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>> No.55583335
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*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://www.hololive-songs.com/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber
>https://www.nijiuta.com/

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>> No.55583376

So when will Gura stop streaming again? We all know this is not sustainable for her

>> No.55583379
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Off collab doko?

>> No.55583399

>>55583099
I'm just honestly more surprised that this whole tournament even includes EN, apart from Fauna absolutely nobody else has shown any interest in this sort of game, hell most of them seems to just realize that it's not ordinary pokemon

>> No.55583405

Anyone got a brief synopsis on the Selen thing

>> No.55583406

>>55583233
>>55583079
>>55582566
>>55582081
So Idol is just Kemomimi Refle but EN?

>> No.55583410

>>55583099
they need to find Fauna some Dota2 partners. I want that 5-man despair stack

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>> No.55583438

thread died so
>>55577129
>>55581889
see >>55578547 (Cross-thread)
> there is something kind of conflicting about this whole care about the livers not the company thing people regurgitate when you actually think about it
> most people who watch nijien dont watch selen or any other specific individual, so why should they be mad?
> your only link to selen if you dont watch her is the company...
> if you stick to this philosophy of caring only about livers and don't watch her it shouldn't really bother you what happens to her because that would be something a fan of the company would care about not a fan of the individual members

Their fanbase has completely become /NijiJP/ tier, absolutely separate from each other and wanting nothing to do with other people no matter if they're in the same branch or not.
The "family" ideal that Elira desperately wanted to cultivate in NijiEN is fucking dead.
No matter how much they collab with each other, or how much they either show or hide their supposed "friendship" on stream or off stream, the Niji fanbase will never EVER like another liver just because their oshi is friendly with them.

This is the type of mentality that causes JP nijifans to start harassment campaigns - when their oshi starts collabing too much with someone they don't like.
NijiEN fanbase is finally getting close to the level of toxicity as that of the NijiJP fanbase, although it's still far from actionable yet.
The next graduation will be fun to watch.

>> No.55583437

>>55583399
What surprise me more is that JP is actually not shit. More than half of that team never play MOBA before yet it took 2 streams for them to start working together as a team

>> No.55583445

>>55583376
She'll fuck off again when Advent numbers settled and aren't a threat to her anymore. She did the same to Council.

>> No.55583448

>>55583376
Anon she gonna stream Friday and Saturday (Zeta Channel) for the MC tournament. I want her to play Baldruc Gate 3 and see the Bear

>> No.55583451

>>55583233
Basically the pretending to suck/lick on a lollipop shit

>> No.55583455

>>55583282
>>55583438
I actually wonder why all nijisanji fanbases end up with the exact same dynamic. It's happened to the JP, EN, and CN fanbases now so it's too frequent to say it's a coincidence, doubly so since the EN fanbase used to be comprised primarily of ex holofags who only know about nijisanji academically and can't possibly inherit their behaviours from them

>> No.55583470

>>55583250
>he fell for AChan feminine guile HAHA!
I don’t blame you, she’s really cute!

>> No.55583477
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>> No.55583480

>>55583376
Once Advent becomes 4views.

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The winning team!

>> No.55583489

>>55583079
Her? the tako girl?

>> No.55583498

>>55583399
Look, it’s a company event so of course they HAVE to get EN in, otherwise it would look preferential, Cover don’t want that

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Chu~

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>> No.55583552

>>55583451
Even Luna and Choco does that, though?

>> No.55583550
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>>55583485
>bijou

>> No.55583562

>>55583485
Why is the rock there though?

>> No.55583567

>>55583498
yeah, you can look at Nijisanji over the aisle to see what happens when the company does openly demonstrate preferential treatment

>> No.55583570

>>55583455
I'd say its because the branches aren't as unified as Holo are

>> No.55583590

>>55583485
why are nijiniggers like this?

>> No.55583594

>>55583550
>400kg
>140cm
Imagine the pressure on your dick.

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all signs point to her graduating

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* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *

>91,382: Noel (Hololive)
>83,166: Aqua (Hololive)
>80,750: Maimoto (Nijisanji)
>47,839: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>42,596: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>34,440: Pekora (Hololive)
>33,945: Towa (Hololive)
>28,965: Yuika (Nijisanji)
>22,377: Fubuki (Hololive)
>20,946: Chiroru (Indie)
>20,176: Gura (Hololive)
>18,673: Shiori (Hololive)
>16,814: Subaru (Hololive)
>15,857: Fuwamoco (Hololive)
>15,641: Aki (Hololive)
>15,493: Suisei (Hololive)
>14,105: Koyori (Hololive)
>14,025: Koyori (Hololive)
>13,599: Patra (Indie)
>12,888: Mumei (Hololive)
>12,767: Bijou (Hololive)
>12,195: Koyori (Hololive)
>11,848: GatchmanV (Indie)
>10,744: Salome (Nijisanji)
>10,309: Lize (Nijisanji)
>10,000: Ponpoko (Indie)

>> No.55583617

>>55583570
but that doesn't make sense, it makes sense why that behaviour developed in Nijisanji jp, but not in EN because there's no direct link to jump over

>> No.55583620

>>55583550
>>55583562
Fuck you novelfags, this is why no fanbase likes you.

>> No.55583622

>>55583438
>>55583455
> I actually wonder why all nijisanji fanbases end up with the exact same dynamic
That’s what happens with the company debuts 20 talents in six months, rank their performance by subs and reward (or demote) them on that basis with the top ones getting nendos, extra outfits and expedited merch and the rest getting crumbs.
The fanbase will obviously not be “one for all”

>> No.55583624

>>55583609
literally who

>> No.55583643

>>55583451
Bah, boring. That's nothing.

>> No.55583660

>>55583590
>3/5 do your reps

>> No.55583664

>>55583399
There's no reason not to include EN, this isn't professional Esports. Besides, you always need one designated jobber team.

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>> No.55583675

>>55583485
>Bijou
Mori groupie so nah
>but it was just a raid
Im already seeing her interact with ollie alot too so im selling already

>> No.55583678

>>55583485
>>55583620
you know it's funny we are just discussing why nijiniggers don't blend in well when they shitpost in /#/ and you guys go right ahead and provide an object lesson

>> No.55583687

>>55583498
>otherwise it would look preferential
Instead it just looks like a struggle session with a designated loser

>> No.55583697

>>55583312
tama-nee...

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>>55583616
>AUGUST 2023 GOLDS
1) Miko (Hololive) - 148,555 - Anniversary 3D Live
2) Fuwa (Nijisanji) - 53,484 - Radio Program
3) Yashiro (Nijisanji) - 57,320 - Koshien Practice
4) Ibrahim (Nijisanji) - 51,111 - Koshien Practice
5) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 81,637 - Nijifes Announcement
6) Pekora (Hololive) - 104,044 - Mario Party (w/ Marine, Kanata, Koyori)
7) Flare (Hololive) - 55,591 - Anniversary Totsumachi
8) Noel (Hololive) - 91,382 - Anniversary 3D Live

>PER COMPANY
4x: Hololive, Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
1x: Flare, Fuwa, Ibrahim, Miko, Noel, Nijisanji, Pekora, Yashiro

>2023 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
153x: Hololive
51x: Nijisanji
7x: Indie
5x: VSPO
4x: Neo Porte

>PER STREAMER
52x: Pekora
20x: Miko
16x: Marine
8x: Subaru
7x: Toya
6x: Kuzuha
5x: Suisei, Yashiro
4x: Aqua, Hal, Hololive, Nijisanji, Shiina, Towa
3x: Chiroru, Fuwa, Iroha, Leos, Mio, Okayu, Koyori
2x: Aki, Flare, Fubuki, Hinano, Ibrahim, Korone, Lamy, Lui, Nerumero, Salome, Watame
1x: Air, Ayame, Beni, Chloe, Choco, Fuwamoco, Gaku, Gura, Gundou, Hibari, Himawari, Ina, Kaede, Kanata, Kanato, Kiara, Laplus, Lize, Maimoto, Mel, Mito, Mori, Noel, Nose, Nozomi, Nui, Polka, Ponto, Qpi, Roco, Ryushen, Shion, Tsukasa, Ui

>> No.55583701

I love Gura, Mumei and Fauna.

>> No.55583702

>>55583455
Women.
This is what having a higher % of mentally ill fujo/yume types tends to do.

>> No.55583719

>>55583687
ogey zhang

>> No.55583726

>>55583660
go to sleep kikek

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>>55583620
I literally did nothing.

>> No.55583732

>>55583687
Yes but they included EN!!! Can’t say EN get shafted this time

>> No.55583738

>>55583376
If they have to go to Japan again for whatever reason. Didn't she say something about a 3D live? Or maybe holiday season.
It's early to tell tb h. She's super motivated rn and haven't even interacted with advent on stream.

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>> No.55583749

>>55583609
PLEASE EN4 WITH NINA, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!!!!!!!! They deserve better.............

>> No.55583766

>>55583664
With a Cover produced and financed song as the prize, it would be awkward not to include any team

>> No.55583770

>https://twitter.com/rintubein/status/1688782797840781312
>FWMC being cute
Can someone do a webm+catbox audio. I don't know how to split a/v, encode and all that stuff

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>>55583620
???

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What's today's numbers?

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>> No.55583788

>>55583726
>3/5 whose kikek?

>> No.55583790

Either NijiEN is going to get ID/KR'd or Anykara just really hopes people hate them and decide to do some stupid fucking shit to piss people off. Because I don't get banning Selen from arranging tournaments. There's literally no point in this shit.

>> No.55583809

>>55583719
Oh right that is also a commie thing

>> No.55583815

>>55583660
why are kikeks like this

>> No.55583816

>>55583620
we LOVE Ms Shiori Novella here now retard. Get on with the times!

