/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

>first to have a member suspended
>first to have a member suspended, twice
>first to have two members suspended simultaneously
>first to have a 300 ccv member
>first to straightforwardly beg for money on stream, risking the brand image as a whole
>first to cause this much drama
>first to be the loud minority of hololive

[Anonymous No.]

by popular demand

[Anonymous No.]

nijisanji is dying deflection thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>53240218
Tempiss = nijisanji

[Anonymous No.]

>>53240033
JP stars did all of that first

[Anonymous No.]

>>53240218
Literally the same fanbase.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53240218
Tempusanji is dying

[Anonymous No.]

>>53240251
Suspended? nope

[Anonymous No.]

>>53240033
BY POPULAR DEMAND.
Dont you support the bros?!?

Tempus was a mistake and a fucking disgrace to the brand.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53240595
The Holostars brand? Because they're all low-views. Or are you admitting that the boys are part of Hololive EN?

[Anonymous No.]

>>53240678
Why are you fixated on whether or not they're part of Hololive EN? Tempus is pure cancer that needs to be removed either way.

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>>53240218
you can't hate tempus without hating niji

[Anonymous No.]

>>53240218
Nijisanji has always had the same fanbase as tempiss, tranny.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53240033
Tempus was a mistake and the main reason all these small corpos were able to gain so much ground due to the neglect of holoEN and their lack of focus on CGDCT. And that was before 2 of them revealed themselves to be fuckups.
Also the only kind of new fan they DID attract is the cancer that was previously only buzzing around nijisanji. At least the unicorns didn't make a fuss or go schizo until around 2 years in when the males dropped. The nijisisters, homobeggars and fujos have been obnoxious from the second they started watching.

I know who I would rather share a fanbase with.

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>>53240033
I agree with the first one, but the other two points you made are completely false.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53240218
lol

[Anonymous No.]

>first to mindbreak /vt/ in the span of a few seconds upon debut

[Anonymous No.]

>>53240461
oh right, they just had terminations

[Anonymous No.]

>>53240033
>>first to have a member suspended
What is Aloe?
>>first to have a member suspended, twice
What is Haachama?
>>first to have two members suspended simultaneously
What is Haachama and Coco?
>>first to have a 300 ccv member
What is Sora with her 13 viewer?
>>first to straightforwardly beg for money on stream, risking the brand image as a whole
What even is that? Did you pull that out of your ass?
>>first to cause this much drama
What? Where else? Only here
>>first to be the loud minority of hololive
What is Hololive CN

[Anonymous No.]

>>53241063
>What is Sora with her 13 viewer?
Holy disingenuous argument, using Sora as an example whilst she was building the entire brand the homos attach themselves to from nothing.

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>>53241145
Did she not have only 13 viewers during debut?

[Anonymous No.]

>>53240033
it's almost like they belong to niji

[Anonymous No.]

>>53240218
one dying garbage to get rid another dying garbage is a W for me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53240033
>>first to have a member suspended, twice
>>first to have two members suspended simultaneously
When did these happen? Proof next thread, right?

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>>53241177
Kill yourself if you think comparing Sora at the start of holo to a completely established brand is in any way fair.
Also the OP's greentext is easy enough to pick apart because they didn't specify they were talking about the males but on that one point you don't have a leg to stand on.
>>53241254
Mandatory "break" announced by corporate, can't tweet, can't stream, both stopped all activity on their accounts on july 6th and 7th with the notice following on 3 days later. Not looking good there - investigation with suspension or firing to follow if whatever cover thinks they did pans out is a pretty safe bet.

[Anonymous No.]

StarsJP understand what it means to be idols at the very least. They're basically just HoloJP but male.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53241339
You want fair? Go ask Uyu!
Sora had 13 viewers at debut and that's a fact.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53241339
So no proof. Got it

[Anonymous No.]

>>53240829
who is making these threads then if not nijisisters

[Anonymous No.]

>>53241339
>Mandatory "break" announced by corporate, can't tweet, can't stream, both stopped all activity on their accounts on july 6th and 7th with the notice following on 3 days later. Not looking good there - investigation with suspension
Reminding you that Holo is not Niji. You claim with no proof and it makes you look like a fucking idiot.

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>>53241564
Uproar 2 soon, yeah?

[Anonymous No.]

>>53241339
>investigation with suspension
Just hide in a corner bro, you're not fooling shit lol

[Anonymous No.]

U mad you didn't get in tempiss 3 didn't you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>53241585
You are coping. All their activities have been stopped on the same day, blue homo can't give any information, claims to not even have it and "hopes" they will be back soon.
I guess in the absence of an official statement spelling it out for you you can continue to cope but for all intents and purposes they are suspended.
>>53241730
https://twitter.com/hololive_En/status/1678333533650325506
>All activities of Magni Dezmond and Noir Vesper from HOLOSTARS English including live streaming will be stopped
>Stopped
https://twitter.com/magnidezmond
>Last activity July 7th
https://twitter.com/noirvesper_en
>Last activity July 6th
What exactly am I claiming without proof? They have had their accounts and activities restricted by corporate, it is right there in the announcement. If it looks like a suspension and smells like a suspension, it's a suspension despite them not being willing to say what exactly they have done wrong yet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>first to have a member suspended
wrong
>>first to have a member suspended, twice
proof?
>>first to have two members suspended simultaneously
proof?
>>first to have a 300 ccv member
wrong
>>first to straightforwardly beg for money on stream, risking the brand image as a whole
wrong
>>first to cause this much drama
wrong
>>first to be the loud minority of hololive
wrong
there was an attempt

[Anonymous No.]

