/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

More than a week has passed, what is your expectation for Advent in the long term?

Will they know how to maintain themselves over time or will they soon become irrelevant?

[Anonymous No.]

>>55596174

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>>55596174
Hololive, so they can't fail. That being said:
FUWAMOCO will have a Kobo-tier incline and very loyal fans.
Nerissa is gonna be the Kiara/Bae of her gen: loved /here/ but this time actually popular.
Bijou will maybe lose some traction in the long run, but never her spirit. I imagine she will collab with IDs a lot.
Shiori is the next Kronii/Ame

[Anonymous No.]

>>55596385
Based

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>>55596174
>Will they know how to maintain themselves over time or will they soon become irrelevant?
Shiori is giving extra attention to paypigs. She's kronii 2.0. I expect her to cause another meltdown once the inevitable happens.

[Anonymous No.]

now that they are here the other holos are forced to stream again and get back on track after being lazy whores
Advent is going to be fine I think

I have faith in Bijou because she's going to stream a lot
the Dogs too, they're hard workers too they're going to have the biggest numbers for sure

I have no idea what's going to happen with Rissa and Shiori, I think both will have a super parasocial fanbase with tons of goslings but they're probably going to be slightly above Kiara, Bae, Mori... but it's too early to tell

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>>55596174
I think they're great, all of them. I've caught at least one or two of all of their streams and they're all really strong. If they can keep the consistency up and find ways to keep collabs fresh then they're golden.

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>>55596174
The difference is that EN3 are better streamers than EN2, more quality, and the assumption should be that it can help numbers, but the point is really just that people like them more, regardless.

[Anonymous No.]

>>55598819
yeap, of course, they are not going to have the impact Myth had because vtubing is kinda dying in the western world (maybe not completely dying but we plateaued), but It'll probably surpass Council at some point

[Anonymous No.]

I'm expecting graduations. More than before in EN.

[Anonymous No.]

>>55596174
Decline is sure

[Anonymous No.]

>>55599248

but enough about ninji

[Anonymous No.]

>>55597317
Ah yes, wonderful argument sir. May I offer a counterpoint?
MENHERA GOTH SEX

[Anonymous No.]

>>55596174
who? don't care. hololive feel off years ago when talentless femoids got in.

[Anonymous No.]

>>55596174
really depends on themselves in the end, but here's my 2 cents:
>fuwamoco
the most stable of them all. will be coddled by jp, both by senpais and fanbase. they're safe in the long run
>bijou
she'd be like luna, not the biggest talent but will 100% have a dedicated fanbase that swear by her. plus she seems to enjoy being a holo, so she's safe too
>shiori
she's kind of a wildcard right now. she will thrive as long as she doesn't go full menhera or backstab her fans, but probably won't blew up unless she got a viral moment
>nerissa
still too early to tell because she's got a long way as a streamer, but her fate definitely depends on how she handles her roommate. cover is going to set her up as another en musical holo like mori, if she held a professional attitude as a holo while consistently outputting quality music and did her live reps, she could be the en equivalent of suisei (yes you heard that right). hopefully she's wise enough to know that holo fame is a different kind of beast, but at least she actually likes hololive so i'll give her that for now

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>>55596174
>shiori
ESL dumbfuck homolover, will be irrelevant
>bijou
cunny
>nerissa
kronii killer
>fuwamoco
saviors of EN

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>>55596174
Shiori: will destroy herself in some spectacular way
Bijou: will be fine
Nerissa: will be fine
Fuwamoco: will continue to dominate and save Holo EN

The overall future for Advent is bright.

[Anonymous No.]

Will all be in the upper echleon of EN vtubers long term. It's not as high as jp and there's no real competition.

[Anonymous No.]

>>55596174
>I just hope they're all getting enough healthy rest.
Seriously though, I love the dogs and don't want them to burn out from the emotional labor of being perfect everyday. I love Stone Luna as well and I think her audience will grow due to the longer streams. Shiori and Rissa don't really make content for me, but that doesn't mean there isn't large audience for it.

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>>55604227
Is she really an ESL?

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>>55596174
>nerissa
less normie, more confortable, becomes THE music holo of EN, irys sad
>bijou
becomes the new gura after gura disappears again
>fuwamoco
drops the fake voice, keep high growth, but her content turns more similar to kiara's
>shiori
i have no expectations, she will never call me a fucker again, why even live anymore?

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>>55596174
I mean nobody in HoloEN is irrelevant so I doubt they’re gonna end up irrelevant unless they really fuck up. I’d probably expect a decline in viewership until they plateau around high 4view low 5view tier, so pretty respectable overall.

