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I am willing to bet Shiori will end up being this boards favourite chubba in a few months.
I have seen this movie twice already

>> No.54642841

>>54642788
No.

>> No.54642895

>>54642788
what are you betting on anon? i will grudgepost you.

>> No.54642916

>>54642788
Yeah, just like brapper. People who bitched about TT podcast were totally wrong.

>> No.54642923

Betting what, though? Your glans?

>> No.54643052

>>54642788
She's the most boring hire Cover has ever made in EN, which is saying something. She makes Ina look charismatic in comparison.

>> No.54643112

Either her or the bird girl will be the debut-era Ame of this gen (i.e debut is fucking awful but actual streams are a major improvement)
Rock loli has solidified herself as being good and the twins are gonna succeed no matter what because of the gimmick.

>> No.54643296

>>54643112
She had years worth of previous life and all her streams were like this. People speculated that she just gave up because she lost her old channel with noombers at one point but apparently it's not the case.

>> No.54643297

>>54642788
Possible actually, most should give her a chance before she does career suicide colabs

Actually looking forward for weird microscope autism

>> No.54643359

>>54643112
>will be the debut-era Ame of this gen (i.e debut is fucking awful but actual streams are a major improvement)
Ame was doing a bad accent and entirely in kayfabe mode. Moevella was actually just herself, which is the entire problem with her. You can shape a diamond in the rough to eventually shine, but you can't improve an already fully formed person when they have already hit the upper limit of what they are capable of as an entertainer. This is why hiring longtime vtubers is generally a mistake and finding people with more interesting skillsets is always better.

>> No.54643425

>>54642788
>I have seen this movie twice already
Oh, yeah? Which?

>> No.54643446

>>54642788
She is the only /lit/vgirl from a major corpo. Looking forward to that. Sadly, the majority of vtubing audience is not quite as "smart" (?) to do any reading at all.

Also love her humor and persoanlity, but its rather dry and laid back. So also not for everybody.

>> No.54643493

>>54643446
t. midwit the post.

>> No.54643502

>>54643112
Yeah except there's a difference between technical scuff and... Shiori
She shouldn't have spoken her mind

>> No.54643514

>>54643297
1 month at most
the real deal will come AFTER that 1st month grace period
unless by some absurd chance that it gets lifted earlier than usual

>> No.54643551

>>54642788
Try a year. She is going to go through her own mori arc and hopefully unfuck her attitude.

>> No.54643625

>>54643493
Looks like a hit a mark, huh. I am sorry you are dumb asf. I am sure you can get over 90 IQ with some help.

>> No.54643657

>>54643514
>some absurd chance
If the other incident was indicative of anything, Mori might have a hand in making that less absurd and more factual.

>> No.54643673

>>54643359
Ame wasn't in kayfabe mode she was hopped up on caffeine after being up for 36 hours because she misread the time. Please watch streams. Also, she only did an accent for a small portion of the stream.

>> No.54643808

>>54643514
>1 month at most
Likely yes

>> No.54643813

>>54643551
Hopefully. Like kronii? It could also get worse.

>> No.54643820

>>54643625
>I am sure you can get over 90 IQ with some help.
IQ is genetic and cannot be changed. I take back what I said, you aren't even a midwit.

>> No.54643864

>>54642788
she's cool for liking shotas, but the collab choice stuff is worrisome. hope it's not what everyone thinks

>> No.54643942

well, let's review /vt/'s track record on debut hate (well, some of it was technically /jp/)
>Kiara
got the worst treatment of any EN chuuba so far, is now tolerated by everyone and beloved by a lot of people
>Mori
got praised on debut, then shit on relentlessly for her collab choices, hate reached it's height during the lean arc and has since subsided, still disliked by most
>Ame
shit on for the admittedly horrible debut, immediately redeemed herself, most beloved by far, still had to go through Amegeddon then minor shitposting incidents in her later year, nothing major

>Fauna
shat on for doxx reason, was still well liked right off the bat as a streamer, is now the board's favourite
>Mumei
same as Fauna, plus her shaky start as streamer put even more criticism on her
is also well loved now
>Bae
minor shitposting about wanting to collab with males (this was pre-tempus, so way less seethe about the topic), is still disliked by some Tempus antis but is mostly liked

>bonus round
ID3 was shat on at debut because of the statement of wanting to collab outside of Hololive, ended up being praised to high heaven

so Shiorin has 8/9 chance of turning it around

>> No.54643949

>>54643625
NTA, but your words do not exactly instill me with confidence.

