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Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:03:58 2023 No.52210940
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*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://www.hololive-songs.com/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber
>https://www.nijiuta.com/

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:05:34 2023 No.52211025 I think it's only gonna be males that will graduate next. The girls are too dependent on the money (as little as it is)

Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:06:57 2023 No.52211130

>>52210858
>Newfags Kiara said it herself, moona implied there was one and it was an assumption everyone made when zeta said she spoke to the orange one before his debut. That’s usually impossible cross branch
Anon you are probably thinking about the company wide server which the starsjp and holojp also has access to which astel and miyabi has also mentioned and implied
Its how aruran and aki planned for their collab and where nenes manager talked with the boys after that encounter
You are confusing server for a channel

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:07:02 2023 No.52211131 GRIM

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:07:52 2023 No.52211162 >>52210896 Learn to do the OP correctly you dumb phasekek

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:07:59 2023 No.52211167 >>52211053 Anon is confusing server with channels which everyone under hololive production has access to

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:08:06 2023 No.52211175 Alarming number of people last thread who were unable to process a hypothetical scenario and just assumed it was people wishing for something.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:08:46 2023 No.52211199 >>52210896 this is how nijisanji operates >debut people >mistreat others to graduate them >generate interest by debuting more people >fans just move to the new toys

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:08:53 2023 No.52211209 >>52211175 What hypothetical scenario?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:08:55 2023 No.52211213 File: 215 KB, 1280x720, maxresdefault (13).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>52210896 NIJISANJI IN SHAMBLES HOLOLIVE THRIVING THANK ME YAGOO

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:09:04 2023 No.52211223 >>52211039 >what does hololive do that makes them so much more competent at preventing leaks? unironically by not having any talents that are here 24/7

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:09:17 2023 No.52211233 File: 1.03 MB, 1080x1670, 1687767289686083.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Is this true?

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>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:09:57 2023 No.52211266 i heard this general is the most based thread in /vt/ how do i join your clique

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:10:40 2023 No.52211307 >>52211266 You can start by killing yourself.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:11:07 2023 No.52211346 >>52211266 Hate nijisanji

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Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:11:19 2023 No.52211357

>>52211039
Management keeps their talents relatively happy and well paid so there's less reason for them to want to leak shit unless they want to get fired.
Rushia's firing was important in that it told the other girls that it doesn't matter who you are (she was the #1 SC girl), break NDA and your ass is fired. Any of the girls paying attention could see how Rushia had been floundering without Hololive.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:11:22 2023 No.52211360 >>52211209 People debating whether or not X number of talents leaving quickly would harm Cover like it would Niji. Somebody gives a scenario where certain members leave quickly and retards take that as wishing for those members to leave.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:11:26 2023 No.52211364 >>52211266 ask elira

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:11:48 2023 No.52211387 Do not look at the numbers of the krisis blonde shota

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:11:52 2023 No.52211393 >>52211233 Yes, and it even undersells how much Pippa defended the guy

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>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:12:03 2023 No.52211406 File: 133 KB, 1068x255, nijienemy.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] GET IN HERE https://youtu.be/grN2W-byLUQ https://youtu.be/grN2W-byLUQ

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:12:05 2023 No.52211409 >another tribalfag OP Number truly reclined.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:12:16 2023 No.52211421 >>52211346 >hating nijishitters >being obsessed with a company of failures >not loving hololive instead Fag

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:12:35 2023 No.52211444 How big will Nina's graduation stream be? Can we expect >50k CCV?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:12:42 2023 No.52211455 >>52211233 im actually surprised that people didnt know about the camelotXpippa thing since he's been hinting it even before their collab

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:12:57 2023 No.52211470 >>52210959 It'll take time for the "culture" to change or a niche to open up for that type of content. Corporate probably won't be willing to wait though.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:13:00 2023 No.52211478 >>52210059 NDA is NOT a Non-compete you retard. Even if you were slightly smarter than a retard a Non-compete wouldn’t be enforceable anyway. >her NDA with cover expired anon which is why she was able to go to vshojo Just to save time your exact words

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:13:11 2023 No.52211488 >>52211409 >not even a holo OP Grim

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:13:26 2023 No.52211504 >>52211444 I honestly think it might be surprisingly large if the sisters show up to hate-watch it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:13:33 2023 No.52211509 >>52211360 Unless the reason for graduation was mistreatment, Hololive can withstand up to 5 members graduating.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:13:49 2023 No.52211529 >>52211444 10k. 20k is the maximum I can kinda justify in my mind

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:13:53 2023 No.52211530 >>52211233 phasekeks....

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:14:18 2023 No.52211547 >>52211478 >not knowing that nda is also a factor in getting hired in a job in the same field of work as your last job unless of course your only job is flipping burgers

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:14:21 2023 No.52211550 >>52210921 Retard

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:14:28 2023 No.52211558 Reminder that during the pippa drama, this thread was basically free of blatant tribalfaggotry. The usual phasefags were off in the catalog, but now that Nina graduation has dropped they're back.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:14:34 2023 No.52211561 >>52211444 Depends what it is. If she has all the others come on and chat and do stuff like Sana or Coco, maybe yeah. If it's just her talking to her fans I don't see 50k.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:14:44 2023 No.52211570 >>52211409 Nijisanji is the ancestral enemy of /vt/

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:15:00 2023 No.52211585 >>52211266 Praise Pekora.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:15:01 2023 No.52211588 >>52211444 half what gundou got

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>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:15:05 2023 No.52211591 >>52210896 >Niji burning down This worries me. It's good to have cancer collected in one place, it's another thing when it gets smeared everywhere. I hope the ones that graduate leave vtubers alone for good and stop dragging everyone down.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:15:25 2023 No.52211610 >>52211558 >everyone who hates nijisanji is a phase fag Do nijiniggers really

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:15:34 2023 No.52211618 >>52211529 She just got 20k for the announcement, are you perhaps retarded?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:15:38 2023 No.52211621 >>52211130 No

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:15:51 2023 No.52211637 >>52210959 Hololive is the America of the vtuber world

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:16:08 2023 No.52211662 >>52211561 She already said she will have most (if not all) of NijiEN on the final stream

Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:16:14 2023 No.52211667
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* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *

>42,774: Pekora (Hololive)
>36,077: Korone (Hololive)
>34,060: AZKi (Hololive)
>21,629: Lauren (Nijisanji)
>17,920: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>16,056: Botan (Hololive)
>15,063: Mio (Hololive)
>14,300: Nagao (Nijisanji)
>13,858: Reid (Neo-Porte)
>12,734: Nene (Hololive)
>12,352: Koyori (Hololive)
>11,999: Lamy (Hololive)
>11,469: Okayu (Hololive)
>11,069: Met (VSPO)
>10,299: Hayato (Nijisanji)
>10,091: Luna (Hololive)
>10,029: NeruMero (Indie)

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:16:17 2023 No.52211669 >>52211610 >feels called out enough to reply Too obvious

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:16:52 2023 No.52211703 >>52211444 Who cares? Pekora will once again have a whole lineup of collabs/ events before her anniversary stream so she will most certainly take the gold on the fox's graduation day.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:16:53 2023 No.52211705 >>52211223 >he doesn't know Nah the real reason is that cover actually treats their talents well unlike niji "you'll get 2% and you will like it" sanji

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:16:54 2023 No.52211706 >>52211662 so 50k? probably 70k

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:16:55 2023 No.52211709 >>52211618 I stand-by with my prediction

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:17:25 2023 No.52211732 File: 27 KB, 304x304, 1687248447305728.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] who lost who won

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Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:17:35 2023 No.52211747
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>>52211667
>JUNE 2023 GOLDS
1) Aki (Hololive) - 76,042 - Anniversary 3D Live
2) Beni (VSPO) - 74,883 - 3D Debut
3) Chiroru (Indie) - 55,592 - Hanshin Tigers vs Chiba Lotte Marines Watchalong
4) Marine (Hololive) - 36,348 - Pyschological Drawing Test
5) Aqua (Hololive) - 66,563 - Apex
6) Watame (Hololive) - 84,756 - Birthday 3D Live
7) Pekora (Hololive) - 38,203 - Old Coin Pusher Friends (w/ Okayu, Noel, Polka)
8) Suisei (Hololive) - 57,303 - Hairstyle Reveal
9) Hinano (VSPO) - 87,282 - 3D Debut
10) Aqua (Hololive) - 68,208 - Startend Apex
11) Lui (Hololive) - 94,286 - Birthday 3D Live
12) Pekora (Hololive) - 69,800 - Only Up
13) Tsukasa Tenkai (Indie) - 49,747 - Mahjong League
14) Pekora (Hololive) - 36,953 - Sankisei Left 4 Dead
15) Flare (Hololive) - 49,298 - 1 Million Endurance Karaoke
16) Air (Nijisanji) - 53,257 - 3D Debut
17) Qpi (VSPO) - 55,763 - 3D Debut
18) Iroha (Hololive) - 101,527 - Birthday 3D Live
19) Pekora (Hololive) - 55,917 - Clubhouse 51 (w/ Shion)
20) Suisei (Hololive) - 29,259 - Minecraft
21) Gundou (Nijisanji) - 97,059 - Graduation Stream
22) Miko (Hololive) - 39,449 - Minecraft (w/ Suisei)
23) Fubuki (Hololive) - 82,920 - Anniversary Stream
24) Fubuki (Hololive) - 78,494 - Model Update
25) Korone (Hololive) - 69,947 - Street Fighter 6 Tournament
26) Pekora (Hololive) - 42,774 - Only Up

>PER COMPANY
19x: Hololive
3x: VSPO
2x: Indie, Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
5x: Pekora
2x: Aqua, Fubuki, Suisei
1x: Air, Aki, Beni, Chiroru, Flare, Gundou, Hinano, Iroha, Korone, Lui, Marine, Miko, Qpi, Tsukasa, Watame

>2023 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
135x: Hololive
26x: Nijisanji
7x: Indie
5x: VSPO
4x: Neo Porte

