/auds/ - VTuber Auditions and Workshop

[idol hopeful !btr76hqMa6 No.]

/auds/ Thread #6 - Time to Submit (Your Application) Edition

Let's discuss our aspirations for VTubing, whether agency-based or something more indie, and help each other grow to hopefully make it as an entertainer. Indies are welcome to join, of course, but try to avoid the common pitfalls that come with being indie.

Stay grounded, but stay hopeful.

Question of the Thread:
Here’s a simple one. How’s your streaming setup like?

Mine’s a 24 inch monitor, a USB mic, and an iPhone on a phone stand. I use a drawing tablet as my second display, which isn’t the best but it lets me read chat.

[Anonymous No.]

>>529133
>single monitor
>USB mic

Ngmi

[Anonymous No.]

>>529133
do you have a channel? may I see it?

[Anonymous No.]

Men should not be vtubers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>529133
Recently upgraded from a usb mic to an XLR mic with a mixer and my god it's so nice. Don't know how I ever could have lived with my usb mic.

[idol hopeful !btr76hqMa6 No.]

>>529818
I only do practice streams.

https://www.twitch.tv/closetfujoshi

Here's my practice channel. I haven't gone live in a while so I'll probably do so today.

[idol hopeful !btr76hqMa6 No.]

>>529803
If you use streamlabs, it has this transparent overlay thing that you can use to view chat while streaming.
>>530280
Is it really that good? I sadly don't have the place for an audio mixer or whatever that's called.

[Anonymous No.]

>>532010
Yeah I got a Go XLR mini because my desk is small too. Also the normal Go XLR is way too fucking expensive. It fits nicely beside my keyboard and the software that came with it gave me a lot of mic tweaking options that I simply didn't have with a usb mic. This of course all depends on how much you spend though, there are a lot of different factors but I am happy with my upgrade.

[Anonymous No.]

>>531844
ok cool

[idol hopeful !btr76hqMa6 No.]

>>532608
Oh, the Go XLR Mini doesn't look too big. What Mic did you get along with it?

I use an Elgato Wave 3 and it comes with some software that mimics what a Go XLR does but in software.

[Anonymous No.]

>>532837
I got a rode procaster. Judging from your streams you sound great already though.
Here is a little comparison from my end:
https://vocaroo.com/1nChgVsxy1wA
https://vocaroo.com/19C292zUbeD8

[Anonymous No.]

>>529133
>Here’s a simple one. How’s your streaming setup like?
Big monitor, I have a cintiq for a second screen, a Rode microphone and a pretty expensive logitech webcam which has worked for prprlive above expectations. Also got an avermedia capture card I haven't touch in a hot second, and it would be pretty easy to set up a TV I already have for console game streaming

[Anonymous No.]

I’ve wanted to start streaming as a vtuber to train my speech skills and it seems like a fun way to do it instead of talking in front of a mirror.
Since I’m not able to spend money at the moment I’ve created a 3D model (male) inside Custom Cast.
What about streaming pirated games? Is there a way someone could tell that a game is legit or not? How is piracy viewed for streamers?

[Anonymous No.]

>>533775
if you don't mention it and your program doesn't make it completely obvious it should be fine

>How’s your streaming setup like?
I have a dual monitor setup with an nvidia 1070. I use the left monitor for OBS and the right for games/whatever program i'm using and it's been working pretty well. I'm using prprlive for my Live2D since i don't have an iphone and its been working pretty well. For voice capture I have a blue snowball mic which picks up almost everything up but setting up noise gate on OBS has helped block out noise from outside my room

[Anonymous No.]

God damn it all. Why did my job have to open back up now of all times?
HoloEN is holding auditions for gen2, even though it's just for females I want to get my foot in the door
but I won't have time to learn Japanese, build my portfolio, and flesh out my character more since now I have to worry about work
fuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>534191
>I want to get my foot in the door
why? because it's trending?

[Anonymous No.]

>>534191
>wont have time to learn Japanese
You should have done that already!

[Anonymous No.]

>>534191
you had plenty of time to learn. Should have done your reps

[Anonymous No.]

>>534221
because I want to be a vtuber. trends be damned.
I want to entertain and connect with people while playing video games

[Anonymous No.]

>>534191
Do you think EN gen 2 is gonna be the end? Do your reps now and get ready for when StarsEN auditions open!!!
I've only been streaming for a week but even so this is better than no progress! Just get started already so you're prepared for the next auditions!

[Anonymous No.]

>>534278
you would have already been a vtuber in the very first place if that were the case. a lot of people think they want to entertain and shit but honestly they just want to get into the trend.

[Anonymous No.]

>>534391
Don't think you know my motives better than I do.

[Anonymous No.]

>>534191
You're never going to make it for EN2. Go use the time now to practice up for Stars.
Even if there won't be, you'll be in a much better position to start vtubing a year later.

[Anonymous No.]

>>533900
so even if I use a cracked version of Live2d I should be safe unless I reveal it myself?

[Anonymous No.]

>>534847
yeah more or less
you don't use live2d when streaming anyways apps like vtube studio or prprlive are what you attach to your model for streaming so no one will actually tell

[Anonymous No.]

As far as specs go, I've got a rather decent setup. I've already been streaming with no facecam for a year now.

Main issue is finding an artist/rigger who's artstyle I like and won't completely drain my savings. I've been lurking Twitter and the Live2D Discord for a while now and haven't been having much luck. Everyone's artstyle is too cutsy looking, or their models don't look very good.

My aspirations aren't particularly high, it's just that since I don't want to show my face, I feel like having an avatar will help add some energy and make it easier to connect with an audience. My voice can only do so much.

[Anonymous No.]

>>535657
have you tried looking at artists on fanbox or skeb?

[Anonymous No.]

Does anybody have experience with Iron Vertex? I understand that each commission will have a different price, but I find it frustrating that they won't even give an estimate on their site. Anybody know what price they usually cap at? I don't want to bother if they are one of those types of artists that charge an extra 200 bucks for adding breathing.

I sent them an email so I'm curious to see if they are actually worth my time or if I should just give in and get some guy off fiver to rig and a twitter artist.

[Anonymous No.]

>>535816
they do highly custom work that varies depending on the complexity, which is why they don't provide quotes, but you're looking at like $1k+ starting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>535856
>but you're looking at like $1k+ starting
That's roughly what I was expecting. I wonder what the price would be looking at if they just rigged my 3 layer model for me

[Anonymous No.]

>>535895
if you've got the .psd files, can't hurt to send them in for a quote and see what they can do for you

[Anonymous No.]

>>535816
>200 bucks
Anon Iron vortex charges on the low end 1k and up

[Anonymous No.]

>>535773
I have not, I've had little experience with those sites, personally. I appreciate bringing those up, now's a good time as any to check them out.

I've heard a little bit about Skeb, but I'm still a little worried that something would get lost in translation. Also, glancing over their English Guide, it seems that the artists retain the rights to the drawing, which kind of demotivates me from relying on Skeb too heavily.

[Anonymous No.]

>>535929
Nah the art isn't done yet. One of the reasons I wanted a quote upfront was to see if I would save money on getting an artist seperately

>>535985
Finish the rest of the sentence, dummy

[Anonymous No.]

>>535816
Aren't iron vertex the top of the line?

[Anonymous No.]

>>536143
for indies, yeah, they're pretty much the best you can get
hololive have their own contracts with rigging companies that they don't disclose

[Anonymous No.]

>>536143
Yeah. I was asking fully aware of that though.
Getting my delayed stimulus check and tax return at the same time so I think I might bite the bullet

[Anonymous No.]

>>412220
Posting a link to a potentially useful thread that unfortunately dropped into the archive too soon

[Anonymous No.]

Is the Live2D 'module' for Facerig the same as the iPhone version? If I got it, would it be equivalent to the OG version, and more importantly would I be able to commission Live2D artists to make a rig that works with it, or are the app and desktop program different?

[Anonymous No.]

Do you think there would be any interest in using vtubers for niche traditional youtube topics?

If, for example, somebody were to use a cartoony (non anime) mario-esque vtuber to deliver Nintendo news. Is there a market for that? Or does the simple sight of vtubers alienate too many potential fans?

[Anonymous No.]

What was that one live2d software that's better than Hololive? I remember seeing a video one time and it had support for pinning objects on you but I forgot the name. I'm not looking to use it, I'm just a curious enthusiast.

[Anonymous No.]

>>536481
The more niche the more chance for success honestly

[Anonymous No.]

>>536658
>live2d software that's better than Hololive
terminology is a bit confusing here

Live2D is the software that's used to create the rigging on 2D assets. Face Tracking programs are the ones that use the rigs on those to copy your movements in front of the webcam.

hololive is a company. the software they use is proprietary and no one knows exactly what it is/does other than that it's iphone based.

there's a couple of face tracking software

3D
Wakaru
VSeeFace

2D
FaceRig (discontinued)
Animaze (FaceRig's successor, has Live2D support natively)
PrprLive
3tene

[Anonymous No.]

>>536881
Homie you seem to know what's up, can you answer me >>536320 ?
>FaceRig (discontinued)
But I already bought Facerig and the Live2D module a couple months ago, are you telling me that I have to now get a new and apparently super-nickel-and-dimed new program?

[Anonymous No.]

>>536881
I see, thank you for the clarification. I'm guessing PrprLive is the one I'm trying to remember? Can't find the video itself but I'm sure it will show up. When I said "pin" I meant that you can attach new parts to your rig on the fly and have it follow your movements.

[Anonymous No.]

>>536481
>for example, somebody were to use a cartoony (non anime) mario-esque vtuber to deliver Nintendo news.
we have those already and people hate them

[Anonymous No.]

>>537177
Like what? I was just using Nintendo as a broad recognizable example

[Anonymous No.]

>>537198
https://twitter.com/GaijinGoombah

[Anonymous No.]

>>536986

Not him, but Facerig/Animaze is very resource-hungry, as you might have discovered if you actually made the mistake of buying one or subscribing for the other. Plenty of freeware programs for PC exist that work just as well, or better, with little overhead, many of which are listed by that poster.

[Anonymous No.]

>>529133
Unless I go the mspaint route, how much does the character and rigging cost? Also, can you use download some sort of motion sensor program that'll follow your movements, or do you need to wear something to do that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>537227
Kek. I'd hardly use Gaijin Goomba as a good example given his personality. Regardless, he's got a following big enough to prove that there IS an audience for such a thing

[Anonymous No.]

