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How come Mori's hyped up collabs with artists who are way more famous than herself keep flopping?

>> No.55237411

tried to leech but she couldn't. jk.. because people realize she isn't good at all.

>> No.55237471

let's be real, hololive is more famousthan these people

>> No.55237485

If you consider that a flop, oof I'd consider suicide if I were you.

>> No.55237515

>>55237250
six feet under sounds like shit even for mori who the fuck greenlit that release

>> No.55237517

>>55237250
because the songs are bad, and she killed her fanbase.

>> No.55237640

>>55237485
For someone like mori with a UMG record deal, it is a flop by al. metrics

>> No.55237682

>>55237250
Because she keeps over hyping them "OMG GUYS IS MY DREAM COLLAB YOU WILL GO INSANE" only for it to be an artists no one in the vtubing circle cares about, go fucking get that Ado Collab already

>> No.55237744

>>55237250
No one cares about the japanese music industry

>> No.55237788

>>55237682
The Ado collab won't be out until next April as part of her 4th birthday celebration.

>> No.55237805

>>55237640
clearly you dont know anything about UMG anon

>> No.55237891

>>55237250
>How come Mori's hyped up collabs with artists who are way more famous than herself keep flopping?
>230k views in 10 hours.
Why are lizard brains always like this?

>> No.55237901

>>55237682
>Nobody in the vtubing era

Can't tell if twitch fag or niji fag, either one is shit

>> No.55237907

>>55237250
You can polish a nickel but that isn't going to make it gold.

>> No.55238072

>>55237250
She will have a Fortnite skin by the end of the year.
Mark my words.

>> No.55238114

>>55237891
This is what numberfagging do to people's brain.
Amazing that certain math made people retarded

>> No.55238216
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>>55237250
Who the fuck are those two?

>> No.55238258

>>55237891
Nerissa's cover got 1M after just 2 days, though?

>> No.55238314

>>55238258
Good for her.

>> No.55238415

I don't want to come out as an anti and am a big fan of Reol, but the Collab song was frankly shit.
Both can do much better, this eas extremely underwhelming

>> No.55238490

>>55238415
All of Mori's music is terrible lets be honest

>> No.55238534

>>55238415
>shit
>literal electronic metal with Mori doing actual growl/screamo in the backing vocals of the chorus
shit taste

>> No.55238560

>another Astroturf thread

>> No.55238673

>>55237250
Let's see your uploads since clearly you can do better than her, yea?

>> No.55238718

>>55238490
I wouldn't go that far, there are some okay ones , but this wasn't one of those.
Doesn't help that I have extremely high expectations when Reol is involved and she always manages to break my expectations, except this time.

>>55238534
I didn't enjoy it, it was just so underwhelming

>> No.55238722

>>55237471
Lmao, yeah, that's why everyone and their sister has covered unravel.

>> No.55238747

>>55238490
>t. albumoftheyear
lol.

>> No.55238749

Anything that has Mori, Ame or Kronii is an automatic skip.

>> No.55238820

>>55238749
cope

>> No.55239000

What's not pictured: Suisei's latest releases having the same type of growth.

>but muh Nerissa
Wait until the honeymoon period is done

>> No.55239038

>>55237682
>He doesn't listen to REOL
Are you even a weeb? Why are you here?

>> No.55239131

>>55238820
Having trouble reading?, I said it's an automatic skip, not an automatic "cope".

>> No.55239157

>>55238749
It's funny how mindbroken those 3 (and Bae to a lesser extent) made some anons on this board

>> No.55239173

Alright, which one of you shit skin faggots are uppity again

Jesus christ Mori hate brings out the absolute worst people

>Doxx thread already up

>> No.55239190

Maybe my taste in music is shit but both of these songs sound terrible.

>> No.55239222

>>55239131
cope.
you have shit taste

>> No.55239221

>>55238258
this thread isn't about Narissa, please keep up.

>> No.55239254

>>55238258
Debut buff. Mori's RIP got more views in less time for the same reason.

>> No.55239281

>>55239157
You don't need to be mindbroken to avoid what you don't like.

>> No.55239305

>>55239038
Weebs listening to old utaite reol. Nobody gives a fuck about kpop reject one.

>> No.55239476 [DELETED] 

>>55237250
Because being a cover vtuber does not make you a musical genius. Cuckbeats are goyslop apologists for her japrap. Noone outside of her cuckboxlikes her music. Its fakehype inflated by arrogant simpposting.

>> No.55239504

>>55238718
>High expectations
>Reols last song only got 1m view in 2 weeks

Rumao

>> No.55239724

>>55239254
I think Nerissa's cover reached 1M faster than RIP but that doesn't mean that it'll get more views than RIP in the long run. Many holo songs have reach 1M faster but it's hard to beat 37M views

>> No.55239815

>>55239504
You mean Edge/Kissaki?
I liked it even though it came kinda out of nowhere. I don't give a shit about muh numbers because by that logic some nigger mumblerap is better than either Mori or Reol.

