/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

https://vta.anycolor.co.jp/announcements/b0ydsumog6an/

Lmao, 3/4ths of VTA were kicked out after "rules violations"

[Anonymous No.]

>>55094413
Another day, another niji yab.

[Anonymous No.]

>>55094413
>https://vta.anycolor.co.jp/announcements/b0ydsumog6an/
"This time, it has been confirmed that some members of the VTA 2nd, 3rd, and 4th generation violated the rules set by our company regarding VTA, including thorough information management.
As a result, we have terminated the provision of the program to the applicable VTA members.

Due to the termination of the program, we have updated the list of current students .
I would like to express heartfelt gratitude to all the fans who have supported us until now.

In addition, in response to this incident, the VTA is reviewing its operation system, and during that time, the activities of all VTA members have been temporarily suspended.
As soon as the new operation system is in place, we will resume the activities of the VTA members, so we kindly ask for your understanding

[Anonymous No.]

GLORY TO CHAIRMAN RIKU

[Anonymous No.]

>>55094413
DeepL
>Thank you for your continued support of the Virtual Talent Academy ("VTA"). Thank you very much for your continued support of the "Virtual Talent Academy" ("VTA").

>We have recently confirmed that some members of the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th terms of the VTA have violated the rules we have established for the VTA, including the strict management of information.
>As a result, we have terminated the program to the affected VTA members.

>We are updating the list of "Current Students" to reflect the termination of program offerings.
>We would like to thank all of our fans for their support.

>In response to this matter, VTA is reviewing its operational structure and has temporarily suspended the >activities of all VTA members in the meantime.
>As soon as the new operational structure is in place, VTA members will resume their activities.

>Please direct all inquiries regarding this matter to the ANYCOLOR Corporation Inquiry Desk (https://www.anycolor.co.jp/contact ),
>Please refrain from contacting ANYCOLOR's VTA members (including any communication on social networking services and comments made during the broadcast). Please refrain from contacting ANYCOLOR >or VTA members (including any communication on social networking sites, comments during the broadcast, etc.).
>August 3, 2023
>ANYCOLOR Inc.

[Anonymous No.]

A-accelerate...

[Anonymous No.]

>>55094413
VTA has always been a scam, but this is honestly incredible.
Also niji is now terminating chuubas before they even début, truly pioneers of the industry

[Anonymous No.]

>>55094413
NIJISANJI IN SHAMBLES
HOLOLIVE THRIVING
THANK ME YAGOO

[Anonymous No.]

>>55094413
>>55094533
>>55094623
Guess we found where the leaks came from

[Anonymous No.]

EOP only care about Filia and she's clean

[Anonymous No.]

>>55094854
Who?

[Anonymous No.]

>>55094413
B..but sisters told me they were just on summer holiday because Anycolor was worried they would get heatstroke doing practices in the heatwave...

[Anonymous No.]

>>55094686
BAU BAU piss off nijikek

[Anonymous No.]

>>55094413
Did they keep the multilingual girl?

[Anonymous No.]

When a company fires one or two employees it might have just been getting rid of a few bad eggs. When a company is constantly firing/losing people then there's something fundamentally wrong with it

[Anonymous No.]

>>55094926
Red hair girl that speaks like 4 languages
>>55094991
Yes

[Anonymous No.]

>>55094413
Jesas... well it seems that the selection process got easier

[Anonymous No.]

>>55095146
FUCK YES

[Anonymous No.]

>>55094670
Kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>55094533
>wipe out most of them
>suspend the rest
I mean I get it; you clean house before have people over, but holy shit.

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>>55094413
The only thing that matters is on the survivors list
>凩フィリア
The multilingual redhead Filia Kogarashi still there, or.... that's actually a bad thing since she still at the clutches of anycolor?
Can't even imagine a single information rule that so many people broke at the same time
probably just an excuse like the "covid" for the EN 3D cancellation
bet on cutting short the ones with the worst progress after the majority of the 2 heroes waves are doing worse than the 7girls wave in Manjisanji of all places
the stakeholders will make Riku never forget to accelerate

[Anonymous No.]

>>55094714
if you're talking about EN related leaks, sounds impossible for VTA people to know anything
unless you talking about some new JP leaks nobody is talking about

[Anonymous No.]

>>55094533
>thorough information management
What info could not one or two, but 3/4 of the group mismanage to deserve a termination?

[Anonymous No.]

>>55095358
probably went down as
>management tells the livers confidential information without mentioning it's confidential
>the livers share that information amongst themselves
>"what the fuck how could you break NDA like that"

sounds kind of Niji-core

[Anonymous No.]

>we see them off

[Anonymous No.]

>>55095146
https://youtu.be/Y2stYLKhPTM
More than that, since she can speak in distinct dialects too.
>>55095294
She's stuck for VTA, but she can just ditch them afterwards and not sign a contract with Nini.

[Anonymous No.]

>>55094413
What the fuck? I thought you guys said they were closing for weather.

[Anonymous No.]

>>55095905
No monies, needed to close down the entire project but had to come up with some excuse for the shareholders and potential investors to not look bad

[Anonymous No.]

>>55095905
>you guys
That was one anon who was very actively arguing with everyone else trying to push his theory.

[Anonymous No.]

>>55094413
>Lmao, 3/4ths of VTA were kicked out after "rules violations"
Not to be pedantic, but if they kicked out 19 out of 29 that's a little under 2/3, not 3/4ths.

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>>55095294
>Can't even imagine a single information rule that so many people broke at the same time
Either a all of them were chatting on 5chan about anycolor internal policies, or b some of them were already shopping around to other companies and put their vta names on their resumes

[Anonymous No.]

>>55095905
>falling for nijicope
Ngmi

[Anonymous No.]

>>55096478
What do i look like, a number cruncher? Let's just put it in as significantly more than half

[Anonymous No.]

>>55094413
My condolences if you lost somebody.

[Anonymous No.]

>>55094413
>rule violation
Just fire them normally… why is there a need to put a black record on their name.

[Anonymous No.]

lol anti idols will not survive

[Anonymous No.]

>>55097280
If they fired them then niji would be the bad guy, can't be having that because otherwise the sisters might start thinking their harassment campaigns aren't justifiable

[Anonymous No.]

>>55095722
So comparing wage and bonus?
It's usually forbidden

[Anonymous No.]

>>55096906
lets be real we only care about Filia cause she is a native english speaker
as long she is there who cares about the rest

[Anonymous No.]

>>55094413
Holysh1t
That's a lot of blood
Acceleration so soon?
> More Niji tournament
> New Gen

[Anonymous No.]

>>55094413
Do you remember all the nijinigger putting a bunch of nonsence to say blackolor wasn't pulling another wave of terminated organ? It's time for some deserved clowning.

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>>55094413
So the Chinese leak about the vta applicants being used as slave labour was true huh?

[Anonymous No.]

>>55099885
I'm interested, details please.

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>>55101106
There's a rumour floating around on bili2 about nijisanji using vta as unpaid interns editing videos and clips for the main channel and stuff. Don't know how true it is but it's infinitely more likely to be the leak they are refering to rather than them posting here

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>>55094564
KEK

[Anonymous No.]

>>55101797
But all clips on the official channel have proper credits in their descriptions (切り抜き作者).
https://youtube.com/@nijisanji_kirinuki

[Anonymous No.]

>>55094413
Jesas

[Anonymous No.]

What does this mean for future debuts? The entertainment factory must continue production.

[Anonymous No.]

>>55103986
I imagine the experienced streamer/virtual singer lane is unaffected.

