/#/ - Numbers thread

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>>53910304
*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://www.hololive-songs.com/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber
>https://www.nijiuta.com/

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

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GRIM

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>>53910013
They still lost July and half of August anon.
No one is even claiming their strategy is doomed, but a shitty strategy needs to be called out all the same. Just because they are saved as their opposition is a limp dick on 10 out of 12 months, doesn't mean their strategy is out of criticism

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Hololive dying? No worries, the next buff game arc is here to save the day!
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2289400/MAD_WAY/

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>>53910304
>cum in the thumbnail
Sisters are gonna report the post instantly.

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I will cum on Mumei's sweaty feet when she passes the clock.

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>>53910510
Views are views, if you can't even get FPS tourists watching you what value does your content have?

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>>53910503
It is sponsored by puyoteto itself.

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>>53910612
There is a ripoff multiplayer Only Up game I saw on steam the other day too kek

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>>53910590
There is nothing "out of criticism", but the criticism is unfounded and based on a retarded premise
Hololive just reached their highest point on record this month for their median and one of the top 3 highest points for their average.
Whatever they're doing GREATLY outrank last year's RUST arc, for instance and by almost a full k.
The only difference between this year and last years is
1) Hololive is outperforming Hololive 2022
2) Nijisanji is greatly outperforming Nijisanji 2022

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>>53910590
Keep saying that, sister. Holo's strategy has continued to improve their numbers while Niji lost everything from their koshien last year. Tourists that don't watch other streams, don't stick around or do anything else for your brand are of dubious value.

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I need one (1) single person to tell me why two billionaire companies should focus their whole business strategy on winning le epic /#/ monthly gold tally

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Embarrassing past of # was revealed last thread
Dumb people supported Tempus1 debut back then
Did you support them or remain neutral?
You are probably the problem too alright

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My advice to any level-headed Hololive fan in here. Please detox from /#/ for at least 3 months. Enjoy your content free of what "gatekeepers" tell you to. You've been unseated, but hopefully not for too long.

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>>53910612
>mfw Pekora loses the first time buff for this game because the stolen asset yab of OnlyUp made Cover too autistic about granting perms for it.

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>>53910612
Shit games like this cost 9 bucks. Game developers really racking it in but losing all their money on steam cuts.

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>>53910617
Just die

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>>53910688
They're just pooling their box views into fewer streams this year, meanwhile holoRUST was gathering a lot of tourist mindshare across far more streams. Not the same.

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>>53910661
The most worrisome thing about this take is that are not baiting and you really believe it

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>>53910556
But why, the service is getting worse
Not that matters too much tho, I mostly use it to support chuubas I watch
>>53910736
Their talents have this place living rent free in their heads leading to garbage morale without it

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its funny that riku decided to lower the portuguese bots a bit at the same time the female football world cup has started, as if that would make it more believable. Or did they just get more expensive now?

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>>53910688
>Nijisanji is greatly outperforming Nijisanji 2022
How about comparing non-Koshien Niji stream from last year with this year

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>>53910736
stop asking questions!

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>>53910661
Next you'll be arguing for the value of shorts views. Retard.

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>>53910688
>>53910734
Stop posting this cope graph. Every Holo's (save some ID and EN) numbers are down from a year ago.
>>53910590
I definitely want something different than Holosummer last year. This whole month has just been bleak outside Pekora's 24 hour stream desu

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>>53910617
KEK

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>>53910688
>>53910734
>both nijiEN and holoEN numbers are down compared to last year
Grim for sisterke'ks and ENk'eks.

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GTA numbers
>350k

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>>53910680
Nigga there were never any sponsor, they merely shilled it because it's a fucking tournament of their game

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Holo only GTARP server when

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>>53910688
>en vtubers are dying regardless of company
>jp vtubers are thriving regardless of company
truly we are in the best timeline

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>>53910612
want to actually incline? Play the Fortnite's Only Up maps instead

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>>53910736
>Explain to me why a business wants to be popular?
Are you retarded?

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>>53910792
Other streaming services like spotify already raised their prices recently, so it's only a matter of time for YT to follow suit

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>>53910590
>>53910688
To drive the point further, here are all of the 40k+ streams by Holos and Nijis (discount that Kanae one, it's a vrabi bug).

The only reason NIjisanji is even competitive this month (and ahead in golds) is because of Koshien. There is nothing else going on for them and nothing Hololive could do, as that audience is completely foreign to vtubers and won't watch even other Nijisanji streams, let alone other vtuber streams

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>>53910661
What value are FPS tourist numbers if they don't bring in profit? Tourists are not gonna spend money on your chuubas, only core fans will do that. Chasing empty numbers is not a good strategy at all.

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>>53910796
Would have to ask the chart anon unless someone else wants to field it.

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>>53910816
HoloEN's numbers are up for all of EN except for Mori, Ame, and Kronii.
All of NijiEN's numbers are down
HoloJP's numbers are down from a year ago
NijiJP's numbers are up from a year ago.

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INDOCHAD WW@

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>>53910680
I wonder how they felt seeing the whole community declared the game a broken mess because Marine was too good abd dominated everyone too hard.

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>>53910770
Fuck off, I didn't report it.
Just had my hornyposting containing Nijis and Kanata get me banned too many times.

They're very trigger happy for stuff that doesn't get you even warned if it has regular Holos.

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>>53910821
How is it compare to western streamer scene? Last I remember XQC leading NoPixel with consistent 70k+ stream roleplaying the most notorious criminal in the server

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>>53910873
Oh it's the suki-kira shitposter again

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>>53910835
HoloEN is inclining, NijiEN is reclining
NijiJP is inclining, HoloJP is reclining
>>53910864
Forgetting VCR GTA being the new meta?

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>>53910804
>Every Holo's (save some ID and EN) numbers are down from a year ago.
By which metric? That would be weird, their aggregate metrics being up but ALL of their individual metrics being down.
There are some girls down, some girls up but, on the aggregate, they're clearly doing better than one year ago

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>>53910804
>Holo JP is way up.
>Retard says this means they're down.
Really makes you think.

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>>53910864
>The only reason NIjisanji is even competitive this month (and ahead in golds) is because of Koshien
>only reason
Oh you must be blind then.

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Who would have guessed that Nijis would not be magnanimous in their one month victory...

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>>53910865
More numbers = more mainstream mindshare = more sponsorship deals

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>>53910826
Will there even be enough people to make it interesting?

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>>53910688
>>53910734
How much will Gura incline that HoloEN graph now that she's back?

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>>53910923
>Z'd stream creating a bug in growth
Yeah about that.

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>>53910821
and the highest female playing it is a male..

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>>53910736
>2 Billionaire companies

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>>53910873
>HoloJP's numbers are down from a year ago
>>53910734
>Nijifaggot can't retard charts

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>>53910804
>Every Holo's (save some ID and EN) numbers are down from a year ago.
Do ENdogs really?

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Inclining:
Gen 0, Gen 2, Gen 4, Gen 6, Gamers

Reclining:
Gen 1, Gen 3, Gen 5

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>>53910892
Retard, you're the one who brought attention to it

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>>53910864
>nothing else going on for them
He says when today's gold wasn't Koushien.

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>>53910840
>popular to (26) people active on this thread
lmao

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>>53910964
Go rope, shitpost-kun.

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holospy here, the tale of the nijicucks on reddit place event is beyond comedy
>hololive strong, repelling tens of thousand turkroach attacks backed by big streamer
>meanwhile niji got cucked by chile from the south, too weak to defend
>confronted by azerbaijan from the west, niji is losing but still somewhat holding ground
>azerichad propose an "alliance", you scratch my back i scratch yours
>"yeah bro, help us restore our flag and we'll help you bro"
>"no fr bro, we'll create heart or some shit between our flag and your gay logo whatever you want bro"
>nijicucks proceed to do as they told and repair and defend azerbaijan flag from the frenchies
>in return, azerbaijan completely blindsided nijicucks and took over their logo completely
>now nijicucks is getting assblasted and crying in discord

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>>53910989
>inclining
Hololive all 35 members
>declining
Everyone else.

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>>53910965
this is a woman

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>>53910804
Can you even read graphs anon? Im seriously starting to worry.

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>>53910892
>Nijis and cunny scare schizos
>Schizos now mass report it
Almost like I’ve been saying that for a while. All that’s left is either homobegging or en spam

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>>53910897
NoPixel had actual serious RPers making sure the big streamers could have a sandbox full of human npcs to make content.
The current invite system pales in comparison so it's reflected in the depth of the content.

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>>53910688
Despite being low-value and unloyal, tourism is still very required for the health of your audience.
This also goes for containment breakers that keeps having fights with clip watchers and secondaries/tertiaries on twitter.
Core viewers are BAD for Algos, that includes YouTube and Twitter.
Tourists in the other hand is Great as they also consume all other kinds of content (most likely other popular contents) which give hints to the algo that those other viewerbase might want to watch holo content as well.
Core viewers in the other hand only watch holos for hours and none other, which became a dead end algorithmatically, or at least way less effective than a tourists.
This is why Nijisanji appears so often on trending and has high twitter stats, their audience are diverge enough and full of tourists that their consumption of a niji content are spread everywhere else faster than any holo content could due to the latter insulated audience.

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>>53910929
GTA shit only buffs Kuzuha to competitive numbers.

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>>53910962
That depends how much she streams and how much everyone else streams, but one person can only move the chart so much.

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Anyway, we won't be seeing any Holobox game any time soon, at least until HoloSummer and Blue Journey end

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>>53911023
who's the streamer/s defending the hololive logo?

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>>53911023
>time
A literal flip tribalfagging for hololive, yikes.

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>>53910680
Nigga if it was actually sponsored the champion wouldnt only get a trophy png.

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>>53910918
>Forgetting VCR GTA being the new meta?
Mate, did you not even glance at >>53910864?
There is a grand total of three GTA streams over 40k (including today's, not in that pic), all from Kuzuha.
Without Koshien there would be a grand total of SIX streams by NIjisanji over 40k.