>>53241890
>You are coping.
>All their activities have been stopped on the same day
>Disproves this very point in the reply to someone else
Lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>53241890
>What exactly am I claiming without proof? They have had their accounts and activities restricted by corporate, it is right there in the announcement.
I forgot I'm talking to a retard. It says "stopped for a while" if they wanted to suspend both of them they should outright say it like Vesper's first suspension, you can't wait 3 days for this shit and then suddenly "oh muh suspension" they haven't had contact with them in 3 days. Not even management knows where they are

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>>53242009
That is your nitpicking, really? A tweet at 1 am from Magni after the last tweet being 6pm the previous day from Vesper? Timezones, the fact he had a out of company collab or different managers can easily explain an 7 hour difference. The fact remains they BOTH stopped all activities so close to each other, missed streams and the next update was this from corporate should tell anyone who isn't fucking retarded all they need to know about this "break" https://twitter.com/hololive_En/status/1678333533650325506
>>53242105
Not even management knows where they are
Fucking kek, yeah okay sister they both eloped together on the same day THAT sounds like a far more reasonable speculation.

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>>53242105
I mean I know one of them was at AX when it happened after that he was radio silent

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>>53242208
It still doesn't change the fact that your definitive proof isn't really definitive. Go do your detective work then I'm sure you can find proof they are suspended. I'll wait

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>>53241063
axel patheticaly begged for money a few weeks ago, but, like all tempus fans, you dont watch their streams so you couldnt know

and if you think the drama is only here you are very retarded

[Anonymous No.]

More importantly
>double suspensions on nebulous reasoning at the exact same time

[Anonymous No.]

>>53242309
I am making a claim by inference. In the extremely unlikely scenario where they both went MIA 7 hours apart because they are kicking it back on a beach somewhere and decided to not tell management or their genmates feel free to grudgepost me. We will know soon enough.

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>>53241909
in holoEN he is exactly right. your homos as shit, just accept it already

[Anonymous No.]

The amount of seething they cause in this board is straight up glorious.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53242344
>you dont watch their streams
And you do? If so why haven't I seen any timestamped links yet?

[Anonymous No.]

>>53242514
Go back

[Anonymous No.]

>>53242394
Oh yeah sure. I just hope you don't feel like an idiot when it actually comes out

[Anonymous No.]

>>53242651
Don't worry sis, I will be fine - just tell them to post the holiday pics on twitter already like Kiara and Reine did. It's not like they can't right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>53241177
Temptrannies really turning on the people who made hololive what it is from the gutter to score an epic own. Kek what flops

[Anonymous No.]

How's Uproar doing these days?

[Anonymous No.]

>>53242208
>That is your nitpicking, really?
Sorry, I didn't want you to feel too retarded after the self-btfo. I see self awareness doesn't exist for you. Let's continue.
>blue homo can't give any information, claims to not even have it
Actually, "blue homo" says the exact opposite. They DO have information and are choosing not to say anything for Vesper and Magni's privacy. If it was conflict with Cover they wouldn't be allowed to say shit.
>I guess in the absence of an official statement spelling it out for you
Actually the statement they gave was completely different from any other punishment statement they've ever given. Vesper's first suspension had: a reason, a duration, and blame shifted on to him. None of that exists here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53242935
How is pointing out how things were on the beginning turning on Sora? Even she's talked about it retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>53242491
>when you take out everyone who fits what he said he's exactly right!
even in en not all of it is right kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>53240033
>first to be the loud minority of hololive
oh cool so tempus are now hololive

[Anonymous No.]

>>53243209
>Self BTFO
You are aware I acknowledged that it was July 6th and 7th in my earlier post right? >>53241339 I just truncated the point in my reply to the first anon because 7 hours apart with the last activity on the next day being a single tweet at 1am is barely even worth mentioning, let alone coping with.
>>53243209
>blue homo says the exact opposite
>Now what I will say on this is, the boys don't know too much about it. Even the information we do have we are going to keep to ourselves out of privacy concerns, this is not something I feel I should speak on.
???
>If it was conflict with Cover they wouldn't be allowed to say shit.
Clearly not true as multiple members spoke on Vespers first suspension with the same kind of cagey tone that Altare is displaying in the above quote.
>Actually the statement they gave was completely different from any other punishment statement they've ever given
On that point we can agree, but it being different is the ONLY thing people are clinging to. It's worth remembering this is a statement put out by the English twitter and management as opposed to Vespers first suspension notice which was translated into english after being released by the japanese cover account. That could very easily account for the difference in tone and vagueness. We don't have a suspension notice put out ONLY on the English side to even compare it to, so this cope is weak.

They have had their accounts and activities stopped, missed streams - their genmates have incomplete information and don't want to speak on what little they do know. If your only cope is
>but the announcement is a bit different from the JP one
I don't know what to say to you apart from wait and see.

[Anonymous No.]