>>537296
I've been doing research for a few days, and it's literally between 50 to over a thousand dollars with the quality usually scaling properly.
>Also, can you use download some sort of motion sensor program that'll follow your movements, or do you need to wear something to do that?
Thats all done automatically though a webcam. At least the face and shoulders are. Any full body stuff would require a motion capture suit hypothetically, or an elaborate VR setup

[Anonymous No.]

>>536986
facerig will still work, but like other anon said, it's pretty old and resource hungry.

>>536320
sorry, i'm not familiar enough with the iphone modules to know this for sure.

[Anonymous No.]

>>537227
I forgot this dude existed. I'm now reminded of his existence. Fuck.
>Apparently slows down the release schedule that caused the algo to spit him at the top of childrens' feeds
>"WAAAH YOUTUBE ISN'T RECOMMENDING ME ANYMORE BECAUSE MY CONTENT DELIVERY IS SLIPPING AND IT DETECTS THAT I'M RECLINING"
>Pic related
Dude seems kinda insufferable.
Also, does he really count as a "Vtuber"? Unironically asking. He has an avatar, yes, but it's just a static png with a bunch of different expressions he'll cut between. And it's not even, like, the whole video.

[Anonymous No.]

>>537447
>>537227
Arlo is more of a vtuber than he is

[Anonymous No.]

There's a discord for male /vt/: https://discord.gg/QkS4HfYZ

Quiet at the moment, but I imagine someday it won't be.

[Anonymous No.]

>>537535
Don't do that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>537538
We do it once a week. Nothing wrong with that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>537535
People don't come to 4chan to be redirected to another forum. If I was interested in the vtuber discord, I would have searched it out

[Anonymous No.]

>>537535
>discord

[Anonymous No.]

Anon that was rigging the bear loli here, how do I test an avatar without a webcam?

[Anonymous No.]

>>537535
>male /vt/
no

[Anonymous No.]

>>537535

[Anonymous No.]

>>537606
1) get some money
2) buy a webcam

[Anonymous No.]

>>537621
I didnt want to
fuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>537581
The point is, the random discord you search out will be full of faggots. This one is /vt/

[Anonymous No.]

>>537635
Good bait, have another (You).

[Anonymous No.]

>>537254
>Facerig/Animaze is very resource-hungry, as you might have discovered if you actually made the mistake of buying one
Yes... I had noticed that. I guess with all these free programs available, literally nothing to lose trying them, right?
>>537392
Granted, I'm just asking generalist questions now, but
>sorry, i'm not familiar enough with the iphone modules to know this for sure.
suggests you still have familiarity IN GENERAL with Live2D. I don't really "get" how it works. So is there, like, a specific project file format that any "Live2D-compatible" program would be able to load? Like how when I make music using my DAW of choice, the project file itself is theoretically just a bunch of instructions on what plugins to load where and what midi sequences to put with what instruments, etc., but I can ONLY open it with FL, or a theoretical program that can open FL project files.
Or are animated 2D avatars kind of generic across the... industry? I guess? where all programs are able to and do use the same files.

[Anonymous No.]

>>537692
It isn't bait. I don't think male vtubers can just expect to appear out of thin air and get attention. They should be able to network. If we aren't networking others will.

[Anonymous No.]

>>537391
could a webcam get the arms, fingers, and hands correct?

[Anonymous No.]

someone post the cringe panties on face thot audition I need a reference for what not to do

[Anonymous No.]

>>537920
Definitely not hands and fingers but MAYBE arms? I think most people who do arm stuff just pre-animage a handful of gestures and bind them to keys

[Anonymous No.]

>>537985
Pre-animate***

[Anonymous No.]

I don't want to be a vtuber but a parent artist, but it looks pretty hard to achieve as a non-japanese

[Anonymous No.]

>>538140
post art

[Anonymous No.]

>>538182

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>>537883
from what I can tell from vtubing (having commissioned models and not actually programmed them myself), i belive live2d models all seem to work under the ,json file type though someone more well versed can tell me if i'm wrong or not.
I stream with my live2D using prprlive because i only have a webcam and no iphone so I can't use vtube studio which apparently has really good face tracking and is tempting me to get a new generation iphone,

>>537606
based on what i've seen from other riggers, i've seen that its possible to make mouse tracking live2D models; you could probably find a way to convert a mouse tracking to face tracking but i cannot help you with that

[Anonymous No.]

>>537883
oh, if you're talking about file formats, the model is make in .moc and almost all facetracking software will read that. motion is in a separate .mtn format, and if you have unique specs, they're usually set in a separate .json file

[Anonymous No.]

>>538140
Nah man there is a huge market of up and comers who prioritize english speaking artists for convinience

[Anonymous No.]

>>536658
>>536881
>>537077
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vs7yKb_2Fk0
Found it, thoughts on this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>538389
cute/10
could probably do some fun viewer rewards with things like that to make your streams more engaging

[Anonymous No.]

>>529133
Two 24" monitors and I'm getting a modmic + some proper headphones instead of these beaten-up A40s.

[Anonymous No.]

>>538250
>>538290
Yeah, basically the reason I'm asking/sperging out so much about models/formats is because I'm earnest enough about my efforts to actually piss away money trying to go all-in on my efforts, but I'm worried about commissioning art for program X and it turns out that program Y is better but doesn't use the same files as X.

[Anonymous No.]

>>538659
if you're getting art commissioned for live2D rigging, just make sure you let the artist know ahead of time.

a lot of artists just do flat works, where everything is on a single layer. artists who do Live2D ready pieces need to separate out all the moving parts on their separate layers (hair, eyes, mouth, etc.) some Live2D riggers offer services to pull those apart and fill it in, but it's often much more expensive since you're basically paying the rigger to set up the 2d assets on their own on top of the whole rigging job.

but yeah, any model rigged in Live2D will be useable with all tracking software compatible with Live2D since it's the industry standard. as for which face tracking software, almost all of them come with free avatars and assets that you can test out. iirc, the Live2D website even has sample models that are pre-rigged that you can import to any compatible face tracking software.

[Anonymous No.]

>>538659
Like what >>538775 said, its not uncommon to have a separate artist and live2D rigger. What I did was contact the rigger first and they gave me their guidelines. Once I had those set out, I had my artist send me the sketch of the character to which i sent to the rigger who labeled the sketch out in how the layers should be set out and then the artist finished the drawing
this did cost extra though because the artist wasn't comfortable with setting things up like that but i was fine with paying that.
its also important to know what program the rigger is working with; i know mine was testing everything in prprplive so that's what i used

[Anonymous No.]

>>539218
Is this the normal procedure? Artist and rigger are different people? I've been doing some light shopping around, seems like some try to do both, others will advertise that they rig then specifically reference a specific artist (presumably a friend/colleague).

[Anonymous No.]

>>529848
You should not be alive, but we can't all have what we want.

[Anonymous No.]

>>533384
>https://vocaroo.com/19C292zUbeD8
Asian reporter Tricia Takanawa?

[Anonymous No.]

I'm an unapologetic babiniku who's saving for a much better model. I'm worried that my avatar and the next one coming being anime girls will make people feel jebaited when in reality I just like the way they look and don't want to show my ugly hideous face anyway. Is it advisable to tag yourself as a male vtuber or something in the interest of not making my audience feel bait-and-switched? I just wanna play and talk about good vidya with the internet

[Anonymous No.]

>>539327
I don't know if its normal or not, but the person I got to do the rigging is someone who i had been following for a while, and had opened up commissions for a lot of different kinds of live2D modeling with "rigging completed art" being one of them.
some artists will be able to to both, some people can do just the riggings, and some artists aren't familiar with drawing for live2D so you have to take those factors into consideration when you communicate with the people you're commissioning.

[Anonymous No.]

>>539327
iono if there's a "normal" procedure for this since it's so soon, but often times, artists won't be Live2D riggers (and vice versa). the reason for separate artist and riggers might just be as simple as you liking the art style of an artist, but they don't do Live2D rigging, so you need someone else to do that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>536881
Code miko uses this software in unreal engine for her 3D face tracking https://www.unrealengine.com/en-US/blog/new-live-link-face-ios-app-now-available-for-real-time-facial-capture-with-unreal-engine

Here's a video of the application in use on the official unreal engine channel https://youtube.com/watch?v=R3c4WjSFXJg


Also I've never tuned in, but apparently she also does tech demos sometimes explaining how her set up works. If you plan on using a 3D model I would highly suggest looking at her VODs, she was some CGI artist or computer engineer for disney or pixar or something I can't remember exactly. All of her tech demo's are out of character and are usually at the end of her stream incase you need help find them through her VODs, I think she also tweets about them aswell so if you can find out the dates of when she tweeted about a Tech demo it'll make finding them on twitch's dogshit archiving easier.

[idol hopeful !btr76hqMa6 No.]

>>539420
The only people that care about irl gender are 4channers. Over here in Asia, Japan, and perhaps the rest of the anglosphere, we do not mind.

You’ll be fine. Tomari Mari, Note Mama, they’re both babiniku and I love them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>539516
that's pretty sweet anon, i hadn't really followed code miko.

[Anonymous No.]

>>539437
Ah, so it's more like >>538775 said, where the 'extra steps' needed on the art itself are something where some artists already know what to do/have experience, and can create the necessary extra parts/layers, and the recommendations from riggers isn't so much a subtle plug to their buddies, so much as a "hey, this person actually has experience and is more likely to be able to help you/us."

[Anonymous No.]

>>535556
Is PrprLive any good?

[Anonymous No.]

Jesus the GoXLR is expensive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>537535
While I think males need support, it is best to get tips from already established names like Eisu, Pending, Deat, or Kongou.

[Anonymous No.]

>>539549
Thanks OP that puts my mind at ease. I haven't been growing for shit yet and the viewers I get were always silent lurkers who'd just bounce.
More on topic, I just have two monitors, USB mic with a really nice arm I found on amazon and a few acoustic panels. Whole setup's probably worth $150, really wasn't bad at all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>539549
Broad generalization and I disagree entirely.

[Anonymous No.]

>>538140
If you are able to produce the quality that Pigeon Child or Valefor can, you'll have people banging on your door to get a model.

[Anonymous No.]

>>539579
I've only done about four streams so far but have been messing around with it for a bit on and off stream
base prprlive has good motion tracking but i've personally had problems with the eye tracking, which looks incredibly shaky. however, the game animoji dlc completely fixed that for me so if the free version is giving you problems, the dlc should fix that
HOWEVER: if you're like me and plan on having a separate steam account for your vtuber that you family share with: prpr is counted as software, so while you can run that and a game on steam at the same time, the dlc doesn't carry over through family sharing so make sure you buy it on the vtuber account so that you don't make the mistake that i made and end up having to buy it twice

[Anonymous No.]

