/#/ - Numbers thread

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>>55740315
*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://www.hololive-songs.com/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber
>https://www.nijiuta.com/

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

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/#/ is declining

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>>55740315

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Chu~

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>5/5 EN3 won't collab with males
>leeching e-celebs dying
>homostars termination announcement imbound
Holochad status?

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>>55740343
hey man

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>>55740315
Recent clip numbers
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>>55729483
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Council MVP

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>>55740234
>numberfagging with eyes
Holy BASED

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>>55740345
FUCKING KEK! If that's your OC; congratulations, this is going far

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>>55740021
Jap bros... Our saviours efforts to rebuild and make a better holoEN are being overlooked by the retard schizos here. Owari Da.

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A Hag to brighten up your day

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>HOLOLIVE BOARD
>HOLOLIVE THREAD

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KNEEL TO THE LAMY FOURIUNVIRATE!

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>>55740257
colorblind sama

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>>55740366

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>>55740345
Sign me up!! I never managed to graduate normally but with Nijisanji I'm sure I can graduate in record time!

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>>55740435
Fuck off.

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Fauna is the face of Council

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>>55740345
Okay, this is good

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>>55740345

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>>55740453
Chu~

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I saw this somewhere. Funni edit.

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>>55739185
Cuck

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>>55740474
No, It's Mumei

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>>55740370
WINNING

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>>55740345
should've made that the OP

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>>55740435
No. Just no.

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I watched bladerunner 2049, and still don't know what does the gosling meme mean. Just represents an average lonely desperate loser?

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>>55740504
>Edit
Anon...

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>>55740504
>edit

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>>55740370
>Cant Stop Winning!

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>>55740315
WHAT THE FUCK MOST BASED THREAD IN THE HISTORY OF THE BOARD.

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>>55740562
It represents me

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>>55740504
nice newfag larp

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>>55740562
Yeah basically

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https://live.fc2.com/91544481/
Dildo time with Karin Necoma

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>>55740562
>Just represents an average lonely desperate
yes
>loser?
isn't he a successful professional that just so happens to be lonely?

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>>55740474
>>55740507
As least it's not this >>55740383

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>>55740504

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>>55740562
I am planning to watch it to understand the meme. I will still watch it despite your revelation.

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>>55740562
You're a retard.
He's in love with someone that isn't real. She is a creation both from technological advancement and the user's perception.
The gosling meme is being in love with someone that isn't real. Even if they were real, you will never meet them. Even if you could meet them, it wouldn't be the same.

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>>55740562
Pretty much, but he having a virtual gf makes it more relatable to vtubers

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>>55740247
Some Japanese schools don't even allow naturally brown hair. It's possible her hair is a naturally lighter color than her peers.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/19/world/asia/japan-hair-school.html

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>>55740611
>joined the stream
>sub 7k
>turned 360 and walked away

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>>55740345
KEK

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>>55740562
https://youtu.be/2Vcy8huku_Q

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>nicocado avocado mentioned
Yab

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>Numberfagging every 100k subs
I guess the newfags are ex nijifags. Would explain a lot

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>>55740393
People can't see the bigger picture. Tempiss NEEDED to happen so Cover can learn from their failures of chasing the Luxiem fad. We're in the correct timeline and anyone who says otherwise lacks hindsight.

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>>55739714
>>55740024
The shit they teach you at school is outdated. Hair and eye color are polygenic traits that don't follow mendelian inheritance

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>>55740370
*blocks your path*

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>>55740562
It's /tv/ cancer spread to this board by teamates

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>>55740740
It's not 2021 anymore mate, 100k is hard to get these days

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>>55740315
Teen pussy (13-16) is the best. Hagkeks and cunnykeks can fight amongst themselves for subpar pussy.

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>>55740383
The glue and leader of council
>>55740620
Objectively wrong

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>be cover
>has the most successful female streamer group in Japan and in the world
>has the most successful female vtuber group in the west and SEA
>makes tens of millions from girls larping as anime characters
>still debuts homos for the entirety of 2022 only to be beaten by ID3 who reached 2M in a year
cover did bad last year

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>>55740474
Yeah, and Kronii is the boobs of council
Bae is the thighs of council
IRyS is the ass of council
Mumei is the brain of council

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>>55740740
Retard.

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>>55740562
bro do you seriously not get the relevance after watching a movie where the dude is in love with his virtual waifu?

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>>55740504
*Cums on you* and that link is also a funni edit, Risu? https://youtube.com/shorts/1L8UwrYxpYo
I know you're here. Collab with Pekora already you damn whore.

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Trackholo does it since time immemorial

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>>55740790

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>>55740790
They should just kill the Holostars brand already and use the money they'd save to invest more in the girls.

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>>55740790
>lets try suspending holojp streams for homo 3d debut, could work

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>>55740822
>daughter
>not ai

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>>55740652

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>>55740750
Anon, all you are saying is that there are a minority of cases where it is possible to escape that rule but those are just that, exceptions.
For the great majority of cases (observed across the world, for thousands of years) that rules is how it goes.

That is one of the most retarded assertions in modern science
>If X happens Y follows
>ACTSUALLY, there is a one in a million chance that if X happens, Y won't follow exactly
For mathematics that's a valid rebuttal, for natural science that's the same as saying
>the average number of legs for all of the existing human beings is less than 2
It is true, but it doesn't change the way pants are made

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>>55737438
It was obviously a lie, blue homo said he refused an invite to that later one and multiple other collabs so it had to be planned as yet another way to normalize homos no way they couldn't find 4 girls especially when in reality 2 would be more than enough because this watchalong gimmick was pretty pointless and again aimed at normalizing mixed gender shit.
Anyway Kobo is not better than Ollie, actually at least zombie seem to like hololive more.