Here are ALL of the GTA streams (not from Hololive) that beat 20k
>it's only six of them
Eight with the ongoing ones, and from only two people
>Kuzuha
>Lauren

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>>53910920
the ones who relies on tourists for high numbers. which is the argument in question

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>>53910980
It's obviously a Nijifag.

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>>53911023
call me back when someone already attacked the holostars logo

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>>53910993
>posts cum in the op
>thinks it won't get noticed by jannies when they always camp this thread at these hours
Yeahhhhhh, I TOTALLY had the power to bring attention to your OP image with that comment.
Use your brain fuckhead.

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Marine's announcement tonight will probably be about her birthday plans, right? You think she was able to book the studio for a 3D Live?

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>>53911002
Do you realize how retarded your logic is? What if /#/s tracked TV shows instead and gave gold to the most watched show of the night. Do you see why that is important if one company has the most watched TV show 300 days out of the year?

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>>53911098
Skill issue. Just because hololive can't manage to get consistent 20ks with GTA doesn't mean it's not meta.

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>>53911061
The point is "only reason".

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>>53911023
This shit lame. I am just waiting for the Gacha Alliance Republic to enter the fray

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>>53911073
bend your ass to the azeris nijicucks hahahaha

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>>53910864
can you do the usual for tally, 10k streams?

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>>53911023
>>53911073
>flipagpag is the one shitting up the thread with all the reddit screenshots

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>>53911146
She said it herself, it will be for 3.0 something and a song

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>>53910865
more tourists = better algos = more subscribers whichs is confirmed KPI for holos

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>>53911176
hahaha

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>>53911123
There's plenty of mild nsfw stuff slipped past because no one paid them any attention. You just guaranteed it by pointing it out. Use your brain fuckhead.

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>>53910940
sponsorship deals will pay by your actual viewership on their shilling, not by how much you used to get when interacting with shaka and daruma on gta

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>>53910865
Retard, you would have nothing to convert to core fan without tourist. Core fan at the end of the day are ex-tourist

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>>53911068
I will take a holobox game over those shits.

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>>53911023
only hololive will survive

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>>53911026
might be a tuck, further proof required.

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>>53910937
Who cares about this shit, we've been wronged for nearly 2 years now. Order has finally been restored and hopefully forever.

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>>53911023
>>53911176
Pixel Reddit and retards talking to a fucking AI are the two most retarded things I've ever seen on Internet and these two are peak content for normies, I don't want to see anybody else complaining about "anime girls"

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>>53910865
tourists are future core viewers

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>>53910978
That chart specifically documents a Z for HoloJP, which was right around the time of Pekora's 24 Hour stream (later proven botted). Prepare for a very noticeable decline.
>>53911027
All of HoloJP's numbers are

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>>53911251
You don't attract sponsors without having good numbers in the first place

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I get browsing those board. But giving your lifespan away for some pixels.. that's avant garde

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>>53911307
Just report all the r/place posts.

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>>53911023
Are chumbuds Nijifags? What's going on here?

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>>53911282
if you gonna have the stars logo tack on at the end shouldn't it be holopro?

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>>53910929
>only reason
>Oh you must be blind then.
>>53910991
>He says when today's gold wasn't Koushien.
Without Koshien here is how the month would be
>pic related
Today is the first day in the whole month that gold would not be either
>Koshien
>Tsukasa Mahjong
>Hololive
and the month would be 18-2-1

Njisanji has Koshien and used it well in 2023 and it's having a great run but don't confuse that with anything other than Koshien attracting the Koshien audience.

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>>53911282
>proud to be a redditor
classic bololive behavior

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>>53910612
>Hololive dying?
no not really

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>>53911042
That graph is a cope because I've checked all 35 HoloJP members' numbers and they're almost all down from a year ago in terms of average CCV for the month of July except for Pekora, whose numbers were declining substantially all of May and June. You do the math and be the judge.

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>>53911352
Why quote my post if you are not planning to say anything?

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>>53911238

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I watch holos for the cgcdt but not the idol shits, but why is cover occupying their summer prime time with preps for idolshit instead of letting them play box games?

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>>53911290
https://litter.catbox.moe/kwhgbi.jpg

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>>53911056
oh yeah look at how valuable these >tourists are, cant even boost the non-koshien streams of even a koshien captain in middle of her tournament

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>>53911056
I want Hololive to compete with Nijisanji again. Staying in their own box is a harmful strategy when it comes to real growth. Maybe ditch Holosummer and idol content for a little bit and go back to it when the competition isn't there? Only way you could put your sworn enemy in check.

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>>53911352
If you don't count Koshien then Pekora's 24 hour event shouldn't count either

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>>53911210
The Live2D 3.0 unveiling isn't part of the announcement and she said nothing about a song, she said she's making the announcement during a singing stream.

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welp its over for vshjo

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>>53911375
>That graph using actual calculations is a cope because me (a 5 IQ monkey) looked at the numbers of 1 stream and arbitrarily decided that they DEFINITELY are worse than last year

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>>53911411
You do know all these can be used against Gura during her non-unarchived karaoke streams right?

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>>53911023
Kinda based ngl

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>>53911411
Holoseethe

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>>53911375
>I've checked
Post the numbers then, go ahead and tally the averages and post them side by side, because right now it just sounds like a bunch of fucking cope from you.

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>>53911352
Like half maybe more of the Holo ones are also event streams

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>>53911393
Can you even read?

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>>53911411
Shiina averaging 20-30K CCV/stream puts her in line with all of Holo 1st Army nowadays.
>>53911451
Just check it and stop denying reality. The numbers are GRIM

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>>53911056
the reason why nijisanji appears so much on youtube-curated trending, along with a lot of other women content, is the same way it used to be so on Twitter as well, until the biased curator trannies got fired >>36793238

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>>53911298
Caitlin…

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>>53911352
The fact that Koshien lost audience to GTA VCR these past 3 days means that they were drawing the casual jp tourists audience, which are not inherently only consume baseball content.
Koshien hasn't had a 50k+ stream ever since shaka blew up with 80k+ viewers on twitch. meanwhile Kuzuha already has 2 50k+ stream leeching from them.
The baseball audience were always up for grabs, the fact that Holo has failed this month means they just aren't doing enough. Something like a HoloRUST with maybe a fresher game may have siphoned 10k/20k from Koshien.

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>>53911023
The Azeri anthem is badass as fuck, they sound like an evil empire despite being a tiny irrelevant shithole

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXnDub9JCfI

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>>53911441
>checked /vshojo/
>no one is posting reddit shit
So only numbers is posting reddit shit or is it only 1 guy that shit up the entire thread?

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>>53911441
no one gives a shit plebbitor, not numbers

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>>53911400
If they do it then it is probably bringing in money

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>>53911400
incompetent strategy. hopefully next year they are more prepared

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>>53911490
I said you are wrong by saying "only reason" and nothing in your post address that.

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>>53911510
me encanta la tiburona

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>>53911523
Just report him and move on.

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>>53911026
That's too tight even for a pussy.
Does she have nothing down there?

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>>53911509
Correct. This is the current meta and only 3 Holos are catching on and being exposed by the likes of Chronoir and co. when it comes to actual mindshare.

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>>53911455
youve tried to post this same thing at least 3 times today, cant take gura out of your head anon? do you think at 30k>15k is the same as 100k>3k?

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>>53911493
>Shiina averaging 20-30k/stream
anon do you really?

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>>53911538
>yagoo
>for money
stars existing proves otherwise

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>>53911564
Tell me anon, what's the other reason then?

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>>53911595
Towa's just really tight.

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>>53911336
>That chart specifically documents a Z for HoloJP, which was right around the time of Pekora's 24 Hour stream (later proven botted). Prepare for a very noticeable decline.
Here is the Hololive chart, but removing Pekora entirely
>the trend doesn't change
it is still ahead of least year, ahead of last year's RUST arc peak and at one of the highest points on Hololive history

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>>53911602
NTA but she's definitely a regular 5view and has roughly the same mindshare or more mindshare than more than half to three quarters of HoloJP

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>>53911599
I am just warning you about what is to come.

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>>53911597
>This much samefagging bullshit

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HOLOLIVE UNDER ATTACK
it's over...

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Soup is just flavored water.

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>>53911602
accept reality already, shiina is a big streamer now and it is all thanks to koshien

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It's amazing how Nijis are actually worse than liggers.

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Oi, do your duty and get this spamming fuckwit outta here.

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>>53911635
Thank you for proving my point that they're reclining and the 1 year growth is closer to stagnant than actual growth. Movement is everything. While you're at it, let's see the real growth NijiJP has received the past year.

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>>53911623
Look at your own image, there are things other than Koshien.

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>>53911056
>Core viewers are BAD for Algos, that includes YouTube and Twitter.
OK, this is the last interaction between you and I.

This is pretty much
>if you sell out a venue you lose money
tier of argument. I'm out, having fun!

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>>53911411
tourists will have effect to their large tourist streams, regular streams of course wouldn't be affected unless the talent in question are capable to convert them to core viewers.
Last year for example Anycolor only has 2-3 100k+ non-salome streams before Koshien, after Koshien those numbers becomes 20+.
Which is exactly the issue with HoloJP today. regular viewers are healthy and even at an all time high as shown in the average chart. but ceilings are low die to low tourist which made them lose the month for July.

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>>53911052
Sfw lewds and cunny will get bans when reported?

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the tempus annivesary thing is tomorrow right
any chance they end the homos today? or it will be just after that

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>>53911647
Everything I said is correct though. Chronoir along with Toya (throw in Fuwa and possibly Shiina) are the 3 most popular VTubers in terms of CCV worldwide atm

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I guess this is what happens when newfags takeover. People are losing their minds at one loss and trying to cope.

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>>53911642
You got me anon, you wasted a few secs of my life to check your claim.