>>539420
You could put babiniku in your profile description, if you'd like.

[Anonymous No.]

What pc specs would be good to stream games at 1080p 60fps? I've been building a pc and literally have not secured a GPU in months, I was thinking about getting a 3060ti but might have to settle for an older card like 1050ti

[Anonymous No.]

>>539561
She's definitely unique because her tech is so advanced since she worked at some tech company. Her interviews are also funny and they've been described by a lot of people as having an Adult Swim vibe similar to space ghost or Eric Andre. The problem with her is she kept doibg 3-5 interviews a day 7 days a week and kept repeating some jokes and funny bits to the point that they became unfunny. I still think she has a lot of talent and will probably get back in her groove though.

https://clips.twitch.tv/MoralEsteemedDogeBibleThump

[Anonymous No.]

>>539941
Depends on the games you play, and if you've got a powerful enough CPU to offload the encoding onto.

[Anonymous No.]

What would be the cheapest/most cost effective way to soundproof (or at least insulate) my bedroom? Share a wall with the next door apartment's master bedroom (presumably, one of their bedrooms at least) and despite the "haha funny loud obnoxious neighbor" trope, I wanna minimize impact on them.
also I wanna be a singing streamer but am self conscious about people hearing my voice and knowing it's me

[Anonymous No.]

>>539966
I have a Ryzen 5600x, I'd mostly play games like Team Fortress 2 or Starcraft 2 and Killing Floor 2 which aren't too demanding by today's standards. I mainly wanted to get a 3000 series gpu since my monitor runs at 1080p 165hz so I'm hoping to reach that framerate.

[Anonymous No.]

>>539740
Deat's still alive?

[Anonymous No.]

>>540145
I've got a 144Hz monitor and I'm still running an R9 290 from almost 7 years ago, which has no trouble hitting that with older non-demanding titles. Since you've also got 12 threads to spread the workload over you'll probably be fine with anything faster than a 1060.

[Anonymous No.]

>>540137
I'm also interested on this

[Anonymous No.]

>>540137
i'm not a heavy musicfag but i've participated in enough ensembles to know that padding on the walls can help with the absorption of sound so you can probably search up "acoustic padding" for actual padding but if you're really cheap i know that you can also hang up blankets on your walls as a substitute
someone can call me out if i'm full of shit though but i'm pretty sure it should be serviceable

[Anonymous No.]

>>540137
>>540306
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pABvTWSxOes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qczNxoG8s6o
Got some upholstery foam, or a bunch of old towels lying around?

[Anonymous No.]

>>540405
No and no.
Though that first video has me wondering... Would those mattress topper things be effective? Relatively cheap for the size, and their shape is kinda sorta the right one for baffling...

[Anonymous No.]

deciding on five minutes of material is harder than I thought it would be

[Anonymous No.]

>>540405
Thanks bro. All i really need to soundproof is the door, the walls are thick enough for it to not be a problem

[Anonymous No.]

>>540458
Samefag, probably should have watched the whole video. My bad.
But also when he tested them, he tested them with the shaped side up. Is it not feasible that it would work better with the "mounds" facing the sound source? Just thinking of any time I've seen depictions of sound proofed or... Ano-whatever the word is for "silent" rooms, the shapes face inward, and with a surface understanding of wave propagation I would think this has something to do with the shape catching and spreading out the sound waves?

[Anonymous No.]

Seen a few people in these threads confused about tracking, types of tracking, Live2D etc. I'm no expert but I'll try to share what info I have.

For 2D,

For 2D, a character is drawn across multiple layers. It can be as simple as eyes, mouth, hair, etc, or as complex as having hundreds of layers. Price varies based on this and the skill of the creator. Creating it is EXTREMELY tedious and artists' prices have been steadily going up for this due to that, and odds are if something is too cheap it's low quality so be sure to check their past works. After that, a Live2D rigger (sometimes the same artist) pust these into Live2D and rigs it to move. It could be simple as left to right, or partial XYZ axis (think Marine Senchou's, which is amazing in its own right due to that hat!). Emotions and faces and really anything you can think of CAN be added but it needs to be something communicated with the artist ahead of time. If you're interested in gimmicks, check out Valefor. As far as software goes, there's PrprLive, Animaze/Facerig (both use a Webcam), and my personal favorite VTube Studio which I think is the best as far as amateur stuff goes but it's pretty much only for iPhone X's. Look into those programs if you'd rather go the 2D route.

[Anonymous No.]

How does being a pngtuber work? I downloaded OBS Studio, but I'm a tech-illiterate moron. I'd like to get at least to the level of Corpse or Little S in terms of expressiveness.

[Anonymous No.]

>>540589
From what I can tell the "double layer egg sponge" had the bottom one facing the source, and had a decent effect. Nowhere near the stacked towels though.
The insulation/rockwool panels in the second video are even better, so that'd be preferable if you can get your hands on it for cheap. If not, do what he suggests in the first video and buy a bunch of old towels from a thrift shop.

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>>540721
when you go to add a source, slap your game in there. then create a new source with your png, and then make sure it's on top of the game source.

[Anonymous No.]

>>540774
That will be useful later, but I meant "How do I toggle between various pngs to produce pseudo-animation?".

[Anonymous No.]

>>540622
For 3D here's your main options.

As far as obtaining a model goes, you can hire a legit 3D modeler (usually the most expensive route, but the highest quality and the most customizable), hire a VRoid artist (quality GREATLY varies. I know you guys hate Twitch, but really it's best to check out VTubers there that use Vroids and just find out who their artist is if you like it), or use existing assets if you're well versed enough in another modeling program and Unity(MMD, game assets etc)

For 3D VTubing the only two I really see anyone talk about are VSeeface (a great program made by an EN vtuber community member) and SUVA (Used by Zentreya, Silvervale, and similar VTubers you see with extremely good tracking.

Vseeface has a lot of documentation so I won't bother going in to that here, just check it out for yourself. It's usually what indies are using if you see them with a 3D model, maybe maybe VirtualMotion capture but VSeeface has some kind of face-learning stuff built into that that will be used soon for VTube studio's new webcam version.

SUVA on the other hand has very little and requires HTC Vive or Valve Index Baystations as well as HTC Vive Trackers, but offers amazing tracking. The application was apparently made by a VRChat player as a means for them to stream with their avatars so that's why you don't see it as often, as the trackers have very little use outside of that game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>540862
oh, you're gonna need some separate software for that, i'm not sure what you'd use though, sorry.

i know a jpvtuber does something like that, but she never really explains the program she uses.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCD8i-h5iqOaysEkDnF1CQ_A/videos

[Anonymous No.]

>>540862
I mean, you don't really, most just wait til they have an animated model. Theoretically you could do it via hotkeys I guess? But it's honestly not really worth it imo

Setting Image Sources 0, A, B, C, D, and E all Grouped together and swapping between them via hotkeys. Source 0 would be your default one, just a pic of you. The rest would be emotions. Happy, Sad, Angry, Excited, etc.

You set up hotkeys within OBS Studio (or streamlabs but I don't recommend using that program, you'll swap anyway if you get even remotely serious about vtubing as a hobby) that turn off Image source 0 and turn on Image Source A. It should swap instantly but you might need to make it so they're always loaded in even while toggled off, you can check the individual image source's settings for that I can't really be assed to open my OBS right now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>540987
Oh fuck, actually I think I know what she's using. I forgot all about that. Hopefully you can work a translator or have done your JP reps.

https://twitter.com/96ENU/status/1315154642532093953?s=19

[Anonymous No.]

>>540862
a lot of holos have used this in discord calls to show when their collab partners are talking but if you're sitting alone in a discord you can utilize this feature to at least have animation between talking and not talking:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_GHGxZoahQ
but like others have said, if you have hotkeys you can set them to different expressions as well

[Anonymous No.]

>>541081
good god this takes pngtubing to a new level. thanks for the share, anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>541022
Thanks for the help! I'll try to read through the wiki as well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>540895
How do you find legit 3D modelers? Artstation I'm assuming? I've browsed that site before looking for people who have lots of anime models in their portfolio's and I only found a couple who do models outside of shonen trash or cutesy uwu like anime aesthetics.

Also what is the price range that we're looking for in a 3D model done by a professional? I know Melody paid around $2200 for her model because the guy wanted to be her manager and she said no so I doubt that I'll get a price as low as that, right...?

[Anonymous No.]

>>541146
That video is how I discovered OBS Studio in the first place. I was able to fumble around to make it work for a bit, but I forgot what I did correctly and what I did wrong.

I plan on having several separate avatars. One will be for my Discord friends, one will be for videos (and maybe live streaming, if I can find a work-around for the audio), and one will be for testing concepts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>541383
Unironically, ask the furry community in VRChat. Models can be expensive, but you can get quality animations and textures with the right artist.

[Anonymous No.]

>>541383
Twitter and Artstation honestly, it's really about shopping around but right now it's hard because the more known ones are full, but if you find one ask for a waitlist, worst they can do is say no!

Melody paid about 5k, which I'd say was ridiculously cheap for what the intended purpose was even with the drama aside but I won't get too into that.

I see them as cheap as a few hundred dollars. Some of the best sources for finding VTuber artists and modelers come from Twitter. Best I can tell you is check out VTubers you like and find who they used. Assuming you want a male character, it's a bit harder because a lot of the time people advertising VTuber 3D models are doing so to an clientbase that's mostly girls who want cute things, similar to how a lot of popular artists only ever draw women. It never hurts to ask.

[Anonymous No.]

>>541383
Given how expensive it would be, you're better off learning to make it yourself. Then, you can sell models to people more lazy than you!

[Anonymous No.]

>>541674
Most 3D indie vtubers you see probably paid less than 2k for their model, more than likely even under 1k. The most expensive indie I can think of are probably people like Zentreya, Silvervale, Iron Mouse, and anyone else with a model from the creator JJinomu. They've cahrged anywhere between 600 and 1,200 depending on what their prices were.

[Anonymous No.]

>>535816
you can literally just DM the iron vertex twitter. their prices went up. quoting, "On a general level, our models are 1500$ - 3500$ USD the fee does not include the illustration."

[Anonymous No.]

