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I love her!

Why are all the schizos mad again? Is it just because they projected and assumed shit on her predebute??

>> No.54642888

>>54642748
liking her is extremely based honestly, people just don't get the vision. she has been weird in her debut but that makes me wanna see more from her, she seems interesting.

>> No.54642982

She could be like Rin from Idol if she's willing to take the initiative.

>> No.54643448

>>54642748
From what I've seen: too much expectation from pre-debut. It seemed that people were expecting her to be some sorta of femdom-type goth GFE that have husky ASMR-quality voice. It didn't help that her looks screams 'menhera'. Turns out, well, she's just a dorky chick with... a high-pitch voice? Well, it does fit her /lit/ interest background at least.

Also, I do find it odd about her statement before ending the debut stream, where she asked to be respected for her collab partner choice. Usually, you don't talk about this kind of stuff and speculation wise, it's usually talking about male collab situation. But, who knows honestly.

>> No.54643710

>>54642748
If you like her, you are probably a niji enjoyer.

Nothing wrong with that but it would be better if she's not in hololive. She wasted a good model design

>> No.54643765

>>54642748
>>54642888
Hi Shiori

>> No.54643938

She's who the rrats said she was.
Forget about collab implications that schizos are reading into her words, unless she drastically changed in the few months she was gone, she'll still have the same bog-ass boring content as ever.

>> No.54643965

>>54642748
>/lit/
>audiobooks
Neck yourself

>> No.54644224

>>54642748
The lethargic unicorn fanbase stuck their dick in another target and realised it was a paper shredder inside

>> No.54644393

>>54642748
Pippa is a /lit/ vtuber.

>> No.54644501
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54644501

"people" really hate it when good things happen in hololive, it's just part of the schizo background radiation on /vt/

>> No.54644613

>>54644224
>>54642748
Cuck

>> No.54644782

>>54643965
>Noooo!!! NOT HECKIN AUDIOBOOKS! YOU CAN ONLY CONSUME MY PREFERRED MEDIA IN MY PREFERRED FORMAT OR ITS HECKIN STUPID
KYS gatekeeper

>> No.54644842

>>54644613
Shiori is my wife and will not cuck us

>> No.54644910

>>54642748
You answered your own question.
But really, this always happens every debut.
Anons overhype themselves, then they project their fetishes, then when the debut comes they are disappointed.

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>No /lit/ vtuber that actually likes classical literature

>> No.54645205

99.99% Of the reason they hate her is bc she hinted she might collab with both boys. So... pure unicorn/shizo jealousy nothing deep. Yea considering she was good ol Moe before i cant help to associate her old look with her voice so from this run of the mill blue haired anime girl to now a goth with her voice feels a bit odd but nothing to lose your mind

>> No.54645350

>>54642748
I expected an energetic girl behind this design and not some boring grandma librarian.

>> No.54645466

>>54645350
She didn't seem energetic to you? What are you a fucking Fillian fan?

>> No.54645482

>>54642748
But all the books she likes are fucking lame. Sherlock holmes is meh.

>> No.54645578

>>54645482
>Doesn't like classic detective fiction
It's okay to say you got filtered anon

>> No.54645677

>>54642748
SEAfags are mad cause they can't read

>> No.54646781

>>54645677
kek

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>>54642748

>> No.54646989

>>54642748
Her choice in books is extremely basic. Where's the niggerman?

>> No.54647063

>>54645677
lol

>> No.54647478

>>54642748
hey apparently she was also on /b/

>> No.54647594

>>54642748
Ok but has she read Hypersphere?

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>>54646989
she did list this tho

>> No.54647799

>>54642982
Shiori's GFE baiting and Cover's oppressive restrictions means no chance. On the other hand, you have one prince carrying an entire company, so rin gets to do whatever the fuck she wants, and she capitalizes on it (e.g. that stream where she edits the company's website realtime, which was probably huge for their SEO).

>> No.54647822

>>54647478
What

>> No.54647980

>>54646989
Can you post the list I wanna judge her

>> No.54648485

I give her a month before she drops her cringy lore and never speaks about books ever again.

>> No.54648767

>/lit/
>reads sherlock holmes and of mice and men (required reading for all middle school american students)

>> No.54648827

>>54648767
compared to chuubas who only read light novels...

