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The filler gen of HoloEN

>> No.55230619

>>55230521
must say it was good in between season show

>> No.55230671

>>55230521
It looks like a wallpaper for an MMO from 2015

>> No.55230682

I think Mumei and Fauna are fine.

>> No.55230841

>>55230521
they're doomed as middle child

>> No.55231044

>>55230521
kek

>> No.55231116

>Myth is Bleach
>CouncilRyS is MHA
>Advent is SAO

>> No.55231127

>>55230521
>Barely streamed
>Hate their fans
>Still somehow get good numbers
Ironic just like Gen 2 JP

I guess ID's Gen 2 is the odd-man out

>> No.55231873

>>55231127
wdym ID2 is the shitter gen of ID.

ID1 successfully attracted the EN fans to their branch, effectively saved their branch from the failure in their immature market.
ID2 just rode the wave of newfound popularity for ID2, and now they're just existing.
ID3 successfully breaking through the local market and establish domination in the new fast growing market that they cultivated, that the ID1 failed to achieve. Truly a golden gen, a counterpart of JP3.

>> No.55231929

>>55231127
>Barely streamed
>Hate their fans
but enough about Myth

>> No.55231986

>>55230521
Only myth feels unique, every gen after was kind of shit. Also why does EN keep insisting on having that chuuni ass lore.

>> No.55232052

>>55231986
Compared to Council, Advent has barely any lore.

>> No.55232086
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55232086

>>55230521
The short arc where one of the new characters passed away was an odd one. She didn't get a satisfying character arc at all but her fans would let us believe her passing was super impactful to the series or something.

>> No.55232156

>>55231986
>Also why does EN keep insisting on having that chuuni ass lore
Because it's based and management realizes that EOPs are probably shounenfags anyway.

>> No.55232326

Advent has too many Asians for my taste. Council has a higher white chuuba percentage. If only Sana had done her fucking job Council wouldn't be so disgraced. I still think Cover needs to find another Aussie and redebut Sana as if she came back. Go full kayfabe and pretend it's the same talent behind the scenes. Make it part of the lore that Council worked together to fix Sana's back and now she's back for good.

>> No.55232403

>>55232326
>redebut Sana as if she came back
That would be really weird and disrespectful to the fans.

>> No.55232440

>>55232326
>Council has a higher white chuuba percentage.
And that's why they flopped.

>> No.55232540

>>55232326
Less white women is a good thing, if anything advent has too few asian girls.

>> No.55232612

>>55232052
>>55232156
It doesn't matter, why is it even there on top of that why is it so complicated? The girls never play into it and the fanbase doesn't want them to, its ridiculous.

>> No.55232620

Kronii had so much potential to be the star of the gen early on but her character development fell flat.

>> No.55232679

>>55232326
why are you watching holo, go watch twitch

>> No.55232682

>>55232620
She didn't want the burden of expectations from gachis weighing down her mind anymore.

>> No.55232703

fauna is the main character of holo en

>> No.55232747

>>55232326
>>55232440
Anons, Council has 2/5 white woman while Advent has 3/5.
You should probably learn some basic math...

>> No.55233167

>>55230521
Who's the brown girl on the left and where is Irys?

>> No.55233269

>>55232326
Having more Asians based and the white girls are the worst members of EN anyway

>> No.55233420

>>55233269
>white girls are the worst members of EN anyway
Fauna and Mumei are the only reason Council isn't a total trash fire.

>> No.55233546

>>55231986
I think the lore and unified theme for the gens is to help media projects like manga and such later down the line. No evidence for this though its just my guess.

>> No.55233875

>>55233269
Fauna and Mumei are currently carrying Council. And should I even mention Gura? White women made EN vtubers relevant.
>>55232747
The twins are not white, or at least were not raised in a white country, which is why they sound so ESL.
>inb4 that's just kayfabe voice
Even in their PL they sound ESL. Voice is all that matters here, so even if they are white they sound like they are asian so it's irrelevant.
>>55232403
It's disrespectful to us to have hired someone who couldn't last a fucking year. Give us what they had intended in the first place: an Aussie chuuba to fill the hours in that time zone

>> No.55234410

>>55233875
They are white and raised in a white country. Their voice is really just kayfabe, you can find 10 year old videos of them speaking accent free english...
Do you reps before you assume on something with no basis.