>>542421
How do I say this without seeming like too much of a freeloader... while I absolutely understand and support the idea of supply and demand, and I don't particularly mind if the really good creators start pumping up their prices, it is ever so slightly frustrating that, because Vtubing has been on the incline, Live2D artists are now comfortable with raising their prices more and more because for every poorfag filtered out, they'll get some vtweeter paypig who never ends up using the model shelling out however much they ask for.
Shit like this just makes me think that we're gonna reach a critical mass where the ONLY new people that aren't debuted with an agency that actually covers the cost themselves will be passionless dickheads who just happen to have the money to blow on a L2D model. By that point, the bubble will have burst once and for all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>542421
>"On a general level, our models are 1500$ - 3500$ USD the fee does not include the illustration."
Jesus fuck. Is there ANY Live2D model worth 3500 for the rigging alone? That's absolutely insane

[Anonymous No.]

>>542570
you have to consider that there will also be riggers and artists looking to get into this also trying to be competitive with prices so its entirely possible that you'll be able to find someone able to make a passable enough model for a starting 2d/3d rig

[idol hopeful !btr76hqMa6 No.]

>>542601
Artemis’ model must’ve been pretty expensive. Hers was done by Iron Vertex and it’s incredibly good.
>>542570
I personally hope that there are some advances happen with Live2D in a way that reduces the barrier to entry. Do remember that there are cheaper artists too, but they’re usually very booked and their art style might not be the most unique.

[idol hopeful !btr76hqMa6 No.]

>>542699
I think I had a stroke with my English there. You know what I mean though. Was it Nijisanji that said everyone eventually will have a virtual avatar?

[Anonymous No.]

>>542741
>Was it Nijisanji that said everyone eventually will have a virtual avatar?
This honestly feels like just a more generic futurism take, DesuBH. The concept of having a permanent avatar bound to your online self is as old as the public internet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>538191

[Anonymous No.]

watching aruran's stream and looking at his live2D i'm feeling more reassured about the choices i made in getting my live2d
his still looks nice while not being as mobile as a lot of the other holos
i paid like 400 for my live2D but from what i've see from artists, it looks like if you took the time to learn the program you could very quickly get a model that functions as well as his does which i'd say is a pretty good benchmark of quality to be aiming for in a model

[Anonymous No.]

>>543177
ironically his model only seems to be mobile on other people's streams, I think his settings are messed up or something

[Anonymous No.]

>>542570
If they are passionless dickheads then they won't make it. Even if they make it far initially, they will crack sooner or later and the viewers will see through the bullshit, just like they can see through Artemis now. The bubble will burst and they will realize they wasted a shit ton of money for no return.
So, where on the graph to you think we are?

[Anonymous No.]

>>534191
https://en.hololive.tv/audition
"You have a proven track record for content distribution (including, but not limited to, games, songs, and illustrations)."
You better start building your portfolio as a content creator right about now if you want to have a chance to be accepted in future gens. And when you will audition, you will compete against a thousand others doing the same as you.
Don't delude yourself, you weren't going to make it in this gen and feeling bad for yourself is not going to chance anything. Do I have to remind you that S had about a million subscribers as a vtuber BEFORE auditioning for hololive and becoming Gura?
Stop daydreaming and start playing the long game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>543836
retarded take, ignore it, deadbeats. listen to Mori, stop tweeting, start creating

[Anonymous No.]

>>543177
and amelia?

[Anonymous No.]

>>543407
I'd say right about here, the very beginning of the bull trap. First real spike was caused by the coof combined with the flurry of memeclips that people watched because they had nothing better to do and/or were desperate for some sort of happy escape. I honestly think we're gonna see the peak over the course of this next year, between NijiEN debuting whenever, EN2 coming out, outside chance of new branches appearing in new countries for one of the major agencies (SK seems the most likely, yeah?), the first year of new kids on the block like VShojo, and... I unfortunately predict a massive crash by the end of this year.
Longs will hold chuubas for fundamentals, everyone else who FOMOed will get bored and move onto whatever the next big thing is. Same as happened to HAHASOFUNNY Let's Plays, then facestreamers in their own times.

[Anonymous No.]

>>543999
Nice trips, me.
Also fucking tard that I am, replaced my topical picture with a random gif, so here's what I meant.

[Anonymous No.]

>Vtube studio
>Prprlive
Which is better in your opinion?
I've only tried Vtube studio so far, don't have a webcam and don't want my face ever appearing on my pc side so the disconnect between my phone and it sending pure non image data to my pc is comforting

[idol hopeful !btr76hqMa6 No.]

>>544046
If you’ve got an iPhone, then VTube Studio. Otherwise whichever’s fine.

[Anonymous No.]

>>543871
Stop tweeting, start creating is what I just said. And what many wannabe vtubers don't realize is you don't start at the mountain top with Mori, and a few limpwristed swings won't quickly get you there. You start at the bottom just like she did and fight your way to the mountain top just like she did and THEN you can challenge her.

[Anonymous No.]

just got an interview email cya later suckers

[Anonymous No.]

>>544074
The thing I forgot to add before pressing post, I don't have an iphone so my tracking is shit and I don't wanna drop a big investment on anything yet
Can you get great tracking with a relatively cheap webcam compared to an iPhone with Prprlive? Is there inbuilt protections to make sure no face never appears?

[idol hopeful !btr76hqMa6 No.]

>>544086
Good job anon, good luck. I’ll be rooting for you!

[Anonymous No.]

>>544081
retarded take, ignore it, deadbeats. listen to Mori, stop tweeting, start creating

[Anonymous No.]

>>540137
>the cheapest
Get some egg cartoons out of the trash of every store you can and pin them with tape in every unoccupied space of your walls, and maybe on the ceiling, too.
Use the reminder of the tape to cover the frames of your windows and doors, replacing it whenever you open them.
There's the cheapest way to soundproof your room. Not the best of them, but still effectively, considering you're just buying a tape and using garbage.

I learned about that when I was 7 and I can't believe I finally have a use for it.

[idol hopeful !btr76hqMa6 No.]

>>544103
Probably! It can get decent even without an iPhone. Just avoid facerig.

[Anonymous No.]

>>544086
please be a jork
I get the feeling I’m going to be taking an L with my application but it’s still going to make me so sad lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>544247
im sorry anon, but it was a joke

[Anonymous No.]

>wear a certain costume for shits and giggles
>it starts to grow on me
shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>546629
>She stops wearing it because it's too old and/or she got new outfits
Friend's 2020 new year outfit...

[Anonymous No.]

>>543836
I KNOW I'm not going to get in, retard. In case you didn't know, EN is for females only
What I want is to at least get an app to them. Let them know that there are EN males that want to work with them, that they should do Holostars EN
If they see it, great. If they don't, oh well.

And stop posting wojaks, this isn't /v/ you brainless ape.

[Anonymous No.]

>>543999
Are facestreamers really a good comparison? Having a facecam is basically standard for all streams now, so I wouldn't really say there was a big crash or it was FOMO.
Beyond that, I think the inevitable crash is going to hit indies way harder than big company chuubas. By the time the crash hits the big names will have been established enough to just continue as they have been. People like holoEN, presumably nijiEN, Vshojo, and other large indies will be fine. Personally I think big companies will continues to release new waves of chuubas, even beyond the crash. The real suffering will be the small indies who see their viewership drop to single digits as FOMO dies off and they're put back in the realm of "regular" new twitch streamers and have to agonizingly work back up. I expect many of them to quit after the drop

[Anonymous No.]

>>543407
The entire business model is designed around people spending a shit ton of money for no return.

[Anonymous No.]

>>549083
Isn't all streaming that business model though? Unless you're trying to argue that the entire streaming market is in a bull trap

[Anonymous No.]

>>549099
Yes, at least with the real thing you can see some actual T&A though instead of some tubby tranny or old lady in a tracking suit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>549156
If it's all about T&A then why are the biggest western streamers consistently male? Frankly with the growing number of people who lack any social capabilities streaming will continue to grow as it fills a need for human connection in those too autistic to get it naturally

[Anonymous No.]

>>549194
Well, before it took off selling friendship to underage kids male youtubers made money mostly showing their body too.
Not to mention that most of them are still conventionally attractive and/or fit.
I guess maybe there could eventually be a vtuber Asmong though, where the appeal is watching a guy more of a loser and inept than you no matter how much money or time to practice a skill they have.

[Anonymous No.]

Does anybody know any riggers with open commissions that specialize in XYZ movement?
My model is essentially only two or three layers since he's wearing a face-covering helmet, so to make up for the lack of dynamic parts I want my general movement to be as convincing and animated as possible.

On a related note, how essential is having extra drawings for convincing turning? Should I ask my artist to include an extra profile drawing/45 degree drawing for the rigger to use?
The rigger I was talking to said it wouldn't make a difference and he probably wouldn't even use extra drawings if supplied, but that could just be because he was only charging 50 bucks off Fiver

[Anonymous No.]

>>529848
To be fair I already have this stuff for voice-over/VA work

[Anonymous No.]

>>544103
I got a webcam for work purposes that i think was around 60 or 70 dollars? I don't think you need a particularly good one as long as it can read your face
prprlive has the option to not show your camera on the application itself, but regardless when you set prprlive as a source in obs it reads it as a virtual camera without any of the programs interface overlaid so even though I've never clicked hide camera it never shows up

[idol hopeful !btr76hqMa6 No.]

>>550282
I don’t think 3 layers will get you much movement at all. The way the live2d illusion works is through parallax and some of the better models have over 100 layers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>551658
So what would you recommend? I'm in a bind then because I don't really know how many layers I can possibly add to a single helmet, ya know?

[idol hopeful !btr76hqMa6 No.]

>>551680
I recommend downloding one of the free Live2D models, as well as Live2D Cubism, and then studying how they work. You’ll be able to understand how layers work and which ones you need for the kind of movement you like.

[Anonymous No.]

>>551750
>>551658
Here's a very early draft of what I'm going for. Would making things like the visor and different parts of the helmet seperate layers make turning more dynamic? Or again, seperate drawings for a turned head?
I appreciate your advice because I really struggle with understanding rigging at all

[Anonymous No.]

>>551943
Look up the brian_tsui channel to find a comprehensible tutorial on Live2d. I learned more or less how to rig a model from that and I'm basically a hillbilly, I bet you can do something better.

[Anonymous No.]

>>550282
If I had to guess, the rigger probably isn't well versed in head turning beyond what you'd do with a face looking straight forward. I mentioned aruran's live2D earlier in the thread so you can sort of use that as an example where his head can turn slightly but the motion doesn't allow for like 45 degree movement like a lot of the holo girls models do
in terms of layering i'd imagine you could like, have some part around the mouth glow based on how much of your mouth is open, so you'd have a specific set of layers on that area of the helmet with a lit and unlit mouth that the rigger could theoretically make look like a lightup effect. i think with a helmet you just gotta get creative with the parts and how you can substitute having a face with expressions by using the different parts

[Anonymous No.]