>PER STREAMER
47x: Pekora
16x: Miko
14x: Marine
7x: Subaru
6x: Toya
5x: Suisei
4x: Hal
3x: Aqua, Chiroru, Hololive, Iroha, Kuzuha, Mio, Okayu, Koyori, Towa
2x: Aki, Fubuki, Hinano, Korone, Lamy, Lui, Nerumero, Nijisanji, Salome, Watame
1x: Air, Ayame, Beni, Chloe, Choco, Flare, Fuwa, Gaku, Gura, Gundou, Hibari, Himawari, Ina, Kanata, Kanato, Kiara, Laplus, Mel, Mito, Mori, Nose, Nozomi, Polka, Ponto, Qpi, Roco, Ryushen, Shion, Tsukasa, Ui, Yashiro

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:18:07 2023 No.52211772 >>52211570 >nijisanji You mean numbers.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:18:24 2023 No.52211787 >>52211669 >everyone who calls out my bullshit can only do so because they felt called out Do nijiniggers really

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:18:37 2023 No.52211793 When Hololive gets a graduation, I will laugh at all your fucking faces

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>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:18:58 2023 No.52211805 >>52211772 Numbers is the heart of /vt/, and that heart tells me to hate nijisanji

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:19:03 2023 No.52211812 >>52211357 She was number 1 in a pretty meaningless metric they’re lots of number 1s in different metrics in Hololive. Nobody is safe from breaking the rules though

Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:19:21 2023 No.52211827
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*FINAL EN TALLY OF THE DAY*

>6/26 DAILY TALLY
7,060: Mori (Hololive)
6,951: Fauna (Hololive)
6,825: Vantacrow (Nijisanji)
6,706: Amelia (Hololive)
5,082: Yu (Nijisanji)

>EN GOLDS FOR JUNE 2023
1) Baelz (Hololive) - 6,456 - Unarchived Karaoke
2) Shu (Nijisanji) - 8,671 - Mojipittan Encore (w/ Petra, Sonny, Oliver)
3) Fauna (Hololive) - 8,010 - Amanda the Adventurer
4) Kiara (Hololive) - 10,955 - 3D Switch Sports (w/ Amelia)
5) Kiara (Hololive) - 10,829 - 3D Karaoke (w/ Amelia)
6) Amelia (Hololive) - 7,060 - 3D Offcollab (w/ Kiara)
7) Mori (Hololive) - 7,791 - Karaoke + Announcement
8) Fauna (Hololive) - 10,478 - 3D ASMR
9) Fauna (Hololive) - 9,225 - Minecraft
10) Ina (Hololive) - 14,002 - Switch Sports (w/ Henya)
11) Ren (Nijisanji) - 14,314 - Unarchived Karaoke
12) Ike (Nijisanji) - 10,765 - Birthday Stream
13) Fauna (Hololive) - 10,449 - Minecraft
14) Kronii (Hololive) - 5,976 - Diablo IV
15) Roca (Idol) - 7,647 - Debut Stream
16) Fauna (Hololive) - 10,637 - Bread & Fred (w/ Kronii)
17) Mori (Hololive) - 8,412 - Getting Over It
18) Alban (Nijisanji) - 46,895 - Outfit Reveal
19) Ina (Hololive) - 9,183 - Karaoke
20) Fauna (Hololive) - 9,723 - Minecraft
21) Gura (Hololive) - 44,596 - Birthday Stream
22) Fauna (Hololive) - 10,153 - ASMR
23) Amelia (Hololive) - 8,236 - Unarchived Karaoke
24) Mumei (Hololive) - 18,073 - Unarchived Karaoke
25) Yu (Nijisanji) - 43,037 - Debut Stream
26) Mori (Hololive) - 7,060 - Final Fantasy XVI

>PER COMPANY
20x: Hololive
5x: Nijisanji
1x: Idol

>PER STREAMER
7x: Fauna
3x: Mori
2x: Amelia, Ina, Kiara
1x: Alban, Baelz, Gura, Ike, Kronii, Mumei, Ren, Roca, Shu, Yu

>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
52p: Fauna
23p: Ina, Kronii
22p: Mori
18p: Amelia
10p: Kiara
6p: Baelz, Mumei, Shu
5p: Alban, Gura, Ike, Ren, Roca, Yu
4p: Luca, Vantacrow
3p: Enna, IRyS, Mysta, Nina, Poko, Uki
2p: Fulgur
1p: Magni, Vezalius

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:19:26 2023 No.52211837 >>52211787 Next time you make the thread with bait OP, at least post the tally's, just copy and paste and attach an image

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:19:30 2023 No.52211844 >>52211793 Ah I love the taste of nijinigger tears in the morning

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:19:36 2023 No.52211852 >>52211547 anon my industry has people signing ndas left and right and they don't take a year off before swapping companies are you serious? silicon valley wouldn't exist.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:19:58 2023 No.52211864 >>52211844 Stop samefagging

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:20:08 2023 No.52211877 So what's next after HoloENConnect? Doesn't feel like HoloEN can do anything else afterwards and the magic has been gone for almost 2 years.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:20:20 2023 No.52211889 >>52211406 You’re a faggot

Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:20:27 2023 No.52211900
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>>52211827
>2023 EN GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
131x: Hololive
43x: Nijisanji
2x: Holostars
1x: Idol

>PER STREAMER
20x: Fauna
19x: Mori
14x: IRyS
12x: Baelz, Gura, Ina, Mumei
11x: Kronii
10x: Amelia
9x: Vox
8x: Kiara
5x: Mysta
4x: Selen, Shu
3x: Pomu
2x: Alban, Finana, Ike, Luca, Ren
1x: Enna, Elira, Flayon, Fulgur, Hololive English, Luxiem, Millie, Regis, Roca, Rosemi, Sonny, Yu

>2023 POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
194p: Fauna
139p: Ina
136p: Mori
120p: IRyS
109p: Mumei
106p: Baelz
88p: Kronii
79p: Amelia
74p: Vox
70p: Kiara
60p: Gura
56p: Mysta
47p: Luca
33p: Shu
31p: Selen
19p: Ike
17p: Pomu
15p: Enna
14p: Uki
13p: Finana
11p: Axel, Fulgur, Ren, Sonny
10p: Alban, Elira
9p: Millie
7p: Regis
6p: Rosemi
5p: Flayon, Hololive English, Luxiem, Roca, Yu
4p: Magni, Nina, Vantacrow, Vesper
3p: Bettel, Hakka, Kotoka, Poko
1p: Maria, Meloco, Shinri, Pippa, Vezalius

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:20:44 2023 No.52211914 >>52211864 Nijiseethe

Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:20:46 2023 No.52211918

https://www.resetera.com/threads/virtual-youtuber-ot2-clap-clap-next-thread.452203/page-1409#post-108028404

Yeah, that’s the reason (completely ignoring that before males joined, she was relatively liked among le spooky right-wing 4chan for her taste in games) and not because she was harassed for interacting with Luxium.

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>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:21:03 2023 No.52211939 Time to come to this Hololive thread in a Hololive board >non-holo OP pic >nothing but niji and phase discussion I will come back later then

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:21:07 2023 No.52211946 >>52211793 >all of HoloJP saying they will extend The closest possible would be Homos. I don't think anybody would care.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:21:08 2023 No.52211948 >>52211732 Luocha won SW lost

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:21:15 2023 No.52211961 >>52211877 >blatant nijinigger deflection post

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:21:43 2023 No.52211983 >>52211409 You have one guy spamming images on cd and another faggot advertising a dramatuber. There is no number thread anymore

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:22:05 2023 No.52212007 >>52211939 This is the laugh at nijisanji thread at the moment, come back ina few hours once the novelty has worn off

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:22:29 2023 No.52212029 File: 263 KB, 366x558, 1616067332737.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>52211877 >>52211793 Shu is next

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:22:37 2023 No.52212036 >>52211406 OH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NIJIKEKS DON'T LOOK

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:22:40 2023 No.52212041 File: 1.41 MB, 1096x2004, 1663491267027262.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>52211983 >spamming images

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:23:06 2023 No.52212062 >>52211852 That’s how you know they’ve never worked jobs before it’s probably retarded high schoolers on break

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:23:07 2023 No.52212065 >>52211983 Number has not been about numbers since May.

Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:23:09 2023 No.52212067

>>52211961
I didnt mean to come off that way but I'm just genuinely feeling empty towards them, i'll watch the stream version of the concert but i just cannot being myself to get hype knowing there isn't the surprise of 3Ds, new gen hype, collabs, etc, etc.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:23:39 2023 No.52212101 >>52211793 You'll laugh in 2 weeks when Suisei graduates

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:24:00 2023 No.52212122 >>52211529 she got 20k watching in this stream that happened only 1hour after the announcement so 50k+ next friday is totally possible

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:24:08 2023 No.52212127 >>52212065 You can thank all out war for that

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:24:11 2023 No.52212131 >>52212067(me) Bring*

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:24:26 2023 No.52212141 >>52212041 Fauna milk...

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>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:25:18 2023 No.52212191 >>52212127 >something that happened in 2022 is responsible for something that happened in May 2023 Low IQ lmao

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:25:29 2023 No.52212205 Is there anyone other than HoloJP doing good this year?

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>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:26:04 2023 No.52212242 >>52212205 Itsogae and stellive I guess.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:26:22 2023 No.52212254 >>52212191 >he thinks it started in may 2023 how new are you?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:26:27 2023 No.52212261 >>52212205 Fauna from hololive English

Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:27:09 2023 No.52212301

After skimming last through a little bit, I'm genuinely surprised so many legitimately think, in a hypothetical scenario where important first army members like Peko/Miko/Marine/Suisei graduate, that Cover/Hololive would do perfectly fine still.