>> No.55234614

>>55230521
>pushing Bae as the leader
What were they thinking? It doesn't even make sense lore-wise. Omega, you dumb motherfucker.

>> No.55234685

>>55233875
fauna yes, mumei isn't carrying anything. she barely streams and her subs are accidental, thanks to the jp tiktoker mumei. Hoomans trying to cover their eyes from the fact that mumei's subs are meaningless and she lost like 20% of her ccv

>> No.55234770

>>55234614
They were probably hoping for Bae to blow up like gura, she even has a similar cutesy animal themed design

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55234961

>>55230521
Hold on a second, let's go back 5 or 6 months. Who's more filler during this time frame, Myth or Council? Because when I think about it, I'd say Myth wasn't too interesting for a long fucking time.

>> No.55235027

>>55231116
Oy, don't insult Advent like that.

>> No.55235085

>>55234614
Can agree Bae as leader doesn't fit too well personality-wise, but concept/lore-wise it makes perfect sense. Chaos as the primordial origin of reality and everything in it (and in that sense being the superior to other fundamental concepts) is a ubiquitous concept in mythologies and cosmologies all over the world.

>> No.55235139

>>55232747
>Myth 4/5
>Council 2/5
>Advent 3/5
Is the white women ratio a good indication for a gen's success?

>> No.55235293

>>55231116
>Myth is Yu Yu Hakusho
>Council is Bleach
>Advent is Jujutsu Kaisen
Fixed.

>> No.55235296

>>55230521
>carried HoloEN while Myth was on hiatus or chased their own fans out
>filler gen
Yeah ok
if it wasn't for Gura being Myth's powerhouse they would've been made completely obsolete by CouncilRyS

>> No.55235314

>>55235139
Unironically, yes.
Nips are honorary whites and the only good asians out there.

>> No.55235380

>>55230841
Will you still be saying that when EN4 is here?

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55235453

>>55234770
It's really telling that Sana was the most extroverted of Council. None of them really seek attention so hampered their own growth.

>> No.55235803

>>55234685
Holy seethe chumnigger

>> No.55235868

>>55232620
Kronii just doesn't know how to pretend to give a fuck about her fans. Her fake ass monotone voice sucks ass. I like everyone in Council except her

>> No.55235908

>>55232326
>redebut Sana
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Oh wait your serious?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>> No.55235951

>>55230521
I thought we agreed that ID is the filler for EN?

>> No.55235979

>>55235951
ID2 maybe.

>> No.55236583

>>55235293
>council is the only one that's even decent
?

>> No.55236675

>>55234614
CHAOS

>> No.55236730

>>55230521
it was worth it for Fauna

>> No.55237235

>>55230521
>A voice actor that doesn't want to use her hololive name to become a famous voice actor
>An artist that doesn't want to do art on stream
>A dancer that had to wait over a year to show how good she can dance
>A singer that lacks confidence to sing a full song without interruptions
>An ASMR artist in a competitive ASMR world

>> No.55237539

>>55235085
That would work if she was themed after primordial chaos, but she's the lolsorandom *holds up spork* funny rat. She does not only fit the leader position, but she has very weak theming compared to the 4 other girls.

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55237574

>>55237235
>>A singer that lacks confidence to sing a full song without interruptions
dammit Moom... just learn some confidence...

>> No.55237795

>>55233875
The twins are hafus raised in Canada...

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55237819

>>55230521
I’m grateful they gave IRyS the closes thing she has to gemmates

>> No.55237955

>>55237795
They are not Hafus

>> No.55237989

>>55237955
If you would like to keep your headcanon around, go ahead.