>> No.54648895

>>54643448
>Also, I do find it odd about her statement before ending the debut stream, where she asked to be respected for her collab partner choice. Usually, you don't talk about this kind of stuff
Anon, anyone with a fucking clue knows that the longer you allow a certain subgroup to fester the worse things will be when they feel betrayed. Announcing her intentions early like that was the best thing she could have done. Anyone who isn't part of that group isn't going to care about what she said. Anyone getting offended by or trying to blow what she said out of proportion is most likely part of the group she wants to expel so their opinions can be safely disregarded.

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>>54647980
Gonna copy pasta an analysis on them too.
>her takes are very goth, Du Maurier especially, and she's definitely into mystery and darker crime. Journey to the River Sea is beautiful and a really underrated older junior novel, so it sounds like she enjoys something comfy between all that crime! The older men who borrow Galbraith from here love murder and edge.

>> No.54648971

>>54642748
People expected crazy and ignoring the voice she’s crazy. Nothing to do with predebut it’s entirely voice which I don’t mind and her last statement

>> No.54649029

>>54648934 (me)
I actually failed the copy pasta a bit and missed the start.
>I'm a librarian (and really want to debut as a library themed Britbong someday) and her takes are very goth

>> No.54649105

>>54648934
>Murder on The Orient Express
Ah, one of the only two enjoyable Hercule Poirot books.

>> No.54649133

>>54642748
What is her opinion about Lolita?

>> No.54649271

>>54642748
30 Porcelan dolls... she is special

>> No.54650476

>>54645030
Does Sherlock Holmes not count? It's quite a classic at this point

>> No.54650503

>>54642748
Being into Harvest Moon / Story of Season because you can get married is so relatable I swear

>> No.54650945

>>54642748
she doesn't understand the toxic culture of her workplace yet

>> No.54651163

>>54650945
Oh, I really hope for her sake that she doesnt read twatter or this board.

>> No.54651705

>>54642748
All that books and still dumb on vtubing.

>> No.54652104

>>54642748
What books did she say she had read?

>> No.54652187

>>54652104
my diary desu

>> No.54652212

>>54652104
See >>54648934

>> No.54652295

>>54650476
It's not one of the Conan Doyle books but a later writer's

>> No.54652334

>>54648895
She literally said that her debut was a "first date" you idiot. SHE WANTS THAT AUDIENCE. Shutting them down off the bat with that shit was insanely retarded.

>> No.54652457

>>54644782
gatekeeping is ideal retard

>> No.54652492

>>54652334
>taking things this literally
Thank you for proving my point. Don't take it so hard anon, I'm sure she's not the first to reject you.

>> No.54652546

>>54642748
Ok she isnt my Oshii as I could never have one but Gura HOWEVER I dont like to jerk off to Gobidaba and Shiorin is everything I love in women wrapped up in a neat package, I will watch her regularly and drop many loads to her amazing bookshelves

>> No.54652594

>>54652492
How am I taking anything literally? She said "first date" during her debut. She knows what that means. She wants to be GFE. She then proceeds to shoot herself in the foot with the "respect my collabs" thing. utter stupidity.

>> No.54652748

>>54652594
Anon your lack of critical thinking is concerning. Thank you for proving my point again.

>> No.54652837

>>54652748
>lack of critical thinking
>refuses to elaborate on any points
you're fucking retarded go back

>> No.54652912

>>54652837
I've already elaborated.

>> No.54652975

>>54652295
But she has read all the "canon" Sherlock stories.

>> No.54652988

>>54652594
This. She clearly rehearsed and knew the exact words she wanted to say/emphasize, there were certain notes she intentionally hit. You can't expect me to believe someone being that methodical would just happen to be vague with a key point. She either intentionally said that or didn't do her research properly, either way she bears the blame.

>> No.54652993

>>54642748
i hope she does a memebership bookclub

>> No.54653094

>>54652988
She was supposed to be Holo's star, it was 200% a last minute management decision. The greater the pressure, the more terrible Japan is at management.

>> No.54653162

>>54652988
>she bears the blame.
This is exactly why she's shutting down you pathetic virgins early.

>> No.54653237

>>54653162
She obviously wants that audience though which is why it's so stupid. There's no other reason to imply that they're on a "first date" unless she wants to pander to that audience.

>> No.54653597

>>54653237
Anon do you not understand the mental gymnastics you're going through in an attempt to tell her she's wrong about what she wants?
>no, look! look! she used the word date!
>she clearly wants this subsection of the community which is widely known for stabbing their oshis in the back the moment it's revealed they talk to m-m-males!
>never mind the fact that she blatantly told us to fuck off in her debut! she's wrong about that! she wants us!