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>> No.55583874

>>55583282
UNIRONICALLY GRIM

>> No.55583876

>>55583766
The prizes just makes it worse honestly

>> No.55583879

>>55583376
When she goes to japan, has an overload of work or has health issues. Same as last time, the answer to this question never changes

>> No.55583880

>>55583438
>No matter how much they collab with each other, or how much they either show or hide their supposed "friendship" on stream or off stream, the Niji fanbase will never EVER like another liver just because their oshi is friendly with them.
>This is the type of mentality that causes JP nijifans to start harassment campaigns - when their oshi starts collabing too much with someone they don't like.
Why are we pretending this is only unique to Niji? You just described the HoloEN fanbase. Look at all the abuse Mori gets from EN fans here despite all the girls loving her. Plenty of other obvious examples you can find by just going to any of the Holo splits. It's even more obvious in Advent splits.

>> No.55583881

>>55583809
It's pretty much entirely a chinese thing, I've literally never seen that term being used outside of a context relating it to communist china.

>> No.55583892

Man,this is actually pretty good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJri9Mcs2HY

>> No.55583897

>>55583675
So 2/5? Getting grim..
>>55583678
Good guess but as usual, something is lacking up there.

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>> No.55583913

>>55583617
EN fanbase was seeded by Holo antis and then got infested with Chinese fujos. They never had a chance.

>> No.55583937
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*FINAL EN TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN*

>8/8 DAILY TALLY
20,176: Gura (Hololive)
18,645: Shiori (Hololive)
15,857: FuwaMoco (Hololive)
12,841: Mumei (Hololive)
12,767: Bijou (Hololive)
8,440: Kiara (Hololive)
7,736: Mysta (Nijisanji)
6,138: IRyS (Hololive)
5,024: Vox (Nijisanji)


>EN GOLDS FOR AUGUST 2023
1) Bijou (Hololive) - 26,316 - American Truck Simulator
2) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 28,132 - FuwaMoco Morning
3) Shiori (Hololive) - 24,103 - Advent Pajama Party
4) Shiori (Hololive) - 31,094 - Unarchived Karaoke
5) Mumei (Hololive) - 36,054 - Birthday Stream
6) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 33,109 - Karaoke Stream
7) Nerissa (Hololive) - 26,823 - Monetization Karaoke
8) Gura (Hololive) - 20,176 - Night Security

>PER COMPANY
8x: Hololive

>PER STREAMER
2x: FuwaMoco, Shiori
1x: Bijou, Gura, Mumei, Nerissa

>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
20p: Shiori
19p: FuwaMoco
12p: Bijou
6p: Gura, Nerissa
5p: Mumei
3p: Luca
1p: Mori

>> No.55583952

>>55583312
>people remember ToHeart 2 exists

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>>55583897
why are kikeks like this?

>> No.55583968

>>55583749
Fuck off. They don't deserve Hololive.

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>> No.55583981

>>55583781
18k Bijou x Fuwamoco
14k Gura
16k Fuwamoco
15k Nerissa x Shiori
8k Irys x Fauna

>> No.55583984

>>55583376
Are you the same retard that claimed Cover was losing money due to them selling out concert tickets?

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>>55583701
Based and same.

>> No.55584009

>>55583881
Yeah, i was mainly just thinking about the public humiliation part of it, because i'm sure that no one expects EN to even come second place

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>>55583937
>2023 EN GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
161x: Hololive
55x: Nijisanji
3x: Holostars
1x: Idol

>PER STREAMER
21x: Fauna
20x: Mori
19x: Gura
17x: Mumei
16x: IRyS
13x: Baelz, Ina, Kronii
10x: Amelia
9x: Kiara, Mysta, Vox
4x: Pomu, Selen, Shu
3x: FuwaMoco, Nina, Ren
2x: Alban, Bijou, Finana, Hololive English, Ike, Luca, Shiori, Yu
1x: Enna, Elira, Flayon, Fulgur, Luxiem, Millie, Nerissa, Petra, Regis, Roca, Rosemi, Sonny, Vesper, Vezalius

>2023 POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
211p: Fauna
161p: Ina
155p: Mori
143p: IRyS
138p: Mumei
121p: Baelz
101p: Kronii
97p: Gura
85p: Kiara
83p: Amelia
77p> Mysta
74p: Vox
64p: Luca
37p: Shu
31p: Selen
25p: Pomu
24p: FuwaMoco, Nina, Shiori
19p: Ike
17p: Bijou
16p: Ren
15p: Enna, Fulgur
14p: Sonny, Uki
13p: Finana, Millie
11p: Axel
10p: Alban, Elira, Hololive English, Yu
9p: Nerissa, Vesper
7p: Regis
6p: Rosemi, Vezalius
5p: Flayon, Luxiem, Petra, Roca
4p: Magni, Vantacrow
3p: Bettel, Hakka, Kotoka, Poko
1p: Kyo, Maria, Meloco, Shinri, Pippa

>> No.55584062

>>55583988
>>55583701
Can Shiori replace Kronii in SNOT?

>> No.55584064

>>55583880
>here
But that's just it - it's only /here/. Despite Calli being a cringe drag on collabs for years, it's a sentiment that rarely if ever leaves containment. As compared to livers openly getting shit on by another liver's fans.

>> No.55584068

>>55583982
hey, that's Rosuuri, my drawing-oshi.

>> No.55584098

>>55584062
That would make it SNOB.

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>>55583701
Truly based

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>> No.55584111

>>55584062
We'll have to see her in a collab with SNO before deciding

>> No.55584136

>>55583312
Never read toheart2. Only thing I know this girl for is the absurd amount of NTR doujins she has that I've come across on various sites over the years.

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>>55583567
Actually just look at this banner…I already see subtle preferential treatment

>> No.55584152

>>55583960
?? You can keep trying anon. But you are the first person to come up with these Kikek shit and im not surprised if you are the actual antagonist.

>> No.55584165

>>55583570
>the branches aren't as unified as Holo are
I would say that they are somehow even more unified as a bunch of assholes that slowly morph to be the same toxic sludge despite the language barrier

>> No.55584182

>>55584062
No.

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>> No.55584195

>>55584152
yeah kikek because I'm the one running around grimposting advent because I'm that big of a holofag

>> No.55584209

>>55583438
I think this is what happens when you force fanbases with no relation to each other into the same "family".
I mean, you've got (or rather had, in the past, before everyone fucked off): Male gamer fans, male idolfags/cgdct fans, male coomers, female coomers, female yumejo, female fujos, female yaaas queen girlboss slay fans... All being forced to watch their completely different and incompatible genres of talents mix up. Of course it's an explosive and miserable mix of people.
Why the fuck would a male CGDCT guy want to watch his oshi talk to Luca? Why the fuck would someone who masturbates (or is in love with) Vox want to watch him hang out with other girls all day? Why would someone who wants Uki to fuck a bunch of boys want him to end up in a hotel room with girls? It's all just so stupid and obvious

>> No.55584218

>>55584062
Fuck off we're full

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>>55584062
I don't want my girlfriend in any of those groups.

>> No.55584221

>>55584182
but Shiori loves Fauna and Moom

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>> No.55584231

>>55584062
I'm willing to look at a trial run. She has to be able to play of at least 2 members memes. Mumei seems to get along with her so there's one she may work well with.

>> No.55584249

>>55584137
>5 ID
>5 EN
>5 JP

>> No.55584253
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>>55583952
yes, me because i'm old and i like leaf games (ray romano and wa2 are better but toheart is still a lot of fun)

>> No.55584252

>>55584195
>2/5 take your meds

>> No.55584258

>>55583448
Isn't the tournament only 3 povs?

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>> No.55584274

>>55583880
Lol
Lmao
the fact that people genuinely think so is why they have such a hard time blending in to do shitposts, like this>>55583660 >>55583897 retard here who somehow still doesn't understand how he keeps getting called out

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>> No.55584296

>>55584221
I just can't picture Shiori being able to fit into the dynamics that SNO has, she's just different, not bad, just different

>> No.55584300

>>55584220
That's for the council of SNO to decide. A gosling has no bearing on the decision. Just a punching bag for the rest of the fanbase and his oshi.

>> No.55584305

>>55584258
Everyone get a POV
So get ready for overlap hell in JP morning

>> No.55584308

>>55584209
I guess the JP cliques and the notion of "find a group that you like and stick with them" became a thing because of this

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>kikek
Who the fuck? What did I miss?

>> No.55584324

>>55584221
Having her in a collab with Moom would be dangerous. Their combined autism would blot out the sun.

>> No.55584327

>>55584104
I always genuinely smile when I see a Mumei 3d thumbs up post. Something about her expression and thumb feels so funny and weird.

>> No.55584330

>>55584252
Kikeks truly are the worst thing on this board

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>> No.55584345

>>55584220
>novelfags already acting like /HiRyS/tocrats
It's over for Shiori.

>> No.55584351

>>55583897
Too obvious kikek

>> No.55584355

>>55582312
>No one likes being lectured.
Western normalfags only enjoy art/entertainment that feels like *other members of the audience* (usually imaginary) being lectured. "You tell 'em, girl!"
Rin is going full Barbie. It'll probably work.
Death to cross-threaders.

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>> No.55584373

>>55584068
Yeah, it's for Noel's merch

>> No.55584375

>>55584345
see what I mean by stands out like a sore thumb?

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>> No.55584401

>>55584062
Best test would be to see if she can improv off of Gura's bits

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>>55584209
Facts; mixed collabs don't fucking work and the only reason they ever got numbers were because of fair weather Chinese fans who wanted crumbs of Luxiem/Enna. Other fanbases in NijiEN have barely any crossover with the other gender's, even after collab hell. And there are still livers in the company where an offcollab with males will absolutely kill their fanbase and it's fucked up that the Nijisisters are basically demanding it out of sheer spite now.

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>>55584323
basically

>> No.55584436

>>55584064
We literally have graph of Mori joining a collab and people fucking off.
This isn't a /here/ thing

>> No.55584442

>>55584221
She can talk with them behind the scenes and start collabing with people who can bounce off her autism. Holy shit, she herself said not to collab beg because she is not great with strangers.