The academy students remaining (10 of them) will probably resume streaming once shit gets sorted out, assuming nobody quits. There's 2 gens' worth of auditions that still hasn't debuted.

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>>55103986
>What does this mean for future debuts?
You merely need to look into the information obtained around ILUNA's debut to know that Nijisanji does not want vTubers or people who like vTubing to be hired anymore. Even the likes of Pomu have said she'd not pass the first round of applications due to how drastic the demands have changed. What they want to do now is hit "market demographics" that don't interact with vTubing so they can pull in new viewership prospects. It's the short of shit you see stockholders with too much power demand.

"Well A and B demographics make us this much money, but we noticed this group in C and D do not engage with vTubing. Hire people from C and D so we can obtain that part of the pie"

Which has proven thus far with the last three waves, a waste of fucking time and money.

>ILUNA are the normies with interests that don't translate well to vTubing due to how the medium is presented.
>XSOLIA are ESL's from other parts of East Asia, hoping for a K-Pop like effect
>GAMERS was such a dud that the project was shelfed and rebranded, with two of the hires being ESL French fucks
With the acceptations of Hex (the skinwalker) and Kyo (the wigger), almost all of them have entered 3 view or lower status at multiple points

[Anonymous No.]

>>55094413
When it's easier to list who is left than those removed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>55097280
Anycolor refuses to change. It's like they are run by the Chinese. "covid" "heatwave" "rules violation"
Just stop already.

[Anonymous No.]

>>55094533
>>55094413
fucking black company

[Anonymous No.]

You think those 10 guys from the same batch planned to leak shit in advance or was it all impromptu? There's no way 13 people were leaking shit individually all at the same time they must've coordinated with each other at some point or maybe they got canned because it's too hot and anykara can't afford to pay the AC bills

[Anonymous No.]

>>55103986
Nothing? VTA was only meant to filter who gets to debut and if they were expelled for breaking a rule then it's working as intended

[Anonymous No.]

>>55105312
>the factory that produces vtubers for the entertainment factory breaking down means nothing for the entertainment factory
Do you really?

[Anonymous No.]

>>55094714
Nah this is entirely a cost cutting measure disguised as security theater.

[Anonymous No.]

She will be back, i belieb. Fuck anycolour.

[Anonymous No.]

>>55105312
If it's working as indented then why did they suspend all activities indefinitely instead of just kicking out the troublemakers and continuing as usual

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>>55106162
Its not usual to have a stoppage of any kind of content activity when it comes to an investigation of any wrongdoings or inappropriate activities. That's just protocol. The real question is why or how badly did they basically fuck up to warrant termination from VTA. These are the real questions that needed to be answered in more detail.

[Anonymous No.]

>THE ROA COURT CASE
>NOW THIS

[Anonymous No.]

I wonder what rule they broke, did they use spoon to eat instead of chopsticks? Because there's no fucking way all of them were leakers

[Anonymous No.]

If you kept up with it, they already let go of two VTA students, one was Sonata who quit because of health reasons, and the other was Gungnir who was a troublemaker. It's entirely possible that those students were either simply retarded and leaked important stuff or accidentally leaked something. It explains why they shut down everything to track down who was responsible.

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>>55106473
>The real question is why or how badly did they basically fuck up to warrant termination from VTA.
and how did whoever is responsible for overseeing VTA allow it to come to a state where over half the people engaged in the project were committing termination worthy offenses. That's a massive failure of vetting and education on the part of VTA.

[Anonymous No.]

>>55106473
>19 out of 29 get fired at the same time for the same reason
>nope, there's no way my oshi Anycolor could be in the wrong, I must believe the announcement and blame the ones who can't defend themselves
>let's just ignore how ridiculous Zaion's infringements were, how 2 ex livers called it a prison or how other ex livers went indie right after quitting instead of renewing the contract
One or a couple of terminations could be justified with that shitty info management excuse. When the huge majority gets fired, the ones that a usually in the wrong are the employers that are lacking funds and want to axe the branch or company

[Anonymous No.]

>>55106948
>leak
>leak
>muh leak
LEAK WHAT? TO WHO? What could they possibly leak for them to get 19/29 terminated at the same time? Do you even believe in "health reasons"? Stop trying to defend a company with a track record of fucking over their employees

[Anonymous No.]

>>55107162
Contract details seems like something pretty big to leak. We're also talking about young adults/teenagers here and it is a school so it's possible that they engaged in bullying.
There's no reason to think that they were let go off for money reasons because they would simply disappear from the channel either way. Not every VTA student streams regularly, some barely stream after their debut stream so nobody would even notice if they left. Sonata also talked about his health problems in his streams.

[Anonymous No.]

>kicked out after "rules violations"
kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>55094413
i find it very hard to believe that 3/4 of them really were all leaking shit at the same time

[Anonymous No.]

sasuga kurosanji

[Anonymous No.]

>>55108431
Especially after Zaion termination

[Anonymous No.]

>>55094413
VTA is mistake.
There's no good talent coming from it, even most nijien better hire are mostly not from VTA

[Anonymous No.]

>>55094533
They're not even being subtle about this.
"Oh yeah, most of our members violate some rule or whatever, now they're all fired. More money to us!"

[Anonymous No.]

>>55095001
High turnover rate in a company is always a huge red flag.

[Anonymous No.]

>>55097791
It's actually legal to talk about wage and bonus with fellow co-workers.
The company don't want you to do it to avoid paying honest salary ofc.

[Anonymous No.]

>>55098624
Why the fuck are you censoring yourself?

[Anonymous No.]

>>55104318
I suspect they hire normies because everyone who have slight interest with Vtubing already know about the 2%

[Anonymous No.]

>>55108061
>Niji Management firing someone for bullying
AHAHAHAHAHAHA that's a good joke, anon. You sure are a comedian!

[Anonymous No.]

>>55106965
I don't believe 19 people will break the same rule together.
You're still victim blaming, but it's common for a niji apologist.

[Anonymous No.]

>>55094686
The Victory is not complete until Tempus is graduated

[Anonymous No.]

>>55095294
unless she hates herself or wants to suck Riku's dick, I don't see any reason for her to join niji after VTA

[Anonymous No.]

>>55111618
I was specifically criticising Nijisanji. The point was, even if everything is exactly as they say it is, it's still a huge failure on their part.

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>>55096906
This is like danganronpa

[Anonymous No.]

>>55096906
Nijigraveyard

[Anonymous No.]

>>55112462
You could assign a Pokemon to each of them and we might have the entire Kanto Pokedex by the end of the year!

[Anonymous No.]

Need a photoshop of Riku as Takeshi Kitano on the side.

[Anonymous No.]

>>55106473
>to warrant termination from VTA
I really doubt it takes much to be terminated from VTA, they're basically trainees and even the ones who finish the program aren't guaranteed to stay

[Anonymous No.]

No matter how you paint it, firing the majority of your trainees isn't a good look.

[Anonymous No.]

Why are you dramatrannies pretending like this is the bad thing when the entire point of VTA is to filter out the undesirables and people who "won't make it"?

[Anonymous No.]

>>55113240
There is filtering out and then there is terminating 20 of them the same day, the same hour after months of work

[Anonymous No.]

>>55113240
Nijisanji bad, nothing else matters

[Anonymous No.]

EOP SEAnigger thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>55113240
So true sis

https://archive.palanq.win/vt/thread/12251258/#12357552
>As I remember it VTA graduation is a (the?) way to qualify you for a direct invitation to Nijisanji JP, but on a general level it's to teach people various vtubing skills which they obviously can then put to use where they like.