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>>55740822
Can confirm, my daughter will join EN15 audition

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>>55740855
If they are profitable just let them hang around and funnel the profits into girls until the homos leave or they become unprofitable

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>>55740813
A retarded sexbomb, sign me in

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Alright, WHAT happened last thread
People suddenly brought up males baits again

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>>55740939
"Scott" vs BTVM
BTVM lost

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>youtu.be/4BTRxEWgpi0
this is just livechat with sprinkles of horny posts
he make this place looks like reddit (i know it was tourism weekend, but still...)

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>>55740855
So you want them to become Niji?

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>>55740750
https://www.gbhealthwatch.com/Trait-Eye-Color.php

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>>55740854
>only fauna inclined
what can we infer from this?

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I did NOT know Dexerto wrote about that clip

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>>55740939
Bored people are bored. Actually, things are going to return to the "timeloop arc" of this thread because

>homobeggars got vanquished
>nijibeggars got vanquished
>StarsEN and NijiEN are in an all time low, both in numbers and morale
>Koshien is going away in a few days and, with it, the last of Niji big numbers events up until (maybe) MarioKart tournament in November

All this thread will have is infighting and shitposts

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>>55740898
Kobo doesn’t care about integration and changing Holo, she does her own thing. Ollie actively tries to insert them and wanted to change Holo culture in the past.

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>>55740939
the Nijis are having a family problem again but mainly their number situation is GRIM

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>>55740740
Every 100k is the right way to celebrate, the whole "Endurance until 100k, 100k celebration, 100k after party" is the retarded thing to do

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>>55740855
leave the stars brand alone, but whatever concert they want to do or a 3D live or merch, they should try crowdfunding it or pay it from their own pockets.

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I don't think Fauna is getting 5k today. Absolute kusoge vs 2 holocure streams...

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>>55740504
Now that we know that Cover interns lurk these threads. What's the likelihood of the girls being encouraged to visit this place? I doubt Cover is foolish enough to fall for the "I support the boys" sentiment that plagues places like Twitter and Reddit yet on YouTube da boiz are getting ABYSMAL views and SHIT engagement. I don't know Anons but I'm starting to get the feeling that Cover knows where the real and unfiltered opinions about Hololive can be found.

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>>55740982
I wonder how inheritable central heterochromia is, both my dad and me (green eyes with a centre of light brown) has it while my mom has blue eyes

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>>55741070
>leave the stars brand alone
No they need to get rid of it and also stop allowing leeches to collab with the girls.
That means Nijisanji, that means e-celebs, that means those cosplay whores

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>>55740992
Predictable schedule, timeslot and not playing endless debuff garbage does wonders.

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>>55741121
She's kind of fucking it up by not streaming 5 days a week anymore

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>>55741102
>What's the likelihood of the girls being encouraged to visit this place?
Zero

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>>55741106
portuguese or another descendent of the celtic tribes?

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>>55740370
>leeching e-celebs dying
You snuck this in you sick bastard. Kys.

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Pekotyan.

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>>55740898
It was obviously a lie because Kiara lives on their discord and loves worms, Gura also really likes worms, and Fauna says yes to every collab possible. There is no point in time where both would be asleep and unable to agree to said collab. You wouldn’t have to watch homos to see that

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>>55741096
>two
Probably three. Gura will either play it or do a karaoke today.

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>>55741173
>falling for an attention whore bait
anon, plz

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>>55741162
I mean she's in Japan
Last time she was in Japan she had a scattered schedule too, as long as it's temporary and she doesn't go completely silent for 2 weeks or anything she'll be fine.

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>>55741173
Shut the fuck up you absolute faggot. Better yet, use your hands to tickle my balls and be useful for once

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>>55740370
>>55741173
?
im still waiting for a pro-idol culture/ pro-unicorn video essay

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>>55740562
Literally ME. And a true representation of how I genuinely feel whenever I watch my oshis streams.

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>>55741162
Not a problem if it's just a short-term thing. Especially since she's been very consistent for a long time. Saplings are well trained.

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I thought I missed Fuwamoco morningu but realized, yeah... it's in their name

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>>55741167
Dad is a finn from the northwest of finland and my mom is from the islands between finland and sweden, so probably as far from celtic or portugese you can get in europe

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>>55740939
Schizos spam to get people mad, people ignore them so they samefag until they get a response. Same as always

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We should start our own Fall Guys tournament

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>>55740562
DO YOUR MEDIA COMPREHENSION REPS.

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>>55741223
>?
One of those street fighter fags from the e-celeb tournament died lol

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>>55741251
>FWMC
>Friday Wednesday Monday C

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>>55740982
I'm pretty sure C allele spontaneously appears due to low sunlight conditions, so all human populations will eventually get it by staying indoors too much.

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>>55740992
That you’re a retard

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>>55741102
Cover 100% gives all girls a run down on how horrible this place is and how they should never come here and then they finish their meeting and the girls and interns all come here anyway

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>>55740939
A poor bastard had his heart give out on him and Korone made the mistake of not knowing this and congratulating him when he was already dead. One bloke decided to be a retarded ass over it. People kept biting the bait instead of just ignoring the dumbass.

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>>55741106
That's very common with green eyes which as the anon said is a thing with Celtic people
I have it and I'm Irish

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>>55741320
Friday Wednesday Monday are the days they both are lusting for Cock(yeah mine).