>> No.55584439

>>55584375
That they always bring up fanbases?

>> No.55584468

>>55584323
some 2 view shitter from /here/ apparently. The Gura underaged clone that popped up had more fame than her

>> No.55584473
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>HOLOLIVE BOARD
>HOLOLIVE THREAD

>> No.55584486

>>55583455
Unironically I think it's the lack of onboarding.

For Hololive debut -
> Spaced out enough that a new gen will ALWAYS have a "fresh" feel.
> Good scouting means that all members WILL have some talent or quirk or unique niche that they fill.
> Spotlight on all the individual members first.
> Then spotlight on their dynamics with each other with gen collabs - strong "gen" identity, even down to whole "gen" oshimarks and fannames nowadays
> All the while, other members - both JP and EN - react to the new debuts, their quirks, likes, dislikes, and in general just looking at them with curiosity.
> Fanbase reflects talent, hence the fanbase also becomes curious and check them out, tries to find ideal collabs (slightly skewed in the EN side thanks to some of the fanbase thinking homos are also part of hololive).
> Two weeks in - onboarding the rest of the branch, FINALLY actual collabs with senpai, more dynamics, more fun, more fresh content!
> More reaction, more clips, more content, fanarts, animations etc. of interactions between talents.
> Finally, one month later, JP collab ban lifted - even more opportunities for collabs, dynamics, joining of big events etc. etc.

meanwhile, for Nijisanji debut -
> Shotgun approach means that at some point new gens will stop being "hype".
> Horrible scouting means that new members are often just random streamers and have no identity or quirk strong enough to distinguish themselves from the crowd of the other Nijis.
> Spotlight individual members only for debut.
> No collab ban, so no time to build a "wave" unity. Some waves are openly at odds (e.g. Ethyria) due to lack of PR training.
> Immediate collabs mean there's no time to build an individual fanbase. Chat is invaded by existing fans, bringing their memes, culture etc. to the new fellow.
> Newfags have to blend in to the culture at RAPID speed or get immediately filtered. Mostly results in only sub 1000 dedicated audiences staying on longer that that period.
> Thanks to shotgun approach, JP members often don't even know about their own branch debuts, much less that of EN. Thus no reaction content for clips etc.
> Any common points any livers share with the new recruits are therefore never brought up in their twitter or on stream - leading to zero new interactions - wasted potential.
> Fanbase also reflects the livers, this combined with the filtering of newfags means that most newer debuts end up as 3views unless they showcase a strong enough talent.

There's no real process by which new livers are "welcomed" into "greater nijisanji". Their senpai often don't even know about their existence, and even some of their own branch members might not really click with them much either, thanks to there being zero management involvement in PR shit or workplace culture codes.
Naturally, fanbase follows the liver, and if your oshi doesn't care about the new recruits, why would you?
And of course, the private discord server withoout management oversight means that they basically become high school level cliques with no one correcting course about their dynamics.

Every single one of these problems of course start from the very same shotgun recruitment approach they've had since the beginning.
In some ways I'd argue Nijisanji was always destined for failure.

>> No.55584497

>>55584323
Just some /here/ chuuba jumping in for her five minutes of fame during the Nerissa raid by being a retarded containment breacher, it probably got coopted as well by the actual raiders

>> No.55584537

I still find it surprising the 1 kiki anon is still trying push 3/5 when we can immediately tell its them. At least try to act like a different person.

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>> No.55584545

>>55584253
I'd appreciate a nice Karura/Touka/Kamyuu/Elulu image sometime then if ya don't mind. Utaware girls are so great and so underappreciated.

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>>55584442
Fucking finally someone with a brain

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>>55584409
Peep...

>> No.55584589

>>55583749
Could you picture Selen doing her idol reps? She's better off as an indie.

>> No.55584607

>>55584323
Kiki replied in an advent doxx comment and had to apologize as she was getting some heat from here
>>55583960

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>> No.55584636

>>55584537
Right?
Everyone knows it's actually 4/5

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Numbers?

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>> No.55584708

>>55584589
>Could you picture Selen doing her idol reps
yeah and it's hilarious

>> No.55584707

>>55584436
> people fucking off
Hololive is always people watching what they prefer.
The discussion here is about whether they openly get hate or not.

>> No.55584744

>>55584693
18k

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>Mumei slows down streaming
>Gura picks up the pace
Huh?

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>> No.55584791

>>55584064
>Calli

>> No.55584798

WAIT
GURA IS DOING JP STREAM!?

>> No.55584828

>FuwaMoco 2k subscribers away from 450k already
What do you think are the chances of them overtaking at least Bae and Fauna by the end of the year?

>> No.55584831

>>55584486
you bring up some good points, and also explains why buffs from one niji rarely spread to other nijis like what happened with salome whose audience came and vanished with her instead of spreading around like it would for a holo. And also explains why cross branch collabs aren't a buff like holos are

>> No.55584841

>>55584707
Well I don't know if this counts as "hate", but to this day she is the only member to get downvoted in the hugbox that is the subreddit.

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>> No.55584863

>>55583749
Maybe they should found their own small corpo, like NijiEN but females only. They could call it Vgirls.

>> No.55584865

>>55584828
Doubtful. They'll slow to a crawl soon.

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>>55583937
>20,176: Gura (Hololive)
>18,645: Shiori (Hololive)
>15,857: FuwaMoco (Hololive)
>12,841: Mumei (Hololive)
>12,767: Bijou (Hololive)
>8,440: Kiara (Hololive)
IMPRESSIVE.

>> No.55584871

>>55584486
Nijisanji as a whole reeks of someone who simply don't know or give a fuck about the medium and just throws shit at the wall to see what sticks before elevating it in hopes of more growth, it feels inhuman and robotic

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>>55584468
emphasis on shitter, this is her numbers after the dramabuff and having a thread on the catalog that's the fourth fastest on the site

>> No.55584900

>>55584828
End of the year? Unlikely. Within a year of their debut, very high.

>> No.55584919

>>55581908
>Elira's family thing ended up being a disaster
I wonder if Shiori's family thing will work. Or it's just that she describes the HoloEN dynamics that way.

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>>55584636

>> No.55584940

>>55584865
They haven't even started collabing with JP yet.

>> No.55584944
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Myth's SNS manager sucks ass. Advent's is on top of everything.

>> No.55584950

>>55584575
wasn't there a post just like that but about Finana?

>> No.55584954

>>55584693
16k

>> No.55584961

>>55584062
No fuck off, SNO is for western women

>> No.55584965

>>55584841
yeah because what she did was stupid
Also lets be honest here, her post was barely up for 20 minutes and most of the downvotes are from people who frequent here and know what her actions will result in

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>> No.55584991

>>55584894
Grim

>> No.55584997

>>55584961
so Nerissa then?

>> No.55584998

>>55584894
enough with your reverse shilling on that shitter.

>> No.55585018

>>55584998
what's the matter kikek, angry that you got called out?

>> No.55585017

>>55584940
mate HoloX is the most shilled gen of all time and they still could barely hobble along to 1 mill each in 2 years. the only reliable way to get cheap subs is apparently to go viral with indos

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>/#/ being manipulated as a hate platform by antis.
A tale as old as time.

>> No.55585032

>>55584944
>899
GO MUMEI GO

>> No.55585036

>>55584137
>4 ID
>5 EN
>6 JP

>> No.55585043
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>> No.55585044

>>55584950
Not sure if they turned it into a pasta, the original is an aloupeep going schizo during the whole Kyo thing.

>> No.55585052

>>55584693
21k

>> No.55585066

>>55584871
once in a while they can hire some pretty good talents but it's ruined by the company not caring
They're basically just people to slap on shitty keychain and make profit with that and management can and does actively screw them over

>> No.55585076

>>55584997
Yes. Say hello to SNOD

>> No.55585081

>>55583749
Reminder that nina is an anti-idol toxic woke bitch
and anyone who posts cringe like this anon is a trolling nijinigger
https://web.archive.org/web/20220809112641/https://docs.google.com/document/d/1DHArN7OPA2VG8K3VxLq-AOCr4LGi8ajH6RC_lPrMhjY/edit

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>>55585028
I have literally no idea what the fuck this guy's deal is

>> No.55585130

>>55584693
Saw twins getting popular with jop proceed to try to take them.

>> No.55585134

>>55585028
Oh fuck off and quit shitting up the thread, retarded avatarfag.

>> No.55585154

>>55585036
midget knife woman...

>> No.55585179

>>55584137
>3 EN
>4 ID
>8 JP
How is this fair?

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>>55585076
Sisterhood of SNOD

>> No.55585187

>>55585017
>holox have been around almost 2 years now
holy shit

>> No.55585195

>>55585119
If you checked further, he admits he holds no real allegiance and just wants to shit up /#/. Just report him for being a retarded attentionwhore avatarfag.

>> No.55585201

>>55585119
>Avatarfagging
Abortion Surviver Mentality and Behaviour.

>> No.55585207

>>55584693
16k floor
18k good
20k+ kneel
1 mil VOD by 6 months

>> No.55585215

>>55585081
Sis, it's time to let go, even your fellow doxsisters forgave her

also
>Her, a straight woman, flirting with the other girls to get WLW audience's attention, and trying to force or hint at ships with other girls for clickbait.

How is a bad thing again lmao it's pro-idol to the core

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>>55584473
Feels good to be the winner

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>> No.55585234

>>55585066
That's so weird, like the whole Salome situation, bots or not, they just let it slip past them and when they eventually started doing something it was just to shill worthless merch and sponsors

>> No.55585316

>no less than 3 leddit threads shitting on Kiara not reading skills and complimenting Fauna for putting up with that shit
huh

>> No.55585335

>>55585207
>1 mil VOD by 6 months
Nah. The algo hates vtubers now.

