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54390134 No.54390134 [Reply] [Original]

Selen is next.

>> No.54390232

BLACK COMPANY

>> No.54390343

So you think Selen would move to phase as well? I could see it working

>> No.54390542

>>54390134
Apex streams in niji decrease by 98%

>> No.54390575

>>54390343
Selen would be a great fit for Phase

>> No.54390608

en3???

>> No.54390675

>>54390134
one thing i love about that black company thread is i can make up anything as long as it sounds plausible enough and faggots will eat it up

>> No.54390699

>>54390608
EN3 debuts in two days anon

>> No.54390705

>>54390575
ell, well, well. How the turntables...

https://twitter.com/n333_aa/status/1546954635407147008

>> No.54390730

>>54390134
Thank you insider kun

>> No.54390759

>>54390343
>as well?
Huh, who more did?

>> No.54390803

>>54390699
wait what? ive been gone for a bit

>> No.54390847

>>54390759
One of the managers, according to the insider

>> No.54390865

>>54390134
It's over

>> No.54390878

>>54390759
anon your reading comprehension reps..

>> No.54390882

>>54390705
God her voice is so fucking annoying

>> No.54390914

>>54390759
Nina
Also Selen's joining VSPO's attempt at a global branch and the 80% cut has to be bullshit considering Mysta bought both a house for his mom and land and he hardly makes enough in SCs for that at an 80% cut

>> No.54390926

>>54390134
BLACK COMPANY

I WON'T DENY

YEAH, BLACK COMPANY

TILL THE DAY I DIE

>> No.54390932
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>>54390803

>> No.54390952

>>54390134
85/15 is insane. Happy for Selen though. She deserves to work for a serious company that will properly support her.

>> No.54390956

>>54390803
Good morning. We have lovely new girls for you.

>> No.54390976

>>54390914
you know how much is 20% of a million dollars right?

>> No.54391107

>>54390134
Sounds fake. Too many details.

>> No.54391160

hey what happened with the design contest where she had to convince niji to let her pay out reward money?
im looking at her vods and it seems like nothing happened
i could see her trying to figure out a new model from a loser

>> No.54391162

>>54390134
I said it in that thread too but this is BS. We KNOW they did not in fact blow up their staff because Selen just got her debut manager back

>> No.54391220

>>54390847
>>54390878
I thought he meant other actual vtubers, not manager

>>54390914
thank you for the heads-up anon

>> No.54391245

>>54390976
you clearly don't know by how much real estate go these days

>> No.54391249

>>54390976
He didn't make a million dollars, plus youtube already takes a large portion of superchats, like 35%

>> No.54391267

>>54390914
>Nina
lmao
nina is vshojo bound

>> No.54391319

>>54391220
Nina's more likely a Vshojo candidate than Phase though. I can see Sayu as a phase invader in the future but nothing else

>> No.54391369

>>54390343
Non-competition clause would bar her from joining to any company and I don't think Sakana is brazen enough to flip a bird at Anycolor

>> No.54391460

>>54390882
Selen or Pippa? Both are equally possible.

>> No.54391475

>>54391369
What non-competition clause? So far there is no evidence that such a thing even exists. Plus does liberal canada even recognize non-compete clauses from japan? Especially if she goes for Vshojo or Idol which are not JP companies.

>> No.54391534

>>54391475
nigger, non-competition clauses are SOP in any job contract

>> No.54391558

>>54390976
A house and lot is actually expensive outside of SEA anon

>> No.54391599

>>54391369
Such clauses always have time limit

>> No.54391607

>>54390705
My post still stands, that's some shit a Phase member would say about another corp.
She just needs buck broken. Get her alone in a room with Fishman, Pippa, and Tenma and instill Pippatriotism through corporal means if necessary.

>> No.54391615

>>54390134
Ah yes, the same "insider" that said the next person to graduate after Nina would be Shu?

>> No.54391632

>>54391319
Nina is Nerissa in HoloAdvent

>> No.54391729

>>54391599
yeah but it's usually 2 fiscal Quarters long at the minimum

>> No.54391832

>>54391729
VOMS must not have that clause then.

>> No.54391857

>>54390134
I find it amazing that Nijisanji keep getting worse and worse.
How low will it get?

>> No.54391868

>>54390926
>none of the Nijis will perform Bad (Black) Company before they graduate
Why live?

>> No.54391925

Phase would be a step down for Selen, even if Niji is falling apart at the seams. And she's not Hololive material, which would also be the only upward move available. If she did quit and wanted to get into another corpo, vshojo is the only lateral choice. Which would then just be streaming apex 5 days a week anyway.

>> No.54392057

>>54391857
>2025
>NijisanjiEN is literally a slave mine forcing chuubas to turn big rocks into little rocks 18 hours a day
>Vox committed suicide live on stream after his numbers reached 3view territory for the first time
>all of the old waves have quit
>except one
>Pomu is still a proud member and says she wants to help Nijisanji get bigger in the west

>> No.54392117

>>54391534
only for a certain amount of time, they can't bar you for 5 years, but she can go indie for like 6-10 months and then join phase in a year.

>> No.54392219

>>54391925
she doesn't have a popular well known rm to do that with.

>> No.54392260

>>54391832
VOMS is VOMS, not some big corpo, And Gyari happily nuked evertything Pikamee related 5 minutes after her graduation stream ended.

>> No.54392264

>Niji is falling apart at the seams
What the fuck did they mean by this

>> No.54392277

>>54391857
https://youtu.be/aOdo9RcSIdw

>> No.54392292

>>54391267
Heh, she would probably fit well there

>> No.54392300

>>54392057
>>Pomu is still a proud member and says she wants to help Nijisanji get bigger in the west

So Pomu will always be the one with Stockolm Syndrome? That's sad guys...

>> No.54392348

>>54391925
It's a step down but if she gets most of her paypigs to follow her and if she's more mentally healthy due to the move it could be worth it. She seems stretched so thin in NijiEN it's insane.

>> No.54392375

This thread is proof that you can post literally anything to the catalog and somehow south east Asia will believe it

>> No.54392409

>>54391632
Nerissa is billed as a singer and Nina can't sing
Also she'd probably be mutual follows with Pomu and Rosemi at this point

>> No.54392431

>>54392057
Pomu should audition for EN4 already.

>> No.54392466

>>54390914
buy a house and lot in the philippines 3rd world country

>> No.54392521

>>54392431
Please gods no. EN4 must not be NijiCN retirement home.

>> No.54392524

>>54390134
>shitposting didn't work well in the niji thread, so this fag has to screencap and bring it to the catalog to gain attention

>> No.54392630

>>54392431
>Luca's onahole
>EN4
Fuck no

>> No.54392663

>>54392431
She chose her bed and can rot in it.

>> No.54392678

>>54390134
Insider here. Also forgot to mention that NijiEN is shutting down in two weeks.

>> No.54392704

>>54392409
Mori also can't sing and have a contract with Universal Music Japan.