>> No.54653701

>>54653597
You're doing exactly what you're saying I'm doing. If anything the GFE was far more obvious than whatever "incel-smashing" you think she did. Seriously take your meds.

>> No.54653800

>>54653701
>being this delusional
Thank you for proving my point yet again. She blatantly, clearly, without a shadow of a doubt told you and your ilk to fuck off. It doesn't matter how desperate you are to spin this or tell her she's wrong about what she wants. You are not desired. Suck it up and find someone else to cling to.

>> No.54653933

>>54653800
Seriously did you even fucking watch the stream? She was obviously going for gfe for most of it. The only part that plays into your mental illness was at the end when she said to respect her collab decisions.

>> No.54654051

>>54653701
>GFE was far more obvious than whatever "incel-smashing" you think she did
Case in point, there's people currently arguing about what her collab statement event meant because it's so vague.

>> No.54654070

>>54653933
>Seriously did you even fucking watch the stream?
I did and she told you to fuck off. Everyone except the people she was directly addressing seems to understand this. I know you know what she was saying because you wouldn't be accusing her of hypocrisy otherwise. You played yourself. Thanks for making this easy.

>> No.54654185

>>54654051
>it's so vague.
This is only something desperate virgins tell themselves. Females collaborating with males is literally the only type of collab which routinely causes a shitstorm and mass backlash. Stop being disingenuous.

>> No.54654292

man I'm tired of these obvious raiders pretending like anything is going on. Like yeah it was fun at first to engage with their mental illness, but they're just repeating the same stupid things over and over again as if it means anything. Like come on dude talk to your raid organizer or something and come up with some better bait.

>> No.54654438

Don't look behind the curtain if you want to enjoy her that is all i can say. just cosoom and nod

>> No.54654483

>logic is against us, who can we blame now? blaming Shiori is getting us mocked.
>...blame discord!

>> No.54654666

>>54654292
It really is a bunch of shit eating retards hoping that they can make other people throwi up doing it and then high fiving for "owning" everyone ignoing they are shit eating retards.

>> No.54654986

>>54642748
yes

>> No.54655280

>>54654438
I looked behind the curtain and found mad rrats. Par for the course. Everything is daijobu.

>> No.54655425

People knew who she was going to be, and yet they were disappointed with how she sounded and acted?

>> No.54655503
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Uhhhh, this is small corpo level opsec

>> No.54657420

>>54642748
I mean, the 'Archivist', along with that handwritten letter of hers. If she wasn't a massive bookworm, I would have been surprised.

>> No.54657737

>>54648895
A debut stream is absolutely not the time to do such a thing. It's a vibe killer.

>> No.54657912

>>54642748
I mean, it’s a pretty safe assumption, she said at the end of her debut “please be nice to the people I collab with, even if you don’t like them”, which heavily implies she’s either gonna be playing with tempus or her old twitch friends, there’s no reason to say that if you’re not planning on doing controversial collabs

>> No.54658019

>>54657737
Earlier is always better with that crowd. Always. The longer their obsession is allowed to develop the worse their outrage is when they feel betrayed. This has been proven time and time and time again. The fact that she chose her debut to make this clear should speak volumes about how little tolerance she has for that bullshit. Anyone who can't understand this is part of the problem.

>> No.54658035

>>54642748
The odds of Shiori being anti-Hololive are about 50/50 right now. Everything's fine if she doesn't do male collabs. But all the /lit/ in the world can't save her if she does.

>> No.54658054

>>54648895
Except she didn’t even announce it, she was vague as fuck, it came across like she was planning to announce homostars collabs but pussied out last second (also like that other anon said, she literally called it a first date, so i think she’s just retarded and trying to play both sides, i picture she’ll learn that it doesn’t work and she has to pick a lane)

>> No.54658175

>>54658054
>she was vague as fuck
See >>54654185
If you think a female vtuber clarifying something like this means anything other than "I will collab with males" you're either fucking clueless about the industry or you're in some hardcore denial because you're desperate for someone to cling to.

>> No.54658281

>>54658019
>The fact that she chose her debut to make this clear
She didn't make anything clear. The meaning of what she said is currently unknown and right now all people can do is speculate. She fucked up especially hard by being vague.

>> No.54658303

>>54642748
I'm so excited. does anyone know of any male /lit/ vtubers? they could have some teetee.

>> No.54658337

>>54658281
>vague
See >>54654185 >>54658175

>> No.54658376

>>54658175
>clarifying
Kek. You're using that word again. She didn't clarify shit.

