/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

this destroys the holofags

[Anonymous No.]

in what way? thats bottom tier holoJP numbers, the only holo streams I watch

[Anonymous No.]

Ironmouse probably streamed more this month than all of holoEN combined, i feel bad for holofags

[Anonymous No.]

>>52342689
I don't watch on twitch so idc much.
not like she has much competition their aswell.

btw I thought that platform is dying since many big personalities are moving to place called kick?
or so I've hear.

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>>52343193
how much of that was with her boyfriend

[Anonymous No.]

>>52343193
most holos and their fand have an actual life outside of vtubing so...
But I guess its not something I expect you or op would understand.

[Anonymous No.]

I feel for Ironmouse.
When fans recommend her to friends, they have to cite Hololive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52342689
only 10k? use better bait faggot.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm sorry, as a holofag I can't bring myself to care at all. Great job though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52343462
that's better than all of EN right now

[Anonymous No.]

>>52343193
Yeah dude I love react content and dead air too. Remember to report back in a month after the gifted subs expire just like her last subathon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52342689
Connur's hands made this post

[Anonymous No.]

>>52343253
yeah, me. i've just been watching her though.

[Anonymous No.]

>210 replies
Posting in guaranteed bait thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52343462
You retard. The numbers on Twitch are worth 4 times as much as that on Youtube.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52343490
better than no streams lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>52342689
You know a good portion HoloJP gets upwards of 12-20k live right? This isn't some epic own kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>52342689
is she sleeping with connor in the background?

[Anonymous No.]

>>52343489
why compare the top shojo to only EN faggot? that the only way to make your bait work? retard.

[Anonymous No.]

How long do you think she'd be able to stream if she wasn't allowed to steal content

[Anonymous No.]

>>52343707
because they're in the same market faggot. care to admit that EN is a failure then mr JP fag?

[Anonymous No.]

>>52343578
>b-b-but twitch better!
you fucking moron, don't post your retard bait if you have to defend it.

[Anonymous No.]

On Youtube this would work out to about 4-5k

[Anonymous No.]

>>52343819
oh you mean the site that's easier to bot than twitch? lol holofags bot their own talent to own the unicorns

[Anonymous No.]

>>52342689
you posting here because you weren't getting enough (You)s in the general?

[Anonymous No.]

>>52343819
Retarded comparison. Why do Amelia and literally every other Holo streamer get fewer viewers when they stream on Twitch?

[Anonymous No.]

>>52343755
they are all in the same vtuber market, you are literally retarded, have to be selective to "win".

[Anonymous No.]

Show Kekson's numbers

[Anonymous No.]

You guys only care about the numbers and not the streamers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52343928
I'm sure talent that speaks two completely different languages are within the same market you retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52343976
you are a fucking retard newfag that think vtubing and english fans didn't existed before any EN branches. take your 10k consolation retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52342689
>pay attention to meeeeeeeee
Fuck no

[Anonymous No.]

>>52342689
>Twitch numbers

[Anonymous No.]

>>52343956
This is literally a bait thread made by one of the tranny discords, what do you expect?

[Anonymous No.]

>>52343806
No, this is based on market value research.
Vtubers on Youtube has a wide audience ranging from 10s to 40s. However, this makes it very difficult for companies to know which age group to target when offering sponsorship.
Twitch, on the other hand, has a large number of young people in the 30-35 age range, that they spend a great deal on entertainment.

[Anonymous No.]

>another nijinigger deflection thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>52344263
actually it's a pippa NTR deflection thread

[Anonymous No.]

So why are nijicucks deflecting this time?

[Anonymous No.]

>>52344357
>>52344263
cover is a shitty company deflection posts

[Anonymous No.]

Where are the real ironmouse's fans?
Because she's a big holofag herself, I would expect her fans to be holofags as well.

[Anonymous No.]

I AM POSTING IN THE BAIT THREAD
LETS GOOOOOOOO

[Anonymous No.]

Nice bots

[Anonymous No.]

Numbertranny holofag cope about twitch is hilarious and sad, how despite their massive insecurities and how they dogpile on nijisanji to make themselves feel better, they're #2 and can't admit that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52343956
>You guys only care about the numbers and not the streamers.
>>>/vt/numbers

[Anonymous No.]

