YASS GIRL, SLAY

[Anonymous No.]

>Will ban you for anything remotely sexual
>"I'm actually asexual"
>Announce collab with a purple sex pest Tempiss who tried to slide into Holotori but get btfo'd by new Advent singer
Do Idols really?
https://twitter.com/RinPenrose/status/1689028242299092992

[Anonymous No.]

why can't this bitch just do gfe and be rich it's not that hard

[Anonymous No.]

>>55600062
>>but get btfo'd by new Advent singer
When?

[Anonymous No.]

>>55600062
Yeah when you're asexual it makes you able to collab with people and not think about sticking his dick into your vagina or vice versa, in fact you're able to not think about whether the collab partner is a guy or a girl at all.

[Anonymous No.]

Rin bait thread #7, idol is winning hard tonight

[Anonymous No.]

>>55600062
Yikes
To think someone tried to shill me this corpo as unicorn-friendly

[Anonymous No.]

>>55600062
It must be weird for an "asexual" to have so many men fantsize about raping her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>55600062
Weak bait. Hakka isn't a sex pest, you're thinking of Vesper, who is currently missing because he cheated with Magni's gf and the two are now not on speaking terms. Cover can't force them to stream in their current state so they're putting them in the timeout corner until they can work things out between themselves.

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>>55600876
The only safe company is kawaii

[Anonymous No.]

>>55600062
the other thread worded identically to this is still on the front page faggot, did you not get the (you) you wanted?

[Anonymous No.]

>do not hire any males
>monkey's paw

[Anonymous No.]

>>55601136
nobody watches hakka so they don't know he's literally got the mind of a child, he plays with toys and plays in sprinklers and talks like he's about 12

[Anonymous No.]

>>55601136
>sister's revisionism
Is this how you cope to your sinking branch? Soon Bettel will join those two in the grave too and kill it for good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>55601136
Hakka is a homobeggar himself, he has publicly said how it would be cool if he could collab with the holoEN girls.

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>>55600062
>who tried to slide into Holotori
This never happened no matter how many times you gaslight yourself, trannycorn.

>>55601732
I genuinely have to wonder if Aviel foresaw this before making that tweet.
He wouldn't have wrote it the way he did if that wasn't the case.

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>>55602271
Don't think you can memoryhole his whole spiel about holotori just because it's in spic, homobeggar.

[Anonymous No.]

>>55602062
hakka is a homobeggar but plesu andustand it's because he is not /here/ and has the mind of annoying 10 year old, he doesn't understand unicorns or homobegging at all

[Anonymous No.]

>>55601644
Untrue, they don’t ban male collabs, only one-on-one collabs
>>55600876
They are unicorn friendly, they have 2 chuubas who do male collabs and the rest have all said they don’t want to do male collabs (or strongly implied, but some of the girls explicitly said “i don’t want to do male collabs”)

[Anonymous No.]

>>55602271
https://files.catbox.moe/ese53v.webm
wait, so is this clip of him bragging about being the first male holotori member just a figment of my imagination?

[Anonymous No.]

>>55603299
>https://files.catbox.moe/ese53v.webm
>I am not in holotori
>direct quote
kys

[Anonymous No.]

>>55602271
>>55603299
OH NO NO NO NO NO NO
Homokeks, your response
>inb4 I don't speak wallnigger
Onions el primer Holotori MACHO

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>>55603379
Nigga he said “i am not just a member of holotori, i am the first *male member of holotori”… watch the entire fucking clip retard, the spanish isn’t that fucking hard, “holotori de macho” translates to male holotori

[Anonymous No.]

>>55600464
She's already rich, before joining idol. Her family is unironically loaded

[Anonymous No.]

>>55603577
Yeah but he didn't say JUST you faggot, he just said "I AM NOT A MEMBER OF HOLOTORI"

[Anonymous No.]

>>55603614
That what you get by being Royal

[Anonymous No.]

>>55603577
the translation is:
>I am not a member of holotori
>I'm a member of holotori (male)
if you're going to be a drama nigger be a better one

[Anonymous No.]

>>55603716
dude are you retarded? this is supreme cope, that is a figure of speech you dumb bastard, he explicitly said right after that "i am the first male holotori member"... it was literally the next sentence he said

[Anonymous No.]

