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Special Championship Edition

What is /asp/?
/asp/ is a thread for vtubers to give and receive advice related to vtubing.

>Should I stream on Twitch or YouTube?
Most people would recommend against streaming on YouTube if you don't have an established subscriber base from making videos.

>Is there an audience for X?
Would you watch someone do X?
Is someone already doing X?

>What video editor should I use for editing clips?
DaVinci Resolve if you don't feel like spending money, otherwise use Vegas Pro.

Open company auditions:
V&U (ending Aug 17): https://twitter.com/VNUofficial/status/1688373561482993664
Yume+ (ending Aug 25): https://twitter.com/YumePlusEN/status/1683884706192928771
IdolES (ending Aug 31): https://www.idol-company.com/auditiones
IdolEN (ending Sep 6): https://www.idol-company.com/auditionen
Brave: https://bravegroup.co.jp/audition_en/
Hololive (Open indefinitely): https://audition.hololivepro.com/en

Useful links:
General: https://pastebin.com/AJLkFrGK
Op-Sec: https://mauthedoog.medium.com/21-privacy-tips-vtubers-need-to-know-ce93082cd166
Twitter growth: https://controlc.com/9eba2fbc
What to avoid: https://pastebin.com/vbp6qEdt

Previous thread: >>55775586

>> No.55830943

I want to rim Denpa's asshole

>> No.55831088

I'm not keeping a thread alive on a friday night

>> No.55831120

I'm trying to come up with a character concept, if anyone can spare some advice I'd really appreciate it. I want to do a mommy/aunt type of high elf but I feel like the elf concept by itself is kind of basic. Is there anything I should add to give it a more unique flair?

>> No.55831189

>>55831120
futa mommy elf with a huge bulge under her clothes that hide a massive horse cock

>> No.55831206

>>55831120
I think you first need to consider this: Who are you and what is your personality? High kayfabe characters are absolutely exhausting unless your personality reflects it or it's someone you are actively trying to be.

Are you a mommy/aunty type? Or do you want to change your personality to be that kind of person?

>> No.55831565

>>55831206
I'm a literal big sister and I have maternal aspects myself, yeah. I don't necessarily plan on playing a character. I definitely have a hag voice (I even posted my voice here several days ago and got people saying I would be a hag-type character). I guess if I were to add on my personality I'm kind of menhera, actually autistic, and a bit schizo (akin to Shondo).

>> No.55832026

>>55830943
Do you think she's fat?

>> No.55832048

>>55831565
Then go with it.
Generally speaking the shit you slap on top of it isn't relevant especially for females
Make a character you like the look of, remember to make it motherly so big hips and bigger tits.

>> No.55832189

>>55831120
Read Ane Naru Mono, watch some of the Skebe Elf hentais. You'll get a good feel for the archetype.
I would personally advise to throw in some defined abs as an accent, but I'm biased

>> No.55832316

>>55831565
Don't listen to the mommyfag. Older sister is underserrved. Also, keep in mind that "wow wacky menhera" is a hard cointoss between funny and insufferable

>> No.55832481

Is there anything more pathetic than a male vtuber? Who do you appeal to? You're not cute, you're not entertaining, no one wants to hang out with you. Girls are cute, girls are entertaining, we want to hang out with girls. If you're a male reading this I suggest you kys.

>> No.55832560

>>55831565
Seldea has a sexo design that's almost elven. Some smug resting bitch face elf mommy would be excellent.
Drill hair or dead mother hairstyle along with a lavish belly dancer outfit and abs.
Excuse me as I go jerk one out to this fantasy....

>> No.55832613

>>55831565
for the love of god if you go for an elf character at least don't make your theme related to nature/flora and your colors green or white, use your imaginations like for example a steam-punk theme or cyber-punk, there are already hundreds of mommy elfs vtubers with big breasts that wear white and laurel wreaths

>> No.55832620

Is there anything more based than a male vtuber? Who wouldn't want to play with your anime bro? Especially if you're cute, and I'm sure you have your homies who find you entertaining and want to hang out with you. Boys are cute, bros are entertaining, and we want to hang out with both. If you're a male reading this, I suggest you lift some then press that "Start Streaming" button.

>> No.55832668

>>55832620
Seriously, stop multiplying garbage spam

>> No.55832698

>>55832613
shit I meant laurel crown, no idea why the fuck I called that a laurel wreath

>> No.55832886

>>55832613
Yeah, I definitely didn't want anything to do with nature. Mostly because it doesn't really resonate with me on a personal level, but also because like you said, there's already hundreds out there. I'll keep thinking of fashion concepts and different aesthetics. Thanks!

>> No.55833111

>>55832668
No, I'll keep posting encouragements just in case a new bro chuuba passes by. Gotta look out for my future homies.

>> No.55833421

>>55832026
Only thing that's fat is my cock

>> No.55833881

>>55831565
this is a tranny, i remember the voice post

>> No.55834182

>>55833881
I hope so

>> No.55835310

Where streams

>> No.55835407

>>55832189
>Ane Naru Mono

Good taste.

>> No.55835453

>>55831120
Elves are always good. We need more elves. Preferably with behemoth sized tits.

>> No.55836450

You don't need me to tell you why you don't want the coomer audience. They'll tell you on their own.

>> No.55837636

T_T

>> No.55837958

>>55837636
Cheer up

>> No.55838626

Should I stop directly @ing people that I raid in my post-stream tweets? I've noticed lots of people do the @/name thing to not ping them, but I personally like being pinged for it at least.

>> No.55838886

>>55838626
If they're roughly the same size as you or smaller, it's fine. I think it might be considered bad manners as a small streamer to raid into someone really big then ping them on twitter like that though.

>> No.55839685
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55839685

Master Duel!! WOOOO
https://www.twitch.tv/keitaroch

>> No.55840268

>>55838626
I don't Tweet that I've @ raided people, they already know I've done it and it's a service from me to them. I thank people that raided me though on Twitter.

