/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

I remember when there was more cross-pollination between Hololive and Nijisanji. Nijis such as Lulu, Ars, Gibara, Roa, etc had decent sized EOP holofag fanbases. What happened? Why do people only care about hololive now? NijiEN didn't change anything.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5480540
idk but ars is cute

[Anonymous No.]

>>5480540
pls.... i dont want ARS IS A WHORE or WHY DIDN'T LULU CALL LIZE ON HER BIRTHDAY threads....

[Anonymous No.]

>>5480540
This dumb bitch happened

[Anonymous No.]

>>5480540
Didn't read your post OP but Ars is cute

[Anonymous No.]

Ars is very cute

[Anonymous No.]

>>5480540
HoloEN beat them to the punch. Now that there were chuubas that people could understand without waiting for the clippers, most EOPs stuck with the people they can understand.
Which is a shame since NijiHolo is love and Ars a cute.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5480540
Apex killed Niji's fanbase.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5480680
This is pretty much my assessment too. I wonder then if the introduction of NijiEN will revive the old paradigm, because EOPs now have a gateway to Nijisanji.

[Anonymous No.]

Hololive English, Ollie and Reine getting their slices of the EOP pie, clipfags and aspiring vtubers GTFO Nijisanji because your money is in another castle, Roa-Meiro incident, Gibara's graduation, Lulu took a month off.
Simple as.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5480540
People realized Nijis are boring and dropped them, I guess.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5480540
>NijiEN didn't change anything.
It did though. Being the 3rd most popular vtuber group in the west behind Hololive and VShojo means they're making a difference. Even subs to NijiJP have seen a boost lately, as well as more Nijisanji clips in general, not just of EN. And that's with just 3 EN livers. They might not directly compete with Hololive, but Nijisanji still has a bright future.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5480540
This but with Vtuber, and normalfags are holobronies

[Anonymous No.]

>>5480803
>le stickman drawing that has never been right
>muh holobronies
stop posting anytime

[Anonymous No.]

>>5480540
A lot of the current hololive eop fanbase don't even know nijisanji exists, coco and later holoen brought a lot of people who never cared about vtubers before

[Anonymous No.]

>>5480803
Found the virgin simping for women he doesn't understand.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5480803
>instead of moving over 1 table they throw a tantrum and leave
so deep and edgy

[Anonymous No.]

>>5480540
Dunno, but I still like Ars.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5480838
you post this exact same shit when your holos collab with anitubers

[Anonymous No.]

>>5480885
>p-please respond

[Anonymous No.]

Wish ars finished gta

[Anonymous No.]

>>5480711
Bro nijien clips barely break 10k, most eops still sticking to holos

[Anonymous No.]

>>5480540
because theyre fuckign boring lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>5480540
Two out of four chuubas you listed have graduated. And arguably. Haachama and Ina outplay Lulu and Ars respectively on the field EOPs care about.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5481214
>nijien clips barely break 10k
I don't think that is true. Looking at that Elira clip channel around half of their 40 clips have over 10k views and there is even one over 200k.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5481613
>two
Only Gibara graduate from that list.

[Anonymous No.]

let the EOP stick to holo, our oshis will be more pure then.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5481704
2/10 made me responf

[Anonymous No.]

>>5481698
Roa is not coming back, anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5481698
We need to come to term with the fact roa is not coming back anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5481876
She is not officially graduated and she is not a meme ghost like Kataribe. As long her name is in the list, she can return anytime. Right now I suspect she need to focus on study first.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5481940
Regardless, for the purpose of the original topic, not putting out any content for about 8 months has no difference from actual graduation. Besides, even graduated nijis came back, so the difference is quite small.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5482019
She puts out content every month if you are willing to pay for it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5482028
And how exactly that can be used to gain traction among EOPs?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5482045
It can't I am just autistic and felt like correcting something that makes literal material difference to the point at hand.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5482058
Eh, fair enough. I didn't know she is still doing paid stuff, so good job.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5482058
>literal
little even

[Anonymous No.]

>>5480540
Don't 90% of JP 2424 hate their EOP fanbases anyway? Why would anyone want to watch people that hate them and want them gone?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5482088
Never heard anyone in Nijisanji saying something like that. All of them that I have seen address the topic are happy that people enjoy them all over the world.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5482045
>implying EOP even watch Roa to begin with.
Most vtard Holobrony only know her for MeirovsRoa incident. And used her as ammo for smear campaign against Nijisanji. Number of EOP who watched her was very very small.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5482126
She had a few clips at the time of Holo Azur Lane collab, so some certainly did. Not the newer batch, sure, but still.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5480590
Ars is a whore

[Anonymous No.]

>>5480590
But why DIDN'T Lulu call Lize on her birthday? Does she even care about Nijisanji???

[Anonymous No.]

>>5482124
I had been banned on multiple chats a year ago after posting a single message in English. It was pretty innocuous stuff too, like "this looks good".
It was the point where most Nijiniggers lost me.
Ars still cute

[Anonymous No.]

>>5482221
No you weren't.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5482221
i smell BS

[Anonymous No.]