>> No.54658409

>>54653597
Ok then just don’t talk to males and it’s fine. Idk why people say this like it’s such a massive own
>muh your fans will turn on you when you start doing male collabs
Just don’t do male collabs? Like… why is that hard? The fans are super fucking clear on what will make them upset, so it’s entirely the chuuba’s fault if they see that criticism and go through with it anyways

>> No.54658457

>>54642748
Yes. They do this every single time and never learn.

>> No.54658545

>>54654070
Nta but you’re actuallt retarded, she called it a date stream; that is literally all of the evidence needed to assume she was trying to do GFE, if you’re not doing GFE then calling your stream a date is really fucking stupid and makes no sense whatsoever. She’s just a dipshit and is trying to play both sides of the field. She wants to do GFE and have a dedicated fanbase from that, while also doing homocollabs (which won’t work but that’s clearly her intention)

>> No.54658552

>>54658376
See >>54654185 >>54658175 >>54658337
>>54658409
>The fans are super fucking clear on what will make them upset
Shiori was super fucking clear she wants you retards to fuck off and she will collab with who she wants. Your desires are irrelevant.
>b-b-but the cute anime girl is supposed to cater to me! if she does this i wont give her money!
She doesn't want your money. Fuck off and find someone else to obsess over. There isn't much room for interpretation here.

>> No.54658556

>>54646902
Accurate.

>> No.54658605

>>54642748
Good for you, anon. I purposefully blocked everything Hololive related since I saw the new gen video get posted. So I didn't know or see anything about any of them and went in completely blind with zero expectations. With that being said, her and the rock are both just so bland and boring. I don't see why they're even there. They're as special as a cup of room temperature vanilla ice cream.

>> No.54658633

>Galbraith
Into the trash she goes

>> No.54658655

>>54658545
>she called it a date stream
See >>54653597

>> No.54658726

>>54658175
>>54658337
Hey retards, collabs with nijis/vshojos or other controversial indies will still be controversial, your cope would only work if male collabs were the only type of controversial collab under the sun but it isn’t

>> No.54658820

>>54658655
I read it, but that guy is a dipshit, she did not “clearly tell us to fuck off”, that is massive fucking cope, she was incredibly vague and literally just said to respect her collab partners, that is not telling us to fuck off. Calling it a date stream by itself is enough to conclude she was trying to do some sort of GFE and you dipshits are stupid if you think otherwise, there is no other explanation for why she would call it that

>> No.54658895

>>54658726
You're genuinely fucking retarded if you think Holo/Niji collabs are anywhere near the level of female/male collabs in terms of fan spergout. Saying otherwise is just mental gymnastics.
>>54658820
>vague
See >>54654185 >>54658175 >>54658337 >>54658552

>> No.54658991

>>54658552
No she was not super clear at all, that’s the point we’re making retard, how bad is your schizophrenia if you saw the stream and interpreted it as her telling unicorns to fuck off, she called it a fucking date stream retard

>> No.54659021

>>54658545
>She’s just a dipshit and is trying to play both sides of the field
Or she wasn't thinking and didn't realize that being vague would cause problems.

>>54658552
>Shiori was super fucking clear
No, Shiori was super fucking vague. You don't know what she meant and you're making up headcanon. You won't know what she meant until she actually explains what she meant.
>She doesn't want your money
Well then she should graduate immediately because making money is her job and if she doesn't want to do it then she's a bad employee.

>> No.54659072

>>54658991
>No she was not super clear at all
Only a delusional virgin desperate to get attached to her would think this.
>>54659021
>vague
See >>54654185 >>54658175 >>54658337 >>54658552 >>54658895

>> No.54659156

>>54659072
holy shit what is this retardation. I told you before to get better bait instead of LITERALLY just copy and pasting your stupidity over and over again. God these fucking raiders suck.

>> No.54659157

>>54659072
Why does pointing out that Shiori was vague make you so upset?

>> No.54659161

>>54658895
It doesn’t have to be the same level, so long as it is controversial then it still lines up with her statement, which makes you guys retarded because we can’t assume what she meant until she clarifies, she was super fucking unspecific, she did not say “i am collabing with holostars, get over it”… that would be specific, saying “respect my collab partners” is objectively vague, she did not say who the collab partners are, which makes it vague.