>> No.55840294

>>55838626
Yeah, worrying about same too. Direct @ is more neat - to make profile visible. But same time I am so careless with notifications sometimes (because headempty and iforgor moment) so I almost feel embarrassed for pinging peoples8

>> No.55841334

>>55838626
Why would you do it in the first place?
That shit is annoying.

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55841597

In 15 minutes we're back for more mech mashing madness! Today will be Armored Core: Project Phantasma, the expansion to AC1!
https://www.twitch.tv/harumizukich

>> No.55843072
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55843072

>> No.55844029

None of you will make it. You're all ugly, dumb and boring. Not me though. I'm going to make it. I'm pretty, intelligent and interesting.

>> No.55844515

>>55844029
I don't remember writing this post

>> No.55844992

Is there any way to record a game at full resolution while not having it at full resolution? I only have one monitor and watching anime will make Runescape grinding much easier

>> No.55845012

>>55838626
I don't @ people I raid into, only ones that raid into me. It's a thanks

>> No.55845684

can't believe it's hampters second stream and he's already got 400 viewers.. so proud of him

>> No.55846254

>>55845684
God damn

>> No.55846364

>>55845684
What happened?

>> No.55846522

>>55845684
he's GMI

>> No.55846874

>>55845684
Link?

>> No.55846877

>>55845684
once again proving that being a male is not a debuff

>> No.55846940

>>55846874
https://www.twitch.tv/keitaroch

>> No.55846971

>>55845684
100 followers in 2 streams wtf am I doing wrong

>> No.55847115

>>55845684
has more followers than people who've been streaming for months now

>> No.55847193
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55847193

>>55845684
>male
>png
>hoodie and beanie
Single-handedly proves that model absolutely does not matter as long as either you or your content are interesting enough. A true inspiration.

>> No.55847244

>>55845684
the power of good design

>> No.55847360

>>55847193
>Playing YGO on a Friday

Content?
Dude pulled a SSR+ gacha roll with a random raid. The Model and Voice is a buff.

>> No.55847456

>>55846364
He got raided.
Once again proving that the biggest buff is not gender, voice or appearance.
It's connections.

>> No.55847472

You people act like you've never had a big raid befo... actually, never mind.

>> No.55847733

Raids mean nothing if you don't have the personality to hold them, as we've had many /asp/ies be raided only to immediately lose them all.

>> No.55847736

>>55847456
Stuff like this is the reason why I hate women so much.

>> No.55847823

>>55847456
by who?

>> No.55847877

>>55847733
A single raid can push you out of both 0 viewers dead zone and also give you enough follows for affiliate. It's a newbie quickstart, which is perfect for hampter

>> No.55847982

>>55847733
Retention right after a raid isn't a good measure either since most are lurkers when the number is that big. The real number to watch is how many people come back to the next stream, or a stream that's not the current game.

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55848125

>>55835407
I own a physical softcover of the first chapter in Nipponese

>> No.55848142

>>55847823
someone huge

>> No.55848160

>>55845684
surpassed everyone in "gen 5" and almost everyone in gen 4 in two streams, what a legend

>> No.55848763

>>55845684
he has more fans than people in gen 3 and 4

>> No.55848876

my debut is this upcoming wednesday, i am starting with a png while i wage to get money for a rigger and i already have a few people happy to see me due to my niche. i have befriended a couple of other vtubers and i'm very happy because everyone is so supportive and i wish i could tell them how much i appreciate them without sounding like a fag. maybe i'm "ngmi" but in my mind i already did. i hope i can live up to expectations of the couple of people who'll be there.

>> No.55849080

i like how people here see someone doing well and the first thing they are gonna do is use it as ammo against everyone else who isn't doing as well. pretty sad

>> No.55849375

>>55849080
I hate this place and I hate each and every one of you.
You're all responsible for your awful numbers, and the reason you're stuck in 1ccv is because you're so negative noone wants to be around your menhera asses.

>> No.55849825
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>>55848125
I own this thing.

>> No.55849931

>>55849825
I'm more interested in your figurine

>> No.55850027
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>>55849931
It's this one
>but I lost the chess pieces while moving

>> No.55850051

>>55849825
>>55849931
I am also more interested in Shiro

>> No.55850227

https://voca.ro/1c1iQTGWIUmg
Do people like this type of voice , or is it just annoying?

>> No.55850452

I'M GOING INSANEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
I need to watch lava, I need to watch my little sister, I need to watch lava, I need to watch my little sister, I need to watch lava, I need to watch my little sister,

>> No.55850643

>>55849080
>>55849375
This is why I keep telling you all to stop responding to obvious bad faith bait but you can't resist.

>> No.55850751

>>55850227
Cute voice, I like it.

>> No.55850773

>>55850227
UOOOOOOHHHHHHH ToT

>> No.55850825

>>55850227
Comes off as a bit tryhard when you forced it but you sound find naturally. Stick to that. You'll fatigue less quickly too.

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55851022

>>55850227

>> No.55851093
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55851093

I don't know how to advertise myself

>> No.55851191

>>55845684
he raided haru, /asp/ie love

>> No.55851452

>>55850227
https://voca.ro/19ySK2ILYvpQ

>> No.55851677

>>55851093
https://www.4channel.org/advertise

>> No.55851826

>>55849375
then why are you here

>> No.55852623

>>55850027
I have this one, I think I lost one of the pieces but she came with multiple.
Its been in the box for years now

>> No.55852741

>>55850227
UUUOOOHHHHH SEEEEGGS ToT

>> No.55853124

>>55848876
need a name so I can tune in and support you... as much as I can support you on a Wednesday anyways : ( work will fuck me up

>> No.55853297

>>55849080
I only shared this because I was kinda happy for him and wanted to share it : / I'm usually just bantering around and hope that it's the case for most of the people here as well, but I do wonder how many people actually are miserable enough to only think negatively like that

>> No.55853478

>>55853297
don't worry about it, the behavior is contained here. nothing really spills outside anyways. I'm glad for him, even if i'm one of the NGMI /asp/ies.

