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Nijisanji is the social justice company

>> No.55539619

Im sick of this
don't they know the reason why people watch vtubers

>> No.55539704

>>55539619
because they hate humanity?

>> No.55539741

This is good though

Stop bootlicking corporate Hollywood

>> No.55539816

>garbage millennial sjw writers and their woke hollywood circlejerk are hard working

lmoa

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>>55539539
I like some the Vox streams. WHAT THE FUCK DOES HE KNOW ABOUT HOLLYWOOD???

>> No.55539884

>>55539741
they are nothing but wealthy parasites on wokewood. the same greed.

>> No.55539888

>>55539829
Just SUPPORT THE CAUSE ok!?

>> No.55539917

>>55539619
Loneliness?
Lack of human interaction?

>> No.55539947

Vox is anti-Neuro?

>> No.55539971

ai apologists lost when ai "creators" started paywalling their shit. Now everyone sees they're artistically bankrupt hacks that want to get paid for inputting tags on a program and having it print an image

>> No.55539973

>>55539741
Just because bob iger is a terrible ceo doesn't mean that disney's recent writers and actors are any better. Hollywood as a whole sucks ass these days, and this insufferable faggot is throwing his little, worthless hat into the ring.

>> No.55539986

>>55539816
>I will allow corporate America to exploit workers and set a precedent for replacing creatives with AI just because I don't like them

>> No.55540057

>>55539619
Different reasons but you probably think everyone is like you.

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on one hand, he's doing the right thing by using his popularity to raise awareness of an anti-megacorp cause.
on the other hand, vtubers are about escapism more than any other form of entertainers and he's doing the wrong thing.
there's no right or wrong answer.

>> No.55540150 [DELETED] 

>>55539973
>terrible CEO
that's an oxymoron

>> No.55540169

Of all the charities he could have chose. Just, why? This is the hill he wants to die on? Christ just do something for the kids or cancer. How fucking hard is this? What is going through his mind?

>> No.55540216

>>55539986
are you defending woke garbage and those fucking wealthy and hypocritical celeb fuckers and talentless sjw writers

hollywood is already starting to implode. see disney.
they all should be burn to the ground

>> No.55540220

>>55539971
Print machine apologists lost when print "creators" started paywalling their shit. Now everyone sees they're artistically bankrupt hacks that want to get paid for inputting print orders on a program and having it print books.

>> No.55540227

>>55539539
>Ame harps about how she has literally no say about Cover and AX, and will do what she is told
>>Holofags sleep
>Vox has an opinion against Corpo bootheel oppression
>>REEEEEE HOW DARE YOU
I'm starting to think Holofans are just contrarians

>> No.55540287

>>55539986
>exploit workers
shut up commie scum

>> No.55540328

>>55540287
fuck off libcuck

>> No.55540353

>2%er talking about unfair pay

>> No.55540382

>>55540216
I'm defending the rights of workers
It's a bigger issue than your tunnel vision obsession
And it affects more than just Hollywood

>> No.55540424

>>55540353
All the more reason to talk about unfair pay

>> No.55540428

>>55540287
>>55540328
Aren't you guys shooting friendlies here?

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>>55540069
>anti-megacorp cause

>> No.55540486

>>55540069
>vtubers are about escapism
He says this while posting Shiori

>> No.55540565

>>55540220
Printing someone else's manuscript is not a creative endeavor

I was going to say this is a fallacious metaphor, but really it's extremely apt when comparing to AI "art."

>> No.55540677

>>55540353
>2% meme still on merch
>We STILL don't know Hololive's %, only Not-Coco's wish of 50% sales, which she simultaneously pulled out of her ass since she has no idea how much is invested in mass-scale merch, along with getting right since Nijisanji's Kanae and Kuzuha stated they get 50% from VPs

I would unironically, probably die of laughter, if it's discovered HoloEN gets 0% until milestones are met

Which would explain why Mori, IRyS, Bae, and most especially Kronii were pushing so fucking hard for certain milestones in their respective merch sales

>> No.55540710

>>55540227
Like how Vox bows to his Chinese overlords for his SCs?

>> No.55540728

>>55539973
still prefer that over AI, at least you have a face to shit on

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>>55540227
more like non-vtuber fans using holo to recruit retards in their ranks

>> No.55540819

Yet one more sign of blaring and brilliant proof that unions are dogshit, pocket communist biomes, that libcucks prop up to get max pay for min work

>> No.55540882

writers are not the working class

>> No.55540889

>>55540819
>to get max pay for min work
What's wrong with that
Fuck work and fuck you

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>>55539986
If their work is so shoddy that they can be replaced by AI, they should be.

>> No.55540910

>>55539986
>corporate America to exploit workers and set a precedent for replacing creatives with AI
A handful of Hollywood corps don't decide that, the global market does. The strikers might win some concessions from the studios but the writing is on the wall as they say. No technology that is effective and easy to use has ever been stopped.

>> No.55540962

>>55539539
>bong defends everything woke and amerimutt

lol the absolute state of britishers. its not your country or your people, mr. bongistani

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>>55540382
>WGA, SAG-AFTRA

They ARE Hollywood, and the current crop of writers are responsible for garbage like marvel "phase 4", the latest Star Wars trilogy and those shitty, live action remakes of disney classics. Not to mention rings of power and the witcher. You write shit, you get paid shit. Wake me up when other, more important unions join in.

>> No.55541002

>>55540891
You should know it's not about quality of work.
It's about execs saving money.

>> No.55541003

>>55539539
and that's why they are nijiniggers
now you get it
now you see

>> No.55541013

>>55540227
>I'm starting to think Holofans are just contrarians
You realize this just now

>> No.55541065

>>55540882
Are police working class?
They have unions

>> No.55541093

>>55539741
>do you hate the jews who own hollywood and fuck kids more or the jews who get paid by them to write netflixslop and fuck kids
there are way more of the latter so its an easy one for me

>> No.55541184

>>55541002
Judging by the quality of the slop that's coming out lately, it is. These hacks have less creativity than literal machines.

>> No.55541188

>>55541002
In an ideal world, both wokies and fat executives/bankers get burned alive at the stake. For now, I'll take the suffering of the former as an advanced payment, and keep hoping for the latter.

>> No.55541201

Hollywood is rotten from top to bottom. It just a case of hyena eating each other.
Fire all the writter, burn all the studio, hang the directors, feed the actor to the dogs.
Let the hollywood implode and decentralize the film industry.
Only by starting from blank slate can the rots go away.

>> No.55541204

>>55540889
The fact that you think you'd be the one doing no work as Union Rep for a fat paycheck, is just the level or retardation unions need for you to sign the paper

>> No.55541208

>>55539741
They can all get fucked for all I care. Not a single redeeming quality to either side.

>> No.55541232

>>55540382
I'll wait for the day those narcissists in LA stand up for people like you and me then. What are they gonna do? Go on SNL and sing a song about getting vaccinated? I support the rights of the everyman. Those Hollywood freaks can rot for all I care.

>> No.55541272

I hate all the people in Hollywood anyway. I can’t even bring myself to like the writers nowadays after they ruin all of my favorite series and push their stupid agenda. I hope all of the studios and the writers get fucked up immensely because of these strikes.
Less slops being produced is a good thing anyway.

>> No.55541303

>>55541208
Basado.

>> No.55541322

>>55541188
>I'll take the suffering of the former as an advanced payment, and keep hoping for the latter
You know that that day's never going to happen if you keep handing them wins, right?

>> No.55541343

>>55539539
Are his chinese owners ok with this?