>> No.55238019

>>55230521
*filter

>> No.55238067

>>55237795
One of them has a big butt so they cant be hafus

>> No.55238104

>>55237989
Do you reps. They have no japanese roots.

>> No.55238132

>>55238104
You do your reps. Or just look at them. But I'm not going spoonfeed you. Find them yourself.

>> No.55238238

>>55238132
I know how they look like. I have met 100% americans that look like Hafus because they live in Japan. If you would do you reps you'd find a tweet that specifically mentions what ethnic roots they have.

>> No.55238350

>>55238238
I know the tweet you are referring about. I believe it was not fully explained in it and people take the explanations for granted. Canadian flag to describe each parent may imply white to you and me, but just by looking at them, I find it more likely they were combining ethnicity and nationality in it. Yes, they're parents are Canadian, but not ethnically.

>> No.55238514

>>55238350
Then I can help that you are stupid when they said they are caucasian. Hafus are Nips+Anything else. If you dismiss their words as being wrong because of your stupid headcanon then please hang yourself.

>> No.55238521

>>55237795
How could someone raised in Canada, America or any country from South America not know who Mary Poppins or Scooby Doo are? That is not possible. Every cartoon from Hanna Barbera are ingrained in all of these cultures.

>> No.55238580

>>55238521
That comes from them themselves. They were probably just raised on weeb stuff or self-isolated themselves to it. They are 100% from Canada.

>> No.55238613

>>55235293
this.

>> No.55238622

>>55238521
Turboweebs, even said "Cartoons? You mean Anime, right?"

>> No.55238648

>>55238514
I am aware what Hafu means. One parent is Japanese and one parent is white Canadian. Or it is possible one parent is a Hafu and another is white. They be 3/4 white and 1/4 Japanese, but my point stands.

>> No.55238647

>>55238238
Kek, have you not seen the amount of Asians that live in Canada? Sure, their parents might be first gen Canadians but it doesn't make them French or white.

>> No.55238680

>>55238067
God i want to lick her black tights

>> No.55238689

>>55238648
*they COULD be 3/4 white and 1/4 Japanese
Whoops.

>> No.55238823

>>55238238
>I have met 100% americans that look like Hafus
americans are all mutts. If you attribute being american or canadian to being white then you're retarded lmao

>> No.55238928

>>55238823
nta, but I hope you are that the race statstics doesn't mean that each person is 56% white and 44% some other race. Most white Americans are different white ethnicity mixed. If a white Swede and white Norge have children, are they magically not white because they are mutts?

>> No.55238952

>>55237819
>I’m grateful they gave IRyS the closes thing she has to gemmates
Same Im glad they're letting CouncilRys be a thing

>> No.55238979

>>55237235
>>A voice actor that doesn't want to use her hololive name to become a famous voice actor
Anon with the way the catalog was filled with threads calling her a tranny for the better part of a year, the people calling her lazy now would just call her a grifter instead.

>> No.55238980

>>55238580
Scooby Doo man... It's impossible, know what? I think they are fucking aliens

>> No.55239025

>>55238689
>they COULD
Yes, they could. Heck, I could be a Hafu yet I am not. You have zero proof and go off by "They look Japanese".
Again white people can look deceivingly Japanese since some Nips look very caucasian as well. And don't get me started on doing make up to look more asian.
The only fact here is that you have a limited world view.

>> No.55239161

>>55239025
No, they don't look Japanese. They look like Hafus. If you look at what a typical Hafu looks like on Google images, they fit the image. I could be wrong, but where I live has plenty of Hafus. If I'm wrong, it would be quite the weird situation. The fact is that, unfortunately, when those of the new world describe their background nationality and ethnicity lines are blurred. I contend they mixed Canadian nationality with ethnicity. It's not that uncommon.

>> No.55239188

>>55238689
Thats racist anon

>> No.55239626

>>55239161
Could be Half-Gooks, could be Half-Chinks. Could be a lot of things.
Heck, look at someone like Björk who looks asian dispite being Islandian. Or how a friend of mine who has no asian roots whatsoever got called a chink by another friend's dad.
Again you got no proof, so stop passing of your racist headcanon as a fact.