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>>55113279
That just means 20 people needed to be filtered anonchama.
Again, its the "Training Agency".
I don't think any of you even understand how it works in the first place, not only for Niji but in REAL LIFE.
A fuck ton aren't gonna make it anyways, and even if so, if all those tards "violated the rules" do you WANT them to be allowed to pass? That's just fucking retarded if so.
Again I don't get why this is "bad". Its like if Cover just allowed Rushia to stay after she broke contact to "not look bad to fans" lmao

>>55113575
So not only are they confirmed basically not making it in JP anyways (like what was already known), but apparently they're retarded rulebreakers who can't even do VTA right.
I'm again asking how this is a bad thing
Hardmode: Don't use any BVTM discord buzzwords

[Anonymous No.]

I'm calling it now, anycolor will be getting a major thrashing soon in the shuukanshi. Turnover at these rates is insanity, considering how good japanese are at taking abuse. The worst buraku kigyou I can think of aren't nearly as deadly as this, this comes off like some sort of hunger games setup.
It makes me wonder if Riku is sexually abusing the talent (on his yachts) or not, considering many talent agencies do (see Johnny's).
Currently shortselling anycolor for infinite money, so I'm happy about it I guess.

[Anonymous No.]

>20 people broke NDA
Lmao
If only their janny took a look at NijiCN and did the same

[Anonymous No.]

>>55113675
And apparently not all of them were even expelled, they haven't actually revealed who graduated normally and who didn't, which is the only part JP fans seem to be confused/concerned about. My guess is they don't want to make it obvious who's going to be in the next wave before they debut.

It's funny seeing tourists who have no idea what VTA is or how it operates just making up shit though. And you immediately know they're tourists because they start their sentences with "Nijisanji".

[Anonymous No.]

>>55113799
They are such a black company they even made Hakache tell everyone on stream that they are a white company. Disgusting!
https://youtu.be/6DWFWaAXnFQ

[Anonymous No.]

>>55114090
You are correct its actually anycolor and Riku that is shafting them
Currently giving him THE biggest kill count in vtubing currently sitting at 70 killed vtubers. Is he going to build a yacht out of their bones or what?

[Anonymous No.]

>>55114199
the yachts must flow

[Anonymous No.]

>>55094533
2023 is absolutely not Nijisanji’s year. What a disaster of a company.

[Anonymous No.]

>>55114169
Careful anon, if you point out the many things that have been quite good that even hololive hasn't done, the SEAmonkeys will start their screeching. Just look at the post above mine

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>>55114583
Like what? Getting some collab exclusively in China?

[Anonymous No.]

>>55094413
How many graduations/terminations does that make it this year?

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>>55096906
Seems like a classroom of the elite type conspiracy.
Who is the 50% man? Who benefited the most out of this

[Anonymous No.]

>>55114827
Like
-several meet and greet convention appearances
-actual live performances in front of hundreds of people
-constant convention appearances across the world
-monthly sponsorships
-bimonthly voice packs that offer one of the biggest cuts for the chuubas and a cute voice pack for the fans

And yeah actually if you're a fan of the males, they've had several collabs with a variety of different places and businesses ranging from cafes to literally KFC.

Overall though even as just a fan of the girls the fact that I can watch them perform stuff at conventions pretty regularly is really cool and of course you also have the fact that there's almost always streams going on, where as even the new chuubas in EN 3 stream at the exact same time as the old chuubas meaning there's not really much more content than there was before, except, hopefully, this gen doesn't go on constant breaks leaving 1-2 people in the entire branch
But I wouldn't really expect a pagpag eating street shitter to understand

[Anonymous No.]

>>55114199
Thank you for proving my point anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>55112462
jezas

[Anonymous No.]

>>55094413
The shareholders are hungry, so they've taken the corn meant to be planted as seed and turned it into popcorn.

[Anonymous No.]

>>55115803
>only anycolor does meet and greets, live performances and sponsorships
Not even the biggest drone is this delusional
3view indies do everything you listed nowadays

[Anonymous No.]

>>55115803
do you do anything aside from defend nijisanji in catalog threads

[Anonymous No.]

>>55116632
And yet hololive doesn't. Whack ain't it?
>>55116686
>Not an argument

[Anonymous No.]

>now slandering chuubas Zaion style en masse
I dont think all the schizos on all the message boards in the world have done as much to anti chuubas as Nijisanji and its fans
If you want to fire people just fire them instead of making up shit to try and justify it

[Anonymous No.]

So it's the equivalent of a school shootout but the director is the one holding the gun?

[Anonymous No.]

>>55113675
No one said they had to pass them retard. Using your example, imagine if Cover had 13 Rushias all at the same time breaking contracts. How is that not a bad look for Cover and how did they all get in when there's still an audition process.

[Anonymous No.]

>>55115803
Yeah at least they remember to show up. Imagine not showing up late after the meet&greet starts or not at all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>55117305
It reminds me of the Romans needing to justify their wars, "They conquered the world by defending their allies"
From an outisder's PoV it's straight up delusional

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>>55117479
Why are you pretending that they would have foresight anon.
Yes anon, if Cover knew Rushia would break NDA, or Niji knew all 20 of those retards would fuck up, or Niji knew Zaion would spiral out of control, through some magical fucking future seeing foresight, they probably wouldn't have been hired post audition.
But unfortunately, that's not how the real world work. People can't see the future retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>55108061
Bro do you think it's an actual fucking school? The high school thing is just a character they play, most of these guys are in their late 20s/early 30s

[Anonymous No.]

>>55117479
>How is that not a bad look for Cover and how did they all get in when there's still an audition process.
Nigga do you expect them to know this would happen beforehand? This isn't an anime or some shit retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>55116686
That's his job anon, be nice

[Anonymous No.]

>>55117479
If you could see the future you probably wouldn't have made this stupid post either

[Anonymous No.]

>>55118035
I guess you never heard the saying, if you run into assholes all the time, you're the asshole

[Anonymous No.]

>>55118191
That's a pretty stupid saying honestly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>55118191
>Make an absolutely retarded metaphor
>Get called retarded for it
>Start spouting even more retarded idioms that have no relation to the original argument
Lmfao you're a dumb one

[Anonymous No.]

>>55113675
Even military boot camps have at worst a 15% drop out rate. VTA losing half their entire complement in a single day is not it "working as intended", especially since they had to suspend the entire operation of the program as well

[Anonymous No.]

>>55118035
>>55118082
>13 people spiraling out of control all at the same time is totally normal guys you need to be an anime character to do something about it it's not like companies have entire hiring departments that are supposed to mitigate this
Sisters are actually insane.

[Anonymous No.]

>>55118191
Not only are you retarded but I think you prove that half of this fucking thread doesn't even understand what VTA is they just see "Niji" and freak out like monkeys

[Anonymous No.]

>>55117305
So you don't think they should give a reason to the people who are supportive of the project and following the students' activities? Even the information they gave us was so sparse, we still don't know what has happened.
>>55115803
Hololive does have the HololiveMeet thing, where they send a handful of ambassadors to conventions.

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>>55118315
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Comparing live streaming to the fucking military
I didn't think anons could get more retarded

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>>55118417
>So you don't think they should give a reason to the people who are supportive of the project and following the students' activities?
Correct, no information is better than slandering the participants as an excuse for firing them. Even better would be openly saying they just decided to let them go and wish them well on their way. That's what actual professionals would do. Not that chinese retards would understand

[Anonymous No.]