>>539413
You're onto me

[Anonymous No.]

>>553653
>like a lot of the holo girls models do
How are they rigged to allow that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>553967
artist sets out the models to allow for the maximum degree of movement. if the artist doesn't have assets of a hololive model looking greater than 45 degrees to the left, then the model can't do that.

same thing as bottom teeth. Ame's artist created Ame's model with bottom teeth and the rigger was able to use it to show off bottom teeth when Ame smiles. Gura has no bottom teeth because the artist never rendered bottom teeth for her (and thus, there's nothing for a rigger to rig up)

[Anonymous No.]

>>554126
Ah interesting. Must be nice to have cover money to have stuff like that made

[Anonymous No.]

Is becoming a rigger a viable option to get involved on the vtubbing world, considering how expensive rigging currently is, it means the demand is not being met

[Anonymous No.]

>>554963
It very much is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>554963
definitely, but if you get highly skilled as a Live2D rigger, be sure to look beyond just vtubers because that opens up a lot more. your work can be useful for video games, creative works like comics, short films, etc.

https://www.youtube.com/user/imst

[Anonymous No.]

i am planning to become a yt commentator/reviewer similar to anthony fantano but for anime and kpop

is that a viable option for me? or should i become a twitchslut? here's my channel link

https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCuCP9j8nnzJMXVeuCMZ7_SQ

[Anonymous No.]

>>555121
roblox

[Anonymous No.]

>>555121
it's kinda difficult to understand you since you talk a bit too softly for your mic to pick up your words.

>>555173
it's 7 years old, who gives a fuck
at this this anon is creating shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>555188
okay but imagine a roblox focused vtuber i bet that would be a huge hit for the kids

[Anonymous No.]

>>554963
Do you have a current portfolio? I'm not opposed to being your first client

[Anonymous No.]

>>555206
Earlier in the thread somebody brought up the idea of agressively niching down into traditional youtube topics.
I could see a Roblox youtuber who uses a Roblox model as a model would blow up

[Anonymous No.]

>>555310
roblox model model is likely to get you sued by the roblox devs funnily enough

[Anonymous No.]

>>555341
Are they strict or something? I'm sure a new model based on Roblox would fall into fair use

[Anonymous No.]

>>555382
thats the thing, the roblox devs are insanely autistic about copyright that they sue people making fanart, which is why you never see any art, only screenshots and cutouts. there seems to be an exception somewhere for personal use like in VRChat, but using something custom made as the face of your channel would fall under fanart.

[Anonymous No.]

>>555121
You gotta project your voice better but I like the energy youre going for

[idol hopeful !btr76hqMa6 No.]

I’ve been thinking about this quite a bit and I’m not sure where to draw the line when it comes to encouraging the parasocial relationshp. You guys know I love Calli but she’s doing a date stream tomorrow and a friend of mine is actually going to be buying a cake to enjoy it.

I wonder if that’s too much. I believe the power in the social dynamic always lies with the VTuber so you have a responsibility to keep the relationship healthy.

At the same time it’s a cute thing, a very idol-ish thing that could be fun for viewers, but also dangerous for the emotionally vulnerable.

[Anonymous No.]

>>555952
Unfortunately the parasocial relationship thing is impossible to avoid if you're trying to be an entertainer, even if you're taking calculated measures. Unstable people will latch on if you're getting even just hundreds of viewers, unless you have the appeal of a wet sock, which then your viewers might just be there to pity you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>555952
if you think the cake is weird wait till you see the shrines

[Anonymous No.]

>>555952
I'm one of the Mori shrine posters, that's just good fun for me and is like posting some fanart with a bit more of a message of genuine admiration behind it
I also occasionally during member streams will bring out the alcohol to join in with her, despite only ever drinking socially which is extremely rare, I do it with her and the other deadbeats in chat
For me this is mostly fun stuff like some type of event, but it's an event for one of my favorite things so I'm hype and get into it putting more effort than normal, then getting even more hyped because there is a whole community doing the same thing

I also see there is a very hard divide between me and her, and accept she is still just a mostly(kinda) normal girl in the end and am fine with her doing things I don't exactly like or disappearing for ages and try keep my admiration in a non-self-destructive way
Ideally most others are the same. Perhaps we don't have the best lives and want company and a streamer can fill that void, but the majority should hopefully have some self control and realize when things start to get bad and self regulate
What it comes down to is the exception like other anon says, the more mentally unstable. In desperation they will think they found something truly special and will either wallow in depression knowing the truth of the divide or not see it and think they have a chance. I've seen quite a few fellow deadbeats like this, many people know them and their issues too.
If you can provide a very clear divide, and also reiterate on it in some way, many people that would have started to fall down will re-evaluate themselves and potentially stop themselves. For those that don't, the rest of the community that clearly knows the divide will probably step in. Like the deadbeats I mentioned, many other deadbeats started talking to them when they show issues encouraging them to step back and calm down for a while, these people helping out are usually kind to them and relate to the issue and are possibly even friends which increases the effects of their encouragement to not go too far. If you can just try and foster a community that would do stuff like this you can probably push the limits a bit more with the relationship while keeping things fun and not damaging

[Anonymous No.]

saw this making its way around, it's not vtuber specific but some of you may find it helpful
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0i9gkprYekI

[Anonymous No.]

Here's a song suitable for /auds/ from FL Studio 20.7's included project NewStuff.flp, No Need To Be Afraid - ANNA MIA
Lyrics:
When the darkness turns to light
All the trouble fades away into nothing
When the moon can touch the sky
All the love in your heart I can see it rising

When the cloud cover starts to break
You can feel the sun rays over your shoulder
When a storm moves in your head
Close your eyes and don’t be waiting but hold on

It’s not to late to fight the game has just begun
When you’re done once in a while you can climb the path again
And every day and night moments never go away
There’s no need to be afraid

When it’s raining all the days
And you long for a smile that was almost forgotten
When you’re searching for a change
You will find in you’re life what is kept you from falling

It’s not to late to fight the game has just begun
When you’re done once in a while you can climb the path again
And every day and night moments never go away
There’s no need to be afraid

[Anonymous No.]

>>555037
man i love when people who are insanely good at something upload their workflow, what a god.

[idol hopeful !btr76hqMa6 No.]

>>557518
This is really assuring. I’m glad to hear that. Thanks, dead beat.

[Anonymous No.]

>>561988
Personally, I already have a parasocial relationship with you and all the other regulars in this thread so its too late ;^)

[/vt/sings production anon No.]

Hey chuuba hopefuls, just thought I'd cross promote my project ITT for those of you who wanna be singtubers.
>>558742
Tl;didn't click I'm gonna mix a /vt/ Sings for KING. Join in if you want.

[Anonymous No.]

>>562450
Bold of you to assume I didn't open that the second I saw it in the catalog

[Anonymous No.]

>>562450
oh i'll go send a file for this at some point, thanks for sharing

[Anonymous No.]

>>550282
Are you the robot guy?

[Anonymous No.]

>>555121
Are you a guy who's just good at controlling your voice?

[Anonymous No.]

>>564523
No, he's the mandalorian

[Anonymous No.]

Hey, quick question folks (emphasis on quick, less than an hour to complete the order to get it by tomorrow):
Does anyone have experience using moving blankets as soundproofing?
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01MTVGT4K
I was searching around and apparently this is a sort of known ghetto studio-insulation-on-the-cheap method, with the top review even being about these things' quality as a sound-insulating product rather than how good they are for moving.
If anyone has experience using these, or a similar method of "really big blankets/fabric covers", I was thinking of just getting gorilla tape to adhere them to the wall, as I don't wanna try to nail them in since I'm moving out within the next year, but I'm obviously worried that wouldn't be sufficiently strong to hold the weight (stated weight is 3.5 pounds per blanket).

[Anonymous No.]

>>570126
Anything soft and fluffy and folded into multiple layers should be good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>570126
You can literally just go to Home Depot or some shit and get this in person? Shit, I think even bigger Walmarts would probably have them.

Plus, based on what those reviews are all saying, apparently they all have a weird/noxious smell to them, might wanna buy them in person for that reason alone.

[Anonymous No.]

>>570126
I'm an anon doing test streams working up to a debut
I'm in a rental so can't modify anything, but my family are all outside my door
One day I realized that all I need is a big rectangle shaped object with a lot of mass to block the noise, and noticed there was a big chunky yet soft one I sleep on every night
Like me you could just pull up and place your mattress against the door every stream, it wont cost you any extra, won't modify anything and won't add any extra clutter, it's just a pain to move around

[Anonymous No.]

I want to do a trap character, but I want a convincing girly voice. Give me information on achieving this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>570126
Get some heavy duty command strips or hooks. They should hold up to 13 lb. It's adhesive so it cleans off.

[Anonymous No.]

>>564523
No the star wars guy

[Anonymous No.]

>>571789
purely practice and voice training

[Anonymous No.]

>>570126
Okay, reporting back. Ended up just going to Walmart because apparently they were there. Ended up just using Gorilla Tape as I speculated.
https://voca.ro/18TgFxL29ZiG
>Test without blankets hanging, without noise reduction
>Test with blankets hanging, without noise reduction
>Intro to the next test because I didn't think to record one
>Test without blankets, noise reduction applied
>Test with blankets, noise reduction applied
Reverb's definitely gone, but I can definitely tell my next biggest hurdle is gonna be dealing with my PC's noise. I really don't know how to deal with that hurdle, I have a single-level desk all my shit's on, PC is behind my main monitor and mic is mounted on a desk swivel mount to my right side.

[Anonymous No.]

>>574233
>>Test with blankets, noise reduction applied
last one seemed fine, i didn't notice any noise from your pc. if you have one of the newer nvidia cards, you can also use the recent Nvidia Broadcast program to cut down on background noise, it's pretty good from what i hear.

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/broadcasting/broadcast-app/

demo video below (volume warning ahead of time) but: https://youtu.be/Q-mETIjcIV0?t=419

[Anonymous No.]

>>534191
IF I HAD KNOWN I *HAD* TO BE AN ESTABLISHED STREAMER OR WHATEVER, I WOULD HAVE DONE IT THE MOMENT I HEARD ABOUT HOLOLIVE EN.
FUCK.
BETTER LUCK GEN 3.
GEN 3 POKEMON > GEN 2
GEN 3 JOJO > GEN 2
GEN 3 YUGIOH > GEN 2
GEN 3 ホロライブ > GEN 2
FUCK

[Anonymous No.]

