/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

>There's still unicorns in the vtuber scene

[Anonymous No.]

>there's still homo watchers in the vtuber scene

[Anonymous No.]

>>53409306
70% of this board is unicorns/troons/Yurifags

[Anonymous No.]

>>53409306
Yeah, me

[Anonymous No.]

>>53409306
>There’s still faggots in the vtuber scene

[Anonymous No.]

>>53412789
>everyone who doesn’t like muh boiz is...

[Anonymous No.]

>>53409306
Unfortunately, unicornism is the kind of mental illness with only one cure

[Anonymous No.]

Can't believe I would reply seriously to a shitpost but yeah, you can be perfectly a normal socially functional human being to be an unicorn, not every unicornchad are incel loser fyi

[Anonymous No.]

>>53409306
go back to PULL you slag

[Anonymous No.]

>>53409676
You lost man, it used to belong to you and now shit's changed. Time to get a new hobby cause this ain't it no more chief.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53413315
Based purely on tangible metrics, that’s patently false.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53413315
>proceeds to never watch streams

[Anonymous No.]

>>53413315
how your fortress called r/holo?
while your busy /here/ shitposting, anons have already cleansed homo post in your turf
>are you sure your winning?

[Anonymous No.]

>>53413267
i'm an incel loser

[Anonymous No.]

>>53413824
>true incel's watch homos

[Anonymous No.]

>>53409306
>OPはENファン
>多分アニメ嫌いかな
>ミクで2023
わあ~キモいw

[Anonymous No.]

>>53412990
Come back again when all phase, idolen and kawaii collab with male chubba.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53409306
Come back again when all phase, idolen and kawaii collab with male chubba.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53409306
you are delusional if you think unicorchads don't rule the roost of YouTube vtubing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53409306
>They unironically think they run the place

[Anonymous No.]

>>53415440
No, but you are delusional thinking people want to watch female chubba with male chubba. Unitykek deserved the rope for not supporting male or female chubba

[Anonymous No.]

>>53413267
most people don't like getting cucked, ignore these people trying to gaslight you into cheering on guys making your crush laugh

[Anonymous No.]

>>53413658
I'm already winning by not being such an obvious ESL faggot like you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53415310
>the roost of Youtube vtubing
The same youtube vtubing that somehow got luxiem to numbers able to compete with HoloX? It's not that way now, but you still let that happen

[Anonymous No.]

explain to me why being a unicorn is bad

[Anonymous No.]

>>53414583
戻れ

[Anonymous No.]

>>53409306

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>>53418721
They can only use buzzwords
If you ask them to give a rational description without defaulting to insults, they fail at it
this is why anti-corns are like orcs; they do not know how to have a discussion, they are literally do mentally impaired. They can only claim to be above them, ad nauseum. They have no actual brain in their head. They react to provocation like an insect programmed to detect movement.
They lack a brain big enough for arguing on the internet. Consider how sad that is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53413315
Sisters say this and still never watch streams

[Anonymous No.]

Reminder that this is your average "CGDCT enjoyer"

[Anonymous No.]

>>53419552
and they says Stars fans are Hololive antis, jesas

[Anonymous No.]

>>53413315
Time to close the board.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53409306
Not gonna watch your whore though

[Anonymous No.]

Trying watching your homos and nijis instead of crying about unicorns.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53412789
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deIu9IyuZRI&t=4875s
I don’t think you should be calling people troons, sister.
>>53419552
>>53419747
You starssisters fled to the homostars after Milord burned you and rejected you for Reimu. Yet, you still maintain your Nijisister tendencies with how obsessed you are over “owning le unichud” and hating what made Hololive great in the first place.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53419552
>searched an anti-homo post
>proclaim its the average CGDCT Enjoyer
Typical Homobeggars twisting things to create their narrative valid
>I do hope VamFAG and Mr. hands gets terminated though

[Anonymous No.]

>>53420606
They've already gone on record to say they don't give two shits except for big events and even then they are just botting

[Anonymous No.]

>>53409306
They are slowly dying because it's not cool to be an anti men hater anymore. You gotta understand that the real ones are powerless and the ones roleplaying do it to bait people and there's a lot of those.

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>>53418721
There is nothing wrong with unicorns. And I honestly believe OP doesn't think so too, by their most base definition. OP was likely deluded by this board into thinking unicorns were tribalfags, dramafags and falseflaggers. Though in fairness, any unicorn /here/ is likely all of this things and more, so it's not completely baseless.
Nobody hates Orca, for example. In fact, most people feel bad for him. Imagine being the most unicorn of all unicorns and nobody hates you for it. If only unikeks /here/ took hits as gracefully.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53421580
those*
Fml

[Anonymous No.]

UNICORNGODS WW@

[Anonymous No.]