>> No.54659270

>>54659156
Don’t worry, they’ll be gone in a few days, this happens every time a new controverisal chuuba debuts, the astroturfing defense force comes in full swing, which is obvious cause their arguments fucking suck. They’re the same people who come here and say “muh i don’t understand why you can’t just skip male collabs”

>> No.54659383

I'll give her a chance, but so far none of them seem impressive. They all sound the fucking same as each other, I mostly like this one for her appearance but even she just turned out to be another high-pitched American doing an anime voice.

>> No.54659587

>>54642748
Probably I mean it's definitely her and she's the OG English Vtuber the 1st of her kind back in the day. Her past life belongs being mentioned along the likes of the Japanese OGs that kicked this whole thing off. Why cover waited this long to get her is mind blowing to me.

>> No.54659641

I enjoyed her disgusting fujo style cringe ass shit and her random cringe fumbles at being cute or lewd while being stared at by 100k+ people for the first time, made me smile and thats enough
Any fags who got so emotionally invested in the woman before ever seeing her like some virgin arranged marriage pajeet within a few days of knowing they even existed to then feel it necessary to emotionally debate the morality of her existence after seeing her under pressure live on the telly for 40 minutes with more intensity than they'd likely ever give to an hours long paid movie is just a sign that anyone who does so is in far too deep
You fags need to learn to chill out and just enjoy the entertainment, and if you don't like this particular source you can continue to be happy with the chuubas you were watching before and their style of entertainment. Feeling like you're forced to be in some relationship with her and somehow being mentally rape-cucked when you can just walk away makes you seem deranged

>> No.54659746

>>54659641
It's called critique anon. I don't have to be a fan of her if I want to talk about her and her failings.

>> No.54659863

>>54659641
>emotionally invested
I'm not emotionally invested in Shiori. But if she harms Hololive by collabing with males then I'll become very emotionally invested in her destruction.

>> No.54659902

Gachikois can't even read, so what even is the point?

>> No.54659981

>>54659161
>It doesn’t have to be the same level
Yes it does. Almost everything a vtuber does is controversial to their audience to some degree. There is a large amount of content that people do not like to see. For evidence of this just look at how frequently shit like superchat reading or competitive FPS playing get complained about here. You can't bring up indie or competing corporation collabs as if they're on the same level as male collabs because they're not. Show me a single time an indie collab or a competing corporation collab has caused anywhere near as much backlash as shit like male/female collabs cause, or even someone doing the GFE/BFE being exposed for being in a relationship. Show me any of these causing a shitstorm on the same level of what happened with Vox or Rushia. The level of virgin outrage absolutely does matter and you're a fucking retard if you think otherwise.
>>54659156
I'll stop repeating myself when you morons stop saying this shit is vague. It isn't. At all. It's quite clear and if you can't understand it you're most likely the type of person Shiori wants to fuck off. Pretty fucking simple. If it sounds like I'm just copy/pasting responses it's because you retards are regurgitating your mental gymnastics.

>> No.54660108

>>54659981
It's pretty vague mu dude

>> No.54660269

>>54659981
>I'll stop repeating myself when you morons stop saying this shit is vague
Well Shiori was extremely vague about it so people are never going to stop saying she was extremely vague about it. Enjoy denying reality, retardchama.
>It's quite clear
It was the exact opposite of clear.

>> No.54660368

>>54642748
A lit chuuba would have been interesting but that's not how she debuted. She barely reads at all let alone seriously.
>Hobbies
>audiobooks
>Books
>let me talk about my favorite books, oh I love Audible, so...
There are also other things you should have picked up on. She should have called herself an archivist too.
It's fine for a normal person that doesn't read much.

>> No.54660490

>I'll collab with whoever I want
Idk I personally just don't like the attitude. It's not even that she'll be collabing with penis havers as much as she blatantly made a point to say that to say 'fuck you guys I do what I want'
Came off worse than "improve yourself" if we're being honest because at least Ame was familiar with us

>> No.54660531

>>54659746
True, but the comments I see are all themselves basic lacking much of any substance as the stream and topics of debate aren't that complex or deep or have much of any substance either. It's mostly just anons shitting on each other or her with a decent bit of seethe in the way comments are written going back and forth ending in a dozen "no you" posts
Anons would probably be best keeping their mind and heart clean of seethe and wait till the debuts are done, and either drop her or keep watching depending on how the other streams follow up
>>54659863
m8 this type of schizo comment has been posted by anons for years and as far as I'm aware Hololive is still standing. The one time a male seemed to have caused any actual damage was with Rushia, and that was all personal life off stream interactions that after an accidental leak caused a menhera investigation into her

>> No.54660552

>>54642748
I wanted a yandere menhera with deep voice and she completely missed those expectations
hence I will be her anti

>> No.54660718

>>54660552
Same, but I'm not mentally ill enough to be an anti.
Still a huge missed opportunity though, imagine that model with a sensual, husky voice.