>> No.54392708

>>54392375
Normally I would have passed it off as schizo ramblings, but during her Viewfinder stream she made a very weird comment that still sticks out in my mind
>I'll miss playing with Vox
She played it off shortly after but it gave off a very weird vibe

>> No.54392728

>>54392524
>i-i-i-i-it's just shitposting!!!
you already did this with the new wave drama leaks and the graduation leaks

>> No.54392774

I love how there's 58 replies and no one is contesting the fact that the "leaker" said the cuts is 80/20 when its known for years that SC cut is 30/35/35 prior to taxes, Voice packs are 50% and so on. With that alone you can see its bullshit, but faggots will believe in anything and anyone if they say they are a leaker.
selen and whoever else might even graaduate but it wont be because of this post in particular.

>> No.54392868

>>54392774
Because everyone knows that shit

>> No.54392883

>>54390705
>clipwatchers still dont get the actual context

>> No.54392903

>>54392774
You failed to account for video views and memberships. Holo has a slightly higher cut than niji as well btw.

>> No.54392958

>>54392868
do they? ive seen a lot of fags out there who think every cut in nijisanji is 2% and not just merch, even though rosemi, pomu and most of EN were able to quit their job to live as streamer.

>> No.54392959

>>54392774
I didn't believe OP for a second personally, but it's fun to speculate what could possibly happen. She has made it known she's not a fan of management decisions, and phaseniggers chomping at the bit to poach her is an angle I didn't know existed.

>> No.54393027

>>54392903
well i was including adsense and membership in superchat but yes, those do count, although im not sure what are the cuts or if they are similar to SC.

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>>54392774
I'm here to stir shit.

>> No.54393088

>>54392959
sure, im only saying that because if selen graduate in the future, some will say this was right, when the signals for her to graduate are in there regardless, so you can make up anything.

>> No.54393095

>>54392708
I think she more meant she'll miss playing overwatch with vox
She has two different outfits planned for the upcoming year, and has a bunch of projects she's been reaching out to people for. She's also mentioned how apex is giving her new opportunities since she's in nijisanji and have been reaching out to her to get her to do stuff which was one of her goals from the very beginning.
On top of that her contract was already renewed around the same time Pomu's was and she has a birthday in October.

I could see her graduating in 2024 but September of this year would be idiotic since she'd have a birthday stream in October where she'd get a ton of money.

>> No.54393110

>>54392958
You need to learn that almost everything that you see people talking /here/ is false. People are here only to make fun of each other.

>> No.54393197

>>54390705
Did Selen and Finana ever do another one on one collab after that?

>> No.54393236

>>54392774
Mysta wouldn't be resigning and going indie if those cuts were real

>> No.54393246

>>54390675
Anon, so many of the recent leaks have been true that you'd be foolish to just toss these rrats aside at this point.

>> No.54393260

>>54390575
Selen would 100% go Indie and sign with Mythic.

>> No.54393293

>>54390343
>Leaving a shitty company
>to go to a shitty company with one of the same shitty managers
You people are beyond retarded.

>> No.54393386

>>54393260
Literally who?.

>> No.54393397

>>54393110
i dont mean here anon, i mean on yt and twitter
>>54393236
you can resign for other reasons outside of money like dealing with mismanagement and other company related issues. Some can deal with it and what it comes to being corpo, even more a jp, others cant, like mysta

>> No.54393409

>>54390134
The rrat lost all its credibility when they invented the "80/20 is the reason nijisanji is afloat"
>is well known livers get 50% of YT, Streamlabs & Voice packs
>Anycolor's financial report shows merchandising is where most of the money is made in which we know now livers only get 1~3%

>> No.54393429

>>54392219
Anon that can be remedied instantly with a simple "Hi, I'm totally not that one girl from niji who just graduated wink wink" like what Pikamee did.

>> No.54393477

>>54391160
Did someone even win it? I haven't seen anything about a new outfit since the contest announcement.

>> No.54393516

>>54393236
considering some of his fans were going after everyone he collabed with and doxing him for months
yeah he would
He wasn't even one of the big earners
He'll probably get 3D as an indie before he ever would as Mysta too

>> No.54393543

>>54390134
Two months makes no sense and does not line up with their debut timings whatsoever.

>> No.54393557

>>54391615
nah, the shu stuff was just an attentionwhore that posted his own discord message

>> No.54393564

>>54390976
you can't buy 2 houses in the UK with only 200k you fucking retard

>> No.54393585

>>54393429
Sadly Vshojo would be a downgrade unlike PC or Holo.

>> No.54393592

thank god, fuck nijisanji and their black company bullshit, it's heavenly punishment for what the did to zaion

>> No.54393621

>>54393386
Selen is a vtuber who works for the agency known as Nijisanji.

>> No.54393661

>>54393585
Then why do holo talents leave to join vshojo?

>> No.54393727

>>54393592
>shoot yourself in the foot
>LOOK AT WHAT NIJI DID TO ME!!!

>> No.54393751

>>54393246
The person who leaked Nina leaving also leaked the second graduation in the same thread shortly after. Literally every leak since then is probably some fag attention whoring, and most of them have proven wrong. Everyone's just memory holing that it was also leaked that Shu was the Luxiem member graduating a couple of days after the fact

>> No.54393755

>>54393621
I asked about Mythic, is that another 2view company being shilled or what?.

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>>54390134
and nothing of value was lost.

>> No.54393823

>>54393755
Mythic find sponsorship opportunities for people signed with them.
They only get paid in a portion of the sponsorships. So it basically costs talent nothing to work with them and only brings in jobs.

>> No.54393853

>>54393661
Coco quit because she is retarded
Rusia is a menhara and kson groomed her
Look at how successful all the talents are at this point despite not having freedom that coco wanted

>> No.54393884

>>54393751
unless someone has all the archive receipts of the leaks
I am to believe the "Shu graduation" one was a falseflagger doing it right after the real "Nina graduation + someone else will graduate later" leak was posted

>> No.54393922

>>54393755
They're not a chuuba group but an actual streamer management group. They fished out silvervale and nyanners from vshojo.

>> No.54393937

>>54390134
Selen coming to tempiss to spam apex collabs with the boys

>> No.54393943

>>54393661
They fucked up and they grab what they can get, basically crumbs.

>> No.54393942

>>54393661
the only holos that left for vshojo are a menhera retard that got the boot and a girl that has... questionable IQ, do with this information what you will

>> No.54393946

>>54393853
How do you define success? Because they seem a lot more happy to me. Coco wouldnt have gotten to be in Yakuza unlike kson which is like a dream come true to her.

>> No.54393954

>>54393755
Mythic isn't a vtuber corpo. It's just a big name talent agency that's' signed a ton of vtubers. The path for a big English indie is 95% Mythic, 5% MSM. VShojo also remains a possibility, but even if her numbers were better she's less likely to end up there than Nina.

>> No.54393980

>>54393853
Nah coco had legitimate reasons to quit. She was treated incredibly poorly and isolated from everyone else because of the mention of a single country.

