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>> No.54693955

>>54693867
Wasn't the loli like 20k behind before?

>> No.54694014

>>54693955
she is far from krisis

>> No.54694045

Bijou had a really good debute.

>> No.54694112

>>54693867
>be shiori
>have a pedigree of EN vtubing longer than basically anyone besides ironmouse
>get arguably the nicest model
>get to go first breaking 2 years of a drought of EN gens
>serve a plain porridge debut with some little dashes of very-obvious GFE
>fuck up the one thing she had going for her by warning she might do collabs people don't like aka males
>then get fucking destroyed by the rock girl literally nobody thought about or thought was gonna be good
>she catches up from a like 30k sub deficit to overtake you within the day, has 30% more clips too

couldn't be me.

>> No.54694161

who is that shaggy ultra instinct mother fucker in bottom right, has Niji just given up entirely? what the fuck are those designs.

>> No.54694271

>>54693955
>>54694112
Loli has an mv. Shiori doesn't yet.

>> No.54694345

>>54693867
>comparing males to females

>> No.54694455

That's what happens when your first tweet is a cringe-inducing coomer joke.

>> No.54694462

>Avatar is just a photoshop of Gambit from 90's X-Men
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBKr8YLuVgs

>> No.54694488

>>54694345
But males are the strongest for nijis.

>> No.54694562

>>54694271
Cope, cuck
Chloe was always ahead of Laplus in subs despite the multi million views kamippoina cover

>> No.54694628
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54694628

>>54694562
holo vs holo nijsanji tactics RURO!

>> No.54694691

>>54694628
cry harder, cuck, your whore's days are numbered
she graduate to play chinkshit just like sana

>> No.54694749

>>54694691
Sweet mother of ESL!

>> No.54694767

>up ~50k from debut
>gap with pebble hasnt changed all day
>"s-she's bombing!!"
Catalog retards.

>> No.54694897

>loli closed the 20k gap
>the gap hasn't changed at all
learn math

>> No.54694943

>>54694691
https://eslpals.com/free_lessons

>> No.54694990

>>54693867
>taking the lead in subs
>99 clips vs 67 clips
people aren't so stupid after all.

>> No.54695013
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54695013

>>54694990

>> No.54695213

>>54694897
The gap closed immediately after their debuts and hasn't budged all day. They've both gained exactly 16k subs in the last 13 hours. See for yourself >>54645826

>> No.54695214

>>54694112
You forgot the Genshin part.

>> No.54695222

>>54695013
By tomorrow you could add the rest of xsoleil

>> No.54695244

>>54694990
Even if you truly don't care about the male collabs flub, her delivery is just not exciting. I actually like her ideas for streams, but the way she talks is like a tired procedural affair, she has no energy and almost no emotion. hard to give a fuck about her when she doesn't sound like she herself gives a fuck about what she's doing even in her debut. bijou, within a few mins of listening you get the impression she really-does care, she really-is having a good time going through this etc and it's cute and infectious. that is what a debut is supposed to be.

then again horrible debuts are pretty commonplace both in EN and JP. however shiori's would have been just "ok" if she didn't take a shit in the pool at the end and then functionally double down on it following a homo today. nah fuck her she's done. 4/5 is still not bad.

>> No.54695285

>>54695213
yes which means loli debut was more successful compared to the whore, idiot

>> No.54695287

>>54693955
Yes, that was before Shiori became the designated NTR holotuber and people jumped ship to the based loli.

>> No.54695328

>>54694112
Add her thirsting about her husbandos list.

>> No.54695356

>>54695013
That's so embarrassing...

>> No.54695364

>>54695285
Yeah and that's worn off and they're now growing at the exact same rate. Cope all you want, the proof is there.

>> No.54695462

>>54693867
>Bandage
>Crowbringr
>Ravenctoft
What the hell

>> No.54695484

>>54694112
who cares she's going to be rich regardless.

>> No.54695588

>>54694112
how is it possible to fuck up this hard? you even said it yourself, shiori is no fucking stranger to the vtuber scene, how could she not see this coming from a mile away?

>> No.54695713

>>54695013
Is EN3 that shit that has to be compared to post Iluna Nijisanji?