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>Senchou is at +50k subs a month and 28m views a month, ahead of 2nd place (Suisei) by 10m

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>>53911701
theres something else that has a large effect on large nijitourist streams

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>>53911741
>He can't tell it's like, 2-3 blokes samefagging on cooldown like the fuckwits they are

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>>53911735
>
Do not post the Chronoir stream number 2 days ago

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>>53911484
>>53911422
You two are missing the point, Koshien absolutely count and won the month for Nijisanji.
Anons at >>53910929 and >>53910991 contested that Koshien alone won the month for Nijisanji and the post you are responding is showing that Nijisanji doesn't have a single non koshien gold up until today

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>>53911697
The other reason Nijisanji would be competitive this month without Koshien is Kuzuha getting the first Nijigold the 21st of the month?
I'm NTA btw

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>tourist are good
YES
but this youtube and you need to undertsand something about it
if you get a bunch of tourist and these stop watching you get fucked by the algo.
becasue watching someone will make the algo recomned you more of them, BUT you not watching those recomendations will make the algo stop recomneding to you and probaly others becasue they will take it as
>this content isnt as good anymore

For channels whos main content is gaming is a careful thread they need to walk.

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>>53911298
Cringe, also I'm glad Caitlyn Myers will never be joining Hololive.

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>>53911769
Do you not know that those 2 individually have the power to mog any Miko, Marine, or Pekora stream? Not together, but individually?

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>>53911023
lmao this is fucking funny

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>>53911702
it unironicly does, if you only watch holos, the algo will only recommend the content you watch with other holo viewers or to a completely random viewer which will hurt the impression ratio

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Holobros are completely mindbroken

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>>53911692
>Thank you for proving my point that they're reclining
Anon? Are you blind? Their green line (their current moment) even without Pekora is at the highest point with only two single periods ahead of it
>HoloX debut
>New Years's eve and week

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>>53911735
hey why dont you claim that kuzuha is the biggest white-haired vampire with black clothes in the entire world too? lots of competition there, but he is clearly #1!

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I think the biggest problem with this holosummer is lack of cute girls being sexy in swimsuits

[Anonymous No.]

>>53911792

[Anonymous No.]

Upcoming Niji Koshien schedule:
>July 22
Nui #4 (13:00 JST)
Deron #5 (15:00 JST)
Ibrahim #4 (17:00 JST)
Watarai #4 (19:00 JST)
Toya #2 (20:30 JST)
Yashiro #4 (21:00 JST)
>July 23
Nui #5 (13:00 JST)
Watarai #5 (17:00 JST)
Leos #5 (19:00 JST)
Toya #3 (20:30 JST)
>July 24
(Undecided)
>July 25
Maimoto Niji Koshien news (22:30 JST)

[Anonymous No.]

>>53911809
I don't understand how no one looked at this and wondered if it actually appealed to hololive viewers
oh well

[Anonymous No.]

>>53911835
>HoloX debut
Flop
>New Years's eve and week
Doesn't hold a candle to NJU and their own New Year's events.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53911730
Happened during chinman cunny lewds and another niji girl. Schizos were complaining about the lewds then people were getting 15 minute breaks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53911441
count the pixels, /#/.

[Anonymous No.]

It is okay anontachi, you can stop larping as a retard and tribalfag now.

[Anonymous No.]

Numbers.

[Anonymous No.]

Are we going to ignore the fact Mumei did a handcam debut and didn't even clear 20k ccv?

[Anonymous No.]

>>53911926
>caring about NijiEN
lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>53911298
I can't believe Yagoo one-man spammed /vt/ with the magging meme he made up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53911926
tempusanji is clearly growing, these are amazing numbers

[Anonymous No.]

>>53911220
Doesn't matter if the algo promotes your content to people that aren't going to watch it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53911788
Yes? Or else are you going to say for example the only reason Argentina won the World Cup is because of Messi.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53911635
Can you do a average/median of 10 highest peak stream instead?
Some anons are arguing that HoloJP has more core viewers than ever but low tourists which mean low peak ceilings.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53911863
Nta but nju only beat holo on a single day no? And new year week holo pumped out multiple 100k streams.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53911735
>Everything I said is correct though. Chronoir along with Toya (throw in Fuwa and possibly Shiina) are the 3 most popular VTubers in terms of CCV worldwide atm
They're not by a large margin. Kuzuha and Kane are not even in the top 10 for July 2023

Here is the current top 10 for median of peaks for July, 3 or more streams in the month
>Holo Main channel
>Lize
>Toya
>Leos
>Holo First army
No kuzuha, no kanae, no Shiina, no Lauren

[Anonymous No.]

>>53911934
Only KFP knew it was a handcam

[Anonymous No.]

>>53911792
You don’t know how YouTube works you retard. Most youtubers have 60% of their audience as tourists that never subscribe

[Anonymous No.]

>>53911926
Damn Enna is really streaming for EU now.

[Anonymous No.]

Hibari seems like he could really gain a lot from Voltacion this year, Kanato as well. Would be interesting to see them all get big jumps in viewership especially after Koshien

[Anonymous No.]

>>53911298
When was this
> Caitlyn Myers is a homo supporter
No...

[Anonymous No.]

>>53911970
that wc was ridiculously rigged for argentina to win, anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>53911975
>Can you do a average/median of 10 highest peak stream instead?
I don't even undersatnd what this is. To restrict the set to only the 10 highest streams of the day for each branch?

[Anonymous No.]

>>53911926
wait wasn't rpr a vtuber? did he switch to face cam now

[Anonymous No.]

Handcams are gay shit
Pussy cam when? I want to see a cute chuuba wetting herself

[Anonymous No.]

>>53911276
>>53911329
Not all tourists are the same. If your typical content isn't FPS, then trying to appeal to the FPS crowd is a waste. People suggesting that Holos chase the FPS crowd would just end up with more Matsuris.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53911847
The fact that bikinis come last is retarded

[Anonymous No.]

>>53911987
>Leos in Top 3
Nice. Happy for him. Kinda surprised Shiina isn't even there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53911978
They changed NJU so that only one day was free to view. Honestly it is really sad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53912046
RPR was always a facecam fag and jumped on the vtuber train to try and be special

[Anonymous No.]

>>53911336
Stop shitposting.
>>53911635
Why are you replying seriously to someone obviously shitposting?

[Anonymous No.]

>>53912016
the poor girl just wants to get noticed. did you hear her latest original? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLwX3-AoL5g

[Anonymous No.]

>>53912054
The worst part is them all having what was obviously accessorized for Sora, they didn't even recolor the hip ribbon

[Anonymous No.]

>>53912035
Nah I watched the whole thing. It was legit. Not the point I was making btw.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53912056
>Kinda surprised Shiina isn't even there.
That's because Koshien doesn't translate at all to their day to day viewership.
Shiina didn't cease to be a 5k streamer because she is getting 50k with Koshien

[Anonymous No.]

>>53912058
Yea but niji still lost the new year week.

[Anonymous No.]

Is she...you know...

[Anonymous No.]

>>53911792
>recomneding to you and probaly others becasue they will take it as
yes that's true, low click through rate is bad for the algos.
But the same thing may happen to core viewers which get recommended a ton of streams/clips in their homepage/recs. You maybe click one or two, but the ones you didn't click send similar message to the algo as the tourists did ignoring 1-2 recs.
The goal with playing with algos here is to try to have holo content in as many recommendation box as possible, and hopefully they are interested with it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53912056
>Shiina isn't even there
she did too many regular streams. It will happen to any capt who fails to do less than 50% streams not koshien

[Anonymous No.]

>>53912114
Netherlands got robbed. That Argie bloke that kicked the ball into their bench should have been red carded right there and Argentine would have lost the game

[Anonymous No.]

>>53912142
challenging Gura

[Anonymous No.]

>>53911023
I don't fucking know what reddit place is and I don't really care.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53912142
She really comes across as desperate, what's her problem?

[Anonymous No.]

>>53912158
You and me don't make the rules, anon. It is what it is, and there are always controversial cases like this every world cup.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53912158
It was a murder ball match from both sides.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53912015
unlikely unless he's a genuinely good stream that he can convert tourists into core viewers

[Anonymous No.]

>>53911298

[Anonymous No.]

>>53912189
huh?

[Anonymous No.]

>>53912162
You got it backwards >>53907355

[Anonymous No.]

>>53912125
I barely recognize Shiina in that hairstyle.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53912142
Going to be depressing when she can't even get 15k.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53912110
>Sora was based on Kizuna Ai
>All of the Holos are based on Sora
that's exactly how it should be

[Anonymous No.]

>>53911484
I was doing a whole list but I got tired the 14th after realizing that it only changed 1 day so far, in fact, if Tsukasa's stream doesn't count because it's a collab, then Hololive wins those 2 days too. Most of the days the following 4-5 streams are also from Hololive playing an individual game

[Anonymous No.]

>>53911815
Don't see it in their last stream together

[Anonymous No.]

>>53912038
10 highest stream of the 30 day trail, is that possible?

[Anonymous No.]

>>53912110
Yea it sucks

[Anonymous No.]

>>53911855
Uhhhh why are there suddenly so many Koshien on 22nd? What happened to smart scheduling?

[Anonymous No.]

>>53912142
Mori... I don't even hate her but her desperate attempt to copy other in order to numberfags is sad, she really needs to find her thing to incline her stream

[Anonymous No.]

>>53911052
>Nijis scare schizos
Anon, there's a literal NijiJP schizo shitting up the thread right now

[Anonymous No.]

>Niji won the koushien month
>Yeah but what if there was no koushien
>Hololive would have won then

[Anonymous No.]

>>53912142
Good for her. I'll be sure to bot the stream at 40K

[Anonymous No.]

>>53912298
I was talking more about the fact Mori suddenly want to do unarchived karaoke on the same day Gura got 36k with it

[Anonymous No.]

>>53912144
>The goal with playing with algos here is to try to have holo content in as many recommendation box as possible, and hopefully they are interested with it.
Anon, you are SEVERELY misunderstanding the nature of Hololive business model and confusing it with the Ludwig business model.

For Ludwig, eyeballs are EVERYTHING! He is in the business of selling eyeballs, selling the biggest audience he can gather because that is what determine his revenue.
The more people he can promise to a sponsor to pop up in one of his special streams, the bigger is the sponsorship money he'll get.
These guys negotiation power comes from the size of the crowd they can show ads to, and I don't mean youtube ads but
>gambling den
ads, VPN ads, the same type of ads influencers are selling.
Ludwig doesn't need to have a 15k average on his live streams, all he needs is 3 events a year with 300k people watching and he's set.