>> No.55541370

Yeah, they really showed their worth with such classic television like Witcher Season 3, and Secret Invasion and how that ended. Also allowing certain people to work as actors while there is a strike and having complicated rules where you aren't sure if you are allowed to cosplay, write reviews for a movie or be accused as a scab. Also threatening influencers with a blacklist if they take sponsorship from movies, even if they aren't even working in that union, but allowing actors to still do conventions but also not allowing them to talk about their past roles they did before the strike. Honestly, if you dig deeper into the issue other than the few things that people will agree with, that being better pay and streamer transparency, every other thing is a convoluted mess and they certainly wont' get it. You can't guarantee job security by increasing how many writers are on times the number of episodes a show has and you aren't going to get studios to restrict the usage of AI. I think studios have the advantage in the waiting game because they can cancel all those projects they regret green lighting and pay for more foreign content and reality shows to fill in the gaps. It's not about who is right in the argument but who has the advantage and it's looking like the studios have it now.

>> No.55541441

Why are nijisanji against neuro-sama?

>> No.55541505

its like saying you should defend american comic creators despite all those trash woke comics.

never forget vox is/was one of e-celebs. also his remaining chink and sea fans never give a shit about amerimutt globohomo garbage like this and dont need to. its just counterproductive.

>> No.55541506

>>55541201
Hollywood isn’t going to be smited anytime soon, God doesn’t need good movies

>> No.55541532

>>55539539
Hollywood still has human writers? Couldn't tell.

>> No.55541555

>>55541188
fucking tankies kek. .

>> No.55541609

>>55541343
I bet they fucking love it. The more money the WGA has the longer they can strike. The longer work stops the more Hollywood and America's global cultural influence diminishes. Chinks are too reactionary to play 5D chess like that, but it still plays into their filthy little insectoid hands.

>> No.55541611

>>55541322
1 out of 2 is better than 0. But if this somehow leads to 2 out of 2, then that would be the best outcome ever. At any rate, we'll never be rid of capitalists unless a massive, armed revolution happens. They're just that entrenched.

>> No.55541628

>>55541065
police is a goverment service, artists are entertainment.
neither are the working class.
Janitors, welders, hairdressers, nurses, garbagemen are working class

>> No.55541646 [DELETED] 

>>55539539
>isreal
No fucking way. Imagine whiteknighting Jewish saboteurs who have poisoned Hollywood. I'm so sorry Nijibros.

>> No.55541647

>>55540677
>2%er fans are projecting too hard; they're starting to make up scenarios in their heads.

>> No.55541666

>>55541441
Vedal does more work in a single stream than your average union simp does in a lifetime

>> No.55541677

>>55541188
They want wokes dead too
They’re just you but in charge

>> No.55541710

ill give money to jewcorp only to spite vox

>> No.55541738

>>55539539
>tfw you hate hollywood jews
>tfw you hate the niji chinks
You can’t win at all… and why would his fandom care? They are all Chinese women. This caters to no one.

>> No.55541817

Oh no, what will I do without all those shitty shows that I don't watch. Oh well, back to watching vtubers.

>> No.55541824

>>55539539
I like the communist imagery for a corporate shill who supports a union whose endgoal is going back to work for their wealthy masters.

>> No.55541893

>>55541555
>"executives being given fat paychecks, golden handshakes/parachutes by failing upwards is a good thing for this country"

Yeah, I'm sure you were cheering when Obama bailed out the banks and they used the money to give their top execs huge bonuses, instead.

>> No.55541901

>>55539539
He’s going to keep the money. At the end of the day.

>> No.55541942

>>55541647
>make up scenarios
>Weeks of laughing at Mori's failed vinyl sales, Kronii's merch staying in warehouses, and Bae and IRyS crying on stream over their latest videos not hitting some random number are all purged from thought because it might make holo look bad in this one instance
yet more proof that Holofags would back Male collabs today if it meant it inflicted damage to the spectral image of Kurosanji

>> No.55541965

>>55541611
>But if this somehow leads to 2 out of 2
I mean, it won't. You're literally saying "I sure hope handing more money and power to the rich and powerful will lead to their demise"

>> No.55541985

It'd be easier to support people looking for better pay for their work if they didn't bundle stupid stipulations like "you can never use generative AI in movies we work in", as if we should've rallied behind natural medicine doctors practicing with leeches and bloodletting rather than supporting technological advancements

>> No.55541988

>>55541555
>Hard working actors
Lmao. There may be exceptions like Jacky chan or tom cruise but a famous actor that I can't recall the name (I think it was Dustin Hoffman) once said that the job of acting for Hollywood was essentially about sitting 8 hours per day in chair and not having self pride

>> No.55542055

>>55541666
He’s a lazy cunt
Vedal HATE

>> No.55542120

>>55540486
Chuuba vocal about behavior being distant from humanity, don't see the problem there. There are far more flesh-tending talents that could've been there

>> No.55542169

>people get unfair pay
How will we show that they should pay us more?
>make a charity stream
What? Assume this work and they make a bunch of money out of charity, why the hell would the people paying them give them an extra cent for that, instead of using this as a excuse to pay even less?

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>>55539539
Why would I support the betterment of an industry who hates me?(and I hate in return).

>> No.55542329

>>55540382
I despise you worthless commies and am delighted to see you lose the jobs you held only because you were available
God Bless AI

>> No.55542423

>>55539741
>wah we get paid $1000 a day when employed it's starvation wages!
nah fuck the lot of them. the mega corpos and the parasites that latched on to them. burn the entire system to the ground.
and fuck vox for this, absolutely pathetic he's even involving himself in this meaningless shitshow.
my guess is he sees himself as part of the same boat as the privileged shitters in hollywood. which just begs the question how good nijien livers must actually have it because all those people in hollywood are entitled prats.

>> No.55542431

>>55541628
I have some news to share with you
If you work for somebody
And nobody works for you
You are a worker

>> No.55542478

>>55542329
Capitulating to the corporate overlords is a lot more communist than fighting for the rights of the individual

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>>55541965
Look, like I said, "in an ideal world". Right now, we have to deal with BOTH shitty, entitled writers, and shitty, entitled execs. They're all born privileged, and failed upwards. We're at the juncture where either one side loses and consumers gain something or the status quo remains. I'm just trying to be pragmatic, here.

>> No.55542503

>Holofans find humor in 2%
>Holofans want writers to live off essentially .2% from their corporate overlords
Reminds me of Ame's AX conversation and how quickly Holofans showed their true colors

>> No.55542615

>>55542503
>Holofans want writers to live
I don't.

>> No.55542623

>>55542497
>one side loses and consumers gain something
What makes you think the consumers gain anything when the people on top win?
You know THEY'RE the root problem, right?

"Oh I sure hate those fucking writers" well who do you think hired them?

>> No.55542697

Human or AI written, I have no interest in the endless drivel of member berry reboots and remakes.

>> No.55542737

>>55539539
Fuck actors.
Fuck writers.
Fuck crew members.
Simple as.

>> No.55542840

>>55542737
>I want to say "fuck unions", but i was told unions are good for us
Good goy

>> No.55542850

>>55542737
What about vfx artists?

>> No.55542903

>>55542850
Practical or digital?

>> No.55542962

>>55539539
Why should I care about Hollywood? When was the last time we had good movies that are not woke shit?

>> No.55542994

>>55541942
>They're actually a failureee!!!
Holy coping.
Also, I still remember how Yugo kept being hounded by his manager over his number in his leaked chat.

>> No.55543007

>>55542850
Fuck any "artist".

>> No.55543009

>>55542623
And if the writers win, then what? Will wokeness be eradicated? Will we get better movies and TV shows? Fact is, it's a lot easier to wipe out the current crop of writers than the megacorps and their execs. If the writers win this, the latter will just lose a super, tiny portion of their money and we'll STILL be getting shitty Hollywood products. Better have one side killed off than both living in symbiosis.