>> No.54695726

Having almost as many clips without having debuted is crazy.

>> No.54695812
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54695812

>>54695222
how about now?

>> No.54695820

>>54694112
>>54693867
>>54695726
What are clips?

>> No.54695874

>>54695726
The "pls don't" side of that is that it's very possible that most of the clips of... mr bandage, or yu Q wilson, might have been bought into existence by anycolor, as they actively hire clippers.

>> No.54695928

>>54695484
nah unicorns are wise now, she'll get kiddy bae money, but not big momma gura bags.

>> No.54695964

>>54695812
Meloco is the highest subbed Xsoleil...? But why? Don't get me wrong, I think they're all dogshit (besides Zaion who was the only good one but I digress), but why the fuck is Meloco the highest subbed one? Has anyone even watched her? She's like, impossible to understand. Her english is so shit. Sounds like she's speaking with marbles in her mouth. And she's boring as fuck.
How the fuck did she become the most subbed from their gen? How does that even happen?

>> No.54696018

>>54695964
>besides Zaion who was the only good one
pickme tourist take

>> No.54696071

>>54695964
JP sempai cock

>> No.54696111

>>54695964
i'm subbed to meloco but the only stuff of hers i watch(?) is the ASMR, she does asmr roleplay really well unlike most en chuubas... which is probably because she's actually jp.

>> No.54696130

>>54693867
They really named a dude Vegalicious bondage...

>> No.54696139
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54696139

>>54693867

Koseki was literally the best HoloEN debut to date. Even Gura was way worse ignoring the song.

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54696147

>>54696111

>> No.54696329

>>54695588
she is pulling a Fulgur
She wants to debuff herself and cleanse the audience of weak minded individuals
she is already in holoEN, she knows damn well even if she gets Sana tier viewership she is set for a comfortable life

>> No.54696357
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54696357

>>54696018
Nah, Zaions model is literally my exact type. I never grew out of loving tsunderes and her body type and face are pure perfection.
I liked her voice, liked her humor, just didn't like Genshin, but I still watched her anyway because she was actually entertaining.

And I legitimately dropped Nijisanji permanently ever since she got shitcanned, so I'm not just all smoke and no fire.

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54696445

>>54696357

>> No.54696468
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54696468

>>54696139
Not now pebbles, it's Holo vs Niji itt

>> No.54696485

>>54695964
I regularly watch her and I didn't know she's leading her wave, what the fuck. For her streams her ESL-ness makes her pretty funny, sort of like your clumsy older sister who studied abroad and forgotten how to speak English vibe

>> No.54696544

>>54695812
>Zaion 130k
Did nijis unsubbed her after her termination or was she always so low?

>> No.54696556

>>54695964
Japanese style ASMR is the reason
https://www.youtube.com/@MelocoKyoran/streams

>> No.54696561

hello bvtm
kys

>> No.54696693

>>54696329
People always talk about purging the fanbase, but any vtuber successfully accomplished that?
When they do that all they seem to get are more antis and less viewers

>> No.54696702

>>54696556
>>54696111
>ASMR is this big of a buff
>Shiori is known for doing ASMR
>Could have went the ASMR GFE route
>Chose to piss it all away to collab with a male
grim

>> No.54696736

>>54696693
>People always talk about purging the fanbase, but any vtuber successfully accomplished that)
Yes, Ollie

>> No.54696906

>>54696693
nah, it's cope and shit decision making.
99% of vtubers that alienate yurifags and unicorns fade into irrelevance.
bae works at least thrice as hard as her genmates for a pittance of the benefit all because she chose to be the whore of the gen and even she falls back on gfe every now and then to try recoup some fans.

>> No.54696950

>>54696736
If turning into a 3view with more than a million of subs is a success I don't know what to tell you anon...

>> No.54697033

>>54695588
She's a woman, anon

>> No.54697045

>>54696544
ILUNA destroyed the branch hype and by the end of the year when XSOLEIL debuted
the branch reputation was getting bad after Yugo got terminated
So XSOLEIL had a pretty slow sub gain and Zaion was the lowest of the 3 girls
then her content gets nuked so no reason to even stay subbed
don't know if holodex data is outdated or the image used is old
right now her channel has only 113k subs instead of 130k

>> No.54697146

>>54695588
She saw it coming, she didn't care, she thinks (you) are just a drop in the bucket, that's why.