>>55116714
I... what?
hololive Meet doesn't exist?
hololive 4th fes, 5th gen concert, and Connect the World didn't happen?
hololive members don't get sponsorships? hololive members don't produce voice packs?

Is your head really stuck that deep in the sand?

[Anonymous No.]

>>55118422
NIJISEETHE

[Anonymous No.]

>>55118315
The Military
>Guaranteed and consistent pay stream
>High likelyhood to going to the military
>PHYSICAL WORK involved

Being in VTA/a streamer in general
>Pay is not guaranteed nor is it consistent
>You likelyhood of making it into the corpo is not garunteed and is very unlikely
>You don't do any fucking work at atll
>You (everyone who isn't fucking retarded) knows that after a certain amount of time you'll either be selected for Niji or you won't and will be fired

Uh, yea, it's quite different, dumbfuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>55118687
I accept your concession

[Anonymous No.]

>>55118422
Not as retarded as you somehow arguing that losing 66% of your trainee batch is somehow working as intended

[Anonymous No.]

>>55118315
Retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>55115803
> voice packs that offer one of the biggest cuts for the chuubas
> also niji: you get 2% for merch
if you use this argument to say that other company have lower cuts for voice packs then you're a retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>55118744
And yet somehow even military boot camps don't liquidate 66% of their intake and have retards claim it's somehow working as intended

[Anonymous No.]

holy bootlicking

[Anonymous No.]

>>55118809
NIJISEETHE

[Anonymous No.]

>>55118744
Your way of defending VTA is really weird
>You don't do any fucking work at atll
So you're saying VTA is fucking pointless?

[Anonymous No.]

>>55117489
Couldn't be me, Vox Akuma

[Anonymous No.]

>>55119065
Le retard de vox akuma...

[Anonymous No.]

>>55119065
Wouldn't have happened if they have good managers kek
> Wait do niji even have managers?

[Anonymous No.]

>>55118652
A lot of those concerts aren't actually live. Connect the world in particular took place when the majority of myth were in Japan. It was pre recorded, there was no audience interaction and somehow they still fucked up the camera work to the point where Mori criticized it pretty heavily for completely missing out on Kiaras dance moves.
>>55118417
Hololivemeet is fine but it's literally 5 people, one from each branch (and this year it wasn't even the most popular from each branch) who get to meet up with fans.
If your oshi is Mori or Kiara or Fauna or Mumei or literally anyone other than IRyS/whoever is selected as an ambassador that Year, you're not really able to meet up with them or talk to them. You have to hope that maybe next year your oshi will be selected as an ambassador
>>55118816
Niji offers a 2% cut for generic merch, but Hololives cut for generic merch is also less than the cut they get from superchats and they themselves will tell you voice packs go further than merch does most of the time. But voice packs are a lot less frequent than in Niji and with a 50% cut being given to Niji chuubas for their voice packs, it's a pretty lucrative deal for both company and chuuba alike

[Anonymous No.]

>>55119170
They got Paul Li screeching to them about numbers. Vox probably ignored his call to get on the meet and greet thinking it was about numbers again

[Anonymous No.]

>>55118615
They are Japanese.

[Anonymous No.]

>>55097791
>AnyKara
>Pay
DYRBI

[Anonymous No.]

>>55119240
Are they?

[Anonymous No.]

>>55119367
Yes. Despite what you and your local pagpag vendors might have discussed, they are in fact, Japanese.

[Anonymous No.]

>>55118919
>>So you're saying VTA is fucking pointless?
NTA, but even from the very beginning some people think the answer is hard YES.
Me included.

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>>55119432
Are you sure about that?

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>>55118315
Forget boot camp, even West Point doesn't have this many washouts, and back in the day it had basically the same """family""" culture as Crabsanji

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>>55118919
It honestly feels like the only reason he's defending vta is because it reflects badly on nijisanji and that offends his bootlicking instincts

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>>55119660
Yes Juan.

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>>55119189
It's a lucrative deal ONLY IF you get the deal.

Not every member gets the same amount of merch and voice packs opportunity.

You're a retard if you think niji doesn't have bias and favoritism towards certain talents.

> Even Riku admitted it at the last shareholder meeting

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>>55118919
Nta but vta does teach at least some skills. Even if you don't make it into Niji you'll be an indie or possibly sent to another JP corp that we don't really know about. You're taught how to sing, dance and act. Think of it as a massive all expenses paid, theater class where you're given the chance to potentially get hired in a big theater after/if you graduate.

Comparing it to a military where the entire purpose is to break your mind so bad that you start to enjoy people screaming in your face and waking up at the crack of dawn every day , is an odd comparison. The military is literally designed to try to break your spirit as quickly as possible so if they need you to lay down your life for the country, you'll do so without questioning the motive behind it

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>>55119979
Merchandise deals are not voice packs deals. Every liver in en is given the same opportunity for voice packs. They can even opt out if they so desire.
I can't state how things work on the Japanese side of things because I've never bought a Japanese voice pack before so I wouldn't know

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>>55119979
Yes because Riku is so biased towards Aia and Aster. Jesus do you even know who participated in voice sales.

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>>55120054
Yeah, exactly. If your training program somehow has a worse dropout rate than the military that's literally designed to break people's spirits, somethings gone very wrong

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>>55120399
Except that's not a good argument.
People don't drop out of the military because they get their spirits absolutely crushed by the training regime, the drill sergeants and the daily routines they're put through. Boot camp is designed to make you feel miserable but make you stay because you're worthless.
You talk to someone about dropping out of bootcamp and you're ridiculed for it, terrorized for it, treated like dirt because of it. So you don't, you stay, you get broken down to the point where you don't want to leave.

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>>55120681
So you're saying that a drop out rate higher than 15% is good?

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>>55118875
To be fair, the US military does have a good screening process just to participate in the boot camp festivities.. 25% can't pass the ASVAB test with 8 out of 10 failing on their first try. Part of it is an IQ test. And many more can't pass the physical and mental requirements, then add the background checks.
And while in Boot Camp, even if not quite physically capable, will be sent to PCP (Pork Chop Platoon), for an extensive stay until capable enough. If determined, can get through Boot Camp, just may take much longer than others. The 15% that do fail is mostly mental. Like trying to commit suicide and such. Even then the military doesn't try to shame them, giving an innocuous medical discharge.

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>>55120399
>dropout
So are we pretending they wanted to quit or are we crying about students being "fired" from an academy? Make up your mind.

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>>55120681
>designed to make you feel miserable but make you stay because you're worthless
We're still talking about boot camps, right? Cause it sounds a lot like...you know

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>>55120399
Oof that's an argument won.

>>55120681
> How to win an argument: that's not a good argument

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>>55120802
Unironically. Yes.
On average there's around an 18% drop out rate for most types of schooling like law and medical. In most undergrad colleges there's around a 40% drop out rate. But as
>>55120881 said. A lot of these people were canned for breaking rules

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>>55095001
>>55107015
The lack of replies to these posts (and others) is telling.
Anykara and they chose black. Once a black company always a black company. Anyone still simping for Riku and his yachts is either too deep in sunk cost, retarded, or is just stirring shit up for (You)s.

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>>55121031
Are you pretending to be retarded or were you born that way?

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>>55121106
>>55121132

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>>55121094
>A lot of these people were canned for breaking rules
As told to you by known liars. Not to mention that if the majority of a group is breaking a rule then the rule is the problem, not them.

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>>55120881
What's the difference? The point is that losing 66% of your entire intake is not a good thing and you niggers need to stop trying to paint it as such or somehow working as intended

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>>55121235
Do you have any proof that it was a lie that they broke NDA?