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>>55596174
>Shiori
Keeps talking about nonsense, good as background noise but not my thing otherwise. Will probably get funny moments out of other chuubas in collabs.
>Bijou
By far the biggest gamer out of them all, and does entertaining streams too.
>Rissa
One of if not the best singer in HoloEN, judging by the scuffed relay karaoke also has good taste in weeb music. Enough to make her my oshi. Gaming streams have been fun to so far.
>FWMC
Really not keen on watching the Dora the explorer content live, but the clips with "un un"s and perfect sync are cute. As long as they keep the facade people will keep calling them the saviours of EN and spamming bau bau everywhere. Their singing is great too.

Overall, good variety. Bijou and Rissa for games, Rissa and the dogs for music, Shiorin as a wildcard.

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>>55607990
she's pretending she is not ESL because she doesn't want to admit she's a flip. most likely she's native bilingual but she pronounces "through" as "frew" consistently and has a few other tells

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>>55596174
Shiorin
>the new queen of EN if she doesn't yab
Rissa
>better Kiara if she puts some effort
Fuwamoco
>will surpass Gura
Bijou
>will get more subs than council
EN Gen 4 will be the death of Myth and Council

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>>55596174
>shiori
In the short run she is going to keep up her "weird" streams and content, but in the long run she will fall back more and more into games.
>bijou
She is going to be a bit of a slow burn, but her audience is going to be very attached to her
>nerissa
I am not sure what she is going to be in the future, maybe ASMR, maybe more music related stuff or more games.
>fuwawa and mococo
If they keep doing what they are doing, they are going to have a big fan base from EN fans and JP fans.
I can only wish them the best to all of them.

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>>55596174

>FuwaMoco
Great energy, they're having a blast streaming and it really shows. Even though I didn't think I'd like this content it's adorable seeing the sibling relationship and when they calm down slightly they are very enjoyable.

>Bijou
Real gamer energy, but really sweet and positive too. I love the longer stream content. It's hard not to like her.

>Nerissa
Sexy AF yabai nee-san energy, good singer potential - but definitely much more western feel then Bijou or FuwaMoco

>Shiori
The most wild-card and awkward, maybe she will find her footing. Feels like she's trying to be Mumei 2.0 - I think she only works if youre heavy into the crazy GFE.

I'm just happy to see HoloEN streams who actually are having fun streaming and make entertaining content. Honestly, that's all I wanted.

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>>55596174
>Shiori
Easily sleeper hit, tons of gachikois in the EN space but a bit too weird for JP fans atm
>Bijou
Fast and quick, if she can do long streams she can capture both zoomer and boomers
>Nerissa
Not enough data, but the most straight forward vtuber yet, loves what she's doing and has a good singing voice and knows her goal
>FuwaMoco
Insane duo strength, lack of good games inhibiting growth but already captured both JP and EN fans.

[Anonymous No.]

>>55609420
DESU Some of Council really didn't feel like they enjoyed streaming all that much.

Sana had a quirky personality but the roughest tenure as a streamer. I think her voice didn't help as it was hard for many to understand.

Bae and Fauna took awhile to find their footing. Felt like they leached off of their Senpais too much.

Mumei great at the start but fizzled out quickly

Kronii NEVER felt like she ever had fun streaming or enjoyed being in the spotlight.

As for Myth... Calli and Gura extreme burnout and got lazy. Ina especially got lackluster. Ame was dodgy and Kiara is the only one who consistently put in effort but her constant complaining didn't help.

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>>55599064
Anon, Myth had ZERO competition, a factor that is no longer understood today. Each time more streamers are added, they have to fight harder for their position. It’s not that people are leaving so much as it’s becoming overcrowded

[Anonymous No.]

>>55598819
I just want more because before EN3 there we literally only 10 people in the fucking pool.

Omega fucking gayshit lord trying to push Hololive + Holostars killed EN's growth.

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>>55609209
>>55610192
>>55610301
I was going to type out my own thoughts, but it would basically come out like these.

[Anonymous No.]

with Advent you're seeing the beginning of the new era of EN vtubing and the official end of the COCO/MYTH/2020 era. It's that big of a paradigm shift, expect to see a crazy year full of never before imagined surprises.

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>>55596174
>Shiori
the edgyness she brings to her streams and collabs puts her up there. maybe she'll be top 5 HoloEN. seems most likely to have a yab/menhera arc tho.
>Fuwamoco
possibly HoloEN's flagship in CCV (post-pandemic, I don't think Gura is beatable). The mix of wholesome retardation and Fuwawa's bouncy tits is a fresh take for HoloEN.
>Nerissa
i like her, but i don't think singer is enough of a gimmick for her to go beyond 'solid parasocial fanbase'. her gaming skills are solidly above average, which more dull than being trash or Botan good.
>Bijou
she might be the Fauna of her generation. not a lot of immediate appeal, but her stream banter is really good. steady growth.

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>Shiori
Honestly not sure, she seem to pay attention to her fans attentively, will probably have a tight community like KFP
>Bijou
Actual gamer that EN needed for a long time
>Rissa
Puts out great songs and covers but will inevitably pull a woman moment in the future
>Fuwamoco
Very committed in their craft and will continue baubauing forever