>> No.55239827
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I fucking hate how this board is infested with normie Twitch zoomers that aren't even weeb enough to know who Reol is. Literally baby's first utaite. You can't possibly have missed her if you've ever listened to even a single Vocaloid cover in your life. Just pull the plug out for this terminally ill board. It's just /trash/ 2.0 at this point.

>> No.55239882

>>55239815
>immediate seethe
Ah yes, continue to cope.

>> No.55239957

>>55239827
Well to be fair, even at my most weaabo phase I didn't know shit about Japanese music outside of anime OPs.

>> No.55239968

>>55238258
but it was 4 days it's barely over 1m now.

>> No.55239971

>>55239827
>Literally baby's first utaite.
Get with the times old fart. That's lehecking usewa girl now.

>> No.55240121

>>55239827
Mori's antis are zoomer eunuchs
that's not new information, anon

>> No.55240340

>>55237517
The songs are fine

>> No.55240510

>>55239827
It's funny they call Mori a "fake weeb", when they themselves are the fakest weebs around.

She literally went to Japan to see a niche of a niche music scene.

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>>55237411
Learn how to speak proper English before posting here

>> No.55240555

>>55237250
The fuck you talking about? That's only a bit slower growth than Suisei's recent originals and she isn't forced to release 3 MVs in 3 weeks and is able to spread them out for better growth. Youtube changes last summer fucked all vtuber music pretty hard.

>> No.55240573

There was a full week of cuckbeats creaming themselves to the numbers for the One Piece song on the One Piece channel but now numbers don’t matter.

>> No.55240604

>>55237250
That first thumbnail is fucking hysterical

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>>55238258
You really want to play this game?

>> No.55241053

>>55240510
Antis are opposites to those they hate, it's bizzare and weird the amount of loop holes and twist they do to justify their actions.

They'd swat her if they could.

>> No.55241088

>>55240573
>he's still crying that "irrelevant" Mori scored an One Piece collab
oh nyo

>> No.55241175

>>55238258
>cover uploaded 4 days ago
>nerissa just tweeted 6 hours ago hitting 1m
>drooling retard bitch esl
>uhhhhhh 2 days ago

>> No.55241551

>Mori struggles to get more views
>Irys struggles even more
>Azki can't even hit 500k views in her MV's
>Suisei almost retired before reaching her popularity

Every other music related vtuber suffers/suffered the same "problem", it's not a huge deal.

>> No.55241607

>>55237682
Ado is suisei and she doesn't like working with vtubers in her IRL works

>> No.55241666

>>55241607
>Ado is suisei
Is this just a rrat or is this real?

>> No.55242335

>>55241666
It's a super dumb rrat

>> No.55243793

She should do a collab with Nanahira

>> No.55244546

>>55238722
A viral song doesn't make it's creator famous. Gigaweebs can seethe but the casual western holoenjoyer audiences do not know these names

>> No.55244668

>>55237250
Because she’s only popular to JPs, we can understand her and know how cringe she is.
>Kari kakoi!

>> No.55244901

>>55244668
>Doesn't know about the "We're from 4chan" letter, which 5ch laughed hard at.

>> No.55245153

>>55244546
Who do you think "casual western holoenjoyers" are? They're gigaweebs.

>> No.55245698

>>55237250
Because Mori can't fucking sing. The only reason she's getting this shit is because she was part of the Initial myth hype which somehow deluded people into thinking she's good.

>> No.55245753

>>55245698
Are you from 2020?

>> No.55248029

>>55244546
You can't put casual and holoenjoyer in the same phrase.

>> No.55248114

>>55237250
It's a good Reol song that got too cluttered by adding Mori to the mix.

>> No.55248886

BECAUSE SHE RELEASES TOO MUCH MUSIC TOO QUICKLY. NORMAL ARTISTS WAIT LIKE 3 YEARS BETWEEN ALBUMS. MORI releases like 3 albums a year and a new song every month. It's easier for her because all she has to do is write the lyrics. She gets other people to do the hard part, write and record the music and figure out the melody.

>> No.55249027

>>55237250
Unironic burn out. She releasing too much music, listeners can’t catch a break. I feel like I don’t even know half of her songs now.

>> No.55249068

>>55237250
retard

>> No.55249121

She simply does not make good music

>> No.55249317

>>55249121
I bet that's not what your oshi thinks.