>>5482088
No. They hate people who come there and ask absolutely dumb old drama and sometimes outright bullshit that can be searched easily in the archives.
>Is Lulu graduated?
>why Lulu in hiatus?
>tell me about MeiroRoa incident
>why Gibara graduated?
>why Kuzuha/Chihiro/Hisupi/Gundou get lot of dislike?
>is it true Sasaki Saku bulied Moruru out?
Repeat ad infinitum

[Anonymous No.]

>>5482237
Yes I was. That alien cunt's Nobetta stream was where I just fucking gave up and just stuck to Ars and HSKW

>>5482261
buy deodorant

[Anonymous No.]

>>5482221
Funny you should mention that, because I got banned from Rena's chat during the 3D stream for saying "You look great!"

[Anonymous No.]

>>5482221
Why do you even lie in internet, nigger?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5480540
One word, Hako.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5482276
Nobody goes into a chat and asks that. Moreover, none of the JPs would understand that, anyway. It's barely even English.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5482237
>>5482261
>>5482304
2434 defense force had a nerve struck, I see.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5480540
>cross-pollination
Big holocringe right there

[Anonymous No.]

>>5482276
Anon is referring to the livers not this kuso board you faggot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5482126
I liked the clip with her talking about Japan's declining birthrate.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5482295
How many yuan did Cover paid you, holobronies?
>>5482355
>Make absolutely ridiculous slander on other vtubers
>surprised why peoples get mad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5482221
>can't name a single one bc he doesn't know which livers know english enough to avoid namimg them
grass

[Anonymous No.]

>>5482402
>people come out and say they were unjustly banned
>NUH UH IT NEVER HAPPENED
and you ask stupid questions like "why do people only care about hololive now"

[Anonymous No.]

>>5482443
Having actually watched a wide range of Nijisanji vtubers for years I have never seen anyone get banned merely for using English in any chat. So of course I am going to say its bullshit coming from some obvious tribalist using terms like nijiniggers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5482383
Roa was a leagues ahead of her time. She KNOWS Japan needs superior foreign seed in order to survive as a culture. They hated her for telling the truth, though, and Meiro was sent to destroy her career.
Sad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5482407
I don't give a fuck to remember their names, but I remember their avatars/gimmicks

Alien cunt
Weird vampire boy
The teacher that kissed with HSKW
Some moeblob with stars for irises
and if you bothered checking the thread Nijinigger >>5482294 I still like some.

>>5482402
>unga niji tribe gud
>bunga holo tribe bad
>ooga if no niji tribe then holo tribe booga

[Anonymous No.]

>>5482496
>nijiniggers
That was one dude, and it's justified anger. Of course, there's no need to actually engage with you since you've become super defensive and aren't arguing in good faith.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5481214
>>5481662
Yeah they're decently popular in terms of vtubers. I think the only way NijiEN gets more popular is if they collab with HoloEN/vshoujo in the near future or someone who's high profile in the west joins NijiEN like what happened with Gura.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5482443
Are you telling me a vtuber banned someone for posting in English? Do you expect me to believe in your bullshit? Or perhaps you did get banned but for entirely different reason like spamming or turning chatroom into your personal discord channel? Tell me, how many Yuan did Cover paid you, holobrony?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5482443
>people
you mean you
>unjustly banned
no one will believe you

[Anonymous No.]

>>5482564
yeah, your immediate resort to shitflinging makes nijisanji look real good, dude
please, no more, you'll steal hololive's entire audience

[Anonymous No.]

>>5482535
you couldn't even try

[Anonymous No.]

>>5482545
Yeah someone who can't even name the members, refers to them as nijiniggers, and makes the claim that 90% of them hate EOPs is supposed to be arguing in good faith. Just the usual common bullshit of people that know nothing about Nijisanji making shit up about them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5482598
Okay, dude. I'm not here to convince some retard on a slavic bladesmithing forum. Ignore it all you want, but shit like this is why 2434 isn't popular with English speakers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5482221
>type "cute" in a Niji stream
>black helicopters start flying over my house

[Anonymous No.]

>>5480540
2019 clippers were more spread out between Nijisanji and Hololive and was mostly done because they wanted to support the talents.Now everyone is clipping Hololive because that's where the money is.
And EOPs only care about clips.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5482659
Enjoy that 50 cents you just earned, buddy. Hope the entire EN audience was worth it.

[Anonymous No.]

My favorite nijis either played Apex nonstop or didn't stream as much anymore

[Anonymous No.]

>>5480540
>What happened?
Pekora, Coco, HoloEN

[Anonymous No.]

>>5482671
>blatantly lies
>ugh all nijifags do is gatekeep, their comments on a croatian cat shaving forum are really blocking their success with EOPs

[Anonymous No.]

>>5482737
mine makes people seethe by winning her own tournaments

[Anonymous No.]

>>5482535
>implying I'm from Nijitribe.
Unlike you Holobronies, I watched VSPO, Indies, Phase Connect, Eilene Gakuen and many more

>Alien cunt
Sakura Ritsuki? She welcome En comment in her video description.
>Weird vampire boy
Kuzuha have some English comments from time to time.
>The teacher that kissed with HSKW
Same Kuzuha. Nobody get banned.
>Some moeblob with stars for irises
I guess this is Momo Azuchi. I sometimes post in English too but never get banned or anything.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5482805
ogey

[Anonymous No.]

>>5482824
Funny how a HoloEN got me into playing Apex. Still hate watching most Apex streams, though.
I don't want Toko or Melissa to play Apex but I'd definitely watch if they did

[Anonymous No.]