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>>55121132
Idk man even if he is retarded you sounded even more retarded to me lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>55121382
>Riku said they do so they must have

[Anonymous No.]

>>55121489
Maybe you misread the question. Let me ask again.
Do you have any proof that the claim of them breaking NDA is false?

[Anonymous No.]

You literally can't defend this. Like, is it really possible for all these people to break NDA all at the same time? What kinda NDA is that, does it forbid you to eat with fork and knife, is that why so many people got fired, because they all went to steak house and the ones that didn't go are the ones that survived?

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>>55121551
Some possibly graduated as well. We don't know what the NDA entails nor do we know how it was broken.

[Anonymous No.]

>>55121382
Do you have any proof that they broke the NDA? Does anykuro, for that matter?

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>>55097280
You say that like getting fired at all isn't a mark against someone

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>>55107015
Zaion earned her getting punted. Cope, copepod.

[Anonymous No.]

>>55121617
Yes, if anycolor says they broke the NDA they most definitely have proof of them doing so. I'm not really much of one for conspiracy theories. Usually when a company says that you fucked up, you fucked up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>55121547
ok i misread, but same question back to you, do you have actual proof that 20 of them somehow broke NDA at the same time?

>>55121551
also this

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>>55121712
>Riku said they do so they must have
>Riku said they do so they must have
>Riku said they do so they must have

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>>55121715
I mean the company quite literally says a lot of them broke NDA which is why they got canned. If you have some proof that the company is totally lying outside of
>well uhhhhhhhhhhhh uhhhhhh BLACK COMPANY!!!!!!!!!!!
I'd love to see it but judging by how you keep avoiding showing any proof, I'm guessing you don't have any?

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>>55121712
>just trust them bro
So you don't have any proof, nice to see we're on the same page here

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>>55121782
>>55121799
Please provide evidence that the company lied about it. If you're going to claim that the company is lying about it, I'd love to see the evidence you have to make that claim. Especially when nothing like this has ever happened in vta history.

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>>55121712
this is the same company that fired someone and listed one of the reasons that they mentioned a brand, later found out to be a deez nuts joke.
and the same company that blamed covid for canceling an AR concert in 2023.
this company can easily tell lies to suit its needs.

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>>55121889
Why am I supposed to provide evindence? If a known liar makes a claim it's up to him to prove it isn't false. Actually, the same goes even for honest people. When Raita got fired the evidence was out in the open for all to see, but 20 Raitas have slipped under the rug? You're saw up your own ass in 10 posts you'll start arguing that Epstein killed himself because the government said so.

[Anonymous No.]

If you're still defending Niji for not being a black company, stop now.
If this happened across gens, it had to do with the interns speaking to each other.
Any company that tries to isolate its employees and not allow them to speak freely amongst each other, when they should be equally exploited interns of all things, is by definition a black company.

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>>55121968
Zaion would have been fired in any other Japanese company for the same reason. It wasn't just a deez nuts joke, she literally created a logo for it on stream and claimed to be sponsored by them showcasing the logo on stream. That itself wouldn't really fly under most Japanese companies because the brand Dee's Nuts actually does exist.
Japanese laws are God awful and there have literally been defamation cases won because someone clicked like on a post that could be considered "defaming" or because your name appeared in a Google search bar along with the suggestion of "criminal record".

Japanese law sucks ass.

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>>55122516
COPE and SEETHE

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>>55122097
Who the fuck is raita? I can find Rito who is still in nijisanji as far as I can tell and Raito who got fired before he even debuted with them talking about private conversations he had that portrayed him as a creep but the evidence back then wasn't aired for the public to see either, it was a case of them once again saying that something happened.

I'm sure there probably was evidence out there of him being a creep but overall it certainly wasn't aired out by the company
>>55122725
>Not an argument

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>>55121968
What gets me about canceling the AR, is that they didn't give a damn about how this would affect their talents. Saying "Covid" must have been really insulting to them. And yet the fans support the black corp over the talents. Must be very depressing for them. That's when their moral hit the bottom. This is just a repeat and why Anycolor will never change.

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>>55118322
You have to be retarded to think all 13 broke the rules at literally the same time, especially because it's more than one gen, who started at different times. They found out about 1-2 students leaking shit, suspended the program to investigate further, then found out other students had leaked shit.

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>>55123286
Can you show us what they leaked?

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>>55123478
Anon, do you know what a leak is? And do you understand what a NDA is? Why would they say publicly what they leaked? That defeats the whole fucking purpose.

Them all being expelled from the school doesn't mean they leaked shit at the same time, or that it was all discovered at the same time. Them being teenagers, I can believe they probably got too excited about being accepted to VTA and blabbered to their friends or accidentally spilled stuff they weren't supposed to.

[Anonymous No.]

>>55122826
>ignoring the point

[Anonymous No.]

>>55124118
just like this thread ignores that 22 people debuted into nijisanji from VTA, 14 of them from the public program

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>>55123821
The anon isn't asking Nijisanji to disclose the leak. If 13 people are all guilty of leaking information, then the odds are incredibly high that at least 1 person's leaked information is public. So the anon is asking someone to provide a link to a public leak as proof.

[Anonymous No.]

Deja Vu

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>>55121712
What about when a company says they're cancelling a concert due to covid?

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>>55121382
Past behavior is the greatest indicator of future behavior. Niji lies constantly and everybody knows it. Even niji members make this clear. "Covid huh? Right sure" etc

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>>55124558
Highly likely doesn't mean that it is. If the NDA was something like
>do not discuss the events/ongoings of vta to anyone outside of the program
And you had a bunch of people saying
>LOOK AT ME IM IN VTA!!!!
That alone is enough to violate NDA and that happens in any industry. You work in television and tell people you're gonna be a guest star on a show that made you sign an NDA to appear? Ya get fired.
It literally happened to the original male VA of Byleth in FE 3H, he told a bunch of people that he was Byleth and got canned for it.

It's the unfortunate part of working under NDA, it's incredibly hard for some people not to blab.

[Anonymous No.]

>>55125699
>>55125509
One event doesn't really work for the argument of
>this constantly happens
The AR cancellation was a shit show and affected more than just the livers. AR is a huge deal for nijisanji. But regardless I'll give you that there's one example of a case where there was a blatant lie. That being said, when it comes to JP, there's not really ever been a case that I'm aware of where the company was caught in a lie. That solo example you both are referring to was exclusively en.

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>>55121712
>Definitely have proof
Have you forgotten so quickly anon?

[Anonymous No.]

>>55121712
+1 to social credit score zhenganon

[Anonymous No.]

>>55094413
So what ridiculous rule did they violate this time?

[Anonymous No.]

>>55094631
DECELERATE

[Anonymous No.]

>>55126122
The person who they had proof of every single thing she did and laid it out pretty clearly why she was fired? No. Can't say I have.

[Anonymous No.]

>>55126174
Good argument anon

[Anonymous No.]

its 2023 and 4chan still dont understand what VTA is. holy fuck, they think they are employeed and have contracts

[Anonymous No.]

>>55118615
Imagine if they said nothing when terminating Zaion. 2023 could have been a decent year for Niji

[Anonymous No.]

>>55119761
Kek

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>>55108061
If nijisanji fired employees for bullying, half of nijisanji would be gone already

[Anonymous No.]

>>55126379
Indonesians do not have the ability to learn anon, they spend all their brain cells learning how to perfect the taste of pagpag so they can become Street vendors like their parents before them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>55120214
>>55120377
>Conveniently avoids justifying the exploitative merch arrangement

[Anonymous No.]