>> No.54643989
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eilene always wins

>> No.54644090

>>54642788
Moai girl has already passed her in subs. The people have spoken

>> No.54644119

>>54643942
>so Shiorin has 8/9 chance of turning it around
You are correct, but a simpler answer is that everyone has the chance to turn it around from debut. All the shitposting and naysaying is based on assumptions and little things. All she has to do is be a good streamer and it will go away

>> No.54644222

>>54643820
There is Flynn effect and then playing instruments regularly has some positive effect on at least spatial IQ although I haven't seen studies on how these improvements affect g. It's not that it's entirely genetic, most people outside of the worst 3rd world shitholes are just maxed out on the environment component. NTA.

>> No.54644283

>>54642788
shes going to say some rightwinger pickme shit and anons will be all over her

>> No.54644326

>>54643942
Yee, I hated kaela so much at debut, and now I only watch her from id, you could be right

>> No.54644377

>>54643446
I only read engineering and math textbooks. why would anyone want to read books for fun when movies and games exist

>> No.54644390

>>54643446
Always weird when people act so smug about liking to read

>> No.54644497

>>54642788
I don't see it. She seem too much of an intellectual to appeal to anybody from this board. How many if you gave even read a book in the past year?

Her older content seemed to be /vt/ friendly but that was like 4 years ago. She did a 180 like that iDubbz fag.

>> No.54644498

>>54644222
I remember there was a famous study in the 70s where they tried moving ghetto kids to a nicer place and gave them all the tools to suceed and they saw pretty much zero improvement, which suggests if environment plays any factor it is from birth to early development, after that you are set for life.

>> No.54645554

>>54644497
>How many if you gave even read a book in the past year?
To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to read a book.

>> No.54646303

>>54642916
trash taste thing wasn't about males, was selling your audience down the river to hang out with ironic weebs who hate the industry you're on. Complete sell out mask off moment. She thought and probably still does that trash taste is her parachute for after graduation but since she's not a booming as she was before they don't give a fuck about her.

>> No.54646380

>>54642788
/vt/ can only agree on what to hate, not on what to love

>> No.54648109

>>54643446
please understand, reading long form media is very hard for SEA posters

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>>54642788
This movie?

>> No.54648281

>>54643942
Mumei was because Nijifags tricked themselves into thinking she’d join them and blamed her for their mistake. Everything else was just an excuse. Kiara had /cgl/ schizos with crabs-in-a-bucket mentality.

>> No.54648340

>>54642788
>I have seen this movie twice already
No you haven't?

>> No.54648353

>>54648109
They’d love my work, then.
>averaging over 800 pages per iteration

>> No.54648516

>>54643446
Fauna exists

>> No.54648822

>>54643942
By your logic Gura would be the most hated member on vt yet she’s still the number 1 western vtuber. Either your opinions don’t matter or all that astroturfing isn’t anyone’s real opinion

>> No.54648862

>>54648822
>Gura would be the most hated member on vt
NTA but.... yeah?

>> No.54649167

>>54642788
The thing is she is a veteran vtuber who has been doing this for years and yet her talking sequences were a complete drag out of the gate. Can she just suddenly learn to talk better in the future?

10-15 minutes in and her cat story was just incredibly boring and her way of speaking did not stand out. No other HoloEN has made me naturally tune out mid-conversation that hard.

>> No.54649233

>>54649167
NTA, she will never be a talker. She will never be someone to just listen to. She MIGHT be someone who can provide creative and "out of the box" stream. It depends on where she takes the ideas she supposedly has.

