Respect my collab choices

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Respect my collab choices Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 04:42:51 No.54617262 [Reply] [Original]

>Respect my collab choices
Oh no no no

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 04:44:25 No.54617555 File: 136 KB, 700x675, 1688184810089903.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] YABBA DABBA DOO!

Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 04:48:19 No.54618302

>>54617262
I really really hope she only meant her female indie friends and no one else.

I don't like this either but atleast it beats completely discarding all of her previous friends or playing with them behind everyones back without telling, like some other girls do

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 04:49:31 No.54618532 >>54617262 those words will haunt her for the rest of her short stay, unless she clarifies what she meant

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 04:49:46 No.54618563 >>54617555 >>54617262 Eat shit and die, Homobeggar

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 04:49:49 No.54618571 >mori in chat what a nightmare. i feel bad because of how amazing bijou was, hope SOMEONE gives her a chance and she does well

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 04:50:38 No.54618695 >>54618571 Mori is doing the watchalong tomorrow. Does that mean both debuts are ruined? >>54617262 >If she is upfront about her collab choices on debut like Bae then it's ok Any other lies?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 04:50:48 No.54618726 >>54617262 >Bae 2.0 Already the runt of this Gen

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 04:53:33 No.54619195 This proves that Hololive doesn't care if chuubas lose their gachikoi contingent if they male-collab. Huge L for unicorns even though I dislike homobeggars as well

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 04:54:17 No.54619309 >>54617262 They should make a oshi verification as one of the hiring process, if they write Mori, Kronii, Bae, Ollie, Matsuri and Towa they should be sent to home

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 04:54:26 No.54619334 Unsubscribed

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 04:56:28 No.54619656 >>54617262 She just wants to collab with Pending. Come on now!

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 04:58:03 No.54619905 Mori probably knew

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 04:59:00 No.54620055 >>54617262 Owari da

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 05:01:14 No.54620425 I'm just glad she's saying this up front to filter out all the mentally ill asylum patients.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 05:02:46 No.54620673 >>54619309 Right. And we hire them, when they say Vesper, Dez, Altare or Axel.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 05:03:15 No.54620752 File: 354 KB, 1380x860, Shiricicle.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>54617262

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 05:03:32 No.54620788 >>54620425 If you watch just 5 more clips your beloved homos won't graduate, i promise!

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 05:03:44 No.54620818 >>54618695 Where's the lie? She's not going to get any antis from this she's just going to take an early hit to her numbers because people know not to waste their time with her

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 05:05:00 No.54621013 File: 1.27 MB, 1762x4568, CE5B6002-7535-48B0-A8DB-F89FED759085.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>54620425 Homobeggars aren’t any better.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 05:06:30 No.54621265 >>54620425 The biggest holos pander to those same mentally ill asylum patient, if you don't want to deal with your main clientele then why the fuck did you enter

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 05:11:54 No.54622049 >>54617262 ITT: HomoShits SEETHING

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 05:12:29 No.54622133 >>54617262 This is sounding like "my body my choices" kek

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 05:13:24 No.54622271 >>54620752 >Rough oral correction. kek, my sides

Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 05:13:54 No.54622332
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>let's have our date teehee~
>btw you better be ok with me seeing other men incel
Why are the EN homo collabers the ones that are most blatant about GFE stuff? I just don't understand it. Pick a fucking lane.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 05:15:16 No.54622511 File: 644 KB, 695x693, Gkxykc252.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>54617262

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 05:15:33 No.54622553 Time to rev the clips up >You have to respect my collab choices Easy headline, eye catching and already a red flag Hope it crashes and burns for her.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 05:16:31 No.54622685 >>54620425 This entire industry and genre only exists because of lonely men

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 05:16:40 No.54622703 >>54620425 >filter lol we're not going anywhere

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 05:17:06 No.54622765 File: 68 KB, 1032x373, 1684424210934230.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >respect my collab choices

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 05:17:18 No.54622793 >>54622511 QUEEN OF ORAL/vt/

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 05:17:24 No.54622808 >>54622511 If nothing else she speedran getting on the list pretty fast. Almost tool assisted.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 05:17:48 No.54622865 >days/hours/minutes/seconds since Homobeggars bitch about girls

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 05:19:18 No.54623059 >>54622511 Mori 2.0 already showed her colors, will Kronii 2.0 be the same?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 05:19:27 No.54623070 >>54617262 fucking yikes

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 05:21:58 No.54623362 >sisters already trying to take her down don't you have a vox yab to deflect from?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 05:24:53 No.54623753 >>54622511 she didn't even say that

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 05:28:18 No.54624184 File: 484 KB, 695x693, 1690694650633645.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>54617262

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 05:33:20 No.54624844 >>54623059 i pray crownii will be the perfect kronii and not acknowledge males then i can switch my membs from the clock to the bird

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 05:34:54 No.54625041 >>54623753 /vt/ told me she did

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 05:37:03 No.54625327 >>54619195 At the end of the day HoloTalents are a social experiment. Those who graduate or get terminated failed.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 05:40:18 No.54625689 >>54617262 Dodged a bullet here ! For once I am glad I can't watch because time zone

Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 05:41:28 No.54625819

>>54617262
If she did a book Collab with Vesper after the debut ban nobody would give a shit but sisters, it makes sense. Talking down to her audience before anything has even happened is just shitty behavior, and it was one of her ending notes too, this was something she wanted to draw emphasis too not just some stupid in the moment autism. Why should I waste time on a girl like that at all, let alone all the shit Indies she's looking forward collabing with over her the company she just joined.
Good boy, bad boy, it's irrelevant, I don't want to be your anything.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 05:51:40 No.54626958 >>54622865 You think most of these Anons are Tempus fans kek I'm pretty sure 88% of them are unicucks

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 05:54:16 No.54627277 >>54625819 Politely asking your audience in a non demeaning manor is not talking down your just fragile

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 05:58:54 No.54627818 >>54627277 Not being able to read between the lines is a sign of autism anon, you should get that checked out. No matter how she tarts it up she's going into this with a measure of contempt for her viewers.

Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 06:00:50 No.54628049

>>54627277
The loli didn't do it and I bet the twins wouldn't too, the other one maybe, when only you do it maybe the problem is them not the audience who didn't do nothing yet
It's like you enter a plane and the steward say to not shit on the seat, they aren't talking down to you but it's unnecessary

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 06:05:25 No.54628557 File: 87 KB, 305x313, 1690431082999816.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>54617262 Me and Shiori are going to have one HELL OF A TIME when I get back.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 06:09:59 No.54629025 >>54628557 He would be a fool to give up all of the power and knowledge he's gained over the years, but as a fellow wizard, would totally also do it.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 06:21:06 No.54630150 >>54617262 i'm glad she admitted this so i didn't waste my time.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 06:28:12 No.54630779 >>54620425 >t. Mentally ill hypocrite.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 06:31:20 No.54631089 >>54628557 YABBA DABBA DO

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 06:36:23 No.54631543 >>54618695 Bae was upfront about liking stars and gushed about them cause she‘s a fan. Shiori assumed her fans would dislike her collab choices without clarifying why that might be, very differently handled from Bae and far more combative.

Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 06:37:39 No.54631657

I find it hilarious that people watching cute anime girl streamers are trying to call each other mentally ill.
Like, we know why you're here. The streamers know why their designs are sexy. She knows why she calls it a "date" in the debut.
I prefer people who are honest about their sexual attraction rather than the ones who bend backwards to deny what they are doing.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 06:39:47 No.54631876 >>54631657 No dont you see? I dont mind male collabs so despite me watching vtubers for most of the day i am actually a well adjusted normie unlike those incel unicorns

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 06:40:46 No.54631974 >>54631876 Hard to tell if that's sarcasm or retardation since it's the internet.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 06:46:38 No.54632478 >>54617262 No, I don't think I will.

Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 06:47:15 No.54632529

>>54631657
Self-conceit is a powerful thing. Many people don't want to admit that they're weeb losers who jerk off to anime girls. It's like people who insist that they read playboy "for the articles".
The thing is that they genuinely believe this to be true. They've successfully brainwashed themselves so they don't have to confront reality. When they then find people who accept their own nature, they get very upset because it reminds them of the truth hidden deep down.

Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 06:50:33 No.54632788

>>54617262
Imagine being so fucking entitled to drop this line on your debut. Bitch you're here to entertain. You're not doing anyone a favour by streaming, the audience is doing you a favour by spending their time with you. YOU are the one that needs to show respect.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 06:53:10 No.54632999 >>54631657 Her general is legit amazing, reads more like twitter or reddit than anything else.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 06:56:10 No.54633253 >>54617262 her debut was so boring I didn't hear this at all any timestamp?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 07:01:21 No.54633667 >>54628557 >>54629025 TURN BACK. DON'T GIVE UP ON THE WIZARD LIFE.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 07:03:14 No.54633822 >>54617262 It's so tiresome

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 07:04:44 No.54633944 >>54633667 As a wizard myself I can say that unfathomable knowledge and limitless power is nothing compared to not being lonely.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 07:04:51 No.54633956 Did she actually get herself added to the 4x4 of fanbase betrayal on her fucking debut stream?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 07:06:38 No.54634100 >>54618563 isn't karma great? they say the more you gloat the bigger it expands

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 07:07:40 No.54634181 >>54632788 >Bitch you're here to entertain yeah, not people like (You) that's for sure

Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 07:07:41 No.54634183

>>54622332
Entitlement.
Women in the west have been put on such a pedestal that they expect shit they don't deserve.
Cake and eat it mentality.
The Principles of Hoeflation: (mainly applicable to white women)
>you have to work 20 times as hard as your grandfather did for a woman that's 20 times less quality than your grandmother was
raised in the west asians take to this as well, though since they're in less demand in general there it's funny when they try to play the same game white women do.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 07:15:50 No.54634785 >>54617262 I RESPECC >>54617555 yess

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 07:29:58 No.54635678 This phrase is unironically gonna be this gen's version of "Improve yourself" isn't it

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 07:35:22 No.54636070 File: 8 KB, 260x194, lol.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>54618302 XD

Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 07:39:47 No.54636360

>>54634181
Is she going to be someone you particularly support? If so, what are some of the appeals you have noticed?
She is definitely entitled. She just talked about herself without trying to appeal to anything while expecting something from first time viewers who didn't even ask

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 07:41:33 No.54636473 >>54636360 >Setting up boundaries makes you entitled

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 07:43:02 No.54636573 >>54636360 she seemed like a cute /lit/ dork and I liked the gfe hints, hoping this was just her being an autist and wording things poorly

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 07:43:04 No.54636575 File: 97 KB, 523x521, 1614265650998.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>54620425 >filter out all the mentally ill asylum patients >converted them into antis instead Not_a_great_plan.gif

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 07:43:24 No.54636592 >>54631543 that's why no one watches Bae

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 07:45:10 No.54636694 File: 245 KB, 602x682, spidey.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>54628557

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 07:45:17 No.54636704 >>54618302 Anon, her best friend, pending, the one that shows up in most of her collabs, is male. Literal soft boy too.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 07:46:12 No.54636757 >>54636473 When nobody else does it, yes

Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 07:46:34 No.54636788

>>54635678
My oshi became subject over a controversy over half a year ago due to a genuine fuckup. Despite her liking Shiori so far, if it's what it takes for people to move on entirely from my oshi's lapse in judgment entirely, I will anti with the wrath of 1000 unicorns.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 07:46:37 No.54636793 >>54636704 >soft boy do you mean he's a fag or what exactly

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 07:47:31 No.54636839 >Improve yourselves >Don't you guys have friends!? >We can't be friends, we SHOULDN'T be friends. >Respect my Collab choices.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 07:51:56 No.54637109 >>54636839 You'd think unicorns would finally learn something

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 07:54:36 No.54637248 File: 165 KB, 595x553, milordowned.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>54637109 Sis... have YOU learned?

Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 07:55:15 No.54637286
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Phase and Idol are so much better at picking up talent than Cover. They got lucky with Gura but most of their picks have been subpar. Meanwhile every girl Phase and Idol pick are so entertaining and lovable. You give them a chance and you are instantly hooked. The EN side of Hololive is a trainwreck and Tempiss didn't help their case either.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 07:57:35 No.54637415 >>54637286 Drinking piss and lying about being single aren't examples of talent, anon

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 07:58:29 No.54637466 >>54637248 >Ninji Not relevant to the thread

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 08:00:25 No.54637571 >>54637286 I'm an idol fan and we got Rin so something you're saying isn't adding up

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 08:02:41 No.54637694 >>54618302 You just know it will not be girls only or she wouldn't have warned you this bad

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 08:03:30 No.54637753 >>54635678 And have you improved yourself in any way since then?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 08:06:32 No.54637892 Shiori or management is deleting dissenting comments. I made a comment criticising the husbando list and her collab rant right after the debut ended and it was deleted just now, shortly after it started to gain some traction and getting likes.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 08:07:36 No.54637951 >>54637892 >Getting likes Lemao you would've been shat on my guy

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 08:08:37 No.54638013 >>54637248 >Using a Nijicorn as a counter argument Lol

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 08:09:29 No.54638062 >>54637248 vox is a weird person

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 08:09:37 No.54638070 >>54637571 As a boobro at least Rin is legitimately entertaining and fits her model (whether that's good or bad is up to you), while this bitch on the other hand doesn't do either

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 08:11:18 No.54638165 >>54637951 Eh, any conflict is good. Let your opinion be heard

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 08:11:33 No.54638181 >>54637951 Doubt. The people that would've bothered to downboat him wouldn't have watched the debut but rather waited for the heckin cliperinos of the debut, or just posted in a twitter thread of a screenshot of the debut.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 08:11:56 No.54638202 >>54637951 As if I'd care lmao. It happened with my comment back on Amelia's "improve yourself" stream and I btfo'd every homobeggar including Amelia herself.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 08:12:09 No.54638209 File: 198 KB, 792x700, 1682780053992489.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>54622332 Same reason why the best porn stars have fucked tons of men.

Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 08:13:07 No.54638268

>>54638062
Not weird, he's just a female Findabbadingdong and hops from opinion to opinion, activity to activity, sometimes even at the same time.
You know the name for this.
Kind of sad to be honest. I liked both early on and both went down the shitter with each of the dumb things they separately did to their communities.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 08:13:45 No.54638306 >>54632788 She is one of the first EN chuubas she is not gonna take shit from a bunch of late comers.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 08:15:14 No.54638392 >>54638306 She's iron mouse?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 08:16:26 No.54638447 >>54637415 That sounds better than doing nothing interesting at all and not even pretending to be single.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 08:17:40 No.54638519 >>54635678 Raven girl will do something more controversial.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 08:17:51 No.54638529 >>54637248 >"here's my argument cuck" >posts a twitter screenshot of a niji These niggers are fucking retarded dear god

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 08:19:06 No.54638583 >>54637248 Glass box?

Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 08:20:31 No.54638658

>>54636473
she didn't set up any boundary, she just basically said "don't complain about my collab choices" which serves no purpose other than coming off as an annoying red flag to the viewer. What vtuber wants their audience to be disrespectful to their collab partners?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 08:22:19 No.54638782 >>54638658 >Please be respectful >Setting a rule or boundary That's literally what she did.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 08:24:42 No.54638919 >>54638782 are you autistic?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 08:26:16 No.54639008 >>54638919 >Vtuber tells you to be nice, kind, respectful, etc >Literally in the rules of their streams >Shiori does the same thing asking for the viewers to be respectful >Somehow it's different Disprove the above and stop deflecting.

Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 08:30:52 No.54639229

>>54639008
Context you fucking imbecile. She said to be respectful towards who she collabs with, which is a bizarre specification to make since the only time a collab would cause problems is if it's with a controversial party and lord knows the biggest controversy /here/(which she most definitely is) is males collabing with female vtubers

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 08:33:05 No.54639337 >>54638529 anon, being a whore watching cuck is a "you lose" state of any argument, because cucks aren't human and cannot be trusted

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 08:33:45 No.54639364 Imagine being told something that you should already be doing regardless. Jakartan and burgers are sad.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 08:34:26 No.54639399 >>54639229 Or it could be trans people which many have a negative idea of.

Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 08:34:38 No.54639407

>>54638919
First you rephrase her words to make it sound like she said something that she didn't and now you throw empty insults at whoever points out you're making shit up.
Stop assuming things and make opinions AFTER you watch somebody for a while.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 08:34:57 No.54639422 >>54639399 Is Artemis still around?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 08:39:05 No.54639639 >>54638202 >I'm like totally so popular!! Please believe me!!!

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 08:39:48 No.54639677 >>54639407 found another one

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 08:41:09 No.54639756 >>54639008 You don't think it's a little passive-aggressive to say "please be respectful" to a stranger you only just met? It's like going to a black neighborhood and asking the locals "please don't mug me"

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 08:49:16 No.54640173 >>54639422 Not that guy but I think she still streams. And there are trans chuubas that are more popular than her.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 08:51:59 No.54640325 >>54639756 You shouldn't go to certain neighborhoods if you aren't invited.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 08:58:04 No.54640681 >>54617555 KEK They shall be known as the Cuckellites

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 08:59:50 No.54640781 >>54618571 homobeggars and nijisisters can't support shit. Look at the dismal state of Nijisanji and how hard has Vox crashed. Not to mention they drove Mysta to graduate. GRIM days to be a sister.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 09:03:55 No.54641019 >>54636592 True but she was definitely honest about what she likes Shiori is too much of a coward to be that honest

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 09:06:45 No.54641179 >>54639639 /vt/ was fighting over my comment for like a whole day. Lmao. >>28410762

Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 09:12:04 No.54641446

>>54631543
>Shiori assumed her fans would dislike her collab choices without clarifying why that might be
There was a highly-upvoted containment breaking comment on the original video that basically said "do not collab with holostars" in reply to her own comment. It's highly likely that she saw it because it was very early in the chain. I suspect that might have been the catalyst for her weird statement.
Not that I think it means she wants stars collabs specifically, but it made her aware of expectations and thus felt the need to address it in some way. This strengthens male twitch indie rrats. I really hope not though.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 09:15:26 No.54641622 >>54637286 I'm surprised you didnt say Kawaii with how incel-leaning their fanbase is. Someone post that art of all of em with the signpost saying "No boys allowed except (You)

Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 09:35:13 No.54642702

Probably shit question, but why do people care so much about male collabs? I get that people want the idol experience but does it take more then half a brain cell to realize that they probably still have irl relationships and friends despite who the collabs are with?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 09:41:19 No.54643033 >>54642702 cool still not watching your faggots

Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 09:45:03 No.54643230

>>54642702
You certainly don't have enough brain cells to figure out the simple concept that people dissociate the person from the vtuber persona.
Nobody cares about their private life as long as it doesn't leak into their streaming and when it does it becomes just as big of a problem.
People want to fawn over the make-believe of a perfect anime girl, not some random ethot roastie. Fucking normalfags infesting this niche treating it like it's just normal streaming has been a disaster for the industry.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 09:47:14 No.54643325 >>54617262 The average male is so starved for positive attention that even a simple complement will get them to worship you left and right with money tributes.

Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 09:48:16 No.54643368

>>54642702
Culture dies at the hands of the outgroup getting in. Diversity isn't a strength, it's a destroyer, and if you don't figure that out while you're young you're going to be doing a lot of head-scratching throughout your life wondering why everything you enjoy keeps turning to shit.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 09:48:53 No.54643387 >>54643230 pretty sure vtubers before 2020 didn't treat it as a prostitution ring and just wanted to make content with an avatar. You're the invader here

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 09:49:05 No.54643401 >>54639229 >She collabs with ZylpheRenuis: The male Vtuber who hates Pikame How controversial can she get anons?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 09:51:10 No.54643500 >>54619656 fucking this!! sucks it's with a faggot

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 09:51:24 No.54643517 >>54643401 Otakmoriis her favorite clipper.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 09:51:24 No.54643516 >>54617262 Sorry, I won't respect your choice Join Vshojo if you want talent freedom

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 09:51:29 No.54643521 >>54617555 He's gonna be gone within a week.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 09:51:48 No.54643530 >>54642702 Watching Asmongold or Esfand hanging out with Emiru or Bonnie is one thing but watching anime avatars flirting with each other is peak cuck content. The worst content.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 09:53:40 No.54643603 >>54643387 Well you'd be wrong newfag.

Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 09:53:51 No.54643617

>>54643387
>newshit nigger spouting newshit faggotry
Yeah, pre2020 Hololive totally wasn't about Keyfabe. Kizuna Ai and her copycats totally weren't about Keyfabe.
>b-but muh random whores streaming for 3 people
kys and fuck off back to watching pokimane or whoever.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 09:53:57 No.54643619 >>54643530 get laid bruh

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 09:54:50 No.54643666 File: 4 KB, 278x181, download.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>54621013 Funny how sisters like>>54620425 always try to paint themselves as the superior fans, only to be disproved with a single screenshot. Good job, anon.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 09:58:03 No.54643814 >>54643617 >suddenly brings in "kayfabe" i thought you were talking about male collabs? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQn5JAFYayU quit being ugly then maybe girls will like you

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 10:05:03 No.54644164 File: 7 KB, 225x225, 1690630013850172.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>54643619 >normalfag insult

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 10:05:45 No.54644189 >>54643517 WTF I HATE HER NOW

Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 10:05:50 No.54644195

>>54642702
Short version is that your average holofan prefers gender-segregated content since it's so rare and carries a different atmosphere. What the streamers do in their own time is of no consequence to this crowd.
Sure, you have your unicorns and collab beggars too, but they're a tiny minority by comparison.
If you're asking specifically why they prefer this type of content, that's like asking why someone prefers carrots to cucumbers.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 10:07:33 No.54644276 Lmao, first time reading this board. Yep, I understand why people hate you now, what an absolute schizo board, kek.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 10:07:54 No.54644295 >>54643814 Girls liking me has git no relevance to enjoying my chuubas tard.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 10:08:46 No.54644346 File: 112 KB, 661x610, 1674309610104324.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>54644164 >abnormal deflection

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 10:09:59 No.54644413 >>54644276 Imagine caring about people liking you...

Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 10:13:19 No.54644553
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>>54644295
it does actually because you act like a bitter virgin without them. Does it make you angry that people with normal/successful lives enjoy vtubers and even watch more anime than you? The vtuber world never revolved around you

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 10:13:48 No.54644578 >>54644195 >different atmosphere You mean because they are dangerous incels. even people who have real girlfriends and get upset that they have platonic male friends are pathetic but this is just 10x more pathetic

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 10:14:48 No.54644627 >>54644553 >bitter roastie projecting lol lmao

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 10:17:23 No.54644762 >>54644627 >bitter virgin deflecting kek kekw do you have proof that pre-2020 vtubing is a unicorn squeezing superchat farm yet? Still waiting to see it

Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 10:19:02 No.54644859

>>54617262
her statement can easily be interpreted as a stance against collab beggars. sure, the first part sounded pro-collabs, but then why did she bother with "I need to study and understand the person well first"? that's more of an argument for why you wouldn't want to collab with someone.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 10:22:52 No.54645051 >>54644762 >braindead foid thinks she's talking to the same person

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 10:26:02 No.54645204 >>54644553 Nice larp lol

Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 10:26:19 No.54645213

>>54617262
Why the fuck would she say it like that?
Thats straight up "improve yourself" at her debut.
That also implies that theres something device about the people she wants to collab with? Why would you smear your coworkers like that?
Just say you are going to collab with homos wtf.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 10:26:49 No.54645240 File: 26 KB, 419x124, 1662086740400973.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>54645051 quit crying already

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 10:27:13 No.54645260 >>54644578 What are you even talking about?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 10:29:44 No.54645385 >>54618726 >runt has an EP oh you mean ccv? kek

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 10:30:49 No.54645443 >>54645240 >it's the same person if it's not a new IP in a thread with 90+ IPs You really need to go back.

Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 10:33:40 No.54645580

>>54644859
She might have been talking about collabing with people outside hololive, like old indie friends. I'm guessing a manager/rulebook told her something to the effect that outside collabs are permitted only on a case by case basis and require vetting the person first. And that statement she made was just paraphrasing that back.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 11:02:44 No.54646947 >>54622332 She wants the GFE money but doesn't wanna collab with only girls. Cake and eat it too, etc. Very typical.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 11:03:28 No.54646980 >>54617262 >>54617555 >nijiniggers are seething with impotent rage again

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 11:04:36 No.54647023 >>54645580 I'm like 90% sure this is what she meant but she worded it like a complete autist

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 11:24:07 No.54647906 >>54617555 GET OUT OF MY HEAD GET OUT OF MY HEAD GET OUT OF MY HEAD GET OUT OF MY HEAD GET OUT OF MY HEAD GET OUT OF MY HEAD GET OUT OF MY HEAD GET OUT OF MY HEAD GET OUT OF MY HEAD GET OUT OF MY HEAD GET OUT OF MY HEAD GET OUT OF MY HEAD

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 11:27:24 No.54648048 >>54646980 This makes absolutely 0 sense and you know that.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 11:33:39 No.54648318 literally just entered /vt/ and not understanding the entire backlash of shiori’s collab choices like just let her collab with whoever she wants man

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 11:44:06 No.54648761 >>54617262 >Demanding respect No. Respect is earned, not given. First of all stop pretending to be GFE if you want to be a whore. This girl just reeks of red flags from the get go.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 11:57:06 No.54649297 >>54642702 It's anticlimactic as fuck, like eating ice cream and suddenly having ketchup poured on it.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 12:11:45 No.54650150 >>54648761 >This girl just reeks of red flags from the get go. Just like every IRL goth girl.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 12:15:35 No.54650423 >>54642702 I wanna watch x-holomem, not be some third wheel in some weird date. Same for most girl-to-girl collabs too desu, overall I dont fancy collabs.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 12:15:44 No.54650431 >>54648318 go back, if you're gonna be GFE and pretend to be on a "first date" then you also need to understand that collabing with males goes against that idea fundamentally. There is no reason to respect a whore who also tries to pander.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 12:23:03 No.54650938 >>54642702 Her possibly collabing with tempiss/poop is really not that big of a deal. Most people however are worried that she will force collabs with her PL clique for the ultimate NTR experience.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 13:11:02 No.54654436 It feels like the girls are more thirsty than the guys

Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 13:14:07 No.54654622

>>54650423
same - collabs feel like you just get thirdwheeled looking in on interactions you can't have - if thats with friends or with a romantic interest...
if collab then i actually like the podcast type where they just speak on girly topics and you sorta listen like its radio

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 13:14:47 No.54654656 >>54636592 don't listen to him Bae i watch you

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 13:19:08 No.54654916 >>54617555 If he doesn't graduate then expect him to join collabs with Mori, Kronii and now Shiori again after he returns.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 13:22:19 No.54655109 >>54617262 >wants all the benefits of being part of vtuber culture >also wants to stick to none of the expectations of vtuber culture entitled whore

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 13:30:16 No.54655585 >>54650431 gf exp what?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 13:32:13 No.54655699 >>54655109 how is wanting to collab with whoever she wants and do her own thing being an entitled whore?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 13:32:51 No.54655748 >>54655585 lurk more

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 13:33:22 No.54655783 >>54655699 did you even read your own post?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 13:40:43 No.54656239 >>54655783 yeah i did. and as an entertainer who is providing a service for all of us, she’s entitled to doing what she finds fun or interesting. she’s not a whore for that dude

Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 13:44:48 No.54656479

>>54656239
She's allowed to do whatever she wants sure, but whether she's a whore or not depends on who you ask and a lot of her audience would agree she's entitled and whorish if she just does whatever she wants without thinking about how it affects her fans.

Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 13:50:32 No.54656873

>>54656479
there are boundaries to be set between performer and viewers. it seems most people here are on the border of entering parasocial relationships with fictional characters lmao. plus she doesn’t really do anything sexual for money nor does she use her talents unworthily for financial gain, so she doesn’t really qualify for the definition of a whore. collating with male vtubers like tempus and all doesn’t hurt anyone who wasn’t already crazy to begin with

Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 13:53:59 No.54657124

>>54656873
You need to understand that "parasocial relationships" are literally all that vtubers are. You might think that people who engage in such things are crazy or stupid or something, but that doesn't change the fact that it's literally the main audience for vtubers. They get most of their money, fame, and engagement from lonely men who need something to fill the void. Vtubing is in effect just an anime girl gf experience and denying that is delusional.

Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 14:08:57 No.54658106

>>54657124
nope. asserting that vtubing is an anime girl gf experience is delusional. vtubers, like all other content creators, are there to entertain, but they are free to choose what kind of entertainment they choose to provide. unless explicitly told, vtubing is not a parasocial relationship, that’s just what weirdos want to believe to not confront their hard realities. lick your wounds on your own time, but don’t drag down people who just want to have fun down with you

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 14:09:36 No.54658141 >>54658106 cope It's the truth.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 14:10:15 No.54658207 >>54658141 what?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 14:10:34 No.54658225 >>54655109 >>wants all the benefits of being part of vtuber culture >>also wants to stick to none of the expectations of vtuber culture Are you implying all vtubers are idols?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 14:11:43 No.54658296 >>54645240 >everyone who disagrees with me must be lurking and only post once in a thread retard

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 14:16:07 No.54658600 >>54658207 Why do you think then that female vtubers are FAR more popular than male streamers? Why even have an anime character in the first place? It's all there to attract this specific audience. Denying it is utterly delusional.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 14:16:47 No.54658652 >>54658600 male vtubers* specifically sorry

Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 14:24:42 No.54659168

>>54658600
except for all of the people who like anime and want to use anime avatars. or simply prefer to have privacy and not show their faces online, which many people do. seriously, the fact that there are people trying to defend these clearly sick people and justify harassment and insulting just goes to show that humanity should go extinct. the sick feeding the sick

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 14:26:04 No.54659259 >>54655585 Go back

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 14:27:11 No.54659338 >>54659168 sure bro, that explains the difference between male and female vtubers. Definitely only the IRONIC weebs are spending money on these streamers as a joke.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 14:42:36 No.54660363 >>54659338 this is what happens when you give people the internet bro. you don’t like shiori? leave. just keep your harassment and temper tantrums to yourself

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 14:45:06 No.54660542 >>54660363 Ok? I wasn't claiming anything. I was just telling you the fact that the majority of the vtuber audience uses them as a parasocial relationship intentionally.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 14:49:46 No.54660840 What a high quality thread posted by a real holofan and totally not a falseflagging Nijikek!

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 14:50:45 No.54660913 >>54660363 >you don’t like shiori? leave. Yeah that's exactly what people are gonna do. No refunds!

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 14:53:04 No.54661036 >>54631657 Not being able to understand that there are degrees of things is quite literally autistic, anon. It's also very autisitic to think that everyone thinks exactly like you do. There is not one type of weeb

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 14:56:33 No.54661226 >>54646947 >>54622332 this made me think, is there any ntr vtuber in hololive? I feel like cover wouldn't allow it

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 15:00:14 No.54661458 File: 2.11 MB, 640x362, hgmc56u.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>54617262

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 15:00:54 No.54661494 >>54642702 men and women can't be just friends

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 15:02:07 No.54661564 >this entire thread hololive antis really have no shame huh

Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 15:05:10 No.54661752

>>54661036
It is precisely because not everyone thinks like I do. Someone else made a great analogy. It's the equivalent of self-conceited posers going to pornhub or nhentai to preach Jesus in the comments. Now, that would be understandable if they are posturing to twitter followers or some women they want to impress. But it is sheer posturing nonetheless.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 15:06:29 No.54661840 >>54620752 smooching after you nut in her mouth gay

Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 15:09:12 No.54662007

>>54661036
There's a difference between claiming there is only one type of weeb and understanding that the majority of an audience is made up by a certain type of person. Are there people who just put the girl's streams on in the background? Yes. Do they make up the majority of the viewership and revenue? No.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 15:09:47 No.54662044 >>54617262 there is no way she said that

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 15:13:17 No.54662274 Bro the Nerissa is a Mori but with seiyū experience , and Shiori is a discount Kronni with the NTR experience but without the sex voice

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 15:14:44 No.54662367 >>54658225 Successfull vtubers are a anime (larger than life, keeping kayfabe) character roleplay. That's the formula of hololive domination. Unsuccessful vtubers are mostly just normal streamers with a anime avatar.

Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 15:17:30 No.54662570

>>54662367
/u/posters go away, there are anime with casts that aren't exclusively cute girls and half of JP has interacted with dirty males on multiple occasions
demanding personal distance is fine, obviously, but don't pretend what you're advocating is anything other than what it is (rank jealousy & tribalism), be honest with your a/u/tism

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 15:18:15 No.54662621 Meh. Her voice had already filtered me out before she dropped this. Seems like every corpo has these semi-high pitched nasal sounding ESL tyles flooding them these days. Figured Hololive could do a little better than that, but alas.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 15:18:58 No.54662672 Cope, copepods.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 15:24:09 No.54663014 >>54662044 she said >About collabs >don't be disrespectful to people near me >I won't tolerate disrespect

Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 15:31:45 No.54663535

>>54662570

Dude, you need to look at actual popular anime characters and how you can "do them" as a streamer.
Streamers are all about chat and gaming, this mean looking at "comedy" characters... and guess what, nearly all popular comedy anime got a full fermale cast.
Because anime girl + anime girl produce comedy, but anime girl + anime boy produce romance.

This is also the reason why male vtubers are hopless, they are supposed to do "goku" but can't do it by gaming/chatting, they can only be "normal dude but anime avatar" or be fujo gay.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 15:35:01 No.54663744 >>54663014 that's common. even kuzuha said it multiple times about his male collab partners like ka4en or shaka. Don't be disrepctful to them just because they do a jab or lowblow at kuzuha he is a big boy and does the same thing to them.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 15:35:58 No.54663803 >>54617555 LMAAOOOOO NO WAY

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 15:36:57 No.54663861 >>54663535 You're genuinely delusional. Go look at any ranking of the most popular comedy anime and they're filled with men. Even Nichijou has guys in it, ffs

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 15:37:51 No.54663920 >>54661226 >I feel like cover wouldn't allow it why?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 15:38:04 No.54663935 >>54617262 >DEAD on debut >cuckolding >made for BBC >NTR >Holmos >respect my collab choices >fujo

Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 15:38:31 No.54663963

>>54663535
>Streamers are all about chat and gaming, this mean looking at "comedy" characters... and guess what, nearly all popular comedy anime got a full fermale cast.
yeah, like Gintama, Cromartie, Saiki K, Konosuba, Prison School, etc. fucking retard, I repeat: CGDCT isn't the only type of anime that exists
>This is also the reason why male vtubers are hopless, they are supposed to do "goku" but can't do it by gaming/chatting, they can only be "normal dude but anime avatar" or be fujo gay.
very roundabout way to say "the biggest JP male vtubers are FPS grinders who are actually good at videogames, while exactly zero corpo EN vtubers are actually good at videogames, and they barely stream any hours in comparison"

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 15:39:07 No.54664004 I don't get why she would say that AFTER the GFE pandering and swallowing. Too many mixed signals.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 15:39:12 No.54664008 >>54663920 because holos don't talk about sex with males? quite clearly a cover policy

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 15:39:18 No.54664018 File: 180 KB, 806x663, 1690689014151834.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>54663861 >watching a live interactive experience is the same as watching scripted shows

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 15:39:42 No.54664042 >>54643666 Many such cases

Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 15:40:35 No.54664105

>>54662367
How did you move the goalpost from
>wants all the benefits of being part of vtuber culture
>also wants to stick to none of the expectations of vtuber culture

to

>Successfull vtubers are a anime (larger than life, keeping kayfabe) character roleplay.
That's the formula of hololive domination.

These 2 concepts are unrelated to each other.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 15:40:44 No.54664116 >>54617262 Didn't you fuckers say you wanted the chuubas to let you know early on they're gonna collab with... le males, so that it doesn't come as a surprise like Ame or Kronii This is as early as it can get, what's wrong now

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 15:41:37 No.54664172 >>54617262 I can't believe she said BLACK LIVES MATTER on her debut.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 15:41:47 No.54664179 >>54664008 ntr isn't always about sex Marine likes NTR for example

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 15:42:48 No.54664236 >>54664018 You're the one who brought up anime as a comparison retard.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 15:43:55 No.54664308 >>54664179 sure, but has she or any other holo done GFE but about cucking the viewer?

Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 15:44:20 No.54664347

>>54617262
I dont understand the entire "argument" culture on /vt/. You never convince of people of your POV by arguing against them. You should just reinforce their POV. You need to see their side and be emphatic to change their mind.