>> No.55249436

>>55238490
based

>> No.55249488

>>55248886
>>55249027
Burnout was a concern, that's why she wanted to space out releases. Or at least not do another full album right after the last. She's also slowly getting more control over production choices but deadlines means sometimes she does have to settle. She's not totally satisfied with every end result, even though those she's working with tell her it's fine, but she's her own biggest critic and few would know there was any 'issue' if she didn't point it out herself. Her work at UMG has been interesting to follow.

>> No.55250094

>>55237250
People who watch Mori don't give a fuck about Reol and TK, and people who watch Reol and TK don't give a fuck about Mori. Both sides debuff each other.

>>55237485
>If you consider that a flop, oof I'd consider suicide if I were you.
They're flops compared to other Holo music. Imagine collabing with some famous artist and your MV gets mogged by random Holos singing random covers that aren't even supposed to be a big deal.

>> No.55250141

Mori was my first Oshi. I was really hooked with the RIP song, I was like woah what the heck is this. She streams? As I got into the bigger vtuber space I got distracted from her (I bought the anti bait too), but I'm a backbeat once again. There is far too much music. I haven't had the capacity to keep up with it since Unalive. I don't even think I've heard the first album properly.

>> No.55250250

>>55239281
>T. Mind broken anon

>> No.55250566

>>55250094
>They're flops compared to other Holo music.
They're really not new algo makes it way harder for originals to thrive than covers, you niggas need to actually to look around and see how holo originals are doing before making these retarded comps and trying call shit a ""flop"" because it didn't 1 mill day

>> No.55250576

to put it simply universals marketing team is shambolic and wants to pump her for every release possible and clean out megafans instead of building her up into a long term act

only conclusion i can draw from the release schedule. at least she's getting to collab with so many people she loves

>> No.55250892

>>55238258
>Nerissa's cover got 1M after just 2 days
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWU3o_kDixc
Not only is this just lie (took 4 days)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92tvv7PgKeI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmZRrKEqG2M
But Nerissa's debut cover is growing at a slower rate than Mori's 10th and 12th covers did lol

>> No.55251145

>>55250892
You forgot Roki
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nI1CDsNZI0

>> No.55251243

>>55237250
Japanese music just isn't popular in the west. These collabs mean nothing outside of Japan. Its the same reason Irys relatively flopped.

>> No.55251361
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All of HoloEN (before Advent) gets 600k in a month despite having a live show. I think Mori is doing fine by herself.

>> No.55251448

>>55237250
Because the culture that Hololive EN has attracted is degenerative. It's dumb westoids that want CGDCT but demand idolshit. They get idolshit and then throw a tantrum that nobody read their mind and corrected their mistaken demands. This creates a volatile fanbase that becomes an increasingly small niche. In the end whether something blows up or not beyond that niche is purely the curiosity factor. And there is a limit to that, especially when non-fans see a random anime girl that looks like she's wearing someone's anime face as a mask.

>> No.55251596

>>55251243
She will naturally get more views when her new album is released.

>> No.55252401

>>55237250
universal is trying to get a viral hit. they invested in her, so they're using their resources to try to recoup the money. they would have disappeared long ago if they just signed contracts and waited to see what happens.

>> No.55252580

>>55252401
Anon, just stop. She just sold around ~10K Albums just off membership. Album sales matter more than views in the eyes of a label.

>> No.55252871

>>55252580
? it's true? they'd do it for any new contract that hadn't blown up yet. they see the potential and are trying to find the right formula to profit.

>> No.55253060

>>55238072
I'd love this idea so I can have motivation to start playing that shit game just to go around shooting at every mori skin user I see

>> No.55253596

>>55252871
>already has the freedom to choose her producers
>They're still trying!
Holy Cope, Batman!

>> No.55253715

>>55253596
i don't see your issue. ok fine, universal is no longer trying to help her. i give up.

>> No.55255838

>>55237891
It's doing bad anon

>> No.55256625

>>55249488
But she's not spacing them out. They are releasing as quick as ever

>> No.55257020

>>55240846
>Go from 37 million, to a mere 239k views
The Mori brand is officially dead, no amount of leeching can save her.

>> No.55257151

>>55256625
The MV release schedule isn't her recording schedule; she's had 7 months to work on this EP of 6 songs compared to 13 by this time last year(not counting Q and Graveyard Shift on unalive because they were done way before the album).

>> No.55257282

>>55257020
If this was true, then the Backstreet Boys would have stopped at "I want it that way", Micheal Jackson would've stopped at "Thriller", BTS would've stopped at "Butter"

>> No.55257511

>>55237250
why are so many of her songs complaining about how hard it is to maintain her surface level kayfaybe?

>> No.55257681

>>55257282
>Whataboutism
Mori is old and busted and can only leech off people to remain somewhat relevant.
This is a fact looking at the numbers and her behavior.