>> No.54697199

>>54697045
NijiEN was fucked by Luxiem favoritism and that cancelled concert. It completely destroyed morale. And then like half of Luxiem fanbase fucked off in the span of 2 months starting panic.

>> No.54697256
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54697256

>>54695588

Anon even if her numbers collapse to Bae/Kiara tier she's set for life.

>> No.54697263

>>54693955
No, pre debut there was never more than a 8k ish difference between the advent members

>> No.54697360

>>54696906
Bae is the idol of the gen by all definitions, get it right

>> No.54697370

>>54697263
thats a fucking lie. the loli was over 20k behind, guaranteed. i remember looking myself.

>> No.54697414

>>54697199
Luxiem favoritism fucked luxiem fans themselves
they bought every single low quality garbage anycolor put out
also the AR Live cancellation was AFTER Yugo's termination
culminating in the third strike being Zaion's termination
I wish Mysta graduated just after that so we had the 4 horsemans of nijiEND

This branch is a literal shadow of its former self, nothing is happening to the branch unless a talent put together an event or big collab

>> No.54697461

>>54693867
is that Magneto????

>> No.54697470

https://archive.palanq.win/vt/search/filename/wh.png/
It goes even further than I thought

>> No.54697552

They should easily pass Regis altare who sits at 259k for the biggest Holostars EN member. Roberu is the most subscribed Holostar at 303k. Now, if they can just pass Sana who is still get subs even though it's very slowly at 409k, then I'd say they are legitimate.

>> No.54697601

>>54697470
Dude is really obsessed in his personal tribal war against nijiEN sub numbers

>> No.54697618

>>54697360
Nah.

>> No.54697626

>>54697461
gambet

>> No.54697675

>>54695214
genshin has proven to boost numbers not lower them kek many creators that are literally who become noticed as soon as they start genshin

>> No.54697700

>>54697618
You don't have to agree with the truth

>> No.54697768
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54697768

>>54697414
Nobody gives a fuck about NijiEN anymore but people still watch Pomu/Selen/Rosemi while pretty much ignoring rest of the branch. Rosemi sounds really out of it recently tho. She's probably going to jump ship.

>> No.54697769

>>54697700
ok retard

>> No.54697775
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54697775

>>54697370
Well this is the last screenshot I got on hand pre debut, I actually forgot how fast the twins climbed.

>> No.54697818

>>54697775
What number do you think the twins will hit a day after their debut?
Think 300k is a stretch?

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54697833

>>54697675
Depends on the streamer for some it's a buff for some it's a massive debuff. HSR is the new meta anyways.

>> No.54697899

>>54697775
To be fair it's 2 people sharing a channel.

>> No.54697914
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54697914

>>54697601
And lol, NijiEN fucked up a lot (well, especially management) but it's idiotic to compare Advent who everyone had been waiting for 2 years to the remnants of a post-Iluna wave that had next to no hype and had like four people leave before debut too. Real SEA moment. Of course they're all going to pass Lazulight effortlessly too but whatever

>> No.54698009

>>54697675
Not on the big corpa youtube scene
the genshit viewers are at Twitch

>>54697768
I really wish they would just pull a coup on anycolor and plan a half-the-branch graduation
but everyone has a different financial need, while the branch as entertaiment company became useless garbage they still get a good pay inside this fandom bubble

>> No.54698027

>>54697700
She can’t even travel to japan without an offpako. Brats are paying for condom money for Oga now. Some idol.

>> No.54698038

>>54697768
Rosemi's exhausted, sick, and has been getting very little sleep. I wish she would jump ship but I don't even know if she'd reincarnate afterward. NijiEN's still probably the best place for her until HoloEN opens up again.

>> No.54698055

>>54697775
I'm actually surprised how close advent is in subs apart from the twins. Holox and council both has much wider sub variance predebut than this

>> No.54698083

>>54698055
Yeah? What did that look like? Was Kroni leading?

>> No.54698131

>>54698038
She could be getting very similar numbers in smaller corps but with none of NijiEN bullshit.