>>53421559
Homobeggars are the anti men supporters. They hate anything that straight men enjoy so they push for homocollabs to own the incels.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53421559
Lmao this is cope, keep telling yourself that as most of hololive continues to avoid the homos on our behalf

[Anonymous No.]

>>53421559
>anti-men
Seeing any man but yourself as a man is mental illness
all male vtubers are troops just like you, where Troon means "inferior man to me", and this is every man
we are united in hating troons

[Anonymous No.]

>>53419552
Guys I don't think they "just want to see cute girls doing cute things" anymore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53419552
>average
schizo sees schizos as average, what a surprise

[Anonymous No.]

>>53420988
weren't you btfo over your stars fans=niji fans delusions less than a day ago? you sure do never learn

[Anonymous No.]

>>53409306
Civvia....

[Anonymous No.]

>>53414061
He said incel not fujo.

[Anonymous No.]

So many say they're fans of homos but don't watch streams? Queer outcome but unsurprising.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53424032
Sister, why aren’t you watching da bois?

[Anonymous No.]

>>53425820
Who says I'm not?

[Anonymous No.]

>>53425921
If you were then what are you doing browsing r*ddit and other social media looking for memes to updoot?

[Anonymous No.]

>>53426159
Who says I am?

[Anonymous No.]

>>53409306
I hope ww3 starts tomorrow, send all homos to the front, kill them all

[Anonymous No.]

>>53409306
Wanna know the best part twitter tard? Most normies are in fact unknowing unicorns.
>>53419747
>trying this hard to fit in
the boys are holostars, retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>53426922
>Most normies are in fact unknowing unicorns.
this is some next-level cope right here

[Anonymous No.]

>>53426159
>4chan
>reddit
it's time to go back

[Anonymous No.]

>>53427131
Yeah I'm coping
>unicorns are a minority of a minority on 4chan
>people started watching hololive cause cgdct
>homos came around
>ccvs drop for girls that work with them
>unicorns on 4chan had the power to do this

[Anonymous No.]

>>53427444
>attributing the general decline of Hololive EN to "muh homos" instead of the numerous other factors in the equation
yeah there's the cope

[Anonymous No.]

>>53427573
Homos were one of several causes. The collabs were probably a minor factor and what was a bigger deal was that Tempus debuted in place of EN3, meaning no new blood to inject life into EN.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53427573
>everything you predicted when they did it first happened
ngmi

[Anonymous No.]

>>53427350
We mostly reside on Twitter or Reddit. We would never step near this incel chud hellhole.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53427772
>source: it came to me in a dream

[Anonymous No.]

>>53427825
We know, we can smell the troon ass on you from a mile away. And
>We mostly reside on Twitter or Reddit. We would never step near this incel chud hellhole.
And discord. And you've been here for the last 3 years. Dumb fuck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53427932
Would Regis or Flayon support your transphobic words and actions? What happened to the cause?

[Anonymous No.]

>>53427825
>can't even falseflag right

[Anonymous No.]

>>53413315
Your winning so damn impressive Vox has to run away from you

[Anonymous No.]

>>53419552
Don't post your own pathetic post nigger

[Anonymous No.]

>>53409676
Homobeggars don't watch vtubers. ftfy

[Anonymous No.]

>>53414583
N5-ass post

[Anonymous No.]

>>53413270
Effective immediately.

>>53413315
More like its returning slowly back to its roots...before they latched on to Sanki and muscled them to do your bidding.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53419469
unifaggots say "kiara should deserve more viewers shes the queen of unicorns" only to not watch her either

[Anonymous No.]

>>53427573
Why are the unicorn-friendly / CGDCT quartet (Gura, Ina, Fauna, Mumei, IRyS) still sitting comfortably on top of HoloEN, then? (And actually inclined in Gura & Fauna's cases).
One or two might be just a coincidence, but 5?

[Anonymous No.]

>>53413267
this is incredible cope

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>>53430638
Gura's CCV went up because her streams became a rare commodity that nobody would dare miss as it was like "holy shit Gura's streaming better watch"
Fauna, the other way around happened. She streamed a whole lot and of many different games and it paid off, good on her
I'm not obsessed with CCV so I don't know the rest of their situations outside of vaguely remembering random charts that get posted, but from what I remember the disparity with the rest of the group isn't consistently huge
(also convenient you left out Kiara but included Ina)

[Anonymous No.]

>>53430638
>and inclined in Gura's case
She didn't. Also Mumei and Kiara saw some of the biggest reclines in the branch

[Anonymous No.]