Didn't Magni say he wanted out before he even debuted? He's a good entertainer but I think he chaffs at the idea that corpo vtubing is a career rather then a hobby.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53244683
>blue homo can't give any information, claims to not even have it
>>the boys don't know too much about it. Even the information we do have
That sounds like opposites to me.
>Clearly not true
Your very own greentext shows they're choosing to keep the information private, not Cover forcing them to keep quiet. During Vesper's suspension they said they "can't" talk about it.
>We don't have a suspension notice put out ONLY on the English side to even compare it to, so this cope is weak.
That's what makes it not exactly a "cope" to begin with. When Vesper was suspended, the announcement happened hours after he streamed, from the JP and the EN accounts. Not only did this announcement come days after their inactivity, there was no acknowledgement from the JP account whatsoever.
>>but the announcement is a bit different from the JP one
They're radically different, both in clarity and tone.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53245375
>Your very own greentext shows they're choosing to keep the information private, not Cover forcing them to keep quiet.
I am absolutely not invested enough in this argument to track down every time Vespers first suspension was mentioned by them to compare, but splitting hairs over some of them saying "I can't" talk about it and some saying "I choose" not to talk about is a waste of time. You cannot put that much stock in their choice of words especially in a corpo environment where they may be softening their language on purpose to keep panic/speculation under control.
>They're radically different, both in clarity and tone.
Yes that is true, it is an incredibly vague statement right down to the period of time that is involved. "For a while" what even is that?
So in the absence of any real clarity from the announcement you look at the circumstances around it. The stoppage of activities 7 hours apart, the radio silence from both talents, the missed streams, the announcement and the lack of information available to even their genmates and draw a conclusion. Which is that cover felt the need to restrict them from streaming or tweeting for SOME reason and is not ready to give any extra finer detail.

It's not even a stretch and I don't see why people are pushing back on it so hard. They may be reinstated with no action taken, they may have done nothing wrong. But acting like it is MORE likely they are just on some mysterious unannounced break at the same time and can't provide any updates themselves and needed corporate to do it for them stretches credulity.

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>>53240218
yeah no shit because the ex-nijisis are all tempissers/bettelions now

[Anonymous No.]

>>53242935
EN management genuinely created their own, home grown Hololive antis. Just an amazing display if incompetence.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53242530
NTA but here, Ill spoonfeed you. Fair warning, its pretty cringe.
https://youtu.be/ZDgXWNDoIj4?t=1073

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>>53241637
As a holobro I support shitting on Tempus at every opportunity. It would have been fine if they stayed in their lane but the moment they started to Collab with the girls all best were off. When Mori invited them to Collab the right move was to say "No, bitch." And keep the branches separate.

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>>53241637
unicorns you stupid bastard, people who dislike cross-gender collabs... you know... the thing that both tempus and nijisanji do? most people who hate tempus probably hate nijisanji too for the exact same reason

[Anonymous No.]

>>53246036
>track down every time Vespers first suspension was mentioned by them to compare
I got you. A 10 second Youtube search: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2n4LdUqBxRk
Altare mentions multiple times that he can't say anything. Now he says they're choosing not to say anything. You could cope by saying "different choice of words" or you could notice that them having a choice plus the far less aggressive tweet implies it's an issue outside of Cover.
>"For a while" what even is that?
Combined with what I stated above, "for a while" implies even Cover doesn't know how long until the issue is resolved, which makes sense if the issue is unrelated to Cover.
One conclusion that I came to is a stalking incident. Magni went to AX, his face is as much of a secret as Nijisanji being a black company, and it's not exactly a secret he and Vesper aren't very well liked among hololive's more zealous fans. Assuming Vesper was with him or the stalker made claims about him, stalking easily explains everything barring their activities being restricted. That could be Cover forcing them to prioritize the situation over streaming, but that's a weak assumption.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53240218
>/vt/ hates Tempiss
>/vt/ hates NijiCN
>both are dying

[Anonymous No.]

>>53246802
we are healing, who would have thought that male vtubers in the west was just a fad and didn't have the same staying power as their female counterparts? (me, i guessed it)

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>>53241063
>using fucking Sora as a dragging material
>this is the kind of people that tempisshit brought into the hololive environment
you abominations truly need to kys. without her your pathetic faggots wouldn't even exist as vtubers

[Anonymous No.]

>>53246802
-ACK

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>>53241254
what is "all activities stopped" if not suspension? you coping faggots are fucking pathetic

[Anonymous No.]

>>53246972
I can't believe Haachama has been suspended for months... The chinks won in the end...

[Anonymous No.]

>All gfetubers are pickme whores who are cucking you behind the screen and secretly can't help themselves around my superior male vtuber bf no exceptions no question asked
>All activities stopped tweeted by the official corpo account is fucking definitely not a suspension, it just fucking isn't okay.
The absolute state of femcels.

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>>53247237
nta but that's a little different, that was just her which actually implies that she is sick or something, the fact that vesper and magni were announced at the same time sort of implies something more happened because what are the odds that both of them contracted a serious illness that prevents them from using social media in any form? that's a huge coincidence, i don't think any infectious disease in the west has that sort of power, so it'd have to be something bigger, and in that regard that would be a huge coincidence if they both encountered major health problems simultaneously, i'm not saying they're necesarily suspended but they could have gotten in like a car crash or something, hell they could have been arrested, i don't really know but i seriously doubt they're just sick

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>>53247237
ah if your favorite males are definitely not suspended why didn't the corpo account just announce that they're sick just like her then?

[Anonymous No.]

>>53247237
Anon, Haachama is dead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53247350
>>53247385
>illness
>for 5 months
>no official announcement from Cover like they do for every other illness
That's quite the illness, huh?

[Anonymous No.]

Rrats anyone? I'm betting they're just realizing now that they're on a sinking ship and both decide to just go fuck it and pull a 2% insider info to their dramatubers friends

[Anonymous No.]

>>53242935
Take away the money and what are you? Heh, thought so.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53247576
yeah and all activities stopped is DEFINITELY still ISN'T a suspension tho
believe the scenarios in my head instead! also have this hologirl #1 deflection while you're at it

[Anonymous No.]