Hololive business model is completely different, they're in the "direct sales" model.
They don't sell eyeballs to advertisers, they sell merchandise to loyal fans.
From Hololive's perspective the most important moment, the "conversion" moment is, at the end of a 3D Live, when they announce merch, that the loyal audience will pick up their credit cards and buy it RIGHT THEN AND THERE.

For Hololive ALL that matters is the loyal fans and their whole business model is geared to give them what they want to purchase

[Anonymous No.]

>>53912290
managers used to put 7 hours a stream, now due to 'smart scheduling' they can only do 3 hours max for most of the time which made a bunch of them behind schedule

[Anonymous No.]

>>53912016
Debut stream

[Anonymous No.]

>>53912350
That's not the point of the discussion. Not like you didn't know already and you are just shitting up the thread because you don't have anything else to do with your life

[Anonymous No.]

>>53911509
again you fail to understand a very basic thing about this so called >baseball audience

[Anonymous No.]

What happened to old #? Nowadays it is filled with either statisticlet and tribalnigga of any sides who straight out spew factual bs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53912226
>ASU higher than KAF
Eh, really?

[Anonymous No.]

>>53911855
too many Nijiko overlap at weekend, Holos have a chance to score gold if they actually try

[Anonymous No.]

>>53912162
Well then she already lost

[Anonymous No.]

>>53912247
Chronoir together is unironically a debuff

[Anonymous No.]

>>53912276
>10 highest stream of the 30 day trail,
It is possible but, what exacty is this measuring? Why 10? Shouldn't it be "10 highest streams of the day for the 30 days period"?

[Anonymous No.]

>>53912350
the power of Portugal

[Anonymous No.]

>>53912411
It all started with Luxiem, then phasecancers and jewshills came and it's been over since then

[Anonymous No.]

>>53912230
more like 10k

[Anonymous No.]

>>53912411
Holo fans being humbled means it's just returning to what it used to be. Hard statistics that don't take a biased stance.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53912382
I don't think mori understands that people watch gura for gura the karaoke is just the cherry on top

[Anonymous No.]

>>53912189
>Japanese unarchived karaoke two months ago
>unarchived karaoke with her mom three months ago
>last solo English unarchived karaoke was for Valentine's
How is this desperate? Might as well call the rest of EN desperate too since they do English unarchived karaokes more often than her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53912430
So Chronoir is shitter then, because Chronoir mean both Kuzuha and Kanae together

[Anonymous No.]

>>53912241
I just checked the last few days niji wins most of them unless you consider gta rp an event. Then you’re just removing 90% of the top streams

[Anonymous No.]

>>53912411
nijisweep with koshien

[Anonymous No.]

>>53912226
>>53912414
I mean, the list looks mostly accurate to me. What's wrong with it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>53912320
Their lewds*

[Anonymous No.]

>>53912480
Kuzuha + Kanae individually could mog the entirety of Hololive combined if they both streamed individually together.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53912142
>homo's "dad" doing this while they are on fire
Holoen is healing.

[Anonymous No.]

the bait is getting more and more retarded

[Anonymous No.]

I'm so bored, just announce EN3 or fire the homos already. Or both, I don't care...

[Anonymous No.]

>>53912532
Lewds don't scare anyone let's be real, this is 4chan. Speaking of lewds people should post them instead of responding to retards.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53912525
Chumpedos can't accept Mori is just a way more talented vocalist and musician than she or any JPlet will ever be.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53912411
schizosaplings make this their home and ruined it. There are actually number discussion, although barely, other than the normal graphs and charts, back before May but after the "friend yab" they somehow decided to permanently occupy here instead of periodically coming here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53912547
How bored are you anon lol? Got a few chuckle out of me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53912574
preferably both

[Anonymous No.]

>>53912387
I agree anon, but that doesn't mean they can't have both cakes and eat them too. the fact they are having an all time high on median/average DESPITE low ceilings is probably because what you said entirely works and converted a lot of people into core viewers.
My entire point from the previous threads was how they could compete better in gaining tourists in the summer against the other big players. it's not like they doesn't want them as shown with their attempts of outreach with outside collabs, shorts, etc. and with good reason since subscribers amount is obviously one of their KPIs which tourists are perfectly capable of doing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53912482
The last of them means today and the 19th, because Kanae's peak from yesterday is a bug, 18th Aqua gold, 17th Marine gold, 16th Subaru gold and 15th Pekora gold.
Unless you don't want to count Pekora's stream talking about the 24h stream. Then after disqualifying Koyori's new outfit, Flare's 3D live, Botans variety stream, Salome's new outfit and HoloEarth protolive, we have a Subaru playing Persona gold

[Anonymous No.]

>>53912462
Nah there are definitely a ton of tourists who only watch Gura for her karaoke, that's why her karaoke numbers are so buffed compared to her usual, even by JP standards.
That's the proof of Gura's draw.

[Anonymous No.]

back to the topic at hand, im still unconvinced that towa is not, in fact, a male playing on female clothing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53912411
old /#/ died when /hlg/ and the rest of the /jp/ schizos decided to make this thread their home

[Anonymous No.]

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *

>44,079: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>42,049: Shiina (Nijisanji)
>35,936: Gura (Hololive)
>35,554: Lize (Nijisanji)
>35,518: Lauren (Nijisanji)
>35,350: Tsukasa Tenkai (Indie)
>30,300: Ollie (Hololive)
>26,595: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>26,142: Suisei (Hololive)
>19,138: Botan (Hololive)
>14,657: Miko (Hololive)
>13,866: Toru (Nijisanji)
>13,642: Kiara (Hololive)
>13,095: Mimi (VSPO)
>12,813: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>12,335: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>12,195: Okayu (Hololive)
>12,143: Koyori (Hololive)
>11,314: HAL (Neo-Porte)
>11,224: Towa (Hololive)
>11,217: Lui (Hololive)
>11,174: Subaru (Hololive)
>11,118: Watame (Hololive)
>11,087: AZKi (Hololive)
>10,987: Hayato (Nijisanji)
>10,834: Chloe (Hololive)
>10,764: Hal (Neo-Porte)
>10,458: Ibrahim (Nijisanji)
>10,359: Met (VSPO)
>10,303: Ars (Nijisanji)
>10,261: Hinano (VSPO)

[Anonymous No.]

>>53912598
200+ posts in and you're the first one to mention her.

[Anonymous No.]

ENs have been getting more Hologras lately.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53912408
Elaborate then

[Anonymous No.]

>>53912657
Towa is easily one of the most female and feminine members in hololive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53912616
Monkey paw, the homos will graduate and redebut straight as en3, sharing more resources and having more collabs and so on

[Anonymous No.]

>>53912651
Koshien streams are legitimate and unbugged. Why must you cope so?

[Anonymous No.]

Why did he give up?

[Anonymous No.]

>>53912666
>JULY 2023 GOLDS
1) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 209,736 - Koshien Draft
2) Subaru (Hololive) - 75,828 - Birthday Totsumachi
3) Leos (Nijisanji) - 69,970 - Koshien Practice
4) Maimoto (Nijisanji) - 49,699 - Koshien Recap
5) Shiina (Nijisanji) - 116,661 - Koshien Practice
6) Lize (Nijisanji) - 111,373 - Koshien Practice
7) Ibrahim (Nijisanji) - 82,832 - Koshien Practice
8) Shiina (Nijisanji) - 82,413 - Koshien Practice
9) Kaede (Nijisanji) - 82,483 - Koshien Practice
10) Yashiro (Nijisanji) - 83,096 - Koshien Practice
11) Leos (Nijisanji) - 56,271 - Koshien Practice
12) Shiina (Nijisanji) - 70,042 - Koshien Practice
13) Yashiro (Nijisanji) - 55,388 - Koshien Practice
14) Nui (Nijisanji) - 48,877 - Koshien Practice
15) Toya (Nijisanji) - 99,190 - Koshien Practice
16) Pekora (Hololive) - 149,758 - 24 Hour Marathon
17) Pekora (Hololive) - 138,482 - 24 Hour Marathon
18) Yashiro (Nijisanji) - 79,645 - Koshien Practice
19) Towa (Hololive) - 63,951 - Outfit Reveal
20) Pekora (Hololive) - 56,262 - Spending Challenge
21) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 44,079 - GTA

>PER COMPANY
16x: Nijisanji
5x: Hololive

>PER STREAMER
3x: Pekora, Shiina, Yashiro
2x: Leos
1x: Ibrahim, Kaede, Kuzuha, Lize, Maimoto, Nijisanji, Nui, Subaru, Towa, Toya

>2023 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
144x: Hololive
42x: Nijisanji
7x: Indie
5x: VSPO
4x: Neo Porte

>PER STREAMER
50x: Pekora
18x: Miko
15x: Marine
8x: Subaru
7x: Toya
5x: Suisei
4x: Aqua, Kuzuha, Hal, Towa, Yashiro
3x: Chiroru, Hololive, Iroha, Mio, Nijisanji, Okayu, Koyori, Shiina
2x: Aki, Fubuki, Hinano, Korone, Lamy, Leos, Lui, Nerumero, Salome, Watame
1x: Air, Ayame, Beni, Chloe, Choco, Flare, Fuwa, Gaku, Gura, Gundou, Hibari, Himawari, Ibrahim, Ina, Kaede, Kanata, Kanato, Kiara, Laplus, Lize, Maimoto, Mel, Mito, Mori, Nose, Nozomi, Nui, Polka, Ponto, Qpi, Roco, Ryushen, Shion, Tsukasa, Ui

[Anonymous No.]

>>53912652
casuals =/= tourists, get that in your head

[Anonymous No.]

>>53912598
I searched the thread and there's literally zero mention of her before this

[Anonymous No.]

>>53912444
I figure the former would be easier. if you could do the latter it would also do the job I believe, better even

[Anonymous No.]

>>53912689
Were you even following the conversation?