Either way, she's never going to be my oshi and I have no investment.

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>>54643446
Nobody told this guy Polka has been doing /lit/ streams for a while. We don't want him over.

>> No.54649453

>>54643942
>ID3 was shat on at debut because of the statement of wanting to collab outside of Hololive
tell me how I know you don't watch HoloID

>> No.54650065

>>54642788
I'm willing to give her a chance. We need more smart chuubas, like Fauna. Her content ideas seem novel, and it looks like she might be willing to lean into GFE. Her collab statement was worrisome, but it may not be catastropic. I don't oppose collabs outside of Hololive entirely. If there are some nice indies that she's friends with that she wants to collab with, I think it would be fine to have limited collabs. As long as they're not known antis, shit stirrers, or males. Hopefully Jap and co. will steer her in the right direction.

>> No.54650138

>>54650065
>smart chuubas
>like fauna
>like
>fauna

>> No.54650509

>>54650138
Smart for a vtuber

>>54650065
Yeah, she really ought to have just made it clear whether it was men or women. If you don't specify (like Bijou did), then people are just going to assume the worst. (i.e. her male twitch friends)

>> No.54651178

>>54642788
Maybe if she does streams about TTD.

>> No.54654705

>>54643989
mommy vibes

>> No.54654893

>>54650138
Tell us anon, who is your genius oshi then?

>> No.54654963

>>54654893
I don't need to be albert einstein to call someone a dumb bitch

>> No.54654979

>>54643112
>Ame
>but actual streams are a major improveme
You havent actually watched much Ame have you anon...

>> No.54655054

>>54643112
>Rock loli has solidified herself as being good
Yeah... outdated twitter memes and untitled goose game. Sounds great.

>> No.54655186

>>54643942
>>Ame
>most beloved by far
A teammate completely estranged from the world wrote this

>> No.54655296

>>54655186
Seriously, where is Ame most beloved? She's like an island, she ignores other holomems as much as possible. In big collabs she prefers playing alone in a corner. She's not an entertaining solo streamer.

>> No.54655444

>>54655296
I wonder that too anon

>> No.54658047

>>54643502
>She shouldn't have spoken her mind
Honesty is not the issue. Stop degrading honesty.
The issue is the content of what she said. And it is not yet 100% confirmed, but if it is confirmed, I just won't follow her and consider her the same as with kronii.

>> No.54658197

>>54658047
In terms her personal interest, honesty is absolutely what got her in this mess and it was the wrong choice for a drama-free debut

>> No.54658287

>>54655296
I'm guessing Ame AND Gura are most beloved in the non-serious tourist demographic. It doesn't matter if Ame doesn't collab with other holos because the tourists only know Gura and Ame (through memes, asmongold etc.)

>> No.54658591

>>54658197
Are you by any chance a woman or a professional liar?
When you utter something bad (e.g. "l hate poor people") and people call you out for it, instead of reflecting on yourself, you think the problem was your honesty. Absolutely pathological.

>> No.54658752

>>54658591
>>54658591
????

>> No.54658831

>>54642788
>I am willing to bet Kronii will end up being this boards favourite chubba in a few months.
Doy you see how insane you sound

>> No.54658965

>>54655186
>>54655296
newfags

>> No.54659241

>>54644377
Based STEMbro

>> No.54659322

>>54642788
Nah, BJ is doing everything she can to appeal to the audience. Shiori can't compete with hardcore gamer long-streaming wish.com Gura.
That said, she can still be very successful if she figures out what she is all about instead of this attempt to both be dommy mommy goth gf (and also shy bookworm nerd somehow) when she inevitably drops the bullshit character like all the vtubers do after the first month.
I wish her luck and I'm sure she can do it but Bijou definitely mogged her in the debut.

>> No.54659340

>>54658752
You might be so lacking in self-reflection if you can't properly read or understand that example. For another example, the problem with an honest racist is not that he is honest, but that he is racist.