>>53418656
not, that was chinklet homosexuals that did that, with their short, faggoty attention span. To specifically target Hololive. And faggots as you know, are temporary.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53409306
Imagine not only falling in love with 2d streamers but also feeling threatened by 2d males too LMAO
unicorns are unironically weak pathetic insecure faggots who only make things worse for the girls they "love" and for everyone else. Parasites from society and parasites on the internet. No one likes them and no one respect them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53432807
I'd say keep your powerlevels in check, but I remember, you have no power bar money and numbers lol.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53433036(me)
Wasnt referring to you btw, referring to the horned horse trash of this board that are responsible for the absolute gutter trash that is vt's rep. Without them, there'd be no Desertorium nor Parrot nor Emzee to have to expose how shitty their mindsets can be.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53409306
UNICORN HOBBY
UNICORN BOARD
UNICORN THREAD

[Anonymous No.]

You and your ilk are a disgrace to KizAI's legacy. I bet if she was active today, you'd also strongarm her into your bs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53433136
>3 new accounts to check for copyright infringement
thanks anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>53433475
If something happens, I'd know its you fuckers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53413267
a haha

[Anonymous No.]

>>53421580
>There is nothing wrong with unicorns
>Though in fairness, any unicorn /here/ is likely all of this things and more

Hating and feeling bad for bums are one in the same in this case anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>53433434
this is same kizuna ai who collabed with male fleshies around the beginning of her career?
same kizuna ai who collabed with the same 3 males twice on her 4th anniversary?
same kizuna ai who hosted tournaments including nijimales and homostars?
that same kizuna ai, yes?

[Anonymous No.]

>>53434547
TOTAL UNINIG ANNIHILATION

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>>53434594
Relax, I am siding with you with all that. I was saying that if KizAI was active, there'd be people tryna strongarm her into the "no males" thing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53434547
>>53434600
Yeah, we need to purge the fanbase of those unichuds. Only we shall remain.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53434547
>bums
>with alot of cash to spend on their oshi
Youre a jealous poor are'nt you!?!?

[Anonymous No.]

>>53434644
(Me) I was avoiding giving the mf above a (You)

[Anonymous No.]

Sisterposter strikes again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53433136
Why should anyone care what you think though? If you aren't generating revenue for the girls or for cover your opinion is basically irrelevant. Your aren't supply or demand; you are just an angry irrelevant third party who is mad that your ideology isn't being implemented.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53432807
>>53433136
Why are you watching clips and “owning le unichuds” instead of supporting da bois?

[Anonymous No.]

>>53431243
She did

[Anonymous No.]

>>53434649
i dont understand why people keep putting unikeks and fujosisters in separate chopping blocks. they're both cut from the same cloth. the extreme isn't not one or the other, it's both or not being retarded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53434723
Take away the money and what are you?

Thought
So.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53434872
So true man... UNIty and Fujosisters are the cancer of this sub-culture
>they should all be eliminated at once

[Anonymous No.]

>>53434652
They're entertainers first and foremost dense anon-chan. It's all well and good to donate money. It's delusional lardass behavior to think of them as your own personal escort

[Anonymous No.]

>>53434978
Ironic

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>>53434872
The extreme thing is expecting to have a say in something that you don't fund. Customers aren't obligated to buy products and services they don't want.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53434859
She did not. The majority of her streams were celebrations or collabs which will artificially buffer average. She has reclined as well. For example her birthday last was 63k, but this year it was only 44k. A Gura+Ame collab last year had 50k, this year it was 20k. Her Bramble stream was her lowest performing stream in almost an entire year.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53434978
go back to laddit dude...
youve lost that place already too FYI

[Anonymous No.]

Why has ntr/cuckoldry gotten so popular ? I really wanted that shit to not reach mainstream but here we are. Fucking mental illness

[Anonymous No.]

>>53409306
That's why the industry is thriving.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53434978
It's delusional to think your opinion is relevant when you aren't paying them anything or generating them any revenue. It's delusional for you to think consumer discretionary businesses can ignore their customers preferences and be successful.

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>>53419552
>Make some random half hearted shitpost about homos to annoy the sisters
>They try to spin it as any level of a serious post
>Still seething about it hours later
Touchy today aren't we? Forget to take your hormone blockers?

[Anonymous No.]

>>53435149
>this makes my side look bad so I'm gonna say it's a shitpost/falseflag
>anything that makes the other side look bad is real, though

[Anonymous No.]

>>53435002
I'm not saying they're not parasocial weirdos either anon. When you don't fall under either of these two extremes, you can't help but laugh at how it looks from the outside

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>>53435120
Yes. The people not treating vtubers as girlfriends and/or something they own and only as entertainers are the mentally ill. For sure man.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53435178
I am literally the anon who wrote it, but feel free to tell me I was actually super serious about it and not at all just trying to piss you off.
Looks like it worked too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53435148
>Unicorns make up majority of their earnings
She won't fuck you even with another aka supa anon

[Anonymous No.]