Listen, I get if you want so say someone like Korone because ultimately her content is absurdly niche and her fanbase is probably the most alienated of the big holos, as they pretty much only watch Korone and people who surround themselves around her. I GET that, but if Pekora were to graduate, you think Holo would just carry on like nothing? Like, the girl who literally creates the meta for hololive, is one of the only ones who generates tourists, produces some of the highest sales in the company and is pretty much the face of livestreaming is on a whole completely different planet compared to someone like Rushia, who just did GFE for losers. And if that got coupled with Marine graduating, that'd be a literal killing blow to like 50% of viewership strictly off graduation depression and moving on in life.
Or a Suisei graduation? Dude if she's gone 95% of holoJP's music scene would just evaporate in an instant. I think people are genuinely underselling just how important first army members are to the actual holoJP landscape and how it operates and performs.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:27:23 2023 No.52212316 >>52212205 Vspo? Their numbers should be higher compared to last year.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:27:36 2023 No.52212327 >>52212254 Anon said, since May, which means prior to May apparently we had number discussion. He's wrong, but you're just a retard kek

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:27:53 2023 No.52212344 >>52212205 HoloEN once we got EN3 this year

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:28:08 2023 No.52212352 >>52212041 Sapkeks treating this as their slum truly makes this thread shitter than it should be. They are the parasites of numbers.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:28:29 2023 No.52212370 why is sapkek spamming her lewds?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:28:30 2023 No.52212372 >>52212254 It started with Luxium… no, let’s be honest, it started with Ethytia and Enna poisoning the whole culture. Luxium just finished it off.

Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:29:09 2023 No.52212407

>>52211637
I mean, they kinda are? I'm not up to date with my geopolitics but I'm pretty sure that America isn't the richest country in the world nor do they excel in anything significant like tech or education. But the moment that uncle sam decides to fuck you over for real, you ARE gonna get fucked. America still dictates how the world ultimately looks but to stop this post from turning into /pol/ fodder, yeah Hololive currently dictates what a vtuber is and isn't. They dictate what vtubers should aspire to be and what their ultimate goals should be. It's the reason why Nijisanji who is suppose to exemplify the vtuber doctrine of "streamers with an avatar" ultimately switched over to a more idol-like business model. It's why VShoujo, even during its peak, wanted to hold concerts and do lore shit. Because Hololive did it. It's why a supposed FPS focused vtuber group like VSPO is starting to emulate the Holobox strategy and it won't surprise me if they also start focusing on idol reps in the future. So yes, as long as Hololive is King, everything is going to be judged on where they fall on the idol compass.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:29:17 2023 No.52212415 File: 1.74 MB, 1754x1229, 1670727649407867.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>52212352 >>52212370

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:29:18 2023 No.52212417 File: 1.32 MB, 1484x840, 1686798193082640.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>52210896 >nijisanji graduations left and right >meanwhile hololive Where did it go so wrong?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:29:18 2023 No.52212418 >2 yab in quick succession hololive winning by doing nothing yet again!!

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:29:39 2023 No.52212434 >>52212370 Cucklings wish their worthless whore was like Pekora, and try to lewdpost her the same way we do with Pekora.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:29:48 2023 No.52212440 >>52211918 Why the fuck are you bothering reading the seething sjw forum? Why the fuck are the LINKING the seething sjw forum?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:30:24 2023 No.52212472 File: 322 KB, 1224x2048, 1682453385298682.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>52212434

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:30:28 2023 No.52212478 >>52212301 >Dude if she's gone 95% of holoJP's music scene would just evaporate in an instant. Hoshiniggers really believe this btw

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:30:31 2023 No.52212481 >>52212067 I like how no-one had an actual answer so they just called you a nijinigger. Well you feel that way because you just simply don't like HoloEN anymore or you're just a FOTM chasing retard.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:30:32 2023 No.52212483 >>52212418 what yab holodrone

Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:30:33 2023 No.52212484

>>52212301
Anon I know you want to push this but theres a reason why people laugh at your scenario and thats because of the box and the funnels which makes them a lot more stable compared to Nijisanji
The first army graduating would hurt hololive sure but the equivalent of nijisanji graduating would actually kill the whole company

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:30:37 2023 No.52212487 >>52212407 >pretty sure that America isn't the richest country in the world Bro what have you been sniffing?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:30:44 2023 No.52212489 >>52212301 It would hurt but it's not gonna bankrupt them or drop everyone to 5k streamers like the Niji JP girls.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:31:17 2023 No.52212516 >>52212418 >if I labeled all holoyab as "manufactured", there is no holoyab at all!

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:31:23 2023 No.52212524 File: 404 KB, 850x1174, 1656361511926293.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>52212472

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:31:24 2023 No.52212527 >>52212483 >nijiniggers in denial You love to see it

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:31:42 2023 No.52212543 >>52212481 >I like how no-one had an actual answer so they just called you a nijinigger its mostly because we know he's the rimjob anon

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:31:45 2023 No.52212546 File: 729 KB, 559x894, image_2023-06-26_203134266.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:31:59 2023 No.52212557 File: 31 KB, 480x502, 1675383922868016.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>52212407 >America isn't the richest country in the world nor do they excel in anything significant like tech or education

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:32:16 2023 No.52212572 >>52212434 I am glad fauna is better than pekora. Fauna wasn't creamed on in 3d by hypno oji, but ogey

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>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:33:01 2023 No.52212612 >>52212527 nta but a graduation in good terms is not a yab though

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:33:35 2023 No.52212626 >>52212407 Hololive is no more a king of Vtubing than Microsoft is king of computing.

Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:33:47 2023 No.52212637

>>52212301
Anon, were not saying that those people graduating isn't gonna affect Hololive. They definitely would. But, assuming that they graduated with no shady shit involved, Hololive would still be stronger than any other corpo even in its diminished form. It's like calling a 20 foot giant who suddenly shrunk to a 10 foor tall dude "small". Yes, he's smaller than he was before but he still towers over everyone.

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>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:34:00 2023 No.52212650 >>52212612 >nta Do you really

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:34:19 2023 No.52212667 >More males than females in NijiEN Expect more female graduations

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:34:21 2023 No.52212669 File: 1.06 MB, 1308x742, 1665722037728.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] day 2 looking really GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRIM

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:34:28 2023 No.52212678 >>52212557 fed ious being backed by a troonified and dearming suicide force ain't wealth tbf

Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:34:30 2023 No.52212682

>>52212301
>that Cover/Hololive would do perfectly fine still
No one say it will be perfectly fine. Having your top talent graduate will surely leave an impact, just not enough to threaten Cover's position unless it's several talents with unique niche currently not filled by other talent leaving at the same time.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:34:32 2023 No.52212685 >>52212626 So... They are?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:34:35 2023 No.52212688 >>52212489 Newfags are so dumb. Ccv is the least important thing when it comes to making money. If those 6 left the other members would have to make up 17-20% of the company’s revenue now.

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Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:35:05 2023 No.52212712

>>52212205
VSPO and Idol seem to be on an upward trajectory this year. Phase was doing better as well though the majority of that success might be burning down as of yesterday. Hachi continues her slow but steady incline off the power of just fucking singing twice a week at the same time.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:35:16 2023 No.52212729 File: 755 KB, 616x900, image_2023-06-26_203515620.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:36:10 2023 No.52212769 >>52212487 I mean in terms of GDP, I think they're not (correct me if I'm wrong though cause i might be thinking of GDP per capita or some shit)?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:36:13 2023 No.52212772 >>52212407 >I'm pretty sure that America isn't the richest country in the world nor do they excel in anything significant like tech or education Wut?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:36:15 2023 No.52212774 >>52212370 eternal thread parasites their generals are dead or dying in page 10

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:36:25 2023 No.52212787 File: 2.09 MB, 2399x1356, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] does towa have eyes? is she legally blind? how do you come up with that conclusion about kekqua

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:36:26 2023 No.52212788 File: 1.01 MB, 850x1423, 1657823756911664.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>52212705

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:37:02 2023 No.52212825 >>52212688 They wouldn't have to, Cover won't go bankrupt overnight. Some fans will shift to new people and they can accelerate new debuts if necessary to fill out the roster.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:37:18 2023 No.52212835 >>52212774 What are you talking about? This thread isnt like that.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:37:18 2023 No.52212836 >>52212688 And theyd still be the giants in the landscape If the same thing happened to anycolor theyd literally lose 80% of the companies revenue

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:37:51 2023 No.52212863 >>52212637 Maybe with all the numberfag websites the key phrase CCV does not matter outside of here should’ve been added. Anycolor and Cover bring in about the same revenue there is no towering over anyone

Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:37:54 2023 No.52212866
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>>52212407
>I'm pretty sure that America isn't the richest country in the world nor do they excel in anything significant like tech or education

This is your average # poster.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:37:57 2023 No.52212870 File: 1.16 MB, 850x1343, 1662665860571645.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>52212788

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:38:18 2023 No.52212891 >>52212669 Nijisanji swirling the drain You love to see it

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:38:55 2023 No.52212915 >>52212407 >I'm pretty sure that America isn't the richest country in the world nor do they excel in anything significant like tech or education A shining example of why no one should take analysis that comes out of this thread seriously.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:38:56 2023 No.52212916 File: 178 KB, 396x357, 20dF.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] en3 ?

Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:39:00 2023 No.52212920

>>52210959
A very good post. Thx

>without it devolving into shipping (an impossible task in the west at this point)
I feel like it is impossible for the east too. A male and a female vtuber joking and laughing plus being affectionate towards each other always equal to shipping or romance potential imo. Despite they call it father-daugher, brother-sister relationship etc. Also audiences instinctively understand two young man and woman who are very close to each other can actually have romantic relationship.

>Hololive ultimately won the culture war of "What a vtuber is."
Jun is not a vtuber also not an idol but his numbers tanked after his marriage. So I would rather address this particular part as basic psychology rather than culture war.
Concert is a very good way to make money. And Cover has proven it worked with vtubers. So everyone copies it. I would call this a successful business model rather than culture. But yea culture can mean anything

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:39:31 2023 No.52212946 File: 757 KB, 850x1321, 1660698579469232.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>52212870

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:39:47 2023 No.52212957 >>52212029 watamage isn't all powerful, she can't save EN.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:39:53 2023 No.52212964 >>52212769 Anon in terms of gdp America is still the number one in the world, they aren't in gdp per capita because it gets skewed by countries like Monaco and Luxembourg with extremely small but rich populations. Stop huffing Zhang propaganda

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:40:39 2023 No.52213005 >>52212866 Don't lump him together with us bro, that guy is a Nijinigger

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:41:02 2023 No.52213028 >>52212964 gpd is a meme when shitholes like canada can inflate it with the chink property industry

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:41:07 2023 No.52213037 File: 31 KB, 874x224, 1670563000682919.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>52212769 You must be thinking of per capita. America is far and away the #1 in GDP.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:41:24 2023 No.52213048 >>52212787 towa is right though

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:41:30 2023 No.52213053 >>52212669 that low already? all these new dudes will be 3view in no time

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:41:35 2023 No.52213058 So when is the ETA for the next Mysta leak?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:41:39 2023 No.52213062 >>52212825 >>52212836 How much money is cover left with every year after handling bills and investments? If you don’t know this answer you’re too new so go back

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:41:40 2023 No.52213067 >>52212964 Funny how you say this but some burgers get homeless due to healthcare.

Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:42:00 2023 No.52213076

>>52212407
Education varies on a state-to-state basis. Some are good at it, some are rural redneck states where they fuck their siblings. But American Universities routinely the top of the world rankings. And schools like MIT and Caltech are giants in the field of STEM research with few equivalents.

Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:42:01 2023 No.52213079

>>52212685
NOTHING Microsoft has done has shifted or moved ANYTHING or started any trend in tech in the last 50 years.
>Windows Phone
Flopped
>Zune
Follow-the-leader flop
>Xbox
Fucking dead, not even 20% of the console wars.
>Bing Search
Follow-the-leader that is only on things because MS pays for sponsorships.
>Chat-GPT
Bought
>Azure
Bought
>Office 365
Being phased out at all companies under 2,000 employees because the costs are so stupid and there's freeware from Google that replaces it

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:42:01 2023 No.52213078 File: 320 KB, 850x536, 1669202272237984.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>52212946

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:42:20 2023 No.52213093 >>52213062 And the nijinigger reveals himself at last

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:42:34 2023 No.52213107 >>52213058 After the next graduation

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:42:50 2023 No.52213130 >>52212612 It a yab when we know it is not a good term. Thx leaker

Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:43:02 2023 No.52213143

>>52212964
>Anon in terms of gdp America is still the number one in the world

>Lie #2: California’s GDP Is So Large That It Debunks All Economic Criticism
>This was one of Newsom’s primary responses to Hannity during their debate over California’s decline – California has the 4th largest GDP in the world (over $3 trillion), therefore no criticism of its economy is valid. With that in mind, I’m going to tell you one of the biggest open secrets about how states like California, the federal government and the federal reserve calculate GDP:

>They count a majority of government spending towards total GDP. Yes, that’s right, California takes large amounts of tax dollars from citizens, takes hundreds of billions of dollars from the federal government, spends it all on numerous programs from welfare, to student loans to medicare/medicaid, then adds it all to their total GDP as if the government actually produces something other than debt.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:43:06 2023 No.52213147 File: 406 KB, 1073x750, 4A69F972-B261-4FBC-B0E1-85FB638B231F.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Wtf is this thread even posting Fauna, fuck off ….. now I need to jerk it

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:43:14 2023 No.52213156 >>52211793 When Shu graduates im gonna laugh even hard. Wait for it

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:43:23 2023 No.52213170 >>52213062 Anon your weird cope still wouldnt change the fact that cover would be fine if their top performers graduated while anycolor would actually die if their did It just goes to show you how top heavy nijisanji is

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:43:27 2023 No.52213176 File: 819 KB, 1722x3000, 1677837062701769.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>52213078

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:43:56 2023 No.52213197 >>52213079 And yet windows is still the dominant platform in computing to the point where most people don't even know there are alternatives, cope and seethe appledrone

Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:44:05 2023 No.52213201

>>52212487
>>52212557
>>52212626
>>52212866
>>52212964
Welp. Like I said, I ain't up to date with all the geopolitics shit so that's my bad. I still stand by what I said. Hololive currently dictates what and what isn't vtubing and until someone knocks them on their ass, a mixed gender wave where neither side gets turned into an accesory ain't gonna work.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:44:27 2023 No.52213217 Holy shit take it to /pol/

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:44:31 2023 No.52213221 >>52213067 Imagine actually believing this lmao

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:44:33 2023 No.52213226 >>52212769 America GDP and GDP per capita is still very high in ranking. But it's not very accurate due to its wealth distribution and Income inequality

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:44:46 2023 No.52213241 File: 1004 KB, 1518x2150, 1669167041570823.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>52213176

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:45:05 2023 No.52213262 >>52213226 >Eurocope

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:45:09 2023 No.52213264 >>52211793 >When Hololive gets a graduation, I will laugh at all your fucking faces Mathematically it is bad trade. Considering nijis dish out graduations like sample tissues.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:45:30 2023 No.52213282 >>52213226 >ratiocoep

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:45:39 2023 No.52213293 File: 124 KB, 701x750, 1680427246218014.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Fauna poster is the most on topic ITT GRIM

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:45:42 2023 No.52213296 take it to /uuu/

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:45:50 2023 No.52213304 And just like that I exposed shitposting newfags. Is it because it’s summer that we have influx of children that don’t know how money works?

Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:46:02 2023 No.52213316

>>52212301
Peko/Miko/Marine/Suisei graduating would mean 20-30% revenue loss on cover
Kuzuha alone graduating would actually equal to 40-50% of their revenue
Kuzuha and Kanae would be 60% of the revenue
Kuzuha Kanae and Kenmochi would be somewhere around 70-85% revenue loss

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:46:13 2023 No.52213330 JWU and there more old leaked. Wtf is going on? >>52195566

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:46:36 2023 No.52213347 File: 546 KB, 850x1016, 1675768675876787.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>52213241

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:47:00 2023 No.52213365 >>52213304 anon we've had posters here not understand how tax brackets, NDAs, ipos and more work from the beginning.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:47:32 2023 No.52213393 >>52213304 nah if anything it just exposed you trying to find more ways to cope the fact that the original argument which was if hololives top performers leaving would be the same as nijisanji which is false

Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:47:39 2023 No.52213399

>>52213201
You're not really wrong there, but remember Amelia throwing a fit because of amesame? They can still get turned into sideshows even if they're same gender groups. Plus, mixed gender anything isn't ever going to work simply because it has no appeal, it isn't unique at all.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:47:39 2023 No.52213398 >>52213330 Watamage is not done? Why did you anger her so much?

Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:47:48 2023 No.52213410

>>52213197
No. The actual dominant platform in computing is Android, followed by iOS. Android is on more devices worldwide than Windows is, and iOS on iPhones alone outnumbers legit Windows installs on personal computers. Windows only has big numbers because of big company offices, otherwise it'd be 3rd place.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:47:53 2023 No.52213411 File: 823 KB, 3000x3000, 1669785653885071.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>52213347

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:47:54 2023 No.52213412 >>52213330 >j*u >not a new ip ignoring that, screenshots like that are easily faked

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:48:22 2023 No.52213436 File: 239 KB, 750x413, 1379E01D-DC4D-48AE-9E35-B372F189CAB5.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>52213217 SEA and Eurokeks especially can’t stop thinking about us American chads. Doesn’t help that the Gura and Mumei always shit on eurokeks

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:48:33 2023 No.52213446 I just love how nijifags keep shitposting here since it gives me the drive to keep spreading rrats outside here

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:48:36 2023 No.52213451 >>52213365 True but this retard genuinely doesn’t know we have how much the top 20 talents account for >>52213316 Definitely new

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:48:59 2023 No.52213469 File: 130 KB, 1024x605, 1684195535302767.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>52213293 >he thinks the numbers thread is about numbers

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:49:06 2023 No.52213472 >>52213282 Doesn't change the fact that America is extremely top heavy, if the top of America's GDP owner graduate, it will certainly lead to America's recline. It will also lose it's ranking in the GDP tally

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:49:28 2023 No.52213489 >>52213296 Go back to /pol/

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:49:30 2023 No.52213493 File: 712 KB, 2524x3928, 1675819205429335.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>52213411

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:49:34 2023 No.52213496 >>52213451 >top 20 Anon Nijisanji is carried hard by their top 6 not top 20

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:49:55 2023 No.52213512 >>52212863 >Anycolor and Cover bring in about the same revenue there is no towering over anyone So why is Cover dominating the meme gold?

Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:50:17 2023 No.52213531

>>52213226
Some states are very expensive to live in and the average income of people in those states are high. Whereas some states are very cheap to live in and have lower income to reflect upon that fact. A house that might cost $1 million in Massachusetts might only cost $200k in Alabama. Really, America’s average income is just fucked up based on the ridiculous disparities of what constitutes a good salary on a state-to-state basis.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:50:41 2023 No.52213550 >>52213451 not that much considering kuzuha kanae and kenmochi are the only valuable ones in jp when it comes to marketability

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:50:44 2023 No.52213552 File: 1.59 MB, 850x1323, 1664754162100036.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>52213493

Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:50:45 2023 No.52213553

>>52211039
For starters separate project information and behind the scenes personal discussions into separate places. Second screen talents better and make them sign an NDA BEFORE showing them anything that's considered insider information. Third don't be antagonistic and blow off your chuubas. Butting heads with management and pushing for project approval happens in Hololive also but management/uppermanagement aren't outright malicious or absolute assholes about it like Nijisanji.

Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:50:52 2023 No.52213556

>>52212920
nta but that anon is right about hololive dictates vtubing goals, performing on stage. So other company have 2 options here
1. Find a new 'goals' ( will gain a lot profit because you dont have to fight hololive )
2. Copy hololive entirely
Option 1 is still a big IF, option 2 will guarantee you a profit but smaller unless you somehow overthrow hololive on their field, your choice anon

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:50:52 2023 No.52213557 >>52213472 >if you take out the top gdp earners the gdp will go down >euro cucks think this is a gotcha

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:51:14 2023 No.52213572 >>52213412 i mean it was my 2nd post in # before step out seeing catalog, i guess the yab never end.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:51:17 2023 No.52213574 well technically this is a numbers thread it is numbers related

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:52:18 2023 No.52213622 >>52213574 It’s more on topic than the faggot spamming pictures on cd.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:52:22 2023 No.52213624 File: 1.05 MB, 828x1169, 1686175621107479.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>52213552

Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:52:29 2023 No.52213638

>>52213553
>but management/uppermanagement aren't outright malicious or absolute assholes about it like Nijisanji.
Its not just Nijisanji management thats outright malicious its also some of the Niji livers themselves since they tend to form cliques and bring down people that arent part of their group

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:52:36 2023 No.52213644 Kek some1 post the stages of niji yabs again, the nijigers have already reached the ultimate what >if holo graduates..