>> No.55585341

>>55585234
it's the natural result of the lack of management and support staff
Consider that despite having almost three times as many talents as cover, Anycolor, until recently, only had half the employees, and even to this day they only have 323 to cover's 4178

>> No.55585342

>>55584863
>Luca shows up and demands to collab with them in the chats

>> No.55585356

Grim showing by Shiorin yesterday, bleeding a lot of the raid she was given during a buff game

>> No.55585375

>>55585341
418*

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>>55585233
Get GFE. Get SAVED.

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i can't help but feel that she should have been a fps chuuba or be a part of vspo with her model

>> No.55585417

>>55585316
anon you do realize not everywhere is tainted by the constant tribalwar that is this place right?

>> No.55585450

>>55585316
unironically based

>> No.55585457

>>55585409
the model is abit of a mismatch but I'm sure we'll get used to it eventually

>> No.55585461

>>55585316
>smearing the girls
Tranny-chan just leaves it be

>> No.55585469

>>55584998
That guy's gonna keep shilling her till people stop responding. It's retardedly obvious. Even if he has a problem with what she's doing, why would he talk about it here instead of somewhere more on relevant? It's because people here respond and tell him to fuck off. Everywhere else would just ignore his who.

>> No.55585479

>>55585335
Yeah, you're right actually, as soon as I hit submit on that I was thinking it was more of a 2021 or early-2022 prediction than a mid-2023 one.
I'd amend that to
>1 mil vod by 10 months
Which I think should be achievable

>> No.55585489

>>55585233
not a fan of her brand of GFE, just seems like its so fake
i just want someone to talk to me like im a human being

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>>55583312
/news/ anchor
Reply with a short description of the news and a link to the source!

News from today:
>Vtuberse promoting SDG
https://nmf2023.peatix.com
>Multibe vtubers on some youtube thingy
https://twitter.com/YouTubeJapan/status/1688913713833869312

Yesterday's news:
>HACHI gets her own book
https://twitter.com/VTuber_style/status/1688535611576328192
>GREE(Guys behind REALITY) fourth quarter Financial Results
https://ssl4.eir-parts.net/doc/3632/ir_material_for_fiscal_ym4/139164/00.pdf
>Hololive nuts
https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1688716659039576064
>Chloe and Noel in Groove Coaster
https://twitter.com/groove_coaster/status/1688748527248433152
>Taiwanese aren't happy about gacha Meet&Greet tickets
https://game.ettoday.net/article/2556453.htm
>Suisei on billboards
https://twitter.com/BUSHIM_ongaku/status/1688852555139629057
>HACHI lives in Japan and Taiwan
https://twitter.com/8HaChi_hacchi/status/1688891596560117761

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>>55585356

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>>55585457
It's not a mismatch, you're just a retarded faggot, go watch rissa or kronii if you want a low pitch dommy mommy.

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>> No.55585551

>>55585187 (me)
Just looking at the numbers and..... Damn HoloX failed

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>>55585450
>>55585461
before you retards get carried away, he's talking about stuff like this and not whatever based shit I'm sure you're imagining

>> No.55585604

>>55585341
They need to do what hololive did back in 2022 and reorganized their management. The fact that their last big talent was the only one not from vta says a lot. They also need to make vta more value for people outside nijisanji.

>> No.55585610

>>55585551
>hyped-shilled product doesn't do as well as previous products
Many such cases!

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>> No.55585624

>>55585316
Brainlet moments give the audience a chance to make fun of a talent without sounding like an anti.

>> No.55585630

>>55585409
Fuck off
She’s becoming the hottest girl in hololive and her lust for men is making a hoard of men milk themselves dry for her at this rate

>> No.55585641

>>55585545
>Fuck you go watch your whore
>W-why is everyone means to us
And I thought kronies were insufferable

>> No.55585645

Once again I say: Feels extremely good to be a Nijifan, as in, JP fan. cant wait for the en branch to die already, i give it two years at best

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kek

>> No.55585677

>>55585641
this post smells

>> No.55585691

>>55585645
You should make a Kuzuha with a wine glass image, actually it surely already exists somewhere

>> No.55585699

>>55585641
why are kikeks like this?

>> No.55585704

>>55584693
This would have gotten big numbers if it happened on a Saturday where all JOPs could jump in.

But the VOD is gonna be GIRTHY.

>> No.55585732

>>55585195
Putting words into my mouth again. Tsk tsk tsk

>> No.55585746

>>55585489
That's what Mumei is for. Shiori is for other people.

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>>55585641
Nah fuck off with that, I'm tired of you fags shitting on her for every little thing.

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Is an Ina moment x10?

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>>55585732
oh wait it is the kikek, what's the odds

>> No.55585808

>>55585677
>>55585699
Funny how novelites can just insult the other girl and immediately go hide behind whatever boogeyman is trending in /#/

>> No.55585810

>>55583448
>I want her to play Baldruc Gate 3 and see the Bear
The Bear is:
-at least 10 hours into the story if you don't fuck around, through several difficult fights and shit
-has to be deliberately romanced (0 chance Gura is doing that to a male character)
-has to be deliberately asked to turn into a bear

You /v/keks need to let this bear shit go, you lost and its an insignificant part of the game.

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>>55585356
Advent needs to control their redirect behavior. Picrel looks painful. A 2-hour "full" bleed is still a bleed.

>> No.55585831

>>55585699
I am here tho? The "kikek" you are trying to slay is actually here. Anon is really dumb so sorry.

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>>55585610
All that hard work koyori has done, not even a million subs yet.

>> No.55585871

>>55585777
Depends on how justified it is
My instinct is to strongly discourage any vtuber from doing the chat scolding meme. However, I don't watch this talent, and people are saying her chat is dogshit because of her shorts spam greyfags. So maybe it was necessary I guess.

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>>55585798

>> No.55585881

>>55585234
yeah, she actually has a really good thing going and a top tier model and... Nothing happened. Just months of debuff games until there was nothing left. Then they buried her in dozens of worthless VTA reincarnations. Ibrahim was right to be worried.

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I love them

>> No.55585908

>everywhere else outside this hellboard everyone I know that's into NijiEN is taking Selen's side and trashing Anycolor for failing her yet again
>right here, everyone's blaming Selen for everything even though none of it seems to be her fault at all
Am I missing something here? Or is this how Nijisisters truly are?

>> No.55585912

>>55585808
it's funny how you still don't understand how the dynamic works and keep projecting the struggle session dynamiic you're familiar with

>> No.55585919

>>55585749
>The voice is A BIT of a mismatch but I'm sure she'll get used to it
>AAAA STOP SHITTING ON HEEEER LEAVE SHIORI ALONEEE
Jesus christ how thin skinned can you get you fucking faggot

>> No.55585923

It's 4am and Laplus is playing Valorant.

>> No.55585934
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>> No.55585943

>>55585746
unironically its why IRyS is my oshi

i love her so much

>> No.55585952

>>55585551
I wouldn’t say failed as a hololive gen, 3/5 are already past the million subs mark. They did fail relative to their shilling though; the way Cover hyped and promoted them you would think they were all sitting at 2 million subs.

>> No.55585962

>>55585908
>Or is this how Nijisisters truly are?
have we ever lead you wrong when it comes to nijikeks?

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>>55585409
Advent is a good contrast to the very colourful Council Myth, and they balance out the roster. They all look unique in that it gives off the impression of a "restart" or an advent of newer beginnings for holoEN. EN4 will most likely build on this approach. EN has Advent.

>> No.55585980

>>55585749
Flips deserve it

>> No.55585998

>>55585556
Kiara know better

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>> No.55586011

>>55585551
I blame Laplus

>> No.55586015

>>55585777
She collabed with Flayon and is collabing with Hakka this week. All that meanwhile all the idolEN fans are shitting on other corpos because theirs declared they would not hire male chuubas.

Rin unironically belongs in Niji or vshojo

>> No.55586039

>>55585971
ESL-chama...

>> No.55586041

>>55585912
Right right, keep justifying yourself to be a retard, I'm sure it will catch up someday

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>>55585878

>> No.55586064

>>55585526
did she make it to the top or it was just a zatsudan like Lamy?

>> No.55586065

>>55585551
Koyori is a good sidekicks for the senpais and Chloe actually move a lot of merch, so I wouldn’t said HoloX completely failed

>> No.55586068

I like ophelia’s vibes and the retarded games she plays. Nice asmr to

>> No.55586071

>>55585919
Voice is perfect fit

>> No.55586073

>>55585923
With how many males this time

>> No.55586079

>>55584308
The thing about JP is that they have VERY strong collab groups.
SKBgumi, SMC, Chronoir, Crossick, Sanbaka, Dokuzuhonsha, ROFMAO etc. almost all of them developed naturally and have a strong theming and affinity with each other.
So fans with flock around these particular groups and become fans of the "group" in particular because their content becomes familiar and known to them - therefore safe to watch.

But at the same time, this attitude also pigeonholes the livers into their "groups" aka cliques.
If they try to find fresh ground, it will often be difficult - first collab with someone will ALWAYS have a bit of awkwardness - but the fans of the person/group will IMMEDIATELY compare in to the established group and say how shit that is, and instead of going for this new thing they could've just hung out with their familiar, unchanging, safe group.
Because change is scary to them.

Possibly with good reason though, since there's infinite amounts of permutations of niji combos, 80-90% of them will inevitably be shit, so the 10% that survive that process and become "staple" will have much more of an allure.
> you already have an established group, why are you searching for more?
> these guys are already there for you to collab with, and you have better dynamics with them, why do this new thing? it sucks btw, your old group had better chemistry
etc. etc.
Thanks to most livers not having any form of PR training or management assistance, they will simply bow to what they think the fans want and continue being in their old groups without trying new things.