>> No.55853657

My viewers keep trying to talk to me about anime or video games but I don't really like those things at all. What should I do?

>> No.55853814

>tfw can draw but don't understand tech stuff at all
>can't even afford live2d
>don't know how to make a model
what do i do now...

>> No.55853904

>>55853657
Change your hobby. How the hell do you even get to this far into a niche?

>I like electronic media
>I like video games
>I like anime
>I like watching streamers
>I like watching anime streamer
>I want to be an anime streamer
How did you reach the very bottom of the staircase without going down the stairs?

>> No.55853944
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55853944

>>55853814
Learn and adapt.

>> No.55854011

>>55853814
Learn nigga.

>> No.55854311

>>55853814
just download l2d
if you look in the gen 3 aspcord, someone acvidentally dropped the crack in theresources channel way back when it was created, and nobody hasbothered to clean it up.

>> No.55854388

>>55853814
Live2D is easy enough to learn, and you should have a legup as an artist, pirating live2d is trivial as well.

>> No.55854531

>>55849375
How am I supposed to not be negative when I'm miserable? I physically feel like shit. I hate my life. I hate where I was born and live. I regret my entire life. I never stop thinking about suicide

>> No.55854695

>>55853904
Because your progression makes no sense. I like vtubers. I like streaming. I have no interest in anime or games. I like learning Japanese too.

>> No.55854801

>>55854531
I don't remember writing this

>> No.55854805

>>55854311
>>55854388
i have no discord. and i dont get how to download l2d

>> No.55854960

>>55853657
Like the other anon said, it feels like this hobby is not a good fit for you... Especially video games... Do you do exclusively zatsudan streams or something? If not and you're playing games occasionally: THERE YOU GO! you have stuff to talk about, be it the genre, why you like the current game or whatever... That requires you not to be a zatsudan/art only streamer tho

>> No.55854961

>>55854805
Then learn or else enjoy never making any progress.

>> No.55855095

>>55854531
Please consider therapy, else please find a non destructive coping mechanism

>> No.55855166

>>55854961
i dont understand

>> No.55855321

>>55853657
>why do my viewers who want to watch an anime character play videogames want to talk to me about anime and videogames
Anon I think you might just be stupid.

>> No.55855351

>>55854960
I am a two view zatsu/art/karaoke streamer. I enjoy it. I just don't know how to respond when people ask about things like anime manga movies games. I just don't look at that stuff at all

>> No.55855486

>>55855095
I don't want therapy. Thats more depressing than anything else. I don't have any coping mechanisms.

>> No.55856097

>>55854805
Download live2d as you would normally and add in the crack file, there are tutorials for this on youtube. You can make a throwaway discord account just to get the crack file

>> No.55856226

>>55856097
i dont know how to do that

>> No.55856462

>>55853814
https://www.downloadpirate.com/live2d-cubism-pro-4-2-03-win-full-version-free-download/

>> No.55856515

>>55856462
virus

>> No.55856576

>>55856462
>antivirus activated
You tried

>> No.55856809

>>55856576
>>55856515
You're techlets, and you should be ashamed of yourselves.

https://1cloudfile.com/i4Q5

>> No.55857172

>>55853814
Get a job

>> No.55857266

>>55856809
virus

>> No.55857362

>>55857172
This isn't the thread for you

>> No.55857532

>>55857266
are you not using adlock? I'll murder you if you seriously aren't using adblock.

>> No.55857898

>>55854695
> I have no interest in anime or games
>I like vtubers

Can you see how this feels contradictory? You don't like anime or gaming but you are okay watching an anime girl play games for hours?

If you genuinely want this as a revenue source, then maybe you're just going to have to suck it up and watch some anime and play some games because the overlap between people who like anime/games and people who watch vtubers would be nearly 100%. If it's just a hobby, who cares?

>> No.55858066

there are people on this website that don't know how to pirate software, are you guys for real?

>> No.55858142

>>55857532
nah i dont

>> No.55858254

>>55858066
Large majority of the current /asp/ies, fuck, vtubers as a whole, were born anywhere between 20 to 25 years ago.
They never experienced wild west internet.

>> No.55858286

>>55858066
i use to do it all the time. i was a big contributer to private trackers back almost 20 years ago. but i just can't do it anymore. I just wanna be a comfy hagtuber

>> No.55858312

Nobody likes people who spoonfeed actual retards that are given explicit instructions on how to get what they want, but still end up responding "I dunno how to do that"

>> No.55858322

>>55857362
>woman
>working
I can see my mistake

>> No.55858441

>>55858066
Most ppl who use this website were born after 9/11.

>> No.55858549
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55858549

>get raided by another vtuber
>they had 16 people with them
>my first time getting raided
>spill my spaghetti and sperg out
>play like absolute shit, stuttering and second guessing everything I’m about to say
>they all quietly leave once the vtuber goes to bed
I’m ngmi

>> No.55858721

>>55857898
It's not contradictory at all. I just don't like that stuff at all

>> No.55858755

What are some buff games to play?

>> No.55858789

>>55855486
This is either a larp or you're stupid and should stop posting until you figure out how to breathe unassisted

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>>55858721
>I don't like games or anime
>but I like games and anime
>this is not contradictory

>> No.55859143

>>55859013
I don't get why you're equating this stuff to fit your narrative. Your assumptions don't work.

>> No.55859197

>>55859143
This is why your audience will continue to ask you about it. You're negative IQ.

>> No.55859262

>>55859197
What is your problem with me? What did I do to you? This sucks...

>> No.55859299

>>55859143
They do work, you're just the epitome of cognitive dissonance. Regardless of how you feel, you are going to have to interact with people who do like anime and games, so go back to what I said before:

>If you genuinely want this as a revenue source, then maybe you're just going to have to suck it up and watch some anime and play some games because the overlap between people who like anime/games and people who watch vtubers would be nearly 100%. If it's just a hobby, who cares?

>> No.55859401

>guys comes into thread suicide baiting and says he loves vtubers but hates anime and games
This is like some kind of AI-generated troll or something.

