Hololive first stockholder meeting debate thread

[Anonymous No.]

You can read the questions and translation of it on the blue bird website: https://twitter.com/KHolosimp/status/1674410764583735299?t=uz34WjHQfWNwODg4nv8d_A&s=19

[Anonymous No.]

>Revive the green whore
>Do merch sales like Nijisanji
>Go back to China to appeal to their market

CONGRATS COVER, YOU HAVE LET PARASITES IN.

I hate all stockholders and I have no sympathy for them

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Can i ask how much money Ame invested on Tempus?

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>>52378318
All her $300000 dollars that she made when she was a dirty e-girl

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I will never forgive the shareholders

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>>52378304
Did they really ask to bring back Rushia as somebody else? Are they that fucking stupid?

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>>52378752
No, they just said IP. That could mean any character like Coco, Sana, Russia, Aloe or even the Star characters. It wasn't about the VAs.

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>>52378752
No, the shareholders were asking if there was a chance of producing merch from graduated vtubers.

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>>52378846
>sell merch from graduated/terminated members
hey, that's like nijisanji
>cut a bit of the pay of the members
hey, that's like nijisanji
>China
(bis)

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damn these shareholders are really acting jewish
wtf man
maybe the whole “Jew fears the samurai” thing is only because they’re the only people who can out-jew them

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>>52378837
>That includes any dead IP

That is still shit

And they were most likely talking about Rushia because she brought in big cash

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>>52378197
>holosimp
Who the fuck made this guy representative of the hololive fanbase?
Only thing missing is a blue checkmark so I can see his fucking tweets plastered all over my feed
And even if I block him I'd see his inane takes anyway because screenshots of his tweets would get passed around

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>>52378304
>Go back to China to appeal to their market
fucking retard theyre not going to outright say never going back to a specific region

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>>52378318
She didn’t , that’s a made up rrat

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>>52379337
The shareholders just don't care, they see Niji gaining big on China and they want the same CCP cash in their wallets

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>>52379157
It's him who provided the translated tweets so if you don't want to see him start doing shit yourself as well

I don't like him either due his takes defending the green whore lot of times, but at least he does some shit instead of just bullshitting others while sitting on your ass getting spoonfed content

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>>52379051
Coco brought more cash than anyone in Holo at the time.

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>>52379157
He is not, he's just reposting translated content of it. I hate any drama he brought in but he's one of rare breed of homos supporter that believe collabing with the girls isnt the way to make homos incline, especially begging to specific girls with clear stand about not wanting homos in their content, so yeah there's that

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>>52379412
No its not a rat, Ame invested 300000 dollars on Tempus in exchange for them to come to her mansion and fuck her over on all its rooms until every floor tile is filled with cum.

Ame with her secret millionaire money paid extras for the maids to watch while she fucks with a different guy from Tempus each hour for an entire week.

She did it until the floors where stained with cum, the windows and furniture all were coated with sexual fluids, and her womb prolapsed.

It is said that she ordered them to rape the maids and she killed these maids after to silence any talk about this incident, coating the cum on the floor with blood

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>>52379412
Why does she shills them the most in Hololive? She seems desperate

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>>52379577
Nope, rushia always did this is kinda sad but it is what it is. Coco barely beat her in superchat but not in merch where most money came from

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>>52379577
Nope, it was Rushia

That parasocial money brings the riches

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>>52379868
Damn you cuckold/porn addict faggot

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You faggots should see this one coming months ago. But fuck it, coping about how these shareholders will become your saviors and fire all males from the company is more important

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>>52380481
It's really fucking funny because the shareholders will ask for the exact opposite.

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>>52380358
How is that cuckold? That's just a scenario of a rich woman fucking all of her man servants around the mansion

[Anonymous No.]

Was Q8 and Q12 asked by the same person? Because it seems to be the only person who actually cares about the talent and not just profits (we need more people like them on board)

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>>52380358
Don't say words you don't know the meaning of, you uncultured swine

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>>52380481
I (the OP) was always skeptic and had very negative feelings when I saw that they opened themselves for stocks

I mean, just look at the modern scenario, with everything going woke and getting censored for the sake of getting more money

Killing the creativity for money is the trend with stockholders

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>>52379926
She’s a unityfag

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>>52378197
shes learned her lesson, its time for her comeback

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>>52378953
Niji does not do merch of graduated members and if you say Roa she still fucking produces NEW voice packs almost every single batch, nor has she graduated

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Yes, shareholders are retarded and don't give a single damn about what's happening as long as it gets them more money in the very near future.