But the thing is, fans don't really know what they're missing out on unless you give it to them. These "submissive" type livers will often find that if they keep sticking with their old cliques, their content eventually becomes stale and the same people that told them to stop doing new things will eventually stop watching them as well.
Some livers might be aware of this though, and they will ignore these type of "fans" and continue collabing with new people in order to keep their content fresh.
They often become the centre of several controversies, but at the same time will also become central figures around whom MANY livers will revolve.
Folks like Mayuzumi, Ryushen, Kuzuha etc. will always look within and outside niji for new people to make content with.

But with that level of confidence, there also comes ego. Some of them will often disregard fans' wishes as they think they're above them (and from their POV they're right, since the detractors for their fresh content were wrong). Once again thanks to lack of PR training or any form of management, they often conflate the fanbase being wrong about one thing to being wrong about EVERYTHING. Leading to more controversies, more flame, more infighting with other fanbases etc. etc. all the while the liver continues thinking they're right because their fanbase worships them while the rest of the world hates them.

Nijisanji is like a high school classroom that's run by the students for YEARS on end without ever having a single teacher.

>> No.55586080

>>55585971
yeah I was actually planning to bring it up but it got lost in the hype, but advent feels really unique in hololive in that each chuuba lacks a distinct color theme that dominates the design, instead having only highlights. I'm guessing this is what some people meant when they say they don't feel like hololive designs

>> No.55586082

>>55583455
>>55583282
NijiEN fans arent like this at all except in 4chan. Outside of here in twitter and youtube they criticize
>>55584486
You should first understand how a nijisanji debut works because you are generalizing nijisanji as if the methods are the same when in JP and EN alone they are different, with VTA alone existing making that already a big difference.
Outside of that, tehre is a collab ban. In JP its one month, in EN its one week for same branch and one month for outsiders and other branches.
more than half of your post is actually mainly about EN either way, it seems
>In some ways I'd argue Nijisanji was always destined for failure.
it exists for 5 years and its not even close to end so I wouldn't say so.

>> No.55586115

>>55585866
>All that hard work koyori has done, not even a million subs yet
See it this way. Hard work accounts for only about 200k subs extra to the bottom line. That's actually pretty grim if you ask me. No wonder nobody in Hololive does the Koyo strats besides Kaela.

>> No.55586124

>>55586082
and the doxxsite, where the actual die hard nijifags gather

>> No.55586132

>>55586064
She rage quit and raided Mumei after a few hrs.

>> No.55586134

>>55586071
That subjective

>> No.55586150

>>55586015
She's a giant prude, she would have an aneurism after a week in either of those. She really just doesn't fit in anywhere.

>> No.55586163

>>55585923
I fucking hate these Valorant bitches. They corrupted Reine.

>> No.55586169

>>55585908
I saw at least two loyal nijiniggers in the QRTs trying to wave away blame from the management though.

>> No.55586188

>>55586064
it was mostly a zatsu, I don't think she even made it to christ the redeemer

>> No.55586202

>>55583937
the 20k streak is alive, but just barely
will Gura take the honors again or will either Advent collab win the day?
find out tonight, on HoloEN Z

>> No.55586204

>>55586064
She started with a handcam, then played the game

>> No.55586211

>>55586079
This reasoning feels eerily similar to the ones who disparaged hololive fans for wanting a new gen

>> No.55586214

>>55585908
No, you're not missing anything, the response outside of here that you're describing should be the normal human reaction to this situation.

>> No.55586217

>>55585908
yes you are missing it, you are very retard if you think the ones talking here are the same as the ones shitting on en management. its hilarious how you fags are saying nijien fanbase when its only the fanbase in here, specifically the selen haters, that are doing that.

>> No.55586250

>>55586124
I've seen more criticism out of that shithole than /nijiEN/ where criticism just gets underage girls screaming "AMONG US THEY'RE AMOGUS" and "SHOW ME YOUR COCK"

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>> No.55586293

>>55586080
I remember Koyori saying they feel like HoloX or something. They also have a somewhat muted design but I think the HoloX colors stand out a bit more.

>> No.55586295

I think jailbaits are extinct

>> No.55586300

>>55586188
Cristo Redentor

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what no management does to a motherfucker

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>>55585971
JP has holox.

>> No.55586333

>>55586169
2 against what? more than 100 on her side? and thats not even holo fans, those are clearly nijifans
you guys should look at the entire picture instead of going to /nijien/, which isnt even 100 people, and call it a day

>> No.55586338

>>55585777
>Still feeling asspained at Ina

>> No.55586341

>>55586295
did you mean jailbirds?

>> No.55586346

>>55585551
La+ fault , same shit as Kronii. The stars ended up being menhara
>not their fault for everyone else not getting subs
It is, just look at Gura bringing everyone else up with her and Kobo doing the same.

>> No.55586356

>>55586250
whatever you might think of it, the anonymous upvote/downvote system actually helps discussion on that site alot because it prevents one shitposter from sparking a bunch of "no you" style responses and completely derailing the discussion

>> No.55586359

>>55586115
Sub stopped being a skill matter years ago, just get lucky with the algo

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I miss them

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I want to fuck this niji

>> No.55586396

>>55586295
It's no longer 2000s internet unfortunately

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Abe-sama needed to train more chads like him https://twitter.com/livedoornews/status/1688869067044855809
>Bad energy accumulates in the women's womb
>It is my duty as a messiah to give them positive energy
I-I kneel, groomer-chama...

>> No.55586428

>>55584919
Hololive has always been more of a comfy type family where any and all bullshit is solved behind the scenes privately.

>> No.55586434

>>55583790
NijiEN dying can really only be attributed to the perplexing decisions constantly made by management. They were in a solid spot and were comfortably the #2 EN branch behind HoloEN (hell, they really still are) but baffling decision after baffling decision is not only pissing off the fans but it's also pissing off the talents which is why they are leaving en masse.

NijiEN is on life support.

>> No.55586441

>>55585493
>That belongs to Fuma
Why that 2view shitter bros……..?

>> No.55586455

Why won't Fauna stream her POV
Why is she insisting on helping shitters

>> No.55586459

>>55585971
They look shit

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>> No.55586465

>>55586303
that's pretty good right? equal or better than what she got in Niji, better than what she got previously as an indie

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>>55586329
Holox is super colorful, though?

>> No.55586489

>>55586293
Those was Koyori's initial impressions from the Advent posters. But HoloX has the Holoxer merch but not Advent so i guess that just her theory.

>> No.55586498

>>55586465
In Niji she got over 1k easily

>> No.55586508

>>55583749
I'd honestly rather have more unknown idolfag types like Advent rather than known entities.

>> No.55586532

>>55586455
With the release of EN3, Fauna and Gura are now moving into stage 2 of the masterplan. No Holo left behind

>> No.55586548

>>55583937
If Mysta's shitty graduation wasn't this month I could easily see HoloEN sweeping August.

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>> No.55586573

>>55586338
I'm actually not all that bothered by Ina which why I say if that's an Ina moment ×10. It's one thing to say in the middle of a stream to chill about something compared to making whole ass slide and threatening to ban people.

>> No.55586583

>>55586080
>each chuuba lacks a distinct color theme that dominates the design,
This. It definitely points to it being a deliberate design choice to make the gen feel more uniform and close. They look an actual unit instead of the Power Rangers colour palettes we've grown used to seeing.

>> No.55586584

>>55586293
yeah, they do, but even holoX still has a very distinct primary color for each chuuba, unlike advent where pretty much everyone's primary color is black, sans bijou

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>>55583616
where is dababy

>> No.55586591

>>55586428
I wouldn't call it a family really, but more of an environment that approves of professionalism

>> No.55586598

>>55586508
Kek

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>> No.55586636

>>55585777
this just makes me want to masturbate to xir more

>> No.55586660

>>55586459
And the retard Nijivermin reveals itself at last.

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>> No.55586737

>>55586583
ESL-chama...

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>>55586549
Cow holos like Noel, Fauna, Watame and Moona should do a daycare stream with holobabies like Iroha, Miko, Luna and Nene.

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Why

>> No.55586764

>>55586660
Yeah the design look very Niji
You guys are only praising it cause it belong to EN3

>> No.55586767

>>55586737
it's euro hours, we are all esl here

>> No.55586779

>>55585971
>Fuwawa in the middle
Triggers my tism

>> No.55586780

>>55583399
Don't underestimate IRyS. She has proven herself to be some kind of gaming savant. Remember the Mario Maker tournament? When she did her practice she literally didn't even know how to jump. Then a week later she is the best player in the entire tournament and carried her team to the championship.

>> No.55586796

>>55585234
If it was bots it would be an obvious explanation for why Anycolor didn't invest in Salome. Salome WAS the investment, and the investors were the returns.

>> No.55586803

>>55586467
4 of them are essentially black and white + something just one step removed from red (or just plain red in chloe's case). I wouldn't call them super colorful.

>> No.55586811

>>55586756
>Moona
Pls no I don’t like her accent. Give Lamy her spot or even Reine

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>> No.55586829

>>55586761
https://twitter.com/weissschwarz_en/status/1688671358295633920?s=20
this, appearently

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>>55586295
Theirs glowies everywhere

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>>55583438
>>55583455
>>55584209
>we are totally not like this btw - holobronies
>please ignore CGDT division, 35p vs nousagi and us constantly being schizo about Tempus

>> No.55586854

>>55586764
>Design look very Niji
I don't see any bandages tho

>> No.55586866

>>55586359
>Get lucky with the algo
That's the oldfag mentality for you. Honestly good fucking luck with that.

>> No.55586879

>>55586854
kek

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3w3hY_3XnM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3w3hY_3XnM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3w3hY_3XnM
GOOBA ON A ROLL

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>>55586811
Oh right, I completely forgot about Lamy being a titties monster too

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>>55586848
Oh look, is this a genuine nijisister in the wild? I've never seen one before. So fascinating.