>>53247649
Yeah it's amazing that this happened RIGHT after both of them had a redesign.
Most likely they expectedt his to save their dying channels instead it did jackshit. At this point they just decided to jump ship.

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>>53243269
Bro, they're the same people that'd readily call Sora a whore for daring to acknowledge Stars exist.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53247649
You aren't in 2022 anymore, anon... Rushia is gone... wake up...

[Anonymous No.]

>>53247798
Uhh?

[Anonymous No.]

>>53247731
>no problem ever announcing a suspension for years
>now suddenly they'll be gone "for a while"
>Yes, yes! These must be the same! The voice keep telling me so!

[Anonymous No.]

>>53246738
Thanks for the link, bear in mind they had the (luxury?) of a far more definitive statement being put out that both outlined what he did wrong (internal misconduct) and allowed them to say for sure when he would be back. Them saying "I can't" in relation to talking about the specifics of his internal misconduct is pretty much expected but I do acknowledge the difference in language between this and Altares talk about it yesterday. I still put it down to the situation being far more unclear and not that it is necessarily less serious but that is a matter of interpretation.
>Your theory
I suppose that could be the case, but that is as much of a rrat as anything else being said in the various catalog threads about this situation and I really don't see how
>stalking easily explains everything barring their activities being restricted
Especially when that also relies on Vesper both being there with him and also being as affected by the incident as he was, layers of assumptions that are no better than the people claiming it might have been a car accident or something.
We can all take our theories and run with them I suppose but the evil unicorn tracking them both down at AX and doing something so heinous that both of their activities need to be stopped by corporate seems VERY unlikely to me.
I am not claiming anything about the specifics of WHAT they did or what happened to them apart from that is was something that got them in enough trouble with cover to have their activities stopped which doesn't need all these extra steps to be true. Let's wait and see anyway or keep having fun creating rrats or coping depending on what you want to happen either is good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53247904
They'll ignore logic, common sense and even their own humanity if its to spite and harm male chuubas.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53247904
yep and announced sickness with several irl friends confirming this is definitely a sneaky suspension...okay...see how your deflection attempts of a narrative are falling one by one? so disingenuous. you're a sad person. just carry on coping nonstop then

[Anonymous No.]

>>53248016
>talking about humanity for the sake of male chuubas on 4chan
sis, genuinely, go back.

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>>53247972
Vesper doesn't necessarily need to be there, per se. If a stalker knew where Magni lived and sent a threat involving him and Vesper, that's cause for concern for both of them regardless of if Vesper is physically present. It's also not much of a stretch considering they're the ones who collab with Hololive the most.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53248175
>No no! You see, inconsistencies with reality can be excused in my rrats but not yours! I'm very intelligent!

[Anonymous No.]

I moved onto small corpos the moment they were announced and I dont regret it one bit.

[Anonymous No.]

>needing to concoct outlandish rrats just to avoid the most likely scenarios

>>53248364
Buy an ad

[Anonymous No.]

>>53248364
Hope you enjoy your graduations 6-12 months after debut. Kek.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53248272
Your stalker fanfiction predicated on nothing more than them collabing with hololive is "not much of stretch" but me saying, "oh they haven't tweeted, streamed or had access to their accounts and we had a statement from hololive corporate to that effect they must be soft suspended pending some kind of investigation" is?
ogey
Cope springs eternal I guess.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53248426
you get used to it. tempus antis in particular usually go crazy with rrats even when there's evidence

[Anonymous No.]

>>53240218
Nijisisters and homo lovers are one and the same

[Anonymous No.]

>>53248627
>You're explaination on why this situation is so different from everything else we've seen so far is "not much of a stretch" but my fanfiction contradicted by years of history is?
Yes. Cope.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53248720
>You're explanation
Minor error, I win. Don't choke on that cope sister.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53248769
>no rebuttal
Concession accepted. Don't burst a blood vessel when they come back, sis. I want to enjoy your seethe

[Anonymous No.]

>>53248634
>you get used to it
But you sweep the podium in mental gymnastics here, anon. An insubordinate is more likely to be guilty of further insubordination than not, yet this isn’t the line of thinking despite being the path of least resistance.

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>>53248627
>have a well-known irl appearance
>be disliked by a cult of weebs
>go to an anime convention
>"nothing more than them collabing with hololive"
lol

[Anonymous No.]

Holocuck rage: the thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>53249164
>an insubordinate is more likely of insubordination than not
>Magni
So we're going to gloss over a pattern Cover has displayed in favor of "this time for sure sisters"

[Anonymous No.]

>>53249395
At least you aknowledge Homoshits and their fans are not Hololive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53249428
Cry cuckie cry

[Anonymous No.]

>>53249474
Sis you should support your homofailures instead of shitposting. This is why they are jumping ship they can't even afford a PS5 kek.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53240033
Why do their models look like that? They've always looked super weird to me. I can't even explain why they just look wrong to me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53249589
Ur still crying. HomoGODs are staying no matter how much you cry and dilate. Also JWNBAW and no holo will ever fuck you

[Anonymous No.]

>>53246498
>https://youtu.be/ZDgXWNDoIj4?t=1073
i thank you, for better or worse, for spending time watching the trash so that i don't have to. i just wish he never, EVER, stooped so low

[Anonymous No.]

>>53249589
How come your whores are begging people to buy their albums, sis? Aren't they supposed to be millionaires?

[Anonymous No.]