>my oshi never collabs with males
>regularly streams
>fat tits
>sexy voice
Come at me fuckers. I don't care if she's a 2 view she's the best. Far better than anyone in niji or homolive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53435231
>yeah I totally wrote it that was 100% me
>that way you definitely know it was a shitpost and wasn't serious
>there's no way someone else wrote it haha

[Anonymous No.]

>>53435256
She won't collab with men, which is sufficient to make you seethe.

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>>53413315
Lost how? Tempiss are all 3 views. The 2 that collab with girls the most might get fired. The girls that homocollabed lost the most viewers. Fauna inclined hard. And Gura is still number 1. Unicorns won by every conceivable objective metric. Except maybe reddit updoots.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53435277
You can cry for making yourself look like an idiot all you'd like anon, I don't mind

[Anonymous No.]

>>53435348
k
keep talking bout how you want everyone who collabs with stars to rope themselves
sure makes you look sane

[Anonymous No.]

>>53435314
>the girls that homocollabed lost the most viewers
>Kiara
>Mumei

[Anonymous No.]

>>53435374
>It wasn't you
>It was you
Keep going anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>53435420
hey if you want to represent yourself as an insane person don't let me stop you

[Anonymous No.]

>>53435454
Come on anon, a few more posts to REALLY cement yourself as a clown!

[Anonymous No.]

This is pleasant entertainment. Thank you anons for being you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53409306
>unicorn
not for the EN scene, lots of cucks though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53409306
That's the natural state of a man's heart, most men won't admit it out of kindness and because western degeneration tries to villainize masculinity so they cope and pretend it doesn't bother them, In the end you can only tolerate being a cuck for so long and you WILL jump ship to a purer chuuba eventually.
You cannot go against natural instinct, purity is an natural sook after trait by men since time immemorial.

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>>53435256
I didn't ever expect her to fuck me, in fact if she did I would leave her on the spot and toss her in the "for the streets" box.
All I want is to spend my money on someone who doesn't already have another man.
In other words, I want to take care of her financially, so she shouldn't spend it on a guy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53435385
both of them avoid homos like the plague

[Anonymous No.]

>>53435544
I would never tolerate being a cuck in my life. I've been cheated on twice and both women got their rightful beatings.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53435725
And Kiara had the second largest recline and Mumei had the fourth largest recline

[Anonymous No.]

>>53435695
>I didn't ever expect her to fuck me, in fact if she did...
Now now anon, no one's expecting that. See but your statement says you still see the talent in a romantic way versus from a strictly entertainment view. That's ur own cross to bear anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>53435256
>She won't fuck you
Dint ask

[Anonymous No.]

>have an idol oshi
>she goes to lots of cons
>meet her at one
>sex
She fucked me and now I can't watch anyone else

[Anonymous No.]

>>53409306
And i will laugh at them when they inevitably get ”cucked”.

[Anonymous No.]

>>/vt/thread/53281269#p53291248
This is your average homo enjoyer btw

[Anonymous No.]

>>53435768
>I've been cheated on twice
Alright Gabe

[Anonymous No.]

>>53436165
I mean, that's far better than the CGDCTfag here >>53419552

[Anonymous No.]

>>53436165
>shitting on antis hoping for your chuubas to graduate
sounds like normal behavior to me

[Anonymous No.]

I'm not a unicorn but I understand the mentality because I remember the fags from /a/ back in 2008-2012 who would construct shrines for their anime waifu and get angry when unnecessary males would show up in their cute girls anime.
Is it reasonable to sperg out for that reason? Nah.
Were those anime specifically trying to reach that demographic anyway? Yes.
Have those people EVER gone away? They're the unicorns of today, or the next generation of them.
There's tons of chuuba out there who are basically just a twitch e-girl with an anime girl mech suit. Then there's Hololive that are operating on the idol angle. Then there's VSPO who are JP FPS girls. And so on.
No reason why you can't also have GFE chuubas and unicorn friendly chuuba who simply keep it strictly within the scope of "cute girls interacting with cute girls". If I had to imagine why anti-unicorns screech so much, it's because they're ironic weebs with a twitter poisoned brain and want to engage in activism on yet another hobby.
Personally, I want ALL these options available to me. I want variety. I don't want to see another hobby become some pozzed mono-culture.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53409306
No way

[Anonymous No.]

>>53436519
This.
But this shit should go both ways.
I'd enjoy life more if anons didn't spam cuck every time anyone mentions getting the slightest bit of enjoyment out of a chuuba who collabs with males or males in general.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53436519
>Is it reasonable to sperg out for that reason? Nah.
Should have just stopped there
Everything below that is just cope, simple as

[Anonymous No.]