>> No.54393993

>>54393751
No one leaked Shu retard. It was anons jumping the gun because of his menhera posts and awful stream schedule since the concert cancellation

>> No.54394013

>>54393853
>>54393943
>niji leaves to join holo
>haha we took your talent she likes it more here!!!
>holo leaves to join vshojo
>t-they're just retarded!!!!!!!

>> No.54394057

>>54393993
People 100% did "leak" that it was Shu and people were spamming the post saying it all over the catalog.

>> No.54394106

>>54393993
This.
Shu was just assumed because shu hates his fans and literally doesnt even do streams for them that aren't collabs. Everyone hoped he was graduating but I'm pretty satisfied that the guy who couldn't stop getting one-guyed is graduating too

>> No.54394122

>>54394013
good ole' tribalism
couldn't possibly be that some places are just better fits for specific people with unique desires and situations

>> No.54394178

>>54394013
Anons seethe about vshojo because it's legitimately on its way to becoming the best corp for a vtuber to join
Over a 50% cut on all merch, no cuts from superchats/bits or members and the same benefits as hololive and nijisanji

>> No.54394183

>>54394013
we dont want nijis, why you nijifaggot falseflaggers keep saying they will join holo, real holochads dont even watch niji to begin with.

>> No.54394214
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54394214

>>54393755
>I asked about Mythic, is that another 2view company being shilled or what?
It's a talent management company owned by Asmongold that many Twitch 4 and 3views have signed with.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnAf0aU2l58
https://www.mythictalent.com/mythic-talent-vtuber-creators

>> No.54394217

>>54394013
If she goes to Holo:
>more CCV
>keep the variety content
>cool 3D events and concerts
If she goes to Vshojo:
>equal or less CCV than Niji
>1 game spam and shitty react content
>more react content
Yes, its a downgrade... just look at Coco vs Kson

>> No.54394227

>>54391832
because VOMS is a doujin group you fucking retard

>> No.54394253

>>54390343
Selen would benefit the least from going to Phase, she's bigger than every talent there combined in terms of subs. Granted it no longer reflects in terms of view counts due to APEX and Nijisanji being radioactive to associate yourself with, but she doesn't exactly need a company. All she would need to do is rebrand as an indie, and she'd probably be mostly fine since Anycolor wouldn't take the bulk of profits.

>> No.54394288

>>54394217
>restricted by game permissions, mod permissions, collabs outside of the group are nearly nonexistent
>variety content
Haha! Good one buddy

>> No.54394300

>Vshojocucks thinking that they are above Hololive

>> No.54394308

>>54394178
yet their founding members left, and rushia returning to youtube and mentioned not wanting to renew contract. cope and seethe.

>> No.54394366

>>54394217
Kson is not even a vtuber anymore. Just a fleshy hag.

>> No.54394406

>>54394288
>watching Youtube videos is peak quality content!
lmao
also, see >>54394366

>> No.54394450

>>54394308
There were 5 founding members and 2 of them left, not all of them. Mel, Mouse, and Zen are still intact.

>> No.54394520

>>54394178
For all people say about these things the reality is that Nijisanji is the only company one can realistically join in a timely manner. VShojo is nepotism central, Hololive rarely debuts talents.

>> No.54394546

>>54394288
You know Towa also is in Hololive? It's just that no one pushes for collabs.

>> No.54394563

Selen is better well off as an indie. Or even EN4 as like a EN Botan or something. Just make it clear frok the start that she doesnt want unicorns. Selen could be extremely popular. Plus she has Mumei and Ame who can she comfortable around with. If youre reading, Please consider this Selen and Yagoo

>> No.54394656

>>54394288
Towa, Botan, Matsuri, FBK and even Sora does this nowadays. Selen could be very successful if she play her cards right. The only question is if she wants it or not.

>> No.54394715

>>54390134
Nice. Hope the fat ass doesn't end up in HoloEN or something. Awful voice and awful laugh.

>> No.54394718

>>54394546
>>54394656
>All JP
Hmmm

>> No.54394755

>>54390134
We'll see in two months.
No matter if this is true or not, Niji has only to blame themselves for making this plausible.

>> No.54394818

>>54394718
Bae, Calli? They dont get much flak because they made it clear from the start that they dont want unicorns. Its so easy.

>> No.54394854

>>54394755
Considering all her incoming projects, 2 months is too short... the rrat about December is more believable

>> No.54394926

>>54394450
you are coping too hard, everyone know, there were no falsehood in what i said, nitpicking my words won't make it any less true.
And good luck thinking anyone can get in when they have shown again and again they only do nepo hire on has-been talents. this practice don't add any value to the Vshojo brand, rather just make them seem like a vtuber retirement home.

>> No.54394936

If Selen were to graduate I can see two scenarios
1. She pulls a Qu chan. Independent Twitch Vtuber signed with TSM as a content creator
2. She pulls a Bora Nun. Joins VSPO or Neo Porte, assuming they ever make an EN branch

>> No.54394947

>>54394926
Pikamee's views tripled when she joined VShojo

>> No.54394996

>>54394656
holochads dont want her, she can stay out.

>> No.54395158

>>54394755
I'd have to agree. As much as I'd like to dismiss it as 4chan bullshit, Niji has done nothing to try to ease the fears of any fans worried their favorite is next. They don't communicate with the english community at all..

>> No.54395190

>>54394947
i don't watch her, before or now i don't know if that is true or your headcannon. but you calling her pikamee instead of henya say alot that their popularity being based on pre-vshojo rather than cultivated at vshojo.

>> No.54395201

>>54394308
Alright so I'll give it to you straight, nyanners is a menhera mess. I'm not saying that because of her Loli stance or whatever she said years ago, I'm saying that as someone who has followed her since 2015.
Nyanners "reinvents" herself every couple of years and casts aside friends she's made in favor of doing so. I've talked in depth about it before in catalog threads but long story short, she's a wreck and will probably become a fleshtuber with her boyfriend in less than two years.
Veibae is also likely going to become a fleshtuber with her boyfriend and join mythic the second she can
Rushia is as menhera as they get and is a literal self admitted retard. She's had everything handed to her twice now and will likely piss it away because that's the type of woman she is.

That's not to say that vshojo is a flawless company by any means but their contract is better than any other big name out there.

>> No.54395388

>>54395201
Nyanners already does cam shit, or at least I've seen some clips.

>> No.54395424

>>54394818
Idk about bae but calli got two trash taste collabs that caused her to get so much hate for daring to hang out with
>m-m-m-males!!!!
That she was unable to publicly talk to them without anons seething and breaking containment over it. She also doesn't really collab outside of hololive unless you wanna go with the whole
>STARS ISN'T HOLOLIVE!!!
seethe. And even the stars collabs she rarely has a pov because she's been harassed for hanging out with the forbidden gender.

>> No.54395455

>>54390134
>talents
Someone knows if the previous leaker used "livers" or "talents" to refer to nijisanji members?