>>53247237
>I can't believe Haachama has been suspended for months
What else do you think causes radio silent "health" breaks that go on for months? Sana went radio silent multiple times until her graduation with the RM clearly angry with management for the back excuse. Ina saying that she doesn't like revealing outfits, canceling the rest of her streams for the week, and than going radio silent for months supposedly because of a forgotten work phone. Laplus missing the holoX 3D anniversary collab and immediately needing a 3 month break. Haachama is about to set a new hololive record and even management no longer claims that she went radio silent because of the flu.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53242344
Which one is axel?

[Anonymous No.]

They really got suspended, huh

[Anonymous No.]

>>53249767
>Haachama fucking dies
>Cover remains radio silent to potentially milk her fans of merch money
And here I thought Cover couldn't stoop any lower...

[Anonymous No.]

>>53248228
>disregarding everthing to wish harm onto people who hadnt done anything other than to snap you out of your delusions.

Go neck yourself dick.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53249395
I'm embarassed to share a fanbase with them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53249716
What are you taling about sis. Mori shilling her fucking UMG album? Damn imagine throwing the girl who shilled your homocucks the hardest under the bus. Sisters are truly an ungrateful bunch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53250062
>haven’t done anything
>the cause
>expedited model changes on a preferential bias
>managing to get into hot water twice as one talent in under one year
>NTR cast even being conceived, let alone okayed
>Omega had a lot to do with their promotion

[Anonymous No.]

>>53250133
>NOOOO!!! Stop generalizing all our whores off the actions of one! Only we're allowed to generalize people!!!
lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>53250515
vt>>/wg/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53249421
Yeah, because it’s impossible to be dragged down by being near the menhera man who already got himself suspended for misconduct. Not to mention that Magni isn’t exactly squeaky clean, either.

[Anonymous No.]

from this fiasco, which was inevitable, vesper above all needs to go. he has already demonstrated himself as unstable and cannot be trusted. i don't care if he says eloquent bs like "i have a temper, it was all my fault, i hurt the fans and the ones i work with," because i've seen too many people do the same. he got caught in 4k in the act of being an asshole, and he's sorry that happened, not for his actions. even his japan trip was, timing wise, bizarre. frankly, it was basically the act of a stalker to me. stalking who? go back to that timeframe with VODs.
at this point, if he is allowed back after this suspension, this indicates at least two things: yagoo himself is too forgiving, and that vesper is once again in a position to unleash harm on not only tempus, but holoEN as well.
here's hoping that none of the holomembers share TOO MUCH information with each other about themselves.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53241063
>What is Aloe?
Aloe was not suspended. Next you're gonna tell me Towa was suspended.
>What is Haachama?
Haato was only suspended once, together with Coco.
>What is Sora with her 13 viewer?
This is just sad, beggar.
>What is Hololive CN
Something not even chinks cared about. Chinks loved FBK and Aqua, CNs never drew a dime even from them as confirmed by Yagoo himself. Chinks never begged for JP/CN collabs, they just wanted more JP b*libili streams.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53250568
You will wake up one day, hopefully.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53240033
>first to have a 300 ccv member
2019 Hololive fans are a cancer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53250621
Well that answers my question. We ARE going to gloss over Cover's pattern in favor of "this time for sure, sisters"

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>>53250624
soooooo true sis!

[Anonymous No.]

>>53250728
When I said you took the podium in mental gymnastics, it was slightly meant jokingly, but I’ll have to revise that into fact without alternatives now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53250516
First you're comparing Mori shilling a fucking album signed with UMG to a retard crying for PS5 money like a preteen. Then you're throwing under the bus one of the biggest homo supporters in EN.
Your argument is just retarded honestly.

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>>53250838
>recognizing pattern of behavior is mental gymnastics now
Yes yes, anon. Surely after years, Cover is switching up their behavior now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53250899
>First you're comparing someone begging for money to someone begging for money, then you're using my own logic against me
lol

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>>53246498
This honestly doesn't seem bad, chatters do ask them which way is the best since they want to pay the holo, not youtube. For the girls it never really matters because they have armies of gachikoi paypigs, but these guys are marketed as brotubers so they can't rely on that.

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>>53250960
Ironic given that the pattern you ignore is the one that doesn’t behoove you. Cover never needed to hand out an internal misconduct suspension before, either, but I guess that doesn’t matter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53251066
>these guys are marketed as brotubers

[Anonymous No.]

>>53251066
>marketed as brotubers
uhhh no?

[Anonymous No.]

>>53251102
>but the reason behind the suspension was different than previous ones
Irrelevant. Cover has always been transparent with suspensions, as well as investigations. You're claiming now is suddenly different.

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>>53250624
If they thought ves was stalking people he would be terminated already. Just what the fuck he keeps getting suspended for is a mystery as much as his bizarre trip to japan.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53251054
NTA, but
>contractual stipulation
versus
>I frivolously spend all my money, pay me to do more of this exact thing

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>>53240033
>>first to have two members suspended simultaneously
Miko and Marine were simultaneously suspended over the BL in the fridge incident

[Anonymous No.]

>>53248552
Enjoy your males

[Anonymous No.]

>>53251117
>>53251165
Yagoo's own words, male vtubers marketed to a male audience

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>>53251191
By definition of the vague nature, it is inherently different. Whether this has heavier bearing is left to be seen, but acting as if such cannot possibly be negative is odd.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53251260
you telling me regis was intented for a bro audience?

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>>53251260
Yagoo has created two failed male branches so far so he clearly doesn't know what he's talking about
Not to mention the EN market for brotubers simply doesn't exist and has never existed

[Anonymous No.]

>>53251441
As a fan of Regis, he fills the little brother niche so yeah

[Anonymous No.]