>> No.54660891

>>54660269
>vague
See >>54654185 >>54658175 >>54658337 >>54658552 >>54658895 >>54659072

>> No.54661171

>>54660531
>The one time a male seemed to have caused any actual damage was with Rushia
>ignores Kronii going insane and driving away most her paypigs
>ignores Mori dropping almost half her viewers
>ignores Bae being permanently stuck at the bottom of Council
>ignores Ame going on a spiteful lecture and telling her fans to fuck off
>ignores the fact male collabs have almost entirely stopped for some "mysterious" reason
>ignores the fact that the most popular member of Holo En is pure CGDCT
>ignores the fact that the whole reasons Shiori is embroiled in controversy right now because her vagueness is making people think there's a chance she might do male collabs
>ignores the fact that there's absolutely no controversy surrounding Bijou because she was smart and said she wants to collab with girls
But intergender collabs don't cause problems right? Kek.

>> No.54661269

Audiobooks. You can't read audiobooks, you listen to them anon.

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Alright, people seem to think that the reason some aren't fond of Shiori is because of her statement on collabs at the end of the debut. That was dumb, but no, it's not just that.
She did much worse.

It's about her being an unironic turbo slut. And I don't mean the 4chan definition of "she kissed a dude" or "she had a bf before!".
I mean an actual vile slut that had miles of cocks inside of her.

Did you know that Shiori aka Natsumi Moe used to be on this site?
Did you know that she used to record lewd vocaroos for anons among other things?

https://vocaroo.com/1iLfmtddEIoL
https://vocaroo.com/18MUAqTlCgpj
https://vocaroo.com/1ix1CYrH0Y6Q
https://vocaroo.com/1mVWroqCoFSq

No big deal of course, hot even. But did you know that she literally talked about all the condoms she had to keep buying and the dicks she had stuck inside of her?
She was unironically the town bicycle kind of girl.
Forget complaining about other ENs for overblown issues, this girl is an actually disgusting human being. For once words such as turbo slut or absolute whore actually accurately describe a holo.

>> No.54661347

>>54661171
Problems? Sure
Problems that the girls seem to all have been well aware of before going forward with doing it themselves. Its self inflicted wounds they did with a purpose, yet they're still here and they're still streaming so they don't seem to have considered those wounds a problem

>> No.54661405

>>54660891
Shiori was vague as fuck and you can't change that fact no matter how much you deny it. If she's truly dumb enough to collab with males the backlash will be swift and massive at a critical point in her career. I can only hope she's smart and doesn't do it.

>> No.54661461

>>54661347
They're still here because holo is still a goldmine and offers them an infinitely better way of life than they will ever have outside of it.

>> No.54661552

>>54661461
Could be true, and if thats the case it definitely seems like Hololive is still alive and thriving and making them wealthy so all those listed incidents don't seem to have actually caused much damage at all

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>>54661331
rratbros we eating good tonite

>> No.54661738

>>54660891
This is all you projecting your own thoughts onto her lol

>> No.54661785

>>54661552
You really got 0 awareness. Hololive is still thriving because of other members having built up a incredibly strong foundation for years, certainly not because of a few morons that have contributed little have mostly done damage. Hololive still holds strong, but sure, if we continue getting morons like this, it's only a matter of time until they need to go Nijisanji-style cut the bad roots whenever they show up.

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>>54661331
>rape my ass onii-chan
I am both aroused and disgusted

>> No.54661867

>>54661347
>Problems that the girls seem to all have been well aware of before going forward with doing it themselves
Nope. Kronii, Mori, and Ame were were clearly unprepared for the problems that intergender collabs would bring. Why else would they backpedal so fast once the shit hit the fan? Bae sort of knew which is why she was up front about her desire for Homos during her debut, but she wasn't prepared for how badly males would limit her growth and now she's feeling the consequences.

>> No.54661893

>>54661331
Well, this explains the out of place swallowing joke she made

>> No.54661895

>>54661331
>recording lewd lines
This is nothing. Pippa masturbated over skype video calls for gold back in 2013-2015 TERA days.

>> No.54661970

>>54661331
But she's a maiden at heart.