Like many other business ventures that turn to shit, going public was a bad move and it'll be remembered as the first nail in the coffin for Cover.

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>>52378304
no wonder Yagoo so thin and both Kiara and Astel mentioned there will come bad times.
if they did any of those it will be the end of COVER or at least hard decline, the investers don't know shit and don't care either. Holoearth is a gamble, Tempus and Uproar were a waste of resources. This is bad.

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YAGOO isn't the majority shareholder anymore. This was all but inevitable. Start selling now. We're in for grim times.

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>>52378304
>Reviving Rushia
Not happening, but I could see her merch making a return
>Do the merch sales like Nijisanji
Already planned
>Go back to China to appeal to their market
Probably inevitable if they're looking to make gain out of their recent losses.

All losing decisions in the end, but that's just how business works.

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>>52382045
No, she regrets nothing, and she would do it again

>>52380709

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>>52382484
FUCK YOU BUSINESS ANON, this decision will kill the company on the long term ITS NOT SMART

No one watches holo expecting a Niji treatment, and the talents themselves didn't go there expecting either

Settling for this shit and seeing it as one that even makes sense is giving them leisure to implement that bullshit, we must scorn and show how much they can lose for even bringing these questions up

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>>52382484
they are suicide decisions anon, not "losing."

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>>52382679
>>52382696
I'm against all of them, I'm just stating what I am all but certain will happen and things you know will happen too.

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>>52382390
>Motoaki Tanigo 39.49 %
Damn you're right
YAGOO is ready to give it up if anyone wealthy enough is willing to take over

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>>52382794
I doubt they will return to china though. Unless they buy the company

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>>52382875
It is the beginning of the end, soon Cover will be taken over and we will only have a shell of what it once was

And all this for what? For a fucking studio to the chuubas who stream on their own houses 99% of the time even after its acquistion?

Worst decision from Cover ever

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>>52383082
>Worst decision from Cover ever
It was a good decision for YAGOO's wallet
It was a terrible decision for Hololive

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>>52382794
>things you know will happen too
i am telling you it is suicide decisions and that if COVER still have any braincells left, won't do it.

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>>52382898
By 2026 it's certainly possible given my projections.

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I hope to fucking god no one listens to cries of "get Holo back in China"
It was the greatest gift Coco provided the company before leaving, a clean harsh cut from bugmen influence

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>>52383202
You underestimate the power of shareholders anon. Shareholders are the same people who forced Jack Dorsey out of Twitter. Look at Twitter now.

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>shareholders start demanding they cull Holostars as a branch and any Hololive members deemed to be underperforming
Black company soon.

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>>52382484
Selling merch with graduated chuubas might be impossible if they have to give a slice of the profits to the performer. That said it might be possible for future contracts done with new members or during contract renewal. Cover would need to grant themselves the right to sell merch without needing to share the profits after the performer has left the company.

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>>52383267
Twitter was always a shithole, Jack or not, your point? and you know better than to use twitard as example on /vt/.

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>>52383413
>Selling merch with graduated chuubas might be impossible if they have to give a slice of the profits to the performer.
I don't think that holds after they're gone. It's still better to just not do it to avoid anyone trying to demand compensation just like how it's better to just delete most of their content to avoid them coming back to ask about it later.

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>>52382549
i like how you intentionally left out "living with Mafumafu and possibly dating each other" as one of your reasons to seethe about her when it's most likely the reason why she got fired in the first place.

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>>52383413
>if they have to give a slice of the profits to the performer.
That's about to change.

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>>52383592
Again it depends on the contract but I agree with you that cover should avoid doing anything with graduated chuubas since the potential drama that can arise from it is worse than losing the money earned from it

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>>52378304
Shareholders are fucking retarded. The main difference between Anycolor and Cover is short term profits vs long term growth.
And we're absolutely seeing the results. Hololive just keeps on growing and getting better deals, exposure and tech. Nijisanji is absolutely stuck or even worse they are losing talents and ground. Salome went from being the biggest Vtuber in the world to an irrelevant shitter who gets regularly mogged by Luna.
Even on the international market we see ID3 cornering the market and HoloEN still doing okay while NijiEN lost 80% of their viewership overnight with each new wave doing worse than the last.
So why the fuck are they even asking Hololive to turn into Nijisanji at this point in time?

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>>52383641
go back tourist

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>>52382045
She has been a problem like that for over a decade. She never learned her lesson and never will.