>>5482920
>Melissa
I meant Furen. Fuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>5482953
You meant Melissa, you faggot.
>>>/lgbt/

[Anonymous No.]

>>5481704
I thought only holos have purityfags?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5482971
I do watch her but I really did mean Furen...

[Anonymous No.]

Do you nijifags actually want the EOP audience?
I think everything's fine as it is tbhonest

[Anonymous No.]

>>5483041
it would be fine, more clips are being made lately after nijiEN debut. alot of nijiKRs have done far more english than usual too
just sick of liars on this board, i'll gatekeep them

[Anonymous No.]

>>5483041
Clearly not, they're up in arms over the slightest signs of discontentment. Like that one Asian country that routinely censors all negative feedback...I've forgotten it's name, but you get the gist.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5480590
>ARS IS A WHORE
She only has eyes for one guy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5482559
New EN members will boost their popularity too. The current selection (LazuLight) is good, but they have limited appeal because there's only 3 of them. Later EN waves will fill in more niches, offer more things for audiences to be interested in.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5482221
>It was pretty innocuous stuff too, like "this looks good".
Post the exact message you wrote.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5483465
"hey baby, did you ever have your asshole licked by a fatman in an overcoat?"

[Anonymous No.]

>>5483465
Yes, I'm sure everyone remembers exactly what they were typing on chats more than a year ago.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5482535
>>5482221
>>5482088
Answer me you dumb lying nigger.
>>5482887

[Anonymous No.]

>>5483499
You're a retard, but at least you've got some good taste in movies

[Anonymous No.]

>>5483465
"this looks good, you better appreciate me commenting in your channel you whore"

[Anonymous No.]

>>5483511
>>5482887

[Anonymous No.]

>>5483515
First, that's at least two people. Second, you know you didn't actually ask a question, right, ESLchama?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5483575
Dumb fuck ESL holobrony. I exposed your bullshit, now I want explanation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5483625
Holy shit, strike a nerve and look at the buzzwords tumble forth. You didn't expose anything, you just posted a few chuubas who you insist are totally cool with EOPs. You didn't ask any questions, either - again!

[Anonymous No.]

>>5483680
>You didn't expose anything, you just posted a few chuubas who you insist are totally cool with EOPs.
I posted all vtubers you listed here that banned you from their chat.
>>5482535
>Alien cunt
>Weird vampire boy
>The teacher that kissed with HSKW
>Some moeblob with stars for irises
And I posted proof that all the vtubers you listed there are okay with English comment. I even comment some of them in English and never get banned.
So either explain yourself or kys.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5483984
You didn't post anything about Yorumi Rena which is whom I referred to, though. You should keep track of who you're replying to instead of wildly flailing your arms around.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5482058
makes a difference though that you pointed out a tick anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>5480803
This image post is dumb.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5484097
Not him but I have just went and looked at her 3D chat and during her cover of Make it! I can see EOPs commenting just fine. "making drama lol" "Cute indeed" "kawaii" "wow" "awwww" "wooooooo" and so on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5482221
Picrel dragged on for days and none of them were banned.
You can open almost any stream and it will have comments in English. It would be a pretty big deal if a ban just for commenting in English ever happened.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5484097
>>5484506
Nice try, tribalfag.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5480540
what happened ?
hololive moments pumps clip daily while RollCakeBoy can only do so much by himself, so algorithm pick one and never look any other way ever since

[Anonymous No.]

EOP infested thread who don’t actually watch any JP streamss

[Anonymous No.]

>>5482559
Holoen guaranted to mogs any high profile talents out there, just like Shachi recently

[Anonymous No.]

>>5483278
That'd be me

[Anonymous No.]

>>5480540

[Anonymous No.]

I really liked Ars at one point, she was the first Vtuber I ever got into but all she ever does is Minecraft and Apex and I hate those games.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5486691
Ask her to play a different game?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5486691
U wot m8? Ars is famous for her Minecraft autism. You cannot like Ars while hating Minecraft.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5486691
Shut up nigger. Nothing helped my insomnia better than sleeping to cute Ars minecraft streams. It's like laying on a bed of fluffy pillows.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5480540
Japan cares more about Niji and the rest of the world about Holo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5482221
This is true. Nijisanji used to filter out anything that's not japanese in their live chats. The sentiment came from YouTube algorithm favouring EOP comments over JP ones. They wanted to avoid alienating their own JP viewers.

When pewdiepie's fanbase vandalized a nijilivers chat. Instead of guiding their new audience of tourists, Nijisanji instead chose to completely ignore them. Lots of missed opportunities. It's a shame honestly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5487827
>When pewdiepie's fanbase vandalized a nijilivers chat. Instead of guiding their new audience of tourists, Nijisanji instead chose to completely ignore them.
To be fair, the one they vandalized are extreme FF14 autist. Rin doesn't care about anything other than playing her favorite game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5482887
Vtuber whore spotted. Everyone, It seems this anon is still in his honeymoon phase. Why waste all that time watching dumpster tier indie level vtubers. It's time to reflect anon, you don't actually like them. I pitty you honestly. You sound like someone who watches the kardashians and unironicaly calls it peak reality tv show. Be ashamed of who You are.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5488159
People who watch Hololive is the same stock with people who watch Kardashian. A fucking NPC.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5488159
Look at this fucking numberfag. Not every talented and interesting streamer or vtuber is going to be part of the top company.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5488312
ogey

[Anonymous No.]