>> No.54661973

>>54661895
wtf? How old was she for that?
I never checked but Pippa can't be a hag

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>>54661895
wouldn't she have been like 15

>> No.54661998 [DELETED] 

>>54661331
>Did you know that Shiori aka Natsumi Moe used to be on this site?
>Did you know that she used to record lewd vocaroos for anons among other things?

lmao this is just nyanners all over again. Who fucking cares.

>> No.54662076

>>54661998
>this is nyanners all over again
>who cares
You mean, you don't care about one of the worst, most pathetic vtuber out there that told more lies than truths?

>> No.54662092

>>54661973
She was underage but the guild she hung around with - Dump - is full of literal pedophiles because it was a 4chan guild initially founded by a bunch of lolicons who would sit around and jack off to each others' elins.

You can confirm she was associated with Dump because in one of her semi-recent tera streams she talks excitedly about them after seeing the guild icon.

>> No.54662142

>>54662076
>You mean, you don't care
Why care? I'm here to jerk off and laugh

>> No.54662212

>>54662076
do you care about nyanners dark past of rapping about loli rape and saying nigger?

>> No.54662249

>>54661331
I noticed some said that her debut had strong ToT vibes, and I could only notice that she was saying things in a calculated way and flat delivery. Like she knows what people want to hear but doesn't really care. So your post really makes sense and all the pieces fit together now.

>> No.54662273

>>54662212
I care about her being a fucking retard that doesn't deserve a single cent.

>> No.54662471

>>54662273
Where do you think we are? its not reddit or twitter where people care about someone being lewd.

>> No.54662475

>>54642748
just wait until she start to ask sc for condoms(and I mean it literally) and then come here again with that question

>> No.54662591

>>54662092
>>54662212
>>54661998
>>54662076
>>54661331
I just want nice chuubas that do cozy and fun content they enjoy and not stoop to doing everything and anything for attention. Why are they all like this?

>> No.54662650

>>54642748
>Is it just because they projected and assumed shit on her predebute??
A chubas look should fit their personality
This one doesnt
This is like giving cocos model to ina

>> No.54662676

>>54662471
Well, as expected of a retarded nyanners fan, can't even understand that I don't really care about the loli rape, but about what comes after and her pathetic attempts at throwing past fans under the bus and failing and trying again etc etc.

>> No.54662737

>>54662591
women

>> No.54662739

>>54650476
Kinda, Sherlock is more pulpy mysteries. They are fun to read and the format was pretty fresh when it was first written, but it wasn't really written to be a piece of artistic literature in the same way something like Crime and Punishment could be considered.
Classic for the genre but not strictly literature.

>> No.54662920

>>54662591
>I just want nice chuubas that do cozy and fun content they enjoy
This is why I really enjoy Bae and Shiina.

>> No.54662959

>>54662676
>but about what comes after and her pathetic attempts at throwing past fans
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She never claimed to be seiso or that she hates lewds stuff. Are you mad she isn't just saying who her PL is? Make up your mind.

>> No.54663065

>>54661331
I read the posts in the image. One thing I was wondering about completely unrelated to male collabs because I don't care is that she said she wants to meet other Holo members. Would people really feel comfortable with a person like that around their oshi who posted stuff like that in the past?

>> No.54663073

>>54662591
>Why are they all like this?
Because many of these people are in the same age range and back then they were young and stupid and probably didn't think people would remember them making anons horny for fun would be remembered ten years later in their adult lives.

>> No.54663089

>>54661331
Oh nonon bookniggas not like this

>> No.54663163

>>54642748
>Off-collab with someone random of her branch.
>Suddenly a male of Holostars enters the room.

I'll expect this thing to happen ASAP so everything becomes clear once and for all.

>> No.54663292

>>54662959
>She never claimed to be seiso or that she hates lewds stuff.
Yes, she did, for some years in a unpopular streaming site where she tried to make a hugbox community talking about how the evil 4channers made her do things she didn't want to do.

>> No.54663353

>>54663073
I'm a little older and there were more unironic pedos online acting in the open. But I never succumbed to their flirting or demands, it never crossed my mind. It was just gross and I actively avoided it as best I could. Saying they were young and the internet was old is not a good excuse.

>> No.54663417

>>54642748
Schizos are mad because they're schizos. They want to force a decad-s outdated idea of how meatspace aidorus work onto livestreamers that are not even implied to be aidorus and the fact reality doesn't conform to their delusions tears at them, but sadly but enough for them to An Hero and stop wasting bandwidth.