>> No.54698164

>>54697818
Most of them gain about 40-50k post debut so them doing twice that would be a stretch

>> No.54698179

>>54698038
HoloEN auditions are permanently open. She can apply anytime.

>> No.54698202

>>54697370
Stop bullshitting, anon.

>> No.54698229

>>54693867
wtf they got Ezreal?

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54698267

>>54698083
Yes

>> No.54698275

>>54697899
Doesn't really matter. A channel is a channel and you still need people that are interested in what content they're going to provide there. Not like adding up the subs for two different ones.

>> No.54698288

>>54698229
and malzahar, gambet

>> No.54698348

>>54698027
>Studio collab
also, she recorded stuff in the studio that day like when she recorded all of her episodes of Baegemite last time this happened so I can look forward to kino extra content. I'm sorry your oshi can't be arsed to work hard for you and deliver you content beyond streaming so you have to resort to gossiping about the rat that does love her fans

>> No.54698380

>>54698131
rn now as long you don't have aspirations the management bullshit is non-existent
That's why Scarle still happy after 1-year of griding like a maniac while anyone that dares to want to cover something is having passive-agressive remarks towards management

>> No.54698401

>>54694271
>clipping an MV

Loli also isn't a whore.

>> No.54698446

>>54697775
>>54698267
So basically the "20-30k gap" was more like 4-8k, and both the rock and the goth are beating all of Council in post-debut subs.

>> No.54698485

>>54698038
Rosemi is too good for NijiEN. She has a good track record with abandoning sinking ships so I hope she has the foresight to get the fuck out of there again, but part of me thinks she's so settled in and used to her model that she won't go.

>> No.54698570

>>54698038
Rosemi literally made an entire game dedicated to how much she loves NijiEn featuring a ton of inside jokes and Easter eggs referencing members of NijiEn. She's pretty happy with her life but that's about what I'd expect from catalogfags honestly

>> No.54698745

>>54698179
She'll have to wait a couple years on that gamble though
>>54698131
Honestly not really, though I wish it were true
As long as management isn't hounding her (and she seems to really like her manager, saying how she cheered for her during karaoke like that one crying ossan meme) she's pretty well off

>> No.54698750

>>54698348
She admits that she is gachikoi for jp stars. She openly fraternizes with JP stars every time she travels to japan where she is also away from her parents and all their restrictions. If she is too stupid to avoid making all of this obvious to everyone then she deserves to work much harder for marginal gains.

>> No.54698770

>>54695588
she, being a westernized whore, naturally wants to NTR her fans and take their money too

>> No.54698785
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54698785

>>54694112
>>54695588
you guys keep saying
>She fucked up
>She's fucked!
but nothing you've shown has shown that she is being negatively effected by her actions.
I literally only see people here complaining about her.
What proof do you have that she's suffering/fucked in anyway?

>> No.54698836

You people are so thin skinned it's insanely funny.

>> No.54698846

>>54698570
Yeah, she likes her coworkers a lot
I get the "pomu/selen burnt out and hate working there" sentiment but I don't get it from her

>> No.54698998

>>54698785
>Said the same about kronii
>She's irrelevant and had a mental breakdown over what /vt/ said about her
>Same the same about bae
>She's irrelevant and the run of her gen
>Said the same about Mori
>She's irrelevant and had a mental breakdown over what /vt/ said about her
>Said the same about Ame
>She's irrelevant

/vt/ has more sway over vtubers than you'd ever admit and whether you like it or not all chubas are /here/ gauging how the public perceives them because /vt/ is the biggest consumer of virtual tubers on the internet.

>> No.54699061

>>54698785
>but nothing you've shown has shown that she is being negatively effected by her actions.
they said that about Mori, they said that about Kronii, and look at where they are now.
Reputation is in the trash, this type of damage doesn't reflect in numbers instantly, but it's a permanent damage that follows them forever and increases overtime.
Won't have real damage until she actually collabs though.

>> No.54699151

>>54698785
>What proof do you have that she's suffering/fucked in anyway?
Nothing.
unicorns are faggots who know no brotherhood and will bring down anyone who they disagree with in a competition to see who's the least cucked; all a product of their fear of homo collabs

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