>>5488332
This is because they're not actually talented or interesting, you're just a groomer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5486691
Miko brought me into the rabbit hole, but I found Ars more entertaining. She was the second vtuber I ever watched. It sucks that the algorithm completely removed her from my recommended. But it's completely understandable. Clippers generally don't like Nijisanji. Nijisanji lacks the appeal for someone's to full invest themselves in it. While Miko dragged me into the Holohole and introduced me to a whole mythos of fun and loveable characters. Ars completely fazed into obscurity. This is the state of Nijisanji and why they'll continue to fail.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5485362
Shachi is a more boring copy of Gura, I don't want that shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5488393
let me correct you, you have the attention span of a toddler who doesn't understand japanese but get easily entertained by uguu cute girl noises.

you probably get by watching clips and think that nijisanji is failing without knowing what they actually do outside streaming.

holobronies and their retarded bubble they live in, also pic related

[Anonymous No.]

>>5488393
>>5488159
Extremely based.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5480540
Roa...

[Anonymous No.]

>>5488312
Where is the correlation nigga? Do better anon. cuz right now you sound fucking retarded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5489109
Not that anon, but it's true that Hololive has a huge advantage in clips at the moment. It's harder for EOPs to get invested in Nijisanji when clippers prioritize Hololive, missing out on lots of Nijisanji moments and in turn context for all of the myriad relationships in Nijisanji. And this is on top of the YT algorithm pushing Hololive so much. I don't think Nijisanji is failing, I think they're inclining especially now with EN bringing in new viewers. But they have one hell of an uphill fight.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5480540
>cross-pollination
nice bait I almost replied seriously

[Anonymous No.]

>>5488393
>rabbit hole
>>5480540
>cross-pollination
go back to where you came from redditors

[Anonymous No.]

>>5489195
She'll be back one day.
Or maybe she has just made Bangiras into her fatherbf for the last few months.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5488393
>It sucks that the algorithm completely removed her from my recommended
You are probadly a EOP clipnigger, that is why youtube AI only recommend you more EOP clips of holo, my feed is clean of holo recommend, there's no filthy holoshit on sight

[Anonymous No.]

clear your video history to get better recommends, easy

[Anonymous No.]

>>5483278
redpill me on this one guy, he sounds based

[Anonymous No.]

>>5491285
Eibo?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5491285
me

[Anonymous No.]

>>5491285
ex albio is her boyfriend and she beats him up every day and they hold hands afterwards

[Anonymous No.]

>>5491285
>>5483278
That would be me

[Anonymous No.]

>>5484563
90% of these comments deserved the ban. I hate cringe unrelated shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>5491404
https://youtu.be/YWqfspXyiSk?t=12

[Anonymous No.]

>>5480540
It's just a lot more new people with exposure to Hololive only. Back during the era you're talking about most of the "big" Vtubers were 100k subs or less.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5489270
>I think they're inclining
This is why everybody should at least stop by the numbers thread every once in a while even if you aren't a numberfag. They are very much reclining. I think it might be over for them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5485190
RollCakeBoy has been inactive for almost a year. He basically stopped after the Roa hiatus, he posted like 2 or 3 videos a few months after that but never came back.
For some reason that are a ton of clippers that only clip one person, like a dedicated channel.
People that clip more people/compilations are Ajasapa, Mofumofu, Neko Mikuri (does like 40% niji rest holos since he is already an official niji translator) etc. I see japanese niji clips all that time, have good views instantly. I'll give an example, the recent saga, where Ars fell asleep while playing minecraft. So Belmond went near her and made a bunch of noise contraptions to wake her up. That clip in japanese had like 100k views in 6 hours, but the english version has 8k as of this moment. It's weird. I'm more of a Niji kinda guy, it helps that I'm going to marry Ange but still

[Anonymous No.]

>>5487827
I for one, think it's annoying as fuck to see the Holos that speak NO FUCKING ENGLISH, besides "Hello", have 40-50% of their chat be in English.

[Anonymous No.]

>I for one, think it's annoying as fuck to see the Holos that speak NO FUCKING ENGLISH, besides "Hello", have 40-50% of their chat be in English.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5492125
>For some reason that are a ton of clippers that only clip one person, like a dedicated channel.
Because you can watch some Nijisanji vtubers and basically never get exposure to those outside their clique, except for the big events.
With Hololive you can't escape the others. They are always mentioned even if your oshi rarely collabs.

And then you have Animare which is a different story altogether, because it is small enough to make it easy to know everyone.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5482979
I'm a purityfag for Sasaki. One day she'll marry me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5489270
you think they're inclining because you're seeing a huge increase in clips but their numbers are the same or even declining. no one is seeing a market increase from clips other than livers who already had tiny numbers and just got noticed again, that no one other than me and 3 other anons talk about on this board, not even nijiJP and those are the ones getting more matomes

[Anonymous No.]

>>5480621
MiYagoo?! That bitch!

[Anonymous No.]