>>574512
You don't have to be an established streamer, you just need a track record of publishing content

[Anonymous No.]

>>574512
you have half of Feb left and like the first half of March create content before the application period closes, anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>574439
Only have a 1080 ti. Was gonna upgrade to a 3000 series, but
>no stock
>fucked up playing GME and didn't end up being rich, got out in the green at least though

[Anonymous No.]

>>574615
if you watch the video, he explains a way to get past the RTX requirement (the video has some outdated info, he corrected it in his video description) that may be able to help.

otherwise, if you're using streaming programs like OBS or XSplit, both provide options to create what's called a "Noise Gate" that'll suppress background noise. both programs have a lot of tutorials on how to set up a Noise Gate that you can google or look up on youtube. that'll help dramatically cut down on the background noise that your microphone picks up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>574582
I know, I just don't have any hope for it ending up mattering. Not like they're currently hiring males anyways. I'll do my best anyways.

[Anonymous No.]

>>574728
who gives a fuck? make content, apply, if you don't get in, who cares? keep making content that you enjoy.

that being said, good luck, anon. wish you the best.

[Anonymous No.]

>>571789
Literally do your reps: >>>/lgbt/19007822
>inb4 dilate and Ukrainian bathtubs
No, both don't cause voice to change, only practice will.

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>>574694
https://voca.ro/12bSlQHbGTjk
What the actual fuck.
Also, for reference, the top post in this thread has the exact link to what is apparently the last working beta version that will install for a 1000-series without any finangling:
https://forums.guru3d.com/threads/nvidia-rtx-voice-works-without-rtx-gpu-heres-how.431781/page-13
I tried to just download the newest version of the Nvidia Broadcast package as linked by that dude in the video, but they apparently wised up and changed the files in the installer, I can't find anything matching the description of the OP in the thread he links for "this is how you workaround".

[Anonymous No.]

How do you git gud at video editing? I wanna start making some clips and stuff
I believe I'll be able to get adobe creative cloud but wanna know if there is any superior guides and such

[Anonymous No.]

>>575198
ah damn, that sucks anon. sorry to hear that they've blocked that capability on older cards. until there's another way around it, or until you manage to snag an RTX compatible card, the next best option would be to set up a Noise Gate for your microphone input (provided your streaming software allows for it)

Noise Gates basically set a "floor" of sorts that just ignores all the sounds that the mic picks up that end up lower than the floor. so what you'd want to do is let your mic just record normally, find out what the average background noise it picks up, and then set the "floor" to just barely higher than the background noise.

that should help reduce a lot of the fan noise and electric buzzing from your computer.

[Anonymous No.]

Is Vkatsu viable for streaming? From my light research it seems the answer is no, but I'm hoping I'm wrong about that

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>>575299
No, no, you misunderstand.That clip was WITH the RTX suppression. Here's with me turning it up in the app in steps:
https://voca.ro/1gQSGmc1Ps7X
This shit's fucking awesome.

[Anonymous No.]

>>540137
For any anons looking to "soundproof" (soundproofing is different from absorbing sound but it doesn't really matter here) their rooms: 3 moving blankets stacked per wall will reduce reverb and absorb enough sound to prevent neighbors from hearing. You may not even need that many.
https://www.amazon.com/Sure-Max-Moving-Packing-Blankets-Furniture/dp/B073V5CRQ7
Tested this with a band, so it'll work for sure with vocals.

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>>575356
ah, my mistake then. i'm glad you were able to get it up and running!

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>>575358
Yeah, I did such myself >>574233 . And I only have one layer, both because I'm a cheapskate and for now I'm more worried about sound quality/unwanted reverb reduction than not bothering my apartment neighbors. I can certainly vouch for the subtle improvement it can make.

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>>575330
this is the first time i'm hearing about VKatsu, but from a quick browsing, it looks like it's just a simple character creation tool. from what google translate tells me it, it has the capability to export the model in a .vrm format.

VSeeFace is a face tracking software that accepts .vrm format models that's free, so i'd give it a shot. make a model with VKatsu, export the .vrm file, and then toss it into VSeeFace and see if you like the end result.

there's another 3D modeling software called Vroid Studio that's also free and exports .vrm format models. i've messed around with it before myself and one of the main advantages is that Vroid Studio models come pre-"boned" so things like blinking and opening mouths is already taken care of by default.

[Anonymous No.]

>>575358
>>544127
Side note: egg cartons do not absorb sound, and they barely reduce the reverb in a room. Your neighbors will still be able to hear you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>539652
If the goxlr is too expensive, you can get a scarlett solo interface (~$100, works for xlr, 1/4in inputs), run your audio through reaper or another DAW of choice (reaper is free, though), and into your streaming software with this (http://sar.audio/).). Reaper's got an eq and compressor, too. Haven't tested this personally, but I know several people who use a similar setup, and they have no issues with latency.
You can also run your voice through different effects in reaper, similar to how the goxlr does it, but that'll require a little work on your part.

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>>575629
Well, shit. I've been lied to for 2 and a half decades. I guess it's better to know the truth after all this time, instead of keep being ignorant about the subject.
I'll try with moving blankets next time, as the other dudes in this thread.

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>>575908
Dude who was gonna get them from amazon and started this whole conversation, here. I lied when I said I got moving blankets, they didn't have any, so I autistically decided that I was gonna make my trip to walmart fucking worth it and buy SOMETHING. So I'm actually just using comforters, as I said just fucking gorilla-taped up.
It's amazing how just this little bit of a change has already completely changed my room's acoustics. Getting rid of that back wall being a hard surface cleaned up echo and reverb, and just the simple act of turning around and snapping my fingers just sounds crisper and less washed-out than it did when bouncing around my room.
Or maybe I'm just a poorfag addicted to sunk cost fallacy. Who knows.

[Anonymous No.]

>>575288
https://youtu.be/O6ERELse_QY

[Anonymous No.]

>>575908
The 12 pack of moving blankets i linked is about $50. That's enough to cover 4 walls with 3 blankets. Regardless of the shape of your room, as long as you set the blankets up in a square/rectangle around your workspace, you'll get the desired effect. The fewer the gaps between the blankets, the better.
>>576047
If you haven't done all 4 walls, check your room for flutter by clapping around the room. It'll sound like a really quick echo, almost like a laser. I had this issue in my room when i only had blankets up on one wall.

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>>575446
I see, thanks.
It figures you're supposed to export the model to something else, since VKatsu on its own makes my computer slow as a brick

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>>575358
How well would you say it works at actual sound reduction? I'm the anon who puts his matress against the door when streaming, it works a bit but doesn't block enough to be truly loud, ideally I can also start learning to sing in my own room without my family noticing but there's no way I can just like this

[Anonymous No.]

>>576047
I can vouch for that, this is a real easy test anons can do if they wanna just test how sound quality can change and nothing more
Grab your regular blanket and wrap it around yourself, then go to the toilet(assuming you have a tiny room and not a full bathroom), anything you say or noises you make will sound wildly different than you would expect

[Anonymous No.]

>>539516
This stuff isn't really worth the trouble for anything short of project miko level production with a with that style of realistic model, it lends next to nothing to traditional "anime" style models, which don't have the same type of setup (usually) that realistic 3D models have.

For your average 3D VTuber, VSeeface is more than enough.

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>>576279
I live alone in a two-floor apartment of a 3-stort townhouse apartment complex (I.e. they're not just the next door down, I need to go down some stairs, walk down the path, then come back up to their patio). Typical western hikki outside of work, friends with literally zero of my neighbors (let alone my next door ones), and not about to go knocking and say "hey, by the way, have you heard me less clearly?"
Also I literally just put them up tonight, it's just now midnight here, so I couldn't ask them even if I wanted to. Sorry. Best I can say though is from the basic research I did, to actually get anything close to actual soundproofing you need like 4 or 5 layers of blankets or towels combined together. A single layer basically only helps for acoustics of your recording space, won't really do much to reduce noise leak.

[Anonymous No.]

Thoughts on Fofamit and her advice?

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>>576279
I'm a drummer, and I live in a decent sized house. It works really well. From outside my drum room, if I play loud, you can barely make out the cymbals, although you can hear the kick/snare because the blankets mostly block out higher frequencies. If you're really worried, add more blankets on the wall you share with neighbors/roommates, and make sure to cover and seal your door.

[Anonymous No.]

>>576384
>>576279
Autistically samefagging, I was outside smoking so took a picture to explain what I mean not that you probably care
Top pic, have to walk down those stairs and down to the ground level walkway, green line, to go up an identical (mirrored) set of stairs on the other side of where my neighbor's apartment is, bottom picture, other side of that waist-high wall. My shared bedroom (wall) is on the side nearest the neighbor's, on the top floor.

[Anonymous No.]

>>576422
The 3d advice? No one but an oiler or a VRChat player gets any benefit from their setup because it's tracker based, and I personally think their post processing, lighting, and entire world setup looks really, really bad and ugly. They could look a lot better but I guess it just an aesthetic choice.

[Anonymous No.]

Not planning on getting in myself, all I wanna say is good luck to all of you trying, hope you get something out of it!

[Anonymous No.]

>>576697
>Get in
I have no delusions, I'm debuting indie and I know it. I've got absolutely no body of work, not even pre-streaming. But if you're talking about my eventual goal to get into a NijiEN male branch or theoretical HolostarsEN in a year or two, then yes, thank you for the support!

[Anonymous No.]

I know a lot of you guys struggle with what helps a male vtuber succeed outside of your content, at least as an indie, and honestly it isn't even 100% being entertaining, I'm friends with a few guys are are plenty entertaining and hardworking and still don't break 15 viewers.

Assuming you're a new talent and not an existing male streaming becoming a vtuber, you just need to be likeable, and I know most of you probably aren't but you'll have to at least pretend to be.

A lot of growth comes from networking, and no one wants to hang out with you if you're a weirdo asshole shitting on everyone you don't like the second you get a chance. I wasn't doing too great until I started socializing more on Twitter, Discords of streamers I like, etc. Once I did, I started getting more support and obviously collabs help a lot with sharing communities as well. I'm still only at about a 25 average, but it's much better than when I started 8 months ago, and a lot of that is just putting in your content reps and networking.

[Anonymous No.]