With that said:
People who like her will keep watching, people who dont wont.

Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 15:45:32 No.54664415

>>54617262
It wasn't about respecting her collab choices. The nuance was that if she collabs with people then she's getting close to them. That's what she kept on emphasizing, the more she collabs the more it means they're her actual friends. Also she hopes to travel and meet other holos.

Now consider the rrat that she has historically been into gangbangs and dominating other women during them and posting about it on 4chan.

Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 15:46:07 No.54664453

>>54663963
>>54663861
You make my point.

How the hell do you make a cromartie or gintama vtuber? How do you do a kazuma (a not fully self insert harem protag) vtuber?
You can't, the comedy is not in the characters, is in the scenario/gags, is also a team work by all the cast.

They can't exist alone behind a pc, a cute girl comedian can.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 15:46:17 No.54664461 >>54664308 According to people like you that's Kronii's and Ame's niche. Which to put it simply, it doesn't matter to you because you're already convinced of it.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 15:46:44 No.54664495 >>54664116 No one said people wouldn't vent about it at first. You expected everyone to go "Well golly gee, good to know that madame Novella has different plans for her small career, don't mind me!"?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 15:47:39 No.54664547 >>54656239 Consequences to one's actions is normal.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 15:47:42 No.54664550 >>54664172 unsubbing and disliking would be a wise choice

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 15:49:16 No.54664658 >>54664236 I am not the anon you replied to. Just jumping in to say that whole comparison is retarded

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 15:50:43 No.54664742 >>54664453 So you want more scripted streams?

Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 15:51:57 No.54664823

>>54663963
they really do try to ride the famous comedy train but it doesn't work. Zatsudan with a mundharmonika, eating bugs, letting yourself be electruded by someone else, putting some plastic sushi in your urethra. Can you name the holomems? I've seen it all and pekoras simple slapstick still is better.

Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 15:52:32 No.54664859

>>54664453
>How the hell do you make a cromartie or gintama vtuber? How do you do a kazuma (a not fully self insert harem protag) vtuber?
Kazuma has a very distinct, deeply flawed character that no one should want to self insert as unless they are a fucking loser, though it makes him endearing
>You can't, the comedy is not in the characters, is in the scenario/gags, is also a team work by all the cast.
"How could you ever be masculine AND funny!?" says more about you than it does about Hololive, especially
>scenario/gags
what the fuck do you think playing games on stream is for other than generating entertaining scenarios? This is literally the root of all Lets Plays, what sets them apart from a commentary-free longplay, it's why "Streamer Games" even exist. Gags? You aren't legally permitted to crack a joke during a Zatsudan unless provoked by big floppy titties?
retarded & gay

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 15:52:35 No.54664863 >>54664495 Of course I expected that. But you know how it is in this site. Initial "vents" actually translate into years-long grudges, which is why I'm saying this.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 16:01:26 No.54665395 >>54664859 Dude. One, you are not really tellin me how can a cromartie vtuber can work for content. Two, those anime avatar guys who play apex are... masculine to you? They are CRINGE.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 16:01:47 No.54665424 >>54664308 Kronni with Vesper and Ame doing romantic karaoke songs with Altare

Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 16:08:05 No.54665806
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I've been here for years and I still don't understand the hate for men. You all sound like fucking braindead feminists who scream and cry at the simple prospect of a male.
Is that what it is? Is this board made up of landwhales? I thought you were all guys. Guess I was wrong.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 16:09:15 No.54665874 >>54665806 go back

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 16:09:47 No.54665908 >>54665874 Go back where? I've been on 4chan for a decade

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 16:11:20 No.54666008 >>54665908 don't you think it would be time to go outside then?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 16:11:44 No.54666033 >>54666008 Probably. Maybe you should join me

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 16:12:23 No.54666065 >>54665806 sure tourist the fact that you can't differentiate between hating males and idol culture means you should go back

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 16:13:28 No.54666138 >>54666033 I go out daily

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 16:13:32 No.54666142 >>54666065 >Idol culture Actual idols in Japan do interviews and shit with men all the time. Do your research before being brainwashed by the western masses here making shit up.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 16:14:28 No.54666212 >>54665424 >Romantic karaoke songs with altare Incredible reality warping powers anon

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 16:15:14 No.54666271 >>54666065 >>54666142 /vt/ doesn't understand idol culture, they don't like idols and the chuubas aren't idols, they just want an excuse

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 16:15:59 No.54666317 File: 32 KB, 633x791, 1679131584222952.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>54666142 >interviews are the same as gaming or hanging out together for multiple hours

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 16:16:23 No.54666337 >>54617555 >Immediately comes back from suspension to defy management one last time by breaking the Collab ban and being Shiori's first Collab partner.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 16:16:50 No.54666363 >>54666142 Sure, and Gura got interviewed by some youtube guy and there's no lasting problem. You should really go back if you don't understand the distinction between that and male vtubers. Jesus, this glowing attempt at blending in.

Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 16:16:59 No.54666373

Can someone sum up for me what exactly the problem is with her, or her audience, or collab choices, or whatever the fuck's goin' on? I heard about this chick like 5 minutes ago from some "Get me pregnant" meme and now I'm lost and confused. I know jack shit about vtuber culture n' whatnot so please explain to me like I'm 5 as I am mentally handicapped

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 16:17:38 No.54666422 >>54666363 >Jesus, this glowing attempt at blending in. Yeah you're doing a pretty poor job. Maybe try again tonight, champ!

Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 16:18:52 No.54666510

>>54666373
She said to respect her collab choices. She did not explain what this means despite it potentially meaning any number of things.
/vt/ has chosen to believe it means she wants to collab with males despite not evidence of her wanting to. In some peoples eyes a girl collabing with a guy is disgusting.

Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 16:19:29 No.54666554

>>54666373
>new girl debuts
>calls her stream a "date", setting a certain expectation
>goes against said expectation, in a way that might be considered condescending, in the said stream
Is basically the gist of it. You don't flirt with your audience and then tell them that you'll be collabing with your streamer friends, some of which are men, who you were acquittanced with before joining Hololive

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 16:19:36 No.54666563 >"what an entitled bitch" said the entitled shitposter throwing a fit because a woman was asking you to be polite and respectful

Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 16:19:56 No.54666576

>>54666142
Hololive's success was built on idol culture and nobody cares gives a fuck about professional interviews. That's why Kiara interviewing Yagoo didn't raise a single eyebrow. Male collabs are pure cancer and have to be eliminated at all costs to maintain Hololive's purity, however.

>>54666271
You don't understand idol culture, you don't like idols, and you just want an excuse.

Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 16:20:24 No.54666608

>>54666373
hololive fans sperg out when their vtubers collab with men to the point that the company has had to put out public statements begging the fans to stop harassing their own chuubas over it
in her debut stream shiori asked her fans to respect her collab partners
hope this helps

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 16:20:40 No.54666626 >>54666373 Apparently she's an abusive/predatory person. So when she says that she will collab with people she actually meets then it means she will drag her gen mates into her gangbangs.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 16:21:15 No.54666659 >>54666626 You should go back.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 16:22:02 No.54666706 File: 148 KB, 640x360, Hololive-VTuber-Uruha-Rushia.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>54661226 yes and yes

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 16:22:28 No.54666736 >>54666626 Woooooow it only took 24 hours for vt to pull schizo rrats out its ass this time that's a new record

Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 16:22:54 No.54666764

>>54666563
Telling someone to be polite and respectful towards you is pretty entitled desu. Nobody is entitled to being treated with politeness and respect. You have to earn that shit and Shiori isn't earning it so far. She has to prove herself first.

Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 16:23:16 No.54666785

>>54666576
>if I invert it then I have a point too
No.

You can't even name a single idol off the top of your head. You know it deep down inside as you consider googling some. When people talk about Hello! Project, Morning Musume, or even Denpagumi, you tune out, close the tab, find something else to do. You just want GFE and you want to be a GFE schizo but you need an excuse so you claim it's idol culture.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 16:23:31 No.54666802 >>54666608 good. customers should voice their concerns unless they want to see this hobby get ruined by ironic weebs and nyanners-type cuckoldry audience

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 16:23:39 No.54666808 >>54666706 Fuck off, BVTM

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 16:23:47 No.54666817 >>54666576 >to maintain Hololive's purity, You really just don't watch streams do you? >Hurrrrr only EN is lewd. Retarded EOP.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 16:24:02 No.54666835 >>54666138 yeah, out of the closet you fag

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 16:24:06 No.54666841 I don't feel good...

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 16:24:26 No.54666857 I don't want this talentless bitch anywhere near my homos. NO FEMALES NEAR MY MEN! STOP TAINTING THE STARS PURITY WITH SHIT TIER "ENTERTAINERS"

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 16:24:32 No.54666865 >>54666736 There were screencaps of her posts and vocaroos that seemed convincing, with the person responding to being called the same name as her PL.

Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 16:24:44 No.54666883
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So she's the target for falseflagging sisters/2views/small corpos? Because I saw her gain crazed schizos over her as soon as guys started paying more attention to her. What do you get out of larping as a unicorn for hours? Btvm is already deep into the larp.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 16:25:08 No.54666908 >>54666706 ok but cover didn't allow it

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 16:26:13 No.54666976 >"hololive girls should not be allowed to act and think for themselves they need to just shut up and sing and entertain" - /vt/ I'm starting to think vt thinks of these girls as just characters or sexual objects rather than people

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 16:26:22 No.54666988 >>54666337 the man who was too based to live

Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 16:26:39 No.54666997

>>54664116
>you wanted the chuubas let you know early on who they're gonna collab with
while true, but also MAKE IT CLEAR TOO
rock cunny had to emphasize for a few times about how she wants collabs with the girls
she however said to respect her collab choices with her "friends" which is gonna get (mis)understood in more ways than one

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 16:26:40 No.54667000 >>54666317 They're NOT FUCKING you absolute retard All those collabs are part of a BUSSINESS relationship, they're COWORKERS that follow a company's strict rules. Try suspending your disbelief a bit less and get back to reality.

Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 16:28:02 No.54667080

>>54666785
>You can't even name a single idol off the top of your head
I don't need to. Hololive became popular by following some basic principals of idol culture. That's why it has so much appeal. Male collabs are antithetical to Hololive, what it stands for, and why it's so good.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 16:28:33 No.54667109 >>54666976 Wrong fanbase nijisister >>54660293

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 16:29:29 No.54667150 >>54666510 >>54666554 >>54666608 >>54666626 Thank you I think I get the gist now

Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 16:29:31 No.54667152

>>54666764
>Telling someone to be polite and respectful towards you is pretty entitled desu.
No? it's a moral obligation
She's just saying "don't be an ass" and you're throwing a tantrum that she doesn't want you being an ass
How is she in the wrong here?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 16:29:40 No.54667166 >>54666212 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KylRjccy11A

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 16:29:55 No.54667184 >>54665806 When I watch cute girls, I watch cute girls. When I watch a male streamer it's a non-vtuber that is good at the game I'm interested in, or boomers like Vinny or Kripp. I'm simply not mixing those things.

Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 16:30:11 No.54667198

>>54666976
During the hours where they are working and being paid to play a character, they are not "people". They are assets solely meant to do their job and rake in money by entertaining us, the viewer.

If these stupid whores can't keep their cock guzzling mouths from mentioning my Stars while on the clock, then they deserve rope. The Stars are NOT meant for low tier women who can not EVEN DO THEIR JOB PROPERLY.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 16:31:27 No.54667268 >>54620425 Nijitroons detected. Kys please you'll never watch her anyway

Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 16:31:38 No.54667279
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>>54667000
>Try suspending your disbelief a bit less and get back to reality.
no
Hololive has a unique gimmick that leans into CGDCT/Idol culture. I don't want diversity. I don't want change. I want escapism and to pretend there is still purity/fun in the world

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 16:31:47 No.54667289 >>54667152 >it's a moral obligation Holy kek, no, people don't have a moral obligation to be polite and respectful to you. You're a total narcissist.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 16:32:05 No.54667309 >>54620425 >filters the target audience good job

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 16:32:28 No.54667322 >>54666865 which were proven fake

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 16:33:15 No.54667362 https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGSOfFtVCTBfmGxHK5OD8ag This lazy pos, more lazy tham Gura and people still dont say shit about him

Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 16:33:18 No.54667366

>>54666976
Ah yes, next you are gonna join the nhentai comment section to preach Jesus. Remember to pat yourself in the back for the posturing.

You are free to go to Vshojo or wherever Nyanners is streaming with her bf if that's your desired content. But hey, you won't get to do any posturing there.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 16:33:46 No.54667399 >>54622332 they're normalfags, they genuinely can't understand that some people take it really seriously. they think it's just a meme or a content you watch without becoming obsessed with it

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 16:34:07 No.54667426 >>54667322 Oh no is the "get me pregnant" thing not real? :(

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 16:35:50 No.54667522 >>54667000 >Try suspending your disbelief a bit less and get back to reality Get the fuck out of here nigger

Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 16:36:32 No.54667574

>>54667198
>If these stupid whores can't keep their cock guzzling mouths from mentioning my Stars while on the clock, then they deserve rope. The Stars are NOT meant for low tier women who can not EVEN DO THEIR JOB PROPERLY.
You are mentally fucking ill and an entitled brat who thinks Holoive talents shouldn't be allowed to think and act for themselves
>"oh boo hoo she wants stream with her friends and not people she just met"
So what? so fucking what? Are you threatened by the thought of a talent having friends outside hololive itself? For all we know she just met the other girls so no shit she likely had friends outside hololive beforehand

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 16:36:56 No.54667591 i hope shiori takes a vacation to brazil and never makes it back

Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 16:38:33 No.54667680

>>54667322
Either it was another woman pretending to be her PL and copying her voice or it was her. It's not like it was actually fake or completely pulled out of nothing.

Someone that claimed to be her posted and recorded that stuff over a period of time years ago.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 16:39:54 No.54667754 >>54667000 >All those collabs are part of a BUSSINESS relationship Jesus Christ, you don't even watch the content you're trying to defend.

Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 16:40:56 No.54667816

>>54667574
Mentally ill cuckold trying to mansplain why someone should be okay with being cuckolded just because they're okay with it.

The Stars are leagues above the bae, mori, shiori, etcs of the vtuber world. It isn't like these retards are someone talented like Kanata who would actually be worthy of interacting with the Stars.

Keep your shitty talentless whores away from MY HOMOS

Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 16:42:34 No.54667909

>>54667574
>Holoive talents shouldn't be allowed to think and act for themselves
Cover doesn't allow Hololive talent to think and act for themselves. They're employees who have to follow rules. Now are you gonna start screeching about how Cover is oppressing them? Please do kek

Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 16:43:01 No.54667932

>>54667279
The girls hanging out with guys that are their friends or even only coworkers every once in a while are NOT gonna ruin that fun for you, I goddamn promise you. Even less if you just... don't watch those streams kek. You're the one at fault if you preemptively assume that those streams are gonna be filled with flirting and sex jokes or whatever. (PS: They know their audience, so that's not gonna happen, at least not in Hololive) You're like a manbaby crying at devs adding an easy mode to games you're never gonna play them in.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 16:43:32 No.54667957 bottom of the barrel pick

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 16:45:50 No.54668089 >>54667816 I'm a >>54667909 >Cover doesn't allow Hololive talent to think and act for themselves. They're employees who have to follow rules. So Shiori is just following the rules, then. Which involves asking you to be respectful.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 16:46:43 No.54668129 >>54667166 >Singing love songs with >In reality shes barely even singing and holding back laughter and it's not even together You said songs as in multiple, so Where's the other ones anon?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 16:47:03 No.54668148 >>54668089 *I'm aromatic fucking thing sucks

Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 16:48:00 No.54668210

>>54667754
Dude, Kronii laughing a bit more than usual doesn't mean she's shagging Vesper behind the curtains. Nor does it mean that Ame's addicted to Altare's cock because she sang a popular song in a (pre-recorded from another stream) karaoke duo.
I precisely don't even watch most of the homo collabs because some of them I'm not interested in (or I'm just not interested in some of the boys' streams) but jesas, just let that shit be instead of throwing a tantrum everytime they fucking exist

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 16:48:58 No.54668265 >>54667932 It's even funnier knowing that the only time something remotely sexual was even joked about was by fucking matsuri

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 16:49:28 No.54668299 >>54667909 >Cover doesn't allow Hololive talent to think and act for themselves. They're employees who have to follow rules. So Shiori is just following the rules, then. Which involves asking you to be respectful.

Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 16:50:02 No.54668334

>>54668210
>Dude, Kronii laughing a bit more than usual doesn't mean she's shagging Vesper behind the curtains. Nor does it mean that Ame's addicted to Altare's cock because she sang a popular song in a (pre-recorded from another stream) karaoke duo.
For me the problem isn't so much the content itself, but the fact that they know their fans hate it and do it anyway.

Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 16:50:05 No.54668340

>>54667932
Of Shiori collabs with males I will anti her until the day she dies and never let her forget how hard she fucked up her own career.

>>54668089
>So Shiori is just following the rules, then. Which involves asking you to be respectful.
Shiori has to follow Cover's rules. I don't. She also has to follow the fans' rules to a large extent because they're the ones paying her.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 16:52:38 No.54668492 >>54668340 Then take it up with cover, not her She's just doing her job If you have an issue with these rules, take it up with cover or a-chan instead of harassing the girls

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 16:54:16 No.54668584 >>54642702 >WHY WHY WHY >I'M SO CONFOOSED BROS

Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 16:54:17 No.54668589

im just glad that cover is actively fighting against all these chuds and conservative fucks in the fanbase. we dont need people who dont even want cross gender collabs in this fanbase. UNICORNS DNI!

you WILL be a cuckold. you WILL like the stars. you WILL take the girldick in your mouth. you WILL have your oshi flirt with men. accept our gift of modernity or have fun with your sanctions (bans), bigots.

Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 16:55:01 No.54668631

>>54667080
>Male collabs are antithetical to Hololive, what it stands for, and why it's so good.
Almost half of hololive JP doesn't even go along with that part of idol culture. Do you think anyone in holoEN likes having to stay on the good side of unicorns?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 16:55:30 No.54668654 Oh, she's CRAZY CRAZY, not crazy CRAZY. Fuck.

Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 16:57:51 No.54668788

>>54668334
>the fact that they know their fans hate it and do it anyway.
Yup. And now they all do underwear streams and GFE bait hard as fuck. They got a hard dose of reality.

