>> No.5615799

Why are holobronies this obsessed with shitposting absolutely anything related to Niji?

>> No.5615820

>>5615590
>koreans don't care about vtubers.
Just like this chumbuddy said >>5615622 that's not true at all. I've been seeing lots of Koreans in Gura's streams since forever. They obviously are into it, but for some reason don't watch their girls. I know nothing about the KR side so I can't comment on the why.

>> No.5615840

>>5615820
>why
>>5615697
https://youtu.be/0faz0n6fevM

>> No.5615942

>>5615840
>I've been seeing lots of Koreans in Gura's streams since forever.
So it's not that segment that had anything to do with it. Gura even responds to their SC's in Korean when she can. They're a tangible presence in her streams.

>> No.5616086

>>5615799
Imagine being this delusional that anything niji was posted by a holofag

>> No.5616139

>>5616086
This board is 95% holobronies and Niji's fans stay mostly on /jp/. OP already gave himself away as a holobrony by mentioning hololive in the same sentence.

>> No.5616175

>>5615385
The issue is that theres way too fucking many of them
You cant expect all of them to pull the exact same number

>> No.5616240

>>5615942
Wait, Gura speaks Korean?

>> No.5616285

>>5616240
No. She uses a translator for common phrases like "thank you" and so on. She has always been like this, very kind to her supporters and viewers. She even learned a few Russian phrases for her RU audience.

>> No.5616388

>>5615385
Anon your Korean indie on Twitch has to take MONTHS to get these numbers

>> No.5616472
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5616472

>>5615697
As a result, Nabi got raided by them as well to the point she has to make a twitch channel just for them since she still wanted to the Japanese audience on YouTube

>> No.5616597

>>5615385
Well in any case, auditions for Wave 6 are currently on-going.........so the KR program will still be around =)
https://twitter.com/NIJISANJI_KR/status/1385113131492331524

>> No.5618118

>>5615697
I wonder what's the news is about like NijiKR were a bad news last year but not enough to beat holosearchers last year?

>> No.5618278

>Be nijisanji
>Have dedicated korean branch
>Can't break into the local market adn your only success comes from appealing to the JP audience

>Be hololive
>don't even have a korean branch
>Break into the korean market on accident without even trying

How does he do it?

>> No.5618292

There are people they think that Korean nerd culture is perfectly compatible with Japanese one, but actually no.
Sometimes elite Koreans follow the Japanese way and achieve the fame, but those are minority.

>> No.5618350

>>5618278
Same mindset as TW I think, local speaking vtuber are cringe for them

>> No.5618393

>>5615590
>>5618278
So basically the “nijisanji” brand is a massive debuff

>> No.5618445

>>5618278
If I can understand the person I'm watching then they are SHIT.

>> No.5618685

>>5618278
iirc Botan tried to learn chinese to pander the chinks before the taiwan yabe, but somehow after that drama, she managed to capture the russians without even trying

The EU and the spics are the only free market left for vtubers right?

>> No.5618759

>>5618278
Still can't believe got a boost in the korean market because of a shitpost

>> No.5618762

>>5618685
The spics have attached themselves to Nene and Coco. Well, just Nene now I guess.
EU is kinda spread all over the place. kiara has a decent amount of penetration into that market, and so does Ina and Watame, but there's no large collection of them mostly due to timezone issues.

>> No.5618889

>>5616472
iirc her test twitch stream had over 1k viewers with chat being almost exclusively korean

>> No.5619134

>>5618889
Damn, that’s a lot

>> No.5619782

>>5616139
If 95% of the board is "holobrony" and they are all "obsessed" with shitposting about niji then it sounds like you need to get fucking used to it then.

>> No.5620810

>>5615622
a more better way to put it is koreans don't want korean vtubers
they are autistic about it and think it's a japanese thing and those that do it are race traitors, while gladly consuming japanese vtubers

>> No.5620849

>>5615590
>thanks to nijisanji not caring that they were up for service 5 months after debut
that makes no sense

>> No.5620851

>>5618278
koreans are self hating assholes and obsessed with western culture

>> No.5621091

>>5618393
Nijisanji brand is a small buff. They’d probably be 10 view streamers without it.
By no means are you going to be able to make it a full time job unless you become one of the top talents though.

>> No.5621147

>>5615385
That's a twitch vod uploaded to youtube. Most people watched it live.

>> No.5621312

>>5615385
Seems like they also have twitch channel, and they doesn't dual stream because twitch no longer allows it. Probably because korean only familiar with twitch as streaming platform.

>> No.5621346

>>5621147
Oh wait it's a twitch vod?

>> No.5621493 [DELETED] 

https://www.twitch.tv/songmia2434/clip/SparklySplendidMarrowKreygasm-R_qoBh_6S4K7vfOJ

>> No.5621585

>>5620810
We don't faggot

>> No.5622429

>>5615385
Simple, back then, the only reason you as a JP Vtuber company would set up international branches was just to suck up any potential markets without really giving much thought to raising or promoting those talents. Then Hololive made EN and most JP Vtuber companies including Niji realized the potential of branching out and actually putting effort in hiring good international talents. KR is just suffering from the effects of those earlier decisions as they aren't growing a Vtuber market in Korea so much as they are just catering to the fairly small Vtuber fan community there.

Currently NijiEN is doing much better than KR and ID because this time Niji made sure to actually try and get decent talents, but even they are doing HoloID numbers at the moment so it's gonna be a slow climb.

>> No.5622520

>>5621312
>>5618889
Seema like the recipe to crack KR is going to twitch, more NijiKR local fanbase feeling comfy there than in youtube for some reasons

>> No.5622578

>>5615385
Their management is actually dogshit. This is because Niji incorporated another company and this company is handling them. Every NijiKR that graduated shit talked management on the way out. Also there is a reason Bora isn't streaming right now.