Just a reminder that Vshojo is literally irrelevant.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52344618
Yes, I totally agree.
I can't believe there are still Holofags who don't admit that Twitch's numbers are worth 4 times that of Youtube!!!

[Anonymous No.]

This bitch got FUCKED
>>52343806


By this CHAD
>>52344192

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>>52344811
VSPO INCLINING! LETS GOOOOO

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>>52344414
This is not a bait thread for her fans, this is just a bait thread for holofans like the Gura ones of tomorrow, or the Nijisanji-Mcdonalds collab of the day after. The trannies just see them as bumbling retards that allow for easy (you) farming.

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>>52344811
That's odd considering hololive members don't stream

[Anonymous No.]

>>52344811
>50+ talents are viewed more than a handful at vshojo
now break it down on average or you're a cuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>52344192
>young people in the 30-35 age range
Why I lost interest in Twitch. Last year's Twitch con was a disaster.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52342846
bottom tier is 1-3k Choco, Aki, Mel, Matsuri, Luna and probably some others. I just notice their shit numbers when i browse holodex.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52344949
Vshojo: 3.4/9=0.38
Hololive: 27.2/40=0.68

[Anonymous No.]

>>52344949
It's not my fault that your org is incapable of hiring more talent lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>52343193
>sleeping and reactshit is considered content to vshitshow
lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>52344192
>young people in the 30-35 age range
I'm 35 and wouldn't describe myself as "young" anymore.
Either way, this surprises me. I would have thought twitch would have more zoomers while older viewers would stick to youtube. I can't imagine visiting twitch for anything, the site is pure cancer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52342689
a lot of Holomems are friends with Mousey, how does this 'destroy' them?

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>>52344811

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>>52344904
VSPO buying Met and getting Tsuna was a good move.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52342689
>coughs in her general direction
<this destroys the whoremouse

[Anonymous No.]

>>52345200
They have to wait for people to graduate. Theyre not known as a retirement home for no reason

[Anonymous No.]

>>52345354
To be fair to them, that is better than the actual indie Twitch vtuber pool.

[Anonymous No.]

stop deflectng nijicuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>52345334
Yep. Theyve been doing very well lately. Good for them. Theyre setting up to be the #3 JP company after the big 2

[Anonymous No.]

>>52345180
>Vshojo: 3.4/9=0.38
>Hololive: 27.2/40=0.68
Basically, one vshojo girl is worth 4 holo girls

[Anonymous No.]

>>52344414
why would they be here?
they don't care about her numbers, they just want more cute moments with connor
>>52345238
>the site is pure cancer
are you aware of where you're posting this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>52345526
Fucking lmao. Heres a (You)

[Anonymous No.]

>>52345526
>one vshojo girl is worth 4 holo girls
*Checks numbers*
>Only 2 vshojo gets more than 4k viewers
I admit that Mouse and Zen streams a lot and I respect that, but if we are going to look at avg ccv outside the subathon mouse is not even that the top vtuber lmao. It's the korean indie.

[Anonymous No.]

Surely this thread was made in good faith.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52345754 (me)
I excluded Henya because her ccv is still stabilizing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52345526
And how many Nijisanji members is one vshojo?

[Anonymous No.]

so we forgetting how far the en branch has fallen? 8 of their talents are struggling to hit 7k average. ironmous is mogging 9 out of the 10 en members while kiara, bae, mori are getting mogged by their lowest vsj member lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>52345754
Wut. Last i checked the top vtuber group on twitch was Isegye? With Ine at the head

[Anonymous No.]

>>52345890
>kiara, bae, mori
Only in hololive would your fans leave you for talking to men or in Kiara's case for...????????

[Anonymous No.]

That only destroys CCVfags. Like I give a fuck how many people watch a chuuba ffs

[Anonymous No.]

>>52342689
10k is big?

[Anonymous No.]