[Anonymous No.]

>>53912708
Remember this day as the day Nijisanji is once again king.

[Anonymous No.]

*FINAL EN TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN*

>7/21 DAILY TALLY
35,936: Gura (Hololive)
13,642: Kiara (Hololive)
6,612: Ina (Hololive)
6,126: Luca (Nijisanji)
5,626: Kronii (Hololive)


>EN GOLDS FOR JULY 2023
1) Vesper (Holostars) - 21,225 - Redesign Reveal
2) Vezalius (Nijisanji) - 9,207 - Karaoke
3) Hololive English (Hololive) - 32,795 - Connect the World
4) Mumei (Hololive) - 10,693 - Zatsudan
5) Gura (Hololive) - 20,073 - Zatsudan (w/ Amelia)
6) Kiara (Hololive) - 9,751 - Birthday Stream
7) Nina (Nijisanji) - 33,766 - Graduation Stream
8) Nina (Nijisanji) - 50,496 - Graduation Part 2
9) Gura (Hololive) - 14,408 - Peppa Pig
10) Mori (Hololive) - 17,666 - Myth Collab
11) IRyS (Hololive) - 14,877 - Anniversary Karaoke
12) Kronii (Hololive) - 7,532 - Donkey Kong Country
13) Pomu (Nijisanji) - 13,161 - Birthday Stream
14) Mumei (Hololive) - 23.377 - CouncilRyS Collab
15) Ren (Nijisanji) - 8,451 - Unarchived Karaoke Rebroadcast
16) Kronii (Hololive) - 12,036 - Unarchived Karaoke
17) Baelz (Hololive) - 7,575 - Unarchived Karaoke
18) Gura (Hololive) - 15,922 - Pizza Tower
19) Gura (Hololive) - 15,568 - Papa's Freezaria
20) Ina (Hololive) - 5,235 - Final Fantasy XVI
21) Gura (Hololive) - 35,936 - Unarchived Karaoke

>PER COMPANY
15x: Hololive
5x: Nijisanji
1x: Holostars

>PER STREAMER
5x: Gura
2x: Kronii, Mumei, Nina
1x: Baelz, Hololive English, Ina, IRyS, Kiara, Mori, Pomu, Ren, Vesper, Vezalius

>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
25p: Gura
15p: Baelz
13p: Ina, IRyS, Kronii, Mumei
11p: Fauna, Mori, Nina
9p: Kiara
8p: Pomu
7p: Luca
5p: Hololive English, Ren, Vesper, Vezalius
4p: Amelia, Shu
3p: Fulgur, Sonny
1p: Millie, Mysta

[Anonymous No.]

>>53912687
monkeypaws need to be believable to be funny

[Anonymous No.]

>>53912666
gura > suisei, miko, subaru, watame

[Anonymous No.]

>>53912675
>>53912729
Sorry I don't even mentioned the name itself. I guess most of her fanbase went to sleep at this time, but let's be honest there were spams of her even when she is not streaming all the time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53912778
>2023 EN GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
148x: Hololive
50x: Nijisanji
3x: Holostars
1x: Idol

>PER STREAMER
21x: Fauna
20x: Mori
17x: Gura
15x: IRyS, Mumei
13x: Baelz, Ina, Kronii
10x: Amelia
9x: Kiara, Vox
5x: Mysta
4x: Pomu, Selen, Shu
3x: Nina, Ren
2x: Alban, Finana, Hololive English, Ike, Luca, Yu
1x: Enna, Elira, Flayon, Fulgur, Luxiem, Millie, Regis, Roca, Rosemi, Sonny, Vesper, Vezalius

>2023 POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
211p: Fauna
152p: Ina
150p: Mori
137p: IRyS
127p: Mumei
121p: Baelz
101p: Kronii
85p: Gura
83p: Amelia
82p: Kiara
74p: Vox
57p: Mysta
54p: Luca
37p: Shu
31p: Selen
25p: Pomu
24p: Nina
19p: Ike
16p: Ren
15p: Enna
14p: Fulgur, Sonny, Uki
13p: Finana
11p: Axel
10p: Alban, Elira, Hololive English, Millie, Yu
9p: Vesper
7p: Regis
6p: Rosemi, Vezalius
5p: Flayon, Luxiem, Roca
4p: Magni, Vantacrow
3p: Bettel, Hakka, Kotoka, Poko
1p: Maria, Meloco, Shinri, Pippa

[Anonymous No.]

>>53912652
These are some dedicated tourists to be camping her Twitter feed/Holodex every single day to find out if she's doing a karaoke or not since she doesn't do schedules anymore.

[Anonymous No.]

Baseball upsets the Holokek

[Anonymous No.]

>>53912591
trying too hard

[Anonymous No.]

>>53912702
china left him

[Anonymous No.]

>>53912525
I'm just surprised about ASU being that high
I do know that a lot of her listeners on Spotify are from Taiwan though

[Anonymous No.]

>>53911067
The thing with Gura is, her numbers are so large compared to the others that she can single-handedly hard-carry the branch to a +1000 ccv average just streaming like 3 days a week for a month. The big problem is when we encounter a situation like yesterday where she basically killed anyone that streamed over her since that would lead to the average going down.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53912846
Read the room

[Anonymous No.]

>>53912681
Anon these are just Hologra to shill HoloSummer units

[Anonymous No.]

>>53912598
They aren’t actually her fans they’re just here to deflect from homos and troll

[Anonymous No.]

>>53912842
Gundou...

[Anonymous No.]

>>53912778
>20) Ina (Hololive) - 5,235 - Final Fantasy XVI
kek really? how sad

[Anonymous No.]

>>53912666
>15-11
even with all the portuguese and sucking ecelebs cocks niji still fails to take a single day in 10k streams, it is kinda pathetic even

[Anonymous No.]

>>53912685
he's obviously doing the 'wink wink nudge nudge bots' anon

[Anonymous No.]

If FGO announce a mini concert for Pekora at FGO Fes 2023 I am going to have an aneurysm because she would legit be in more concerts than most Holo this year despite not being anywhere near the best performer of the company, like what the fuck

[Anonymous No.]

Homokeks status?

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>>53912907
Holocope

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>>53912928
popularity > talent

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>>53912825
Nah its people checking their youtube sub box and seeing karaoke instead of kusoge stream and clicking on

[Anonymous No.]

>>53912928
Why are you seething at an event that will never happen? Schizo much?

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>>53912525
im sure studying this would help us understand how bugs perceive sounds

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>>53912639
>but that doesn't mean they can't have both cakes and eat them too
That means exactly it. I don't think even a single company in the whole world managed this one simple trick
>SCIENTISTS HATE HIM!
trying to cater, at the same time, to their captive audience and to a completely foreign audience.

Actually, there is a counterexample, a branch of a vtuber company trying EXACTLY that
>Cover, the strategy for their english speaking branch starting in July 2022, trying to court a completely different audience of their captive one
I'll assume they're smart and learned from that mistake and I don't mean just debuting male vtubers but the whole "tourist laden" strategy they employed
>debuting male vtubers
>shoving them front and center in front of the existing captive audience
>trying to branch out and court the Twitch audience with a "Twitch takeover"
>trying to branch out and court the TikTok audience by creating channels / pages / whatever they're calling for each of the girls (and also the boys?) and having them make content there
>trying to court the "unity" audience and green lighting collabs with nijis, vshojo, twitch indies and twitch fleshstreamers

They tried EVERYTHING and failed miserably while failing to do the one thing that their existing audience expected
>debuting five more girls
The cemetery is filled with companies neglecting their core audience to got for the promise of a bigger foreign audience. That's not Hololive business model.

They're at one of the highest points of their recorded history and for a simple reason
>cute girls in bikinis
>cute girls at the stage, singing and dancing
>cute girls getting new clothes
>cute girls being cute

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>>53912952
Shitposting to hide the pain

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>>53912952
I hope someone gives an interview about managing holoEN some day. I really want to know what actually happened behind the scenes last year.

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>>53912822
I hate to break it to you, but you're half the reason they keep showing up, because you seethe randomly about them and then people (some of them probably not even saplings) will post more about her to trigger you.
As for the guy who spams the images, it's literally just one or two guys I'm pretty sure, easy to ignore. He'll probably show up later. Don't give him any attention, not even in passing. Hopefully he'll get bored eventually just like the Ironmouse spammer and everyone else before him who came and left.

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>>53912842
oh that reminds me, do baseball fans not like baseball anymore? why dont a collab with actual pro teams get way less viewers than powerpro? are these ojisans actually fans of konami instead of the sport now? this thread lied to me..

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>>53912651
Didn’t know Kanaes was a bug but I stopped at 18 just checking a few days

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>>53913048
NTA the CL collab last year did better on the reveal stream
PL just has less fans

[Anonymous No.]

Can we just go back to tempus doomposting?
It's not like Hololive is ruined now because Cover doesn't have the perfect strategy.

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>>53911414
You seem to think that Hololive needs to compete with Niji. Cover is way too busy playing a different ballgame to even begin considering competing with others.

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>>53912825
It's just the YouTube sub box, they see the karaoke frame and pile in because it's fucking Gura karaoke and you don't want to miss it. Most of those guys probably don't know Holodex exists

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>>53913048
What do you mean anon? WE LOVE BASEBALL

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>>53913048
It was a sponsored stream and basically 45 min of advertisment. Except for Holobros people usually don't like to watch advertisements.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53912099
>speaks Japanese
>god tier vsinger
She's the perfect candidate for EN3, yagoo...

[Anonymous No.]

>>53912666
>Exact same Z length 4 hours apart
Odd, suspicious even.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53912666
>Gura's ONCE A YEAR karaoke
>not even a silver
Chumbuds...

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>>53912639
NTA, but JP being at all time highs and their 3Dlives having inclined year after year seems to show how they're approaching things is working. Not every tourist is going to be valuable to them, nor is every tourist the same. They want tourists, sure, but they also want ones that will go to their day to day streams and those 3Dlives. They've also diversified. The 2nd protolive was something that could have been gold, but they were more interested in pushing people onto the HoloEarth platform because of what that means for the company.