>> No.55586918

I did some snooping and here how each myth fanbase here feels about advent.
>Deadbeats
Bijou-Love
Twins-Love
Nerissa-Dislike
Shirori- Neutral

>KFP
Nerissa-Love
Twins-Love
Bijou-Neutral
Shiori-Neutral

>Takos
Nerissa- Neutral
Bijou- Neutral
Twins -Dislike
Shiori- Loves

>Chumbuds
Nerissa- Dislike
Bijou-Loves
Twins-Love
Shiori-Dislikes

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https://twitter.com/SunsetSkyline1/media
Rin's single lewd artist will fully move unto Shiori now lol

>> No.55586946

>>55586761
>Checked twitter and her name is Amelia Watson
Was Ame's twitter always named "Amelia Watson" or was it "Watson Amelia"?

>> No.55586950

>>55586498
When you take anycolor's cut into consideration maybe she's doing better now

>> No.55586957

>>55586854
Ok you got me with that one, I concede
Tho I myself prefer Holo to be colorful, mute color look boring

>> No.55586961

>>55586586
Sorry Luner but tally is only for sexy grown ups.

>> No.55586969

>>55586848
>proceeds to list falseflags they participated except for Tempus

>> No.55586972

>>55586303
anon.. those numbers are worse than she had before

>> No.55586981

>>55584693
15k

>> No.55587025

>>55586932
Many such cases when people feel slighted at something not even directed at them. I call it the "the world obviously revolves around me" mentality.

>> No.55587027

>>55586946
always has been western style just like Aki Rosenthal

>> No.55587030

>>55586961
Why's Gura and Bijou there....

>> No.55587035

>>55586918
Why would takos dislike the dogs?
T. ex tako filtered by timezone

>> No.55587039

>>55586848
Tempus isn't Hololive, never will be either, because the fans gatekept them too hard.
The fans gatekept them to avoid the exact situation NijiEN is in (completely successfully, btw)

>> No.55587046

>>55586932
Nah, he was on /jidf/ saying he's gonna continue lewding her since the stuff she said just applied to chat

>> No.55587050

>>55586918
Can you try to keep ordering consistent next time?

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>>55586761
you made me check the trends and I don't know what to make out of this

>> No.55587106

>>55585908
That's how they've been since Zaion? I believe.

>> No.55587111

>>55586498
hm, true
i thought she was in 3view territory but she was terminated too soon to get there
still, despite burning that bridge throughly, she gained viewers compared to her time as an indie

>> No.55587118

>>55586918
/wg/ is a few doors down, go peddle your fanfiction there

>> No.55587138

>>55586932
Rin is a autistic prude and a homo collaber, this stream wouldn't be what breaks the camel's back.

>> No.55587139

>>55583790
Selen isnt banned to have tournaments. Its international ones,and if anything she gives me the impression that shes fed up with the process of organizing it more than a ban per se, which also would make sense for why she can do EN because its likely easier. Those kind of things do have a lot of approvals and shit going on so I wouldnt be surprised if it was the case.

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>> No.55587154

>>55586918
So cumfarts are the ones spamming this 3/5 nonsense

>> No.55587163

>>55586918
Everything about Takos is a straight up lie, what the fuck are you talking about

>> No.55587186

>>55587039
it's funny too because they actually had the favour of the holobox at the start, but in their hubris squandered it by not realizing that the favour has conditions attached. It's why to this day all the members of tempus 1 are higher subbed than tempus 2

>> No.55587201
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>> No.55587205

>>55587111
Of course she did. Anyone who joins an agency and then leaves have more fans than before. The agency is the one who give you more visibility in the first place, and thats why anyone joins nijisanji

>> No.55587211

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/qokHN26PgYE

>> No.55587214 [DELETED] 

>>55587154
why are kikeks like this?

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>>55587138
Will this mindbreak her?

>> No.55587242

>>55587163
It's just shitposting and samefagging, anon, nobody has any sort of crystallized "dislike" opinion about Advent one fucking week in.

>> No.55587251

>>55586918
proofs?

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>> No.55587264

>>55587228
Yes

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>> No.55587279

>>55587111
It's because she was a retard and took like a month off showing her IRL face at Offkai. What a fucking dumbass

>> No.55587278

>>55583790
Anycolor has the internal data for nijiEN and they probably saw the revenue decline from the entire branch and concluded it was not worth it keeping alive.

>> No.55587280

>>55584323
a nijinig samefag

>> No.55587285

>>55587095
When gura does a 20k stream

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>> No.55587315

>>55587294
my cute autist wife

>> No.55587317

>>55586918
I really doubt any of the "dislikes" in this list are from genuine regulars

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>> No.55587324

>>55586918
>IRyStoSharts
Bijou-HATE
Twins-HATE
Nerissa-HATE
Shiori-HATE

>> No.55587331

>>55587025
Many such cases when an e-thot feels it necessary to lecture a group of people. It kills the mood and people just fuck off to something else.

>> No.55587353

>>55586211
There's a reason the "anti EN3" posters were mercilessly squashed.
The girls asking for new blood put and end to that bullshit before it even got anywhere.

>> No.55587354

>>55586918
Sure, have more (you)s but seriously, I'm in love with a hikki who wants to /become/ Japanese, why the fuck would I hate FuwaMoco?

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>>55587294

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>>55587294
>smile at the sight
My baby with Shiori~n

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>> No.55587403

>>55587285
>can't even come close to NijiJPs
Grim.

>> No.55587426

>>55587294
Did she made this on ChatGPT?

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Oh nyo

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>> No.55587456

>>55587331
Then fuck off bro. Why screech like a monkey here and in the catalogs?

>> No.55587482

>>55586848
> CGDT division
only done by shitposters
> 35p vs nousagi
same person, pekomikosuischizo
Lurk more if you want to learn how this thread works, boy.

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>> No.55587498

https://youtu.be/u73C_D2mvWo
leech prime corpo

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>> No.55587532

>>55587456
>Why screech like a monkey
They're SEAniggers. It's what they do.

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>>55587294
Shiori~n LOVE

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>> No.55587557

>>55587456
No one cares about your leeching whore. Fuck off. Back to pcg or wherever she's from.

>> No.55587578

>>55587294
She can't keep getting away with it

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>>55587482
>only done by shitposters
rumao

>> No.55587604

>>55587139
Internal EN tournaments are fucking nothing though. That's the thing. If they're banning her from doing international ones...why other than the fact that they're going to start being treated like second class citizens like KR/ID

>> No.55587615

>>55587498
sugoi

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>> No.55587625

>>55587294
Why is she like this?

>> No.55587649

>>55586932
Isn't this dude that homobeggar? She can keep him.

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>Her own channel
>Completely hide her model for her collab partner
I really hope she grows out of that "groupie" phase and start realizing people comes to HER channel for HER, not to hear her gush about other Hololive member

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Kirameki Rider>>Connect The World>Our Bright Parade>>>>>Shiny Smiley Story

>> No.55587691

>>55587294
cute wife Shiori~n

>> No.55587707

>>55587294
My girlfriend is so cute

>> No.55587734

>>55587587
Was this a meme made by a gook? It has those vibes

>> No.55587742

>>55587652
Anon it's not that serious, it's supposed to be her hiding behind Shiori because she's scared.

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>> No.55587766

>>55586918
That list is full of shit.

>> No.55587770

imagine fuwamoco baldurs gate 3

>> No.55587776

>>55587294
Shori~n's so cute

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> There's newfags in the catalog seeing the "All out War" leak for the first time

>> No.55587787

>>55587675
The only based thing in this whole post is Kirameki Rider being above all.

>> No.55587788

>>55586079
Is this also the reason why the HoloJP girls were suprised when they collaborated with the NijiJP girls and they said that they don't actually talk to each other offstream?

>> No.55587792

>>55587557
Retarded tribalfag

>> No.55587798

>>55587652
I see her hiding behind shiori presumably because she is scared, it's a joke

>> No.55587799

>>55587675
i think connect the world is kinda mid because solo parts don't belong in songs like this, especially with such a large percentage of not great singers. the song itself is ok

>> No.55587813

>>55587139
>if anything she gives me the impression that shes fed up with the process of organizing it
Nothing in her post leads to that belief, she clearly got told no, and then “and you no longer can organize international tournaments”

>> No.55587815

>>55587278
I wish it was the case and they just shut down the branch but imo its just typical anykara overseas mismanagement. EN management is bad, much worse than JP ever was. Its like anykara loses their brain whenever they step outside of Japan

>> No.55587816

>>55587652
More like it depicts her being very afraid of horror.

>> No.55587818

>>55587770
Is there dog bestiality?

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>> No.55587861

>>55587783
Where? I want to see reactions.

>> No.55587866

>>55587652
Joke thumbnail. Creative too. Way better than copy-and-paste fanarts other mems do.

>> No.55587879

>>55587783
Anon, people in this fucking thread were asking about Blue Ayame and KING

>> No.55587881

>>55587742
I know, but i say that because it's not the first time.
She did the same thing for the L4D2 collab, putting herself all the way to the left

>> No.55587903

>>55587652
Only this cesspool could be autistic enough to come up with this conclusion.

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>> No.55587936

>>55586202
It should be the advent collab. They've proven to have a daily 20k+ box around that time so 2 advents in one POV> Gura pandering to JOPs on a workday

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>>55587798
>>55587742
NTA, but this is her L4D collab thumbnail. Could have sworn it's Shiori's channel. Maybe Shiori is right about her after all.

>> No.55587954

>>55587370
Why is your baby black?

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>>55584195
>>55587214
>yeah kikek because I'm the one running around grimposting advent because I'm that big of a holofag
that's exactly what you're doing. not a holofag, just a faggot

>> No.55587973

>>55587813
That's the impression I got from the way she worded it, that she was trying to make these work but the rules are too complicated to make it approved and she just gave up and wont do it anymore.
>>55587604
I dont think its something specific to her. The problem is... selen is the only one in EN that does that, unlike in JP where more than 15 could do it.