>> No.54395529

She's gonna join scarz or some shit, mark my words

>> No.54395577

>>54390134
I wonder what would happen to that one selenfag.

>> No.54395591

>>54395388
I've been suspecting part of the reason she left is because she's wanting to do more and more cam stuff while eventually possibly dropping vtubing altogether. VShojo doesn't mind if someone does flesh stuff, but they're still a vtuber company at heart and I'd assume the closest thing they do to having restrictions on someone's content is wanting them to remain a vtuber. But yeah she's done more IRL streams especially since leaving, and just yesterday streamed herself at a gun range.

>> No.54395613

>>54395388
Yeah I have too, she's done several reveals and live streams of her and her friends irl. She was never interested in being a vtuber but thought it'd be easy money and was proven to be right after two years of people donating their entire savings to her because she portrayed herself as a shy nerdy gremlin

>> No.54395699

>>54395591
>VShojo doesn't mind if someone does flesh stuff
>they're still a vtuber company at heart
holy fucking cope

>> No.54395768

>>54393794
You're going to sour grapes every lost talent until the end of time.

>> No.54395767

>>54392431
Lmao

>> No.54395824

>>54395699
Nta but I don't necessarily think vshojo did mind some flesh stuff but I do think they wanted people to be V primarily and nyanners has slowly been stepping away from the v part of vtuber for a while now.

>> No.54395893

>>54395824
But so has kson, and she's still there?

>> No.54395897

>>54395613
Same story as it ever was with Nyanners.

>> No.54395981

>>54395424
>calli got two trash taste collabs that caused her to get so much hate for daring to hang out with
>m-m-m-males!!!!
That wasn’t the reason.

>> No.54396198

>>54395893
She's still primarily a vtuber. All her stuff recently has just been hilariously colliding to make for like a couple months of mostly flesh streams. From the Yakuza contest, to her multiple con appearances, to opening birthday gifts, etc. Under "normal" circumstances she's like 70/30.

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>>54395768
leave Ponto out of this

>> No.54396376

>>54395893
Kson does flesh stuff almost exclusively on YouTube though, doesn't she?
I dunno man. Thats just my theory. At the end of the day nyanners is a menhera who changes personalities like they're her underwear. She equated working in one of the most lax corps in vtubing that worked to constantly shill her to slavery/prison.
Like I'll be honest, I don't watch vshojo. Got nothing against them. Just not my thing, but I do know that the only time I've ever heard anything about "restrictions" was when they were warned that playing Hogwarts legacy might cause drama.
They weren't told they couldn't play it or anything.
Nyanners had several streams taken down for copyrighted music and was banned at least twice for nsfw content being displayed. The girl landed a gig that utilized the one thing she was known for, her voice, and made it sound like it was misery because they occasionally asked her to stream and go to conventions

>> No.54396516
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>>54395158
I genuinely think Nijisanji just doesn't care, because EN is a spinoff branch through and through and it will always be an afterthought to them compared to JP. I'm sure some NijiEN fans will argue the same for HoloEN and though that may be true, HoloEN undeniably treated their talents better (at least they did this year) by giving them a live concert, proper Home 3D for the whole branch, plenty of outfits, unique merchandise that isn't based off of the same template, and it seems like this time there's a proper attempt to shake up management compared to the awful decisions made in 2022. Whether it was just coincidental or not, it resulted in most of branch going MIA and the crying for help kino that was Kiara's sock puppet streams.

Meanwhile NijiEN's management seem bizarrely fine having it rot. They cancelled a concert not only a week after announcing it to where 3/5 Luxiem members made fun of "COVID" being the reason it got sacked, to date Lazulight is still the only wave that has any form of Home 3D and Pomu's is delayed until 2024, Iluna still doesnt have new outfits after more than a year, and the excitement in the fanbase is clearly waning and yet nothing is being done to revitalize it.

>> No.54396621

>>54394854
>Considering all her incoming projects, 2 months is too short... the rrat about December is more believable
This. If EN doesn't make it to NijiFes this year, I would imagine she'll probably be done.

>> No.54396714

>>54395424
>reee male haters kept her down!
It was because they were trashy ecelebs of the lowest order deadbrap.
bae doesn't get hate because she neither conducts herself like a massive cunt all the time nor collabs with properly problematic people like mori insists on doing.

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she hates her branchmates lol. she is never in the colabs.

>> No.54396888

>>54391925
phase would actually be great for her because sakana doesn't give a shit and selen doesn't give a shit. sakana has multiple deadweight tubers on payroll, the dude is built for chicks who just want to stream in their own corner and fuck off from the rest of this idol shit. she wants corpo stability without corpo commitment, which is fishman to a T.

>> No.54396972

>>54396888
she's also in canada and phase is canadian

>> No.54396980

>>54392704
She's a raper not a singer

>> No.54397035

>>54396980
>A raper
god I wish

>> No.54397054

>>54396980
Rapper, anon. One involves rap, a form of music.
The other involves rape, a sexual felony.

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>>54396980
>raper

>> No.54397118

>>54395981
No, the reason at the time was that she was collabing with "Fake weebs" despite literally everyone in that podcast having watched more anime than id say just about anyone in en, owning more physical anime merchandise than anyone in en, and on a fairly regular basis.
Face it, hololive fans freak out whenever their oshi so much looks at a male because the two seconds that they spend talking to one another confirm that they're fucking behind the scenes

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This has to be the most retarded thread I've seen all day.

>> No.54397165

>>54396980
Yeah, she rapes me all the time

>> No.54397217

>>54393236
Mysta literally achieved his life goal of buying a house and land for his mum and doesn't feel like he needs to work ever again, dude fucking made it and now wants out because his fangirls are mentally ill.

>> No.54397232

>>54396516
Are they not liking the bondage wave?

>> No.54397283

>>54392704
Stop coping ninafag. If she was overwhelmed by being overshadowed in Anycolor, how much more if she's in Cover? And besides, Holos prepare for their debuts for a very long time and they still think it was cutting it close with not even getting all what they envisioned for their debut (song, assets, etc)

>> No.54397365

>>54395201
>Veibae is also likely going to become a fleshtuber with her boyfriend and join mythic the second she can
Vei joined Mythic before she left Vshojo, I also don't think she'll become a fleshtuber anytime soon. She avoids cameras like a vampire avoids sunlight.

>> No.54397625

>>54397232
Funny thing is that it was only Bandage man that made that shitty sex joke pre-debut. It just ruined the perception of his entire group just with one tweet.
Anyways to answer your question, no. The group is mostly high 3 views already, with some odd spikes to 4-digit CCV territory. Not like it matters, they could've gotten the best talents in existence and they'd still be struggling in current day NijiEN. There's just so little excitement.

>> No.54397685
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>quits hololive
>achieves her dream
>was on stage next to her husbando in front of thousands of adoring fans
>constantly flown around the world for events and sponsorships
>can't walk in her house because she has too many presents laying around
>has sex with hot vtuber chicks and/or models every night
kson I kneel

>> No.54397786

>she [headcanon]
Ksonfags....