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>>53912972
That’s not a tourist then

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>>53912863
Both mori and kronii could have been power house one step below gura had they not gone full retard and filter all the tourist

[Anonymous No.]

>>53913189
Cope, she mogged 3 jp first army.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53913128
All Koshien streams are literally ads

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>>53912987
problem is they're going for an audience who take pride in touching grass, only watching a few clips, and being a keyboard warrior against evil idol culture. their interest in vtubers is very superficial to begin with.

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>>53913128
the whole koshien is an advertisement for konami's powerpro, why do you think they hire the portuguese

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>>53913207
NTA, what would you call that viewer and what makes them different from a tourist?

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>>53913008
>Omega and his trannies try to overtake EN branch
>some girls fight against them, some kneel, others join them
>Gura snitches Omega to JP management
>Omega and half of his trannies get fired

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>>53912952
is this why sister are shitting up the thread?

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>>53912987
The problem is not that they're focusing on core viewers and abandoning tourists this month, it's because they're doing both (which I think is perfectly reasonable) but is completely failing on the tourists side

>highest point
median averages is just one metric anon, subscribers growth for example has been a slump for the last few months. Thankfully Marine is showing results with her tiktok/shorts.

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>>53912987
>trying to branch out and court the TikTok audience by creating channels / pages / whatever they're calling for each of the girls (and also the boys?) and having them make content there
NTA, but I think doing shorts for TikTok and Youtube is still a good idea. It worked out well for Aqua, Chloe and Marine. I mostly agree with the rest of it though.

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>>53913189
>once a year baseball
>once a year King leeching off Daruma

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>>53911455
Not really. Non-karaoke streams are archived and more casual chumbuds just watch the VODs, which are all very beefy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53913303
>once a year King leeching
More like 20th time this year

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>>53910688
This copium graph was debunked yesterday, anon >>53793767

The reason that JP isn't going to shit together with NijiJP is because of Aqua's return, pulling 40–60k per stream, but she's already at the 20k line. Which caused them to recline again, but were saved by recent Pekora sus graphs.
>QRD?
Niji collabs and male collabs killing JP same way they killed Kronii, driving away true fans and replacing them with zoomers, who go after the newest thing. HoloJP massive recline is inevitable at this point, but at least they will understand how NijiEN, NijiJP, Kronii, Ame, Mori and all ID(minus Kaela) have fallen.

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>>53913189
>Mogged literally all of HoloJP
This is the HoloJP that has been losing golds to Koshien all month, if they can't do it why does Gura have to do it?

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>>53913243
they might be low value, but even them has their uses.
these people only care about the next popular things and with that they could spread holo content to other people who consume that other popular things too.

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>>53912952
lol homos are dead

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>>53913269
God bless those girls

[Anonymous No.]

>>53913013
If you check the archive with uuu2, they are literally squatting here since forever so what does that have to do with me?

[Anonymous No.]

>>53913362
Have you ever considered killing yourself?

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Hololive 3.0's story is a funny one
>They announce it at the end of holofes 2022
>Several months pass
>They do a relay of gen 1
>Several months pass, and Gen 1 barely uses it because they only have them on their default outfits
>Hololive Twitter suddenly announces Subaru's 3.0 is getting delayed even though it was never announced to be happening
>Several months pass
>Laplus suddenly showcases a "l2d update" on her 1M celebration stream, it's a 3.0 but without ever saying it's a 3.0
>Marine now announces she's getting a 3.0 (that she will never use because she rarely uses her fault outfit anymore)
What was the point of 3.0, really?

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>>53912686
>Gura, choco, luna, lamy, matsuri, flare, lui,
These are super girly and feminine holo members. Even if 2 are whores

[Anonymous No.]

>>53913153
>god tier vsinger
Fix your ears, anon.

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>debunked

[Anonymous No.]

The mindshare of the 3 biggest vtuber companies...
>Where is Niji??
Exactly

[Anonymous No.]

Why is Mumei brown?

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>>53913048
>7/19
GTA VCR already took all the tourists mindshares anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>53913189
>>53913220
>>53913376
>t. nijifaggots

[Anonymous No.]

>>53913463
you can't just ask why someone is brown

[Anonymous No.]

>>53913422
3.0 are mostly minor updates to the L2Ds

[Anonymous No.]

>>53913458
give me full picture i bet i can find a portugal flag somewhere in there

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>>53913362
Qrd of peko sus graph?

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>>53906540
> How many of you were supportive of them when they were first debuted?
90% of this thread's regulars were either neutral or semi-supportive of them for about a month after their debuts. Anyone saying otherwise is a newfag or a troll.
They had positive PR here mainly for these reasons -
> iLuna/nijikeks
iLuna had just debuted with the highest debut numbers ever and were naturally compared to what was "Hololive"'s latest offering. They quickly crashed down, so the homos' decent numbers were a convenient tool to shitpost against nijikeks, especially as they spammed a lot of shit against the homos early on when their designs were revealed.
> goodwill carried over by homoJP
Some JP homos were considered "bros" and it was thought that EN homos would follow their footsteps, back when people thought Shinove and JP homo management were in charge of Tempus. The early tweets from the homos were also non-horny and "brotuber"-ish, a refreshing change from all the recent niji pre-debut lewdposting and LGHDTV posturing, so anons beleb'd in them for a while.
> generic memery
The simple spam of "mag" edits delivered HUGE amounts of seethes from nijisanji fans, as regulars just shitposted for the fun of it. Vesper's whole "relatable" shtick was also rather popular before he showed his true "inconsiderate asshole" colors.
Similar to "Early Mumei" posting (https://streamable.com/meqd3h)), magging was a fun meme while it lasted, and most of the people posting it knew things would change after debut, but of course some held on to hope.
People knew that some of the girls might collab with them (Mori, Bae etc. were known quantities), and didn't expect Ame and Kronii to join in (which tipped the balance dangerously to one side after Ina did a song collab with them).

As slowly as their reputation was built, it was also torn down one block at a time -
> Reducing their collab ban due to "fan demand". This received a confused yet lukewarm reception at the time, but with hindsight it's used as a "beginning of the end" step.
> Kronii collab (this was mainly Kronii's fault, but it detached the EN homos' presence away from the goodwill acquired by the consideration given to holos by the JP homos).
> Blue fag taking credit for breaking the "Niji collab" barrier despite Kiara having been the one to work the hardest at it.
> Blue fag going "support the cause" and picking fistfights with viewers.
> Axel's extremely annoying personality and shipping fever which killed both Zeta and Nodoka's presence in the EOP sphere (and Hololive in general).
> Vesper becoming the first EN talent to get suspended. Homo JP never had a single suspension throughout their 3 year long lifespan.
> Vesper menhera and blatant "non unity" collabs during the Japan arc (boys : anxiety; girls : yabbadabbadooo).
And well, we all know the breaking point -
> Tempus 2 debuts instead of EN3
At this point, the homos' reputation is THOROUGHLY in the toilet. But they just kept going -
> Vesper continues to pick fights with viewers, shitposts about collabing with your oshi, raids Kiara causing drama.
> None of the homos EVER acknowledge the homobeggar problem or remind their audience to respect the rules of other streamers and not to bring them up in other streams.
> Homobeggars in general invading YT chat, YT comments, reddit comments and several other girls' spaces, probably the biggest trigger for homo hate after the breaking point.
> Tempoop faggot homobegging to be included in Holotori despite getting ignored by Kaela, encouraging further begging.
> Merging of Holopro and HoloEN accounts, which in hindsight didn't do much damage, but at the time caused drama galore.
> Two of the "biggest" homos getting a complete base remodel for themselves after not even a one year career, blatant favoritism.
And of course, the latest "stoppage" yab.
Those that supported them initially would naturally have the most vehement interest in seeing them fall, since their "support" is what led to this situation in the first placee.
It's like atonement for your original sins.

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>>53913048
GTA VCR is the new meta
Koshien will recapture those numbers by tournament play, they could still get gold periodically beforehand

[Anonymous No.]

>>53910736
MOST

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>>53911496
Wait, Hololive finally got a topic? neat

[Anonymous No.]

>>53913153
>>>speaks Japanese
holy mother of debuffs

[Anonymous No.]

>>53913468
>t. seething ENtard

[Anonymous No.]

>>53913285
most likely

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>>53913205
>3Dlives having inclined year after year
that's one of the issue anon, it doesn't happen anymore since a few months ago. most likely due to reclining tourists.
Q1 for holos had both high tourists and high core viewers, this last few month the former is reclining

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>>53913463
shes not brown shes just dirty

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>>53912730
>I figure the former would be easier.
Both are equally easy.

Here it goes
>30 DAYS TRUE AVERAGE, PER BRANCH, HOLOLIVE vs. NIJISANJI, TOP 10 STREAMS OF THE DAY ONLY

Here is, for the surprise of none
>it does not change the trend for Hololive at all
Still ahead of last year RUST arc peak, still at the third highest point of the range in question.

People are trying their hardest to find a metric where Hololive is underperforming but they are not.
They are actually at one of the highest points in their recorded history and the only reason people are bold enough to pretend they're not is because Koshien is ongoing.

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>>53913402
Pretty sure that's the guy who constantly tries to shill /#/ as /uuu2/ in global despite no one asking and everyone shitting on him for it. Anyway I don't want to talk about a schizo so I'll drop this convo here.

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>>53912708
It's like Holos taking the chill pill for the whole July, make sense the next month is gonna be hellish with ton of events. Personally I think Cover should do something with their side brands while JP are busy to counter with Niji's biggest annual event.

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>>53913112
But they unironically have to compete with them because objectively, financially, and numerically, they are lower than them on all aspects of longterm success.
>>53913220
Here's where it gets interesting. With HoloJP's notable decline, can EN reclaim its old numbers it had 3 years ago? We'll see. NijiEN hasn't been doing well. Could they come back?

[Anonymous No.]

>>53913463
scat fetish

[Anonymous No.]

Thread devolved again. Who do we blame again?

[Anonymous No.]

oh hes samefagging now, reminds me of >>53579954

[Anonymous No.]