>> No.5622871 [DELETED] 

>>5615622
800k viewed, Wtf. Nijikek lied to me that the Korean isn’t interested in vtuber. Rather, they are not interested in Nijisanji vtuber.

>> No.5622922
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5622922

Because their chance at a break out success spent 8 months nerfing herself only to reveal that not only can she speak English but she can speak English extremely well on top of knowing Japanese.

>> No.5623053

>>5615622
>800k viewed
>1400 comments all in Korean
Wtf, Nijikek lied to me that the Korean isn’t interested in vtuber. Rather, they are not interested in Nijisanji vtuber

>> No.5624469

>>5615590
>i don't think anycolor cares that they pull low numbers
Boy I sure wish they had universally applied this to everyone.

>> No.5624744

>>5622578
ummm source?

>> No.5624800

>>5623053
tbf most koreans watch jp vtubers they don't watch their own

>> No.5624880

>>5616472
>>5620810
Nabi did two Korean streams which made the gooks come out and the whole thing started to snowball from there. How would you know?

>> No.5624918

>>5624744
Bora's mengen.

>> No.5624920

>>5624880
Nabi is actually doing a guerilla Twitch stream with an artist friend and pulling 1k+, chat is entirely KR bros https://www.twitch.tv/nabinya

>> No.5624980

>>5624800
Assuming they endlessly bitch about them in private but still shill out for merch, memberships and superchats, this is the most Korean thing possible and I 100% believe it.

>> No.5625037

>>5624920
Yes, since she started to speak Korean, they woke up and never left, but mostly on twitch.

>> No.5625042

>>5624918
>mengen
nah i don't care, i just wanna know what she's saying in korean so i can check

>> No.5625139

To be fair, you prob picked the nijikr with fewer subs from all of them

>> No.5625192

Does Bora even count? Doesn't she stream mainly in Japanese?

>> No.5625337

>>5622578
I thought it was well known that Nijisanji doesn’t actually manage their foreign branches?
It’s all handled by a third party.

>> No.5626358

>>5623273

>> No.5626437

>>5622520
I think Twitch is just more popular in KR when it comes to streaming

>> No.5626746

>>5615385
>>5626437
Korea's main streaming platforms are AfreecaTV and KakaoTV, Twitch is a distant third, Youtube is a distant fourth.

Basically, anyone who streams primarily in Korean are double debuffed unless they simulcast or they are some chick with big boob implants trying to attract foreigner K-pop coomers and stans.

Hololive is getting some KR audience because it's the Japanese thing popular with foreigners whatever KR audience they're getting is still a pittance compared to what your average streamer gets on Afreeca.

>> No.5626826
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5626826

They are lovers.

>> No.5626882
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5626882

HARI IS CUTE

>> No.5626900

>>5615385
They are welcome in the NijisanjiEN thread love and UNITY!

>> No.5627511

>>5625337
Nigga no one knows anything on this fucking board even for Hololive

>> No.5628715

>>5620810
It's not about race traitors. Most korean men are incels and see Japanese vtubers as pure anime waifus while Korean vtubers are just e-thots hiding behind an avatar. They actually see the Korean girls all over in real life and often know their roommates from camwhore sites and soft-camwhore ones like Twitch/Afreeca/etc. It's literally the same shit that made EOPs not trust English vtubers until HoloEN, because unless you have actual credentials like Nabi no one will respect you as a former e-thot transitioning to join the next internet fad for attention.

>> No.5629594

>>5622429
>Currently NijiEN is doing much better than KR and ID because this time Niji made sure to actually try and get decent talents, but even they are doing HoloID numbers at the moment so it's gonna be a slow climb.
"Decent talents"? Fuck off. ID and KR have a lot of good people on there.

>> No.5629776

>>5628715
Ironic, because Japanese vtubers are mostly from NND and the like and many Japanese have the same view about Japanese vtubers (but curiously not western ones). Or do you think there's another reason why there's a significant JOP population watching HoloEN?

>> No.5629939

>>5629776
Not him but where are you getting the idea that the JOPs watching HoloEN are distinct from those watching HoloJP?

>> No.5629974

>>5622429
More like they started dumping money into a branch. I don’t recall Nijisanji running a huge ad campaign for the other foreign branches but the EN one.

>> No.5630015

>>5618685
Personally I'm waiting for Nijisanji to enter the greatest as yet untapped market and finally find success in Nijiria.

>> No.5631937

>>5618278
S rank luck is no joke

>> No.5635116

>>5618685
maybe because Botan is a FPS specialist and the Russians love their FPS games

>> No.5635340

>>5618685
Brazil has a good numbers of weebs out there, though you have to ask if pandering to the monkeys is a good idea.

>> No.5636040

too irrelevant except for bora. i wouldnt be surprised if it was gone. bora is pretty much a jp member at this point and easily can move to niji jp

>> No.5636547

>>5615385
>1 hour stream
>100 views
yikes

>> No.5636664

>>5618278
The gooks just hated themselves for some reason.

>> No.5636701

>>5629974
Honestly I am not really sure where the idea that is a huge ad campaign comes from.

>> No.5636778

>>5636701
For example this indie vtuber
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QszYxjf12d0
goes through how much she spent on ads and the views she got for it. She is talking about getting millions of views on videos she spent less than $10k advertising budget on.

>> No.5637484

>>5615590
give me more lore on these dullahans, any worth watching?

>> No.5637871

>>5636040
So irrelevant that most of the members have more than 100 viewers. Anycolor seems totally fine with the branch as it is, otherwise they wouldn't put more members and invest in it

>> No.5640680

>>5615385
south korea is a dead country north should just invade them

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