>>53409306
Why post Miko for this when she profits off Unicorns?

[Anonymous No.]

>>53413267
Pretty much this. Had to divorce my wife after she tried to cuck me (constant flirting with other men behind my back). I watch vtubers to have somewhat of a female company without being reminded of their toxic behavior in real life. Fauna is my favorite, since she really keeps the kayfabe going and is good for positive affirmations.
>inb4 FRIENDS
She is right. My image of her would drasticly change if I knew her personally and had to be actual emotional support for her. She wouldnt be that perfect idol/entertainer anymore, but a real person with flaws and issues which would break that escapism.

[Anonymous No.]

I hate homosisters so fucking much.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53436846
Agree, although I think a lot of it is just the low quality of this board and jannies only doing the work they care to do. Unicorn/Anti-unicorn shitposting also plays right into the corpo tribalism, and both have stopped being funny awhile ago.
>>53436973
15 years anon. They aren't going anywhere.

[Anonymous No.]

I hate whorosisters so fucking much.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53435226
You're a mentally ill NPC for wasting so much breath and time on a hobby you can't even like unironically out of fear of plebbitards and their updoots

[Anonymous No.]

>>53409676
They just make drama, they don't actually watch their homos.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53418309
cute mikoti image! you will never be a woman or pass

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>>53426922
Correct, 99% of the audience are unicorns because it's the most reasonable position to take and a commonly held position of all fanbases. They like the content a certain way and don't want it changed to appeal to a different audience. It's not much different from Doom players complaining about story/puzzle elements slowing down the action too much.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53433199
don't care nigga, board for vtubers regardless of sex

[Anonymous No.]

>>53430936
If they incline whether they stream more/less, then why didn't anyone else incline? I think a better explanation is that the audience doesn't like homos and would rather support girls who keep their distance from them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53430638
>IRyS
>Mumei
>Fauna
>Ina
>top of HoloEN
kek
>Gura
>every stream is a return stream
kek
>Ina again
>unicorn friendly
kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>53439341
>incline whether they stream more/less
It’s less that they incline even if they’ve got more streams or less streams, and more so that Gura is an anomaly who has attained meme status and constant public mindshare
Anyone else, not streaming would generally kill numbers(see: Sana), but Gura has cemented her spot in everyone’s mind due to memes and thus everyone’s constantly looking for her next move, even if she isn’t doing anything

[Anonymous No.]

>>53439341
>>53439474
You guys are reading way too much into this. She "inclined" because she hardly has any regular streams this year. Technically her average for June this year was 44.5k.
Because she only streamed once.
For her birthday.
Which got 20k less than last year.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53419552
based?? but let homoEN die who gives a shit lulz

[Anonymous No.]

>>53409306
Kelpies will take over soon

[Anonymous No.]

>>53436421
Tempusanjisister, don’t be hypocritical. >>53437995

[Anonymous No.]

>>53441646
>a completely different post in the thread that has literally nothing to do with the reply chain
Are you ok in the head, anon

[Anonymous No.]

why does everyone want to fuck anime women so much its considered "cucking" to not care about male collabs? does no one even consider the possibility of watching chuubas for entertainment??? not even trolling im genuinely fascinated by this brainrot

[Anonymous No.]

>>53441911
There once was an anon who seethed at me for being a “casual fan” because I like chuubas for being funny little anime people in the corner playing video games
It was amusing

[Anonymous No.]

>>53441911
Idk sis you probably know the answer better than anyone

[Anonymous No.]

>>53441911
why do you think they wanna fuck? What if its about companionship and hanging out? if those girls are given money to carry a not-in-relationship character, why wont they carry the character correctly? and then comes the question: how does the girls entertain their fans? is seeing their ideal women flirts with another man, entertaining? Does give money to a woman already in relationship feels entertaining?

[Anonymous No.]

>>53442256
Why do platonic interactions between men and women always seem like flirting to you

[Anonymous No.]

>>53442440
Even if it's not flirting it doesn't matter even banter is going to chafe a little, most men don't enjoy watching a girl they like do either with some dude because one can turn into the other very easily.
>She doesn't know you, they are her coworkers
Yeah exactly, you are not even in a position to compete which makes it even more unpleasant to watch.
It's the kind of thing that you suck up and deal with if it happens in real life because not doing so would be weird as fuck but in this business where they are soliciting time and money from (let's be honest) lonely fucks, why would people want to continue exposing themselves to content that the monkey brain doesn't like?

This "unicorn" mindset is in literally all men, it's only not understood by women or casuals who are detached enough to not have feelings for the anime girls (a good thing but I digress)

[Anonymous No.]

>>53418122
>he has a crush on a cartoon

[Anonymous No.]