>>53912975
I just don't understand the decision of shoving Pekora into so many concert is all. Like she have nothing to gain from them, it never boost her, so why bother?

[Anonymous No.]

>>53913458
Homos flag is next btw

[Anonymous No.]

>>53913524
this is why you're supposed to haze newcomers so they don't become troublemakers, tempiss got too uppity after seeing this support.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53913153
Unrelatedly, past hires indicate we should expect a JP speaking, JP hour streaming extrovert dancer type for EN3. Any list for those?

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Why are nijikeks like this? They get some temporary buff (koshien, Salome debut numbers, etc) and act like this is the new normal and Hololive is finished, only for those numbers to evaporate next month and holos continue to dominate the tally for the rest of the year.
Honestly, it's not even worth arguing with these retards.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53910846
YouTube already did that earlier this week.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53913013
Nta but you’re wrong the iron mouse poster got relentlessly shit on and I remember seeing his shit get deleted. And they were posting a a thread or two ago I remember because someone posted that their janny was awake

[Anonymous No.]

>>53913601
>EN reclaim
No. Gura is not entire EN

[Anonymous No.]

>>53913620
Where the fuck did it mention a concert?

[Anonymous No.]

>>53913635
>JP hour streaming
>Council

[Anonymous No.]

>>53913579
>people
its literally one schizo anon, try not to waste your whole day on him

[Anonymous No.]

>>53913601
>all aspects of longterm success.
such as?

[Anonymous No.]

>>53913623
>bigger mindshare than whole of Niji and Vshojo

[Anonymous No.]

>>53913293
>subscribers growth for example has been a slump for the last few months
Subscriber growth is in a slump for a full year or two now.
But if you pay close attention to the post you replied to, you'll notice that Hololive whole strategy is to cater to the EXISTING audience, meaning subscribers grow is a nice to have but not critical.
If Hololive wanted subscriber growth they could have debuted twenty more girls and they would have some 12M extra subs right now (600k * 20)

[Anonymous No.]

>>53913635
Sana's sister with two dogs and a cat on life support

[Anonymous No.]

>>53909042
curious coincidence...
what time btw?

[Anonymous No.]

>>53913623
Eh, that is to be expected. Funny that nijifags decided to shill homos instead of Niji, and even then they got mogged by Neurofags.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53913673
>If Hololive wanted subscriber growth
that's on their IR materials anon, why they're not debuting 20 girls for the past year to achieve this instead you'd have to ask them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53913672
nijikeks are retarded >>53911023 pls understand

[Anonymous No.]

>>53910918
Goddamn I can't wait for the e-celeb/homo beggars to bring up VCR GTA the next time miko does a GTA karaoke.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53913748
id4 is close, en3 could be as well, jp7 we have no clue

[Anonymous No.]

>>53911336
>30-day average of peak CCV across an entire company
>""""""Z""""""
Shitpost-chama....

[Anonymous No.]

>>53913748
>that's on their IR materials anon,
For bragging rights only, by virtue of having the most subscribed vtuber in each market.
Had Salome passed Marine and Pomu (kek) passed Gura and Hana Macchia passed Kobo they would bury it seventeen levels deep into some basement (like Nijisanji does).
The whole purpose of bragging about numbers is doing so with the numbers you can't possibly be challenged, hence Nijisanji adding their Koshien CCV and (unironically) their number of livers in their IR

[Anonymous No.]

>>53913601
YES, EN IS BACK BABY

[Anonymous No.]

>>53913579
You continue to reply to a schizo.

[Anonymous No.]

STOP REPLYING TO RETARDED BAIT

[Anonymous No.]

>>53911023
lol
lmao
>nijibabies have to make alliances to protect their logo, and even then they fail
>hologods make their logo, exit stag left, and nobody dares touch it

[Anonymous No.]

>>53913874
Putting these charts out there benefits the thread and doesn't take anything from it

[Anonymous No.]

>>53913646
Yeah that fag's still here. Just last night he was trying to pass off some 30k fleshie stream as a shitrat stream

[Anonymous No.]

>>53913748
i'm starting to think they have some retarded technical bottleneck like they can't have more than 50 accounts for their enterprise version of discord client or something.
ITS BEEN FUCKING 2 YEARS JESUS CHRIST

[Anonymous No.]

>>53913642
these threads have always been 99.9% holofaggots and for once there is something fresh to shitpost about which as a bonus will open up for grudgeposting next month
you are arguing with yourselves

[Anonymous No.]

>>53913566
Yes it does, anon. Stop wasting your time shitposting in this thread. You're just going to get called a retard by anyone that follows numbers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53913266
You’d call them a fan and a tourist would be Kiara getting 10k on a game stream

[Anonymous No.]

>>53913856
>their number of livers in their IR
No they did not do that directly, they did it through flexing watchhour of the company

[Anonymous No.]

>>53913673
>>53913748
>>53913856
>peek into /#/ to try to understand why the monkeys can't stay in their cage
>see how ESL-chamas suffer when forced to be around each other

[Anonymous No.]

>>53913902
So long as you're aware he's retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53913938
pretty sure they do have at least one graph about ever rising number of organs

[Anonymous No.]

>>53906540
I'm a hater in the sense that I shit on them whenever the topic comes up.
I did check them out at the start and even fell for the "brotuber" meme a bit. After the first cross-gender collabs where you immediately had flirting scandals I pretty much checked out instantly. Things only got worse from there, Vesper turned out to be a gigantic piece of shit, sex pest and pathological liar and his entire "comfy" shtick was a LARP. Altare had his troon moment. Magni supposedly fujobaits way too much which is because he's an actual faggot apparently. Basically a shitshow.

That said I think the blatant favoritism from Cover, compounded with the homobegging, is actually what breeds the most hatred. It'd be easy to just forget about them but Yacuck makes sure to keep rubbing them in our face.
I would not be surprised if this Vesper/Magni bullshit is a stealth suspension that they refuse to publicly name to "protect Tempiss reputation". That seems like exactly the kind of thing these cocksuckers would do. Pay for some more of their songs while you're at it, you pieces of shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53913601
>>53910734

[Anonymous No.]

>>53912778
Ina playing FFXVI and Mori playing some random game, NijiEN will get cripple gold today.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53913938
>No they did not do that directly
kek, they did, and the added something similar to
>and here is our fixed cost not dependant of the number of livers
>meaning we can continue adding them without growing the cost too much

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>>53913582
NTA but earliest mentioned was in numbers in November. No mention in global from a glance. You simply can't fool anyone by trying to be "reasonable". Not to mentioned they (or just 1 or 2 people) are spamming non-stop here for almost a year so whether he was here or not they will still be here. He is just pointing out the problem.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53913856
and yet you still have to include that chart for the next quarter reports.
If numbers are grim you'd get questions from shareholders, if you remove them entirely you'd get even harder questions.

[Anonymous No.]

numbers

[Anonymous No.]

>>53913524
>> None of the homos EVER acknowledge the homobeggar problem or remind their audience to respect the rules of other streamers and not to bring them up in other streams
Isn't it better for them to not address it at all? I don't remember any right moment they can talk about this without inciting new drama.

[Anonymous No.]

Holy shit this thread is filled with walls of text. What the hell I'm not reading all this shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53913642
It's because you do argue with them. They'll just pop back up as Ironmouse fans next subathon or Luxiem fans if they have a big stream or "35p" if Miko gets higher than Pekora on a given day ect. As long as you interact with them, they win.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53913935
Is it really wrong to say karaoke is a huge tourist draw though? Gura's singing is good enough to attract nonfans, just like Kiara getting a 10k game stream would indicate tons of people who are just there for the game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53913958
This is the most heavily raided thread on /vt/. We all have to deal with ESL catalog faggots.

[Anonymous No.]

Thread quality declined after May, why is that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>53913659
I admit I didn't watch Bae before Bae, maybe you can enlighten me

[Anonymous No.]

>>53913524
Lying schizo doesn’t even know their collab ban ended early and iluna’s single largest debut was a Z

[Anonymous No.]

>>53914074
Zoomer chama.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53914054
>He is just pointing out the problem.
You mean you. You are "just pointing out the problem".

[Anonymous No.]

Count the rpm, /#/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53914066
>veteran takodachi reminiscing about the glory days, year 2065

[Anonymous No.]

>>53914061
>If numbers are grim you'd get questions from shareholders, if you remove them entirely you'd get even harder questions.
For as long as they keep Gura, Marine and Kobo as the highest subbed chuubas in their respective markets they'll continue including them regardless of minute variation of their numbers

[Anonymous No.]

>>53914066
Based oji-san.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53914066
>https://youtu.be/eN6g0V1EOIE
Go, old man!

[Anonymous No.]

>>53914070
The JPs do it from time to time, why are the ENstars exempt from tardwrangling their audience?

[Anonymous No.]

>>53914110
If you want to interpret it that way, sure. By the way you are carrying water for the saplings, I too can call you cuckling and call it a day if I am lazy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53914054
Earliest mention was here but I was posting out that it's probably the same guy who also tries to spread the /uuu2/ narrative outside this thread (I've seen him in global trying to push "saplings should go to /#/ instead of /hlgg/) so I doubt he's doing it in good faith

[Anonymous No.]

Are you ready for another 12k Pekora KH stream?

[Anonymous No.]

>>53914202
link

[Anonymous No.]

>>53913362
Couldn't have said it any better than this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53914029
I think Bad End Night was their biggest PR blunder. It created the whole image of “forced integration” and Holostars favoritism, involved a bunch of girls everyone thought were safe and pissed off their fans, and emboldened homobeggars to shit everywhere because the company was on their side. Not hiring Axel might have actually saved the branch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53914066
Isn't this the madlad that did that meme piano song on violin?

[Anonymous No.]

>>53913579
That’s a lie CCVID is the top, so the current peak is only 4th and why do people here ignore the margin for error

[Anonymous No.]

>>53914154

[Anonymous No.]

I'm a HoloEN fag and I've lately been more hooked on NijiJP. Anyone else?
See>>53913362

[Anonymous No.]