>> No.55859406

>>55859262
I dislike watching somebody be given the answer they ask for because its not the answer they want

>> No.55859490

>>55859401
Hampter mind broke the thread

>> No.55859532

>>55859406
What answer was I given?
>>55859299
This isn't even what I asked.

>> No.55859584

>>55855351
You claim to be a zatsu streamer but don't know how to handle people asking you about things you aren't into?

>> No.55859640

>>55859401
I didn't suicide bait at all. What are you saying

>> No.55859667

>>55859532
>This isn't even what I asked
Yes it is you fucking lobotomised mongoloid

>My viewers keep trying to talk to me about anime or video games but I don't really like those things at all. What should I do?
If you genuinely want this as a revenue source, then maybe you're just going to have to suck it up and watch some anime and play some games because the overlap between people who like anime/games and people who watch vtubers would be nearly 100%. If it's just a hobby, who cares?

>> No.55859736

>>55858066
The types of software people would pirate have dwindled
>Windows
The vast majority of people pay for it by buying a prebuilt, people building their own PC are a minority
>Games
Steam is more convenient than pirating
>Photoshop
Most people realized any feature they'd use in PS could be done with their phone's built in image editor
>Video editors
Most people realized they just do minor trimming at the start and end, phones can do this

Anything else is too niche too mention

>> No.55859764

>>55859299
to be fair there isn't any contradiction between liking vtubers but not being interested in watching anime or playing games.

>> No.55859876

>>55859667
I just want to stop being bullied by you guys at this point. I didn't do anything to you.

>> No.55859908

>>55859764
You'd be accessing so many niche layers that I find it fundamentally contradictory and if that's the logic, then nothing is contradictory as long as you keep digging down through more layers.

>> No.55859935

>>55859876
Okay retard

>> No.55859988

>>55853657
Try "I don't watch anime or play videogames" anon. That's the commonly accepted English language phrase for the sentiment you're trying to express to your audience. No need to thank me, I'm sure you could have figured it out on your own.

>> No.55860031

>>55859876
>Come for advice
>get advice
>no i don't like that advice
>give me different advice
Oh get over yourself you woe is me retard.

>> No.55860058

>>55859908
they aren't really layered on each other. they're distinct categories that appeal to different people

>> No.55860156

>>55859764
Technically true, but this is the equivalent of going into an autoparts store, standing there, and when a clerk asks how they can help you, you respond with
>Oh no thanks, I don't even own a car, I just like how autoparts smell.

>> No.55860235

>>55860156
do you live on the moon?

>> No.55860324

>>55859764
>enter hobby where the vast majority of people play videogames regularly
>while using anime avatars
>dislike both videogames and anime, the 2 main things that make up the hobby
Vtubing is not for someone who doesn't like these things

>> No.55860355

>>55860031
I never said that.
>>55859935
Stop.
>>55859988
This is condescending

>> No.55860366

>>55860235
Anon, you've apparently got everything figured out so why are you asking this thread other than to continue inviting bullying? You're clearly not reading anything you're told.

>> No.55860456

>>55860355
Correct. You're being condescended at. Deal or fuck off

>> No.55860463

>>55860366
im not the one who asked the question

>> No.55860482

>>55860058
>anime girls playing video games
>this appeals to people who don't like anime or video games
What kind of 5D chess marketing team are you on? Like I understand there are models out there which aren't classically anime and there are vtubers who do not stream games, but then to also add in there are vtubers which aren't anime, then those who don't play games on top of that and then on top of that those vtubers don't have any interest in anime or games and those who can't even discuss anime or games...This is such a niche that it's nearly impossible to find and rounding to the nearest whole percentage of the industry which includes this demographic would result in 0%.

Yes theoretically, this person exists but practically and functionally do they? Probably not.

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>>55860355

>> No.55860726

>>55860324
why? where the fuck are you people pulling this from? there's zero logic to your reasoning. its all emotion driven "it makes me uncomfortable that someone like this is a vtuber".

how many big streamers on twitch have zero interest in watching someone play games? these are different hobbies moron.

>> No.55860905

>>55860726
>>how many big streamers on twitch have zero interest in watching someone play games?
False equivalency.

>> No.55860910

>>55860726
I know you're fishing for attention and this is bait, but I'm more morbidly fascinated by how desperate you are for attention. My mental picture of you is that of someone who's mother has to feed them through a flap in their bedroom door.

>> No.55861079

>>55860726
You are not a serious person

>> No.55861109

>>55860482
not watching anime doesn't mean you are repulsed by anime art you moron and many corpa vtubers spend more time in zatsu and karaoke than games and not being into games doesn't mean you're repulsed by watching someone play them. especially if it's someone you like to watch

you have low iq

>> No.55861182

>>55861109
>corpa
oh so that's who this is

>> No.55861305

>>55861109
I have a feeling this hobby isn't for you.

>> No.55861398

>>55860905
why is that a false equivalency yet your assertion that vtubing =watching anime=playing games isn't
>>55860910
im doing neither. it just annoys me how little sense your arguments make
>>55861079
what?

>> No.55861508

>>55861182
Name and shame sister

>> No.55861586

>>55861182
i just used slang i saw here, is that word associated with someone specific
>>55861305
im not the vtuber who asked. im just defending them. there's nothing about vtubing that requires you to watch animals and play games. you have no logic

>> No.55861599

>>55861398
>something can theoretically exist, therefore it must exist
Plato, the wine has gone to your head.

Either accept the advice of learning about your fucking audience and what they like or just fuck off and ignore them. What the fuck do you want you fucking idiot?

>> No.55861611

>>55861398
You're a fucking retard.
Drop your link so that I know who to avoid.

>> No.55861702

>>55861586
>im not the vtuber who asked. im just defending them. there's nothing about vtubing that requires you to watch animals and play games. you have no logic

Lmao you're Plato as well.
>because something theoretically can exist, therefore it must exist
Okay well, let me know how your vtubing dreams turn out when you can't relate to 99% of your audience.