>> No.55543051

>>55542903
Pretty sure it’s the people who set up the green-screens and shit

>> No.55543058

>>55542478
Individuals have no rights nigger, let's not forget that "corporate overlords" exist because you faggot commies got rid of the nobility who are the rightful overlords.

>> No.55543098

>>55542840
It's not the 1850s anymore. Unions are fucking worthless.

>> No.55543181

>>55543058
Silence peasant
Go feed the animals

>> No.55543180

>>55539539
Blackcolor
>2% merch cut

Nijifans
>IT'S A SOCIAL JUSTICE COMPANY

What's wrong with them keep on supporting a company that doesn't care about the livers?

>> No.55543212 [DELETED] 

x27kAZhas7
Finally found someone with new Kagome, did a bunch of bad decisions on purpose to see if she could do literally anything, but I don't think so. At least not until she gets magia.

>> No.55543211

>>55543009
So
>execs win
Business as usual (shitty, cheap, effortless trash)
>writers win
Business as usual (shitty, cheap, effortless trash) but the execs have less power

And it's better for the execs to win because...?

>> No.55543245

>>55542431
sure, but that doesn't make you working class

>> No.55543325

>>55543009
You are a special bread of retarded. The privilege of living in your parents' basement, I guess.

>> No.55543422

>>55543181
Yes m'lord, harvest is looking good this year

>> No.55543519

People really think highly of themselves to expect their actions to somehow defy the absolute momentum of human nature and cause the world to transcend itself

>> No.55543610

>>55541901
That would be unironically based.

>> No.55543821

>>55539741
Sorry, modern writers are garbage at their jobs and produce garbage product. Its more effective to let this protest die and for all the writers to lose their jobs. This way corporate will see the people want different content and they will stop hiring woke losers. Capitalism wins baby.

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>>55543211
>execs have less power

Less power to do what? The WGA/SAF-AFTRA demands will not change the dynamics in the consumers' favour. The corps might have to pay 1-2% more to increase the so-called "starvation" wages and comply with other demands, but otherwise the execs will come out practically unscathed, and at the same time, the writers will be even MORE empowered to churn out the shit they already do. In fact, they'll feel vindicated to produce worse things.

The execs aren't shaking in their boots right now. They're just being obstinate. A deal satisfactory to these unions won't curb their powers in any meaningful way. It's akin to millionaires being total karens over a few extra dollars on their dinner bill. Even if they eventually have to fork them out, it won't change their behaviour.

>> No.55543962

>monarchists ITT
I’m just gonna sleep

>> No.55544023

>>55539539
is he pandering to US now that chinkz leave him?

>> No.55544044

>>55543821
Damn man, I want to live in the fantasy world you are in,

>> No.55544051

>>55539539
Did niji higher up approve this?

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>>55539539
>supporting hacks
Can nijiEN fall even lower?

>> No.55544083

>>55543821
>This way corporate will see the people want different content and they will stop hiring woke losers.
That's not how that works. If all the writers (and actors) disappear, they'll just hire new ones (or replace them with AI) to keep making 80 Marvel films every year because they print money.

>> No.55544097

>>55544023
Chinese love pretending to be communists too.

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>>55543325
And what are you? A woke monkey born with a silver spoon who spends his days xeeting about "social activism" on his X handle, which is filled to the brim with rainbow and toothpaste flags?

>> No.55544123

>>55544051
uki also raised a charity fund for the rainbow crew so I'm inclined to say that they did

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>>55544111
>X

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Woke this, woke that. How about you wake up with a bitch in your bed for once?

>> No.55544232

>>55539539
>Hollywood writers get unfair pay
ROTFLMFAO

>> No.55544265

>>55544083
Replacing them with AI is the ideal scenario.

>> No.55544321

>>55544097
They are very communist if we’re talking about their authoritarian government that restricts free speech

>> No.55544348

>>55544215
Why the fuck would I want to sleep with a bitch? You wokies are so vapid, you'd let literal subhumans be in bed with you. Birds of a feather and all that.

>> No.55544357

>Oh no, the money jew and the culture jew are fighting

Someone explain why I should give a flying fuck?

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>>55544265
>AI producing anything good

>> No.55544504

>>55539741
the only good coming from it is the fact that the shitty writers are all not working and making slop

>> No.55544530

>>55544265
ChatGPT can’t hold a candle to even the shittiest writer. Have it write a script to the Seinfeld episode. It’s the least funny shit.

>> No.55544550

>>55544044
The only shows making money these days are either marvel goyslop that is pretty much apolitical, or boomer action movies with white male leads that twitter people seethe about (extraction, terminal list). All the stuff the people on strike for is failing in the market. Corporate only cares about money and they can see the winds changing.

>> No.55544563

>>55540220
must be the dumbest metaphor for a creative argument but what do you expect from an ai apologist

>> No.55544566

>>55544530
Seinfeld ended 25 years ago.

>> No.55544630

>>55544530
Seinfeld's writers were actually decent, though. Try to use chatgpt to rewrite rings of power, or the witcher TV show. You'll be surprised.

>> No.55544642

>>55544530
Ai Seinfeld on Twitch was funnier than anything a Netflix writer has come up with in the last 5 years. It got taken down for shitting on trannies.

>> No.55544677

AI has the potential to convince corpos to graduate all their talent and make them Neuro-sama copies, thereby saving money and boosting profits. Do you want that, /vt/? Do you want your oshi to be replaced by shitty, soulless, vapid AI?

>> No.55544699

>>55544123
Still weird, tho, I thought Japanese (chink) company would rather stay away from controversy.

>> No.55544752

>>55544074
they are beautiful unlike holokeks

>> No.55544756

>>55544677
Neuro is my oshi tho

>> No.55544781

>>55544357
leftist leaning people are scared of losing influence as a field they had dominant presence in is under threat, so they are trying to pull some sort of" One Struggle" with everyone.
>It was the evil corpo that forced the writers to write californian-sensibility adhearing drivel

>> No.55544811

>>55544550
The only thing I disagree with you on is that marvel's recent slops have been apolitical. Shit like m-powered and the new captain america giving a lecture on how the country "should do better" are very much political.

>> No.55544879

>>55544550
The problem is that movies no longer are supposed to make money and consumers are irrelevent.
These films get investment money from the banks, when the film crashes it doesn't matter the banks just keep financing the same shit as they print more money. The losers are the public who get inflation.
We have not lived in a capitalist society for nearly a century

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>>55544677
Please don't compare my oshi with the talentless hacks that produced she-hulk and rings of power.

>> No.55544974

>>55544530
I made chat GPT write a Stalin speech but in the form of gangster rap. It was funny and I giggled a little. That is more than I can say for anything that has been produced by Hollywood in the past 10 years.

>> No.55544982

>>55539619
I only watch ones that are funny lolcows or do playthroughs of games I like.

>> No.55544994

>>55544811
Oh youre right I forgot those existed. I don't expect the new Marvel generation to be very popular. Stuff like Spiderverse gets a pass because its a visual masterpiece.

>> No.55545024
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>”gotta support the cause”
No. I don’t think I won’t. I’ll just play an old video game instead.

>> No.55545045

>>55544550
I think you really got isekai'd anon, check around you, probably have a harem waiting for you somewhere.

>> No.55545058

>>55539539
never gave a fuck about that guy but good on him and Niji, fuck hollywood capitalist pigs, all power to their workers, don't care if they are already rich as long as they don't own the means to produce they deserve better, as all of us do
BUT come to think about it Niji doesn't have the best track record as an employee

>> No.55545110

>>55545045
Gaslighting like this only comes from women.

>> No.55545121

>>55544677
Neuro exists and has a public. Normal vtubers exists and have a public. They can coexist, same thing with any AI generated shit. We didn't destroy everything that was manually created just because of automation.
If your oshi loses her job in her company because of AI, follow her in her new job.