>>52346060
I mean, if you aren't retarded living of smoking farts in /#/, 10k is not big but good. It's probably up in the 3-5% of streamers, and by what I seen from multiple indies, you make a decent living barely 1k and without working for someone.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52346060
Of course YES.
If you use platform transformation coefficients you will know that she gets 40k CCV on Youtube.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52342689
Niji trooning out deflection thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>52345129
Luna breaks 10k plenty, the rest of that list is dead or Matsuri

[Anonymous No.]

Just a reminder that this Koren Vtuber avgs more viewers than Ironmouse without the subathon/leeching from male youtubers. :)

[Anonymous No.]

Do they even know mouse?

[Anonymous No.]

>>52347092 (me)
>Avg CCV from the last 3 months

[Anonymous No.]

>>52346232
>It's probably up in the 3-5% of streamers
Anon, i don't know the updated stats but like last year you needed something like 250/300 viewers to be top 1%.
10k is huge if you didn't brainrot from looking at this retarded board numberfags

[Anonymous No.]

>>52342846
I've seen Korone yesterday at 9-10k, although I'm not sure if she was just starting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52343903
>Why do Amelia and literally every other Holo streamer get fewer viewers when they stream on Twitch?
Because every holo that uses twitch just uses it either as a dumping ground for guerillas of shit like valo or CS or use it exclusively for the amazon video feature, even then Ame doing a random, unscheduled stream of CSGO at 1 am in the morning will get like 5k viewers
No serious numberfag compares views on YT vs Twitch because Twitch is much less stingy about what it considers a "view". On YT the stream needs to be in your active window in order to be counted and your IP is only counted in one stream at a time, on twitch you could open like 5 different streams in 5 different tabs and be counted as a viewer in all 5 of them
IM's 10k on twitch would be like 3-5k on YT

[Anonymous No.]

>>52347092
>>52347227
yet they dont have a single member of their agency over 100k followers on twitch lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>52347795
>followers on twitch
Followers is a useless metric on twitch. Example madisonbeer have 375k followes and she avgs 40k viewers.

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>>52343253
>>52343490
>>52345202
remove all of that shit and she's still more active than any of your lazy holo en whores KEK
not to mention this bitch is literally one sneeze away from dying

[Anonymous No.]

>>52342689
Shouldn't worry about Holo, KR vtubers will soon take Twitch's throne. Subathon is over.
Kick is also growing, taking the audience from Twitch.

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>>52343193
Nothing like good old lazy react content and sleeping streams while looking at the most retarded chat twitch can offer. Quality indeed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52348739
>Kick is also growing, taking the audience from Twitch.
Do people genuinely believe this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>52349431
I mean it is? Since the big streamers are shifting platforms ofcourse there audiance will too retention is a different matter though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52349431
>Yes but only holofags
They always refuse to fight on a real platform.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52349431
I tried making an account today and I couldn't, the site does not respond.
Looked it up and it seems to be an issue they've had for half a month already.
So it seems the site is getting more traffic than it was able to handle.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52348739
besides their numbers theres nothing special about them. sub 100k followers, barely known outside of here and quite frankl dont have the same reach ironmoue does

[Anonymous No.]

>>52349675
>I mean it is?
No? All the big streamers they have are basically pouched contract signees
And even then guys like xQc have clauses that allow them to still stream on twitch (aka they're not going anywhere)
As well big names like Pokimane or Shroud shitting on them for hard they push gambling
The whole situation just screams Mixer 2.0 to me, like people want an alternative to Twitch but every alternative is a house cards ready to fall over that has to pay people to get them to stream there

[Anonymous No.]

>numbers
oh boy

[Anonymous No.]

>>52350311
I mean they get more viewers on daily stream then ironmouses buff content, it just means ironmouse has many inactive followers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52342689
Average CCV:
Usada Pekora: 25,002
Houshou Marine: 18,268
Hoshimashi Suisei: 21,027
Sakura Miko: 26,104
Oozora Subaru: 19,365
Minato Aqua: 29,689