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:52:52 2023 No.52213656 >>52213622 >>52213624 kek

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:53:21 2023 No.52213683 File: 573 KB, 1600x2400, 1668060043951364.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>52213622

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:53:30 2023 No.52213691 >>52213644 funny thing is that they cant seem to accept that nijisanji is very top heavy due to how their company culture works

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:53:34 2023 No.52213693 >>52213556 >holding a concert is copying hololive thus force to compete against hololive Well, being a vtuber is competing against hololive too

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:53:46 2023 No.52213699 Pekora should do a LOTR pack opening stream since it is the new meta rn.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:54:07 2023 No.52213716 >>52213622 Holoboard Holothread >>>/vt/nijien >>>/vt/pcg >>>/vt/jidf >>>/vt/vsj

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:54:08 2023 No.52213719 >>52213683 I love fauna

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:54:18 2023 No.52213726 >>52213683 I think I've seen this image over 20 times now in the past week, it's starting to become like that old Risu image

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:55:12 2023 No.52213780 File: 2.46 MB, 1312x2196, 1687226239596661.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>52213683

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:55:22 2023 No.52213793 File: 1.77 MB, 1559x3134, 1660672935411810.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>52213644 Ask and you shall receive

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:55:30 2023 No.52213799 >>52213556 The problem with your first point is what happens if cover or the individual talents start aiming at that new goal?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:55:41 2023 No.52213802 >>52212920 >Holo dictates Eh they just want to do it themselves, if others want to try to copy them that's their problem

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:55:59 2023 No.52213822 File: 392 KB, 638x905, image_2023-06-26_205559090.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>52213726

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:56:04 2023 No.52213825 File: 1.44 MB, 2220x3704, 34687.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] we here at numbers have forgiven ouro kronii

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:56:10 2023 No.52213831 File: 2.20 MB, 1231x2164, 1658671477566565.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>52213780

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:56:43 2023 No.52213857 >>52213556 I'm still baffled Vshojo tried the Holo route of doing "Idol Concerts" when they basically advertised themselves as the opposite of Hololive.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:56:46 2023 No.52213859 Is Froot about to kill herself or something? I'm seeing people doom about her.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:56:53 2023 No.52213863 File: 866 KB, 2508x1771, 1656741859831087.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:56:58 2023 No.52213868 >>52213802 why won't you copy something that sells?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:57:14 2023 No.52213884 File: 460 KB, 850x1077, 1681439106948080.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>52213831

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:57:17 2023 No.52213889 >>52213822 >no treerrat filename no...

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:58:06 2023 No.52213942 File: 288 KB, 994x558, Screenshot_20230626_195657_Chrome.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Please tell me the debut buff is over and this is not the beggining of his downfall

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>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:58:16 2023 No.52213953 >>52213802 Gundou and Mayuzumi basically confirmed that it's not a choice for the talents

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:58:32 2023 No.52213970 File: 1.15 MB, 850x1202, 1687128841370703.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>52213884

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:59:13 2023 No.52214001 File: 178 KB, 1536x2048, 1684407349912290.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:59:22 2023 No.52214009 >>52213942 Anon, I....

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:59:27 2023 No.52214014 >>52213953 Riku: why do you listen to niji rebels is beyond me

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:59:27 2023 No.52214013 >>52213857 Combined with the lore shit, it's obvious that they want what holo has

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:59:47 2023 No.52214030 >>52213793 Nijifag's gloating coming to bite them in the ass will never not be funny.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:59:52 2023 No.52214032 File: 554 KB, 750x869, D20B4FB0-9FDA-441B-9DFC-9DA3071696B9.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] OH NYO ~ Gura don’t graduate!!! I’ll be here to laugh at you retards when it’s finally your turn to take the biggest L in all of Vtubing

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:00:27 2023 No.52214067 >>52213942 That is the debut buff

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:00:51 2023 No.52214086 >>52214032 >gura emergency protocol pippa deflection post?

Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:00:59 2023 No.52214092

>>52213693
NTA but even though that's the case, anyone aspiring to become a vtuber currently has no other choice. Even when PC and the other corpos make it their schtick to be the "Not Hololive" company, it still means that they base their entire culture around what Hololive does. It's like when the 3 ball centric offenses suddenly became the dominant form of offense in the NBA. You either copy that shit wholesale and then some like what the rockets did, or be a contrarian and die out like what happened with the grit n grind grizzlies.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:01:05 2023 No.52214099 File: 792 KB, 811x1609, 1672371489022690.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Numbers

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:01:06 2023 No.52214102 >>52213942 Anon that is debut buff

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:01:06 2023 No.52214100 >>52213953 so then they should leave instead of keeping bitching and pitybaiting, they know nothing will change because money talks louder

Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:01:26 2023 No.52214118

>>52213693
>being a vtuber is competing against hololive too
Not really, vshojo trying a new field by acting the opposite of holo but they are so incompetent to gain any notable profit from it. Nijien also did briefly with luxiem but their company is so stupid and greedy now they are a fucking joke, all of that happened in less than a year. So there's that. Hololive is so lucky they have algo on their side, and a fucking idiot rivals who cant capitalize on their success.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:01:30 2023 No.52214122 File: 54 KB, 791x505, LOL.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Kneel to Ironmouse lol

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:01:33 2023 No.52214123 >>52212920 NijiJP has been trying to do the "gen" system since Selejo which I always found a bit funny cause they have zero "gen" unity with each other which is the entire point. Closest they got was Edengumi.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:01:38 2023 No.52214132 >>52213802 The same reason people follow roads and don't try to rough it over the countryside anon

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:01:59 2023 No.52214152 >>52214032 we'll get em in 3 years

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:02:12 2023 No.52214167 >>52214122 based

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:02:13 2023 No.52214169 >>52214086 nah its a niji shitposting deflection since theres supposedly another leak coming about the ones contemplating about graduating

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:02:35 2023 No.52214188 >>52214032 at least watch her birthday stream before making an idiot of yourself, Lingling

Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:02:40 2023 No.52214192

>>52211223
The only one that's here 24/7 is Axel and he also has the most VODs downed for saying behind the scenes info of anyone in all of Hololive or Holostars despite not even being here a year.
Other than that, for the girls at least, the theory does add up.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:02:49 2023 No.52214200 >>52213857 At the end of the day vtubing is synonymous with hololive in the west. Until someone else comes in with a bigger hit that'll always be the casr

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:02:55 2023 No.52214209 >>52211588 what did gundou get?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:02:59 2023 No.52214213 File: 321 KB, 750x743, FA4B7576-4BE2-4C11-AFBE-E6287B5D22A0.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>52214032 If Gura leaves then Fauna does too. Gonna be grim for unicorn incels

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:03:20 2023 No.52214239 >>52214001 nooo don't stop

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:03:28 2023 No.52214249 >>52213859 Where, Vshojo thread? I don't think anyone here knows anything about Froot.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:03:49 2023 No.52214268 >>52214213 Vox is more likely to kill himself on camera after being called chubby on twitter again than either of them to graduate any time soon.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:04:07 2023 No.52214283 File: 1.61 MB, 1536x2048, 1682319647385778.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>52214239

Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:04:29 2023 No.52214301

>>52212301
>saying all of that shit about Korone
Do you even know how important Korone was for the company at a certain point in time? She was the first to reach 1M subs in jp, she generated EOP and overseas interest in a way only Fubuki and Coco could match. Pekora rose to popularity after, sure, but there was a time when Korone was king. She did good numbers with her tournament arc recently too, despite the male debuff. I’m not saying she’s like Pekora now, but weird that you had to single out Korone.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:04:31 2023 No.52214303 >>52214209 97k

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:04:36 2023 No.52214306 >>52214209 >21) Gundou (Nijisanji) - 97,059 - Graduation Stream

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:04:42 2023 No.52214314 >>52213825 Only if she does ear licking asmr

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:04:42 2023 No.52214315 >>52214200 >At the end of the day vtubing is synonymous with hololive in the west kek that reminds me of that russian chuba who put im not affiliated with hololive along with multiple others

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:04:59 2023 No.52214331 >>52214122 slowpokechama... not as if this was news, considering the multiple WITH MY FRIENDS

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:05:01 2023 No.52214334 File: 746 KB, 3072x4096, 1672914605852048.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>52214283

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:05:05 2023 No.52214336 >/pol/numbers

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:05:08 2023 No.52214339 File: 493 KB, 1391x937, sakabanbuspis.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>52211266 >how do i join your clique https://www.4channel.org/faq#what4chan

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:05:25 2023 No.52214355 >>52213799 They already did with tempus shit, but thats not enough to bring them down and i hope ( i really am ) they scratch the idea. But who am i kidding? They can debut en3, id4, jp7 and they will be forgiven

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:05:32 2023 No.52214365 >>52214301 he singled out gura and kobo, ofc he'll single out has beens like korone

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:05:48 2023 No.52214381 File: 1.52 MB, 850x1511, 1657026886709916.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>52214334

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:06:01 2023 No.52214391 >>52212407 >Hololive currently dictates what a vtuber is and isn't I was about to agree with this until I remembered Tempus. Didn't Cover try to pull a cultural shift with them?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:06:02 2023 No.52214394 >>52211266 remove your ribs and you too can suck your own cock with the rest of the thread.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:06:07 2023 No.52214397 >>52214301 >male debuff >debuff playing with big ecelebs was not a debuff

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:06:20 2023 No.52214412 >>52214301 >despite the male debuff >debuff nta but without the sf pros and celebs numbers are not coming in

Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:06:21 2023 No.52214413
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Honest question, since every NijiEN graduation from now on is going to prompt some kind of suggestion that they are or could at some point join HoloEN regardless of how little of that is based in reality:

In the current EN vtuber sphere, are there actually any EN talents left that would be better (or at least "more qualified") than some of NijiEN's current talents? It doesn't feel like there's this great crop of budding talents waiting in the wings for their chance, given that I think most every other corpo has failed to produce a great crop of talent in the multiple debuts since Council's to today.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:06:23 2023 No.52214416 >>52214355 What? This has nothing to do with what I posted

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:06:39 2023 No.52214434 >>52214339 Isn't this a fucking remoraid?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:06:44 2023 No.52214439 File: 766 KB, 667x1000, 1660174092931586.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>52214381

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:07:56 2023 No.52214500 >>52214122 and she wonders why she can't recover her viewership lol

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:07:58 2023 No.52214502 >>52214413 Considering NijiEN wouldn't have the "not whore" requirements (and even then I wonder if HoloEN will keep having it), there's many good indies, even in just the "average" way.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:08:02 2023 No.52214506 >>52214334 Where do you get your lewds anon?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:08:06 2023 No.52214509 HoloEarth honestly secured the girls future so I doubt anyone will graduate soon for Hololive. Hell I can see Cover will wait for Haachama even though it would take a year for her comeback.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:08:12 2023 No.52214514 >>52214391 By having male vtubers that appeal to a western audience instead of pandering to chinks?

Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:08:37 2023 No.52214538

>>52214413
>are there actually any EN talents left that would be better (or at least "more qualified") than some of NijiEN's current talents?
Only one i can think of are those twin girls from that VN since they are the only ones who can probably do idol reps

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:08:38 2023 No.52214544 >>52214413 Cover is willing to get someone with zero Vtuber experience or minimum steaming experience.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:09:15 2023 No.52214582 >>52214132 No, it's more like why retards get scammed by cryptos thinking they would make quick money

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:09:19 2023 No.52214586 >>52214514 And failing miserably at that.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:09:24 2023 No.52214592 >ESL posts everywhere >spicling image spam nice thread

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:09:45 2023 No.52214608 >>52214502 Hololive has never had a "not whore" requirement cause if they did then someone like Choco, Mel, Aki, Noel, Azki wouldnt get in the company in the first place

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:09:59 2023 No.52214617 >>52214416 Anon cover trying to copy luxiem with tempus, they fail. That why i said find a new goals is still a big IF. Early luxiem is a success and tempus is a failure

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:10:04 2023 No.52214624 >>52214509 Speaking of, doesnt membership end if youre not active? Did she suspend that? Must have missed it

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:10:17 2023 No.52214637 >>52214268 Kekd

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:10:27 2023 No.52214649 >>52214506 twitter, /here/, danbooru

Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:10:29 2023 No.52214651

>>52214544
How many of those are there now that want to jump into HoloEN today, though, multiple years after their launch? That seems more viable as an option early on but certainly not in this stage of western vtubing, given I would expect most people with a passing interest to have already taken a shot at it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:10:53 2023 No.52214682 >>52214617 Having a spouse is not being a whore by definition

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:11:24 2023 No.52214717 >>52214651 >How many of those are there now that want to jump into HoloEN today, though, multiple years after their launch? probably a lot the question is that how many of them would be up to covers standards

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:11:33 2023 No.52214727 File: 1.16 MB, 1500x2350, 1679591567951630.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>52214439

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:12:11 2023 No.52214762 File: 413 KB, 645x1561, 1681789133786757.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>52214592

Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:12:17 2023 No.52214767

>>52214413
Niji EN, Phase, and Idol vacuumed up most of the passable talent out there. Anyone Cover gets for EN3 is either gonna have to be poached from an existing corpo, or not from the current vtuber scene. There's really very few indies that would work as a Holo. Most of the existing ones are twitch thots whose content would not mesh with Hololive.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:12:25 2023 No.52214775 >>52214651 Let the retards weed themselves out lol

Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:12:28 2023 No.52214778

>>52214413
Considering how well Kobo worked I'm half expecting Cover is going for literal unknowns or straight up random people with no online presence whatsoever as long as they fill some sort of talent requirement and fit whatever character archetype their looking for.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:12:47 2023 No.52214799 new gundou channel at 30k subs already if wonder if it will skyrock to 100k when she debuts her live2d

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:12:49 2023 No.52214801 >>52214717 Sana: council standard or tempus standard?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:13:15 2023 No.52214825 >>52214767 Knowing Cover they are probably gonna do another Kobo or Kaela

Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:13:15 2023 No.52214824

>>52214413
Not just NijiEN, every indies and other corpo will also prompt the same kind of suggestion. Hololive and to some extent Holostar is regarded as the final destination and goal of every vtuber.

A few years ago, post-holo indies might be regarded as the final goal under the assumption that you could build up your fanbase under Hololive's wing then fly off taking your build up fanbase with you. This is no longer the case seeing how Coco and Rushia turn out

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:13:24 2023 No.52214833 >>52214717 If their standard are just like tempus 2 and alrare, many passed already

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:13:34 2023 No.52214846 File: 122 KB, 1100x778, FzjD6iKakAAE5KO.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>52212787 She was distracted

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:13:35 2023 No.52214849 >>52214624 Don't know maybe this prevent that from happening. https://twitter.com/akaihaato/status/1665554032700825600

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:14:16 2023 No.52214892 >>52214801 Sana is the minimum requirement for the hololive standard Tempus is below hololive standards since they are stars which is why most smaller corpo debuts have been tempus quality or lower

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:14:37 2023 No.52214912 >>52214801 You are talking about a successful artist, how is that not a high standard?

Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:16:02 2023 No.52214992

>>52214833
No not really since you are comparing hololive standards to holostars standard
Hololive standards are much higher which is why those current new debuts would not measure up to even the bare minimum standard which is Sana.
But if you compare those new debuts to tempus you can see that they are of the same low quality since their quality to pass is much lower

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:16:13 2023 No.52215000 >>52214892 >Sana is the minimum requirement for the hololive standard >>52214912 >Sana is high standard Cover hiring a Sana for each future EN gen confirmed

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:16:18 2023 No.52215006 File: 1.54 MB, 850x1202, 1663655899147572.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>52214727

Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:16:24 2023 No.52215013
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>Baes pre gameplay zatsu is already near IRys peak
What the fuck is going on? IRyS is actually performing REALLY badly post 2.0. Despite Homo debuffs Bae is surpassed her in mind chair and broad appeal.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:16:43 2023 No.52215035 >>52212370 It's just faunaschizo falseflagging like usual

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:16:56 2023 No.52215051 File: 67 KB, 586x588, 20230627_091608.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] BTS ... Where?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:17:00 2023 No.52215056 >>52214592 Schools out so you’ll have to deal with this for a while

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:17:18 2023 No.52215070 >>52215006 Fauna about to get blacked

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:17:22 2023 No.52215076 File: 190 KB, 1765x962, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How does this growth compare to others like her?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:17:28 2023 No.52215083 File: 317 KB, 735x576, 1683285988733171.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>52215035

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:17:52 2023 No.52215104 >>52215070 Yeah, by me

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:17:55 2023 No.52215108 >>52215051 fighting the north koreans

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:17:56 2023 No.52215110 File: 57 KB, 578x594, 20230627_091610.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>52215051 You will get more Idol covers.

Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:18:00 2023 No.52215117

>>52215000
>Cover hiring a Sana for each future EN gen confirmed
Thats the thing Anon you might laugh but Sana is still a lot better than the current debut in the small corpos today. Almost all small corpos would kill their current roster for someone with Sanas numbers

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:18:18 2023 No.52215134 >>52215051 They make BTS join the Korean Army.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:18:19 2023 No.52215136 File: 655 KB, 657x932, 1676410947176170.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>52215006

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:18:41 2023 No.52215155 >>52214912 you mean a successful artist that refuses to do drawing stream? Interesting forte and standard

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:18:44 2023 No.52215163 >>52215013 That's major debuff content for Irys, the numbers make sense

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:19:07 2023 No.52215187 >>52214992 Holostars standard is pretty much >Won't sexually harass the girls

Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:19:22 2023 No.52215211

>>52215117
sanas numbers were a byproduct of her brand not her talent, holy fuck she was the worst hire HoloEN ever had from a streaming perspective she was bland and uninteresting, mostly disinterested in her job only showing halfway promise in collab settings.

Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:20:01 2023 No.52215251
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>>52214824
>Hololive and to some extent Holostar is regarded as the final destination and goal of every vtuber.

LOL no not in EN. JP sure but there are plenty of EN vtubers getting similar or better numbers than current HoloEN. And Kson is still swimming in money.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:20:31 2023 No.52215281 >>52215211 Sanas numbers were a byproduct of her talent which is why it was low but even with that low talent she's still a lot better than most of the current corpo debuts anon

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:20:45 2023 No.52215291 >>52211406 We don't like dramaleeches here

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:20:56 2023 No.52215299 >>52215013 IRyS has lost a ton of her streaming consistency post-2.0 as far as hours and days streamed, hasn't she? Or am I just hallucinating now.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:20:58 2023 No.52215301 >>52214649 Ah. Ok. Thanks. Dont use twitter but they seem to have some good ones

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:21:01 2023 No.52215303 File: 1.40 MB, 4096x2912, 1668738099380339.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>52215136

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:21:08 2023 No.52215312 >>52215155 We are talking about people's resumes, you retard. Sana is a successful artist with connections to other big artists.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:21:34 2023 No.52215338 >>52215251 >And Kson is still swimming in money. she has actually been hinting of toning down her lifestyle for a while

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:21:58 2023 No.52215364 >>52215251 >directly comparing Twitch CCV and Youtube CCV This is how I know you're a tourist.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:22:44 2023 No.52215414 >>52211266 come in, we are not Finana, anyone can join

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:23:07 2023 No.52215442 >>52215251 >LOL no not in EN. >He says this when mouse basically kissed notguras feet when she released that tweet months ago

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:23:14 2023 No.52215449 >>52215013 Wasn't IRyS overlapped? Also it's technically a return stream for Bae

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:23:14 2023 No.52215448 >>52214778 That's a great way of getting a bunch of homo collabers and people who have no idea about vtuber etiquette.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:23:38 2023 No.52215466 >>52215013 I think more people wanted to hear Bae talk about being sick and her trip than care about the cat game.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:23:45 2023 No.52215474 as an aside, whose great idea was it to literally name a new branch "niji crisis" in the middle of multiple terminations, graduations and scandals it's like they're just asking to be a punching bag at this point

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:23:55 2023 No.52215485 File: 284 KB, 1201x808, 1673125728768948.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:24:16 2023 No.52215503 File: 126 KB, 783x793, eh.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>52215338 Still pulling great numbers every month. Maybe she's just less retarded with her money now. If she's smart about this she will never have to do real work in her life.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:24:59 2023 No.52215547 >>52215338 You wouldn’t even need that she jumped into vshojo’s arms after being solo for less than a year.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:25:05 2023 No.52215553 >>52215503 komaru my beloved

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:25:15 2023 No.52215569 >>52215485 Bae is beating a new homo with a buff stream... The dream is over...