>>55600062
She hates anything regarding sex talk or innuendos, it doesn't mean she's asexual. Also she loves holostars this has been known since debut day and her doing collabs with them shouldn't come as a surprise. She is too autistic to flirt or receive flirting in any way that matters, not like she has any unicorns to begin with but she's that type of girl

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>>55603850
nigga he said he was primero holotori macho, that means "first male holotori"... primero means first... do you think this retard is claiming to be in an entirely new group by himself because that would be really stupid

[Anonymous No.]

>>55602000
>Sinking branch
>Hard to get rid of
Still seething ain't you boy? Kek. Just the sheer mention of a male is enough to make you envious.

[Anonymous No.]

>>55600062
>everyone I don't like is a sex pest
Unifags are still trying this angle? Lmfao

[Anonymous No.]

>>55604032
it's really hard to take you guys seriously when the people who watch grown men pretending to be anime boys call us fags... that's be like if a black person unironically called me a nigger, it'd be pretty hard to take that seriously

[Anonymous No.]

How did this shitstain become the flagship of idol corp, wtf happened kek

[Anonymous No.]

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[Anonymous No.]

>>55604123
by abusing the youtube algorithm, that's literally it, her genmate was actually growing at the same rate but stopped doing shorts because she realized it would kill her channel in the long term

[Anonymous No.]

>>55601136
>Vesper mention
sisters so obsessed

[Anonymous No.]

>>55603958
>>55603850
>>55603716
>>55603577
>>55603379
>>55603299
it doesn't matter what he literally said or didn't say because he didn't even know what holotori really is. He just assumed it meant birds of holopro or whatever. Which he technically is. Nowadays he just uses the word birds to avoid misunderstandings.
Remember this idiot didn't watch vtubers, he doesn't know anything. He didn't know what tskr was, he didn't understand chat when they typed "humu humu".
He has the brain of a little kid, please understand. He is baby. And not even a smart baby.

[Anonymous No.]

>>55604304
And did a seething steam moaning about the type of viewers her shorts invited

[Anonymous No.]

>>55604121
>t. watches grown women pretending to be little girls
roru

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>>55604485
Her regulars are drooling retards so I cant see the difference

[Anonymous No.]

>>55604893
What about grown women who pretend to be grown women?

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>>55600062
I thought Idol was the no male collab company. What happened?

[Anonymous No.]

>>55604415
Well that sounds like an entirely new reason for me to dislike him so we are back to square one where i call him a pest and a leech

[Anonymous No.]

>>55603850
>I am not a member of holotori
>I'm a member of holotori men
He literally said the exact thing they wanted him to say and it wasn't good enough, he clarified he was not trying to join the girls group. poor kid

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>>55605362
Rin and juna are the only exceptions, the others have pretty explicitly said (or heavily implied) that they don’t want to do male collabs. I hate rin and juna for tanking the companies reputation and turning it into nijisanii 2.0 for so many people because the other 9 girls are perfectly fine and understand idol culture, hell roca literally brings up idol culture as a reason why she doesn’t want to do male collabs

[Anonymous No.]

>Hakka fans treated him like he's a retarded child that doesnt know anything
dunno which is worse

[Anonymous No.]

>>55600062
jezas

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>>55605636
Nigga the verb comes after the noun in spanish, it doesn’t translate to “i’m the first member of holotori men”, it translates to “i am the first male member of holotori”, when translated to english, the “macho” part (the verb) comes before the holotori part (noun), I.E he claimed to be the first male member of the existing group, he wasn’t claiming to be a member of a new group called “holotori (men)”…

[Anonymous No.]

>>55605947 (me)
Sorry my point is correct but i meant to say adjectives instead of verbs, for instance if you wanted to call someone a fast athlete, you wouldn’t say “rapido atleta” (which would directly translate to fast athlete), you’d say “ atleta rapido” which essentially translates to “the athlete who is fast”, so him saying he was “el primero holotori macho” does not translate to “i am the first holotori male” (which you guys are assuming is a different group i guess?), it means “i am the first holotori who is a male”

[Anonymous No.]