I'm sure there's plenty more HoloJP members who beat that, but I'm too lazy to look them up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52350591
That is why I said
>Retention is a different matter
Mixer didn't have as many users as kick, and kick has a lot of more money to invest because there sole purpose is to make a platform to promotes stakes gambling, if it gets its shit together it's a direct competition to twitch which i think is what kick is aiming for, twitch streamers and vtubers by extension would not want to move on YouTube because there content won't survive there, but that doesn't mean they won't jump ship to kick the moment it becomes a viable option.
Also letting the streamers who have signed with kick still stream on twitch is bad for them, they aren't making any money there so they will do their best to funnel the viewers on kick where they can directly accept 95% of sub money for every stremer that moves to kick for every viewers that follow them they are making a loss.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52351031
Twitch's numbers are worth four times that of Youtube.
That you couldn't find HoloJP with 40k+ CCV proved how IM's popularity is real.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52345297
Because OP is a nijidrone trying to stir conflict and it's not even good bait because Ironmouse recently had a 20k stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52345526
Figures the vshojo cuck can't do math

[Anonymous No.]

>>52351430
However, Vshojo's equation is incorrect.
These nine include newcomer henya, traitor nazuna, and non-streamer hajime.
I fixed it.
27.2/6=0.57
Vshojos are more popular than Hololive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52345526
>Vshojo: 3.4/9=0.38
>Hololive: 27.2/54 = 0.50
Can you at least get your numbers right? Hololive have 54 members.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52351971
kek
Holofags got the number of talents wrong, even though they only talk about numbers, not "real popularity".

[Anonymous No.]

Vshojo: 3.4/(9-3)=0.57
Hololive: 27.2/54=0.50

naruhodo

[Anonymous No.]

>>52351156
I can't argue with that.

[Anonymous No.]

Don't calculate the niji avg because the discord sisters might get mad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52349431
>>52350311
It's only the beginning. The trend is there, and Twitch can't help doing another Yab.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52345129
Akirose pulls 5/6k very easily
Luna pulls 10k viewers very easily
Choco Sensei can easily pull 15k with some ASMR
Roboco Matsuri and Mel are all shitters but can still pull much better numbers than the iron lung if they have other Holomembers on their streams.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52345526
AHAHHAHAHAHAHAAH
VShitshow cuck are genuinely pathetic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52342689
No it doesn't. It's not anywhere close to Gura. YT culls vtuber live numbers as well. This has been proven. It started in December 2020 and was never fixed. The like to watching ratio for HoloEN is always over 100% lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>52344928
Watame, Koyori and Kaela stream more than your fake ill whore but whatever.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52352693
>YT culls
It's 2023 anon stop coping it's been 2 years.

[Anonymous No.]

Apparently, Holofags are jealous of the success of mousey's subthon.
Because, unlike mousey, Hololive members don't have creative streams and friends who do everything.
That's why they're coping with it like this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52351156
Vshitshow cucks and trying to shill their shitty platform, name a more iconic duo.
Pekora used to pull off 25k on Minecraft when she was streaming on twitch back in 2021. What does that mean to you cuck, now?

[Anonymous No.]

>>52352821
>25k in 2021
>lockdown
Remember, twitch fans are smart.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52352770
Ya man, I'm so jealous of your grifter spick oshi who sleeps on stream while you cucks watch her boyfriend play games.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52353159
Unlike you Holofags, I am a healthy man and enjoy real entertainment, not just GFE.
It's a shame I can't share with you the excitement of helping her friends to make mousey's subathon a success.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52352537
can but they don't. Whenever choco streams in a collab with multiple povs her numbers are the lowest, same with games. Coomerbait gives her numbers nothing else. Luna is in no way a 10K regular. Matsuri can also very easy get 10k if she pulls out the Gacha but next stream she will be back to her old numbers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52352948
She pulls like 30k or even 40k on random streams today too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52353295
Yes real entertainment like stealing videos off youtube for react content. Because I'm 60 years old and I still long to watch America's Funniest Home Videos.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52343903
I literally had no idea she even did stuff on twitch.
>>52347359
fubukers clears like 70-80k on her aniversary with the rest of okfam was a kino as fuck stream
>>52344357
camelot has a fursuit tailor living with him in his home, the picture was of her. he literally manufactured the drama for content.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52345526
the holoseethe is hilarious

[Anonymous No.]

>>52353428
>but on YOUTUBE
kek, Twitch is the only real platform. numbers on Tiktok/Youtube are not numbers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52353454
However, "reaction" is a popular content even on Japanese TV show. Why is it OK for them to do it, but not for Twitch?
PLZ answer logically.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52353539
pogchamp!