>> No.55861886

>>55861599
your post makes no sense, that person doesn't theoretically exist. they actually exist and are in this thread.
i am not the vtuber who asked.
you're just over confident in your backwards argument and that bothered me
>>55861611
wrong guy

>> No.55861904

>>55861398
That anon isn't equating watching watching vtubers to playing games or watching anime. They're saying that it makes no sense that you're into a subgenre of streamers who entirely revolve around anime and games yet you don't enjoy those things.
I get it, you're weird. Ame watches mukbangs specifically because she can't eat a lot of stuff. But you really should be aware that you're in an extreme minority, like, a group of people in the single digits.

Regardless, as it's been said in this thread, just stream. If you don't get viewers then you don't get viewers, there are not more people like you.

>> No.55861977

I'm still trying to figure out what they're even asking when the answer is literally "tell your audience because you're allegedly a vtuber with an audience who asks you questions because you claim to do zatsu"

If you can't handle telling your audience "I don't consume that sort of media sorry" you're too socially retarded to be streaming and DEFINITELY not cut out to be doing zatsudan

>> No.55861997

>>55861702
>>>because something theoretically can exist, therefore it must exist
this does not apply whatsoever

>> No.55862021

>>55861886
>they actually exist and are in this thread.
And they're failing. So they won't exist pretty soon.

>> No.55862145

>>55861904
i don't stream
>>55862021
they're a 2view so evidently more success than most people here

>> No.55862200

>>55862145
>they're a 2view so evidently more success than most people here
Post them then.

>> No.55862275

>>55862200
how would i know who that was

>> No.55862387

>>55862275
Then how do you know they're a 2view?

>> No.55862452

>>55862387
because i read the thread

>> No.55862494

>>55862387
Because he's extraordinarily gullible

>> No.55862577

>>55862452
>I just believe everything everyone says

ah, you could have just said you're a retard, that would have been faster.

>> No.55862610

>>55862494
don't you think she was a troll? wouldn't that make you gullible too since you've kept replying?

>> No.55862713

>>55862610
She who, sis

>> No.55862721

>>55854311
/asp/cord? that exists?

>> No.55862747

>>55862577
so you didn't believe her yet you kept responding and giving her attention...
go back to twitch, kid

>> No.55862767
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And I'm the schizo, you guys make me feel sane

>> No.55862825

>>55862747
>her

HE THINKS ITS A GIRL

>> No.55862931

>>55862767
these morons drove off some cool /here/tuber because they couldn't contain their autism and could not conceive of someone enjoying vtubers who isn't caught up on JJK or one piece

>> No.55863056

>>55862825
it was and if you did your reps you'd know her

>> No.55863238

>>55863056
>They're a 2view
>>post
>No i don't know who they are
>but i also do know who they are

>> No.55863249

>>55862931
Sure they did sister. Some "cool" /here/tuber

>> No.55863352

It was real in my mind

>> No.55863448

>2view
>doesn't like anime, video games
>does art, zatsu, and karaoke
I am going to track this retard down for ruining the thread

>> No.55863598

>>55863448
Same. Don't forget female.

>> No.55864266

Just remember that you all have more effective ways to improve than arguing over who has the most small numbers, or which definitions are correct, and what the requirements are for doing anything.

>> No.55864601

>>55863448
I'm still pretty sure it was bait but its also likely they were using the "literally two viewers" definition of 2view and not the "digits" definition generally used, which makes it even more funny if they're not baiting.

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I think I'm going to do a retro Mindstorms stream.

>> No.55864872
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>>55854531
Unironically, fix your sleep, spend time in the sun, start working out, cut down on processed foods.
Stick with the program for 3 months and you will feel better.

>> No.55865025
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>>55854531
or just get abs and the you can kys of you still want to

>> No.55865134

>>55864663
did this have a game like rock raiders or is it just pure programming autism with lego bricks (I'm down either way just askin)

>> No.55865337 [DELETED] 

>>55864872
>>55865025
This doesn't work for me and the whole health and fitness cult on the internet nowadays is annoying as fuck. I miss when things were edgier.

>> No.55865497

>>55865337
You don't want solutions. You want to be depressed. Stop wanting solutions and start just doing them anyway.

>> No.55865571

>>55865134
You build a robot then program it.

I'm trying to get my hands on a retro set and then do programming in a Mac OS 9 VM. Probably won't happen but I can dream.

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>>55841597
Thank you for all of your support awoomfies. We're taking the nuclear option and going for the use a completely different computer route next to solve our buffering.

>> No.55865684

>>55865497
This is why the fitness cult is annoying. You can't accept that your advice isn't universal. I'm speaking from experience. That stuff doesnt not help me. For my situation it is not a solution

>> No.55865781

>>55865684
Read "The Courage To Be Disliked"

>> No.55865899

>>55865781
No I'm done with that

>> No.55865964

>>55865684
Who said anything about fitness, retard? You're the same faggot who said:
>I don't want therapy. Thats more depressing than anything else. I don't have any coping mechanisms.

You don't have coping mechanisms, you don't want them. You just want a crybox.

>> No.55866002

>>55865899
Return to monkey

>> No.55866041

>>55865899
When are you done with being a bitch

>> No.55866116

>>55865964
both of the people I responded to suggested fitness
I don't understand, do you think coping mechanisms are a good thing?

>> No.55866200

>>55866116
This is bait

>> No.55866227

>>55866041
Go back

>> No.55866249

>>55866116
You are retarded

>> No.55866392

>>55866200
>>55866249
How are coping mechanisms good? Im not gonna go do drugs or be alcoholic

>> No.55866489

Vtubers?

>> No.55866500

>>55866392
There are healthy coping mechanisms and unhealthy ones you Habsburger

>> No.55866502

>>55865684
it's a bunch of annoying kids who watch that Indian doctor on twitch and now think they know everything

>> No.55866610

>>55866500
Where did you learn that word because coping mechanism is universally negative is how it was in my day

>> No.55866617

>>55866500
I'm German not Austrian

>> No.55866710

>>55866610
I'm sorry that you don't know what words mean and think that its somehow somebody else's problem

>> No.55866788

>>55866710
Lay off man

>> No.55866793
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this is the dumbest thread we had in... well, a while

>> No.55866920

>>55866710
Next time you choose to bitch about being lonely and start goslinging think back to how you treated people here, normalfag

>> No.55866980

>>55866920
You mean the first time

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Anyways, what are you guys doing/working on right now? I'm making a character design in Koikatsu.