>>53441972
how is this raging phonefaggot who spams the catalog on cooldown with his faggotry not permabanned yet? they clean isle whenever mori or kiara gets spammed, but this waste of oxygen and the guraschizo is a-ok apparently

[Anonymous No.]

>>53444025
>/vt/ jannies
>actually doing anything useful
kek good one

[Anonymous No.]

>>53443328
You see, I agree to an extent. But this mindset just doesn't exist for every chuuba, and can, IMHO, be changed on either end.
Look at Suisei. She made her aversion to gachis clear as day, as many times as she could. Clearly the fact she's still inclining means she was able to detach her audience herself. She changed the dynamic from 'ideal gf/wife' to 'aspirational figure'.
The subculture is too young to be making absolutes about anything. Everyone thought anime as a culture was set-in-stone until Eva happened.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53412789
80% of the posts are made by 20% of its users.

[Anonymous No.]

I don't really care if a female and male talk to each other on stream. That's perfectly normal and acceptable. What I don't like though is when there's a couple on stream constantly flirting with each other or openly talking about their sex life. That I can't stand even in the real world.

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>>53419552
This one deserves to go on bannedvtmemes

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>>53444741
Anon, Suisei is more a sex symbol than anything else DESU. she probably have around as much porn as marine. And she hate it. And people making that porn love that she hate it. She is the symbol of non consentual sex fetish.

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>>53444156
A clear bias imo. There must be some treaty that there'd be no more nonstop orange/pink on the board in exchange for this kinda shit running rampant.

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>>53409306
yea, me

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>>53445654
You spend too much time on this fucking board, ESLkun.
I'm talking about her CORE audience. The ones who watch streams, listen to her radio show and music releases, follow MGO, watch/attend concerts and live appearances, participate in larger community shit like the JP anniversary video projects.
I wasn't talking about you casual fucking clipwatching 誰でも unicorn holofaggots screeching suisex and suipiss at every opportune moment.

[Anonymous No.]

>We couldn't get away from the hook in our business model
Did you know they make cigarettes that are really just tobacco? Called American Spirits, they're one of the least popular brands and are only consumed by hipsters and people trying to turn quitting smoking into baby steps. Without all the toxic humectants and addiction enhancing heavy metals it's like barely smoking at all. As a product it's only successful because people know about the additives, that's it's entire brandplatform, just being a parasite on the belly of true addiction.

>There are still smokers who aren't trying to quit smoking
Yeah. Like, most of them in fact. So same situation here, abandon your true hook and you've abandoned your product's functional model. So what's your interest here? Getting the community to abandon their profitable, functional model and die. To get woke, go broke and leave us homeless yet again with nowhere to go but into your homo arms. Little do you know though, nobody's actually going to smoke you for too long. That's not the kind of product you are, you nasty cardboard tasting fake no vagina cigarette. YWNBAW

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>>53447448
Going by this analogy, GFE and CGDCT streams are horribly addictive, give everyone who watches them cancer, and make people throw their money away toward something that's killing them

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>>53446839
>I'm talking about her CORE audience. The ones who watch streams, listen to her radio show and music releases, follow MGO, watch/attend concerts and live appearances, participate in larger community shit like the JP anniversary video projects.
Ho so you meant the people who cum from her porn once a day and not once a month. my bad my bad.
Joke based on absolutes fact aside, retardanon, no matter how a prude """""aspirational figure"""""" you and she pretend to be she is still a coomer bait at the end of the day for the general populace, that was the point you seem to not be able to understand within your bubble of desilusion. More than any other members. More than fucking marine.

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>>53436362
Who the actual fuck is Gabe.

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>>53447734
All true. This...cgdct is killing their perception of women and reality. It immerses them into dangerous amounts of fantasy, like drinking softdrinks every waking hour.

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>>53448304
I hate that i know this.. I think its a kronie that went mental over tempus cock

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>>53448304
A precautionary tale.

He's a former Kronie that sperged big-time in public once THOSE collabs happened.

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>>53444741
>She changed the dynamic from 'ideal gf/wife' to 'aspirational figure'.
men can't aspire to be women, anon
men are inherently sexist(good thing) and cannot mentally use a woman as an example of success

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>>53435833
Romance and sex are two entirely different things.
Platonic sexual attraction exists, you fucking idiot.