>>5489270
>sasaki last membership posts likes
>85
>aqua (a person she bullied) last membership post likes
>1.3k
I like some nijis but let's be honest here. Hololive is on another level of popularity.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5480540
Would benefit nijis now if Hololive ever collabs with their girls but idk if they themselves want to pander EOPs and neglecting their long time JOP fans. Wouldn't surprise me if one of them starts doing duolingo reps and collabs with their overseas branch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5488393
>Nijisanji and why they'll continue to fail.
How can you "continue to fail" if you're not failing to begin with?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5482088
I have only watched Shizuka Rin on twitch and she doesn't seem to hate english comments/viewers. She even has a speech-to-text translator though it's not very reliable. Anyway, she seems pretty mellow and I like her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5493700
Failing in reaching the same level of popularity against Hololive when the company had given them a lot creative freedom, tech and opportunities to get viewers to watch them. They aren't doing too well against HL atm and would continue to do so. Pumping more vtubers wouldn't help them either. Even if they successfully get another Senzawa for their EN branch, it wouldn't work as much cause Gura had 20k+ people watching her on the first week.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5480540
Taiwan

[Anonymous No.]

>>5493700
They very much are failing. Stop by the numbers thread to find out why. All the data is there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5494001
>>5494077
Consider vtuber 3Ds for a moment. What makes one 3D better than another? The difference in tech, obviously. Better tech and better studio set-ups cost more money.
Why, then, do the supposedly "failing" Nijisanji have better 3D tech than the worldwide phenomenon that is Hololive? Are Cover so woefully incompetent that they're completely mismanaging their supposed wealth or do the massive subcounts and viewcounts just don't translate to that much profit?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5494862

[Anonymous No.]

>>5494862
The girls 3D is actually quite good, I think the holostars 3D is what cover half-assed judging from the Roberu 3D debut

[Anonymous No.]

>>5494862
hololive apparently gets a ton of big sponsorships and have the biggest SC earners so yes it does sound like cover mismanagement that their 3D isn't the best in the game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wP3aTE-qRh8
why does this VA not under a company have better 3D? you'd think cover would shell out money for better 3D.

[Anonymous No.]

nijiniggers ruined their reputation with constant bait posting

[Anonymous No.]

>>5495324
/vt/ nijiniggers are eop rejects. /jp/ nijifans are a people of peace.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5495386
this will get replies

[Anonymous No.]

>>5494862
Their 3D is more or less the same but a point goes to niji after watching Fuwa's 3D debut. But still, better 3D tech or better models doesn't really do that much other than appeal to newer audiences on the shiny new things. Niji's new vtuber academy or all the tech they're bringing in feels like a last ditch attempt to survive in these coming days. They just can't seem to maintain viewer retention or long term fanbases. On HL side, the direction they're going with HoloAlt is better by investing and expanding the lore with possible animes, games or mangas instead of doing Idolshit all year. All in all, Nijis need to adapt, collab with HL and pander EOPs even if it's little.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5494077
The numbers thread literally show the contrary considering they are the only ones who can somehow compete with hololive and can have streams with over 30k.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5495651
holy shit imagine being inside a fucking bubble to think that nijisanji is in a last ditch effort, christ.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5495125
It's not just personal 3D model quality. They have multiple studios that can be seamlessly combined to display upwards of 10 fully-tracked 3Ds at once, as well as AR tech that allows stuff like pic related.
>>5495651
>Niji's new vtuber academy or all the tech they're bringing in feels like a last ditch attempt to survive in these coming days.
Imagine if the situation was flipped. Holo's falling behind Niji, but has great 3D tech and various plans for the future. Would you be able to say the same about Holo in that situation? Of course not. And that's what makes this nothing but a rrat supported solely by Holotribalist hopium.

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>>5493959
same.

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>>5495651
You are on crack if you don't think the Niji 3D's are way better

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>>5495651
you can say that nijisanji is stagnant in the JP side but to say they're attempting last ditch efforts just because they aren't doing hololive numbers is braindead

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>>5496364
seriously whats with holofags and their retarded shit when they know next to nothing on how nijisanji operates.

Hell during nijifes they flexed their AR tech, which mind you was fucking developed in-house.

how do fucking holobronies live inside the retarded "muh family" bubble

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>>5497422
holofags getting mogged by nijisanjis tech has always been the case

https://twitter.com/ThisIsNijisanji/status/1407344231237226510

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>>5494862
>Are Cover so woefully incompetent
Who's gonna tell him, anons?

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>>5497422
Tiny audience lol

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>>5496928
>you can say that nijisanji is stagnant in the JP side
More like it's at its capacity of Japan market, the holo's numbers are mostly from oversea, if you look at niji's number now and last year you will know they also grown larger but not at the hololive rate, it's the Japan market's rate

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>>5480803
autismposting

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>>5487827
no, Nijisanji did not filter live chat, it's true that youtube algorithm tend to put EN comments at the top on the archives and some livers talked about it but they never forbid anyone to comment in english

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>>5488393
>It sucks that the algorithm completely removed her from my recommended
>not subbed
>didn't press the bell button
it's ok, Niji don't need retards like you

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>>5501018
covid restrictions, tickets were limited I couldn't get mine

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>>5480540
>Why do people only care about hololive now?
Very distinct avatars and chuubas with easily differentiable voices and personalities that an EOP can pick up.
Also, DOOG, Fox, and Horny Pirate all picked up a lot of EOP early on and then Coco cemented their place. Niji didn't go viral for EOP so they didn't get EOP. Now it's a little too late with Holos basically owning a large portion of the vtuber buisness and most people will go through Hololive to become exposed to Nijisanji