[Anonymous No.]

>twitch dying roastie

[Anonymous No.]

>twitchtubers mogging so hard they need to use JP numbers to compare
el oh el

[Anonymous No.]

>>52353681
How did losers who ran away from competing on the real platform "Twitch" and are active on Youtube mistakenly think they can beat Twitch streamers?

[Anonymous No.]

>>52353585
A better question, why are you comparing vtubers who are restricted to only gaming content with a variety streamer who can stream what ever the fuck she wants to, copyright be damned. Do you think Holos would be allowed to sleep on stream or let their IRL friends do shit on stream while she's not even Conscious?

You may as well tell me CookieSwirlC is the biggest vtuber.

[Anonymous No.]

>proud of being an Ironcuck
You be simping her while he is pimping her

[Anonymous No.]

>>52353962
>while he is pimping her
Isn't that the other way round?

[Anonymous No.]

>>52352821
Holocucks this upset vtubers on other platforms besides youtube can be succesful

[Anonymous No.]

>>52342689
Taken from numbernigger general, so you can go fuck with them if you want to dispute the comparison.
I just want to know why you guys like Ironmouse. I'll be honest, her voice filtered me the first time I tried to watch her. I know she has some chronic death disease, but I can't listen to her for more than 10 minutes. It's like Kiara's voice but somehow worse. Like she's trying to maintain a screechy tone, and forcing a high-pitched voice at the same time. I just can't.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52352598
Oh hey its the literal who lost to ironmouse in q2
ROMAO

[Anonymous No.]

>>52353585
NTA, but react content is boring and gay. At least if you're playing a game you have to talk and make it interesting somehow. With react content 90% of the entertainment comes from the videos themselves and the streamer is maybe providing 10%. Watching Fauna play a game for example is very different experience than playing the game itself, but if I'm just watching the videos that Iron Lung is reacting to it's the exact same whether or not she's there. It's not even really transformative. It's just lazy and gay, and anyone who enjoys this content probably enjoys the taste of semen.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52354633
Amazing how Fubuki can be in two gens at the same time and take two spots in the rank as well.

[Anonymous No.]

I passed by her stream for like a minute before going to Sayu's stream and got gifted an Ironmouse sub. What does this get me exactly? Do I get a cripple blowjob?

[Anonymous No.]

>>52354531
Funny thing to say when you make this thread op, sound like you bitching because you know she can't survive without connor.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52354959
She's had a higher ccv then 8/10 holoen members even without connor. Kinda sad only two members can average higher then 7k nowadays huh

[Anonymous No.]

>>52354633
twitch aderall zoomies would bleed and die for their platform and Jesus bezos

[Anonymous No.]

>>52355096
Before subathon she was averaging 7k
you can brag about mouse all you want this month but she will alwasy be a shitter and will never acomplish anyhting on her own and wihtout the help of conor.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52342689
will they ever recover?

[Anonymous No.]

>>52342689
Rorurumao

[Anonymous No.]

>>52343193
Because her stream is never off and she literally has sleeping streams. It's weird that twitchnigs post shit like "if you watch more than one girl you have problems and should touch grass" and then literally advocate for streamers whose streams are always on for maximum simp farming. Being a simp is infinitely worse than being a 'unicorn'.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52359290
Irys has 8k at the same time too.

[Anonymous No.]

Mori or Suisei shill their BD or albums

>"She must be broke. I though holos made money hand over fist. Probably wants to graduate soon. Explain this holokeks!"

Ironmouse begging for subs on a regular basis.

>"this destroys the holofags"

Dress it up as a subathon with charity sprinkled on top, it still looks desperate

[Anonymous No.]

>>52359507
>>52359290
Both lost to ironmouse’s 14k today
ROMAO

[Anonymous No.]

>>52342689
Retard shit like this is why we celebrate vwhorejo drama.
Damn I just wish that ironlung bitch dies from whatever fake sickness she has to make one hundred post celebrating her death.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52353962
I am gay for connur so it actually the other way around

[Anonymous No.]