>>53914173
>By the way you are carrying water for the saplings
What? Are you insane? Take your meds, retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>53914143
so not for long then?

[Anonymous No.]

>>53914232
Which situation is worse, getting 12k on a debuff game during the afternoon, or getting 15k on a buffed game during the JP primetime?

[Anonymous No.]

>>53914278
He will do anything on violin

[Anonymous No.]

>>53906540
>be me
>annoyed that they announced Tempiss instead of EN3
>still give them a chance, still have faith in Cover's scouting team
>they are pure dogshit
>1 month in the whole collab arc drama starts
>Tempiss is everywhere, collabing with half the branch, getting mentioned nonstop and HoloEN is looking like fucking NijiEN
>try to argue my reasons for not liking it, just a disappointed customer seeing a product he loves getting changed and becoming like the competition
>get called a schizo incel loser chudcel by hordes of Twitter troons
I'll keep hating on those fagcucks until they all graduate

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>>53914263
>not hiring Axel
theres not a single good hire in tempus. Sexpest, fujofaggot, troon and retarded axel.

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>Miko finished P4G with a 15k peak
What happened? didn't Nui get 22k+?

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Now for the real question: How much of the Tempiss "problem" would disappear if Vespiss and Fagni got fired?

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>>53914328
>getting mentioned nonstop and HoloEN is looking like fucking NijiEN
I'll take shit that never happened for 1000

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>>53914363
more or less 25%

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>>53914328
not gonna lie, gura irys and fauna standing their ground was the only reason i didnt completely give up

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>>53914328
>still give them a chance
There is the problem. You should never give them a chance, like me. I never gave them a chance, which is why I am not as angry as you right now.

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>>53914363
The problem will never go away.

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So this is how HoloJP dies? Not without a bang, but a whimper.

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>>53913524
tldr

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>>53913903
He’s still here I’m just saying he stopped spamming, pretty sure that wasn’t him though because now he settles for bragging about her being second. And the en schizo appeared next thread will be bad

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>>53914366
Feels good watching Gura!

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>>53914279
You're right, "only" fourth if you consider May and now two distinct periods. It doesn't change significantly the argument tho, which is
>Hololive is at one of the highest points in their recorded history
Also
>why do people here ignore the margin for error
These are not polls or statistics, it's the product of a specific measurement and any error is spread homogeneously, cancelling itself out with enough datapoints (which this has)

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>>53914278
Yeah, it is
https://youtu.be/xlWMlIATvPM

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>>53914363
None, people will seethe about them until they're all gone. Not to mention firing them won't make EN3 magically appear.

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>>53914292
I'm not seeing any nip passing Marine or any EN vtuber passing Gura.
Akemi from ID might pass Kobo tho, if shorts continue paying out.

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>>53914236
Just a quick search picking out random posts. He's an obnoxious faggot who crosslinks /#/ posts in global. Tons more I didn't link, this is just the recent stuff.
>>53206690
>>53326301
>>52589631
>>52589716
>>52474590

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>>53914363
Not enough to say that they were the problem

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>>53914424
anon dont ever assume that there are many, multiple schizos on this thread. Its all just fucking one, maybe two at best.

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>>53914417
two more weeks sister

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>>53914232
I am always ready to watch Pekora stream, and not like schizo can shitpost her number harder than they already are

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>>53914366
At some point we had Tempiss collabs every week or even twice per week. Talents kept interacting with them on Twitter and every chat was filled with beggars. Also nonstop drama about those faggots /here/.
And keep in mind that was around the time the few CGDCT talents were already burnt out and fucking off. I remember people speculating that the Piko Park collab was management mandated because the branch was having way too many mixed collabs.

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>>53914363
I think Mori would just start chasing Tempiss2 fags for collabs instead. I'm still convinced she is behind the majority of the cross-gender collab pushing.
You know beggars like Hakka would jump at the chance of collabing with girls.

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>>53914263
Bad End Night was Ina's idea anon.

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>>53913646
The reason he is not here is because he got mass reported for his tally. He was literally drove away by the mods.

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>>53914520
You realize embellishing what happened just makes you out to look retarded right

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Your graph is truly magnificent, Zultan!!!

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>>53914551
you're conflating two different things

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>>53913362
Go rope, note-kun.

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>>53914263
There’s also the fact that the twitter account is obviously biased.
>Axels cover hit 100k! Good job on this great accomplishment!
>What, the girls covers and original songs hit 1m? Who cares.

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>>53914564
inclining!

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>>53914557
He isn't, you guys were a fucking annoying pest in every holos chat around that time

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>>53914070
JP homos do this all the time, especially if - in their own chats - they see messages going "hey when's the next collab with <girl>?" which happens often enough in their chats.

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>>53913463
Hispanic parents

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>>53914612
Saying they were collabing literally every week was a flat out lie.

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>>53911756
Holo only?

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>>53914502
>>53326301 sound like >>53912872 and many other post saying "flaseflaggers".

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>>53914497
Isn't Gura listed as >world not >EN number 1 on their IR?

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>>53914410
-Gura will ignore them like they never existed and avoiding the drama as always.
Fauna will follow Gura
Irys is very JP idol culure to talk about them

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>>53914557
>>53914638
Oh right sorry you're a homobeggar. Forgot you cucks don't watch streams.
It wasn't for long but during the Worms Tournament arc we actually unironically had a homo collab every week or even more. Kronii had more fucking homo collabs than solo streams at some point during the period.

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>>53914694
and towa?

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>>53914089
It does have a tourist draw but it’s not primarily tourists. Like how many games if any can bring Kiara to 10k now? On the other hand Gura is pretty much getting 30k on every karaoke. Actually 6-10k tourist is pretty big her tourist are branchmates buff

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>>53911756
Remember when Pekora used to be ahead of her? Then Marine Treasure Box permanently propel her forward. Marine being smart and expand her content on different platform probably help too

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>>53914733
All of EN have collabed with Towa.

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>>53912778
> Did Gura Stream tally
Ahh dammit. How boring

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>>53914100

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>>53914694
>>53914410
Ina's mistake was being lazy and not arranging the song collab herself.
Kiara's mistake is being too open for discussion and not just ignoring the homobeggars in her chat

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>>53914758
It’s funny how something like treasure box would never be approved post-IPO according to herself.

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>>53914520
How many collabs total?
Gura-none
IRyS-none
Fauna-none
Ina-none
Mumei-none
Kiara-none
Bae-Zoomer/Boomer, Worms
Ame-Worms, Astronaut game?, Monopoly
Kronii-Monopoly, Wheel of Fortune, TTRPG, Therapy Stream
Mori-A lot, not gonna bother hunting them all down

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>>53914502
Is it the same guy? I know saplings kept hijacking hlg OPs and spam Fauna gibberish since forever. It was the reason the Towa_kills_Fauna.webm was made. And there are still saplings infestation there. I find it impossible to just be one guy spamming in #, hlgg and hlg at the same time.

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>>53912778
>Gura karaoke beat a Niji graduation stream...

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>>53914591
That actually made people mad because IRyS is forgotten enough as it is and you overlook her million for 100k

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>>53914765
towa should collab with me next then, its only fair

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>>53914808
Probably not. Though the guy hijacking the OPs in HLG is 100% selenfag who is also a notorious shitposter on this fucking board

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>>53914808
Nah, there's more than one guy for sure but I am sure that the one who hijacks /hlg/ OPs probably also comes to /vt/.

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>>53914363
depends on what lessons the rest of them learn from it.
JP homos took YEARS to claw back the initial trust that they lost - just for debuting in a girls-only company.
And hell, I'd argue even now they are seen as somewhat "outsiders".
> new holofan recruit Koji has not had a single homobeggar in his chat so far

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>>53914722
>watching kronii after her betrayal

well there's your problem.

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Here is for the RASPBERRY REPORT for today, with a complete ROUT by NijiEN and a civil war brewing in their ranks.
With the KING being mega raspberry debuffed by GTA (reaching heights of 1.04k) and Finana getting treacherously raided out of the raspberry zone it remained on the other boys to try to salvage a month that is becoming complicated already.
Shinri was setting a sub 700 mark but got raided out of competition and Flayon and Regis didn't have enough raspberry strength to contest the crown leaving
>THE QUEEN
and
>THE FORMER KING
and
>THE NASCENT TALENT
to battle in three way melee that was decided on the photo finish by mere 5 CCV!

Aster went for his tried and tested gay bait while the newest warrior (the bandage dude) casted his recently developed raspberry buff spell of reading supas.
Both were UNABLE to fight the ultimate weapon by Aia tho, which channeled ALL OF THE RASPBERRY BUFF of her branch onto herself, with a "drawing iLUNA" stream.

The month is getting too complicated for StarsEN with the KING self raspberry debuffing with GTA.
Can they turn the whole thing around and win their first month?
Will Aster find the raspberry strength to beat Aia again?
This and some other questions will be answered at tomorrow's RASPBERRY ROCAMBOLE!

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>>53914066
Based holo-ojisan

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>>53912350
Now koshien lasts for 2 months

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>>53914797
What do I say? Marine took a big gamble with it and it paid off
Marine becoming the number one of JP signify a pretty big change in the meta: Streaming is no longer the meta but being able to do literally anything else but streaming. Dunno if I am the only person who think this

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>>53914825
vsinger btw...

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>>53914569
how so?

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>>53914669
Gura is world #1 anon. Obi was deleted and the Spic will soon too if Yahoo news appears with that bullshit again. They aren't vbtubers

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>>53914620
>they see messages going "hey when's the next collab with <girl>?"
Well, that's what I meant with 'right moment'.
How often does this happen in any of Tempus chats? When was the last time it happened?

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>>53914511
See>>53913362

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>>53914915
king wtf....

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>>53914801
Ina had the Bad End Cover with Axel and welcomed the fags in the "HoloEN family". Even if she didn't collab she still added more gasoline to the fire.
Ame also had the random karaoke duet with blue homo and from the top of my head you forgot the DbD collab with Kronii.
Keep in mind we went from HoloEN having zero male interactions for months (save for Bae every 3 months) to this absolute shitshow.