>> No.54397931

>>54390343
Selen is going indie since she can survive with all her Apex contacts.

The only Corpo she might join is Hololive, and that assumes they give her flexibility she enjoys currently with her collabs.

>> No.54398079

>>54396376
Nyan and Vei left because they just don't give a shit about Vshojo anymore. They were never really interested in their vtuber services, conventions, 3D, etc. they were only there for social networking reasons, and they have since replaced their vtuber friends with their new boyfriends. And neither of those boyfriends are in Vshojo so there's nothing for them there anymore.

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>>54397786
I mean everything in the post above yours is easily provable. She always wanted to be in Yakuza, and she won the contest so she gets to be in 2 games. During AX she was at the Yakuza panel so she hung out with Kiryu's voice actor IRL picrel is a cute rendition of their meeting I don't know about Kson-specific events like Nijigen, but at the very least VShojo did 100% pay for her flight to AX to appear there in person and she tried to get the CEO to upgrade her seat during the panel lol She's done multiple gift opening streams recently so you can see how high the stacks of boxes are.

Pretty much the only unconfirmed one is that very last one.

>> No.54398943

Fuck you for giving me hope, OP. All I want is for the girls I enjoy to not have to work for a black company, and all I get are shitposts like this.

>> No.54399013 [DELETED] 

>>54390343
Phase friend here, we don't want this stupid menhera. She is technically a sad girl I suppose and would fit with the sad girl company branding, but she is also a gross fatty with a disgusting voice and sense of humor so no thank you.

>> No.54399105

>>54394057
Sorta interesting how the shu point gets changed to being bullshit when the initial spam about Nina all had shu basically as the next one. Classic regards not wanting to be wrong. Just accept it not like it matters who it was, a win is a win for such console war brains

>> No.54399119

I knew Niji was shit, but their entire english branch is tumbling down
Please Yagoo rescue Pomu and Rosemi, at least they should be spared

>> No.54399200

>>54399119
Just Rosemi. Pomu became a total Niji bootlicker and I am sick of her.

>> No.54399244

>>54399119
fuck off. we don't want any of them.

>> No.54399263

>>54397685
good for her honestly
even though I havent really watched her since she quit Holo, I can't wish anything but the best for her

>> No.54399282

>>54398943
Its probably not going to happen, as nice as it would be just so the talents can be watched as entertainers without feeling like they're a bunch of hostages. NijiEN gets that uncomfortable to watch sometimes.

>> No.54399358

>>54399200
she's so ridiculously burnt out now it's actually sad
Like I don't care about her Niji bootlicking, it's the best she's gonna get, but there's nothing left of the girl I loved

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>>54398079
Mythic probably also offered them a better deal, Kson tweeted that she managed to negotiate a better contract with Vshojo after Vei, Nyan, and Silver left.

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Selen seems so detached from all of NijiEn bar a few collabs here and there. With her branching into Apex commentary and what not I wouldn't be surprised if she left to go Indie again or some shit. I wish both her and Pomu just leave Niji and let the EN branch sink.

>> No.54399955

>>54399680
most people with an oshi in NijiEN wish said oshi would get the fuck out of there the moment a better opportunity arrives, I imagine

>> No.54400199

At the rate NijiEN is imploding I think it's just gonna be Reimu left in a couple of months. Even with a measly 20% cut a $10 donation still makes her a millionaire down in her country

>> No.54400544

>>54392431
>EN4
So in another two years?

>> No.54400723

>>54391369
how would japan even enforce that on foreigners?

>> No.54400786

>>54390343
i can see a new wave of these talents to leave companies and go indie. Look at rushia and nyanners, they still rack in huge numbers, their fanbase is basically the same. Theres no reason for them to share their revenue with a company

>> No.54400863 [DELETED] 

Why the fuck are kikegumis brigading a fucking nijinigger thread?
Make an artificial anti thread of your oshi to praise her never go wrong endeavors and let us continue shitting on nijis in peace.

>> No.54400897

>>54397685
Honestly though. Had she stayed in hololive she never would have been staring in one of her favorite franchises she would have been making less money and probably would have been shunned still for the China incident.

>> No.54400902

>>54390134
Gambling company under name Konami owned by zhang managed by Yacht Boy LGBT as company Logo
Damn

>> No.54400916

>>54400723
I still don't think anyone wants to fuck around and find out.

Also Sayu still hasn't been sued that was just some bullshit rrat I inferred but she cleared it up with chat

>> No.54401025

The future of Vtubing is full independence. By the end of the decade we'll see significantly decreased influence from all current vtubing companies, while active talents move to form federated groups between each other.

>> No.54401202

>>54401025
It's basically just indies and Hololive right now anyway

>> No.54401436

>>54390134
>phase former niji manager
They're blowing up next

>> No.54401473

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1883399682?sr=a&t=870s

>> No.54401613

>>54401436
Is that really true?

>> No.54401705

>>54401025
meanwhile back in reality, the massive boost to EN gen 3's twitters/youtubes before even debut continues to reinforce the value of the interconnectivity inherent to big corpo.
i do think there is value in some personalities being independent, but you are a fruitcake.

>> No.54401886

>>54401705
This, Holo is too big to fail or lose prestige

>> No.54402702

>>54392431
Why do you think every chuba wants to be in Hololive? Not everybody want that deal with the fan base or commit to the idol activities.
There people that just want to stream in their niche and with familiar faces, Hololive is not the end goal of vtubing.

>> No.54402733

>>54390343
There are some rrats about VSPO releasing a EN branch. Considering what happened with NUn Bora, it is a possibility.

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An entire thread about Selen graduating and no Selen pics. DESGUSTANG!

>> No.54403028

With her entrance into the Apex scene and being more recognized by those creators I think she is going to want the permanence of being Indie. Old indie so she can play on her predator account too.

>> No.54403062

>>54402733
Dead end effort. Too many reasons for it to not grow like JP did. Top one being unless they somehow convince every relevant female Apex and Valorant streamer and have the framework and enough clout to push collabs with e-sports celebs often this just won't work.

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>>54390134
damn rap + really got into her head

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>>54401025
>By the end of the decade we'll see significantly decreased influence from all current vtubing companies
By the end of the decade we'll all wonder why we ever used to pay flesh women piloting poorly rigged anime models to barely pay attention to us. Instead we'll hang out one-on-one with our custom tailored AI waifus in VR/AR.

>> No.54403939

>>54394013
The one niji that leaved and join to Holo become more successful, looks very happy in her collabs and gain a lot of subscriber.
The holos that joined VShojo, only one is arguably more successful. The other one is a total mess and recently got a side job with a carbon copy of her old persona in Hololive.
So, yes. I would say that the change from Niji to Holo is a upgrade and the one from Holo to Niji has mixed results.

>> No.54403997

>>54390134
how do you build a successful branch and nuke it down yourself? how incompetent and greedy can they be?