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>>52383202
I think you don't entirely understand how this works. Once they went public, that's it. Cover is no longer fully in charge of their own company. If the shareholders get irritated enough, they can even fire Yagoo and have their own puppet CEO installed. Shareholders basically own the company, collectively, that's why going public is a great way for the current management to cash out and retire and terrible way to run a company long term.

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>>52383947
They don't care, they don't even know how the Vtuber scene works, all they know is whose money they are getting and they want Cover to get these people money as well

They see a format that generates more money they don't even bother thinking about the consequences of it, they just think about the revenue it produces

Shareholders are subhuman scum that do nothing but ruin things in order to profit

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>>52379854
>he's one of rare breed of homos supporter that believe collabing with the girls isnt the way to make homos incline, especially begging to specific girls with clear stand about not wanting homos in their content
that's actually the majority view of the community, you just got caught up in this board's straw man of what 'homobeggars' are

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>>52384119
>Cover is no longer fully in charge of their own company.
Except they are. Cover employees still own the majority stock, and the IPO was only what, 20-25%? Cover will listen to their shareholders, because they are now invested in the company, and assumedly its well being, but they have no obligation to do anything they request.

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>>52383947
Anycolor still gets really big deals and they look profitable because the cost of just having a vtuber exist is nothing if you also pay them nothing. This is why these shareholders think they look good and Cover should definitely copy them.
When all of this shit was announced I talked to some retards about how most shareholders do not give a single fuck about the actual content going on with any of these companies.
All of those slides talking about the audience and channel growth might as well not exist to anyone just looking at the money that's being made currently.

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>>52383947
Modern Captialism has abandoned the idea of looking beyond the next fiscal quarter (or at longest a FY) in exchange for instant gratification, NUMBER GO UP MORE and the myth of infinitely accelerating growth.
Investment is a dirty word as it means the shareholders won't be able to line their pockets as much even if it means making less money long term.

It doesn't help that parasites like this keep making money sucking the life out of companies before moving on the next and repeating while lining their pockets more and more while never reinvesting into anything becoming a net negative on the economy.

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>>52383947
Shareholders know exactly what they're doing. Anything for a quick buck will help them and only them.

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>>52384119
Pretty much this.
>>52384541
YAGOO only has 35% of his share left. The minute he's surpassed, which is bound to happen, he'll be forced to cash out.
>>52384710
This mindset is why Cover will inevitably follow Anycolor. Which doesn't look good on the fan end, but looks good on the investor's end.

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>>52378837
>they just said IP.
The one who ask that question was rushia cosplayer. So it was pretty ovbious which IP he was asking for

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>>52384541
They're fully public now anon.

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>>52384263
>>52384710
>>52384714
Yeah I'd rather not talk about how retarded the idea of the stock market is and how many hobbies I've seen ruined by these greedy retarded parasites.
I'm just baffled that they seem to completely ignore Cover's long term approach (which is exactly what stock holders should look for) while praising Anycolor who seems to be having a dogshit year and absolutely failing to find any sort of success lately.
EN3 and HoloEarth should be around the corner, that alone should give the investors some motivation. What does Nijisanji have in store? More waves of irrelevant 3views?

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>>52384541
>but they have no obligation to do anything they request
Investors will tank the stock value if they're not listened to. Right now over 60% of Cover is owned by the investors. The current leadership is unseated. And they'll keep losing so much as prospective investors keep buying.

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>>52378304
>Go back to China to appeal to their market
Hololive returning to China would be a challenge but the potential market is huge so there probably are investors that are pushing for that.

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>>52383211
Your wet dreams are too dry. Maybe is better if you find a rope and kys

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>>52384798
Exactly, they don't give a single shit about the company except as a vehicle to make them short-term money. As soon as the stock starts to dip they can just cash out and move on to a new company to ruin. Doesn't hurt them in the least.

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>>52385137
To add to that. It's not a matter of if, but when. It'll certainly help offset the losses Cover had this year. Namely Blue Journey and Holoearth.

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>>52384875
>YAGOO only has 35% of his share left.
Yes, but unless anything has changed since last time, other Cover employees combined make up a similar sized chunk. So unless they all decide to bail on their company, Cover is fine.

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>>52385240
I should have been more specific then. Roughly 40% of the original investment group remains. The other 60% is all investors.