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https://twitter.com/yayoiken1324/status/1689571199146504192

Oh, so they DO have multiple cams for the concert
Good to know

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I'm glad that my wife is more motivated and feels reinvigorated thanks to Advent. It feels good. I love goombie.

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>>55740883
Anon, mendelian inheritance only applies to traits that are determined by 1 single gene. Hair color and eye color are determined by multiple genes.
If mendelian inheritance applied to hair, the children of a pure black hair and pure blonde hair would be black hair 100% of the time, but that's not true since most of the times they have brown hair and they can also be blonde

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>>55741102
Ollie mentioned that she was heavily discouraged from visiting /vt/ but she got curious and came here anyway and apparently saw a good reception.

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>>55741251
>>55741320
What does C stand for?

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>>55740435
Go back

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>>55737037
"Hololive because hololive production" homobeggar cope came directly from omega even before homos actually debuted, in fact original auditions were opened for male Vtubers under hololive English, Holostars EN was revealed right before the actual debuts.

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>>55741313
>>55741344
kek based

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>>55741320
the c is for cunt

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>>55741390
cunny

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>>55740971
Anon, consider that many likely fled the subreddit after everything that's happened, and /vt/ IS reddit-lite. It's too late to fix that unless mods and jannies decide to suddenly start enforcing specific rules, but that ship has long sailed anyways, so people are just gonna have to deal.

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>>55740562
Yes. Cover condones my mental illness, how could you tell?

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So, predictons on EN watchalong of koshien on petra channel? 36k like last year? more or less?
I say 25k

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>>55741046
>wanted to change Holo culture in the past
https://youtu.be/WVlZUSmPgDE
>Hololive wasn't my first option
this woman is beyond shameless
don't look at the comments

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>>55741433
Cuck

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>Shiori
Would it have killed them to hire people who aren't completely tone deaf?

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>>55741390

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>>55741470
>she wanted to unironically join nijiID
a shame that she wasnt successful, the troon hana macchia could use some company "she" seems lonely these days

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>>55741482
was an omega/loserbait hire from before Jap

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>>55741482
Every EN gen needs one.
Myth has Ame and Council has Fauna.

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>>55741382
Anon, you are missing the point made here. I agree that the chart anon made is very reductive but certain principles are mantained including the initial point which was: in the event of a parent with brown eyes (without any ancestor with blue eyes) and a parent with blue eyes, in the great majority of the observed cases the offspring will have brown eyes.
There will be exceptional cases, but those are rare

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>>55741374
yeah the camerawork is less of a spazz during the dancing segments and spends less time cutting away to the audience during dance moves

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>>55741374
The original cut especially Bae's was horrible, insanely unwatchable in comparison

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>>55741482
Every gen needs at least one or in some cases all but 1. Can’t have people thinking they’re too good at their job

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>>55740562
He's not a "loser" in a true sense, but he's a freak and unwelcome in his community, if he fucks up his job the penalty is death, and he basically has nothing to actually live or strive for. He basically exists for the small bit of comfort that his Joi brings him, and his job which allows him to pay for update and shit for her. This is even more painful as he realizes he is in fact not the chosen one and is just as incapable of having children as any of the other Replicants, thus making him utterly futureless, with no job and no Joi to give his existence any meaning.

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>>55740562
bro did you never take a literature class at all during school? This is basic theming stuff

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>>55740982
What I was taught in school is a bit different. I was taught that the simple Mendelian trait model is a simple predictor but in reality, it is more complex than that.

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If you guys are still talking genetics.
Theres this interesting thing with my family where we're all blonde until around 8 years old and the hair turns brown.
I wonder if it would go from blonde to black if I bang nips

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>>55741482
I'm sorry that you hate fun.

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>>55741609
That is called being white anon, it is extremely common to have blond hair as a child only for it to darken to brown with age

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>>55741482
Eat my cock

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AZKi ASMR?!?!!!!

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>>55741482
it is tradition

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>>55741609
That's common in my family, you are by any chance of european descent?

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>>55741653
Wow Shiori’s the only good hire and who knows how long that will last

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>>55741344
Not knowing it is not her mistake. The official announcement went out an hour after her tweet.

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>>55740773
Based...

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do you think advent members are happy currently? They could've had a cushy job with caring coworkers and an amazing staff in nijien

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/#/ - genetics and film

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>>55741653
>>55741700
>1 minute apart
Schizos are funny

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>>55741463
It'll be lucky to get 20k unless they stuff the entire branch into the stream.

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>>55741537
Again, you are not getting it. Either look it up on google, ask chatgpt or keep believing in what you were taught at school a decade or two ago

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>>55741390
I will call it
>celebration
I prefer correction

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>>55741482
bvtm trash

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LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

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>>55741757
anon?

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>>55741826
God I want to cuck her husband

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>>55741739
Would you prefer they keep bringing up their delusions? Neither are related to vtubers

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>>55741476
>Cuck
Yeah. your papi.

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>>55740370
>Lol we unicorns right guys? xD

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>>55741771
Anon, I am not talking about mendelian genetics, this anon here >>55740982 already put the recent scientific discoveries.
Notice that that only has the table for people of european descent, with you mix europeans and asians (like in the initial claim, a Choco-SwedishHusband offspring) the chances for brown increase

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>>55741609
hair color blonde eheh young and also eye color grey/blue as toddler

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>>55741739
Gosling talk is always on topic on /vt/

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>>55741482
She just can't sing for shit like Noel. Only Ame is legit tone deaf.

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>>55740370
Winning so fucking hard.

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>>55741888
>seething

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>>55740370
Someone's dying? That's pretty neat.