>> No.54659342

>>54655296
islands in the stream amesame karaoke when?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaNGtgYwSsU

>> No.54659422

>>54659340
Mixing your meds with vodka is not recommended by your physician, hombre

>> No.54659607

>>54659422
If you can't think of a proper reply, simply leave.

>> No.54659618

>>54649327
Links or it doesn't exist. Claimer has burden of proof.

>> No.54659629

>>54659607
no u

>> No.54659853

>>54642788
i'm not against this, but she's going to have to work for it.

>> No.54660288

>>54642788
Jesus, this board is retarded
Especially these reddit pseuds
>>54643942
>>54644497
>>54650065

>> No.54661584
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I can save her

>> No.54661841

>>54661584
You couldn't even save your oshi

>> No.54663061

>>54661841
It will be different this time

>> No.54663216

>>54643942
>bonus round
>hated Anya's accent
>now I like watching her, even though nothing changed about her accent
Maybe Shiori's one of those "acquired taste" types too
Kinda retarded to judge someone based on their debut, to be honest

>> No.54663732

>>54663216
That taste being cock

>> No.54664291

>>54643942
>Fauna
QRD on the 'doxx reason' please? I'm not familiar with that part of the lore. I was under the impression she was just an ASMR type in her pl?

>> No.54664340

>>54643989
Except for when she lost Akari
and lost Moemi (temporarily)
then lost Moemi's replacement Yoemi
then lost enough revenue to be indie
then losing both Etra AND Moemi

>> No.54664464

>>54643942
>>bonus round
>ID3 was shat on at debut because of the statement of wanting to collab outside of Hololive, ended up being praised to high heaven
ONLY Kaela is worth, Kobo have collab with fleshtubers and Zeta is shipped with Axel

>> No.54664496

>>54644497
So she became a hypocritical cuck? How is that intellectual? Midwit take.

>> No.54664543

>>54642788
Maybe, cause this board is 99% women and SEA

>> No.54664654

Unless Shiori gets a completely new voice actress to fit her model I don't see her turning this around

>> No.54665435

>>54642788
Keep this nasty book bitch away from my rock wife

>> No.54665478

There's only one hurdle for her really.
Whether or not she stumbles is up to her.
>inb4 homobeggar rage

>> No.54665577 [DELETED] 

>>54643942
Mori's roommate just dropped a work-begging video the DAY OF the debuts. She's on a countdown now.
Sorry deadbeats.

>> No.54666757

>>54643551
It has only been 2 months since Mori was collabing with homos, she hasn't changed at all what are you talking about.

>> No.54666886

>>54642788
you never saw that movie
kiara and mori still not loved
sana was never loved
kronii was loved and went south
NO A SINGLE CHUUBA start as the unloved one to become loved
this is not a 2 way road

>> No.54667129

>>54642788
needs more yuribait

>> No.54667260

>>54664291
One of her roommate's internet "friends" was doing some gossip on her or something, saying she ghosted her and left her behind to get into hololive. Real case of sour grapes

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>>54643446
She doesn't fucking read. She likes Audio and Visual novels.
Fuck. All she cares about is GFE.

>> No.54667613

>>54667260
It was Shondo having a menhera anti-corpo melty. They made up.

>> No.54667648

>>54667260
This isn't the yab, falseflagger

>> No.54667670

>>54667129
yuribaiting always reeks of desperation

>> No.54667747

>>54667288
>All she cares about is GFE.
I could get behind that

>> No.54667800

>>54667260
But now they are good friends again.
Shondo is a member to Fauna and Fauna also sent a bday recorded greeting for Shondo's bday.

>> No.54668160

>>54642788
Idk, I kinda suspect she's gonna get Sana'd. She's got odd, unique stream ideas, that will ultimately only attract a very niche viewerbase, and she shot herself in the foot inviting drama where there really shouldn't have been by implying there might be issues with who she collabs with after an entire stream of completely hamming up the GFE. The only thing she had going for her was a sexy model that contributed to initial hype, but that can only take you so far.

>> No.54668209

>>54663732
Don't worry, the sisters love the taste of cock. They love retweeting it and watching clips of it. They won't watch streams or buy cock merch though

>> No.54668357

>>54644377
I don't even need to explain why you're stupid, you laid it all out right there. Thank you for saving me the effort.