>>576930
This reminds me of the idea from like 4 years ago for Sovietwomble to use the womble with an ushanka instead of a facecam.. holy shit if it wasn’t for copyrights he’d be a vtuber without realizing. He is, by the way, the best example I can give of a good streamer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>529803
Started Vtubing last August. I learned a lot of tricks over time that nobody told me upfront: Decent mic quality.

I started out with 3.5mm, moved up to a USB Mic and then to a preamp with a cardioid mic. I wish people in the community told me earlier.

Still working out getting better quality streams, but mic quality are more important than cool looking models.

[Anonymous No.]

>>577163
Yeah, audio quality is extremely important, I think a decent preamp/cardroid setup should be the one of the first expenses before you start making any content that involves your voice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>577163
I know if I'm serious about this, I should get a good mic/preamp now rather than second-guess myself and keep rocking my 7-year old Blue Yeti. But then it's like
>~$200 for the absolute barest of bones, >$300 for something with actual staying power
and I go back to second guessing whether to step up my audio game. Which I know I need to, but still. Fuck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>577294
Upgrade later on anon. Just focus on actually starting

[Anonymous No.]

>>577294
I spent 175 dollary-doos on a basic cardioid mic and a Focusrite 1 channel preamp. Amazon sells Mic and amp combos under 200 bucks. Just throwing that out there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>539549
>Over here in Asia, Japan, and perhaps the rest of the anglosphere, we do not mind.
Babiniku is okay but trannies are not. Don't lump them in the same grouping.
Trannies are a red flag for menhera so if a chuuba sounds manly as fuck and insists they are female don't even bother.

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>>577294
>tfw also using a Blue Yeti rested on my tower because I don't have a desk yet
>also only have one monitor which is a tv screen
W-we're both gonna make it anon. I'm honestly just trying to get used to the idea of streaming first since it's something I've wanted to do for years, but only got the tech for it recently

[Anonymous No.]

Oh and I suppose I can answer OP's question in earnest to contribute something worthwhile to this thread:
>2 monitors
>RGB everything for whatever reason
>Blue Yeti
>Yamaha P45 Piano (mainly used as a MIDI controller)
>Distinct lack of daily cleaning and dusting
>Pic related
>>577605
I'll definitely be doing some digging, I'm the dude who got up and just went to Walmart earlier ITT just for the sole reason of buying shit to hang on my walls. I have forward momentum right now, if I lose it I'll probably slump into a stagnant place again.

[Anonymous No.]

Useful article by a vtuber from here about keeping your information private, if you're thinking of starting out you should read it
https://mauthedoog.medium.com/21-privacy-tips-vtubers-need-to-know-ce93082cd166

[Anonymous No.]

>>577767
Also I live in the US, west coast, not Australia, my phone just has a really bad habit of flipping my pictures and I never check.

[Anonymous No.]

>>577794
jesus fucking christ i forgot to save it after flipping it
if this is upside down again it's fucking staying this way.

[Anonymous No.]

>>577294
>>577757
>>577767
For you and other anons on a budget, get a used cardioid mic (like a rode podmic or something), a used scarlett solo, and that 12 pack of moving blankets—$250 total. You'll be set with quality audio for a very long time. I do a lot of mix/mastering work and some recording, so I know a little about this topic. And if you ever give up, the mic and interface should retain retain their value somewhat.
>>577794
What do you use the midi controller for? Are you a musician?

[Anonymous No.]

>>577883
Yes, I'm the guy running the /vt/ Sings thing
Don't tell them, I posted a "this is my last post ITT, I'm going to bed" reply there like an hour ago, I'm supposed to be asleep

[Anonymous No.]

>>577278
>>577163
I started a couple weeks ago. My model is total shit and i'm just learning as I go. But the first things I invested in were acoustic treatments for my room, moving to a USB mic and using a few software tricks to completely kill background noise. Agreed though that mic quality is just as important as a professional looking model, speaking as someone who's watched a few indies for ideas.

[Anonymous No.]

>>574512
>5DS > GX
Debatable

[Anonymous No.]

Finding any way I can to achieve my dream including using my mattress as a soundproof device anon here again
Decided to do some actual genuine tests and fuck me the mattress works way better than I thought

I turned on my speakers and had music blasting at about -18dB according to what my mic is picking up in reaper about 50cm away at 4/5ths gain
>Testing with mattress laying down in its bed frame, nothing put up against door
Standing outside my door I could clearly hear the music, anyone in the hallway would know
>Testing with mattress placed against the door as much as I could get it to without crushing my arm closing the door
Near silence, could barely hear anything at all. I would have to actually stand right in front of the door to hear stuff, someone walking by will probably realise there is some type of noise but not care as its quiet as hell
>Same as above, but with two regular sleeping blankets draped over the mattress facing the door
Practically absolute silence. Couldn't hear a fucking thing, had to place my ear up to the door to hear anything and even then what I heard was barely comprehensible

My voice is much deeper than the song I was playing (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtF0Jwf5vqQ)) so maybe it would leak more, but if I'm going below that -18dB things should hopefully be okay and I can finally begin learning to sing in my own home

[Anonymous No.]

>>578750
Shit, forgot that forward facing mic makes a big difference
Placed it in front and the music was actually playing at about 0dB according to reaper, so you can certainly be kinda loud as long as you've got the walls for it I guess if the door is your main issue and you're willing to cart your mattress everytime

[Anonymous No.]

>>574755
this
I had my first test stream and someone I didn't know actually watched me and gave me advice on microphone positioning and balancing audio

legit felt good afterwards
I wasn't expecting anyone to watch my stream except for a couple of my friends since I was still experimenting with the settings.

[Anonymous No.]

>>539549
somehow I don't really agree. I mean I care somewhat. it's not a dealbreaker, but it's something.

[Anonymous No.]

>>579443
it really does feel good when you have people coming in to talk to you when streaming
i know theres a lot of people that shit on the whole "pre-debut vtweeters" crowd but at least when they start streaming there's usually people excited to come see them
hell, the streams i did after building up a really small following on twitter got me noticed enough to have just a couple of people talking in stream and that felt really nice

[Anonymous No.]

>>577757
aruran streams on a fucking cardboard box you'll make it anon

[Anonymous No.]

I'm nervous about dropping the cash on a model only to not get the viewership I want, bros. What if I get burnt out and frustrated

[Anonymous No.]

>>586408
pngtuber on the cheapo, or just no cam stream first to get the hang of it. your first like 10 streams will be hella scuffed with almost no viewers anyway. you can always slap on a persona or avatar later on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>586408
Stream for your Discord friends first, so you can get practice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>586408
i'm personally doing this for the content building and practice
numbers are nice but i think its important that it should be about you having fun first and foremost
have you been doing your social media reps to build up a potential viewerbase?

[Anonymous No.]

Is it possible to hit a middle ground between in character 24/7 fantastical creature kayfabe and "just an animated facecam"?
If my waifu has a skin in one of the games I play, would using that skin on stream be dox material?
What exactly makes someone a babiniku? Like, does it have to exclusively be a female avatar with a masculine voice, or would an androgynous avatar work too?
>>586561
Not the guy you replied to, but how should you go about doing those reps? Ironically, I had actually scaled back my social media presence some time ago before I decided to jump into streaming, and right now I just do small practice streams on a personal twitch for some discord and irl friends. Should I start making new accounts now? Is it worth it to commission a model and be a vtweeter while practicing voice only or pngtubing with a different design?

[Anonymous No.]

>>587861
I know a lot of vtweeters just repurposed their old twitters to keep their number of followers higher but i personally just made a new account and started from scratch. I made the mistake of not making my accounts until like 2 days prior to my debut and the only person there was the friend i had told i was doing this. i didn't really mind though because i kinda just wanted to do the debut for the sake of doing it, but if you want to have people know that you exist i'd say the earlier the better, especially if you're still able to put out content through pngtubing or other kinds of media.

>Is it worth it to commission a model and be a vtweeter while practicing voice only or pngtubing with a different design?
why a different design and not the design you plan on having for your final avatar?

[Anonymous No.]

>>578750
Damn. I would do the matress thing as well but mine is too big to fit. Guess i'm stuck with covering my door with blankets

[Anonymous No.]

>>587861
>Is it possible to hit a middle ground between in character 24/7 fantastical creature kayfabe and "just an animated facecam"?
I'm also going to try to tread the line a bit. I'm not as interested in being a tubah as much as I am interested in just using the model where I'd otherwise use my face, and only toy with "in universe" stuff if my attention is brought to it directly

[Anonymous No.]

>>588230
Probably best to just start making new accounts then since it would be too much of a chore to scrub my existing twitter of all the porn I retweet. I'm not quite sure the best approach to pushing myself though. Just follow other indies and shill myself here and on reddit?
>why a different design and not the design you plan on having for your final avatar?
My thought process was to get accustomed to the setup and programs on a personal account before using a separate account for vtubing, but thinking about it yeah, that probably is adding an unnecessary step. Was mostly considering it because I'm still bouncing design ideas off people, but have a "placeholder" design so to speak a buddy was practicing their art and l2d skills on

[Anonymous No.]

>>588787
that's what i've done and its been a slow burn but basically following other indies and shilling yourself yeah
make sure you actually interact with them too; i feel like that really gets people more likely to follow your back if you actually converse with them. over the course of the week i hit 100 followers and i noticed that when i was in the 50s or so i was getting some amount of people interacting with my posts and stream notices
i don't know about shilling yourself here but its worth a try; i haven't done so yet because i don't know how i feel having connection to /vt/

[Anonymous No.]

>>588230
> I made the mistake of not making my accounts until like 2 days prior to my debut and the only person there was the friend i had told i was doing this.
Personally, I'm super autistic and worried that if I start shilling myself too early I'll lose interest in actually following through with the channel once I get that initial dopamine rush

[Anonymous No.]

>>589271
And that's fine too! It'll just be hard to get any sort of following quickly if you start on a clean slate so just keep that in mind!

[Anonymous No.]

If you're planning on going indie then you should look at Futakuchi Mana as a general guideline of how to go about it
She did everything right and began her debut stream both already monetized (able to receive superchats) and with a legitimate audience waiting for her
now she's at almost 25k subs and her debut stream has 36k views

[Anonymous No.]