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>>53444741
>this mindset just doesn't exist for every chuuba, and can, IMHO, be changed on either end
People with the gachikoi mindset are going to exist in the hobby no matter the efforts taken to dissuade it but I agree in principle, it also takes a certain level of talent and drive to be that aspirational "true idol" that Suisei is, not everyone has it.
>The subculture is too young to be making absolutes about anything
Also true, but I was making an absolute about male behaviour rather than who hololive panders to, which could always change, has changed and arguably already is changing again in small ways. Whether they can garner the same level of devotion and monetary support if the culture changes again and male collabs become the norm remains to be seen.
Suisei may have filtered the no males in any capacity crowd, but if she had a legitimate relationship yab she would not be immune from the blowback.
>Everyone thought anime as a culture was set-in-stone
I don't think anybody thinks hololives culture is set in stone (and hololive seems to be what we are both talking about here) which is why people react so badly to things even appearing to change. If you don't think pandering to gachis/unicorns is a morally bad thing, why does this slice of a niche subculture even NEED to change? For what purpose?

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>>53409306
why yes, I'm a unicorn, how could you tell?

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>>53409306
the thing im wondering is: how? how are there still unicorns? how didnt months/years of constantly consuming vtubing related information not give you enough insight into the female mind to understand unicornfaggotry runs perpendicular to how women actually behave? how many rushia situations do you need to witness before you give up the delusion?

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>>53430564
>Kiara
>Queen or unicorns
Not even close she gives the homos too much attention

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>>53448732
huh? the reason unicorns are into vtubers is what u just said, real women are a lost cause, it's only good when they pretend to be the ideal thru a cute anime avatar

[Anonymous No.]

Always remember that the sisters want you to stop being an unicorn because they don't watch streams, don't waste your precious girls only watch time into their male propaganda

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>>53436519
I mean, obviously. You don't see unicorns or CGDCT enjoyers spamming imploring Veibae to stop collabing with males, do you? This is an entirely one-sided affair, homobeggars trying to convert Hololive into their preferred style of streaming.

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>>53442440
You're probably too young, but you'll understand in time. Plenty of regular relationships break apart because of "platonic" interactions with other men/women.

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>>53444741
lol Suisei is perfect for maso fans. If you don't think she has gachis, think again.

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>>53409306
HoloEN is at least trying to get rid of them with more males

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>>53448397
>>53448409
Well then the faggot that called me Gabe needs to know his place. At least I got revenge on the whores who cheated on me.

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>>53448359
You got the order mixed up. Men are escaping to CGDCT and GFE fantasies because feminism changed the relationship landscape. Vtubing isn't the cause of anything, it's just a symptom of a greater historical event.

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>>53435264
Who

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>>53413315
>Niji homos
Endless drama, free falling numbers
>Holo homos
Suspensions and hiatus galore
>small corpo homos like Prism
flopped, irrelevant and already on hiatus
>indie homos
Getting exposed at least once a day to be groomers or sexual abusers

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>>53448037
>holy pajeet
Man oh man, I know english is already way too difficult for you, seeing as how you don't seem to understand many of the terms you're saying, so I understand too why learning JP and investing yourself in actual fan spaces can be quite difficult. You may continue to live in that """desilusion""" (kek) of yours based on your clipwatching and non-investment in the hobby.

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>>53448732
Are you actually stupid? This is like asking people to stop wanting sex. It's just not going to happen, it's hardwired into humans from birth.
Men do not want other men to interact with the women they desire. Like it or not, that's just how nature made us.

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>>53448831
The opposite, homo give her a lot of attention and she give the minimal amount back. Like she is constantly putting them at their right place, that why unicorn love her quite a lot. She isn't straight out ignoring them but she clearly is as interested in them as the unicorn are.

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>>53449445
I do know she has gachis. I've actually met real JP gachis in super expo. Shit will fall through the cracks no matter how tight you weave the basket. it doesn't change the fact that she's weaved the basket tight enough to keep them out of her general perception (the live chat audience) and changed audience expectations for herself in general.

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>>53448479
that's why she has a large fucking female audience. if every single one of her gachi/unicorns keeled over and died, she can sustain herself through them. not in the same capacity, but enough to dominate a sizeable chunk of the landscape still.

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>>53409306
Well they won, won, and won more, and also won again and again and again and will won some more after than. And you know the best part? they barely need to do anything.

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>>53448610
>an absolute about male behaviour
I'm in slight agreement. I've been to enough places in the world where that absolute simply isn't true, but it's definitely prevalent in western internet spaces.
>If you don't think pandering to gachis/unicorns is a morally bad thing
I don't, actually. I'm one of those lonely fucks you mentioned. I seek out GFE chuubas all the time. But an anon mentioned it earlier and I'm too lazy to find them, but I think variety is a good thing. It's not that I want changes, but I feel like there should be additions. Male chuubas, for one, I found I really enjoyed. TempusVG I often watch to relax when I don't feel like having my vtuber wife lick my ears. I'm open to the potential of where vtubing can go, and I feel like it can get to places we can't perceive right now.