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>>5491880
That exercise ball tech is something else

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>>5503461
>Very distinct avatars and chuubas with easily differentiable voices and personalities that an EOP can pick up.
You can say that to almost all Nijisanji. Suzuhara Lulu, Lize Helesta, Ange, Inui Toko, Roa, Chihiro, Chaika, Puti, Momo etc have distinct avatar and unique personality. The real reason here is not about talent, design and personality of the chuuba. But the community within the chat. Hololive is already full of EOP comments who spam memes and turning it into personal discord channel. And that attracts more EOP to flock to that channel because they feel welcomed. Meanwhile Nijisanji have higher entrance level. The chat are all full of Japanese. There is occasionally some English comments here and there but they are rare. So that make EOP feel alone and alienated. And they go away because they feel they are not welcomed. Lulu, Lize and Toko are one of the most subbed Livers in Niji and have highest amount of EOP fan because they have lot of En post in their chat

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>>5480540
Why do you want another shitty EOP fanbases? Niji JP doesnt need EOPs at all. They should stick to Hololive.

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>>5480540
Elira did stuff with Hoshikawa already, I don't care about tribalists.

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>>5480540
Niji has never tried to pander to EOPs outside of NijiEN. This is literally baby steps in the market. Even Lulu has very few EOPs.

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There is no reason for Kuzuha to pander to EOPs when he and Kanae do just fine without pandering. If it ain't broke...

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It's a shame hololive doesn't have a big titty jrpg fan.

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>>5510567
What is their EOP fanbase secret?

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It's a shame people feel like they have to watch either/or. I like Pekora and Lulu. So fuck you.

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>>5480540
As always western whores ruin everything. At least eastern whores can pretend not to be whores behind their avatars.

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>>5480803
>all these secondaries posting their seething replies

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>>5480838
do holofags only have this level of self-awareness

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>>5480803
This hit a nerve, huh?

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>>5480540
I don't support any Vtuber agency who still works with China.

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>>5511322
Good. Now you can abandon Cover and watch 774inc, Re:Act, Animare, Eilene Family and watch indies.

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>>5488312
If Hololive is Kardashians, then Niji is Total Bellas lmao.

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>>5511547
not him but go back you fucking chinky chinky chink chink insect.

you also abandon japanese contents and agencies. nearly all japanese support taiwan, not you chink bugs

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>>5512281
Wew lad. Does Holobronies have this level of self-awareness? Hololive become massive because of Chink. They collab with a chink game like Azure Lane and Muse Dash and become famous because of that. All clips you watched are made by chinks. All Hololive girls have Bilibili account and Aqua and Fubuki stream there often before Taiwan incidents. And now, Cover kicked out Coco because pressure of chink investors and Cover want to reenter chink market. By watching Hololive, you basically consuming chink shit.

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>>5512281
Btw this is mandatory chink copypasta. Save your time, Cover shill.
动态网自由门 天安門 天安门 法輪功 李洪志 Free Tibet 六四天安門事件 The Tiananmen Square protests of 1989 天安門大屠殺 The Tiananmen Square Massacre 反右派鬥爭 The Anti-Rightist Struggle 大躍進政策 The Great Leap Forward 文化大革命 The Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution 人權 Human Rights 民運 Democratization 自由 Freedom 獨立 Independence 多黨制 Multi-party system 台灣 臺灣 Taiwan Formosa 中華民國 Republic of China 西藏 土伯特 唐古特 Tibet 達賴喇嘛 Dalai Lama 法輪功 Falun Dafa 新疆維吾爾自治區 The Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region 諾貝爾和平獎 Nobel Peace Prize 劉暁波 Liu Xiaobo 民主 言論 思想 反共 反革命 抗議 運動 騷亂 暴亂 騷擾 擾亂 抗暴 平反 維權 示威游行 李洪志 法輪大法 大法弟子 強制斷種 強制堕胎 民族淨化 人體實驗 肅清 胡耀邦 趙紫陽 魏京生 王丹 還政於民 和平演變 激流中國 北京之春 大紀元時報 九評論共産黨 獨裁 專制 壓制 統一 監視 鎮壓 迫害 侵略 掠奪 破壞 拷問 屠殺 活摘器官 誘拐 買賣人口 遊進 走私 毒品 賣淫 春畫 賭博 六合彩 天安門 天安门 法輪功 李洪志 Winnie the Pooh 劉曉波动态网自由门

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>>5480540
HoloEN has exclusive catering of a corporate English branch for 8 months uncontested, which fostered their own community and whittled down the old Niji clipfag EOPs from like 2019

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>>5492733
I thought Sasaki was supposed to be a slut? That might just be all the r34 I've seen of her tho

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>>5514103
What? No. Sasaki is Nintendo autist who literally quit because she cannot play Nintendo on stream and come back when AnyColor got the permission. Also she is more Yankee like Deron.

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>>5510271
>nijis don't have EOPs because they don't have EOPs
Amazing, what a thoughtful post. You realize Hololive didn't start with EOPs too right? Same thing applied to them once upon a time.