>>53251441
Maybe the kind that forgot they are still men or think only growing a beard can suddenly make you one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53251331
>By definition of the vague nature, it is inherently different
Correct, therefore it's more reasonable to assume it involves something external to Cover rather than the internal conflicts we've seen in the past.

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>>53251459
>Not to mention the EN market for brotubers simply doesn't exist and has never existed
This.
How many times are these CEOs going to fall for the same shit?

[Anonymous No.]

>>53251459
It exists but it has strict criteria to fullfill that no one bothered filling.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53251677
elaborate

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>>53251539
>something external to Cover rather than the internal conflicts
I’m glad they bothered to announce it in their stead, despite generally not doing so under most any other duress (aside from the talent’s elective).

[Anonymous No.]

>>53251706
Traditional brotubers have that image because they spend resources and time to craft that specific image through their content. The easiest way to do this is easily edited Youtube content, not just videogame content, but also hobbyist content. People are more inclined to click a video on Youtube than a stream to begin with and edited content with a script makes crafting your image a way easier endeavour than trying to keep that image up all the time on stream. There is also the fact that a lot of EN VTubers in general don't try to get better at streaming at all. I've seen corpo streamers stay silent for a straight 2 minutes during gameplay which for a streamer is actually a long time. The fact that they don't get better at it and therefore don't make their content better is also a problem.

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>>53251867
>two talents go missing
>reason could potentially indirectly involve Cover
>"Yeah let's not say anything lol"
In my "stalking" theory I mentioned earlier, or a case like them being arrested, obviously Cover will say something while being vague. They're involved even if it isn't direct.

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>>53251533
There is no "little brother niche" for men, not for straight men anyway

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>>53251706
nta but something along the lines of
>advice giver for things like working out or living healthy
>playing games at a hardcore level and giving tips as if teaching someone how to get to that hardcore level
>skits bits and comedy that doesn't go towards sexual innuendos

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>>53252086
Having access to a phone immediately disqualifies arrested theory and Magni has access to his through rm.
Stalking is definitely a possibility though I've never known or been a victim of stalking so I don't know how easy it is to deal with.

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>>53252079
Plenty of fleshtubers that are men streaming for men don't do any edited content at all. The real issue is that straight men don't care about avatars one way or another (there are plenty of successful male streamers that don't do facecam at all or use it sparingly) and gay men prefer fleshtubers. So the only people that care about male cartoons are women and """women""". The only reason it's different in Japan is because people are afraid of showing their face online in general.
If you're a man streaming for a male audience L2D does nothing for you except for driving away the viewers who think anime is cringe.

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>>53252449
I'd wager you're better off as an anime male if you come from any SEA region, nip or chink.
Gooks are still in flesh idol stage but it looks like they're slowly moving over to cartoon stage too.

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>>53252422
I don't seriously believe they were arrested, it's an example of an external conflict Cover would be involved in and choose to make a vague statement. They obviously wouldn't go "Our talents might be criminals but we're going to wait until it's proven before doing anything. Stay tuned! :D" Stalking was what I came to due to how well known his pl his and this happening soon after he went to AX. There's at least dozens of possibilities that could've happened that would lead to the events that we've seen. The only safe assumption is that this is something that hasn't been dealt with before.

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>>53240033
>first to have a member suspended
not true.

>first to be the loud minority of Hololive
really?

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>>53241063
/thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>53251244
They did nothing wrong on Cover's end, hence not real a suspension

[Anonymous No.]

>>53252086
>stalking theory
This isn’t an unprecedented event and is handled internally largely. It took Mel speaking to her experience for Cover to eventually confirm that her incident was real, and was the source of her hiatus. Not even then were they as vague as this, and Mel has no blemishes on her record.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53248627
Hi, Subaraka. Don't you have some reddit people to antagonize instead?

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>>53253014
The difference being Mel is Japanese while Magni and Vesper are not. Cover is able to handle stalking in Japan because they're based there. What is Cover supposed to do for an overseas talent? Pay for a ticket to Japan so they can bunk with someone for a while? Cover can't be open because it could incite the stalker to become more aggressive than something like sending threatening mail. Again, the stalker theory isn't bulletproof, it's just one that explains what we've seen as well as fits the timing.

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>>53249675
>>53249716
>>53250115
>>53250516
>homosisters admitting to nijiniggers
LOL

[Anonymous No.]

>>53251441
Regis was made for faggots and women, same as the rest of tempiss

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>>53253341
>Cover is able to handle stalking in Japan because they're based there
Except for the fact that they didn’t, not in a tangible sense. Getting fired in post did little to change that the manager had already acted on his urges. Still, to bring anything to public attention via announcement is usually quantifiable and succinct, not nebulous.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53240218
>niji is dying
>tempus is dying
>EN3 in the horizon
the world is finally healing bros

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>>53253689
They're still able to handle stalking at home better than overseas. Since her situation, they've gotten better about it, but it doesn't change the fact their hands are tied overseas. Not only that, but in this hypothetical, we're also dealing with an unknown person, not an employee. It's nebulous because the police would have to handle it, and who knows how long that could take.

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>>53253689
what did you want them to do, bust down his door? they don't have the legal capability.

>already acted on his urges.
this makes it sound like he raped her, he didn't actually rape her.

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>>53246887
>without her your pathetic faggots wouldn't even exist as vtubers
Without her, I'd be enjoying something else and you'd still be seething
>>53250626
>Aloe was not suspended
Anon, there was even a tweet from @hololivetv at August 17th 2020
>Haato was only suspended once
She's in suspension period right now
>This is just sad, beggar.
I'm not the one begging for one of your homos to become the first who streamed with 300ccv or below, you do. I'm just stating a fact
>Something not even chinks cared about
And yet at least one of them still tried to grab themselves some free L2D models

[Anonymous No.]