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All this talk about genetics made me remembered that humans had like 5+ different species before they all died off.

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>>55741912
Weird they only go vtubers that cuck them.

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>>55741968
Yeah literally died from playing too many video games just a while after the SF tournament

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>>55741955
>Larping like the cuck he is

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>>55741999
>>55741968

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>>55741987
>ESL
>Replying to random unrelated posts
>Cuck posting
Anon please this level of seethe can't be healthy for you. You need to take care of yourself or you mother will be disappointed.

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>>55741330
Your autocorrect changed 'Kiara' to 'Cover'. Weird.

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>>55740345
For some reason Yagoo looks a lot more amiable compared to Riku.

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Moomi-chan kawaii

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Homobeggers been real quiet recently. Why is that? Is Advent ignoring da boisss starting to dawn on them about the policy shift?

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>>55740971
>he make this place looks like reddit
because it is since tempus 2 debut

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>>55742047

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>>55741739
Who is the Sound of Freedom of /vt/?

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>>55742131
>still seething
watch streams sister

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Lots of anons sounding old enough, here is a curveball
>are you guys old enough to have played the old DOS games when they came out?
Here is one example: Blood
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjsSYGlxzzY

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All of the Holos come here but why don't they go to reddit too?

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>>55741901
What if they like that woman from Big Trouble in Little China: mongoloid but with green eyes.

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>>55741901
The initial claim was that it was almost impossible to have blue eyes because of dominant/recessive shit and that's completely false. The chances might be lower but still within the realm of possibility, apart from the color being a mix of those

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>>55742166
>are you guys old enough to have played the old DOS games when they came out?
Do you know the title of that Helicopter game you could play in DOS? I think it was Apache something.

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>>55742166
I was playing video games in 97 but I didn't have a PC until like 04

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>>55742098
They went back to trying with ID and JP. Leader has a collab with Kobo and the spic is in Towa song or something.

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>>55742153
Sure thing sis. #Cut4Hex

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>>55742266
>BTVM fag thinks he can fit in

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numberbros, can anyone spoonfeed me the website where I can search for people YT comments?

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>>55742166
>Lots of anons sounding old enough, here is a curveball
>>are you guys old enough to have played the old DOS games when they came out?
My first machine was a ZXSpectrum 48k clone
CGA DOS games were the next step for me

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>>55742298
wesave.chat
it works like 50% of the time

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Ohayou EN4 no minna-san

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>>55742093
proof?

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>>55742333
thanks, anon

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>>55742235
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YShAE66NSxk
This one?
I used to play this back when Win95 was still a thing

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>>55742176
because it's full of flips

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>>55742266
Seriously, if you are one person then please leave and never come back. Your # shit is fucking obnoxious and unnecessary here. If you want to shit on Nijis then use there numbers, but you don't so I can only assume you have some ulterior motive...

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>>55742166
My first DOS game was Zool

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>>55742289
>dumb anon lacks the necessary information
Retard-kun...

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>>55742072
>you mother will be disappointed.

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>>55742372
Just like my Tony Hawk games...

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>>55742406
>uses gura image to cry about male e-celeb dying
you are literally not white

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>>55742386
>>55741968

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>>55742187
>The chances might be lower but still within the realm of possibility,
Anon, look again at >>55740982. the chances for a TC between two european people is 7%, meaning seven out of every hundred births.

You are mistaking probability of highly repeatable evens with probability of sporadic events.
Given the rarity of blue eyed people, it is very rare for a blue eyed / brown eyed couple to be observed AND observed having offspring.
As for the table at >>55740982, for each 100 offsprings observed only 7 would have blue eyes.

If you were talking about peas, in which you just seed an entire field of course seven out of one hundred is in the "realm of possibilities" but, given that this is spontaneous human being pairing, for a person to be the one to witness a brown eye / blue eye couple produce a blue eyed offspring is "almost impossible" because said person won't be witnessing a hundred of those, they will witness one or two in their lifetime and those will unavoidably be brown eyed

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>>55742235
The atari one in Iraq? Isometric apache war simulator what was the name

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take ur time

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>>55742166
I didn't play Blood when it came out, but I did play Jazz Jackrabbit and Duke Nukem 3D on a relative's computer in the late 90s. My family had an NES and N64 at the time, so I was mostly playing old NES games and whatever games we decided to rent at the time like SMB/Duck Hunt, Double Dragon, Goldeneye 007, and Super Mario 64.

[Anonymous No.]

>>55742098
The jap posting and the "Death of Omega" have likely gotten them on the back foot, alongside Advent being pretty anti-Holostars so far. Like, all of them have just said "Cute girls" and outside of some pity follow-backs from ONE member, they've been completely ignored.

[Anonymous No.]

>>55740611
who is this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>55742339
>RHOMBUS RIGGER
Gura's Arch Nemesis!!!!!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>55741739
MOST

[Anonymous No.]

Are the twin dogs and bijou still not following any homos (besides Tower)?

[Anonymous No.]

>>55742047
>>55742454
Stop (you)ing me, you stupid faggots, I don't know what the fuck you're even trying to prove.

[Anonymous No.]

>>55742441
>Using Fauna's image to mock the dead
Worse than scum

[Anonymous No.]

>>55742507
The cat that you dont talk about with Okayu

[Anonymous No.]

>>55740370
NEVER BEEN BETTER

[Anonymous No.]

I like ophelia

[Anonymous No.]

>>55742565
>mock the dead
be whiter

[Anonymous No.]

>>55742537
INFLUENTIAL

[Anonymous No.]

>17k subs
>9k CCV

[Anonymous No.]