>> No.55239630

>>55238928
they would still be 100% germanic
nationality =/= ethnicity
the white/black think is retarded american thing, there is no white, black or asian ethnicity
but there are indians, arabs germanics, slavs, mediterranians, mongols, ...

>> No.55239662

>>55238680
>>55238067
Proof?

>> No.55239928

>>55239630
I never used the term "white ethnicity". White, in this context, is a race. An ethnicity is a subset of race. Sure, you could argue that I should refer to Swedes as Germanic (or Scandinavian if I want to narrow it down more). But I was not referring to ethnic groupings. I was referring to racial groupings, which is broader. If you are talking about whiteness, which is what you were referring to in your initial post, all white ethnic groupings fall under it. So an Anglo and a Germanic, both different ethnic groupings, would make a white baby.

>> No.55240241

>>55239662
Reps

>> No.55240302

>>55239928
scandinavia is a region, you are scandinavian when u are from the scandinavian region but it is not a race.
race is defined by haplogroups. those are not "subgroups", since you either have that gene or not.
White is not a race, you can´t even define it

>> No.55240455

>>55240302
Clearly, you have reading comprehension issues. You misunderstood everything I had said. In the new world, not just America, the concept of race is a known and understood thing. A race is a very broad group of different ethnicities. White is one of them. All ethnic groups belong to different races. All nationalities belong to different ethnic groups. Sadly, with modern globalism and travel, this is getting more blurred. But in any case, that is how the new world views it.

>> No.55240570

>>55231929
>>Barely streamed
>>Hate their fans
>but enough about Myth
Kek, Mythfags do nothing but project their insecurities unto CouncilRyS. Everything they accuse them of, they are guilty of.

>> No.55240636

>>55240455 (me)
I guess the best way to see it is like this:
Race is a large umbrella. Under the white race are Germanic people, Anglos, Slavs, Celtics, etc. (Some will disagree with this, but this is something I disagree with).
Ethnic groups are also an umbrella. Each ethnic group encompass different nationalities. For example, the Germanic ethnic group contains native: Germans, Austrians, some Swiss, etc.

>> No.55240679

>>55234410
When are they going to ease up on the kayfabe?

>> No.55240754

>>55240455
yes i misunderstood
i thought we were talking about race as it is used in anthropology, as the premise was the definition of fuwamocos race
since the "new world" way of thinking about race is mostly just about skincolor, they might aswell be considered white, whatever

>> No.55241024

>>55240679
Never. They did this in their PLs and they are Turboweebs that pretend to be Japanese for the past 10 years.
They are Korone/Pekora/Luna tier when it comes to Kayfabe.

>> No.55241310

Are JP and ID fans as tribalistic as EN? Every achievement is coupled with pushing others down. And no it's not new with advent.

>> No.55241496

>>55241310
Fanbases on the internet tend to have groups that are overly positive and groups that are overly negative. 4chan and 5ch are examples of the latter. But for groups overly positive are Reddit and Japanese Twitter. I have no idea about ID.

>> No.55241520

>>55241024
I usually like when the vtuber gets more comfortable but I'm happy for the kayfabefags.

>> No.55241675

>>55230682
I like Fauna's chill attitude.
Never can catch her live, so I just watch vods.

>> No.55241924

>>55241024
>They are Korone/Pekora/Luna tier when it comes to Kayfabe.
None of these three pretend very hard

>> No.55242472

>>55236583
>council is the most clusterfuck one
fixed for you m8

>> No.55244201

>>55234770
They shouldn't have given her tits then

>> No.55244541

>>55230521
this implies that MYTH was ever good. they were always overrated.

>> No.55245557

>>55241924
Not by their lore, but their personality and character traits. They don't break character, but obviously not make up stories that would fit the lore all the time.
But that is the same as the twins are doing it.
Come to think of it, does even any vtuber a character in all aspects?

>> No.55245985

>>55245557
It was easier in ye old times when every Vtuber did regular videos instead.

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