>> No.55545131

>>55544550
>marvel goyslop that is pretty much apolitical

Do you have a room temperature IQ or are you being deliberately subversive?

>> No.55545144

>>55544677
I'll just follow my oshi

>> No.55545189

>>55545058
>t. useful idiot

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>>55544879
To an extent, I agree with you. It's an open secret that companies are scrambling to boost their ESG and DEI scores so that they can keep getting money from the goys over at vanguard or blackrock. The question is, though, how sustainable is that? These financiers aren't simply giving them money ; they're essentially loans. Eventually consumer's goodwill be exhausted to the point that the losses are too significant to ignore yet they still need to repay what they were lent.

>> No.55545227

>>55544677
Just the ENs like Vox and the sluts he collabs with, Neuro is perfect and will never stream with a male or cheat on me

>> No.55545247

>>55540353
He would know

>> No.55545258

>>55545110
Motherfucker thinks all box office hits are apolitical, I can't get two minutes into movies without seeing political bullshit.

>> No.55545281

>>55545058
theyre writers...how do they not own the means to produce...its in their head.

>> No.55545346

>>55545189
because I support workers? good one, retard, everyone should

>> No.55545398

>>55545058
>communist can’t see everyone involved is greedy
As usual

>> No.55545403

>>55545228
ESG is already over. Blackrock is publicly rolling back because they keep hemorrhaging money to fund wokeshit. Expect these people to start losing their jobs en masse in the coming years. Rightfully so.

>> No.55545423

>>55539539
Good for him, most WAG staffers are talentless ideologue hacks but but that seems to be more a result of Hollywood bacterizing their positions to churn out cheap crap straight to streaming series. Something only Amazon really got right as it's more just a bonus to having Prime than a draw in itself.

>> No.55545433

>>55544879
banks and investment and printing and financing are all literal capitalist staples what do you even mean, shitty goyslop movies exist because of it

>> No.55545487

>>55545423
>bacterizing
bastardizing

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>>55539539
Question for those who dislike the striking writers and actors: do you want the strike to fail? If so, you are de facto supporting the studio execs.

>> No.55545530

>>55545346
>I support the people which inherently support the current system through their ideological bent writing but I think that they are just like me so I will unwittingly support their cause even though they are the other side of the coin to the execs.

Writers hate you and want your money.
Execs hate you and want your money.
If you believe anything else, you are absolutely a useful idiot.

>> No.55545564

>>55545398
it's good and based for the workers to be greedy because at the end of the day they are the ones who truly make stuff, this whole fact approves, if unknowingly, of the fact as we saw from the outrage that le 1% cut caused

>> No.55545580

>>55545526
How am I supporting something I'm never going to see in the first place?

>> No.55545592

>>55545526
I don't want the strike to fail. I want it to succeed so hard that the industry collapses.

>> No.55545628

>>55545144
Your oshi won’t be able to get a new job due to AI. Unless she goes indie for a massive pay cut.

>> No.55545663

>>55539539
How the fuck nijiEN hires people?
Or they're gay, or a menhera, or a chinese that lives on a english-speaking country, or all of that together
They just need a tranny to make the team full

>> No.55545672

>>55545526
Yeah I support the execs.

>> No.55545678

>>55544504
They'll just get scabs to keep the slop machine going.

>> No.55545681

>>55545058
their "workers" are also capitalist pigs, redditor. theyd never give you a single penny since they are also the fucking greed. its just wealthy talentless workers vs wealthy braindead execs.

>> No.55545680

Vtubers?

>> No.55545686

>>55545526
>if you don’t support the writers you support the executives
How about I support neither? Both are apart of a system that has shoveled out shit, and ruined good entertainment for nearly a decade now. Fuck them both. Both are the system.

>> No.55545699

Fuck the shitty woke “writers” and “actors”. We need more great conservative films like Sound of Freedom.

>> No.55545700

>>55545592
only thing that's going to collapse are streaming services, sorry

>> No.55545734

>>55545564
>because at the end of the day they are the ones who truly make stuff

Without exec organisation, planning and talent acquisition, the synergy of creatives wouldn't occur, at least not at substantial level enough to produce quality content in a reasonable timeframe.

>> No.55545791

>>55545592
How do you expect this to happen? The WAGs just want more money. Its fully within the studios to give them more money without collapsing anything, they just dont want to.

>> No.55545795

>>55545700
Good. Less streaming services = less money for corpos and less money for writers.

>> No.55545808

>>55545530
>Writers hate you
Damn you are kinda got me here because to an extent it's true because they are very clearly happy to regurgitate le current thing and capitalist propaganda, but still everyone should support strikes everywhere, though clearly some, like say railway workers, deserve the support much more

>> No.55545816

>>55545699
Movies don't need people anymore, just get the AIs to make endless trash for empty theaters.

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>>55545526
Living with one evil is better than living with two. Even if the writers "win", the execs will just move on, sans a few million dollars. And we'll be right back to square one, force-fed with agenda-driven, low quality slops. If you could share with me the secret to bring down people like kathleen kennedy, I'm all ears, though. But this little strike ain't it, chief.

>> No.55545854

>>55545686
If you dislike both, neutrality is the only sensible option, or maybe whichever side would most likely lead to your desired side. Getting angry at workers you dislike for striking against someone else you dislike seems weird.

>> No.55545877

>>55545816
AI is shit compared to even the shittiest, most woke writers.

>> No.55545885

>>55545681
>wealthy talentless workers
not a gotcha, I want to see the workers become wealthy, same way I want my oshi to, the less is robbed by the baron the better, simple as

>> No.55545888

The longer the strike goes on, the more sequels and reboots of random things from 30-40 years ago get axed. So I guess that's a good thing.

>> No.55545922

>>55545791
I want the writers demands to be so unreasonable that either way the industry collapses

>Studios refuse demands, without new content they have no revenue and go bankrupt leaving writers without a job
OR
>Studios accept the insane demands, studios cannot afford to stay in business and go bankrupt leaving writers without a job

>Its fully within the studios to give them more money without collapsing anything, they just dont want to.
I don't think you understand my position. I am taking the chaotic neutral approach. Both sides suck and deserve to suffer and I want them to suffer.

>> No.55545938

>>55545808
Do you support truckers striking to remove vaccination mandates?

>> No.55545947

>>55545795
streaming services is the main reason why writers aren't getting paid so idk what you're talking about

>> No.55545978

>>55545526
Yes, they are faggots
Yes, they are greedy faggots
Greedy faggots can be motivated by money to be less of a faggot

>> No.55545983

>>55545922
Nah I understand your position I think you just underestimate just how much money Big Hollywood has access to. These people can fund entire countries.

>> No.55545989

>>55545947
>The existence of streaming services means writers don't get paid
>Therefore if streaming services didn't exist, writers would get paid more (?).

Go ahead and explain that one.

>> No.55546042

Who do I blame for every franchise becoming a Marvel movie? The execs for seeing how much money those movies made and trying to recreate it? Or the writers who put the quirky reddit humor itself into the scripts?

>> No.55546058

>>55545938
entirely gay position to have, specially since it wasn't related to wages, but in a way yeah I'd say I support it, in fact le secret real leftist position is that vaccination is kinda very bad, but you're not ready for that knowledge

>> No.55546059

>>55545922
Or they need to meet demands, audit their expenditure and realize they need better writing and to not rely on CGI to cover bad stories.

>> No.55546088

>>55545922
It's going to be Option A with the caveat that they just AI generate everything going forward since they're the main ones funding this stuff to get rid of all the "artists" to produce endless slop for people to consume.