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>>5514103
yeah, like the rest of the nijigirls she is a MASSIVE whore

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>>5514550
hololive has EOPs now, though, whereas niggersanji doesn't

ergo, hololive is superior and any statement to the contrary is nijinigger cope

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>>5514620
ok but which of these whores are secretly inexperienced cuties. I like this type of gap moe.

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>>5488954
Trust the system, bro.
Gura was hard to watch before she joined Hololive.

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>>5514681
Definitely Ange.

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>>5514725
I thought being a dense protag that wants to get married was her schtick.

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>>5480803
The fact that this makes faggots mad means it's good. Keep posting this. Seriously.

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>>5514620
Hoshikawa is a pure, good girl

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>>5514749
You should watch the clip where she was hospitalized and scolded by Doctor for having a horrible lifestyle. There is no way a person who have bf/gf have that kind of lifestyle. So it safe to say she is single and maybe virgin.

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>>5514550
But that is really the case with Holo current audience. EOP community attract more EOP community. Same with Russian for Botan and Himari. And spic for Hirasaka Mel. Chink for Ayame-mama and Mea. If you really want to talk about how they get EOP audience to begin with then we have to deep dive in Azure Lane collab and legion of translated clips by chink. Fubuki short, Miko and Pekora that become virals. And Hololive actively pandering to them and make them feel welcomed. So more and more EOP comes. Nijisanji don't do that often except maybe Inui Toko. Even Lulu who is baby first Nijisanji rarely or never interact with EOP audiences. But they still encouraged English comment in their description. Although, I think the reason why Hololive is popular because all popular Hololive outside En are extremely cartoonish who did funny voice and keep repeating the same joke and catchphrase.

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>>5514877
This, no one who nearly dies due to being unable to take care of themself would ever be suited for a relationship even if they were hot.

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>>5480803
kek

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>Hololive management incompetence, more restrictions, nefing its own talents
>Nijisanji, having more freedom, superior tech
Somehow Niji's losing losing their ground, how does Hololive do it bros?

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>>5514877
>>5515640

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>>5514749
Oh forgot to add. She is part SKB-bu, a Vshoujo-esque club consist of Ange, Rindou Mikoto, Suzuka Utako and Gundou Mirei.

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>>5515984
By not killing their up and coming livers with accent bullying.

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>>5518191
Quick rundown

>Roa is a rare Niji who's faithful to her RP, one she crafted with a friend who's now graduated
>One part of the RP is ending her sentences with "-deyo," which she calls "魔界訛り/devilworld dialect"
>Meiro joins
>Some point after joining, Meiro starts using "-deyo" in her streams despite not doing it in her debut or past life
>Fans notice and start getting on both Meiro's and Roa's cases about it
>This catches Ichikara's attention, and they, knowing that Meiro never used it in her audition, debut, or past life, request that she stop
>Meiro claims that it's just how she talks and requests that they release a statement saying that it's natural
>Ichikara refuses to do it because again, they know that she never used it before and that she's most likely lying, meaning that the statement would be a lie
>Meiro still refuses to stop using it and instead chooses to graduate, sending out the graduation form
>Some senpai Nijis get her to reconsider, and she asks to stop the graduation process
>Ichikara agrees
>Upon coming back, Meiro leaks confidential information related to this ordeal, which is a breach of contract
>Ichikara notices and tells her to take a small break and think about what she has done
>Instead of taking a break, she applies for graduation AGAIN
>And a short while later, she tries to cancel it AGAIN
>However, by this point, Ichikara has had enough of her shit and were reluctant to accept it
>Suddenly, someone clearly on Meiro's side leaks some stuff to Narukami(vkeemstar)
>Meiro is painted as a victim, while Roa is painted as a power-harrassing menhera and Ichikara as a black company
>Roa is cancelled
>Ichikara terminates Meiro immediately, since in their eyes, only she could've leaked it, which is a SERIOUS breach of contract
>Ichikara then puts out a detailed account of the situation from their perspective
>Roa puts out the discord logs that show that, back in summer, she reached out to Meiro to try and have a conversation about it, only to get a single wall of text in response, followed by weeks of ghosting
>With all the information put together, the general opinion starts shifting towards Roa being innocent
>Months later, Meiro('s other identity) releases an ADULT voice drama starring a somewhat familiar-looking agent No. 2535(obvious reference to 2434 — ni ji san ji) of a secret organization called NOA's Ark
>Meiro is now seen as menhera filth and Roa is completely exonerated
>(You are here) Vkeemstar is being trashed for being a retard who believed a menhera's narrative and did serious damage to innocent Roa's career and didn't even apologize for it
>also this is not the first time she did this shit. She once did the exact same modus operandi against Canan. Stealing Canan ASMR style and pretending to be victim.
https://sp.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm37736415?from=100

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>>5518637
i see the roa stans are out in full force today

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>>5514877
>You should watch the clip where she was hospitalized and scolded by Doctor for having a horrible lifestyle.
Link?

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>>5518637
If roa is innocent she would have no reason to go into hiding.

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>>5518753
She is just a kid, bro. My guess is either she concentrate on her study, feel guilty or deadly afraid of Meiro fans.

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>>5482058
kek

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>>5518657
I see niji-antis are out in full force today

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>>5480540
Aloe's graduation happened

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>>5520740
You don't care about Aloe. You probably didn't even watch her debut, and you definitely don't watch Delta now.