>> No.55867463

Interesting thread, anyway what’s the best way to handle a long game? Multiple back to back streams, or spreading out the game between other games?

>> No.55867471

>>55866793
Even last thread, which was euros being racists again, was better

>> No.55867688

>>55867463
Do both. If you have a few days where you can play for a long time then use them to focus on that game. As a viewer, I like when there's variety because some games filter me completely.

>> No.55867711

>>55867463
Depends how long you mean. You can knock out a game in a week or you can do that game once a week until it finishes.

>> No.55868450

>>55867315
I've been working on a shitty little PNG. I'm more satisfied with this one than the one I threw together last month. With that squared away for now, I'm gonna go fuse with my couch for a bit.

>> No.55869162

>>55868450
Aw, nice! Have fun relaxing!

>> No.55869533
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>>55867315
prepping to debut! stuck with a png for now while i wage to hire a rigger but i drew my model and my png myself. i'm in the niche of ryona and guro enjoyment so my following is likely going to be small but i'm streaming just because i want to, not for any number.

>> No.55869667

>>55869533
you wanna explain the mushroom, or

>> No.55869743

From experience and just observing, Yugioh and Project Moon games give you a good chance of getting raided.
What other games/genres are good for attracting raids?

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>>55867315
Giving myself new eyes with AI.
I'll slowly build up my own L2D then rig it.

>> No.55869893

>>55869765
i still won't watch a male but good luck

>> No.55870011

>>55869667
She doesn't have to. Drogas.

>> No.55870065

>>55869765
You'll probably still have to do a bit of redrawing parts to fill in void spaces and get clean individual layers.

>> No.55870072

>>55869667
i'm an ant who's brain has been overtaken by the ophiocordyceps unilateralis fungus, aka the "zombie ant fungus" which latches onto a host (most commonly an ant) then breaks and controls its mind to take it out of its habitat and kill it in order to sprout and spread its spores further and breed.

>> No.55870162

Any aspies have tips for YouTube thumbnails? My click through rate is abysmal.

>> No.55870174

I want a cute catchphrase like the doggos. I was thinking nig nig.

>> No.55870445

>>55870065
Yeah, there are some alterations I wanna make, like more visible dog ears and clearing up some details as some features look "melted" up close, so it'll be a bit of work.

>> No.55870457

>>55870162
big red circles, your model pointing at whatever's in it. joking aside I'd suggest watching this video, maybe not for specific advice but more a general discussion on the topic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6-i75wDIBE

>> No.55870543

>>55869667
>gurotuber
that mushroom is gonna get picked and eaten on stream

>> No.55870656

>>55870543
true, since in lore if i lose it i die. i hope if i get any viewers they at least cook it nicely.

>> No.55870686

>>55870656
Are you a girl?

>> No.55870771

>>55870162
put your avatar's boobs in them and lots of obnoxious red circles

>> No.55870800

>>55870686
yeah, but babiniku are really cool i wish there were more western ones.

>> No.55870891

>>55870800
Ok cool I don't feel comfortable making weird eroguro comments about guys.

>> No.55871034

>>55870162
Beryl and Runoxi have good looking thumbnails

>> No.55871059

>>55870891
yeah it's more common to like ryona when it comes to guro which i understand, i'm personally similar but i do enjoy an occasional male eroguro as a treat.

>> No.55871098

>>55871059
I'll be sure to sexpest you when you debut

>> No.55871440

>>55870457
Actually interesting video, but rather general and unhelpful. Appreciate the effort though anon.

>> No.55872503

I would sooner rip off my own arms than collab with any of you.

>> No.55872561

>>55872503
Neat

>> No.55872799

>>55872503
I would sooner watch you rip off your arms than any of your videos.

>> No.55873126

Why is everyone here a menhera or a budding menhera?

>> No.55873365

>>55873126
Well adjusted people don't become streamers using anime avatars

>> No.55873606
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>>55873126
Not me, I love my life.

>> No.55873759

>>55872503
I'd love to collab with more people here but I keep to myself mostly.

>> No.55873777

>>55873126
Poor self-esteem.

>> No.55873897

>>55873126
no gf

>> No.55873912

>>55873759
Yeah, there are some real bros here, but I almost exclusively play single player.

>> No.55873914

>>55858549
dont feel bad friend, raiders nearly never stick around regardless of what you do, if you are lucky their most loyal fans might follow you if you are actually their friend and they talk you up

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>>55867315
Drawing my own l2d model, learning as I go. So many layers ;-;

>> No.55874012

>>55873912
Let's collab just chatting while we play the same single player game at the same time.

>> No.55874047

>>55873912
Do a co-play stream. Stream the same game from the same point and talk about your differing experiences while playing.

>> No.55874089

>>55870072
cute, i'll def check you out when you debut

>> No.55874297

>>55873912
Do a Pokemon stream with someone else where both have the same time limit to build a team, at the end of the time limit you both fight

>> No.55874432

>>55859736
Using a phone for video and image editing wtf

>> No.55874632

>>55874432
Most people unironically don't need more, for photos your average person just needs beautify to remove skin blemishes and some color filter, at best they'll fiddle with the saturation/brightness/contrast if they're feeling adventurous. For video most people just want to remove the beginning or end and maybe slap a color filter

>> No.55875291

>>55873126
To be fair if you say one thing that expresses self-doubt or lack of energy then people will call you menhera and act like you're having a mental breakdown.