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What can the shareholders do if Yagoo just doesn't care

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>>52385069
Anycolor is falling in public image, but look at their stocks in the stock market, it is sky high since Gundou's graduation

Treating your employees as humans does not make the most money, and this is why we have so many clowns wanting to go their way

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>>52378197
I understand there's talk about public investment will inevitably suck the soul of the entertainment company. But, is Japan's corporate culture adhere to Friedman-style shareholder primacy, though?

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>>52385386
Worst case scenario? Vote to have him replaced
Although that will only happen if he seriously pisses them off and that's unlikely while their stock is steadily growing

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>>52385674
They only have 25%

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>>52385386
They own 60% of Cover now so they can basically set the tone for the future.

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>>52385706
It's 60% according to this anon
>>52382875

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>>52385137
maybe they could work with chinese site that's not bilibili
if they just returned to bili i can't see it going well at all
anyone who likes or liked coco, haachama or fubuki would flip their shit, and most of everyone who was around at that time certainly wouldn't be happy either

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>>52385717
>>52385772
There are probably people who were already in the company that holds stocks other than Yagoo

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>>52385772
The source for that in case anyone is interested
https://www.marketscreener.com/quote/stock/COVER-CORPORATION-151385540/company/

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>>52385023
Don't be dumb anon, you can literally look on any stock website to see that's not true. Currently only ~38% of the stock is available for public trade

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>>52385874
/vt/ and not understanding basic math, name a more iconic duo.

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>>52385826
That would be Fubuki

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>>52386003
>>52385826
I think it was said that every holomember has a bit of the stock

Some companies use this pratice to incentivize the employees in it to grow their own company and be more attached, which is honestly one of the most intelligent while moral decisions a company can do

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>>52385791
They're already back on B2. Clips are popping up at an all time high

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>>52385137
The Taiwan yab literally proved it isn't fucking worth it. Too many fucking eggshells to navigate through...

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>>52385826
See>>52385848

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>>52386160
The Chinese fandom is the most toxic place with people who will turn against you with the silliest thing and will try to doxx and ruin your entire life

So why interact with them even knowing that?

MONEY

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>>52386003
>>52386137
DYRB

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>>52378304
>get back into China
Not being tied to China and its egregious rules, both written and unwritten, you have to follow is a blessing that no amount of money can cover for.

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>>52385926
Oh I'm sorry, do we live in a a world 23.5 is not 38% of 61.12 now?

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>>52386160
Not in the name of money, anon. They need the money because Blue Journey and Holoearth flopped and that's a net loss. Not the only way they could compensate for the losses, but it's the easiest route possible. B2 itself has started allowing Holoclippers to thrive again.

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>>52378304
Why are you scared of money, anon?
>>52386160
Money talks. You want to make up for losses? You know who to call. Money talks, anon. Money talks.

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If Hololive ever goes back to West Taiwan, I will be pissed. The only good chink is a dead chink.

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>>52385874
61% of the stock you mean.

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>>52386411
By 2026 they'll be fully bought by a Chinese billionaire. Maybe Ma Huateng. You can screencap me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure this will happen.

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>>52386332
>Blue Journey and Holoearth flopped and that's a net loss
???

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>>52386476
But enough about Nijisanji.

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>>52386332
>Holoearth flopped
Since you're from the future, mind telling me what next week's lottery numbers are? Holoearth hasn't even launched yet, and their first attempt at commercializing part of it happens in 2 weeks.

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>>52386417
Other way around. Shares outstanding is the total number of issued stock shares. Public float is the number of shares available for public trade. So the public only owns ~38% of Cover, the rest is owned by Cover and its employees.

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>>52386521
What's there to talk about them? They've already sold their soul the minute they went public. Now Riku is planning on cashing out by year's end. If Cover didn't want to consistently follow in Anycolor's footsteps, then maybe they should have never fucking gone public. And all because they wanted a studio that none of the livers use since they stream and record at home? Learn not to repeat the mistakes of failures, NEVER EVER GO PUBLIC

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>>52386288
Be glad that Coco incident was before going public. They wouldn't never accept they cut ties with China

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>>52386577
YAGOO owns 40% of Cover. The rest is the stockholders and public. Cut the cope.

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Genuinely what the fuck were they doing with Blue Journey

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>>52386669
No shit sherlock, but many of those stockholders are cover employees. Why don't you take a look at >>52385848, and then look here https://cover-corp.com/en/company
Notice anything? Yeah, those names in blue, those are all Cover employees.

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>>52386932
So 55% of Cover is owned by stockholders then. I accept your concession. Majority my fucking ass.