>>55742590
is she a hag? she sounds like one

[Anonymous No.]

>>55742599
THREAD

[Anonymous No.]

>>55742590
Who?

[Anonymous No.]

>>55742415
>Implying a minor typo is somehow equivalent to complete grammatical mistakes and missing words

[Anonymous No.]

>Koshihen starts tomorrow
should I just stay away from /#/ until Monday?

[Anonymous No.]

>>55742594
>Twitter-like behaviour
Pathetic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>55742554
They're still clean

[Anonymous No.]

>>55742365
Damn I really don't remember but I kinda feel like that's the one. Fucking hell in my mind the graphics looked better.

[Anonymous No.]

>>55742671
>still seething

[Anonymous No.]

>>55742615
If you want to discuss numbers you’re in the wrong thread. Wrong site if you want to discuss jp numbers. Post an avatar with a buzz word or talk about something unrelated to vtubers to fit in

[Anonymous No.]

>>55740562

The bladerunner remake is mediocre. Ive accidentally watched it in 2022 on tv. One of the most overhyped pieces of cinematography ive seen in the last 10 years. Its telling that vtuber simps chose to selfinsert into such a boring movie as a metaphor for their mundane mainstream lifes. People who defend this unironically watch Seinfeld. Complete normie garbo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>55742471 (me)
The series should be Desert Strike?

[Anonymous No.]

Oh hey, when did Psycho reach 2 Million? Already at 2.1 million, this is one of the faster growing EN originals recently isn't it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>55742166
Here one of the best games from that era
>Descent 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5kfTqNJ_vw&t=406s

It had complete three axis freedom meaning there was no "up", you could rotate your ship in any direction in the three dimensions.
It was so realistic it would cause motion sickness even on people shoulder surfing it.

Neat game

[Anonymous No.]

>>55742700
>Still trying

[Anonymous No.]

>>55742720
It's a sequel

[Anonymous No.]

>>55742166
Yes, but I never did. Instead, I played SNES games on emulator in the late 1990s/early 2000s because I grew up poor-ish, but not too poor, and piracy was a blessing that enabled me to play games that I otherwise wouldn't have had the money to get myself or for my parents to buy for me. Nowadays, I don't pirate nearly as much since I don't need to.

[Anonymous No.]

>>55742732
It have good reach. The other day I even saw Touhou fanarts inspired by it

[Anonymous No.]

>>55740971
just watched this in 2x speed
>no dimitri jap-posting
how? he was one of yhe highlight of en3 stuffs

[Anonymous No.]

>>55742744
>Still trying
The irony from this little brown boy

[Anonymous No.]

>>55742720
Fuck you towafrog poster.

[Anonymous No.]

>anon trying his best to "fit in" with the 4chan crowd by being edgy and putting his best "unicorn" impersonation so he can generate material for dramafags to cover

[Anonymous No.]

>Enter numberfag general thread
>anons are having hour long slap fights
>...
>Leave numberfag general thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>55742732
It’s the only recent original with Mori’s 2 recent ones and Gura’s shitpost op. And unless Gura’s stop growing after a million it’s about the same speed

[Anonymous No.]

>>55740939
Comiket table number and selen dexerto news in catalog made them extra angry. Basically a nothingburger raid

[Anonymous No.]

>>55742456
7% vs 0% from mendelian inheritance, yes it's within the realm of possibility
OP posted a chart that was completely wrong so I corrected him. It's up to you whether you want to claim 7% is the same as 0%

[Anonymous No.]

The fact that teamates pretty much all use gosling shows that they all also happen to be cancer that can neither enjoy a chuuba without falling into love or go full tilt into delusion zone for GFE
In other words they are losers starved for attention that can't commit

[Anonymous No.]

>>55742785
>The sheer mental retardation on display

[Anonymous No.]

>>55742843
thanks, I made it myself

[Anonymous No.]

>>55742166
I played a few old games on DOS like Descent and Magic Carpet. Didn't play Blood though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>55742555
He (you)'d me too based trips anon, I think he is just throwing things at the wall. Don't let him turn this place into his schizo playground.

[Anonymous No.]

>>55742869
You are correct in the percentages and correct on calling anon chart as inaccurate.
It doesn't really "correct" the original statement tho, only the invalid evidence anon posted to back it.
A better explanation would be
>brown eye / blue eye couples will almost always produce a brown eyed offspring and observing a blue eyed offspring is rare enough to be considered a freak event

[Anonymous No.]

>>55742893
>exposed himself at BTVMfag
>keeps trying
the next meme image might convince people bro

[Anonymous No.]

I want to lick the ground Shiori walked on. The seat Shiori sat on. Breathe in the same air Shiori breathed in. I want to eat with the same utensils Shiori used to eat with.

[Anonymous No.]

>>55742720
I like the visuals. that's pretty much it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>55740315
I thought those were used condoms on her staff at first.

[Anonymous No.]

>>55742976

[Anonymous No.]

>>55741987
I remember when original Goslings were Onigiriya, Ichimi and Nakigumi. Good times.

[Anonymous No.]

>>55742720
It was overhyped but for a movie released in the past 15 years, it was incredible.

[Anonymous No.]

>>55743061
still brown

[Anonymous No.]

>>55740315
If only this woman was a vchuba, she would be my oshi.

[Anonymous No.]

>>55743069
The initial one was a masterpiece because it was ahead of it's time.
The new one was just rethreading a myriad of similarly themed movies
>S1mone (2002)
>Her (2013)
among others

[Anonymous No.]

>>55743076
Still a retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>55743158
E-celeb is still dead

[Anonymous No.]