>> No.54404016

People in this thread really misuse the term "black company" quite frankly I'd love it if my oshi jumped ship to NijiEn as her company is literally just now getting her a second outfit, over 2 years after she debuted. She doesn't get to do meet and greets, has nothing for sponsorships, no voice packs, no merch aside from anniversaries, no 3d, no trips to Japan, and the icing on the cake is her company is owned by one of the largest name brands in Japan and the US (Sony).

>> No.54404816

>>54404016
anon none of this proves nijisanji is not a black company. it just proves nijisanji is a big company with money to throw around to rake in more money

>> No.54404828

>>54404016
this
niji isn't a black company just because a bunch of thinskinned westerners can't handle Japanese company politics

>> No.54404970

>>54395201
Yeah it's so weird watching Nyanners clips from a year ago with her then friends and then watching them now where it's her boyfriend and a bunch of fleshtubers from OTK/Mythic.

>> No.54405102

>>54404016
wait qrd? verseN is getting new outfits?

>> No.54405241

>>54403028
she wouldnt be able to brag about being pred ages ago and given how she is more chances of meltdowns. sounds fun

>> No.54405396 [DELETED] 

I think I'm starting to enjoy Airi's new voice...

>> No.54405454

>>54392431
>turned down twice
Pomu would have to hit a million subs to turn Yagoo's eye

>> No.54405807

>>54405454
>twice
she only applied once, for myth, back when she had no streaming experience

>> No.54405955

>>54405102
he is probably talking about Prism
Sony owns them now

>> No.54406042

>>54405955
Fuck. Sony black company confirmed.

>> No.54406068

>>54392431
Your whore will never get into hololive, she is too happy in her relationship with Luca

>> No.54406225

>>54390343
VSPO is probably better. She can fit in with the vtubers playing with competitive FPS scene and with each other niche easily. Bora EN style.

>> No.54406345

>>54404816
Niji has literally everything hololive does minus but has a smaller audience in the west and has managers that are about as competent as HoloEns were the first year and a half of en.
The only difference is that hololive hired people who werent menhera wrecks before joining, that and they're the "dominant tribe" of the board.
Selen will eventually get 3d. She's had countless convention appearances where she's been a headliner, she's got constant voice packs and her company is still bringing in new viewers and sponsorships.
My oshi gets none of that. And you can pull the whole
>but 2%!!!
Bullshit but it's a 50/50 split for voice packs and the lowest viewed person in NijiEn is higher than the highest person in her company, which is her....

>> No.54406817

Phase doesn't have anything to offer to someone obsessed with apex and competitive fps and she's not close to anyone there or the company. She's either going indie or vspoen

>> No.54406922

>>54405396
i see you, deleted lost pcg poster, and i agree with you. she's a different kind of cute like this. little mannerisms coming out we didn't get when she could vocalize.

>> No.54408028

>>54406225
the only vtubers playing apex competitively are men
idk if you know but the vspo girls are not competitive level of good at their games
if she wanted to interact with english-speaking vtubers playing apex, there are armies of them
the fact that she chooses to interact specifically with professionals should tell you what her goals are

>> No.54408231

>>54406225
Is VSPO any better? I remember one anon posting about how they got purchased by a different company a while back, but they're still supposedly under the same bad management.
Plus if they're a Japanese company, they still may be under the same dumb permission issues.

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If Nijisanji loses Selen, it's literally over for them.
Yugo? Okay
Zaion? Okay
Nina? Okay
Mysta? Okay
But SELEN? No shot. Niji would never be dumb enough to let her quit. Right...?
If Selen leaves, it's actually just over for them. Fr fr.

>> No.54408461

>>54408028
dick?

>> No.54408490

>>54408347
Complete catalog brain take. Nina and Mysta are way bigger losses for Niji than Selen would be.

>> No.54408616

>>54408490
Lmao

>> No.54408624

>>54394214
i'm gonna be honest, i thought like half of these were vshojo

>> No.54408666

>>54408490
>Mysta
Fair enough, Luxiem after all
>Nina
lol
lmao even

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>>54402764
>DESGUSTANG!
Okay, am I weird for hearing this in Bae's voice? Was that on purpose or am I just losing it?

>> No.54408784

>>54391369
No you can't do that anon.
Corpo only allowed to ban someone to not work in the same field for several months. Banning someone forever is unlawful.

>> No.54408878

>>54408490
Mysta sure thats obvious but nina? lmao

>> No.54408958

>>54408490
>nina
>a bigger loss than selen
fuck off retard

>> No.54408966

>>54390343
Should just wait and join vspo english.

>> No.54409162

>>54390914
Bruh, based on his slip on his taxes, he earn less than normal corpo.

>> No.54409682

>>54408720
>implying anyone on this board has their sanity intact
Loving every laugh.

>> No.54409747

>>54409162 me
I meant he earned less % than normal corp.

>> No.54409759

Stop coping, theres more chances of selen joining vshojo, an e sport company or being indie than en vspo.

something has to exist for her to join

>> No.54410812

>>54390343
>So you think Selen would move to phase as well?
That would be the best thing to ever happen to the company, as Pippa would be the one spear-heading the company anymore.

>> No.54410962

>>54402702
Because those "holo things" are what Pomu wants. She's been an honorary holo from the start and she'd be happier if she officially joined hololive. It's also funny how you mention the holo fanbase as if it's worse than the fanbase of fags and crazy chink sisters Nijisanji has cultivated.

>> No.54411028

>>54410962
holobeggar cope

>> No.54411138

>>54410962
Pomu has been coping real fucking hard that she doesn't want to be an idol because she has horrible self esteem, that's all

>> No.54411212

>>54408461
no, I think she's trying to diversify her audience out of being pigeonholed into weebs

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>hire a bunch of woke whores
>implode
I'm shocked...

>> No.54411290

>>54408490
Selen is the only one that makes EN feel like JP by hosting big tourneys with games since their management doesn't bother with that anymore

>> No.54411298

>>54411226
But Mysta is a male...

>> No.54411368

>>54392704
>Mori cant sing.
I get not liking her music, but this is just a fucking lie and you know it.

>> No.54411430

>>54411290
Nina, Selen, Millie (lol) and Luca (for the boys) are basically the only ones who ever organized anything for NijiEN

>> No.54411480

>>54391615
The insider predicted Nina, then "one of the guys". Shu rrats ensued.

>> No.54411516

>>54411430
Pomu too

>> No.54411523

>>54390134
Because of this >>54411410 Selen wants to be with him in peace

>> No.54411784

>>54392524
>niji thread
this was taken from /black/

>> No.54411808

>>54411516
Pomu does things for the Lazulight anniversary but that's it.

>> No.54411856

>>54390134
Real or not, EN4 and EN5 are going to be crazy

>> No.54411960

>>54390134
>I'm getting cut anyway
So this guy is one of the incompetent ones

>> No.54411987

>>54411856
EN3 is already kino because of the twins... imagine the future waves...

>> No.54412232

>>54411808
The Virtual to Live cover she organized included all ENs in the final chorus in order to celebrate the 1yr anniversary of the branch.
She organized an entire EN branch cover of Oto no Naru houe earlier this month.
She organized the NKODICE tournament earlier this year.

