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53645318 No.53645318 [Reply] [Original]

Is Anycolor suffering the same fate?

>> No.53645346

>>53645318
No. I really don't see how one could argue they are. They don't even have horrible PR in Japan.

>> No.53645496

NFT scams next for Anycolor, gotta exploit their fans like they exploit their livers.

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53645519

Hololive declining deflection, at least pick a better bait

>> No.53645523

>>53645318
nah
UPD8 is retarded
Anycolor is just greedy

>> No.53645569

>>53645496
wdym they exploit their livers? are they all alcoholics or something?

>> No.53645761

Define the fate.

>> No.53645765

It seems like the cycle of vtubing is:
>rising star debuts
>star enjoys stardom for a long while
>2nd rising star debuts with a gimmick that will eventually be common industry practice
>competition for a good while
>older star fucks itself with mismanagement
>utterly collapses
>new star enjoys utter dominance
>repeat
For the first saga of vtubing it was Kizuna Ai/upd8 vs Nijisanji with the streaming model, then for the 2nd it was Nijisanji vs Hololive with the idol model. Somehow though it's hard to see what will compete with Hololive, so it's more likely they will be the dead end of vtubing rather than another entity replacing them.

>> No.53645983

>>53645346
Yup. As much as I dislike nijisanji.
They are too big to die unwillingly and exploiting talents is the standard in Japan so that won't get bad PR. Compared to a lot of idol or talent agencies they are probably even on the better end of the spectrum. (If we are talking this model of agency where they are sort of inbetween a production company and an agency)

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53647793

>>53645318
Stop deflecting bronies

>> No.53648069

>>53645765
It feels a little more steady-state than that. The leap from static video content to livestreaming was much larger than what amounts to a genre difference between Niji and Holo.
The situation is starting to mature and fans are finding what they like and sticking to it. You'll have new comers appear that appeal in areas Niji and Holo aren't touching, but in some ways that's already Twitch; gaming vtubers who are actually serious and competitive stream there (almost entirely FPS).
The English side is just a completely different culture. English fans either subscribe to the idol model, the men of Nijisanji, or the Twitch model. I guess the one area that's somewhat untapped is political commentary, like the Hasan Piker of vtubers, but I don't know how much appetite weebs, even ironic ones, have for that sort of thing.

>> No.53650597

>>53645761
The fate of having an ugly logo that looks like a bunch of Pokemon

>> No.53652617

>>53645318
Many people do not know that Any Color used to do something like UPD8.

No wonder so many people have never heard of the Niji-sanji network.

>> No.53652635

>>53648069
>political vtuber
It might work, as long as the model is goofy and easily dressed up according to the topic in hand. VOMS's model comes to mind.
Chibi fucks talking about history or recent happenings seem fun.

>> No.53652882

I'll never forgive them for what they did to Oda Nobuhime.
Never forgive. Never forget!

>> No.53653494

>>53645569
that what 2% sanji call their talents.

>> No.53653861

>>53645765
That's not the cycle of vtubing, that's the cycle of corpos in every field.
New corpos have to take risks, so they bring something new to the table. If it works out, they become successful. Over time they either get complacent, conservative, stale and overtaken by fresher corpos, or run into the ground by greedy investors focusing on short-term profits. It happens everywhere.
That said, Holo and Niji are more or less the same age and the established stars before them were all individual vtubers instead of groups. It's a bit early to look for patterns here.

>> No.53654817

>>53652882
Shocked a lot of people forgot about this.
People wonder why she has depression and then you remember what the fuck the management did to her.

>> No.53655014

>>53645523
Sadly yeah. Upd8 are a black company and that ultimately led to their downfall.
Nijisanji is just too big in Japan and can't die unless a major yab happens. Like final yab levels of bad.
NijiEN is on the way out eventually but the death of NijiEN will make zero difference to JP.

>> No.53655150

>>53654817
>forgot about this.
I'll never forget! As long as I draw breath. We're so lucky to still have her

>> No.53655633

>>53654817
qrd?

>> No.53655753

>>53655633
Management pushed her to go beyond her confort zone, starting to act more whorish and stuff like that to get more views. That's the basic jist of it

>> No.53656195

>>53645318
>upd8
why can't people spell shit properley these days?

>> No.53656532

>>53655753
Goes beyond that honestly. Management took over her social media accounts, blocked collabs/covers, even had managers mic'd up during streams to tell her what to say/do at times. Basically used her as a puppet in the latter half of her career, with the threat of blacklisting her if she broke contract. Even gave her a middle finger on the way out by forcing her to announce her graduation on the same day as her friends 3D debut.

>> No.53658721

>>53645318
Nope.

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