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>> No.55587998

>>55586329
HoloX have much stronger colors. Iroha's the only washed out one

>> No.55588014

>>55587866
Using live 2d thumbnail is something that's mandated during debut month. We'll start seeing fanart thumbnails very soon

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>>55587954
Because I'm black.

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>> No.55588029

>>55587942
Well apart from her name being there

>> No.55588045

>>55587903
>2/5 almost 80% are defective.

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>>55587734
Yeah, gook Hoomans were spamming that and this one on some Korean image board or whatever, an anon posted a screenshot several threads back

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>>55587942

>> No.55588105

>>55587954
Goth baby

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>>55587973
>I dont think its something specific to her

>> No.55588142

>>55587973
I don’t think Selen is a quitter and if she is, it leads credence to the rrats that’s she’s fed up and looking for a way out, which is a worse rrat and with less fundament than just management having a new internal rule about who gets to organize company wide tournaments

>> No.55588174

>>55588048
Lmao these are a riot. I wonder what the other fanbases have.

>> No.55588173

>>55588048
Almost as unhinged or even more than hoomans here.

>> No.55588182

>>55588120
anon i meant that it can only happen to her because in en shes the only one doing it.

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>>55588020
That child will be painted brown with my Genes instead. My race is the more fertile one

>> No.55588214

https://impomu.com/

>> No.55588230

Bijou - cunny and gamer
Nerissa - idolchad, singer, /u/baiting and dommy mommy
Fuwamoco - CGDCT and /jp/
Shiori - GFE and edgy schizo
yeah Advent is absolutely cracked and each one of them fulfills a niche, even without the obligatory anti idol homocollaber

>> No.55588251

>>55588142
It could be both ways, honestly. Either a new internal rule, selen just giving up or... these tweets just meaning these things because shes going to graduate.

>> No.55588256

>>55588214
>that banner
lmao

>> No.55588267

>>55588014
FWMC are using fanart in some of their thumbnail already, i don't think it's mandated

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>> No.55588304

>>55588214
https://imissfauna.com/

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Go go Stone Luna

>> No.55588317

>>55587675
Parade > Kirameki > Prism Melody > SSS (haven't listened to Connect)

>> No.55588338

>>55588251
The thing is: I don’t even believe is a **new** rule, only that the whole EN branch got recently “demoted” in the eyes of HQ and lost a relative autonomy they had in relation to (ex) ID and KR

>> No.55588342 [DELETED] 

>>55588267
Gomen. Wasn't paying attention. I
But it's definitely encouraged.

>> No.55588363

>>55586079
Just to say but crossick isnt a thing for a year already. SMC and Sanbaka are gens, and ROFMAO was created by JP management to be a unit, just like with nornis.
Anyway in a way you are right, Nijisanji culture be it wit hfans or livers is different from hololive and always have been since day 1. As someone who began as holo fan and went to nijijp later on, its clear as day.

>> No.55588369

>>55588120
To be fair it might be a case where all NijiEN are banned from doing this.
Other livers would be then about main branch being allowed to do them.

>> No.55588381

>>55587788
Possible. When you're under that much pressure from the fans without any support, you're kinda reluctant to reach out.

>> No.55588435

>>55588338
Ill only believe this is the case when they stop getting any merchandise, voice packs, new waves or any investment like ID/KR. otherwise, its just the same EN as it has been for 2 years.

>> No.55588437

>>55584693
14k

>> No.55588436

>>55587861
there's a thread up with the leak as the op

>> No.55588438

>ESL hours
Burger bros... I don't feel so good

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>>55588316
LET'S GO BIBOOOO

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>>55588014

>> No.55588497
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So numbers for EN tonight are on Shine and Gura? Does Niji have anything to offer? Mysta graduation buff?

>> No.55588509

>>55588316
I don’t see the top 3 chumbud promised me

>> No.55588521

>>55585215
kill yourself nina

>> No.55588525

>>55588441
I NEED to see her feet

>> No.55588552

>>55588497
Mysta is gonna have to A) do karaoke or B) actually graduate to beat a mundane Gura stream.

>> No.55588557

>>55588316
>Gawr Gura
WHO ARE YOU AND WHAT YOU DID TO MY SHARk?!

>> No.55588556

>>55588435
>when they stop getting any
That’s a too steep bar to clear, what about a more modest one, and see how the new EN wave is treated for their 6 months anniversary.
Luxiem and Noctyx got good things for that milestone, didn’t they?

>> No.55588560

>>55588316
Hory sheet. Is this the first time EN has been on their list?

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She won’t leave us again will she?

>> No.55588591

>>55588316
>Gura
AIEEEEEEEEEE

>> No.55588632

>>55588316
EN is healing bros...

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>>55588316
We're a healing person.

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>> No.55588656

I've been trying to get into NijiJP a little more since they were respectably doing well last month on a numbers perspective but the one thing that ultimately can't make me a full time fan is the apparent favoritism I keep seeing. I won't give out names of certain livers since it's blatantly obvious as to who management keeps preferring for big events, lives, sponsorships etc. but when there's livers who don't even have 100K (yes, 100K) subs like Yuuta I start to get worried how they're supposed to be in the same agency as a heavy hitter like Kuzuha for example. In Hololive by contrast I've seen lower tier JPs like Roboco get plenty of recognition that doesn't make her look like a complete virtual unknown like Yuuta for example. I mean obviously there's more popular Holos like Suisei for example, but it's to a point where the average Holoris can name or at least recognize all 35 JPs at once. HoloEN and HoloID are often included in big events, but I don't see NijiEN get included so often and if they do, it's only a select few from there as others get left out every time. I really hate to say it but I don't understand the apparent bureaucracy I keep seeing in Nijisanji. It makes me question the fandom and how fans of lower tier Nijis feel about the ones leagues above them in every department imaginable. It's like a complete contrast from Hololive. You just know something isn't right at all.

>> No.55588679

>>55588316
Subaru is a boy.

>> No.55588706

>>55586918
KFP is the least common denominator.
If you can have Kiara as your oshi, then anyone else are okay, too

>> No.55588710

>>55588571
Chumbuds are setting themselves up to be disappointed yet again

>> No.55588712

>>55588560
If that site existed in 2020 Gura and Ame would have enough hours watched to make to the list, and Gura to either the top or second place (in Oct 2020)

>> No.55588718

>>55585215
>reddit spacing
>shit opinion
pottery

>> No.55588719

Thoughts?
https://youtu.be/APPNn7h9nKY?t=2616

>> No.55588723

>>55587652
Don't be so autistic dude

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I kiss IRyS and Shiori through my monitor!

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>>55588525
dozo bozo

>> No.55588738

>>55588556
They got some custom merch, but with the caveat that those two waves could be expected to sell a decent order's worth. Iluna not so much, giving them just generic merch would be justifiable without meaning anything has really changed.

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>> No.55588809

Every day I'm just flabbergasted when I remember it's been over a month since they shadow suspended the Tempiss faggots and lied about it.
They did the same shit with Gura's hiatus too, always locking threads about it but never addressing the issue.
What the fuck is this new directive of "total secrecy". If the faggots aren't terminated then I can already bet they'll just return without ever addressing the shadow suspension.

>> No.55588820

>>55588725
HOLY BASED. Now kiss shiori too and you'll be forgiven.

>> No.55588845

>>55588656
I’ll be sincere: I know lots of Nijis (for dabbling on their numbers in this thread), I might say I know some 50 of the main branch alone, maybe more.
I know some from the bottom as well Like Hajime, Naruse and others but…
…who the fuck is Yuuta?

>> No.55588844

>>55588656
If you're sensitive to that why would you even bother with Niji? They got like 200 people and are well-known for promoting the popular members more. The Hololive model would be catastrophically wasteful for them.

>> No.55588905

>>55588809
Nijivermin really can't blend in huh? It's kinda pathetic mate. Go back!

>> No.55588908

>>55588656
>I've been trying to get into NijiJP a little more since they were respectably doing well last month on a numbers perspective
Are you a retard?

>> No.55588916

>>55588738
ILUNA is over a year old already, I’m talking about the new one, the one with a liver called Wilson
>which for all intents could be a made up liver just to see if people are paying attention

>> No.55588918

This thread feels strangely comfy recently for being tribal central. Was it a worse shitflinging shitshow back when nijiENniggers could still contend in 2022?

>> No.55588917

Anyone else wishes there was an holoEN orisong that focused on telling actual story?

>> No.55588930

>>55588557
>>55588560
You guys need to calm down, it’s weekly numbers

>> No.55588935

>>55588656
Niji seems to be more individualistic while Holo has a group dynamic.

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>> No.55588970

>>55588930
No. I will not calm down.

>> No.55588992

>>55588809
Gura moved back with her Mom. All the internet and PC issues were because of that. Maybe they did find mold in her old house and was fucking her up.

That said probably did get suspend at one point or another because she would listen to omega

>> No.55589002

>>55588656
>I've been trying to get into NijiJP a little more since they were respectably doing well
>DEMON SLAYER SOLD HOW MANY COPIES??!! NOW I HAVE TO READ IT!

>> No.55589015

>>55587370
too bad you are a nigger so no chance at getting a woman like that irl ever

>> No.55589031
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>> No.55589048

>>55588556
>>55588738
anons, half year merch exists since edengumi last year in JP. it was then adopted to EN, so it went to newer gens like Luxiem, Noctyx, Iluna and Xsoleil. Same is true for JP with ranunculus, voltaction and Idios.

>> No.55589049

>>55588930
NTA but never did I see a list where an EN got in, even the weekly ones. Maybe I missed some.

>> No.55589065

>>55588992
Or the gas leak which is why she was seeing hallucinations

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>>55588316

>> No.55589135

>>55588918
The world is a better place without Nijisanji

>> No.55589147

>>55588845
kek

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>>55588020
>I'm black
My condolences.