>> No.54668477

>>54643446
What was the last book you read?

>> No.54668566

>>54666886
uhhh.. ame?

I would say someone in council but I don't watch council

>> No.54668768

>>54667800
That's debatable. They made up but they also really drifted apart from each other.

>> No.54669002

>>54667260
Thanks, anon.

>> No.54669074

>>54667613
loli pedobait BTFO by Mommy. Based.

>> No.54669102

>>54668566
People had whiplash from her debut for a few hours until her first real stream and then there was a whole lot of whoreposting during Amegeddon for a day before they found a cope. Overall she was the most beloved Myth member on /hlgg/-/vt/ because she streamed all the time and chumbies were more reserved back then for whatever reason. If anything, it was all downhill from her 2020 pedestal.

>> No.54669291

>>54655186
I like Amelia Watson.

>> No.54669418

>>54669291
Weird flex but ok

>> No.54669567

>>54669418
Thank you.

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>>54669291

>> No.54670248

>>54643296
Maybe Hololive will kick her in the ass to step up her production quality.

>> No.54670352

>>54670248
What are the chances if they didn't do it for her debut?

>> No.54670705

>>54642788
Once the debut hype wears off her only audience will be the coomers who are able to ignore her voice and saviors. And she'll lose the coomers if she actually does collab with males.

>> No.54670904

>>54670352
Her Debut stream could be used as a template to see what they're working with, and once she's around a bunch of industry proven VTubers she'll have to make a choice - Either grow her content and pull away from what is 'familiar' or just fade into the obscure runt of her gen. Those are really the only choices.

>> No.54671021

>>54670904
She really is guaranteed to be the runt unless Nerissa royally fucks up. The rock nailed it and the twins have a gimmick buff

>> No.54671138

>>54671021
RAVENCROFT DON'T LET ME DOWN
I'M COUNTING ON YOU LIKE YOU WOULDN'T BELIEVE

>> No.54671244

>>54671138
If the rrats are right then you should temper those expectations.

>> No.54671299

>>54642788
I really don't care about what she does, as long as she drops that high cutesy voice. That design begs for a low, smokey, husky voice.

>> No.54671497

She's not my cup of tea and I watch Fauna. After watching her PL stuff, Shiori will likely be a hybrid of Ina/Ame but less talented than both.

>>54671244
You can say this for the twins too.

>> No.54671584

>>54671497
At least the twins fit hololive.

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>>54642788
Well good luck to her because I'm not touching this shit with a 10 foot pole, especially after that out of nowhere lecture on collabs

>> No.54671901

>>54644283
Please no I dont want a new Artia/Pippa

>> No.54671968

>>54643446
>Dude, she's so /lit/
Even if that's true (it's not), none of that is going to come through on her streams. You can't run a "book club" with 100k people in chat, book reviews work better as videos (and even better as text) than as livestreams and reading on stream is a terrible idea.
Her /lit/tubing and "educational" streams will go the same way Sana's astrology streams did. She'll do a few in the weeks post-debut and then they'll be replaced by Minecraft.

>> No.54672302

>>54668160
>that can only take you so far
it's taken kronii pretty far. and shiori is a lot less likely to hate her own fans

>> No.54672410

>>54672302
Kronii has the voice for the model and her content is okay. It's just her mental issues that are the problem and those didn't come out in a single day.

>> No.54673455

>>54643942
finally I see someone bring this up with Bae people forget that HolostarsJP and Tempus are entirely different. I think the JP males are a lot more professional.

>> No.54674304

>>54643942
The sheer irony of Ame,mumei, and fauna being held in high regards by unicorns despite PL goes to show they only pick and choose who to hate.

>> No.54674404

>>54674304
Newsflash, no one actually gives a shit about RM garbage unless they actively bring it up in their streams.