>> No.54412361

>>54395201
I remember when Nyanners was a celebrated presence on /v/. She really does throw away all goodwill on a regular basis.

>> No.54412437

so did the last leak poster do anything to suggest legitimacy or was it just a "wait and see" approach?

>> No.54412452

>>54411212
She is a vtuber thats never happening

>> No.54412536

>>54412437
The only somewhat legitimate leak that came out was that they said that "Someone big" would graduate shortly after Nina. They never said who exactly, but they werent wrong since Mysta is one of the few million-subbed chuubas the company has.

>> No.54412621

EN4 will be an exiled themed and composed of Nijisanji members. All them will be under the protection of Princess Luna

>> No.54412667

>>54390134
Selen... Come to Holo. Mumei can nep hire you...

>> No.54412685

>>54412437
see >>54396621

>> No.54412752

>>54392300
She's the reverse Fubuki, for as long as she's in a corpo you can be guaranteed that corpo is a black corpo

>> No.54412857

>>54412621
But they cant understand Luna... shit, not even the Japs can understand Luna when she speaks... also someone post THAT Luna webm

>> No.54413139

>>54412857
>someone post THAT Luna webm
https://streamable.com/2gywq3

>> No.54413147

>>54412667
Holo has too many unicorns and Selen has to collab with males because girls are bad at Apex and StartEnd is full. She'll get Mori'd to oblivion.

>> No.54413153

>>54411987
>Waves
We have Gens in real vtuber agencies, nijikek.

>> No.54413251

>>54412752
Yeah, she does a good job talking about the ways the company is shitting the bed. Holofags wouldn't want someone exposing Cover's issues.

>> No.54413274

>>54413139
BRAT

>> No.54413573

>>54408231
The company who bought them is notoriously bad but so far nothing seems to have changed for the worse with VSPO. They even got all 3D this year and are still growing with a couple of newly hired talents so I guess they aren't going to kill their only golden goose.

>> No.54413691

>>54413147
She has to collab with males to get carried

>> No.54413837

>>54390134
Then Shu, then Vox… last man standing is Ike. Then Selen. Everyone will jump ship… I mean Tazumi’s yacht.

>> No.54413921

>>54413691
Okay bronzie

>> No.54414041

>>54390134
Show me the thread you coward.

>> No.54414205

Nobody likes holoshit

>> No.54414244

>>54397217
you cant be this delusional lmao

>> No.54414480

>>54413921
Yes I underperformed heavily, there’s no sugarcoating it. My role was endgame but I was never able to fully utilize it on the day and it made me the runt of the team. I’ve tried to fix my weakness but the amount of hours of personal coaching from various pros and coaches didn’t Prepare me when my actual weakness was my emotions.

Sorry

>> No.54414605

>>54408490
Let them cook, it's funnier when they post a bunch of dumb inaccurate shit full of confidence because all they know about nijien is catalog rrats

>> No.54414616

>>54414480
Nice blog, anon.

>> No.54414663

>>54414205
I pitied you sister that you're enjoy seeing your oshi being tortured by her own company.

>> No.54415634

>>54414205
nobody likes you nijisis. not even your oshi kek

>> No.54416459

>>54414616
he is quoting Selen post-vsaikyo

>> No.54416975

I really don't get it, NijiJP is not that bad
and yeah I know Holoboard will deny this fact but I think the problem isn't really Niji but rather Americans, in fact, I have no idea how HoloEN is working so far
maybe it is the fact that Holo has such a strong culture the EN brand at least tries a little to stick to the Holo brand

>> No.54417093

>>54416975
>but rather Americans
you mean SEA and chinksisters

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It's always impressive to see the lengths holofaggots will go in trying to validate their delusions.

>> No.54417170

>>54411430
all of luca big events are fucking dogshit
most is just him and them on a vrchat room wihtout no rpepration or unique assets.

>> No.54417207

>>54416459
That's good on Selen to admit weakness. Fact remains that if she wants to be competitive, she'd still have to queue with males. There's nobody in HoloEN that's good at Apex as her, runt or not.

>> No.54417425

>>54392630
Elaborta, present the rrat plz.

>> No.54417441

>>54413837
Vox leaving Niji is like Gura leaving Holo or IronMouse leaving Vshojo. That would basically doom NijiEN

>> No.54417476

>>54412452
i agree, but I don't think there's any hope of her scaling her current audience up to the a-lister numbers that'd be enough to think about this as a lifetime thing instead of just a temporary stop before going back to a career path
if that's her goal then at some point she's going to have to attract thousands of normies in CCV

>> No.54417684

>>54394178
Is that why 3 of the biggest members left vshojo lol

>> No.54417783

>>54411856
Selen joining holo would mindbreak /vt/ for months.

>> No.54417794

>>54417207
too mentally weak for that, the moment the pros or their fans start shittalking to her she ll break, glass cannon at its best

>> No.54417956
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>>54414205
I used to shit on Holo after both Myth and Council basically collapsed thanks to management going full retard.

But now Holo is raising again while Niji as falling apart. A lot of smaller corps are doing great too.

>> No.54417981

>>54417783
Whom nijisisters, holosisters? Both?

>> No.54418208

>>54417794
She was doing okay last stream in ShibuyaHAL custom. It's really up to her to decide, not us. I don't think she'll give up her male connects easily, so my point stands. She'll do badly in Holo.

>> No.54418348

>>54417441
neither of nijien get numbers alone anymore
they destroyed their own viewership with months of meherabehavior or breaks.
their own viewers are so secular they probably dont overlap with any of each other.

>> No.54418397

>>54417476
The only way she can achieve that playing apex is being a pro and we know thats not happening.

>> No.54418586

>>54418348
Don't forget male collabs

>> No.54418826

>>54417981
Everyone.

>> No.54419124

>>54390882
Which one? Legitimately asking because I find both extremely irritating. Finana especially.

>> No.54419658

>>54418208
I meant in an actual competitive setting on her own or when she is doing bad. Thats when she breaks so easily

She wont give up her male connections sure but she will have a meltdowns for it. Shes always been like that why would she change now

>> No.54419712

The Pomu rrats are beyond retarded besides muh male in stream!! I second for getting Rosemi, Pomu and Selen out of there. The problem with Pomu is her loyalty to Lazulite, and the repercussions of leaving them behind.

>> No.54419860

>>54393794
Hey man please keep my Kerberos wife out of shit threads like this.

>> No.54419910

>>54419712
>has a mental breakdown because of a toddler racing game

>> No.54420202

>>54400786
>they still rack in huge numbers,

nyanners went from a 10k to a 3k-4k andy but yeah she is still big.

>> No.54420294

>>54390134
>Making up BS as deflection
Trying too hard there, Nijisis

>> No.54420698

>>54419658
Sure, and my points were that she'll do badly in Holo because she needs males in company full of obsessed unicorns, and that she still outskills many Holomems so they can't roll with her. Her meltdowns are another story. I'd be happy to be proven wrong and see her thrive in Hololive, however.