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>>53449985
Of course. It's no different from Ayame not streaming that often. It's all about cultivating your audience over time and knowing when to stop. The most important thing is plausible deniability. You can maintain gachis while not doing GFE as long as you don't overtly attack them. A little banter is just good fodder for maso fans.
Same reason Bae isn't as hated in EN as Mori/Kronii/Ame, because she set expectations right from the beginning. If you change course mid-journey it's a lot harder.

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>>53450552
>Male chuubas, for one, I found I really enjoyed
I wanted to like them, but BFE and brotuber experiences are mutually exclusive for the most part. I don't want my bro to start kissing my ear, that makes me uncomfortable. I'm fine with pure BFE streamers, because I can simply not watch them, but "brotubers" always skirt the line and it just doesn't work for me.

[Anonymous No.]

My oshi is fine with her Unicorn fans, even the very schizo ones, so I'm doing well.
I don't see any reason to change if my oshi is fine with it

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>>53450926
different strokes, different folks. But again, I agree. really wish the trajectory shifted for male chuubas to assume they're primarily addressing a male audience.
>>53450792
>maso fans
I wouldn't say it's like that in Sui's case as it's more friendly banter than anything. I think HSKW is a lot closer to the definition of having a maso fanbase.

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>>53448732
>rushia situations
There's a lot better examples to use than her, for quite a few reasons. She understood what she had done wasn't good and set about making amends. To this day, she still hard panders to her Unicorns, which has also resulted in an increase in kaigai pandering, which is pretty interesting for a JOP vtuber. She also didn't step over the line to actual outright hard betrayal either.
There are actual better examples of Vtubers actually throwing out their Unicorns

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>>53450552
>It's not that I want changes, but I feel like there should be additions. Male chuubas, for one, I found I really enjoyed.
Well if that's the case then more power to you, I won't enquire too deeply about your GFE chuuba wife, but I imagine you appreciate the separation when it comes to her content and wouldn't want males intruding on it in any way. So let tempus be an "addition" and, like tempus2 are doing, keep their distance from the mostly disparate audience of the hologirls. The whole thing could have worked out better If they had done that from the start and it's not like they couldn't still attract viewers who are open to both types of content like yourself.
>I feel like it can get to places we can't perceive right now
I'm all for innovation if it doesn't change the part I like too much. Male vtubers actually managing to appeal to a male audience was clearly one of their goals but attempting to achieve it in the way that they did failed and it seems like they have mostly accepted that now.

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>>53443541
>he has a crush on the real woman behind the "cartoon"
If VTubers want their viewers to see them purely as a fictional character and not a real person, then they need to commit to the kayfabe 100%. And the vast majority of Vtubers don't do that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53449712
Yurikago Kokone
>>53435264
>Can't find any dirt on your oshi
Ok, I will watch her.

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>>53444741
Nah. I agree with other anons. gachis are almost inevitable no matter how hard you try.
Towa has an addition of her initial ginormous male voice yab, the catastrophe of an apology, collabing with males every other stream and her always-on anti-gachi demeanor. That didn't stop gachis from happening at all. a quick look at /towa/ should be enough to prove that.

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>>53451472
>really wish the trajectory shifted for male chuubas to assume they're primarily addressing a male audience.
You would need a whole different kind of model for that, i remember a post "where is my dwarf male Vtuber". You need that kind of ugly but bro material kind of shit to appeal to a male audience. Also you need to be both good and autist about one or two game, and like good, really good, not good compared to other Vtuber, good like you are in the top 100. Expectation for a male streamer are league away than expectation for females one. Most if not all current male Vtuber just don't fit any critera for male to male audience. and they need to fit them ALL for it to work.

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>>53409306
because that's where the merch sales and SCs mostly come from

it's the same as mobile games and whales

[Anonymous No.]

Long after normies and troonies leave the hobby for the next thing they can infest, unicorns will be only
ones remaining watchers and supporters.

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>>53452863
Towa has never been anti-gachikoi, she's just not favorable to unicorns, big difference there. She does a fair bit of gachi pandering to this day too, she's just not favorable to unicorns.

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>>53451901
>So let tempus be an "addition" and, like tempus2 are doing, keep their distance from the mostly disparate audience of the hologirls.
I couldn't agree more. Maybe then, /vt/keks wouldn't be so hostile towards males and mixed corpos/groups lmao

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>>53443328
I agree. It's really all about how the chuuba presents themselves.
Hololive members in general present themselves like an all-girls CGDCT idol anime. And I've seen enough to know that the appearance of male interaction DOES irk me the same way.
Compared to Niji, which presents itself more like a slice-of-life mixed cast show and I know for absolute certain watching my nijioshi banter with males, for example, doesn't bother me whatsoever.
Exceptions exist, of course. Tower hard changed trajectory mid-career and is still having a hard time to this day. But she's done it long enough can watch her play with males and not be bothered.