>>589271
Here's my current plan, with steps in order, that may or may not be altered depending on the indicated branch point
>Play around in VRChat without streaming, get comfortable with talking to internet strangers and having chats about random bullshit, and/or playing characters
>guerilla stream without avatar, just voice, on a throwaway channel playing games that are big or unique enough to draw a couple viewers here and there, to practice streaming with a chat
>Begin production of a KING cover to be my debut video, just because it's cliche enough to draw attention
>Begin drafting schedules for what games to play, so that when/if I debut I can have a calendar ready to go (current plan: Mechwarrior 5 modded till year 3055, just to give myself a stopping point, then one of my many JRPGs I've bought but haven't played yet, haven't picked one; less-scheduled streams for music production, karaoke, and, if I happen to catch lightning and get enough audience to justify it, chat streams.)
>This gives me at least a month or two of content
I am here, also this is the branch point.
>Begin subtly rolling out previews of my KING cover to places like here, leddit, discord channels, etc. to gauge reaction prior to release
>If it is being received very well, YOLO on a good L2D model and commission an artist to make me art for a full KING video
Other branch
>If I get a lot of "well, you tried" in response to my cover, save money and pngtube on debut, still release the song but know that it's not gonna surprise anyone
>For a few weeks prior to debut, already with some static content and planned live content, begin creating my social media profiles for my chuuba personality and begin networking
Mind you, I'm only in the very preliminary stages of my plans, but having a specific set of goals is definitely keeping me focused in on exactly what I need to do next. Until I make the best possible mix of this KING cover, I'm at a standstill, which is fine, and I'm also not basing all my hopes on it. I'm just really hoping I can make something special and get a lot of "whoa holy shit" cred right off the bat.

[Anonymous No.]

General streaming question, but having two monitors is basically required for streaming, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>592493
it helps A LOT but isn't required
I use my phone to look at and read my chat

[Anonymous No.]

>>592493
Not necessarily, though it definitely helps. A second monitor can hold all of your streaming software, the chat, etc., which greatly improves your ability to interact and produce a more technically-strong show (can quickly and easily manage transitions, memeing with your avatar, rearranging your stream in response to complaints, monitoring audio, etc.)
With all that said, you absolutely can get away with just a chat overlay on your actual screen (vice just digitally overlaying it and having it be an actual separate window), that's probably the number one element to keep track of.

[Anonymous No.]

Why do non-japanese vtubers follow the whole vtuber rigmarol? Why do you need to announce a debut? Why do you need a japanese name? Why try and bring in anime tropes? Do people seriously lack 0 creative sense? I guess I shouldn't be surprised. This is no different than the youtuber boom and youtubers following each other's shitty practices.

[Anonymous No.]

>>592567
>I use my phone to look at and read my chat
Okay cool, that's what I was planning to do, just wasn't sure if it was possible

[Anonymous No.]

>>592622
Yeah getting a second monitor is a high priority for me, but I was worried I wouldn't be able to start streaming at all until I got one

[Anonymous No.]

>>592622
Samefag, >>592567 could also use your phone like this anon said. Or a tablet, or whatever.
Me, I'd probably just get a bargain basement second monitor, new ones are only in the ballpark of a hundred bucks nowadays and having the extra real estate is always nice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>592634
My philosophical interpretation of it is something like:
Anyone can just start streaming, true. And you can get a decent audience just being a normie streamer. But following the chuuba format, or even parts of it, is sort of an indication that you intend to follow the spirit of all the other chuubas, which helps viewers know what to generally expect.
I view it as like pro wrestling sorry, Risu: could you THEORETICALLY just have a characterless person who is good in the ring but can't cut promos for shit? Sure, and a meager handful of wrestlers have pulled exactly that off (Goldberg when he debuted in WCW comes to mind, he had zero showmanship); but for the most part, most people get into a character or narrative arc, and fans are drawn to that as much as, if not more than, the technical aspect itself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>592661
Why? You'll get 1 viewer if you're lucky. Maybe 10 over the course of a couple of months. Do it if you like it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>592843
What do you mean? You're giving vtubers too much credit. It's literally just another flavor of youtube content. What are you on about with showmanship and characterless person? People who are in the entertainment business will tend to have showmanship and can sell product. They don't need to pretend to be a mythical creature born from wherever to cut a promo. Human beings aren't one dimensional.
Also vtubers barely bring up their character backstory. It's only a passing note at the very best. It doesn't alter their stories in any meaningful way.

[Anonymous No.]

>>593270
you sound like you should be in the annoying orange thread since you clearly don't understand vtubers at all

[Anonymous No.]

>since you clearly don't understand vtubers at all
>you sound like you should be in the annoying orange thread
how do mirrors work?

[Anonymous No.]

>>593270
I think YOU'RE focused too much on the "muh backstory" aspect. Even vtubers themselves don't even try to force it 99% of the time.
I wasn't even talking about that, though, I was talking about the fact that people who are sort of "typical vtubers" tend to network more easily and, even if not strictly in-character, provide a loosely-tied narrative of being this big, imaginary network of friends who send each other shitposts on twatter or discord in the middle of the night, and viewers are drawn in not so much for the streams themselves (though they absolutely need to be good/present as well, else VTweeters wouldn't be the cancer they are) but the headcanon of an anime come to life. Even if your 'character' has lore that is completely discarded.
It's sort of the "wow, look at them, they're having fun fucking around with each other" vicarious thing, and following the motions of vtubing (debuts, social media, collaborations, etc.) just reinforces that. The best non-vtuber streamers or content creators have the same thing going, but just form friend networks within their own groups -- comically-cynical assholes like Mandalore and Sseth; "stereotypical hyperironic millennial" brotubers like XQC and cr1tikal; e-thot alliances like Pokimane, Alinity, etc. Same thing, it's not so much about the streamers' content itself, though that plays in, but lots of people watch because "HOLY SHIT X AND Y ARE COLLABING TOGETHER THIS IS GONNA BE SO FUNNY/COOL/HOT". Vtubing is just another face of that phenomenon, and carries with it a certain set of things it HELPS to do to 'make it' in the community.

[Anonymous No.]

>focusing on everything but creating content
ngmi

[Anonymous No.]

>>593911
>content is all you should be worried about
Then why the fuck even be a vtuber? Or more accurately, why be in this thread? Just commish a Live2D and go start, there's absolutely nothing to it beyond that apparently.

[Anonymous No.]

you should just go back and stop talking like you know anything, anon

[Anonymous No.]

Just went to local music store and got an XLR mic. Don't worry about me, I'm not super rich but I'm not completely without funds, plus I'm the dude who's had a Blue Yeti for like a decade
https://files.catbox.moe/ih6ith.mp3
No effects or processing, this is the raw audio (filtered using RTX Voice like that one anon recommended last night). There's a clicky sound in at the peaks of the XLR recording, but that's apparently just me needing to play with my gain to get it leveled perfectly. All in all, even if I never start streaming, I'll be able to yell at people in online games even more clearly at least.

[Anonymous No.]

>>597682
Side question, though, my new fancy cardioid XLR mic is much heavier (with the shock mount it came with) than my Yeti and my cheapy Amazon special mic stand can't hold it up. Anyone got a specific recommendation on bang-for-the-buck desk-clipped mic booms?

[Anonymous No.]

>>562450
dear god

[Anonymous No.]

>>577687
>>583095
>>539750
I'm the guy he quoted; I don't want there to be any confusion; I am absolutely not trans. I followed another poster's advice here and threw babiniku in my bio just to ensure clarity. Either way the discourse is appreciated

[Anonymous No.]

>>597888
Nice trips.
Also my vague advice: just like, google "(your mic) boom mount"? I'm sure some normie forum or review site somewhere has someone who mentions what kind of stand they use.

[idol hopeful !btr76hqMa6 No.]

>>592232
Even as an agency VTuber, we’re looking into how she handled both her predebut marketing as well as her debut. We don’t even expect to get monetized for the first few months so being monetized right from debut is nothing short of amazing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>597888
Does it absolutely HAVE to be a boom? Couldn't you just get a desk stand? Or is this a space-dictated thing?

[Anonymous No.]

>>601020
Yes, I'm space-limited. I'm all up on the right side of my desk, so it would need to compete with my mousepad, and I don't have enough depth clearance to place a counterweighted desk stand behind my keyboard or something.
>>599993
It's the Artesia AMC-20, seems like kinda an understated brand, haven't found anything like that - but appreciate the suggestion.

[Anonymous No.]

Is there a way to get and use an already made, publicly available model for free? What program do you guys recommend? I'm just looking to test it out and get a feel for it

[Anonymous No.]

>>574512
>GEN 3 POKEMON > GEN 2
>GEN 3 JOJO > GEN 2
>GEN 3 YUGIOH > GEN 2

[Anonymous No.]

>get on Twitter to shill a little bit
>realize I don't know how to get twitter followers

The cycle starts anew

[Anonymous No.]

>>604835
thanks for the you...(?)

[Anonymous No.]

>>604847
Same here. I dont even know where to start

[Anonymous No.]

>>604847
>>605109
start posting content
>clips of gameplay, avatar designs, etc.
start engaging with others
>search for topics via hashtags, start commenting, liking, following others, use hashtags yourself so others can find your tweets on the same topics

[Anonymous No.]

>>604847
Find a community you like, or around something you like. Or people you agree with. Like, retweet, follow, etc while commenting to give a sense of who you are or how you want to present yourself. You'll eventually get followers, especially if you yourself are making original content

[Anonymous No.]

>>604847
>>605109
what i did was make my account with my avatar and just started engaging with the envtuber tag and following people on it.
obviously this is easier if you have like an image of your avatar already ready but yeah otherwise you just gotta make content
i'm only at a bit over 100 followers but its a start and i feel like it'll be a sort of exponential growth

[Anonymous No.]

just keep in mind that you shouldn't be leeching from other streamers as the main source of channel growth. the "small streamers" community is basically a cesspool of selfsucking leeches doing "follow for follows" and "raids for raids" but it'll never contribute to sustained channel growth

[Anonymous No.]

Make a new thread this time dummies

[Anonymous No.]

>>606114
of course as a main source of growth its not the best idea but to get yourself introduced its not a bad place to start
especially if you get followed by someone that does happen to have a decent sized following, getting retweeted can do a lot to get you visible to people that may be outside of the main vtubing community
i do agree that the small streamer community has a lot of overlap with each other though; its not hard to notice

[idol hopeful !btr76hqMa6 No.]

>>609238
New thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>decide to stream weekly grind and talk over it on a whim
>don't announce anywhere except through an automated bot in a largely inactive server that I had nothing to do with
>apparently 6 different people tuned in, with 1 actively chatting for a bit
These are obviously tiny numbers but for my first attempt at streaming in forever I'm surprised. Didn't feel like I left a lot of dead air either, which was the main thing I wanted to address.

[Anonymous No.]

>>609687
Now, you need to get your links onto other servers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>592634
Because capitalism dictates how certain forms are valued.