>>55742978
I wanna be that magazine that she bases life on
wanna waste her monthly blood
wanna get some on my love
wanna get some gasoline
AND BURN HER HOUSE DO-O-OWN
She's got nothing to say
She's got pills to pay
She's got no one to hate
Except for me!
>https://youtu.be/hm1cnPUGFQE

[Anonymous No.]

Are we declining?

[Anonymous No.]

SHE DID IT!

[Anonymous No.]

>>55742974
Half the time is not "almost always" though

[Anonymous No.]

I wonder if that Gura/Mumei stream from a week ago woulda been 30k+ without advent overlap

Solid premise.
Rare pairing
17k likes on twitter for some reason just for the stream announcement

[Anonymous No.]

>>55743231
ENsharts shitting up the thread earlier than usual, so yes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>55743308
>frog

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>55743232
she moomin

[Anonymous No.]

>>55741691
>>55741826
WHERE
WHEN

[Anonymous No.]

what caused this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>55743261
Mumei's shitty mic filtered people tho

[Anonymous No.]

>>55743243
For an european blue/brown couple the chance for blue is 7%, about half brown and green in the remaining probability space.
For a euro-asian mixed couple I would be very curious to see the same table because the number of green eyed asians is very reduced for it to be as prevalent as in the european couple case.
One can EASILY make an assumption, based on observed cases, that brown will be a whole lot more than 56% for asian/european couples.
If the example was not "Choco / Swedish man" you would be 100% correct, green eye offsprings are very common in europe where brown eyed european population and blue eyed european population share a geographical area.

[Anonymous No.]

>>55743494
Dangerous third world smell

[Anonymous No.]

>>55743494
Bahasa Indonesia

[Anonymous No.]

>>55743494
Only thing I can imagine is that someone raided the waiting room

[Anonymous No.]

>>55741387
i thought moona and some of the other id girls told her not to come here (which was implied here and not directly given a name) but she did anyway and saw people talking major shit about her then got really sad and even talked about it on stream.

[Anonymous No.]

If you have time, listen to my cute owlwife make cute noises while eating cute Japanese snacks. It's cute.
https://www.youtube.com/live/uTavTLA9Oac?feature=share

[Anonymous No.]

[Miraculous News] AZKi said she needed water, it immediately started raining

[Anonymous No.]

>>55743494
Ollie redirect

[Anonymous No.]

>>55742732
it hit 2 million sometime last week so not that long ago

[Anonymous No.]

I miss my wife

[Anonymous No.]

>>55743617
What block is she using for all that white space?

[Anonymous No.]

>>55743698
Alas, her health.....
I wonder if it was bad enough that she was on a respirator for an extended period of time, 'cause damn, I can't really think of much else that would take this long to recover from.

[Anonymous No.]

>>55742737
Hey, I remember watching Amiya play it!

[Anonymous No.]

>>55743518
Even if its more common i've only met like 5 people with green eyes

[Anonymous No.]

Wheres kobo after the small leak lol
Did they silence her?

[Anonymous No.]

>>55743698

[Anonymous No.]

>>55741344
>Korone made the mistake of not knowing this and congratulating him when he was already dead
LMAO
That's fucking hilarious

[Anonymous No.]

>>55743804

[Anonymous No.]

Ame said she's a cover's bootlicker. Now that CGDCT faction won, i'll wait for her contribution to the cause.

[Anonymous No.]

>>55743764
she pissed herself on stream?

[Anonymous No.]

>ummm akshully, blue eyes and blonde hair are a recessive tr-ACK!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>55743764
>Kobo's small leak

[Anonymous No.]

>>55743763
Depends on the region, in my little corner of Europe it is more prevalent than blue eyes

[Anonymous No.]

>>55743764
Retraining. She'll be more competent by tomorrow. I promise it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>55743804
It's unfortunate, and she had no actual way of knowing since as this anon said, they tweet stating the bloke had died happened only shortly after >>55741716
Also, it sounds like a freak heart incident, the kind of thing that took our Murata. Sometimes, shit just happens.

[Anonymous No.]

>>55742843
>anons are having hour long slap fights
This is what happens when you let sub-humans get too comfortable /here/. Remember there's at least 16% retarded anons and 14% trollfags ITT.

[Anonymous No.]

I can't get fwmc morning BGM out of my head

[Anonymous No.]

kek
>anon took one step too far into the TRUE RULE 2 zone

[Anonymous No.]

>>55743934
Good things happen to good people

[Anonymous No.]

>>55743966

[Anonymous No.]

>>55743850
Amelias always been a cover shill doing what they ask
>EN management wants males pushed
>Ame pushes them multiple collabs
>EN management doesnt want them pushed
>collabs stop and doesnt even remember some of their names

[Anonymous No.]

>>55743865
Nah, she called her manager a retard in Japanese

[Anonymous No.]

>>55743966
You can get ganked if "someone's" not in a good mood? GRIM.

[Anonymous No.]

>>55743850
gurame back on the menu

[Anonymous No.]

>>55742776
I feel like these channels are just waiting to see if Vesper will return or not, the dimitri saga will be funnier this way

[Anonymous No.]

Observe this cute bundle of joy

[Anonymous No.]

I don't care what anyone says, I'm happy that the e-celeb died.

[Anonymous No.]

Here's the list of akasupa strength, from weakest to strongest. Equivalent value is given in yen, which is a good median.

>ARS-504
>BRL-2923
>TWD-6772
>MXN-8298
>NZD-8643
>HKD-9074
>AUD-9337
>IDR-9355
>YEN-10,000
>SGD-10,585
>CAD-10,590
>KRW-10,870
>NOK-13,980
>USD-14,328
>MYR-15,561
>EUR-15,629
>GBP-18,079

[Anonymous No.]