>>55600062
Wtf is that anon?

[Anonymous No.]

>>55600062
>>55605362
Rin and Juna are meant to contain the homobeggers and twitch trannys while the rest of Idol are for cunnychads and CGDCTchads. As long as these boundaries are kept then there's no issue.

[Anonymous No.]

>>55605666
let them collab who they want faggot. You don't control them lol, you don't see me spamming in their chats saying
>COLLAB PLS
>WHY WONT YOU COLLAB AIIIIIEEEE
jesus fuck get a grip bro...

[Anonymous No.]

>>55605947
I don't know what to tell you, that is literally what the joke is and why he laughed. I don't know why you're trying to shitfling "I'm not a member of holotori" as being the exact opposite of what he said, but he was very, very clearly saying he was not in their group, he was in his own. Stop trying to shitfling a retarded barely-3view, it's pathetic

[Anonymous No.]

>>55605798
I'm calling him a retarded grade schooler because I tried to watch him and could not. because he acted like a retarded grade schooler. The guy legit does not have fans.

[Anonymous No.]

>>55608702
A faggot(spic) and Rin "Asexual" Penrose

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>>55600062
Damn KFP special needs unit, really hate Hakka, the dude is ok and barely interact with holos, he interacted once with Kaela on her chat and she replied to him, and brown schizos lost their mind.

Then he responded to a fan about the holotori unit in spanish, saying that he was part of holotori MALE unit as a joke, and then he said "I'm the boss of the (male) unit"

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>>55603716
Chat said that he was the first ES (as in ESpañol) in Holotori, and he said that he wasn't not only the first Holotori (that's ES), but also the first male Holotori.

[Anonymous No.]

>>55608883
because you do not understand spanish grammar, that is not what he said, when directly translated it can be misinterpreted as that, but if you actually speak the language, then you'd know he isn't claiming to be apart of a seperate group, what he said translates to "i am the first male member of holotori", even the way he said it was super smug, which implies he absolutely knew what he was talking about. quit coping dude

[Anonymous No.]

>>55609217
>trying to spin and weave words to fit his narrative

[Anonymous No.]

>>55609324
nigga do your fucking spanish reps, if you do not understand what he actually said then leave this fucking thread, anyone who speaks spanish can tell you this is exactly what he said

[Anonymous No.]

>>55609154
>he interacted once with Kaela on her chat and she replied to him
Thanks for reminding me that this favela monkey actually called Kaela a penguin multiple times until she kicked him out of her chat. Nice faggot you have there, sister.

[Anonymous No.]

>>55609307
>which implies he absolutely knew what he was talking about
if you haven't watched him at all you got no right to say that shit lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>55609409
he said it yes, but he didn't really mean it did he? see? that's called common sense, one that you lack.

[Anonymous No.]

>>55609430
watch the fucking clip dude, A. if you actually understood spanish then you would know i'm correct, but B. he is very clearly acting all smug in that clip, he also once referred to himself as "the rooster in the hen house" which is just about as explicit as you can get, if it's a male only group... why is he in the hen house? he didn't say he was a rooster in the rooster house so what gives?

[Anonymous No.]

>>55609418
>Thanks for reminding me that this favela monkey actually called Kaela a penguin multiple times until she kicked him out of her chat.

Damn, nice head canon, he joke with her on chat, got banned as a joke for a second by a mod, and then kaela unbanned him, he sticked around a while commenting about the stream and that was it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>55609597
>he also once referred to himself as "the rooster in the hen house"
proof or kys, you've been lying this whole thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>55609507
yes he did mean it, he started laughing all smugly after, and he has called himself "the rooster in the hen house" before (in spanish)... he 100 percent knew what he was saying, which is made more obvious by him going to kaela's stream soon after and bragging about them both being birds

[Anonymous No.]

>>55600062
all I see is two males

[Anonymous No.]

>>55609659
what tf have I been lying about? i have been explaining spanish grammar to you... what part of that is a lie?

[Anonymous No.]

>>55609597
when was the last time he mentioned he was part of holotori after that clip? I've never seen him mention it once after it which means it was never meant to be fucking real. You've outed yourself as a clipwatcher and accused him of being a member of holotori when in fact he isn't? Your brain is so fixated on that fucking thing when it was meant to be a joke. Your like one of those twitter troons who make a big issue out of literally anything.