>> No.54663478

>>54662959
>>54663292
>>54663073
Just sounds like a really manipulative person when you put her debut into that context.

>> No.54663552

If you hadn't already been filtered out by her shitty ESL voice then you deserve to be cucked.

>> No.54663571

>>54663417
You missed the relevant posts. It has kind of gone beyond schizos and their incorrect application of idol culture.

>> No.54663676

>>54660891
samefag

>> No.54663750

>>54663676
Damn, we've got a real genius here.

>> No.54663777

>>54663552
Her slides are full of mistakes too. It doesn't matter since she decided to play more into a dopey young role than a bookworm. But it's just not for me.

>> No.54663854

>>54652334
The whole point of a date is to find out whether or not you want to continue seeing and getting to know the person you're dating. If they do or say something that sets off red flags for you, feel free to break up with and stop seeing them. She did literally nothing wrong by stating her intentions this early.

>> No.54664517

>>54659161
>she did not say who the collab partners are
And she doesn't have to. Her collab partners are whoever she ends up collabing with, whether male or female, and she has specifically told you to respect those decisions.

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>>54642748

>> No.54664769

>>54644782
This Vtuber is not lit. She specifically danced around not reading novels.
Audiobooks is watching TV while you are sleeping.

>> No.54664857

>>54658552
>She doesn't want your money
Lol
Lmao even

>> No.54665016

>>54664769
If she actually read books maybe her slides wouldn't have had so many spelling mistakes.

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>>54664561
>self doxxing like this
that was quick

>> No.54665415

>>54642748
She has bad taste in literature. She will never be /lit/.

>> No.54665497

>>54645030
Have you ever head of Queen Ophelia III? She's an actual librarian and reads classics.

>> No.54665500

I really like her. She's kinda like Fauna but crazier and visibly gothic. Also she will do varied content, which is awesome. I'm looking forward to the Vlogs and love that she likes books. Also she likes broken jaded men that she can fix, and I need fixing

>> No.54666132

>>54645030
Couldn't find it on Audible.

>> No.54667034

>>54665500
Her voice sounds bad compared to Fauna's sex voice. Maybe she can she will warm p to me, we'll see.

>> No.54667292

I could forgive a whole lot if she gets her gen into doing plays

I've wanted Myth to do Tempest for quite some time now

>> No.54667598

I don't know why so many of them force a squeaky nasal voice. It's that bad EN dub voice that all the amateurish early anime dubs did. Maybe that PL stuff was true and she wants to be seen as the cutest girl.

Do anons really want more squeakers?

>> No.54667667

>>54661895
Post proof faggot
Yeah you wont

>> No.54667686

>>54667292
Honestly why havent they done this? I'd watch watch holos do some Shakespeare or something. Would be funny.
>Gura as Richard the 3rd

>> No.54667921

Enjoy her, I guess. She seemed super bland, had little to no energy, her 'voices' were not great, and her 'Haha you can fix me' was completely forced. I don't mind if you're actually a 'you can fix me!' type, but just saying over and over doesn't make it so.

>> No.54668687

>>54667667
Of course I'm not going to post the videos. That's literal child porn you retard. All I can do is give you the connections.

>> No.54669750

>>54648767
>required reading for all middle school american students
this is absolutely what stuck out to me, too. I've basically read every book she listed, and I'm not particularly /lit/ at all. they're literally all books you'd find kids reading in middle or high school, some as part of the curriculum (well this was at least true 5-10 years ago). granted, I don't know if she came from an explicitly Western background, and may have had to actually seek those (audio)books out herself.

>> No.54670419

>>54642748
My queen.

>> No.54670764

>>54665359
kek

>> No.54670882

>>54648767
Maybe they were 20 years ago, but now they're problematic. The current curriculum in California does not include a single book that was written before 2016.

>> No.54671097

>>54644501
>good things
>diversity and inclusion
> said by a screeching harpy

>> No.54671509

>>54665497
Interesting, I'll check her out.

>> No.54673564

>my body my choice
>admires Kronii
It's so fucking over lol, if not for Bijou yesterday would have been a complete loss.

>> No.54676190

>>54642748
/lit/ would hate her.

>> No.54676798

>>54645030
>>classical literature in 2023
trash taste. At this point those are only intended to be foundations to start reading what people have been inspired to make based on advancing those concepts.

>> No.54676880

>>54676798
Nah retard.

>> No.54677284

>>54676798
Classics still hold up today and can't just be replaced by modern books. That's why they're classics.

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