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Why is Mori now the runt of EN?
Is it really unicorns winning?

>> No.55723844

>Now

>> No.55723936

>unicorns winning
>kobo and ame doing better than her
retard

>> No.55724080

>>55723818
>unicorns
You think Mori's audience used to be mostly unicorns, OP?

>> No.55724084

>>55723818
Runt of EN is Bae

>> No.55724109

Momento Mori

>> No.55724240

>Not even the maximum views or each stream
>Mori is the 2nd most subbed EN and has her UMG deal
Why do you idiots do this?

>> No.55724280

>>55723818
>Why is Mori now the runt of EN?
Too many mistakes. Too many male collabs. She might be able to recover but only after at least a solid year of good behavior.

>> No.55724329

>>55723818
>Is it really unicorns winning?
That would imply that her initial audience consisted of unicorns, which you'll have a hard time convincing me of. I'd say it's just people gradually dropping her because she's boring.

>> No.55724357

>>55723818
Sad to see it because Mori has changed a lot. People liked her the most when she was a piece of shit that took Hololive for granted because she auditioned as a joke and it was nothing but a stepping stone for her musical career. Now that she's become more mellow and sweet, now people don't like her. I don't get it. I guess the change came too late.

>> No.55724466

>>55723818
how is shiori so popular despite having the least amount of subs in advent

>> No.55724494

>>55724357
she was humble on the first year of HoloEN, and then she became too big headed and fight against her own viewers with the connor, lean, ntr art incident, so they left and never come back even if she is "better and mellow" now

>> No.55724512

>>55724466
Memes

>> No.55724546

>holo vs holo

>> No.55724574

>>55724466
Her model is sex, and she’s great at playing into the unhinged menhera gf role play

>> No.55724599

>>55724280
>Too many male collabs
Since when has that mattered with Mori?

>> No.55724603

>>55724466
Don't worry, she's working on getting less views.

>> No.55724643

>>55724357
Anyone that would care about the change fucked off at the height of her popularity in 2021 when the fame and succes was going to her head and she decided to act like a complete retard.
Unfortunately for her, she only had ironic weebs/the TT crowd left as fans. And those people got bored of vtubers or fuckednoff to vtubers that pander to her with low brow content.
>>55724466
She's now the one attracting the ironic weeb crowd. They won't stick around. Just look at Ollie and Mori.

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>>55723818

>> No.55724691

Everyone knows she's a double dipper and people left.
Even JP fans are aware.

>> No.55724699

>>55724599
>Since when has that mattered with Mori?
Look at her numbers after the Tempus "popular demand" shitshow. It apparently does matter.

>> No.55724718

>>55724699
see >>55724329.

>> No.55724904

>>55724718
You don't need to be a unicorn to balk at Mori lying about non-existent popular demand for Tempus collabs and going full speed ahead with trying to turn Holo EN into Nijisanji.

>> No.55724975

>>55724904
that sounds more in line with what people ITT have been saying about mori being an unlikable arrogant douchebag more so than "unicorns winning".

>> No.55725307

>People just don't feel like watching Mori. They'll catch the VOD later.
Wow, that was so hard.
>KDAMAG
lmao

>> No.55725390

>>55725307
Nice cope.

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>>55723818
>Is it really unicorns winning?
Always have been

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>>55723818
>One of the few 2M streamers in Hololive
>Not even half of Kiara's CCV
Uh, Kobokeks? Care to explain?

>> No.55725551

>>55723818
>is it really unicorns
Yes. Don't pay attention to what casual viewers say outwardly. How people really feel will always be reflected in the numbers.

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>>55723818
dont worry she is cycling 500 bots at all times to make sure she never hits 3v

>> No.55725666

>>55725508
>look at Bijou
>she's still streaming
They just started the streams

>> No.55725667

>>55724466
Debut buff, asshat. It always lasts a month for most Vtubers besides Homofaggots.

>> No.55725851

>>55724357
Fan dropoff takes time. It was her behavior back then that caused this current situation.

>>55724466
Misleading image. Her CCV dropped into sub-7k when the Pokemon tourney began in earnest, while Fauna got above 12k. With her upcoming 9-day break and more debuff content, she'll probably drop to become a 5k streamer after the honeymoon period. Her model is sex and she's rather unique in Hololive, but in terms of pure entertainment she has room to grow. We'll see in about 6 months where she lands.
(I say this as someone who enjoys her content btw.)

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>>55725508
Most of her viewer still at school anon, it's 10 AM in ID.
And it's bait screenshot taken at the beginning of the stream. Her real number still bellow Kiara though.

>> No.55726023

>>55725880
Pekora and Fauna are the queens.

>> No.55726676

>>55723818
It's nothing about yabs, Mori is just hard to watch. Try watching her streams you will be bored guaranteed

>> No.55726783

>>55723818
remember when retards in # thought shiroi's ASMR was going to get 40k lmaoooo it didn't even do better numbers than fuwamoco playing a typing game.
EN viewers do not care about gfe.

>> No.55727135

>>55726783
Anon GFE fags instantly realized she's the second coming of Kronii and aren't about to get burned a second time.
If anything I'm amazed there's still enough of them left who didn't learn their lesson.

>> No.55727287

Some people would rather watch other Holos. I'd rather watch Mori. It's not a contest. As long as everyone streaming and watching has fun, but sure, troonicorns can try to make it about outrage over males or something.