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:25:17 2023 No.52215571 >>52215364 This pathetic cope again.

Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:25:17 2023 No.52215572

>>52210896
I wonder if nijisis will again blame hololive for this and attack it with more intense ferocity. When it’s their liver who causes the internal division and faction. When their 2 weeks old manager causes conflict with zaion resulting to her firing. When their liver was the one who started the tribal war with holos in the first place.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:25:20 2023 No.52215576 >>52215312 what's the purpose of resume if it can't be put into practical use for streaming? Why not hiring a golfer instead kek? Both Sana and golfer are not using their skills in their resume anyway

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:26:03 2023 No.52215615 >>52215211 You're talking with a massive coverdrone and likely homoshiller. He'll defend Sana on every single occasion even when it's obvious that she was a huge waste of time.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:26:06 2023 No.52215619 >>52215503 Whenever someone says this you know they’ve never made anything past minimum wage.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:26:16 2023 No.52215628 >>52215576 >what's the purpose of resume To get a job.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:26:24 2023 No.52215640 >>52215571 might as well add Fung Yu shin since he hast 300k ccv in b2

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:26:41 2023 No.52215652 >>52215503 >$21k in SCs Does it include merch, sponsorships, convention fees etc? I doubt she also has a personal accountant anymore like Holos. She's 1/20 of what she was back then.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:27:11 2023 No.52215678 >>52215571 >reddit spacing

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:27:12 2023 No.52215679 >>52215312 >Connections to other big artists Retard

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:27:25 2023 No.52215689 >>52215615 I missed you rimjob anon Are you still shilling those garbage indie and small corpo vtubers?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:27:39 2023 No.52215699 >>52215652 Streams a bunch on twitch too so it doesn't include any of that.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:27:45 2023 No.52215705 >>52215628 artist resume for a streamer job? Streamer resume for an artist job?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:27:47 2023 No.52215707 >>52214608 Don't compare them to your whores, Nijinigger.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:28:33 2023 No.52215742 >>52215615 >Still cant accept the fact that the lowest Holo is still a ton more entertaining than any of the current corpo debuts

Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:28:46 2023 No.52215751
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>>52215251
I watch a decent amount of indies. Most of them that are fairly successful scoff at the idea of giving up their IP, and having to get approval to play games and collab with other vtubers. The ones that actually want to join a corpo usually mention Vshojo as their first choice.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:28:47 2023 No.52215754 File: 396 KB, 1000x1499, 1687697134214074.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>52215312 >connections to other big artists yeah, Ina

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:29:03 2023 No.52215763 >>52215705 Hololive's aim it not in streaming. Ina was hired for the same reason Sana was

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:29:12 2023 No.52215777 >>52215689 >>52215742 Yeah, I'm the rimjob one when you can't stop sucking Fagoo dirty ass and defending every single retarded decision he made. Also stop samefagging, it's pathetic.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:29:18 2023 No.52215782 >>52211130 >company wide server that everyone has access to >before debut >when starsJP didn't even know Tempus were debuting Ok

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:30:04 2023 No.52215815 >>52215705 >hololive >streaming company its 2023 and how are people still having the idea that hololive is a streaming company

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:30:15 2023 No.52215827 >>52215281 i know you like to pretend this is a real opinion but i know retards cant be this dense at least i hope they cant actually hold this opinion of Sana.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:30:18 2023 No.52215829 File: 801 KB, 3464x3464, 1683494262163118.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>52214608 >Azki yeah, My whore

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:30:45 2023 No.52215852 >>52215763 >Hololive's aim it not in streaming Sana: but they asked me to leave when I decided not to stream

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:31:47 2023 No.52215901 >>52215707 they are all whores either way

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:32:04 2023 No.52215914 >>52215815 yea people are dumb. Hololive will be fine if they stop all streaming services. I swear to god

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:32:04 2023 No.52215916 How do we save NijiEN?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:32:13 2023 No.52215923 >>52215782 >StarJP didnt even know tempus was debuting Wasnt it only astel? cause temma mentioned about being nervous of losing fans before they debuted

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:32:14 2023 No.52215925 >>52215782 starsjp are just blatantly lied because of their bitterness seeing tempus numbers >100k subs on their debut >30-40k ccv which something starsjp never ever attain on their streaming career

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:33:18 2023 No.52215981 >>52215852 >Sana: but they asked me to leave when I decided not to do idol reps ftfy since if that was the case a ton of talents would have been graduated by now

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:33:53 2023 No.52216015 >>52215981 This was the reason Okayu almost graduated

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:34:02 2023 No.52216028 >>52215707 You're right at least NijiEN doesn't have unironic camwhores that sell their tits and ass on fanbox (while still being on the company)

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:34:05 2023 No.52216034 >>52215923 None of them knew about the EN homos before the actual announcement, not even the JP management.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:34:18 2023 No.52216046 >>52215916 by spreading more rrats and drama about them outside here everytime they shitpost

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:34:39 2023 No.52216065 >>52215981 >implying Sana knows nothing about Hololive before joining Kek

Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:34:41 2023 No.52216067

>connect the world concert is almost ending
>9 HoloENs are singing the SSS then CtW
>"I hope you enjoy today's performance"
>"Oh you want more? An Encore?"
>"Encore? Sha naiii na"
>"But just for the encore, we aren't gonna do it but insteaddddddd..."
>Hall dims black
>5 silhouettes appears on stage
>"WE'RE READY TO GREET THE WORLD" (or their own OG)
Would it happen?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:35:14 2023 No.52216090 >>52216067 No.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:35:22 2023 No.52216096 >>52216034 That was only astel a number of them have said that they were afraid of losing their foreign viewers once they debut

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:36:14 2023 No.52216133 File: 398 KB, 2045x1170, 1664482336853966.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>52216015 I'm glad she's sticking around, can't wait when she hit 33+ tho

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:36:17 2023 No.52216138 >>52216067 >9 HoloENs

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:36:23 2023 No.52216141 >>52216065 >implying sana had any idea of how much idol reps they actually had

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:36:33 2023 No.52216153 >>52216067 I feel cringe reading this

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:36:33 2023 No.52216154 File: 409 KB, 789x736, dz.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>52216067 this requires Cover to hire more women

Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:37:15 2023 No.52216187

>>52216096
Yeah, after they were announced. There were talks about a StarsEN months before Cover even started pushing for their auditions which might be what you're mentioning but every StarsJP member who talked about StarsEN pre-debut said they didn't know a thing about it, which from the top of my head were Astel, Oga and Rikka.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:37:24 2023 No.52216194 >>52215852 >Hololive >Forcing someone to stream fucking lmao cant even get the basics right

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:37:43 2023 No.52216211 File: 293 KB, 1204x799, 1680717421048877.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:37:55 2023 No.52216220 >>52215981 >He doesn't know the legendary back pain tale

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:38:39 2023 No.52216250 File: 133 KB, 900x1200, 1686809112746411.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] nice homo thread don't forget to buy

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:39:08 2023 No.52216272 >>52216067 you forgot the last one >it's tempiss 3 and the fans start throwing shit on the stage

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:39:08 2023 No.52216270 >>52216211 If you combine both Yuck's and Kyo's numbers, they beat Bae.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:39:13 2023 No.52216279 >>52216187 Nah some of them did have an idea that stars would expand in en eventually i think it was temma or that reverse yugo that mentioned it the only thing that was not said was when that expansion was

Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:39:56 2023 No.52216307

>>52215751
>watch a small indie that really isn't a fan of the usual Twitch vtuber culture and likes Hololive much more
>genuine 10/10 personality, good voice, good gamer

>absolutely zero schedule consistency and plays the same game over and over instead of having a variety of content

I feel like the vast majority of "undiscovered" small indies right now, even ones that would otherwise be a perfect culture fit for HoloEN, have one poison pill or another. If they didn't, they're either seeing success as indies or they've found a small corpo.

Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:40:02 2023 No.52216314

>>52214391
The problem is Cover got beat to the punch by Nijisanji a looooong time ago. Male vtubers in Jp want to be brotubers like Kuzuha and chinman (e.g. Axia). Luxiem, by being both the first male vtuber group from the big 2 to debut in the west AND being successful, set the culture of what male vtubers should be in the west (Fujo pandering manwhores). It doesn't matter if most of their audience are chinks and Twitter troons, they were a success so now any male vtuber group will either have to follow their blueprint (Shoto) or try to be the "Not Luxiem" group (what Tempus was marketed as in the beginning). I'm just glad male vtubers in the west are dying faster and faster since the sooner these assholes leave the medium the better. I'm not even hoping for a brotuber replacement anymore like I would've last year since it's finally dawned on me. Any male streamer talented enough to become the mythical brotuber would be better off just streaming with a cam and mic.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:40:02 2023 No.52216311 >>52216194 >anon logic: there's no streaming quota in the contracts of Council I beleb

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:40:14 2023 No.52216324 >>52216220 >not knowing that the back pain would be the number one cause of her not being able to do idol reps

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:40:45 2023 No.52216338 >>52216311 Aqua, Ayame, Shion?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:41:13 2023 No.52216359 >>52216311 this, even during Kronii legendary triple break listed on her sched, she still stream some hours

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:41:15 2023 No.52216363 >>52216311 >enforced streaming quota >in hololive ruru rumao

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:41:31 2023 No.52216369 Crazy to think NijiEN3 will lose a member and we still don't have HoloEN3.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:41:55 2023 No.52216388 >>52216338 Is Council the pioneering gen? kek