>>55744231
Nice, I knew GBP was really strong but is it actually the strongest?

[Anonymous No.]

>>55744196
your oshi will die and there's nothing you can do to stop it

[Anonymous No.]

>>55744231
Yurogods, where we at?

[Anonymous No.]

>>55744231
is sad looking Yen between Idr and Sgd

[Anonymous No.]

>>55743764
No shit, look at what she said

[Anonymous No.]

Wait I’m confused. I know Shiori’s stream was titled ASMR but I thought she decided to turn it off and not use it yesterday, but I see people on twitter talking about her asmr and how good it was

Did she actually use it? The time I tuned in it was like any other stream

[Anonymous No.]

>>55744231
>MYR-15,561
Surprised about this. Their currency is strong?

[Anonymous No.]

>>55744196
Holy based, unichads stay winning

[Anonymous No.]

>>55744315
kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>55744196
who died and why is it relevant?

[Anonymous No.]

>>55744324
She STARTED with superchat reading for some god-forsaken reading, though after that some anons said it was less asmr and more soft-talking. What do I know though, I was watching something else at the time and only glanced at the thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>55744403
Can't remember the fags name and wont bother learning because he is currently rotting but he played in the SF tournament with Korone and Botan

[Anonymous No.]

>>55744324
>Did she actually use it?
No.
>but I see people on twitter talking about her asmr and how good it was
Huffing copium like everyone else has been doing with this gen for some reason. I get saying they liked the stream/stories she read/how she read it but to call it ASMR just because she labeeld it ASMR is fucking stupid

[Anonymous No.]

[Sad News] AZKi fucked up

[Anonymous No.]

>>55744442
yeah, miscounted the blocks, no?

[Anonymous No.]

>>55744353
It's specifically the equivalent cash required for an akasupa, so currency amount shenanigans might be in play there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>55744231
at first glance i thought those were jav codes

[Anonymous No.]

>>55744196
Remember, whenever someone says ecelebs are people, they are showing support for people like Baked Alaska and that fat gay Ukrainian who takes pics of his asshole.

[Anonymous No.]

>>55741976
We ate and fucked them out of existance.

[Anonymous No.]

[Good News] AZKi is making ah~ sounds while calling out Shion's surname

[Anonymous No.]

>>55742252
Him being in Towa's song wasn't what people got upset about, it was him being selected by Towa inatead of Mumei.

[Anonymous No.]

>>55742510
No. The true Gura killer will have her as her rigger. It has been prophecized.

[Anonymous No.]

[Important news] AZKI asmr tomorrow

[Anonymous No.]

HoloEN btw
https://twitter.com/BluezKaito/status/1689674373320552448

[Anonymous No.]

https://twitter.com/moricalliope/status/1689667925626515457
https://twitter.com/moricalliope/status/1689667925626515457
Mori number go up

[Anonymous No.]

[Sad News] AZKi is ending. The good news is that the next stream is ASMR

[Anonymous No.]

Uglybastardchads... we won.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rt00YZGd7WQ

[Anonymous No.]

>>55744681
FUCK I'M AT WORK THEN

[Anonymous No.]

>>55744505

[Anonymous No.]

>>55744606
I like Towa but that is just retarded. It shows her priorities and not in a good way.

[Anonymous No.]

Gura is awake and active on Twitter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>55744606
It's one person per branch retard. Bae was chosen over Mumei, the spic was the obligatory tempiss pick.

[Anonymous No.]

>>55744539
vtubers are ecelebs too

[Anonymous No.]

>>55744496
An akasupa in MYR is RM300 from what I looked up, and that when converted is 9,479 yen, not sure how that anon got 15,561 yen

[Anonymous No.]

>>55744764
Remember, DO NOT LEWD SUISEI. SHE DOESN'T LIKE IT AT ALL. NOT EVEN A LITTLE BIT.

[Anonymous No.]

Why do soratomos, 35p and pioneers post here anyway
Where are the hoshiyomi and robosa

[Anonymous No.]

>>55744769
>another Holocure stream incoming
Inaff.

[Anonymous No.]

>>55744815
Then I'm confused, perhaps they made a mistake in their conversion then.

[Anonymous No.]

>>55744818

[Anonymous No.]

>>55744769
GURA HOLCURE??? IMAGINE THE NUMBERS!

[Anonymous No.]

>>55744852
nerissa...

[Anonymous No.]

>>55744769
I'm pretty sure she said today was a guaranteed no stream day

[Anonymous No.]

>>55744769
Incoming power-bomb right on top of 'rissa. Again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>55744845

[Anonymous No.]

>>55744809
No. I've been over this before so I won't write a big ass paragraph, but an online celebrity is very different from an eceleb. Think the difference between an actor famous for doing great movies versus an actor who is just tabloid bait.

[Anonymous No.]

>>55744913
but Nerissa is streaming that means she has to stream too

[Anonymous No.]

>>55744818
Okaaay

[Anonymous No.]

Disgusting behavior by everyone here celebrating a death.

[Anonymous No.]

JWU NijiEN status?

[Anonymous No.]

>>55744903
She has nobody to blame but herself for throwing herself into shark infested waters and playing nothing but debuff games.

[Anonymous No.]

>>55744690
kek

[Anonymous No.]

Is Gura going to watch Kaela play holocure or will she avoid the spoilers?

[Anonymous No.]

>>55744695
And only peaked at 9.1k
Block game fell off hard

[Anonymous No.]