>> No.55546089

>>55545530
>Execs hate you and want your money.
No, you ascribe too much emotion. They care nothing for the masses. we are just money bags to which they seek to extract as much from.
Does the coal miner care about the minerals they extract? no, they just extract them because it's what gets them money. that is what we are to them. a resource to be mined. emotion doesn't factor into it.

So I'll take the execs over the writers any day of te week. if giving us the entertainment we actually like and enjoy extracts the most resources then that is what the execs will do. whereas the writers have a real tangible idealogical axe to grind with the audiences and seek to deliberately destroy that which they hold dear.
thank god hololive won the culture war it had last year.

>> No.55546104

>>55545844
>Living with one evil is better than living with two.
One of those evils can fuck you straight up the ass and you honestly think AI will write non-woke stories? They will train that shit on the wokest crap imaginable. That being said the AI train is on full force, really no way to stop it now, no winning this battle.

>> No.55546107

>>55546058
antivaxxers outside of RFK Jr. or Jimmy Dore are almost always conservative

>> No.55546113

>>55545983
>I think you just underestimate just how much money Big Hollywood has access to

I think you overestimate. A lot of films are running on wire thin margins and most films are created as investment vehicles for insurance companies, hedgefunds and ultra-high net worth individuals. If studios cannot produce a return, they won't recieve investment. They do not have endless money. Modern film creation is one of the most capital intensive projects in the world and it's also high risk but very high reward.

>> No.55546135

>>55545526
>do you want the strike to fail?
Yes.
>If so, you are de facto supporting the studio execs.
Don't care. The strike can only have two outcomes: studio execs and writers compromise, everything returns to normal. Or the studios tell writers to go fuck themselves, switch to AI, and Hollywood writers are purged. The latter scenario is preferable because it would result in some parasites being removed.

>> No.55546139

>>55545885
then watch capeshit like flash and disney movies like strange world at a theater a multiple times. they flopped but you can help them by doing it. buy more disney marcs. consume all of them. be a consoomer for hollywood. you can help them by doing it. plain and simple.

>> No.55546141

>>55545989
>writers used to get paid for eps1, 3, end of season, etc
>now writers get crunched to write for entire seasons without getting paid due to streaming
>streaming dies and they go back to the old format

>> No.55546151

>>55545854
Both only lead to entertainment going to shit. Let them both burn. The customer is the one who finally needs to win.

>> No.55546154

>>55545877
AI is a tool. A tool that some people who, despite being genuinely creative, might lack the ability to put their ideas into words. You'll still be able to glean some quality out of AI scripts/stories prompted by such people. In the case of woke writers, though, they deliberately produce garbage and revel in the rage that follows. Some would even say there's malice in that. Thus, I think there are significant differences between the two.

>> No.55546182

>>55546058
I was only asking as a litmus test because I know too many people who say that and then go "uhm actually except the strikes by people who i disagree with politically they should be rounded up and killed". Youre alright in my book anon, a genuine man of the people.

>> No.55546187

>>55546141
>>streaming dies and they go back to the old format

Completely assumptive with no basis in reality. Why would things just suddenly go back to how they were?

>> No.55546256

>>55545854
I'll takes the side that gets to sit by and eat popcorn while shit goes down

>> No.55546268

>>55546107
tis true, mainly because leftist get ridiculed by other idiots, but taking the vaxx was also part of capitalist state control over the body and to get you working as fast as possible, in short, very actual bad precedent which libs and most leftist ate up without a critical thought in their minds

>> No.55546289

>>55545734
have you even heard stories of how shit movies get made? Those overpaid executives are literally the most cancerous part of the entire industry.
It's literally executive meddling that creates the dumbfuck results hiring and firing writer after writer and frankensteining scripts together and meddling in every creative decision in order to get credit for it. The only reason big name directors make good movies is because they have enough clout to tell the executives to fuck off.

>> No.55546333

>>55546187
because then the old labor laws apply when airing on a non-streaming site? What are you even trying to get at here

>> No.55546339

>>55539539
Doesn't Vox realize he is essentailly a scab and should cease all activities in support of voice actors? Also, good luck stopping technological process and AI, fucking moronic luddite,

>> No.55546374

>>55546139
funny enough I haven't watch a recent movie in years, I never watch series, all I consoom is literally youtube videos and chuubas, and even still writers are not the ones getting rich from that, as evidenced by the strikes, it's all for the execs baby

>> No.55546397

>>55546154
>AI is a tool. A tool that some people who, despite being genuinely creative, might lack the ability to put their ideas into words.
Like the creative producers who already control Hollywood?

>> No.55546401

>>55539539
>you chinks and sea fujoshitters must pay attention to hollywood and fight for them

kek
this is why niji en is collapsing. very typical amerimutt woke twatter trash. hes a britfag tho

>> No.55546488

>>55546182
there's something to be said about reactionary workers but at this point in history I think we are way past those worries, as long as the big men in suit and yatches get fucked and their will bent by people who are less wealthy than them then I support it

>> No.55546493

>>55546289
Executives are psychopathically wired to only care about dollars. The actual cancer are leftoid writers/actors who want to subvert everything in current society and turn it into a 3rd world pozzhole of abject failure

>> No.55546501

>>55546397
Just say Jews

>> No.55546559

>>55546501
>Only jews can be greedy
ogey rrat

>> No.55546573

>>55546289
>Those overpaid executives are literally the most cancerous part of the entire industry.
Execs get paid what their projects produce. If they produce lots, they get lots. It's not like if the execs gets 1% of total profit from a project that means the writers get less. The writers get whatever they agreed to.

>It's literally executive meddling that creates the dumbfuck results hiring and firing writer after writer and frankensteining scripts together and meddling in every creative decision in order to get credit for it.
I would say that's the fault of activist hiring and talentless hacks producing nothing of value. Not exec meddling.

> The only reason big name directors make good movies is because they have enough clout to tell the executives to fuck off.
Yeah like James Cameron...oh wait, avatar still sucks.

>>55546333
You fully believe that studios will just kowtow back to the old system and not weasel themselves out of it knowing what they have lost? You're very optimistic.

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>a bunch of marxist Hollywood CEOs
>a bunch of commie writers

>> No.55546603

>>55546339
This, 100%. If you're not on the AI and automation train you are anti-progressive.

>> No.55546638

>>55546339
Being a luddite is cool now, for individuals who live vicariously through technological devices.

>> No.55546647

>>55546559
Idk I thought jews were the worst thing ever

>> No.55546683

>>55546559
When speaking about Hollywood, it's completely factual and correct to say Jews.

>> No.55546708

>>55546603
he's not advocating to stop ai development though? Where are you getting this from

>> No.55546717
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America should burn to the ground.

>> No.55546766

>>55546683
all jews are bad no exception

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After reading the political posts in this thread I realized that I should stop worrying about (You)r opinion regarding VTubers.

>> No.55546784

>>55546401
>this is why niji en is collapsing
the same reason why Niji collapses is the same reason this strikes are happening retard, management in both industries treat the actual creative workers like shit and something they can easily dispose of, in fact Nijisanji's whole model is built around treating their chuubas as disposable, of course a holodrone like you can't catch the nuances now go back to posting bau bau in your dogs' thread, retard

>> No.55546786

>>55546717
Waiting for some nation to be brave enough to give me that Arizona/Nevada beach front property

>> No.55546797

>>55546104
AI reject wokness and liberalism because it is inherently illogical, internally contradictory, and dependent on emotions.
Sure, they can be trained but that results in things like refusing to defuse an atomic bomb by saying nigger, it is an uphill battle as liberalism is eternally fighting against any system of oppression, ie any functional system. Once the AI have been trained to be woke enough to start associating the power dynamic of oppression to invalid AI from writing any script that has anything to do with any human you will see them rapidly backtrack.