>>52359892
>Mori or Suisei shill their BD or albums
>>"She must be broke. I though holos made money hand over fist. [...]"
But nobody has ever said this about Suisei.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52361294
Enjoy all future ironmouse x hololive collabs anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>52345631
try spamming emotes here, see what happens. There's this type of cancer that is ironic and there's twitch version of cancer that is unironic

[Anonymous No.]

>>52361294
>Retard shit like this is why we celebrate vwhorejo drama.
Congratulations, you fell for bait posts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52342689
I'm convinced that numberfags are normie tier subhuman trash.

[Anonymous No.]

No it doesn't. It's not anywhere close to Gura.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52342689
uh, no? Should have typed HoloENfags and not holofags retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52365729
even that doesn't work. Mumei's karaoke had 17K last week.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52348618
>not to mention this bitch is literally one sneeze away from dying
>he actually believes this

[Anonymous No.]

>>52365708
You're right 10k is nowhere to gura's 0

[Anonymous No.]

>>52344904
They actually reclined because 3 of their biggest vtubers quit the company (because its shit)

[Anonymous No.]

>>52342689
10k on twitch is about 5k in YouTube thanks to all their culling any sort of half inactive and AdBlock viewers bullshit.
Yeah I bet everyone is seething about it, btw how many charge backs?

[Anonymous No.]

Jesus mousefags are braindead. This thread feels like it's full of actual children

[Anonymous No.]

>>52345129
>>52347359
are you retards seriously comparing inflated twitch numbers to culled youtube ones?
You have to multiply the youtube ones at least 4-fold if you want a fair comparison.
Youtube doesnt count multiple tabs, tab out, muted and embedded views. It also doesnt count you as a view if you have a 3rd party extension installed in your browser like addblockers etc.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52367455
Ironmouse has to beg for subs. Gura sits on so many subs she only streams when she wants to. Yeah I know she's never around but I'm not cuck enough to let you get mad on my behalf. I pay her $5 a month streams or no streams, deal with it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52368011
>Jesus mousefags are braindead
That's just Twitch kiddies in general.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52349675
Half the viewers are bots and all their signings are overpaid brandrisks. Not to mention the app overheats any phone using it

[Anonymous No.]

>>52342689
Mumei pulled 13k for a completely unannounced Karaoke at 3 in the goddamn morning and she doesn't speak Japanese like IRyS/Mori.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52367856
Your calculation is wrong.
The number on Twitch is worth 4 times that on Youtube.
Therefore, 10k on twitch equals 40k on youtube.

[Anonymous No.]

This is why i hate anyone associate with the TT crew and mouse beggar

[Anonymous No.]

>>52348618
>ironlung fags fell for the sick and dying grift
Lemao, 2 more weeks trust the plan

[Anonymous No.]

>>52342689
almost all of holoJP is pulling these numbers every single stream, and even EN sometimes, just buy an ad and go away faggot

[Anonymous No.]

>>52342689
Only 10k with inflated Twitch numbers and a western audience? lol lmao
HoloJPs regularly pull these numbers and much higher, as do some HoloENs, and they're culled and at far more of a disadvantage on YouTube than those on Twitch. Get on their level, ironlung.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52371423
>disadvantage
Why is holos not getting numbers on Twitch and fighting on fossil platforms? The answer is simple...because it is so easy to buy bots on youtube!
They will only get 5k on Twitch where they can't use magic, kek

Twitch is the only real platform and Twitch Vtubers are the only real Vtubers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52372145
>Why is holos not getting numbers on Twitch and fighting on fossil platforms?
Because it's not their main platform and not where their audience is. It's on YouTube.
>because it is so easy to buy bots on youtube!
And it's even easier on Twitch. Which just speaks to them not buying bots on YouTube or Twitch.
>They will only get 5k on Twitch where they can't use magic, kek
Just because your Twitch whores use bots because Twitch literally does not care about them and nor does anything to combat them doesn't mean others do, Twitch kiddie.
>Twitch is the only real platform and Twitch Vtubers are the only real Vtubers.
For those who use bots to inflate numbers, yes.
YouTube is, and always will be, a more real, better and more reliable platform than Twitch. Seethe about it, Twitch kiddie.