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>>5480540
Firstly, English is the most common language in the world. Europeans, South Americans, and obvious EOP countries outweigh Japan's population. So it should be obvious there is a huge base to pull these people from.
>Army of clippers
Where clippers came from, I have no idea, but they made Hololive really accessible for EOP
>English speaking
Way back Marine and Miko made it a thing to speak shitty english often enough to get people overseas interested. Even if it was unintelligible, there was a shitty effort, but an effort nevertheless. Then there was gold in Miko saying the N-word, which was a happy accident.
Then there was Korone who really got the EOP base engaged, playing games people vaguely remember from AVGN and Arino. It was so easy and simple to get them, she very often joked about how they could summon oversea viewers by just saying one "Hey guys~" and get the comments filled with EOP showing up and this encouraged them to keep showing up.
Then there's also Fubuki who did short meme videos where she'd sing or reference some english song. Something that didn't take any linguistic skills, but just a basic attempt to try referencing something EOP would recognize like Scatman.
And then there's Coco, the final bridge maker for the EOP audience in that she could actually speak english and would speak english every now and then. Translated Asacoco shorts, even before reddit review.

The real success from hololive's english division was an actual attempt by Hololive members to cultivate a English audiance. They didn't come from nowhere. They don't spontaneously multiply wherever english speakers are, they came because there was someone calling out to them.

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>>5491386
i love this moment

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>>5480540
Too many times Niji clips or streams have males included, which ruin the content. At least with Hololive 99% of the time I know there won't be any male.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5521080
god you saviourfags make me want to puke

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>>5527221
This. Frankly, I was disgusted enough with my OWN penis that I cut it off; seeing them bobbing around these cute girls sends me into a murderous frenzy.

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>>5518753
People went fucking hard against her during the initial release of Meiro until they started to look more into Meiro. I think she is still young and inexperienced so she couldn't handle the pressure and was not comfortable to come back anytime soon

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>>5486691
Hope you aren’t a Ayame, Choco, or Towa fan then.

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>>5480540
I want to man handle ars

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>>5521331
>Where clippers came from, I have no idea, but they made Hololive really accessible for EOP
Chink subs, ironically. Piggybacking off of scatman, band-aids, and the n-word.

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>>5518637
… so this sounds like the stupidest fucking shit ever. What would be equivalent for Americans? If a gen 2 had a girl who started using a southern accent and Coco fans demand she stop? That’s sounds incredibly stupid. Am I missing something here?

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>>5494001
>Even if they successfully get another Senzawa for their EN branch, it wouldn't work as much cause Gura had 20k+ people watching her on the first week.

I think you mentioned Gura getting 20k viewers as a lot, but it actually wasn't even close to her numbers in the first 3 months. Gura's 2020 numbers don't even look real.
We're talking about 60k Minecraft streams, 70k Among Us collabs, 100k+ karaoke streams and even 36k Superchat reading streams.

https://vnuma.net/streamer/monthly-history/94c4bdcf7b0543d9a472007c4218183b/2020-09
https://vnuma.net/streamer/monthly-history/94c4bdcf7b0543d9a472007c4218183b/2020-10

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>>5528368
Nope, you've about got it right. Roa stans'll try to sweep this under the rug because Meiro went nuclear, but the fact is that Roa started it by being an entitled cunt.

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>>5521331
As someone who came late to the party: Hololive including JP seem very welcoming of EOPs. Lots of English learning streams, overseas sexy guys, Coco’s memes etc. You might enjoy them or not but it’s pretty clear they want you there and are welcoming of shitty translated superchats and the like. Niji and their fanbase seem like they put a lot of gatekeeping and okay. Seems like they succeeded.

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>>5528368
yes except roa's accent is made up and the person copying you didn't have an accent at the start

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>>5528428
both were acting retarded to be fair

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>>5528391
I sort of secretly wish some of the girls would switch to twitch for a month or so, just so we could get some comparison numbers without YouTube fuckery. I imagine Gura would do fantastically well. She would get tons of raids from the usual suspects and have immediate clout of her own. Not that it will happen or is even a good idea. But aren’t you curious?

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>>5528368
No, it'd be more like if a new Holo started using "nanora" or "peko" and saying that it's just how she talks.

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>>5528368
Lets just assume that the accent is true, then the american version of this fuckery is probably if you exclusively use the hood language where you end every sentence with brother/brotha/bruh and someone who also familiar with it also use it maybe change a vowel or something like brah.

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>>5480803
Yes we have 'infiltrated' your hobby and have made it our own, and that will be the truth as long as it exists

[Anonymous No.]

>>5527300
>I was disgusted enough with my OWN penis that I cut it off
(You)
(You)
(You)

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>>5528491
Well, if Gura ever retires, we could always get an indie Twitch vtuber whose voice sounds suspiciously familiar.

[Anonymous No.]

ars is round as fuck, check em btw

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>>5480803

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>>5528625
These explanations make it sound more stupid, not less.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5484563
EOPs are as Chinky as Chinks. Fuck them. Idk why EOP insects, most of whom are Amerimutts and Spics I guess, always try to hijack a chat room and circlejerk.

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>>5480540
Good. The overseas fans in their chat now have either have enough decency to not pollute the chat or know enough Japanese to comment in that language