>>53253878
BASED.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53254259
>suspension period
This isn’t Nijisanji.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53254112
*blam blam blam*
COVER HQ OPEN UP!

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>>53254259
>Anon, there was even a tweet from @hololivetv at August 17th 2020
Why don't you link it then or post a screenshot?
>She's in suspension period right now
Not interested in your headcanon
>I'm not the one begging for one of your homos to become the first who streamed with 300ccv or below, you do
Did you have a stroke? What are you talking about and with whom?
>And yet at least one of them still tried to grab themselves some free L2D models
What does that have to do with anything? Again, are you having a stroke?

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>>53254112
Don’t be ridiculous, I’m merely noting that such has happened before.

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>>53254259
>Without her, I'd be enjoying something else and you'd still be seething
Kek

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>>53254439
>Why don't you link it then or post a screenshot?
https://twitter.com/cover_corp/status/1295272073703485440
>Headcanon
Oh, you're one of those people. Why did I even care...
>Are you having a stroke?
No, but I guess you're not interested in that "headcanon" either

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>>53254259
how long have you been camping here replying to people with your full effort copium now? yeah but i'm the one seething. "i'd be enjoying something else" you can't even handle the thought of them getting suspended. you can't be serious.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53249395
>>53249474
dumb fucking whores keep proving this anon right lol >>53247299 so fun to watch

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>>53251260
yagoo's mistake is that he thinks the same thing that has happened with all the girls swooning over kpop "men" is going to happen with the vtuber equivalent. then there's the fact that the female branches are, whether you like it or not, being peddled as ship bait, further increasing the delusion that many of the members are fucking each other in real life. this targets the wallets of those who base their appreciation of their oshii in terms of their personal sexual orientation and preferences. the same is NOT going to happen with the male branches. no matter what the trends are these days, the greater focus with vtubing will always be on female sexuality, not male sexuality.
but it's too late now. tempus is in the way of holoEN's own growth and stability, and the EN managers are importing certain western values that cover is not exactly on board with, but are forced to now that they are in way too deep with tempus. in fact, instead of blaming yagoo alone, i'd say the majority of the blame should fall on EN/tempus management. they have consistently shown themselves to be either absent or incompetent. however, at the end of the day, yagoo did approve of failures like gen1 of tempus.

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>>53256122
>how long have you been camping here
Far less than you do, there's around 5 hours and 30 minutes time period between >>53241063 and >>53254259
Compare that to your 3 hours and 30 minutes time period between >>53246887 and >>53256122
>Yeah but i'm the one seething
You are seething, what was that "kys" for?
>"i'd be enjoying something else" you can't even handle the thought of them getting suspended.
Huh? How did you even reached to that conclusion? Does your train of thoughts belongs to the rejected 7 wonders of the world list?

[Anonymous No.]

>>53240033
I don't care for Tempus either, but the only thing this post proves is that you don't watch Hololive at all. Majority of this list is just flat out wrong.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53240033
Reminder: the fans DEMANDED this

[Anonymous No.]

>>53253878
>EN3 in the horizon

[Anonymous No.]

>>53256679
Sure thing sister

[Anonymous No.]

>>53256679
But anon, when OP says "first" what they truely mean is "first (when the times that came before are excluded)." A common misconception.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53252339
And to had to this, most likely the 3 of them together if you really want to be a """brotuber""" and failing to a single one is litteraly exclufing you. Forever on top of that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53240033
Whatever nijikek

[Anonymous No.]

>>53256571
fine i give up. a simple kys clearly takes way more effort than the literal essays of nonsense you've been rambling on about to several different people for hours now. ya got me there sis i'll worship your embarassment of the male species dramaqweens now
but seriously now, do you even hear yourself? do you even read the shit you're saying here? i genuinely hope you have way too much time on your hands & are just trolling because with the state of this board nowadays i can't even tell anymore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53240033
>first to have a member suspended
that's not correct; did you forget Nene's suspension? Marine's and Miko's?

[Anonymous No.]

>>53240210
Fpbp

[Anonymous No.]

>>53253689
what did you expect them to do? they don't have that much legal capability.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53240033
>first to cause this much drama
Idk about the rest but this is not true lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>53266821
>>53270683
All of them have been done before. OP is just a newfag.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53252339
A brotuber fundamentally can't exist due to point 1.

Men will forgive women as long as they're cute, for a guy, even if he's a top shelf talent, the moment that other men disagree with a take of his, his status is called into question. Or hell, if he's inoffensive for long enough people will probably start to call him a corporate cuck. Male flesh content creators alone largely have their markets driven by parasocial men looking to have their own feelings validated by someone of status.

There is nothing more fundamentally parasocial than male fans of male content creators. This has been true from the very beginning, where men find a waifu in a female vtuber, they're looking for a self-insert in a male vtuber, and any sleight beccomes unforgivable because even anon isn't legion. Look at Vesper alone who's basically targeting the 4chan crowd, no one is disillusioned about what he's doing, we just can't decide whether he's rightfully standing up for himself or if he's just an entitled bitch.

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>>53256203
They’re literally nijisisters lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>53271293
the generalization that men will forgive women as long as they're cute doesn't really apply for all men. cute does not, in any way, do away with retardation and idiocy. just look at bae.
also, vesper is exactly that, an entitled bitch. and he's in a position to ruin lives, which too many of you don't seem to care about.