>> No.55257865

>>55257681
>looking at the numbers
you mean cherry picking and ignoring the fact that the algorithm has changed that even Suisei's new releases have the same growth, and they aren't being released in a rapid-fire mode like Moris?

Or do I have to screenshot how Gura's own OP is struggling to get past 1M?

>> No.55258309

>>55257681
NTA but
>>Whataboutism
That's not "whataboutism" at all you fucking retard lmao
It's an apt demonstration of how retarded your logic is when applied to other artist
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfWlot6h_JM
>"None of Taylor Swift's new music has 3 billion views so her brand is dead now"
And you KNOW this sounds retarded which why you tried to handwave it, because you only want to use that logic insofar it allows you shit on Mori lol

>> No.55260510

>>55237250
Rent free

>> No.55261732

>>55237250
Because fans of famous artists are not interested in mori.

>> No.55262472

>>55250566
>you niggas need to actually to look around and see how holo originals are doing
Marine dropped a new original 5 days ago that has five times as many views as Mori's that has been out twice as long.

>> No.55262731

>>55262472
>Coomerbait vid

>> No.55262947

>>55238072
>he doesn't know

>> No.55263265
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>Mori is struggling to get views!
>top 10 most viewed channel in Hololive this week
Are Mori's antis okay in the head?

>> No.55264333

>>55263265
it's /#/rot. Leave it be, this always happens when Mori releases anything.

>> No.55264657

>>55262472
>Marine
This comp is retarded cause Mori releases as much music as Marine does in a year in 2 weeks on top of having professionally and full animated MVs that help carry them
No shit is going to have more views
Compare her to someone who actually has a semi frequent release schedule rather than 1 to 2 songs a year

>> No.55265583

>>55237250
Mori only has her devoted and mindbroken cuckhold fanbase left, in a limbo between the Hololive „bubble“ and the outside world she will never be an Idol.
forever stuck bending over for upper management while pleasing an ever shrinking fanbase

>> No.55265679

>>55265583
Nice Chuuni speech, pal. Maybe if you actually honed this skill, you'd go places.

>> No.55265699

>>55263265
>Marine with almost quadruple Mori's monthly views despite having like 1/10 as many songs

>> No.55265709

>>55237250
i have no idea who two of those people are

>> No.55266058

Her music has really declined. She peaked around the end of 2021 and half of 2022. Her recent songs just barely get over 1 million views with a few that do better than expect but not as good as stuff she did before that hit over the 10 million views and above. Most of her fans are listening to her old stuff rather than the new ones.

>> No.55266513

>>55266058
>Ed Sheeran's music has declined, He peaked around the end of 2021 and half of 2022. His recent songs just barely get over 1 million views with a few that do better than expect but not as good as stuff he did before that hit over the 10 million views and above. Most of his fans are listening to his old stuff rather than the new ones.

>> No.55266629

>>55266513
god it's sad you think you're proving a point here

>> No.55266991

>>55266629
The point is that you are so obsessed with a percieved drop-off that you ignore that it happens to all artists, especially to viral ones.

Do I need to put a screenshot of Rie Tanaka's streaming numbers to show you that CCV does not mean "Popularity"?

>> No.55267071

>>55265699
Gee I wonder if live streams have something to do with that!

>> No.55267345

>>55265679
I guess I could try being Moris ghostwriter, her fans seem to love that chuuni stuff, then again when was the last time they weren’t mindlessly praising her

>> No.55267503

>>55267345
>WAH WAH X FANS ARE BULLYING ME
grow up.

>> No.55267525

>>55267345
>I guess I could try being Moris ghostwriter,
Not with that grammar, ESL-chama

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>>55237250
Meanwhile JP cover get half million in the first week or even day
>>55240552
>durr ESL!
Classic deadbeat tactic

>> No.55268145

>>55237250
I don't know who either of these people are.

>> No.55268242

>>55267525
Don’t worry I’ll just call it a stylistic choice ;)

>> No.55268375

>>55268145
>>55268031
>immediately exposes himself as an "ironic weeb"

Holy hypocrite, batman.

>> No.55268439
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>>55268031
>ESL
>dumbfuck retard

>> No.55268554

>>55267345
if and when you did become her ghostwriter, can you please make her sing more praises to herself and her fanbase instead of shitting on literal whos

>> No.55269129

>>55268375
Im sorry I watch the anime for the animation not for the music (OP/ED)
>>55268439
痛いペコ

>> No.55269331

>>55269129
Then you can your license to shit on Mori for being an "ironic" weeb is revoked.

>> No.55269737

The goalposts in this thread has been moved so much that it has devolved to the holoan just latching to whatever bad thing about Mori that's not even related to the op.

>> No.55269952

>>55269737
It's even broken Rule #1 numerous times now.

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