[Anonymous No.]

>>55600062
I only see 2 males.

[Anonymous No.]

>>55605636
Holotori is female only it isn't that hard to understand. Holotori men doesn't exist and never will

[Anonymous No.]

>>55609742
you're projecting so hard over a guy you barely know and you already see him negatively. Jesus dude...
>which is made more obvious by him going to kaela's stream soon after and bragging about them both being birds
>bragging
ok, now you're definitely projecting

[Anonymous No.]

>>55609828
>spanish grammar without context
ftfy

[Anonymous No.]

>>55609968
he went out of his way to tardwrangle his chat that called him part of the girl's group, he did the correct thing

[Anonymous No.]

>>55609828
>no proof for the incredibly inflammatory claim
Ah! kys you dramanigger

[Anonymous No.]

>>55609418
Retard EOP, here is the context.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hc937WfcWIc

>>55609597
Lmao, another retarded EOP, what he said was "Onions el papallote de los pollitos", which loosely translate into "I'm the boss" in a context of a joke and talking about a MALE holotori unit

[Anonymous No.]

>>55609835
>you've outed yourself as a clipwatcher
that would imply i watch his clips at all, i don't watch any homos, clips or streams. i have the clip saved of him saying it because i think he's a fucking leech but that's it. But i also speak spanish and fully understand what he said, there isn't much way to misinterpret without calling him a dipshit who doesn't understand the culture... but if that's the case then i'd hate him for that too so what are we accomplishing here? i'm gonna hate him whether he meant it or not so why continue this?
>>55609980
I think you guys are just coping, even holostars fans on the fucking subreddit won't shut the hell up about hakka being in holotori because they remember him saying it as well. you're only trying to revise what he said now because we're hating on him for it... but he did totally say it and he absolutely meant it at the time

[Anonymous No.]

>>55610410
>He said it
>actually he didn't say it, he hinted it
>actually he didn't hint it, it was ambiguous weird grammar
>actually reddit said it
insufferable, shut the fuck up

[Anonymous No.]

>>55610299
pollitos only refers to female chickens dude... so your claim doesn't really add up
>>55610258
i didn't need to find it, this dude >>55610299
found it for me

[Anonymous No.]

>sex pest who tried to fuck kiara
I don't remember this ever happening.

[Anonymous No.]

>>55610526
the first part I absolutely said but those last three lines were only said by you faggots. He did explicitly say it (not just hinted at it), his grammar was not weird, you guys are just stupid for misunderstanding it, and reddit said it *because he already said it before

[Anonymous No.]

>>55600845
qrd?

[Anonymous No.]

>>55600464
You didn’t even watch her

[Anonymous No.]

>>55610526
>>55610696 (me)
where did you even come up with this cope, i never said anything close to those last three points, all i said was that he explicitly said it, and then i explained the grammar for you guys (not because his grammar was ambiguous, it was crystal clear, but because you guys are dipshits didn't understand it)

[Anonymous No.]

>>55610184
smart thing would have been to just ignore it or just say he explicitly wasn't a member of Holotori. He chose the worst option that has led to his fans/falseflaggers begging for him to be in Holotori constantly.

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>>55610553
Pollitos mean baby chickens of any gender on spanish, stop lying retarded EOP.

You didn't even watch the clip retard, it was when he visited Kaela stream not when he talked in spanish about the holotori unit.

Pinches gringos inventando cada mamada, ni que fuera culpa de holostars que sus oshis los odien.


>>55610595
The dude is a KFP retard, that threadwatch every stream

[Anonymous No.]

>>55610893
you're being cornered but you're still doubling down. So what if he said it? He didn't fucking mean it idiot. You're so thick headed no wonder you lack not only common sense but a fucking brain.

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>>55611005
ahh so he was talking to kaela about the male holotori unit... wait... actually that doesn't make any sense either, why tf would he be talking to a female holotori member (as far as he knew) about his male only group that only includes himself? that's retarded

[Anonymous No.]