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>>52386708
Investor mandated """project""" prs undastan

[Anonymous No.]

So how do I invest in Cover stock? My go to broker doesn't have them listed.

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>>52387781
Suck Sora's futanari Dick to gain access to the stocks

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>>52386932
>Yagoo owns 40% of issued shares
>Cover Corp's market cap exceeds $1bn
>yet his shares are only valued at 345m Yen, i.e. ~2.5m USD
What am I missing here? If he owns 40% of a company worth ~1bn, shouldn't that share be worth ~400m? Sorry if this is a dumb question, I'm a finance scrub

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>>52387151
You're an idiot. With only 38% being publicly tradable, it means the other 62% is somewhere in cover employee hands, and it's not going anywhere. Doesn't matter which members of the company have them, what matters is the public doesn't, so the public cannot get a majority or force Cover to do anything

[Anonymous No.]

Chinese money is not currency you can spend for your own goals. It's chaining yourself to following their views & sensitives. Not even worth considering unless you're prepared to fully embrace them. And I very much doubt the talents would want those restrictions.

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Oh hey holofags are using niji just to justify their own failures again, you fags should target someone weaker than you, rather than someone who has a higher market value than your company.

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>>52389106
We are on a boat that had a hole appearing

But you Nijipigs have your Yatch already become a submarine which is not far from becoming the Titan

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>>52389775
Who cares about your submarine meme burgerfag, find something more funny

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>>52388428
It's even worse than that, Chinese Money is a trap that has hollowed out and killed a lot of unsuspecting companies. The Chinese will never allow that money to leave the country, they just wind themselves deeper and deeper into the companies finances until it essentially exists only to generate more money for the Chinese who run the company in all but name.

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>>52386932
>Yagoo does not own a majority share
That is a massive disaster waiting to happen.

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>>52392078
It is a time ticking bomb

[Anonymous No.]

Wow you guys are so smart

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>>52382171
>first nail
I mean, I like Cover (because my oshi is in it), but there're been more nails than that

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>>52378426
was?

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>>52378304
/thread, kill all investorfags

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>>52385069
>EN3 and HoloEarth should be around the corner
>EN3
If Cover isn't absolutely retarded then yeah, within the next month or two
>HoloEarth
Unless by "around the corner" you mean "at least 1 more year for a public alpha test" then maybe

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>>52378304
Fuck shareholders, their questions look like troll bait

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>>52378304
All I wanna say is.. fuck the zhangs slit eyed fucks don't deserve hololive

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>>52379868
Nice fanfic

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>>52382679
based retard calling out a faggot who'll let the stockholders roll him for a crumb of their NUT.

[Anonymous No.]

So when are the JP girls gonna use their bodies to satisfy the shareholders? Things are looking grim

[Anonymous No.]

>Ignore the largest market in the world because... BECAUSE IM RACIST!

[Anonymous No.]

You anons talking about Cover investing in "long term" growth don't underatand just how truly shitty and parasitic investorfags really are. They DON'T CARE about long term growth because they want money now and if the company fails down the line, they can just pull out and invest in something else. These freaks are literally vampiric, they suck the blood now, kill the product, then go find something else to do it to. Every retarted thing they suggest is just a strategy for them to maximize the amount of blood they can suck. If we get lucky the shitty investors will go away and invest in something else they can suck blood from more easily.

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>>52393827
Can't tell if newfag or Nijitroll but either way, go back

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>>52393827
The most toxic market in the world that's the "biggest" only by sheer number of humans and economic numbers that have been faked for decades. Fuck off back to your thread Nijisister

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>>52393827
No, it's because *they're* racist, against their own people no less. If the True and Fake Chinas can resolve their problems (as if), Cover might return

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>>52393976
real as fuck

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>>52393976
Which is why I call these shareholders parasites, they infect their unsuspecting vitcims slowly extracting nutrients until they kill them from inside

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>>52393827
Go back to the blue bird website twatter

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>>52378304
reviving rushia is a good idea. if they do it properly it can be a blueprint for reviving gura.
make en3 bilingual chinese and inch back into china that way.
these are good ideas.
remember, cover built that new studio way before any ipo money showed up. yagoo is already looking to pump and dump his shares and fucking retire.

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>>52383267
>Look at Twitter now.
Trannies aren't allowed to rule the place? Are you perhaps missing your peepee, anon?

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>>52395452
These are terrible ideas, for a number of reasons, and I hope you are never in charge of anything important.