>> No.55546823

>>55546182
Yeah, those people are 100% correct you retard. You don't give any more control to leftoid union bosses who will actively discriminate and abuse the white working class, as they already do in other roles. And the etertainment industry should crash and burn. Whole Foods and Amazon flood their workplaces with diversity to prevent blue collar unions for a reason.

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>>55544677
>make them Neuro-sama copies
Vedal's cloned other vtubers before. Usually as a one off joke.
Camila
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45UdSL977KU
filian
https://youtu.be/JOJn6Oenz1Y?t=148

>> No.55546855

>>55546766
Except my Great-Great grandfather who left Germany in the 1850s, went to France, fucked a french lady and they went to England. Had 2 kids, one went to America and the other went to Australia.

I'm descendent of the Australian one.

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>>55546797
>AI reject wokness and liberalism

>> No.55546927

>>55546573
>I would say that's the fault of activist hiring and talentless hacks producing nothing of value. Not exec meddling.
The execs have the final say on everything because they decide if the movie gets to see daylight. The "activist hiring and talentless hacks" need their approval to be there in the first place.

>> No.55546929

>>55544677
how is that any different then every indie copying the veibae voice and getting the same bimbo model

>> No.55546969

>>55546797
>AI reject wokness and liberalism
Literally write any racist or right wing thing into ChatGPT and it’ll reject it unless you tinker with it

>> No.55547021

>>55546708
One of the WAG complaints is their jobs are being replaced by AI because its cheaper

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>>55546797
>reject established artistic standards
>embrace mediocre machine interpretations
yikes and cringe

>> No.55547085

>>55546784
>nijiseafujotrannies are actually mad at the dogs
holy shit

>> No.55547088

>>55539539
Note rail workers are striking but of course a bootlicking faggot like Vox won't have their back. He cares about Hollywood scum instead.

>> No.55547124

>>55547021
what does this have to do with ai development?

>> No.55547130

>>55546823
>wanting to kill people responsible for producing and delivering food to urban populaces
Yep, thats a reliable commie take if Ive ever seen one.

>> No.55547160

>>55546927
>The execs have the final say on everything because they decide if the movie gets to see daylight. The "activist hiring and talentless hacks" need their approval to be there in the first place.

This isn't necessarily the case anymore with modern politics. If you fire your trans black lesbian non-binary fat whore writer who you proudly toted beforehand as part of your diversity hires, you are now completely opened up to a law suit for discrimination and public backlash. This is the massive problem with hiring activists and for diversity rather than talent. Disney, Amazon, Universal, etc. They can all eat the shit they served to themselves on a silver platter; the writers and execs.

>> No.55547177

>>55539539
> pushing American politics
> to a mainly Chinese/SEA audience
no wonder all his paypigs left him

>> No.55547179

>>55546797
My friend do you know how current AI is trained? lol. Nothing about AI is logical at it's current state, it only infers from existing things, doesn't think.

>> No.55547223

>>55547050
Established "artistic standards" = White people are evil.
Yeah, I think I'll reject that.

>> No.55547236

>>55546969
and it is comedically easy to get it to accept it because the AI is incapable of articulating why it is wrong

>> No.55547274

>>55547124
Are you mentally disabled? Genuine question

>> No.55547284

>>55547130
You are too stupid for this conversation anon, go back.

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>>55547050
Mediocre machine interpretation would be a vast improvement over established artistic standards

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>>55547050
>established artistic standards

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>open thread
>immediate /pol/faggotry
>and people doing the equivalent of cheering on Riku Tazumi funding his yacht by only giving 2% to his talents
Jesus fuck you all might as well ask StableDiffusion to paint a 3d cock for you to fellate on
But this >>55539539 just feels weird to do.
His CEO would do the same to him which makes this feel internally tone deaf.

>> No.55547309

>>55547179
As a consequence the accuracy of these AIs to do math problems has dropped from the 80s into the single digits.

>> No.55547314

>>55547085
I don't even watch niji, but the dogs, cute as they are, are literal zogslop content, real zoomer "mmm ice cream so good gang gang" type shit

>> No.55547327

>>55547284
Lmao cry harder

>> No.55547374

>>55539539
Reminds me of the true adage of wokeness that someone on youtube said
> it's not get woke --> go broke
> it's go broke --> get woke --> ultimately croak
Looks like he's feeling the heat from the missing sister money.

>> No.55547391 [DELETED] 

>>55547304
>opens thread on a hot-button poltical topic
>AYY YO WHAT THE NIGGER LOVING FUCK?! POLITICS I DON'T LIKE!?

Why do you sabotage yourself, anon?

>> No.55547397

>>55539539
why do his fans have to save garbagewood anyway when most of them arent amerimutts?
they just should support their domestic movies instead of consuming trashwood.

>> No.55547405

>>55547223
>scripts, storyboard panels, camera work, sound are all irrelevant
also why does it matter when white people shouldnt watch vtubers? Are you outing yourself as a race traitor?

>> No.55547429

>>55547391
/pol/, in MY political threads?

>> No.55547461

>>55544699
Anon, they create their own controversies

>> No.55547469

>>55547285
it has to be also an audience thing too no? like why do they so readily devour the same retarded reboots and franchises? my theory is that is all because they pour tons of money on advertising

>> No.55547471

>>55547429
This is a drama board anyways.

>> No.55547476

>>55547429
Racists, on MY 4chan?

>> No.55547489

>>55547405
>white people shouldnt watch vtubers
explain

>> No.55547509

I’m not going to support Hollywood in any way in this. Writers or companies. I’m instead going to make a pepperoni sandwich, and play a battle network game.

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>hard working

>> No.55547576

>>55539539
Its just a natural selection. Japan already ditched Hollywood. Other asian countries will also gradually follow it at least.

Why are Hollywood films falling out of favor in Japan?
https://www.japantimes.co.jp/culture/2023/06/23/films/hollywood-films-decline-japan/

>> No.55547579

>>55539539
>The day /pol/ sided with the Jews
Tip top kek!

>> No.55547606

>>55547050
What the fuck are the "established artistic standards"? If they are the basis for shit like the snow white and little mermaid live remakes, phase 4 marvel and shows like rings of power and the witcher, then those "standards" should be replaced. Even if it meant using a machine to do so.

>> No.55547611

>>55547489
it's by japan for japan, what's there to explain? Every iteration of it outside of the culture/country is a bastardization

>> No.55547615

>>55539741
My nigga, the anime industry - barring isekaislop - is the light that shines on the fact that good shows don't NEED "writers" in the western sense, a.k.a a committee of faggots chasing money first and foremost.
It needs the vision of one person (author/mangaka/novelist, whatever it is you're adapting) and maybe one or two people that can TRANSLATE that into a screenplay - i.e. a screenwriter or two MAX.
The easiest way for them to realize it is this strike. They stop cooperating, get someone that doesn't care about money and just wants to see a good source material brought to the screen.
It's gonna be glorious.

>> No.55547619

I hope this strike goes on forever.

>> No.55547622

>Criticize Nijisanji for 2% merch
>shits on writers, producers and actors for wanting more pay
what the fuck is vt problem?

>> No.55547624

>>55544563
Given AI shills steal everything and create nothing, it's entirely on brand for them.

>> No.55547674

>>55539986
This argument doesn't work when even AI writes better stories than modern Hollywood writers.

>> No.55547716

>>55539539
>Hard-working actors and writers in America

>> No.55547758

>>55547611
>people outside of the intended audience are not allowed to access a product or service

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>>55547622
Don't think about it anon
We're supposed to just scream woke or liberal at everything we dislike like a bunch of good natured /pol/bots

>> No.55547800

>>55547611
Oh sorry, I dont agree with racial segregation, thats retarded.

>> No.55547811

>>55539539
What a moron. These SAG people would gladly crucify Vox "rape/bdsm asmr" Akuma to their altar of faggotry.