>>55610410
>I think you guys are just coping
why cope when it's the truth and you're just performing a wide array of mental gymnastics to gaslight me into thinking you're correct?
>even holostars fans on the fucking subreddit won't shut the hell up about hakka being in holotori because they remember him saying it as well.
i don't go to reddit so idk what's happening there therefore making your statement invalid.
>you're only trying to revise what he said now because we're hating on him for it.
bruh who is "we"? Clearly you're the only one making an issue out of it. Revise? What is this bullshit?

[Anonymous No.]

>>55611343
how am i cornered when I literally did not say half of the shit you just said i did? Even if he did not mean it... that just means that he knows nothing about hololive which still makes him a leech and a pest in my book, so at this point it's just semantics, he fucked up either way and i'm gonna give him shit for it regardless so who cares if he meant it or not when the end result is exactly the same (that result being that hakka is a leech and a pest)

[Anonymous No.]

>>55611555
what mental gymnastics? i am directly quoting him, you retards are the ones doing mental gymnastics to try and prove that he didn't mean what he said

[Anonymous No.]

>>55603850
you retards are so ignorant
"i'm not the first member of holotori, i'm the first male holotori"

[Anonymous No.]

>>55611560
>that just means that he knows nothing about hololive
why should he? he's holostars kek, you can call him a leech but he's not a pest. At the end of the day you're just some petty dude who hasn't moved on from this little jab on you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>55611750
that part makes him a leech, this part makes him a pest

[Anonymous No.]

>>55611680
bruh i watch hakka. Yeah im brave enough to admit it big whoop. even i know when he's joking. It's not mental gymnastics, it's the fact that you can't accept the truth that you make it sound like im doing mental gymnastics

[Anonymous No.]

>>55611886
nothing about this screams "SEX PEST SEX PEST", if he's a leech then he's a leech. You still lack of evidence of him being a sex pest
this was from months ago as well

[Anonymous No.]

>>55602062
>he has publicly said how it would be cool if he could collab with the holoEN girls.
thats not begging. retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>55611886
what am i looking at here? it's just him being a leech as usual?

[Anonymous No.]

>>55611408
Watch the fucking clip retard, I'm telling you for a second time, he never said anything about holotori, he joke about Kaela about her being a penguin and that he is a bird too, that's it.

Fucking EOPs are truly retarded, they never develop some areas on their brain.

[Anonymous No.]

>>55612257
if they're like this idiot >>55611560 then im dying to know what sort of education system they have

[Anonymous No.]

>>55612041
i didn't say sex pest, i just said pest

[Anonymous No.]

>>55611937
>it's not mental gymnastics, i just need to make assumptions to prove my point
isn't that what mental gymnastics is? I am just directly quoting him, there is no mental gymnastics needed

[Anonymous No.]

>>55611682
>i'm not the first member of holotori,
can't tell if you're dumb or a liar, but he didn't say that

[Anonymous No.]

>>55612583
>>55611560
>interact once with kaela on stream
HE IS A SEXPEST LEECH
>respond to some fan about the holotori unit, once
HE IS A LEECH A SEXPEST

You mom needed semen on her pussy to create you, I think that by you logic she is a whore that always have semen on her pussy, retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>55612215
it's him pestering kaela, the one girl in holoID who does not do homocollabs

[Anonymous No.]

>>55612771
cry about it more faggot, unicorns have won and tempus has been BTFO

[Anonymous No.]

>>55612792
>>55612898
jeezas, you guys are unironically retarded

[Anonymous No.]

>>55612792
is it really pestering if he's just complimenting her? this sounds more like him being a leech to get those updoots.

[Anonymous No.]

>>55612212
it's pretty fucking close, it's certainly inviting his fans to start homobegging on his behalf

[Anonymous No.]

>>55611343
>he didn't say it
>but if he did, it was mistranslated
>but if it wasn't, it was misinterpreted
>but if it wasn't, he didn't mean it, you're just dumb
i've never seen goalposts move so much

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>>55612898
>unicorns have won
at the cost of your mentality, i'd say you did win.

[Anonymous No.]

>>55613024
do you know what the word pestering means? he is objectively pestering her, she doesn't talk to holostars and therefore probably doesn't want one in her chat. she responded to him because she's a nice person but that doesn't mean he wasn't pestering her

[Anonymous No.]