>>55104318
>XSOLIA are ESL's from other parts of East Asia, hoping for a K-Pop like effect
The only native english speaker got shitcanned and mismanaged by fresh managers
>GAMERS was such a dud that the project was shelfed and rebranded, with two of the hires being ESL French fucks
Only ones a french fuck, the other is just asian canadian and he speaks english just fine.

[Anonymous No.]

>>55126316
dont you cunts ever get tired of defending the shitty actions of a shitty company?
What the fuck has gone wrong in your brain that you feel a desperate need to defend the honor of a company like this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>55094564
https://files.catbox.moe/iqccrp.jpg

[Anonymous No.]

>>55126859
Zaion/Sayu:
> says that she doesn't claim anything on the firing notice to be false just views it to be overblown
Anons when you point that out
>REEEEEEEEEEE SHIT COMPANY BLACK COMPANY REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[Anonymous No.]

>>55125959
They not only lie but also make their organs lie about stealth suspensions. I do not trust a single word in any of their announcements

[Anonymous No.]

>>55126379
First time I'm hearing about it.

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>>55118394

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>>55126991
How does the shit inside Riku's asshole taste, anon? The point is Niji has proven to be the worst agency to work for after WACTOR if a manager decides they don't like you
>>55126742
Pagpag pagpag pagpag pagpag come up with something funnier please

[Anonymous No.]

>>55126991
That company has been black before Sayu said anything
>Yugo termination (inb4 ITS CALLED A GRADUATION REEEEE)
>AR cancellation
>Mysta complaining about 1% merch cut

[Anonymous No.]

>>55126316
>Terminated
>Kuro Posted a laundry list
>Girl posted response
>Inconsistent enforcement of rules (My senpai did the exact same thing and they weren't told to delete videos)
>Frivolous enforcement of rules (Dee's Nutz)
>Owns up to the roughly 1/5 of actual yabs committed
>Lack of an official response from Kuro

Odd hill to die on, anon.

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>>55126751
How is it exploitative to say that merchandise arrangements are talked about and agreed upon by the livers and how they work on providing a range of different merch? Of course there's always gonna be biases but that's true in any company. Even in Hololive there's a discernible difference in both quality and quantity when it comes to ID and both EN and JP. JP has people selling literal wine bottles and ID has slippers and tote bags.
There's unfortunately always going to be a bias based on what sells where and how much.

[Anonymous No.]

>>55127631
how to tell you are a ENfag without saying anything

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>>55127748
The ruling wasn't really inconsistent, no others had made logos for brands while claiming to be sponsored by them. Others had to wait for approval for a one time stream using their past accounts, and in her own account of events she admits that several of her streams ended up being taken down because she asked for forgiveness not permission while claiming to have permission on stream. She never denies anything about the list, just claims that it's overblown.
Shit, the one thing she tried to underplay that sticks out was the comment about her only liking an anti post one time when she was on her sayu YouTube account liking constant comments about how bad her company was and how bad everyone else was in it.

So, not really a hill to die on so much as a molehill that I might trip over if I'm not paying attention

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>>55127761
Honest answer, it'll feel exploitative because comparison breeds jealousy. Even Kson who was complaining about her previous merch cut rates had to do a double take. In the larger scheme of things, feeling exploited is largely relative.

>>55127932
"Tell me you are a ENfag without saying you're an ENfag" is what you meant to say.

[Anonymous No.]

>>55127489
If they were capable of being creative they wouldn't be nijiniggers

[Anonymous No.]

Filia is alive and thats all that matters

[Anonymous No.]

>>55127489
See. This Post tells me you're feeling a bit called out. I'm sorry your country sucks and that you'll never actually be able to experience what it's like living as a white man in a first world country but thats your problem, not mine.

[Anonymous No.]

>>55127489
my god this post reeks of SEA

[Anonymous No.]

>>55128177
But we honestly don't have much to compare it to. We know that generic merch rates suck but if anything Riku seems to indicate that rates can be adjusted in the future depending on how well you're doing in the company, which is about par for any actual business. You do better, you get paid better. That's how it's supposed to work.

[Anonymous No.]

Honestly I just hope Riku stabs someone next cause it would be entertaining beyond belief to see sisters bend over backwards and explain how, really, the victim and the knife maker are to blame and how he's so magnanimous for not suing them for moral damages.
Although more realistically he'd just get metoo'd with the same outcome.

[Anonymous No.]

>>55128509
muh sisters, muh riku, muh black company. arguments and knowledge about subject? none

[Anonymous No.]

>>55128487
>We have proof that the rates are terrible but Riku-sama promised they could be better! Just work harder!
You're the same kind of useful idiot who defends secret salaries because he thinks it's everybody else getting the short stick but him.

[Anonymous No.]

>>55127932
Yeah the JP side has no issues either. How's roa doing btw

[Anonymous No.]

>>55128604
You newjiniggers don't even know who Raito is or why he got fired, don't talk to me about muh nawledge.

[Anonymous No.]

>>55112462
wasn't one of these fired for trying to use niji to get sex.

[Anonymous No.]

>>55128487
Anon, in a vacuum you're right, but it's a rising list of grievances that have worked against anycolor and their reputation that's been blowing up in their faces. If leaker said 'talent gets paid 1-2%' and the industry standard was 4%, it would not be so universally memed as it is now. We don't have perfect information to make an accurate opinion, but even you have to admit it's looking grim.

It's also a specified industry that cares about it's audience facing employees, every business has different rules


>>55128166
The mistake that was made was pretending to be sponsored by a company that she didn't know was real. Everything else like graphic design was created for the stream presentation. Surely you can see that was not an attempt to deceive anyone, but to up the presentation anon?

>Forgiveness not permission
She owned up to that. The part I refer to was her Genshin stream, which was granted perms, and then told to be taken down near-immediately after the stream was done. Management had gone back on his/her word.

[Anonymous No.]

Another good day to be a Holochad

[Anonymous No.]

>>55129358
Adding to this, Coco said something like "wow i cant believe i complained about 30%' or something to that liking.

[Anonymous No.]

>>55128872
We have proof that the generic merch rates are terrible, that being said with 2 voice packs a month both giving you half the profits, streamlabs giving you half the profits, superchats giving you half the profits after youtubes cut (35%) and merch improving in quality for the livers who've been in the branch longer, there's a reason why literally only two people in the entire branch work a second job with one of those being an unpaid intern.

You're making bank even with poorer merch cuts that likely improve on non generic merch such as anniversary and special events.

[Anonymous No.]

>>55128887
Enjoying the thought that she wasted 3 years of her life

[Anonymous No.]

>>55129712
You've convinced us anon, I can't imagine why anyone would leave, nijisanji is a dream come true

[Anonymous No.]

>>55129712
>We have proof that the generic merch rates are terrible
As opposed to what, the non-generic ones whose existence is at best implied and for which no proof exists? You wrote an entire fanfic about one non-commital sentence that could've meant anything.

[Anonymous No.]

>>55129358
The problem is we don't know what the industry standards are youre right and it only looks bad when it's talked about to the uninformed. As I've stated before, when you can get by without working a Job while streaming to an audience of under 1k people because you're making enough money off of everything you're doing in nijisanji, it's not really hard to see where merch cuts really aren't that important and if they do improve over time, which is likely judging by how older gens are getting better merch nowadays than acrylics and buttons/badges, it's far from grim.