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Bijou has been getting up later and later every day since debut.

>> No.55589184

>>55589120
I hate Mori so much

>> No.55589190

>>55588656
Yuuta isnt a full time employee and she said many times she does it for fun. Shes not interested in working on it and she uses vtubing as a mean to distress from her actual job.
Outside of that, maybe you should look at Symphonia concert where you'll see an entire new roster compared to last year with only Mito and Kenmochi remaining, and most of the members not being top tier except mito, kenmochi, lize and salome

>> No.55589219

>>55589065
Oh my god I totally forgot about that, you're right, she was talking about seeing apparitions and hearing stuff right before her break

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>> No.55589305

>>55588316
>Gura will never be in global char-ACK

>> No.55589308

>>55589219
That was me

>> No.55589311

Oh nice, 10 million
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCQ_zZIiGLA

>> No.55589315

>>55588918
Schizos can't multitrack drift between more than one thread. I've seen a regular pekora jpchad wanker in the bau Bau threads behaving themselves like a normal person.

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>> No.55589372

1.5k waiting room for beej mario kart deluxe, buff game? predicts?

gura is going 1hr later than twins collab, doing a jp tourist stream. i think the order is more important and since neither twins nor gura has shown to bleed to each other. twins will get bigger number at this overlap.
raid baby and rissa better hope the collab lasts 2 hours or those numbers are gonna get siphoned off a 1hr waiting room

>> No.55589376

>>55589219
Remember she also keeps warning people about headphones shocking their heads and harming them recently too. I really think that shit hurt her. I remember her complaining about a specific set of headphones doing that.

>> No.55589397

>>55586548
Mysta's doing 2 karaokes and the actual graduation so that's probably 3 wins for him barring some EN event or Gura karaoke. Also might get a gold for his 2nd to last stream since it's a big group totsu similar to a birthday.

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>>55589315
Glowie

>> No.55589428

>>55589372
>mario kart deluxe
Debuff if you don't do gimmicks.

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>> No.55589465

>>55589048
I understand that. If you follow the thread the conversation is about whether the EN side is showing signs of “demotion” and a first obvious one would be poorer merch / no merch, mirroring (ex) ID

>> No.55589467

>>55589376
Gura seeing ghosts and being electrocuted by headphones has to be one of the weirder absence rrats I've heard.

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>>55588316

>> No.55589487

>>55588845
Wasn't Naruse once one of the higher Nijis numberwise years ago?

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>>55589407
I'm always watching.

>> No.55589526

>>55589467
The electrocution thing is unironically true, though I doubt it had much to do with the absence. Way more likely it was just work + omega's BS getting to her.

>> No.55589528

>>55581867
eh is "small ban" even a thing in yt chat other than like temporary time-out?And they can actually keep a record of it? I've got myself multiple accounts shadowbanned from holo EN channels usually without any clear reason (other than that one time Kiara banned me for spoiling moronic Amazon LotR show).

>> No.55589552

>>55589467
Absense? wtf are you talking about? I'm talking about why she moved back home. Also, do you not think having an electric shock going through your head repeatedly won't do something to your retarded brain?

>> No.55589560

Since it's a multi-pov collab, who do you think will get the raids, Rissa or Shiori ?

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>> No.55589583

>>55589487
I truly doubt. Maybe you’re confused and thinking of Honhima?

>> No.55589622

>>55589190
Thanks for the reply. I didn't know that about Yuuta actually I was wondering why everything just seemed so grim numberwise. As for Symphonia, do you mean this year's? Or the one for NijiU last holiday? Would like to compare and contrast.

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>> No.55589652

>>55589526
legendary cope discussion

>> No.55589657

>>55588656
Anon I know that most people don't really care for Nijis in this thread and probably won't notice it but there's no niji named Yuuta in their roster.

>> No.55589667

>>55583451
eh even Finana used an actual dildo for it

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>>55588316
Good job, Biboo!

>> No.55589696

>>55586548
Only reason we'll never see a month long sweep is because there will be at least one graduation each month

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>> No.55589712

>>55589552
There is not enough current going to headphones to cause that, unless you’re an absolute retard, did all your PC wirings yourself and somehow connected the earphone wires to the main

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>>55589467
The whole helmet stuff happened because her mom would call her everyday because she would faint.
>Faint
>Hallucinations
>Tired all the time
Now for the past few streams she talked about her mom driving her around and the wii console that ended up being her old Family console from before.

We went from Gura having the most stable connections to zing and her PC struggling and her having to be png tuber. Maybe she finally got all the bad stuff out of her system

>> No.55589736

>>55589583
Someone told me his earlier years he was one of the more popular ones and it stuck until 2020 when newer or different livers stole the spotlight? Honhima always seemed like she was popular to me.

>> No.55589748

>>55589311
34m+ when you add up nonMV/MV/topic

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>> No.55589768

>>55589696
At some points, the buff won't matter much like the NijiID graduation train

>> No.55589785

>>55589736
Maybe he was in an era where there were only some 15 of them or so. I wouldn’t know, that’s back when I didn’t know there was such thing as a “vtuber company”

>> No.55589795

>>55589049
You are missing the other half of the story, EN never managed to squeeze in top 10 not because they number low, but because top 10 are occupied by HoloJP
This time around you can see top 10 is missing the usual face like Miko, Korone, Okayu and who didn’t stream much last week, so naturally EN get pushed up. If those 3 streamed regularly last week Bijou and Gura would get bumped out of top 10

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>Gura didnt stream because ghosts, headphone electrocution, aliens and 5G cell towers

>> No.55589806

>>55588918
thread always used to be peaceful during these hours, it's only recently that EU schizos came up.
they might be distracted in the catalog rn, or maybe you just got used to their presence.

>> No.55589826

>>55588656
anon you're retarded for moralfagging and making dumb jp to en niji comparisons whereas your focus should be on whether you can succeed.
just look at EN and see if you have the means to be a big male vtuber. you talk about favoritism, then do you know who to suck up to?

>> No.55589856

>>55589560
Would make the most sense to raid whoever is lowest but they might just not raid so as not to have to pick.

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>> No.55589904

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67hH4EGaH8A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67hH4EGaH8A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67hH4EGaH8A

Sub 10k?

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>> No.55589977

>>55589904
For Gura? yes absolutely


>>55589802
Chumkeks cant stop setting themselves up lmao

>> No.55589987

>>55589904
Depends on her skills and how much entertainment she can make out of the game

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>>55587942
She probably put them in that order because it's the standard formation for Advent.

>> No.55589996

>>55589904
She will get to 10k but not much more

>> No.55589997

>>55589785
I swear to god there was a time where guys like Naru and Air had way more mindshare but I could be wrong.

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>> No.55590034

>>55589552
>Also, do you not think having an electric shock going through your head repeatedly won't do something to your retarded brain?
it was just static electricity from her $1500 chair
https://youtu.be/W62vlsIGzY4?t=181

>> No.55590048

>>55589904
2k waiting at t-minus 30 mins. at least 5k+ at the start

>> No.55590051

>all of these newfags who don't know who yuuta is

>> No.55590056

>>55588316
I know I'm gonna sound like a schizo, but between this and her motivation to do big events and adapt Pekora's stream ideas for the EN audience, I think this is the beginning of Gura's Pekorification. You read it here first.

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>>55587942
>>55589991

>> No.55590067

>>55589806
>always
Not really. At any point of the day, if this thread is peaceful, one or more “decoy threads” are hot on the catalog.
Right now I would say it’s the Rin one, earlier the Selen one.

>> No.55590110

>>55589712
Ok, you're retarded. thanks for letting me know i guess. It only takes 10 mA to harm the human body. A good headset pushes around 20. Directly shocking your head with 20 mA or even 10 mA repeatedly would cause problems for anyone.

>> No.55590119

>>55590034
kek that spark jumped like 4 inches

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>> No.55590126

>>55583455
Wait, hold on, you guys don't know why? I can tell you why.
Nijisanji is a company that runs on extractive institutions, which lends itself to social stratification, and thus extractive social cliques, as well as extractive economic implications.
Nijisanji, by virtue of it's large system of laborers, held together by an extractive corporate-managerial structure, promotes extractive concepts within the talent pool. Since the talents have no means of gaining economic capital without going directly through the Nijisanji payroll, they have no choice but to play by the rules of their game. That game is ruled by popularity, but disincentivizes collaborative popularity (unless it is by way of corporate mandate), because collaborative projects do not generate collaborative income.
Following this model, talents will either become lone wolf actors, harming the collective forces that work to create a pluralistic talent pool, or fall into cliques, where select elites work to lift themselves up, at the expense of those who are not near the levers of power.
This has a cascading effect, a Vicious Circle, where the extractive institutions on an economic level bleed into extractive, stratified social circles. And this stratification bleeds further down to the fan community, where they have no reason to form pluralistic fan bonds with other fans, or other talents, that do not fall into their in-group.

>> No.55590135

>>55589806
Thread was shit at eu hours forever because there was some retarded vesperfag that wanted to shit up the place during his streams

>> No.55590151

>>55590056
>Adapt Pekora stream idea
Hold your fucking horse, they do nothing similar

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>> No.55590168

>>55590034
lmao i believe it now.

>> No.55590175

So people were saying that EN3 would kill Tempus #s, since its been a week already is there any graphs showing it? Kinda wanna know if there was any noticeable change.

>> No.55590176

>>55589997
Maybe trying to fish for that multi colored collage with the ones over 10k, 5k, 2k might shed some light on the issue but, again, I only realized Haachama and Aqua were somehow connected when the Azur Lane collab dropped and something called Holo Live somehow connected Aqua, Marine and other girls

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I wonder how this channel would have done if they focused on doing a Holo cover song instead

>> No.55590184

>>55589904
Biboo my love

>> No.55590185

>>55588918
To answer your question because other anons simply cannot read. Yes.

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