>> No.55727657

>>55725639
>Retarded numberfag can't comprehend that YT doesn't count viewers with multiple streams open
>Retarded numberfag can't comprehend that Mori has a viewerbase outside of NA
>Retarded numberfag cries "bot" whenever numbers contradict his dumb narrative
You know for guys fixated on CCV sure do have a weak grasp on how it actually works

>> No.55727723

>>55723818
As a numberfag I feel a bit bad for her. She really has sacrificed her dignity for numbers and this is the result. I guess clickbait doesn't get you loyal fans

>> No.55727993

>>55723818
>Runt
>Still swimming in easy money

>> No.55728089

>>55723818
Wow, even less than ID, that’s… wow. Guess without having Gura to leech off of she really wasn’t that entertaining.

>> No.55728203

>>55724357
she seemed very sure of herself when she initiated the male collabs and all the shit happening prior. I get everyone makes mistakes and I do think people are too hard on her but as the old saying goes, you reap what you sow.

It’s just a shame she dragged other girls down with her.

>> No.55728300

>>55723818
Years of training taught me to not tune into a mori game stream if I don't want to be frustrated
I still listen to her music

>> No.55728315

Why do SEA people love the word "runt"

>> No.55728469
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55728469

>>55728089
Getting mogged by holoID is one thing.
Imagine getting mogged by fucking Millie.

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>>55728315
Limited vocabulary, "runt" probably translates best from whatever word they like to use in their native fish-man language
>>55728469
>Imagine getting mogged by fucking Millie
But she didn't tho
Why does anti-mori have to cherry pick and stack their own deck as hard possible to try her look bad?
It's legit hilarious just a bunch of retards in an echo-chamber doing their best to deny reality

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>>55723818
>>/vt/image/NFhIgaQNQNz1Tq/rtUX9QA
What's the point of spamming these kinds of screenshots all over the board? Your schizo crusade isn't going to change reality, anon.

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>>55728735
>Please ignore how that peak happened at the very start of her stream because shiori raided her and those people instantly fucked off
Thanks for making me check. This is even funnier.

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>>55728894
>>Please ignore how that peak happened at the very start of her stream because shiori raided her
Based retard non-stream watcher, Shiori didn't raid her kek
>those people instantly fucked off
That's just youtube being shit at counting as usual, spiking up an influx of her normal viewers coming into the stream, then removing them, then gradually adding them back over time
Again, for a group of people obessed with sucking YT's cock and CCV, you have literally zero idea how it actually works

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55729467

Uh, yes? The attempt to fuse vtubing with nigger culture isn't an attempt to improve vtubing, it's an attempt to kill it so that White McMale will kill himself 20 minutes sooner because humanity hungers for war like the stupid, unworthy child race it is. Yes the Japanese people want to keep making money and not just give valuable thing for free to activists who have nothing to do with them or their entire history.

>this isn't what's happening because this take is scary you can't just shoot a hole into the surface of politics
save it for the 20-somethings who have no money in it

>> No.55729538

>>55729314
Man this cope is hilarious.
You can clearly see millie mogging her. Next you'll tell me youtube has an inside man sabotaging her. And that she wasn't the least watched EN today.

>> No.55729593

>>55723818
What I get from this is people are willing to watch any Holomem(they are hako-oshi, so to speak), but if they have to choose, the whores are gonna get dumped.

>> No.55729653

>>55724643
Oh great, it's the ironic weeb schizo

>> No.55729882

>>55729538
>Man this cope is hilarious.
It's so funny how you guys just surrender when presented with any counterfactuals "c-cope!!" make an argument, limpdick
> Next you'll tell me youtube has an inside man sabotaging her. And that she wasn't the least watched EN today.
No, I'll tell you to look at the fucking numbers that show she's was the actually viewed >>55725639
I'd explain how watching multiple streams at once fucks with CCV, or how there's context within a tournament setting and that viewer will gravitate to who think will have the best gameplay, but it'd be a waste of time since you're clearly just gonna shit and piss your diaper when presented with information that doesn't fit your narrative

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>>55723818
>runt

>> No.55730714

>>55723818
>>>/vt//#/
Please keep it in the numbers thread

>> No.55730744

>>55729882
>>55730154
Cope.

>> No.55730997

>>55730744
Very ironic post.

>> No.55731411

>>55730997
At the end of the day her ccv is still in the shitter.
And no, those 5 minute peaks caused by advent raids don't represent the entire stream's viewership.

>> No.55731863

>>55731411
At the end of the day she's still the most viewed EN this month and pretty much every month since almost the beginning of her career. I'm afraid that having low ccv on some streams won't change that fact. If deluding yourself by making threads like this helps you cope then carry on.

>> No.55731937

>>55731863
>She's the most popular holoEN ever bro CCV is fake shit nobody knows who Gura is
>Trust me

>> No.55732019

>>55724240
Welcome to /vt/. Try not to step in the dogshit.
I mean that literally btw, >>55555573 was up for like half an hour

>> No.55732307

>Kiara #2 ccv in EN
The fuq happened?

>> No.55732411

>>55732307
Hololive is healing.

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>>55731937
>She's the most popular holoEN ever bro
I mean...

>> No.55733307

>>55729882
Youtube verifies vod views at different speeds for every channel after streams. Fauna's vod currently has almost double the views compared to mori's vod. Mori has consistently performed the worst in multiple pov collabs

>> No.55733416

>>55732307
Bijou raided her
Without that Kiara would be the lowest one in EN

>> No.55734469

>>55733416
>People raid Kiara
>Viewers stay
>Shiori raids Mori after her karaoke
>20k People fuck off
Skill issue

>> No.55734644

>>55734469
How do you explain people staying in her Night Security stream?

>> No.55735217

>>55734644
Anon. Stats show 61% of the raiders didn't stay in the waiting room.

>> No.55735291

>Idiot still doesn't realize he's in a containment thread.
>still trying to create his own echochamber outside of reality.

>> No.55735988

>>55723936
>>55723818
>Kiara doing better than all of them
It's finally paying off for her

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