And yes it'd be one thing if that was her only mistake but she did this more than once. She did it twice on genshin even after being told that she wasn't supposed to use that account, and once on FFXIV which was actually her last stream in the company. She told everyone on it she had permission to use her old account and even played with people from her friends list on it. Turns out, she didn't. Which is why that stream was privated following her suspension.
Zaion is an example of someone who needed a vta program because from debut on she was a disaster. Her literal debut stream had to be privated because she started talking about how great emulation is and playing romhacks on it which are very blatantly against Nintendo's TOS. Which I will say is unfortunate because overall a lot of romhacks improve the games they're based on like the ones for ultra sun and moon

[Anonymous No.]

you cant be "racist" against seaniggers

[Anonymous No.]

>>55118773
It's a start. Now, say it without sounding mad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>55129358
this reputation is limited to the western vtubing sphere where containment breakers systematically spam negative propaganda against anycolor holing while memory holing everything that happens with their company.
>maybe people defending nijisanji should start doing that too
as if it would work when there are people whose mental illness is so deeply ingrained they care more about anti-ing anycolor than doing anything else

>but the talents
some streamers people like would actually be worse off without the backing and support anycolor offers. keep in mind that hololive hires 5 (five) people every two years, maybe. VSPO latest hires had 3 known people and one relatively large player in a niche scene. going indie was a net loss for almost everyone who left (yugo being the only exception.) going to smaller companies is even more pointless.
btw not-zaion average is about to go under 500, no one would want that to happen to the people they like watching. if any zaionigger wanted to prove a point they should've supported her better
the logic being echoed here is that it's better to rot in some 2view hell when joining nijisanji is enough to make some money even if you don't commit full time

answer me, do you think people would be applying to small corpos if they were guaranteed to get into nijisanji? do you think a woman would apply to nijisanji if they were guaranteed to get into hololive? do you think people will let slander against the group as a whole run rampant when it affects their oshi?

[Anonymous No.]

>>55130780
>btw not-zaion average is about to go under 500
Wow, she might go as low as Finana soon, except keeping the lion's share of what she earns, tragic really. I'm sure non-Lulu, not-Gibara, not-Warabeda and not-Gundou are crying themselves to sleep every night as well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>55128958
Yea surely i dont know who the rapist is

[Anonymous No.]

>>55130780
pretty much. the western side only ever talk about nijisanji if its drama or negative news. have you ever seen they talking about koshien, tournaments, concerts, collabs and everything good happening? be it dramafags or holofags, they just ignore it. its not just criticism, its just pure hate.

[Anonymous No.]

>>55130240
the industry standards for cobalt mines in central africa are also industry standards.

Nijisanji is the cobalt mine of Kongo but for vtubing. No clue if others are also fuckin cobalt mines but hololive isnt one, that is proven relativly to blackcolor. Not that they are saints altho comapred to niggersanji just being nice to your talents wether you fuck them over or not is already saint level.

[Anonymous No.]

>>55130780
>where containment breakers systematically spam negative propaganda
kek, meds?

>>55131413
>its just pure hate.
But is it false?

[Anonymous No.]

>>55131303
He didn't rape anyone, newjinigger, nor was he planning too. Stick to ENshits, the JP stuff is a bit too cerebral for you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>55130066
For the most part, a lot of successful people don't. If you take a look at graduations from the main branch. There's been about 26 from debut up until now.

That includes the guy who got fired for being a sex pest, IDs and KRs as well as Meiro. In fact most of the graduations in Jp and jp alone took place primarily during 2019. In Japan and even arguably in en. Most people don't quit. En had two official graduations, one was a girl who got debuted in a vsinger wave as a last minute choice when the person they originally had picked for the role backed out and the other is a menhera who egosa'd any hate comments he could find so he could fuel his depression and anger. The dude has a history of getting one-guyed so often that he dedicated about half an hour of one of his streams to a guy who sent him a superchat telling him he was getting one-guyed

[Anonymous No.]

>>55131533
someone who intend to do it might as well be a rapist
>>55131525
Depending on what it is, yes. The problem like I said is just ignoring anything good happening or not even having any idea and then just hating for hate without having a neutral perspective.

[Anonymous No.]

>>55131496
It's nearly 1:40 am there. Go to bed already. We can argue when you wake up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>55131696
>Nijibrown fails at basic reading comprehension

[Anonymous No.]

>>55131696
>someone who intend to do it might as well be a rapist
that's not how the laws work
>>55131282
and finana still isn't quitting because there's no way up. if zaion, who was entertaining despite all her flaws, is in this situation where do you think finana would be?

[Anonymous No.]

>>55094413
What does the transportation network of the Southern Bay Area have to do with /vt/?

[Anonymous No.]

>>55131957
Again, what's the "situation"? The viewership for nijiEN as a whole is shrinking, do you seriously believe Zaion would be making more now than not-Zaion after anykuro skims off the top? It's not like Zaion was Kotoka in the first place.
>and finana still isn't quitting because there's no way up
Well that's who nijiEN is gonna be left with at the very end precisely for that reason: her, Enna and Kyo

[Anonymous No.]

>>55118066
wrong roco wasn't even 18 when she was doing VTA they very much state that you can be a minor and join as long as your guardian signs off on it.

> 学⽣可(⾼校⽣も可)、学ぶ姿勢のある⽅を募集します。

>※未成年者の⽅がご応募される場合は、親権者の同意が必要となります。

[Anonymous No.]

thank god polyglot girl is safe

[Anonymous No.]

Happy to see holocucks being raped thread after thread of this shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>55131957
>>55131282
Actually speaking, without raids, Finana still does better than not ziaon. Sayu streamed to under 400 people for the first two hours of last nights stream and then she got raided I believe. Which was when her viewership spiked at 630. She steadily lost viewers until another raid which brought her up to her highest amount at 746. Throughout the stream she lost followers and viewers.
>>55132216
Unironically yes. She'd be getting invited to conventions, she'd probably be in the 1k CCV range minimum, she'd be getting 2 voice packs a month and her first non generic merch with the celebration of her first anniversary. As of right now she's doing just a bit better than she was before joining NijiEn.

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>>55132216
>do you seriously believe Zaion would be making more now than not-Zaion after anykuro skims off the top?
hard to say? the narrative being pushed is that the PR fallout from her quitting is also part of why nijiEN is bleeing viewers, how can you theorize the numbers in a scenario where she didn't leave?
and where are those people you're telling me that are going to leave doing that can be considered "up"? back to wageslaving?
Verification not required.

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>>55132671
>the narrative being pushed is that the PR fallout from her quitting is also part of why nijiEN is bleeing viewers, how can you theorize the numbers in a scenario where she didn't leave?
But I thought it was a nothingburger and the majority of nijifans hate Zaion and are glad she's gone? I'll tell you what my friend, you can sit on two chairs at once but you have to be extremely fat to do so, so I hope you're enough of a landwhale to simultaneously argue for and against Zaion's graduation having an impact on niji viewership.
>and where are those people you're telling me that are going to leave doing that can be considered "up"? back to wageslaving?
>Verification not required.
Can you say this part again, but in English? If you're asking about their future prospects, I doubt Elira/Pomu/Selen/Rosemi/Kotoka etc. would have to wageslave a day in their life in the next decade regardless of how their professional relationship with anykuro works out. The only reason it's different for the guys is because for maletubers there's really no way up or sideways because there's nowhere else to go.

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>>55132616
>she'd probably be in the 1k CCV range minimum
So the same 500 in terms of financial impact
>she'd be getting 2 voice packs a month
I see you switched to blatant lying as your last line of defense.