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>>55873126
I'm as far from menhera as one can be in modern society

>> No.55875543

>>55873941
augh that was painful for me to learn personally, i practically exploded drawing mine and i don't know how to rig and am genuinely too stupid too, i've tried for months. maybe i'll try again one more time idk, but for now it's a lost cause. i wish you lots of luck though! just from those eyes i can tell your art is cute!!

>> No.55875790

>>55869533
more freaktubers is good, thank you

>> No.55875827

>>55873126
im pretty happy, but everyone gets sad sometimes. thats normal

>> No.55875969

Notice to all New Vtubers in this thread!
Make sure you can get messaged on Twitch or Twitter thanks!

>> No.55876546

>>55875969
GROOMER ALERT

>> No.55877319

>>55853657
Ignore the other spergs jumping at you! I feel like the best way to handle it is just being honest. "Yeah sorry, I don't actually watch anime/video games" it's not like your viewers will burn you on a torch after you said it, at least not unless you actively start shitting on it

>> No.55877393

>>55832481
tranny self hate post

>> No.55877408

>>55875543
Thanks anon <3
I know what you mean, rigging to just too intimidating to me. It seems like drawing it is a more obtainable goal for now. But it's all about trial and error though, don't give up!

>> No.55877538

>>55875969
Oh? What kind of things do you want to say to me?

>> No.55877662

>>55877538
NTA but I would like to send dick pics to all vtubers :)

>> No.55877669

>>55863238
I can't believe people are just too retarded to read nowadays. Motherfucker mentioned it in his first post. You guys somehow got that he wanted to kill himself and is suicidal, but not the part where he says how big they are?

And no, I don't necessarily believe it, I just take stuff at face value tho because I don't actually give a crap about numbers. Ifbyou tell me you're a 3 view I'll just act like that cuz who cares

>> No.55877711

>>55877669
No I'm actually Miko. You're a nigger faggot and should kill yourself.

>> No.55877801

>>55850227
if you go high you start to sound like a retard babytuber. Not my style wild cat

why did i type that.

>> No.55877812

>>55869533
Actually sounds based! Gib name

>> No.55877908

Daiya is singing drunk!
https://www.twitch.tv/daiyadiamandis

>> No.55877914

>>55870174
I wouldn't recommend this but I'll give you like, 5€ to do this on stream

>> No.55878022

>>55870174
Nah, that's might upset the western audience try じゅうじゅう pronounced like jew jew

>> No.55878138

>>55875969
I should be able to be messaged. The connection up here in my ship is somewhat spotty tho

>> No.55878180

>>55859876
G3T THE FUCK OFF THIS SITE IF WORDS ON SCREEN MAKE YOU FEEL BAD

>> No.55878188

>>55877662
Okay I didn't read that part, uhm, my twitter and twitch DMs are not open. DMs closed due to aids!

>> No.55878222

>>55877711
Who the fuck is Miko?

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>>55878222
You're fucking joking right?

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>>55877812
Arisosei Kimoko! I don't like kind of posting myself all around too much because I don't have very high self-esteem but I am debuting (sadly with a png at the moment) on August 17th, 1am EST, or August 16th 10pm PST. It's a hard time for some people I know, but it's what works for me. My Twitter and pretty much everything is exactly my name (@arisoseikimoko). I have it all linked under my pinned. I have posted a cover on my channel but I'll be honest I don't really like how it sounds, I'm keeping it up just to see my progress in the future. As of the moment everything I've done is my own. All my assets all my art, everything is me - that's why some of it may not be as good as the rest, I don't have every talent ever.

>> No.55878511

Having my weekly mental breakdown.

>> No.55878541

>>55878315
Maybe? Am I supposed to know her? Are they referencing the Hololive Vtuber? If yes then they should shut up because Miko currently is right here with me, getting dicked on

>> No.55878565

>>55878511
based

>> No.55878575

>>55878392
will follow, thaaaaaaaanks~~

>> No.55878678

Women what is your opinion on the constant male doomer posting about the male debuff?

>> No.55878722

>>55878511
You're early, ain't monday yet, cut that shit out

>> No.55878768

>>55878511
I'm here for you bb, tell me what is on your mind

>> No.55878958

>>55878392
YouTube only, not twitch? YouTube is known for being insanely hard to network and grow in by streaming alone.

>> No.55879028

>>55878392
Careful with the thread tags in your name and description, unless you want it publicly known that you associate here. Most vtubers from /here/ usually just don’t publicly acknowledge they’re from here or regular this place. It makes it really easy for people to make up dumb shit about you.

>> No.55879037

>>55878768
Coco...

>> No.55880419

>>55879028
yeah, i'm prepared for all that. yeah if i ever end up "making it" rrats will follow and every shitpost will be assumed to be me because "she's /here/" and etc. I like it being known, biggest reason being to weed out people who are crybabies about the hacker known as 4chan. some people are also just completely unaware of what that shit means lmao.

>>55878958
yeah, i prefer youtube though anyway. i may use twitch for occasional backup but twitch is pretty strict on the content i like.

>> No.55880960

>>55880419
what's the content you like?

>> No.55881391

>>55877801
You kinda like it

>> No.55881865

>>55880419
It's more like some people don't want to be publicly associated with 4chan and may even avoid you if you're seen with that tag. It's less about crybabies and just more about public image, especially if you plan on networking with others outside of the site (which is very important if you want to grow)

>> No.55881920

>>55881865
Not her, but it's odd that outside of vtubing a lot of people are known 4chan users and do just fine

>> No.55882157

>>55881920
Being a known 4chan user and publicly stating in your profile that you are from 4chan user are two different things. Literally everyone that started from /asp/ can be traced back here as a "known" 4chan user, some /wvt/s, hell even some corpos are known to browse here. That's different from putting /asp/ or /meat/ in your information and handle on twitter. Regardless, I respect her decision on how she wants to handle matters. Also, people should really read the opsec stuff more often.

And if anyone ever wants to know what the worst case scenario is for being traced back to 4chan, literally just look at what's happening to that one upcoming vtuber that got "cancelled" because of her association and relation to 4chan. I use that term pretty loosely because it's such a dogshit reason to even get cancelled, but regardless, she delayed her debut and has to respond to allegations because normies.