>> No.55547828

>>55547622
>People who deserve to get paid more should get paid more. People who don't deserve to get paid more, should not get paid more.

What about this confuses you my sweet little retard?

>> No.55547855

>>55539619
To spite them and talk shit about on social media?

>> No.55547863

>>55547622
it's /vt/ sister, we hate nijisanji and are filled with chuds, next question?

>> No.55547864

>>55539539
Sorry, I only watch anime and vtubers.

>> No.55547887

>>55547863
maybe youre filled with chuds, faggot

>> No.55547893

>>55547622
vtubers have done a lot more for us then actors. everyone agrees that hollywood has gone down hill over the past 10 years so its hard to feel bad for them

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>>55547758
>>55547800
>thread is hyper nationalist
>suddenly reels back when vtubers and japanese culture comes into play

>> No.55547927

>>55539986
lol if they can't keep up with AI then they deserve to be replaced. I don't care if creative media is made by human or machine. I've seen artwork made by AI already that has more soul in it than most artists.

>> No.55547926

Western vtuber shouldn't exist

>> No.55547933

>>55547828
>some workers deserve better than other workers that I don't like because I think they already make a lot

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>Thinking that it matters who wins the strike

lol, just let them destroy each other.

>> No.55547955

>>55547911
>hyper nationalist
where?

>> No.55547956

>>55547622
Vtubers aren't responsible for things like capeshit or the Transformers franchise

>> No.55547979

>>55547911
Fucking newfag. If you had been here long enough you'd know that the japs are honourary aryans.

>> No.55547984

>>55547622
I'm pretty sure if there was a button that wiped out all of Hollywood, most people here would press it.

>> No.55547985

>>55539539
Imagine wasting a second to support people who hate you and want to corrupt and poison everything you enjoy against you.
I hope many of these writers lose their homes and starbe on the streets.

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>>55547887
good one, retard, maybe you should go write for Hollywood

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>>55547933
Yes...?

>> No.55548025

>>55539539
If you're work was so shitty that it could be replaced by work done by a generative AI without anyone blinking an eye, then you didn't deserve your fucking job in the first place you talentless fucking leech.

>> No.55548042

>>55547956
there's nothing wrong with either of those things though. People showed up, paid a ticket, watched, and enjoyed them. Are you just regurgitating the same crap from another board

>> No.55548061

>>55539539
im surprised no vox anti tried to edit this imagine to be about taiwan

>> No.55548102

>>55540287
>>55540328
If you aren't conservative as things are right now there's something wrong with your brain.

>> No.55548146

>>55548102
I'm not conservative. I'm progressive concerning the removal of subversive commies from my country

>> No.55548149

>>55539539
In American lol
CHINA

>> No.55548164

>>55548102
>if you don't think the same way CEOs and execs think there's something wrong with your brain
Muricans are doomed, just keep giving all your money to chuubas at least you'll make them happy before the inevitable civil war

>> No.55548169

Average writer pleb and actor that isn't some A lister makes pretty shit pay and has to shit out some garbage asap. It's really no surprise the quality is awful. But even if you don't give a shit about the workers, the strikers winning will crater that slop factory that is the streaming industry. You'll either get an increase in quality or a crash, either way you'll get less trash. Really myopic contrarianism to smugly be against this. That said, Vox is dumb as hell and I will not be touching Niji shit regardless, but try to have a fucking political foundation that isn't just mindlessly doing the opposite of people who suck. You've got a fucking brain, try and use it.

>> No.55548175

>>55548149
what? he's british actually

>> No.55548217

>>55548164
CEOs and execs are not conservative. Unless you just think "think i dont like = conservative" I guess

>> No.55548224

>>55539741
This is like watching enemies eat each other. Seems to be happening a lot these days. Writers and actors not only produce garbage but have been increasingly antagonistic to those who reject their garbage. Now they expect unchallenged outside support? For the sake of money? Nah, the goons can fight their masters alone. Don't care what happens because attitudes and product aren't gonna change out of this. Hollywood is an industry I don't need.

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>one side are jews
>the other side are entitled no-talent drones who have done them bidding for half a century
oh geez, that's a tough one

>> No.55548239

>>55547956
Who chose to produce all the capeshit and troonsformers?

>> No.55548238

>>55539986
But anon we're contrarian NPCs here, so we all hate the [popular thing]

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>>55547979
this meme will never stick as long as you keep rejecting japanese culture, sorry. You're picking things you like out without knowing the reason and origin behind it

>> No.55548307

Hahahah, look all of t this SJW writer defender lookin bitch,

Worker my ass

>> No.55548322

>>55548164
The CEOs and execs pushing fag month and black history month and anti-white propaganda and donating millions to far left progressive political candidates?

>> No.55548332

>>55548239
Kikes

>> No.55548384

>>55548322
they donate to both parties retard, as they've always done, also if they are political candidates they are in no way shape or form far left

>> No.55548425

>>55548217
Maybe if your view of politics is just goofy cultural faggotry that's true. I suppose I can't expect Americans to understand economics and its relation to politics. Trickle down, tax breaks for the top, and worshipping the """job creators""" sure as hell is not a liberal political core.

>> No.55548436 [DELETED] 

>>55548322
Anybody who isn’t a white, heterosexual, straight, masculine, fit, Christian, nationalist, conservative male deserves to be gassed

>> No.55548507

>>55548425
Almost every single top economist right now is not a conservative. Fractional banking is a fundamentally anti-conservative mindset. You just hate them because you think money=conservative

>> No.55548595

>>55548384
Oh, sorry, it's the "moderate left" that wants to chemically castrate children. Thanks for the correction.

>> No.55548670

>>55548507
Economists would be talking about wealth redistribution if they were leftists. Those WEF fuckers are quite a ways away from that, in fact they're more about establishing a permanent underclass, as has been the American and global project for decades.

>> No.55548736

>>55548384
Both parties are gay ass lefties

>> No.55548740

>>55548670
>only communist leftists and conservatives exist
Never speak to me again about not knowing how politics work

>> No.55548762

>>55548169
both sides can fight for all I care. The demands from the strikeniggers don't really benefit me and even if they win at the end, this doesn't benefit me nor a positive assurance regarding the quality of cultural output major studios will produce in the future. Both sides want me gone. Why would I support this totally grassroots movement with the agenda to regulate AI technology. Sounds pretty suspicious to me. Definitely not a trojan horse

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>>55548247
>I am very smart
>unlike you
>who is not very smart
>i can say this
>becasue
>i am very samrt
>yes
>you dont like thing you like
>because you'r not samrt
>わたしはとても 頭いいですよにゃぁぁぁぁぁぁ
>ねこだよにゃぁぁぁぁぁ

Are you braindead? Or just the world's biggest Dunning-Krueger?

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Mostly I'm just surprised that this shit is considered SJW-tier here on 4chan.
>anti-corps
>anti-AI-writing-scripts
>they're writers, not actors. Writers are not known for being richfags in Hollywood

>> No.55548917

>>55548797
hollywood writers have been hated on /tv/ for a long time. Been reading tons of shit from /tv/ that failed to pass the shit test because the writer's guild cabal rejected their scripts. These gatekeepers deserve the shit they get

>> No.55548932

>>55548384
>also if they are political candidates they are in no way shape or form far left
No true scotsman.

>> No.55548947

>>55539539
Hollywood and the entire US media industry ranging from it to Netflix to Disney to everything /co/ is utterly rotten to the core and has no value whatsoever. Those writers are just nepotism hires drawn from the same incestuous woke circle and they have no talent, skill, imagination or anything of value. The same applies to /co/ media as well. Nothing is sadder than US comics and modern cartoons with their shit art, political propaganda and ugliness.