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>>55133599
>everyone on /vt/ is a single person
nice argument, faggot
>because there's nowhere else to go
they can pursue careers outside of vtubing/streaming. how many of them can actually do it to a higher degree of success compared to being in nijisanji?

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>>55133599
NTA but I believe he was talking about the thread narrative and narrative /here/. He didn't mention his personal narrative. Just that the general narrative being pushed is that she was responsible
>>55133799
No? On average the girls get about 2 voice packs a month. There are quite literally two on sale right now and since it's the third day of this month, there'll likely be another one announced in the middle or end of the month. This has been the case through all of 2023.

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>>55133947
There's that narrative but sisters are also saying that Zaion was a nobody and did not have much impact

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>>55134260
Well yeah there're two different narratives but if we assume the first is true it stands to reason that she'd be even more popular if she stayed

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Let's be honest, Zaion could have written anything in her wall of text to paint Anycolor in a bad light and antis here would have eaten it up gladly. Instead she chose to admit everything she did and that was listed in her termination announcement.

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>>55133874
You're the one who tried to strawman me so don't try this "not me though" bullshit
>they can pursue careers outside of vtubing/streaming.
So can anyone. What's your point? Do you even have one?
>how many of them can actually do it to a higher degree of success compared to being in nijisanji?
Why does it have to be higher? If you can earn the same without having to deal with Nijisanji's management which even the "loyalists" publicly bemoan what do they need Nijisanji for exactly?

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>>55133947
>No? On average the girls get about 2 voice packs a month
So they get 24 packs a year? Cause that's what "2 a month" means.

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>>55134778
Minimum, excluding anniversary packs and birthday packs and the possibility of any special event pack coming back, yeah. 24 a year. Also excluding resales of old packs.

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>>55134678
>What's your point? Do you even have one?
yes. stated in my first post. people will keep defending the company because it affects the livers they like, and nobody really wants to see their oshi in a position worse than before.
and using zaion as an example is a bad pick because she was doing way better before she shoot her own feet a few times and yugo is the only example I can think of that got equal or better from leaving and going independent

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>>55126316
>>55126991
do you know what lying by omission is?

>She made a rape joke
and so did many other nijis, is it a bannable offense or not?

>she used her old account
and so did many other nijis, is it a bannable offense or not?

>w-well sure every individual point is bullshit but what about all of them at the same time?
many other nijis did these things and others. The only consistent actions are niji lying and niji banning people over mild jokes both on EN and JP

>noooo Gundou deserved it too, she's a bitchwhorecunt
Seems like you say that about everyone niji fires, you're already blaming 20 people at the same time here. I don't believe you or niji.

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>>55135070
Yugo is also a rare case because yugo is exceptionally talented when it comes to music, captured an HK/Taiwan audience and streams like once a month with no real announcement prior. Not to mention that the streams have about a 50% chance of being unarchived because they're musical streams where songs with copyright are sung.

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>>55135255
chitose and melissa are still around but I wouldn't say they're equal or better than if they were still in nijisanji, but I really like the new direction chitose's music took

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This thread makes me start to wonder if anycolor actually has paid shills on vt

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>>55134950
Strange, there's only two voice packs for Kotoka on sale right now in the official store and one of those is from December 2022. Unless you can show me the receipts for the 24+ voicepacks a year figure I'm not just gonna take you at your word.

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>>55135233
You didn't watch a single Zaion stream, she was a yab machine and she made the decision to terminate the contract because she didn't want to change

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>>55121712
you

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>>55135498
>"they're defending a company that's not cover, they must've been paid!"
meds

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>>55135233
Why do you space things like a redditor?
Regardless of your weird ass spacing, you answer your own question with a strawman you tried to make.
Everyone else who has done these things did not do them within such a short succession of one another. Not to mention that stuff like using old accounts has only ever been approved for a one stream basis and it took months of negotiations with a manager to show it on stream. Everyone else starts from scratch and levels their way up through either cash or gameplay on both FFXIV and genshin. If you have any evidence to the contrary feel free to provide it but if I'm not mistaken the only other person to ever play with their other accounts was Aia for a one off stream.

As far as gundou goes, gundou has had more antis in Jp than any other liver and while I found her funny personally, I don't think she's corporate material. The girl was a walking yab machine and lied about so many things that even a stream about her taking a vacation in Italy got it's comments removed when they pointed out they could hear the sounds of a Japanese garbage truck in the bg.

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>>55135558
Next one launches on August 9th. I shouldn't necessarily say "excluding resales" because what I meant was that resales can further add to the amount of voice packs currently on sale

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>>55135836
Nice argument anon

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>>55135639
NTA.
I couldn't catch her live and when I wanted almost everytime her VOD was taken down and with a bit of luck it got put up again after the yabs were cut. It became a meme.
Yet she thought it was a good idea to lecture management about her Genshin account.

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>>55135845
Don't watch big corpo chuubas but them being the first thing you pointed fingers at is telling

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>>55136052
I caught her FFXIV stream. Complimented her on her gameplay and said she made it fun to watch.
Went to bed, couldn't watch the vod in the morning cuz it was gone.

Turns out she'd been playing with her friends on an account she never had permission to stream and then deleted the vod because of it.

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>>55135981
So one in December, one in July and one in August. She might be on pace to start getting one a month but where's the two a month coming from?

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>>55135845
Rent. Is. Free.

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>>55136289
Usually before the month is up they announce another voice pack that starts it's sale iirc the summer road trip voice packs started sale right as the maids and butler's one ended. There's also usually a resale of another pack during that time

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>55121132
>He has no real answer so he has to resort to name calling
Pathetic. Get fucked, no (You) for your sorry ass.

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>>55113240
If 70% of your candidates are undesirables who need to be terminated for rule violations before the program has run its course I can only think you've taken the Wagner approach to candidate selection.

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>>55094413
Who will survive the next round of VirtualTournamentArena?
Tune in next month

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>>55136602
Don't worry I'll count it anyways. I'll just assume you were too retarded to properly give a (You)

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>>55094413
They touched the grass despite the "don't touch the grass" sign

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>>55135836
okay I laughed

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>>55113675
>if all those tards "violated the rules"
Anon. I want you to use your head. What rule could possibly exist that 75% of your employees suddenly break it all at once, all together, at the same exact time?
They made it the fuck up, you moron. Or at the very least, they somehow tricked them into violating the "rules" like telling them that one of the rules doesn't apply anymore, but then firing them immediately when they broke it. Something like saying "you can tell your family what you do for us so they don't get worried about you", but then immediately firing everyone that did as a breach of their secrecy clause.
Chink companies operate like this and do underhanded shit all the fucking time and Niji operates exactly like a chink company.

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>>55094413
Reminder that "rules violations" in Nijisanji amount to making incompetent managers butthurt

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>>55134636
Maybe because that was the right thing to do??
If she lied about anything in that document she would've been called out, sued to financial death and her career would be beyond over

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>>55137681
Oh no imagine getting sued by Riku
The horror

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>>55137561
>>55123286

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seaniggers lost

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nijiniggers lost

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>>55121551
It is indefensible, that's why you see nothing but seethe and shit flinging from the nijikeks in this thread.

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nijisanji won

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>he resorts to having the last word because he got btfo'd
Sad!

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N I J I S A N J I W O N

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VTA is not Nijisanji but it belongs to Anycolor.

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>>55113144
This is why VTA is just a scam
Paying less (PNGtuber), and easily removable when they're no longer useful (aka "The Useful idiots")

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>>55116714
>And yet hololive doesn't. Whack ain't it?
https://animefrontier.com/guests/
retard