>>55744845
The Robosa (one(1(single))) goes to global

[Anonymous No.]

>>55744993
kek, kind of brutal

[Anonymous No.]

>>55744792
That doesn't make it much better, but at least Bae and Towa have made stuff together before.
I wonder who Bae will snag from Mumei next?

[Anonymous No.]

>>55744845
The hoshiyomi are busing watching Astel

[Anonymous No.]

>>55744999
Map art is not the same number driver than a full server with the impromptu encounter by the girls

[Anonymous No.]

>>55740021
Data analysts tend to know nothing about Vtubers and nerd culture in general I'm afraid. We know it would never work but some outsiders would look into luxiem numbers and say "hey there's a market over there why is Cover missing on this fat fujoyuans?"

[Anonymous No.]

>>55745027
Mumei and Towa had a couple of meme passion English collabs several months ago. Bae has been courting Towa in Japan for ages now.

[Anonymous No.]

[Sad News] Mel is talking very cutely about bad customer service at a combini(?) .... chat is siding with the shopkeep!

[Anonymous No.]

>>55744717
She's right, this remake is soulless.

[Anonymous No.]

>>55745061
Now I think about it a company being under attack from a country is pretty uncommon isn't it?

[Anonymous No.]

>ichimin are 30% female
fucking how?

[Anonymous No.]

>>55742339
speaking of, i wonder why Cover stopped hiring Rariemonn to rig the new debuts. honestly his Irys and Moom rigs weren't that bad compared to the duds Keffiy has been rigging lately (Axel, rpr, and Nerissa)

[Anonymous No.]

>>55745122
Meru no...
Your fans betrayed you...

[Anonymous No.]

>>55744913
She said she won't stream today, unless she does.

[Anonymous No.]

>>55745061
>>55745132
You guys are confusing "data analysts" with "external consultants". The former just take the data you have and crunch it into easily digestible reports.
The later are the ones with market experience and that give their input on how you should be running your shop, based on the data crunched by the analysts

[Anonymous No.]

>>55745122
mel is a karen...

[Anonymous No.]

>>55745145
confident girls attract other girls as audiences
also it's not 30% out of the total, just of the people who responded so obviously it's going to be self selecting for the most dedicated

[Anonymous No.]

>>55745145
idk. maybe the strong independent person vibe attracts women.

[Anonymous No.]

>>55745145
I too am a female, anontachi~

[Anonymous No.]

>>55745159
They should just contact that rigging guild, their work isn't bad

[Anonymous No.]

>>55745122
>>55745185
She deserves it after her shameful display in the Valorant tournament. It's not surprising that many of her fans have started to hate her since then.

[Anonymous No.]

>>55745145
webm related. She became an icon among the cute japanese tiktok girls because of her MVs and dances

[Anonymous No.]

>>55745145
the red color attracts females

[Anonymous No.]

>>55745242
Explain that bulging thing

[Anonymous No.]

>>55745145
peak femininity but not in a bad, rotten way

[Anonymous No.]

>>55745284
Ah, Mori-chan kakkoi now makes sense

[Anonymous No.]

>>55745242
post tits

[Anonymous No.]

Is the new pioneer going to be in the update too?

[Anonymous No.]

>>55743966
naah it's just the same troon janny who leaves baits and schizo posts but deletes funposting
oh and god forbid if its something positive
that's why we tend to go slower
they maliciously ban holofans

[Anonymous No.]

>>55745262
She reminds me of Minami Sato who got posted here a couple of threads ago.

[Anonymous No.]

>>55745317
Mori is pink, not read
To test that we need to figure out Bae's female audience percentage

[Anonymous No.]

>>55745296
It's a banana, wanna taste it~?

[Anonymous No.]

>>55745372
This chick? I don't know their names, maybe it was some other anon

[Anonymous No.]

you guys ever find it odd how we are consistently faster than the jp thread even during jp prime time?

[Anonymous No.]

kronii 900k in to 10 days

[Anonymous No.]

>>55745027
Towa likes Bae a ton

[Anonymous No.]

>>55745243
Brian Tsui and the Iron Vertex group? i agree with that!

[Anonymous No.]

>>55745426
No retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>55745243
Iron Vertex?
They have, for some stuff already.

[Anonymous No.]

>>55745413
That fat kid in the background mogged her, ngl.

[Anonymous No.]

>>55745343
yes
https://www.reddit.com/r/holocure/comments/13hnfg3/new_pioneer_mascot_added_to_holocure/

[Anonymous No.]

>>55745159
way I heard he got swamped with work and couldn't keep up

[Anonymous No.]

>>55742098
They’re still worried about the two homos since they got no update on the month anniversary of their suspension.

[Anonymous No.]

I bet none of the EOPs upvoting or commenting in the TTRPG homo collab thread are gonna watch it lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>55744231
Missing DKK which is one of the most expensive reds.

[Anonymous No.]

>>55745343
Depends, though to be honest a sprite swap wouldn't be the most difficult thing to do. It'll just depend on if it got slipped in there at the last moment or if it's on the pile of stuff for 0.7.

[Anonymous No.]

>>55745426
No, that thread is half dead, only most stubborn last samurais still stay in there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>55744845
Global is Myth-gen, /hlg/ is unusable due to the lack of moderation for the schizophrenics, ホロリブ is a dead thread, and this thread used to be fairly slow but JP focused during JP hours before it started going the way of /hlg/ due to unchecked schizophrenics and BVTM shitposters who felt welcome because NijiEN was scoffed at.

[Anonymous No.]

>>55745498
lol that's what I thought too. She should be ashamed.