They're entertainers. Not a cult.
Despite the fact they can act like they can get away with anything, that's only up until they decide to fuck up.

Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 16:58:03 No.54668798
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>>54667932
>You're like a manbaby crying at devs adding an easy mode to games you're never gonna play them in.
What point are you trying to make here? I like the game and it's standard difficulty. I continue to play this game until one day they add an easy difficulty. I won't play easy difficulty because I like the standard that was put out and continue to play the difficulty I enjoy. However now the game draws new audience because the easy difficulty. It is reasonable to believe that the game will now continue to cater to this new audience who can't handle the standard difficulty the game was built upon. Future updates and expansions in this franchise are now at risk of appealing to the new broader audience instead of the niche it originally covered getting instead a now more generic watered down product.
So yes, it is possible it WILL ruin it for me. I will NOT watch those streams and I WILL continue to voice my concern and displeasure at it.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 16:58:52 No.54668847 >>54668589 Mori is about to quit. You lost.

Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 16:59:01 No.54668862

>>54668334
>Knew their fans would hate it
Ames been interacting with homos since debut, you'd have to be mentally ill to complain about males when she's been doing it from the start.
Kronii said what she'd do and did it, feeding in to the vocal minority shit flingers is retarded

Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 16:59:14 No.54668876

>>54668492
>She's just doing her job
Shiori's job is to make money. If she collabs with males then she's throwing money away which makes her a really shitty employee. Cover foolishly doesn't have a policy completely banning male collabs, yet, so we the fans have to step in and pressure the girls not to do male collabs and punish those who do.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 16:59:53 No.54668916 >>54668798 Based Chumbud.

Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 17:00:46 No.54668964
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>>54641446
I suspect she has an ego about her, due to being much longer in experience doing this than most other EN chuubas out there (dunno if her or ironmouse were first but Moe was among the first). 5 years doing this and she still walked into a gaffe entirely of her own making in debut. this isn't hard to learn, some girls have gotten the hang of the game 10x quicker than her. does that mean it'll take 10x as long for her to realize the basic dos/donts of being a holo?

literally her first stream, is the history of vtubers. starting what, with herself basically? I can see why she'd have that kind of an "I know better than you all because I supercede you all" kind of thing, but being first in town doesn't make your opinions correct or the best. especially when most of her subs came from ASMR or being plugged as part of someone else's work (eilene). it doesn't make random 2view twitch indies automatically better just because she happens to know them - we DO NOT CARE. Hololive viewers do not care about the randos you've encountered along the way of getting there any more than someone would care about the childhood friend of someone who got into the NBA (unless maybe it was lebron or something and Moe is no lebron). Moe maybe doesn't seem prepared to contemplate that her long history doesn't mean much in Holo in the grand scheme of things and people are gonna judge her for what they see in front of their faces today, not what she was in the many yesterdays.

Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 17:00:50 No.54668969

>>54667932
>PS: They know their audience, so that's not gonna happen, at least not in Hololive

You defeat your own point. The whole reason they know their audience, as opposed to Nyanners' audience, is because hololive audience puts up this kind of pressure.

Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 17:00:54 No.54668973

>>54668876
They CAN'T have a rule. Western investors won't allow THAT. But they CAN create scapegoats and sacrifices, then move resources to the successful talents. I can't say for sure yet, but it feels like Shiori might end up as one of them. She put herself on the altar.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 17:01:23 No.54669004 >>54668788 >now they all do underwear streams and GFE bait hard as fuck Literally what the hell is your delusional ass talking about

Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 17:01:31 No.54669015

>>54668334
I'd like to think that, from the corporate side, the homos being Yagoo's project and, well, existing, means that they had to test the waters and have them interact and collab with the girls at least at one point in their lives. And if those streams get good reception/views then those groups repeat them. Sometimes you gotta take bold steps before you course correct into the optimal middle ground.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 17:01:57 No.54669044 >>54669004 >doesn't watch streams OH NO NO NO NO NO SISTERS HAVE WE BEEN CAUGHT WITH OUR PANTS DOWN?!

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 17:02:56 No.54669105 >>54669044 >No argument or proof >Acts like a retard and deflects Everytime

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 17:02:57 No.54669107 >>54617262 CAN YOU UNICORN RETARDS PLEASE STAY THE FUCK AWAY FROM MY NEW OSHI?

Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 17:02:57 No.54669108

Shiori isn't going to collab with men. Cover makes them all make a generic collab statement in their debut.

Shiori has an extremely controlling BF irl and collabing with males would get her beat half to death. She literally can not afford to fuck up his income now that she has a chance at getting an actual viewerbase with disposable money. Poor girl is probably already in trouble for her poor wording

Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 17:03:11 No.54669122

>>54669015
To be fair, Holostars COULD have succeeded pretty fucking hard, but they treated them like a HOLOLIVE branch.
You do NOT treat men and women entertainers the same. It won't work. It's also the same reason you don't mix them.
Men have to CREATE. Women have to BE. That's where they fucked up.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 17:03:30 No.54669142 >>54669108 Excellent bait. Now go back.

Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 17:03:59 No.54669170

>>54668631
>Almost half of hololive JP doesn't even go along with that part of idol culture.
Kek. The vast majority of Holo JP talents go along with the "no males" part of idol culture, Liarchama.
>Do you think anyone in holoEN likes having to stay on the good side of unicorns?
Yes. Unicorns shower them with money and staying on their good side is as easy as literally just not doing male collabs and not talking about sex you've had IRL. They're the easiest type of fans in the world to make happy and keep happy.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 17:04:18 No.54669196 >>54669108 can you link timestamp to Bijou's generic collab statement? Thanks

Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 17:04:20 No.54669198

>>54669105
>Mori non-stop streams in her underwear
>just talked about how her original model had a fully modelled vagina (why even bring it up)
>Kronii just did a slut video
>Both doing ASMR and GFE super hard
Yeah. Totally. It's me. lmao
You don't watch. You don't pay.
That's why you're not even aware.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 17:06:31 No.54669339 >>54668862 >Ames been interacting with homos since debut That isn't even remotely true, mister twitter tranny

Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 17:06:53 No.54669364

>>54669122
i almost exclusively watch Holostars and most of the viewership of the Stars don't seem to want them to collab with the girls either. i dont know where all the people begging for collabs are actually coming from. we want the boys to be more popular but that doesnt mean we want it to be through forced collabs

Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 17:09:16 No.54669513
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>>54669364
It's the exact same story every single time.
>outside group with a certain type of politics notices something getting popular
>hates the group that is in to that hobby
>wants "changes" to be "fair" for "all" or they "won't watch"
>loud, so they're mistake for a majority, or threatening, so it could lead to a loss
>changes made, everyone mad
>original fans bail
>new "fans" leave because their goal wasn't to watch anyway
Tale as old as time.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 17:09:36 No.54669525 >>54668973 >They CAN'T have a rule They can though. >Western investors Anon what the fuck do Western investors have to do with anything?

Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 17:10:32 No.54669594

>>54668862
She would rarely mention them once in a blue moon or tweet about a 3d debut. Comparing this to what came after tempus is disingenuous.
Kronii was no where near that decisive and you fucking know it. She did that member stream where she made a compromise with unicorns, and then immediately backed out of it before going on break and getting management to rile up a twitter mob against her fanbase.

Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 17:11:03 No.54669623

>>54669198
>Mori
Literally not even mentioned and what you mentioned isn't even relevant. As well as the fact that Mori has also been interacting with males since debut so again nobody has a reason to be upset since she stated she was as the start
>Kronii did a slut video
As well as fauna but and others but I guess you'll ignore that
>ASMR
Nothing about that is relationship based, it's for autist who like sound.
>Gfe
Still no proof provided and no, delusions don't count.

Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 17:11:41 No.54669665

>>54668973
>But they CAN create scapegoats and sacrifices
But what for? Prep a potential talent just to throw them away because reasons? Why would the talent agree to play that role? They maybe can't make a rule, but can just hint the girls that it's a bad idea. If someone goes that route anyway... then we are back to square one where the girl is just stupid to do so. It's not a normie mainstream industry that plays politics, and male collabs aren't even related to any usual thing in that category. Literally nothing makes sense in your theory.

Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 17:11:51 No.54669674

>>54668876
>so we the fans have to step in and pressure the girls not to do male collabs and punish those who do.
So you are admitting that you want to harass the girls who are doing basically except following rules and doing nothing that could breach their contract
Explain to me how this is morally okay to do

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 17:12:18 No.54669694 >>54669623 Pretending it doesn't exist doesn't mean you win, tranny. >it doesn't exist >okay it exists but it doesn't count lmao

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 17:13:19 No.54669762 >>54669665 What for? To placate the people they're truly targeting. People who pay up.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 17:14:19 No.54669826 >>54668862 >anti-males are the "vocal minority" Bruh, they said, "No," once. When they didn't get what they wanted, they bailed without a Dear John letter. You're straight wrong.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 17:14:20 No.54669827 >>54669694 >Still no proof K

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 17:14:42 No.54669845 >>54622765 Post the part about respecting the audience.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 17:14:48 No.54669850 >>54669108 >>54669196 this + moe collabed with males in the past so acting like it'd be a daring first for her is also factually incorrect

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 17:15:21 No.54669879 >>54669674 >"We won't watch you if you create content we don't like." >THAT'S HARASSMENT! fuck off

Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 17:15:44 No.54669908

>>54669198
Mori's stream today had her in bikini, openly asking for people to sub, with sub counter on screen. She is "rethinking her future in Hololive" and don't want to beat about the bush anymore, hence asking people to sub instead of acting like it doesn't matter to her. She is afraid.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 17:16:03 No.54669925 >>54669826 Honestly have no clue what you're trying to say, but they quite literally are a minority. They get drowned out literally everywhere but here.

Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 17:16:04 No.54669926

I feel bad for the anons who are genuinely defending her with hopes of making her their oshi.

She made it clear in her debut that her mouth and cunt are reserved for male coworkers, she will never have a shred of respect for her fans and the absolute best you can hope for is that she accidentally uploads a video of her pleasuring Magni (he is a chad and you are not)

Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 17:16:22 No.54669944

>>54668798
You are unironically proving my point by projecting in such a defeatist way. Most of the times it's a very small minority if an easy mode of a standard difficulty game will "win over" more people to play it. And if the main selling point of the game, the reason everyone talks about it, and the thing that's been always there since the beginning *is* its really hard difficulty... then that shit's not gonna change anytime soon! Especially not their development philosophy for future updates. It's, at best, gonna make them work a bit more to fine tune the "easy mode" version of those updates.
It's not gonna fucking ruin anything for you. Unless you prove to me that there's been genuine flirting and sex jokes in collabs, or that somehow their existence has influenced any way Hololive presents itself (aside from fucking listing them on their site as part of their talents, let's be fucking for real) the homos are harmless.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 17:16:51 No.54669979 >>54669623 >Mori has also been interacting with males since debut No she hasn't. Why can't homobeggers stop lying?

Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 17:17:19 No.54670003

>>54669827
>no proof
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwCv9xVY0wE

>no proof
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQF6Jm3u70U
Mori outright states the VTuber boom has cooled off in the west, where you liberal fucks are.

>>54669908
Yeah, her roommate has a job-begging video up after 8 months, too. She's gone.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 17:17:34 No.54670026 File: 70 KB, 720x360, hmmmmmm.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>54669879 >"step in and pressure the girls not to do male collabs and punish those who do." Hmmmm

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 17:18:36 No.54670076 >>54670026 >YOU MUST GIVE THEM YOUR MONEY OR IT'S INTIMIDATION Yup, it's a faggot. Better idea--why don't you prove, "Get woke, go broke," wrong and (You) pay up?

Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 17:19:08 No.54670119

I am wondering though. Do anons really hate prudes?

Sometimes it seems like you do want chuubas to be total sluts. You just want them to be their fan's slut. Is that correct or did I misunderstand? Please explain what you actually want out of chuubas.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 17:19:21 No.54670132 >>54666142 They do interviews and all kind of shows with MEN but the difference is their Manager handles the connection and they aren't just slipping in some DMs or have their private Discord server.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 17:19:41 No.54670149 >>54670003 Literally how the fuck is any of that gfe. And why are you constantly mentioning Mori when the discussion was about kronii and ame

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 17:19:55 No.54670167 >>54670119 It's not a matter if they're a slut or a prude. It's a matter if they try to force us to watch content we do not want to fucking see. It's really that simple.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 17:20:28 No.54670200 >>54670076 >so we the fans have to step in and pressure the girls not to do male collabs and punish those who do. no no really explain what this sentence means or implies "punishing" how?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 17:20:56 No.54670229 >>54670149 >streaming her underwear model several times in a row isn't GFE baiting >ww-w-w-why show examples of failures in this regard? limit your response so I can win! lmao now you're desperate

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 17:21:03 No.54670234 >>54670076 >Money Nobody's asking anything of you then to not be a cunt

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 17:21:12 No.54670245 >>54669674 >muh morals I like Hololive a lot and I'll fight to protect it from all of its enemies. Especially the enemies within. Because the enemies within are the ones who can damage it the most.

Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 17:21:25 No.54670258

>>54669879
this. fans are giving an extremely loud telegraphed warning signal that a bunch will bail if the girl insists on putting in content those viewers didn't want. the way girls react blaming the fans has literally always, always been wrong, they're just fucking inhaling zeppelins worth of copium collectively pretending it's the fans' fault for having tastes/preferences.

you do not attack a customer for saying he doesn't want pineapple on pizza and he just will not buy your pizzas if you start to insist on putting pineapple on them sometimes no matter what he ordered and he can leave if he doesn't like it. he will leave and it wasn't his fault. you do not blame the customer for not buying an electric car with a 20 mile range when his work commute is 30 miles. you build a better electric car. the irony of the whole "improve yourself" gambit of ame's is actually, she needs to improve her own understanding of the entertainer/fan dynamic and is mistaken that because -some- of them are brainless simps who will obey her commands like helpless puppets, all the fans are and they just need to be reminded to sit down and shut up. actually many if not most of the fans do still have free will and can't be commanded to like things they don't like - they're not captive to her.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 17:21:59 No.54670302 >>54670200 >greentext the word "punish" >pretend someone else said it Yup, it's a faggot. >>54670234 >no YOU pay Yeah, that's what I thought. Another faggot, it seems. Pay up or enjoy the backlash. Up to you.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 17:22:55 No.54670359 >>54670149 Because Mori is part of the same clique within Holo, and we can observe them slowly changing the tune. She is a good example.

Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 17:23:07 No.54670369

>>54670026
Aggressive pressure indicates inclining pressure rather than declining pressure. Withholding something isn't harassment and I'm not even the people you're arguing with, just stating the fact. It could be passive aggressive but only in the context that there is an established relationship and expectation. But if she's forcing such a parasocial relationship then it's abusive on her part. It's only harassment if you repeatedly tell her to change or you won't watch.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 17:23:17 No.54670379 >>54670258 Some of the girls have straight up confused their job as an entertainer with cult leader. Like they believed they were irreplaceable. Reality knocked.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 17:24:56 No.54670478 >>54670167 But you want to watch the slutty panty flashing content with sex jokes and talking about your model having a vagina and womb tattoo, and innuendo about sucking fans off. Right?

Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 17:24:59 No.54670482

>>54670229
>Using your swim suit model during the literally swimsuit arc is now considered gfe
>So I can win
How much brain damage do you have, it's a discussion not a fucking boxing match. You're so obsessed with the idea of winning when I'm just trying to have a conversation even with your constant deflections. Enjoy your last (you)

Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 17:25:24 No.54670506

>>54669908
>openly asking for people to sub, with sub counter on screen
>She is "rethinking her future in Hololive"
Oh fuck it's that bad? Mori did this to herself but I still feel bad for her because she's a good and sweet person somewhere beneath all her stupidity, contrarianism, and addiction. This is what male collabs and FIGHTING LE EBIL IDOL CULTURE does to a motherfucker.

Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 17:25:26 No.54670509

>>54669944
>Most of the times it's a very small minority if an easy mode of a standard difficulty game will "win over" more people to play it. And if the main selling point of the game, the reason everyone talks about it, and the thing that's been always there since the beginning *is* its really hard difficulty... then that shit's not gonna change anytime soon!
so then why make an easy difficulty at all?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 17:26:03 No.54670544 >>54670482 >pretending I said swim suit Try again, fag.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 17:26:24 No.54670560 >>54670509 Everyone then gets what they want anon, literally nothing changes

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 17:27:20 No.54670619 >>54670506 Yeah, I watched only like first 20 minutes and she was very open about that, it should be over now so go watch the vod.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 17:28:18 No.54670685 >there are people pretending right now Mori isn't constantly streaming in her underwear lmao wut Was Vesper and Magni not in indefinite hiatus too, or something? Is this the Bernstein's timeline?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 17:29:29 No.54670749 >>54670478 If that's what the fans want and pay up for, I support it. No one supported the collabs except non-watching non-paying invaders.

Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 17:31:46 No.54670913

please keep the whore holos away from my homos. its always the shitty low tier ones lusting after them.

i dont want girls interacting with my homos and bringing their shitty fanbases over screaming MORE COLLABS OMG! HAHA LOOK AT OUR FUNNY MEMES! KRONII MINDBREAKS VESPER HAHAHA LETS ALL SPAM HIS CHAT WITH SHITTY KRONII MEMES!

KEEP HOLOWHORES AWAY FROM MY HOMOS!!!!!!!!

Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 17:32:35 No.54670954

>>54670749
But you realize you're playing with fire, right? You get an irl total slut and not a prude to play that role but now you're surprised they act like a slut. They aren't anime characters in real life, you are getting certain specific types to act like that as chuubas. If you play with fire then you'll get burned.

Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 17:33:33 No.54671010

>>54670954
>they aren't anime characters in real
I do not give a fuck. I DO NOT KNOW THEM IN REAL LIFE EITHER.
So why would I care about them personally? Exactly.
>something something fire something
If you truly wanted homocollabs, you would have ponied up the dough. But you didn't. Back to TwiXter with you, refugee.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 17:34:11 No.54671052 >>54655585 /vt/ genuinely believes that the point of vtubing is 'pretend to be in a relationship with an anime girl'. The idea that people could watch it for entertainment just never enters their heads.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 30, 2023 17:35:11 No.54671120 >>54671010 Ironic since Mori makes more than every EN

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