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>>53240949
Fuck off faggot, YOU are the invading fanbase that's been shitting up vtubing when myth debuted. I fucking hate you simp faggots so much. You act like you're hot shit when you're pathetic tranny adjacent faggots obsessed with girly shit and lose your fucking minds when males show up, to the point that you see everything with them as gay. Tempus is fucking great even with the fag enablers and autismos getting put on break. They make some of the most kino streams and skits, but you fags would rather watch some 2D whores transparently try to wrestle money out of your wallet, the epitome of cuck behavior.

>>53256203
No argument, no proof. Take a shower faggot, inb4 femcel/tranny deflection. I'm a straight male and fucking hate trannies like you obessed with little anime girls. You fuckers ruined my hobby. Shit was better back in the /jp/ days when we made fun of faggots like you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53271293
Do you see how many people shit on woman chuubas. Look at nyanners, people did not forgive her, same goes for mori. If you're that commited to a streamer, them being a cute girl isn't going to do much to mitigate damage.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53274093
>my hobby
You clearly inhale dick, whether this applies to “your” hobby or not is arguable on a case by case basis and always has been.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53256961
I miss old vesper

[Anonymous No.]

>>53240033
>first to have a 300 ccv member
Everything is correct except this. Should have add first EN

[Anonymous No.]

>>53274093
>you fags would rather watch some 2D whores transparently try to wrestle money out of your wallet
As opposed to literally begging for it? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDgXWNDoIj4&t=1073s
Don't act superior you fucking faggot, you expect me to believe are an oldfag watching all the JP's before it got big but all you have to say about watching female vtubers is
>little anime girls
>obsessed with girly shit
>tranny adjacent
>2D whores
So have you been watching guys exclusively since way back when to have this much animosity towards
>girly shit
or what?
>I'm a straight male
Not fooling anyone homo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53251244
>>53266821
Miko and Marine weren't suspended though, there was literally no announcement from Cover that stated they were suspended

[Anonymous No.]

>>53256246
sure thing "businessman" you gonna get a graph out of your ass next? or throw bullshit claims you know nothing about?

[Anonymous No.]

>>53274093
Woah you can literally taste the self-denying homosexuality of this post
You need to go out and find some cuck to suck dude, this ain't the hobby for you

[Anonymous No.]

>>53242750
NTA but people like you running your mouth like you think you know is equivalent to a crazy motherfucker prophesizing on the end of the world while trying to convince you to pay them a dollar or two for food.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53285986
maybe he should beg for money for a PS5 so you know everything's ok

[Anonymous No.]

>>53271293
This was written by some Tempiss member because I can't believe anyone can be this much of a delusional cuck. Like really some of the best kino streams and skits?

[Anonymous No.]

Still zero official update on the situation. I hope gramps is alright...

[Anonymous No.]

>>53293567
Stab wounds or just severe burnout. I'll let you decide

[Anonymous No.]

>>53290838
Shut the fuck up seething 2view

[Anonymous No.]

>>53240210
Fpbp

[Anonymous No.]

>>53274093
shut the fuck up deadbeat
also slit your wrists

[Anonymous No.]

>>53246498
what's wrong with what he's saying everything he says is true?

[Anonymous No.]

I don't watch them and never will and Cover is just gonna have to hold that fucking L directly on their chest. I dropped all the holoEN girls that became their dedicated shills too. Imagine watching a streamer and they shill you some other streamers you already don't give a fuck about and even collab with them. Literally the equivalent of having the streamer play an ad but the ad is them desperately shilling some fucking fags.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53299276
no one asked, faggot

[Anonymous No.]

>>53271293
How wrong you are
Go check elajjaz

[Anonymous No.]

>>53240461
JP stars had 1 public suspension, 1 silent termination, 1 graduation outright because the fag said "i unironically make more money streaming outside hololive" (this is also why magni is not renewing his contract btw, as P**** L*** he gets more views more sponsorship more invites at events more anything so being in Holostars is a fucking waste of time), 1 graduation because the guy was perpetualy ill and they begged complained about the money in general too

[Anonymous No.]

>first to have a member suspended
That's gen 1 with hitomi chris before she got fired
>first to have a member suspended, twice
I think that's actually Vesper yes.
>first to have two members suspended simultaneously
That's gen 4 with coco and haato.
>first to have a 300 ccv member
That'll only true if you don't look at pre 2021 numbers. Some gen0 members, gen1, ID1 and anya used to have even less.
>first to straightforwardly beg for money on stream, risking the brand image as a whole
That's choco but I'll admit that Choco is doing it in a playful way that fits her character while Axel was STRAIGHT UP begging.
>first to cause this much drama
Mori exists.
>first to be the loud minority of hololive
Yeah, I think altare is the only one to straight up bring up retarded American politics. Amazed he didn't get suspended for that one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53240033
It's been a year and catalogue fags legitimately have not recovered from their debut. Holofans really got this mind broken over male streamers it's funny and sad simultaneously.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53302035
So true, my fellow tempusanji sister! Those unichuds are seething so hard right now!

[Anonymous No.]

>>53303017
Most retarded response

[Anonymous No.]

>>53303088
Ehem sis ableism isn’t supporting the cause, maybe go educate yourself and come back a better person?

[Anonymous No.]

>>53240033
They are bad boys.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53303171
Why do you keep making these retarded responses?

[Anonymous No.]

>>53304009
He is making this because first it make a lot of people seethe. And because this kind of thing make so many people seethe, it prove his point.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53304009
Because it's fun and cute when women seethe

[Anonymous No.]

>>53285986
Get used to it

[Anonymous No.]

>>53299276
I googled "who asked" and came with zero results.