>>55609154
The fact you have this image saved means you're a nijinigger holo x holo instigating sister. Cut for hex and bleed out, thx

[Anonymous No.]

>>55613116
i'd say we won too, thanks bro, glad we are finally on the same page

[Anonymous No.]

>>55613098
Your friend is getting cornered, did he come get you for support? That's nice

[Anonymous No.]

>>55613152
>she doesn't talk to holostars and therefore probably doesn't want one in her chat
so.. uh.. do you know about magni and vesper's present to her birthday a year ago? no? figures..

[Anonymous No.]

>>55612792
>one girl in holoID who does not do homocollabs
obviously, but she's pretty welcoming to whoever enters in chat. Especially if there are homos. Can you stop projecting now? Thank you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>55613294
are you 12? you need to be above 18 to post here

[Anonymous No.]

>>55613497
i could say the same to you friend.

[Anonymous No.]

>>55613152
Is there a point to being offended on her behalf?

[Anonymous No.]

>>55612898
does tempus really care what you guys do? or is this some imaginary victory you thought of? hell even i don't do this kind of thing, seems pretty childish to me

[Anonymous No.]

have you guys ever considered making it less obvious when you literally the only things you know about a chuuba come from random schizo bullshit spewed on /vt/

[Anonymous No.]

>>55609147
british colonising latinamerican lands

[Anonymous No.]

>>55612678
>i am directly quoting him therefore i am also assuming that what he says is bad for me
it's not, but hey if you really think that. i guess you're doing the same thing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>55600062
>Idol
>isn't an idol
wow

[Anonymous No.]

>>55613830
this thread has a bunch of retards throwing shit thinking they know the other, just another regular day in /vt/

[Anonymous No.]

>>55613586
>constantly move goalposts
>say retarded elementary schooler level shit as a rebuttal
>"no u"
downies or underage?

[Anonymous No.]

>>55613956
neither, but seeing as how you have no retort to my previous statement and think it's a goalpost then i accept your concession. Good talk friend.

[Anonymous No.]

>>55613044
>it's pretty fucking close
close but still not begging, retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>55613956
got btfo'd now you resort to this kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>55614033
this is so retarded i'm still trying to process it
what previous statement did i not retort to? you are the one who didn't retort to my goalpost post in the first place and deflected by calling me his friend. and you unironically meant that? as an actual point? are you actually retarded? do you think everyone who disagrees with you are in on it together to bring you down? you are a literal child, get off this site
>think it's a goalpost
so you going from "he never said this" to "he just didn't mean it like that" isn't moving goalposts? you're either retarded or a child, no other explanation
>>55614226
>not a new ip
samefagging, wow what a shock

[Anonymous No.]

>>55601819
I had a classmate like this in college and he was cheating on his girlfriend with like 3 other chicks kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>55600062
She's got almost 600k subs and I've never heard of her. Literally who?

[Anonymous No.]

>>55600062
>Anything I don't like is a sex pest
How's the ban by the way? Ever had any progress on that appeal for the Prince?

[Anonymous No.]

>>55600062
just jack off to lewd art of her and imagine her crying about it its hot

[Anonymous No.]

>>55614905
It was from when the shorts meta was still viable because youtube were desperate to make it a thing, so they let the algorithm run loose. She, Punkalopi and Filian are all shorts babies. At the end only Filian prevailed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>55614729
>what previous statement did i not retort to?
this one >>55611343 you think it's a goalpost but it really isn't, the previous person (assuming is not you) kept doing it and i've been proving him wrong post after post.
>you are a literal child, get off this site
then you resort to this because you got nothing left.
>so you going from "he never said this" to "he just didn't mean it like that"
when did i say "he never said this"? he did say it, but he didn't mean it. I'm starting to think you didn't read the whole convo and just went to the end of this thread. If you're covering for him that's commendable effort.

[Anonymous No.]

>>55611682
either learn spanish or stfu

[Anonymous No.]

>>55608987
I'm a fan of him

[Anonymous No.]

>>55600062
stop using nerissa on your tempus hate faggotry. she was a tempus sister.