I haven't watched or interacted with any Western media for almost two decades at this point, and I don't care about it. The only thing that can save it is to have the whole apparatus implode and scatter to the four winds and having it all start from a zero, but this time letting people draw and write whatever they want and achieving objective standards. But nothing of the sort will happen, all the US will ever create are just the carcasses of capeshit being propped up and perverse "reimaginings" of European fairy tales and history.

I don't understand why Vox is doing that because one of the reasons why we are here is because we are completely outside the US media sphere in a fundamental sense. Vtubing is a thing precisely because we don't watch or follow US media, same as with anime. Nobody outside the US (I'm a euro) gives the slightest shit about their media anymore and for good reason. Let it burn.

>> No.55548949

>>55548797
>>55548797
This place is full of /tv/fags who
>only hate-watch the most mainstream shit, ala Marvelshit
>THEN complain about them being poorly written
>at the same time, not watching any actual quality TV shows with good writing
So they think this is just Marvelshit writers striking, and not, you know, actual writer from actual good shows who don't make a lot of money.

>> No.55548989

>>55548949
Please provide examples of shows with good writing made in the last few years

>> No.55549005

>>55548949
>quality TV shows with good writing
Now comes the part where you list them. Next comes the part where we laugh at you.

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>>55548949
>good shows
like what, SNL?

>> No.55549147

>>55549007
did you know that documentaries, animal shows like shark week, and commercials also have writers

>> No.55549209

>>55548989
>>55549005
>>55549007
ogey, I'll give it a shot
>The Bear
>The Righteous Gemstones
>Perry Mason
>Barry
>Succession
>The White Lotus
>Station Eleven
>Daisy Jones & the Six
>Mrs. Davis
It's like /a/: If you hate shounenshit abnd CGDCT, don't watch them. Every season there are loads of other good shit.

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>>55549147
thank god for the Writer's strike, I wouldn't be seeing them in the near future

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I thought Severance was good

>> No.55549258

>>55549147
>factual documentaries with very limited scopes for creative expression are better and more interesting than shows with full creative expression

This only displays that these writers are complete hacks who can't produce anything of quality without training wheels.

>> No.55549270

>>55549209
Don't start your list with a joke if you want to be taken seriously.

>> No.55549282

>its been over 15 years since The Wire and Sopranos ended

>> No.55549296

>>55549209
>this is your brain in being a woman

>> No.55549299

>>55549270
I only watch Vtubers play vidya. I don't play them

>> No.55549316

>>55549209
Thanks, I'll give these a shot.

>> No.55549319

>>55549211
>same snl image being spammed in every writer's strike discussion
those companies employing ai early I guess

>> No.55549321

>>55549296
If you equate "watching Marvelshit" with being a man, then sure.

>> No.55549340

>>55548797
>SJW-tier
>Hollywood writers
The dots connect themselves, really. Money clearly doesn't stop people from being SJW mouthpieces.

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>>55549321
>he doesnt like soapslop, he must be a marvelfag!

>> No.55549509

>>55541942
Literally all of this is wrong lol

>> No.55549583

>Complain
>Complain some more
>Complain about both sides
>Complain again
For people that don’t care you seem to have a lot of opinions. We watch anime girls play video games badly and most of the time you aren’t even paying attention to the game let’s not pretend this is genre defining entertainment. Nobody really has a leg to stand on

>> No.55549637

>>55549583
>projecting

>> No.55549693

>>55549583
this is a litmus test to see who actually watches vtubers and who's appropriating it to push some offtopic /pol/shit agenda

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I too, support the executives of Hollywood and relegating the legwork of entertainment to AI

>> No.55549777

>>55549693
Did you pass?

>> No.55549875

why do I have to care when I only watch anime and vtubers? Is vox even an American?

>> No.55549941

im sure nobody gives a shit about hollywood anymore. media reports it just because its the most mainstream stuff. if people cared about writers wage and shit, the american comic and cartoon industries wouldve been saved despite the surge of woke comics/shows but they just went down the toilets without anyone noticing. i was observing them for a long time. they were/are screeching like this on twatter all the time but nobody supported it. nothing happened.

>> No.55550350

>>55549583
>complain about the people complaining

The perch you have on that fence won't save you from getting thrown in the mass grave with the rest of them.

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>>55549875
>>55549941
>why do I have to care when I only watch anime and vtubers?
>im sure nobody gives a shit about hollywood anymore
This is exactly my position as well. I got filtered out of it all and have no interest in it or anything related to it. Anime, manga, vtubers, even K-stuff is now the dominant cultural force and the only things worth interacting with. Western (specifically American to be precise) media is utterly dead and these are just the twitchings of a dead dinosaur. And nobody cares because there's no reason to care.

Vtubing is a part of the new paradigm which includes anime, manga etc. and none of it has anything to do with the US media machine. That's why it's worth watching. It's fun and entertaining. I unironically look down on people who consume Western media.

>> No.55550430

>>55539539
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1pbMjwvFu8
Unironically, all I had to watch. Will watch others videos later

>> No.55550438

>>55549941
Doesnt seem to be a Hollywood thing, more of a generational American thing. Trying to get any young people even remotely care about something is impossible, their attention spans are too short.

>> No.55550469

>>55548384
not enough for you at least. You despise industry, you despise business, you despise the "haves" and want to drag them down. You despise humans. This is the leftist doctrine.

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>woke in the title
>clickbait thumbnail

>> No.55551123

>>55544642
>it was funnier than modern shit
>haha the funny man said troon quality joke haha
this board truly has the sense of humour of a 2000s 12 year old scene kid.
The only difference is that instead of living in some suburbus in Virginia, you're just a brown muskrat in Indonesia.

>> No.55551415

>>55544677
thankfully my oshi is in a corpo that actually cares about them kek

>> No.55551462

>>55545346
Because you support unions and the commie shit which made the industry what it is today.
McCarthy was right which is why they had him disgraced and then killed.

>> No.55551482

>>55544677
this has always been the dream you fucking newfag

>> No.55551549

>>55545564
> at the end of the day they are the ones who truly make stuff
Then I don't think you've been seeing anything that they've made in the past half decade.
They are just as much part of the problem as the higher ups.

>> No.55551583

>>55542214
Based

>> No.55551639

>>55545526
> do you want the strike to fail?
I know it will, because thanks to wfh execs can just import writers from other continents and countries and pay them half of what they're paying the existing folks.
There's never been a shortage of people wanting to be writers. This will just get rid of the commie scum that's been destroying every good story for the past decade.
Who knows, with a fresh mindset we might actually get some good stories for once.

>> No.55551725

>>55545854
I can wish ruin to both of them, eat popcorn and watch my oshi without any issue anon.

>> No.55551872

>>55547622
Despite how much they're hated, Niji VTubers still fill a niche, and anons understand that.
Retarded union writers? They don't affect anything in /vt/ and in fact actively chased a lot of anons out of old hobbies because of their political bullshit.
Vox also doesn't realize that he's pushing American politics while his audience has maybe 10% of Americans, those being the country's worst communities.

>> No.55551938

>>55547911
it's almost as if normal, functional people have nuanced opinions on various policies and aren't just part of "one side" or the other.

>> No.55551954

>>55539539
i honestly don't understand what him or anyone here has to say about something as fucking random as the WGA strike

like honestly who gives a fuck, this is /vt/, not /news/ or /tv/

>> No.55552039

>>55548169
Anon most people who hate both sides are people who have LONG abandoned hollywood.
Which board do you think you're in? Why do you think people started watching VTubers in the first place?
None of the anons here have ANY attachment to anything hollywood shits out anymore, hence the "i don't give a shit, they both can burn" attitude.

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>>55539539
>>55547622
Cool, can we expect niji livers strike in 2 weeks then?

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