>> No.54674562

>>54674304
No, it just shows that they are not real unicorns and give chuubas leeway to have their personal life behind the scenes as long as they don't bring this shit to streams. Somehow the chuubas still fucking fail. The draw of virtual boy dick is just too strong I guess.

>> No.54674596

>>54642788
She has way more thread and attention on this board even right now. I see literally no comment or discussion on Bijou debut besides "it's perfect", its so perfect that people forget it the next day?

>> No.54674649

>>54674596
Bijou fucking trended in the US on twitter, this board doesn't fucking matter

>> No.54674755

>>54674304
>The sheer irony of Ame,mumei, and fauna being held in high regards by unicorns
>Ame
Kek. Anon you just outed yourself as a Nijisister who doesn't watch Hololive

>> No.54674773

>>54642788
She either will make Mori look like a seiso idol in comparison or go Kirara route and grow from her mistakes

>> No.54674837

>>54642788
Who were the first two?

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>>54671626
That settles it, what a schizophrenic debut, GFE shit then that
>Be a good boy and don't complain about mommy's friends okay? I won't tolerate it
Interesting strategy when people are watching you for the first time ever and nobody is invested yet.

>> No.54675246

>>54674649
You are absolutely correct anon

>> No.54675882

>>54674755
Pre-tempus, ame did have a very large unicorn following. Despite her PL being out there from debut.

>> No.54676285

>>54671244
...fuck.

>> No.54677039

>>54642788
Yeah, no.

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>>54674889
She was trying to set a new record for speedrun to "the talk".

>> No.54680860

>>54642788
I don't think she's interesting enough for that

Her numbers might genuinely end up being the worst of the gen despite having by far the best model

>> No.54681062

>>54648516
I wonder if fauna will keep doing the book club stuff now that this new girl is doing it.

>> No.54681148

>>54642788
The doomposting for Fauna was even worse, remember that

>> No.54681244

I'm looking forward to all the threads titled "APOLOGIZE!" with her picture that will infest the catalog in about a month or two

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>>54642788
Her whole debut was baiting with GFE. She is encouraging goslings/unicorns and also trying to hint at outside collabs that crowd would not like. I don't think that's going to work out well in the long run. This girl isn't striving for anything notable which is pretty disappointing. If you get into a big corpo at least have some big goals.

>> No.54681321

>>54642788
Piano streams and earlicking asmr should be enough. Kino is on the horizon.

>> No.54681354

>>54681263
Could just be hinting at collabs with indie females, which if vetted by management might not be too awful.

>> No.54681489
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>>54642788
I feel very worried about Shiori but most of her other stuff is optimistic. We've seen a debut stream and a very unusual warning: thats it. I don't think she'll become Kronii/Mori tier, but the reason to panic is there for you jackasses.

>> No.54681593

>>54643296
>>54670248
Her problem isn't production quality, what are you talking about

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>>54643989
Can you fix Eilene, /vt/?

>> No.54681687

>>54681244
I await you idiots to cry about streams you won't watch.

>> No.54681707

>>54642788
Outside of her model there's literally nothing appealing about her. Who exactly is she supposed to cater to? Who is her demo?

>> No.54682525

>>54681687
I wasn't being ironic.

>> No.54683826

>>54642788
imagine the grudpost

>> No.54683854

>>54681707
She's a booknerd and a goth. What the hell did you expect? Hell i'm not mad at her being a fujoshi. You're getting the Hot Topic girl thinking she's gonna become an idol.

>> No.54684478

Maybe? The shitposters are down on her for the stupid bullshit at the end, everyone else who isn't trying to bait has just said she's kinda boring and her acting is not great. That's all the real negatives I've seen written about her.

>> No.54684611

>>54684478
The only super negative i can give are
>She's a fujo
>She could hint at twitch collabs
thats all

>> No.54684822

>>54642788
>Mori-tier collab beliefs, but without any singing ability

Nah, she'll just become the new punching bag.

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>>54681263
>Her whole debut was baiting with GFE.

Did you miss the last part of it? Or do you not know what GFE is?