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>>55882157
This one, I mean.

>> No.55882279

>>55882157
Wasnt she getting canceled because she was drawing loli/shota or something? I think the guy trying to cancel her was conflating loli/shota to literal CP though.

>> No.55882295

>>55882190
oh yeah her. what the fuck did she even get bonked on the head for by normies?

>> No.55882326

>>55881920
/asp/ has always been sorta retarded when it came to stuff like this

>/asp/ - no! Don’t use your old Twitter handle as your twitch user name! People are going to dig through your tweets and find out you’re a Trump supporter and cancel you, retard! They might even find enough info to dox you! You have to be super careful!
>also /asp/ - regularly shilling my twitch on /asp/ is perfectly normal! It’s just networking, dude. Everyone on /asp/ does it and nothing bad ever happens to them!

>> No.55882393

>>55882279
She had her handle traced back to drawthreads, specifically on /b/ and /ic/, I think.
>>55882295
Someone literally just googled her name and reverse image searched her stuff while she was on vacation. Her content revolved around doing stuff on tiktok which attracted zoomers, and people were adverse about a former drawfag who drew lolisho on 4chan.
>>55882326
You say this, but this literally happened a couple of days ago because they ARE cancelling her and actually did doxx her.

>> No.55882461

>>55882190
cute design, hope she debuts soon.

>> No.55882473

>>55882326
To be fair, a lot of people started off on /asp/ and then outgrew the need for it. It's a better start networking here and growing an audience than streaming into the void.

>> No.55882509

>>55882461
She was supposed to debut in July, but it got cancelled for obvious reasons. She moved it to an undetermined date in the future.

>> No.55882570

>>55882157
I'll partially concede, the people I was thinking about don't outright state they regularly browse 4chan but it's glaringly obvious when looking at their content (Mental Outlaw and Luke Smith), they also pander mainly to /g/ which is among the tamer boards
>>55882190
I watched the callout video when someone posted it and most of the allegations revolved around
>Lying about her age
>Having NSFW allowed in a Discord server mostly comprised of minors
>Drawing loli and shota
It did mention her posting on 4chan, but it was a footnote at best, I will not take a moral stance on whether or not what she did is right or wrong, but it's highly likely that if she never touched this site and did everything else the same, she would've gotten cancelled anyway

I downloaded the video in case the guy that posted it takes it down, feel free to correct me
https://files.catbox.moe/w0kjp7.webm

>> No.55882662

>>55882570
This guy sounds like a fag and is a fag for stirring drama. Lying about your age on the internet is literally nothing, and drawing loli and shota and posting it onto a 4chan board that accepts that is fine. The NSFW allowed in public servers with minors is kinda weird though. It's shit like this that you have to really curate your audience or you'll get into hot water. Hope she pulls through, regardless.

>> No.55882708

>>55882570
yeah this seems less about 4chan and more about just having generally decent opsec. there's a reason why people have their public vtuber persona account and their pl roommate account

>> No.55882718

>>55882662
yeah i think all the shit she's gotten "canceled" for is dumb as fuck. so many people fucking lied about their age on the internet, and lolisho is a nothingburger that zoomed want to get mad about. ofc the server thing is a bit strange but it's also probably not malicious in nature and just the byproduct of not thinking that sort of thing through.

>> No.55882788

>>55882509
Why do people let these fucking retards dictate to them what they can and can't do? None of these morons even watch vtubers.

>> No.55882839

>>55882570
>video sounds like it's made by some nasally basement dweller

Yeah no fuck him, she should just debut.

>> No.55882948

>>55882788
streaming and vtubing is all about public image
having a hit piece out on you will not be a good thing looming over your shoulders before you debut, it especially attracts holier-than-thou types that'll spend no time at all trying to cancel other people for clout, and talking about how they're "tired of so-and-so ruining my hobby". hot takes are the new meta on twitch and everybody that so much as stumbles is fresh ammo for them

>> No.55882980

>>55882718
Lying about your age gets dicey if you end up in a position of influence, specially if your follower base are younger/teenagers. Shadman lying about his age doesn’t matter because he creates exclusively adult content. Children aren’t supposed to be consuming his content anyway. On the other hand, if you’re a 30 year old artist and you have a lot of underage fans and you lie and say you’re a teenager, or even that you’re only in your early 20s, you’re going to raise a lot of eyebrows.

>> No.55882984

>>55882393
It's hitting her the hardest because she got popular on tiktok, her rise to fame was from there. If your founding audience panders to woke zoomers then you'll reap what you sow. It's easier to bounce back from being cancelled if your audience doesn't care about that dumb shit to begin with.

>> No.55883024

>>55882948
I agree with the sentiment but in reality, majority of people who will be your first viewers, probably aren't going to care. Changing your behaviour because of them only
A. Affirms the claims made about it even if there are false or exaggerated claims mixed in with truths
B. Encourages a magnifying glass over you forever because those houlier-than-thou types get off to power trips and you will become that power source

>> No.55883160

>>55883024
true, but keep in mind that anyone getting cancelled for the first time won't really be thinking straight with a lot of people going after them. it takes a lot of mental fortitude to think of a proper course of action and try to save face and gain favor of your followers without looking pathetic (see every vtuber apology/cancellation ever). ignoring allegations like that with people probably sending you hate dms will probably get on most people's nerves, putting it lightly

>> No.55883210

>>55883160
*youtuber apology/cancellation, meant to say. guess it applies to both situations though

>> No.55883334

>>55882980
In her case it's the opposite, allegedly she was 16 and said she was older than that, which makes some of the allegations worse in the eyes of the people cancelling her

>> No.55883573

>>55883334
>"this underage girl pretended to be older, she deserves to be cancelled for that"
do retards from tiktok and twitter really

>> No.55883628

>>55883573
Their argument is closer to "This underage girl drew porn and also that porn is against my moral viewpoints", I don't agree with it, but I don't like misrepresenting someone's argument

>> No.55883756

>>55883738
new bread

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