>> No.54420897

>>54419910
A mental breakdown would be crying and hitting End Stream.
Pomu calmly exited the game and switched to zatsudan/superchat reading.

>> No.54421639

>>54418208
JP holos collab with male Apex players all the time why would this be a problem?

>> No.54421770

>>54421639
JPs keep everything professional, ENs always end up flirting

>> No.54422618

>>54419910
>Take break due to friends funeral
>Get back to job and a little shit in your chat trolls you
>quit
Buh she was in the wrong :^)
I recommend to fix your smooth brain asphyxiation via BBC fyi no need to thank me.

>> No.54422843

>>54390675
It's what happens when you act so shittily audiences stop giving you the benefit of doubt

>> No.54423009

>>54421770
>pic of Matsuri
Cope

>> No.54423263

Selen is hiding something to her dragoons
>Selen plays an apex tournament with nocturnal.
>She doesn't tell anyone and never mentions it.
>It's not the first time she's done this with Nocturnal.
>This is the apex tournament In which selen participated with nocturnal.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5I-eBoVo0nc
https://twitter.com/ihuugumi0703/status/1668552756544802816
>An older apex tournament where selen also participated with nocturnal.
>Selen never talked about it either
https://twitter.com/xLegendaryDollx/status/1663000367528026114

>> No.54423298

>>54421639
Have you seen how schizo this board became over HoloEN male collabs? Selen will be able to collab with males, it's just that her numbers will probably tank and that's not ideal for her.

>> No.54423394

>>54420698
I agree hololive would be the death of her, she can shittalk her management and get perms her way because she is someone in niji,

In holo she would be more restricted and she would only be one more and would be suspended or dropped if she tried that

>> No.54423413

>>54393087
bless your heart

>> No.54423432

>Selen and Nocturnal got caught on a e-date

Hal:
>I didn't know i was interrupting a date
>I know you had to try hard to impress *someone* but chill noc
>I didn't know you played offstream
https://www.twitch.tv/tsm_imperialhal/v/1883399682?sr=a&t=870s
https://www.twitch.tv/tsm_imperialhal/v/1883399682?sr=a&t=1913s

>> No.54423581

>Nocturnal hinting that he has more power over Selen's decisions than her own dragoons
>I know a lot of her fans (Dragoons) are tired of seeing apex (...) But I'm gonna drag her (Selen) to play more if she wants to...
https://www.twitch.tv/ohnocturnal/v/1877227986?sr=a&t=12215s

>> No.54423675

>Restia and nocturnal talking about selen
>Chinese fans knows him as her dog
https://www.twitch.tv/restiafps/v/1873405876?sr=a&t=1625s
Noct:
>i want to be more than that

>> No.54423683

>>54423432
Send it to the dramafags or spam it on her art tag so her paypigs can see it and mald.

Or send it to one of the apex youtubers that make compilations everyday im sure theyll post it they dont care

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>Selen rejected Aia's invitation to DnD
but wait a minute

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>>54423432
I don't like Hal but that's pretty based

>> No.54423932

>>54423263
Selen was in Nocturnal's stream on twitch days ago, they were paying apex rank.
Selen didn't tweeted about being in there.
Selen still doesn't talk about why she didn't say anything about being on nocturnal's twitch channel
>Selen mentions A stream with Nocturnal and iPN
>doesn't specify which one and she doesn't give details of having been in a stream recently
It would be understandable if she had been in her quiet grind mode, But she was in full streamer mode, there is no excuse this time.
Same thing with overwatch on how selen omitted to mention nocturnal when it's obvious they were playing together
https://twitter.com/Selen_Tatsuki/status/1683916374182330368
https://twitter.com/oh_Nocturnal/status/1683528448763936782
She keeps hiding things from her dragoons

>> No.54423995

>>54421639
They do not, it's pretty much just Towa/Matsuri and occasionally Laplus. Matsuri's Apex numbers are god awful outside of a pack opening stream, and Towa offsets that some by playing with big names like Selly, Tsuna and the StartEnd girls. A better example would be this recent Valorant stream where the girls accidently queued into the Holostars team. Ayame "suddenly" crashed, and poor Nene ending up losing Nekkos who outright did not want her playing with boys.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bc5mmIwvNjo

>> No.54424052

>>54423298
I dont think Selen would be hurt so much so long as she makes it clear that she plans on collabing with men from the very start like Bae. You can say it hurt her but compared to tons of streamers both in and outside of vtubing shes still doing great, and people cant really hold shit against her because she made it clear from debut.

>>54416975
I think the reason why HoloEN works to an extent is because the talents really are their own support network. Yes it's not huge with only 15 members tops after nearly 3 years of existence, but the girls are well acquainted with each other by this point and they know their strengths and weaknesses, for better or ill. And I think there's also more of a "one for all" mentality where everyone is encouraged to work together so that everyone does better, a rising tide lifts all ships or however that saying goes.
NijiEN I don't think really has that same kind of connection, because everyone just separates into their own little groups due to the rate that they just shotguns talents. And it also creates a feeling of internal competition if one group starts to do better than the other, or fear and anxiety that viewers and paying fans will group will the moment a new wave debuts, as Pomu seems to go through nearly every single time. If that one "ALL OUT WAR" discord leak is any indication too, it's clear that NijiEN also isn't the healthiest environment to work in, it just fosters negativity.

>> No.54424158

>>54423995
how dumb can a person possibly be to unicorn over nene, the one hololive member who is confirmed to be in a romantic relationship with every male on the planet

>> No.54424316

>>54424052
>or fear and anxiety that viewers and paying fans will group will the moment a new wave debuts
Jesus I need to get some sleep, I can barely write at this point.
Fear and anxiety that fans will leave* the moment a new wave debuts.

I guess there's also the problem that Nijisanji is now pressured by shareholders to constantly exceed Infinite Growth even when its impossible, so that also doesn't help. That and the fanbases are constantly at odds because even when the talents try to force unity, there are certain members that other fanbases just loathe. Even if I liked some of the talents there, it's just a flawed work environment built on shakey foundations and the problems are really starting to show at this point.

>> No.54424348

>>54424052
>I dont think Selen would be hurt so much so long as she makes it clear that she plans on collabing with men from the very start like Bae. You can say it hurt her but compared to tons of streamers both in and outside of vtubing shes still doing great, and people cant really hold shit against her because she made it clear from debut.
Sure, if this works out I've nothing against her joining Holo. It's about time HoloEN gets an esport chuuba.

>> No.54424398

>>54421639
Selen is a glass cannon she will get the end of the banter with pros and she will go menhera about it.

The other girls are also like that but they dont pretend to be ok with so the other pros never go oveeboard with it.

>> No.54424515

>>54424348
I hope they get one this wave. I'm also hoping for one who's big into competitive Pokémon but I don't think that's happening, the number of women on the planet who even know EVs exist is probably in the double digits.

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