>> No.54684964

>>54671968
Absolutely grim if it happens

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>>54671968
Then she should make them fun. You can make booknerds work. Sana was just so damn dry with her astrology ones, going without a script and being bland. Polka does storytimes btw.

I think Shiori can make it work if she does something outrageous to read (Like Infinite Jest or a greek play).

>> No.54685216

>>54642788
>chinese ESL
>will attract bug people when they find out
>same bug people that harassed coco and haachama, and ruined niji fandom
yagoo forgor?

>> No.54685345

>>54684611
Fujo ain't a deal-breaker. If you've been around cons/the anime scene, the Fujos tend to be the more real anime fans than most women in those rooms/groups. They obsess like retards over dumb cartoons and while annoying and spergy as fuck, they are exactly what your average teen boy who loves anime is like except replace it with harem or whatever the hotness of the half decade is (re:isikai right now).
She's just too forceful with what she WANTS you to picture her as, rather than just being open (or acting) what she's actually like. In the end, it's a combination of acting, personal feeling/stories, and working with the chat that makes a vtuber 'character' and her way of 'telling' us what she is just comes off as not really getting the point and rubs me personally the wrong way.

>> No.54685449

>>54685345
That sounds like a very fixable issue.

>> No.54685668

>>54685449
It is, and it could be. I'm just basing it off of what I hear during the debut. Things can change, and debuts are full of nerves and fears that can really fuck with you. Who knows, in 3 weeks she could find her grove and I might compliment her, but my first impression is that she's just bad at acting and is too forceful with what she wants, which is fine if it's part of the character but hers comes off more as 'desperate' in that she really just wants to fit that role without putting in the effort.

>> No.54685784

>>54685668
in 3 weeks she might as well be a different streamer.

>> No.54686366

Shiori was a bit heavy-handed with her talk about respecting people she collaborates with, but she still has some things going for her; she's an archiver that seems to actually read literature (appeals to book readers), interests align with her goth model (based on cartoon/games/husbando choices), and unique stream ideas (education, microscopes, anatomy, chemistry). I'll wait 2-3 weeks before judging her too harshly.

>> No.54690375

>>54642788
cunny

>> No.54690477

>>54642788
100%

>> No.54690933

>>54642788
I already unsubbed unfollowed. I will be getting all my news for her from here if there is any a las Kronii/Ame

>> No.54690998

>>54690933
she's had 1 fucking stream drama queen

>> No.54691068

She should have joined Nijisani she would fit right in, who am I kidding HoloEN is just Niji at this point anyways. Mori Ame Bae and Kronii should be fired for starting this. Holo has no appeal over Niji now.

>> No.54691177

I'm waiting for the day she actually does collab with a homo or an outsider whore just to see this board shitpost about it even harder. I'm just in for the fun at this point.

>> No.54691299

>>54686366
She's full of herself if she thinks homo pandering will do her any favors.

>> No.54692415

>>54667648
Then what is it retard

>> No.54692525

>>54642788
Let me guess? Mumei and Fauna redemption style?

>> No.54692671 [DELETED] 

>>54691177
You think she just added “respect my collab partner choices” for no reason at all while also trying to gfe pander? That would be so low IQ if would almost preclude consciousness.

>> No.54693037

>>54690998
i also blocked her and i replace any instance of her name with Kronii in my browser.
she was clearly gfe pandering up until the talk. so, if by unicorn logic gfe + males = slut.

>> No.54693243

>>54642788
been thinking about it actually, but how difficult would it even be for her to get a collab with randos from outside the company? I can only think of Kiara for reference with how long and hard it took with management before she was finally able to collab with Pomu

>> No.54693278

>>54693037
>clockcuck and down syndrome
name a better combo

>> No.54694998

>>54644498
Truth is, school is only a small part of s subjects environment. Kids spend only a fifth or so of their lives there.

>> No.54695310

>>54644390
I think it's based to read a lot, or watch a lot of anime, or play lots of games.
most people waste most of their time scrolling whatever gacha dopamine reward website they like or in "social media".
(of course, creating things yourself is even more based)

>> No.54695804

>>54690998
Enough to filter someone

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