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:41:56 2023 No.52216389 How is Azki inclining so hard considering her PL stuff? Did the holo fanbase suddenly turn into cucks overnight?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:42:08 2023 No.52216398 >>52216279 Yeah, when Cover started shilling the StarsEN auditions back in March. Still for the nth time none of them had any idea when they would drop before the announcement and the EN homos were only introduced to their senpai after it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:42:08 2023 No.52216396 >>52215916 My nigga Vazeline Bandaid will save the whole branch with his Bondage skill

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:42:16 2023 No.52216405 >>52216311 This aint nijisanji anon, hololive doesnt do forced streaming quotas

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:42:19 2023 No.52216410 File: 1.32 MB, 1749x851, 1668034985162064.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>52215364 YouTube CCV is unreliable compared to Twitch

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:42:56 2023 No.52216441 >>52216369 it's not that crazy, stop being dramaqueen, faggot

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:43:02 2023 No.52216446 >>52216311 Their only quota is making content 3 times a week for their first year. After that there's no quota. Twitter space, shorts, videos count as content.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:43:03 2023 No.52216447 File: 572 KB, 567x640, 1674225036245438.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] My WifeRyS is starting in 15 minutes! https://youtu.be/dUfj9E4Ph-4

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:43:30 2023 No.52216465 >>52216324 >he doesn't know Sana back pain was legendary because it was miraculously healed right after graduation

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:43:33 2023 No.52216471 >>52213316 you have to be completely retarded to think kenmochi, kanae and kuzuha make over 70% of their revenue

Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:44:09 2023 No.52216496

>>52216279
which means it doesn't make sense that they'd have been talking to each other pre-debut in the shared company server for weeks, and that it's far more likely that EN management got Tempus in a server pre-debut with the EN and ID girls in some sort of foreign branch solidarity move

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:44:19 2023 No.52216504 File: 170 KB, 460x276, new shitty member.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] toss this one on the shitter pile

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:44:42 2023 No.52216515 >>52216446 It might also count content that was scrapped or Cover not really giving a shit if you fulfill that requirement

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:44:49 2023 No.52216522 >>52215782 >when starsJP didn't even know Tempus were debuting Not really that surprising considering Roberu and Shien didnt even know Uproar was debuting until the announcement but i guess since nobody watches the stars people wouldnt bring that up

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:45:00 2023 No.52216530 >>52216389 The only redesign that actually buff in Hololive redesign history (Flare flopped, IRyS flopped, Fubuki we'll see), I bet it's the geoguessr tourist that stay to watch her, or fucking nousagi as usual

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:45:18 2023 No.52216548 >>52216504 Not ready to just toss the whole wave yet?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:46:08 2023 No.52216580 >>52216548 Vanta is the only one in this wave people might actually watch. If he becomes 3view, then you'll know it's over

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:46:10 2023 No.52216581 File: 12 KB, 565x213, 1685847443705515.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>52216410

Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:46:58 2023 No.52216616

>>52216496
>which means it doesn't make sense that they'd have been talking to each other pre-debut in the shared company server for weeks
Why would they talk to each other pre-debut in the shared company server though? Did Gen 5 or Myth/Council talk to ID3 before they debuted?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:47:08 2023 No.52216621 >>52215916 Easy We dont.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:48:08 2023 No.52216667 >>52215916 Graduate a member every day to get a full July sweep for the cripple tally

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:48:23 2023 No.52216687 >>52216410 >not knowing that twitch bots is actually cheaper and easier to manipulate since twitch advertisers dont care about ccv accuracy compared to yt

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:48:25 2023 No.52216689 >>52216446 >After first year there's no quota. So year 2 Council can actually do nothing and collect money during anniversary? Why would Cover agree to these terms that invite leeches? Also citation?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:48:57 2023 No.52216718 >>52214200 >At the end of the day vtubing is synonymous with hololive in the west. >No Western brand sponsorship >Viewerbase is hardlock on YT >Have to abide by Japanese playbook Truly the grimmest timeline

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:49:17 2023 No.52216737 >>52216616 Myth and councilRyS did talk pre debut. That's why Gura was selling people on her voice and singing

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:49:19 2023 No.52216740 File: 322 KB, 409x1783, 1667368534255115.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Nice chat Pomu

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:49:34 2023 No.52216752 >>52216689 yes? why are you seething this hard? holy shit don't tell me you're actually 1-2view schizo

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:49:58 2023 No.52216777 >>52215338 >>52215547 >>52215503 https://streamable.com/n0u3w9

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:50:14 2023 No.52216794 >>52216740 >Pomu got refugees who had nothing better to watch No wonder her numbers were so high

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:50:19 2023 No.52216798 >>52216737 Were talking about cross jp and en inter-action anon which what was implied

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:50:59 2023 No.52216831 >>52216314 >Any male streamer talented enough to become the mythical brotuber would be better off just streaming with a cam and mic. But what if, like, he was really really really ugly irl? >Verification not required.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:51:25 2023 No.52216863 >>52216831 No cam that shit.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:51:29 2023 No.52216867 >>52215742 *Hololive (35)

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:52:13 2023 No.52216908 >>52216752 >seething weird projection since I didnt use any strong words. nah the terms made zero senses. It encourages freeriding to the maximum. Also citation?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:53:29 2023 No.52216963 >>52215251 Has IM ever had a proven track record of merch sales? Say, if one day IM does a sololive, would she be as successful as Mori, for example? Are twitch fans valuable in that aspect?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:54:01 2023 No.52216993 >>52216908 because newfags still thinks that cover is like anycolor and that they have mandatory forced requirements

Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:54:09 2023 No.52216996

>>52216405
You are very naive. Hololive is a corporation where contracts are very important. You can bet your ass that Hololive has some type of streaming quota or stipulation. It may not be weekly or even monthly, but they 100% have leverage to force them to stream.

You can't line-up sponsors if the talents can just flake out at the last second for whatever they want.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:54:14 2023 No.52217000 >>52216798 This is easy to find out. Someone should SC Kiara and ask her

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:55:27 2023 No.52217050 >>52216867 Yeah, what I said Hololive(35) can really make male collabs and be more entertaining than the rest. We need more

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:56:13 2023 No.52217088 ffs fucking mori got pinged by her manager because she streaming way too much, where does this streaming quota rrat came for?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:56:46 2023 No.52217105 >>52216581 Thanks for proving my point with your screenshot that shown how difficult and expensive it is to get CCV on Twitch compared to YouTube.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:56:50 2023 No.52217108 >>52216963 mouse sells a ton of merch

Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:56:50 2023 No.52217110

>>52216996
>Hololive is a corporation where contracts are very important. You can bet your ass that Hololive has some type of streaming quota or stipulation
Anon if that were the case a ton of talents would have been fired by now
Hololive does have quotas but again you are assuming that hololive is a streaming company which is where your belief of a streaming quota probably comes from
The only quota that they probably have and enforce are idol reps since that is their bread and butter

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:57:19 2023 No.52217126 >>52217000 really kiara? begging for sc now?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:57:38 2023 No.52217145 >>52216996 >force them to stream. yeah they should stream when it's close to their anniversary / birthday / releasing cover or original song to promote them

Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:58:01 2023 No.52217171

>>52216993
no citation?
>mandatory forced requirements
>it's forced slavery omg
Nah if you take from the brand as a newcomer(aka leech) you should give back to the brand. Not rocket science.
Without quota it's basically inviting all the laziest and most irresponsible people to join.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:58:14 2023 No.52217180 >>52217088 >where does this streaming quota rrat came for? unironically from nijisanji after selen implied that nijien had a minimum quota for streams and engagement rate

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:58:42 2023 No.52217206 >>52217108 of what?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:59:37 2023 No.52217252 >>52217171 only problem in your argument is that you are assuming covers quota is in streams when its probably not since its not a streaming company

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:59:37 2023 No.52217251 https://vrabi.net/channel/UCIBY1ollUsauvVi4hW4cumw Is holoX a flop by holo standards? Chloe didn't break 10k a single time this month. Why is there no schizo for them like gen5 even though gen5 does much better than them?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:59:41 2023 No.52217256 >>52217088 I think maybe they get a quota for the first month and that's it. Outside that is up to them I feel like.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 02:00:54 2023 No.52217319 >>52217108 vshojo is the major mover of mouse merch her own personal merch wasnt doing so well which is why she joined that promotion group

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 02:01:16 2023 No.52217336 >>52216616 Retard only branches of the same languages get to speak before debut until this point.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 02:01:37 2023 No.52217354 File: 509 KB, 1080x1065, Screenshot_2023-06-27-10-00-37-964_com.brave.browser-edit.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>52216687 That's bullshit because Twitch doesn't count bots as views.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 02:01:42 2023 No.52217356 >>52217126 She is the only member that would share that info.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 02:01:49 2023 No.52217359 >>52217336 Yeah, and Uproar got to talk with all the JP girls, right?

Anonymous Tue Jun 27 02:01:59 2023 No.52217373

>>52217110
Talents can break the contract and Hololive might just ignore it. A smart company would know when it's worth fighting. It's like working at a company and only doing 20 hours of work but producing high value in those 20 hours. The company doesn't really care because you are still producing value.

Same deal at Hololive, if a streamer doesn't work the required hours they might ignore it, but they can 100% fire you if they think it's a good deal on their side.

Remember that most of these girls are dumb and likely don't lawyer up before signing the paper.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 02:02:03 2023 No.52217378 Thought on Zaion dabing on nijien management again? https://twitter.com/SayuOkami/status/1673459167816998913

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 02:02:55 2023 No.52217418 >>52214132 >The same reason people follow roads and don't try to rough it over the countryside anon If that's the case then off-roaders wouldn't exists anon It's just that everyone else is suck at being the off-road in the Vtubing world

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 02:03:17 2023 No.52217435 >>52217252 so no citation at all. >not a streaming company So cover can stop all its streaming services and be totally fine? And people will still see cover as the same company? If yes then it is indeed not a streaming company

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 02:03:29 2023 No.52217442 https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1673511961827635200 Hololive English conversation book coming out to help nips learn english lol

Anonymous Tue Jun 27 02:03:33 2023 No.52217447

>>52215916
Find their own goddamn identity. Right now they're just indie vtubers but corporate. What's the point? Also, drop the family shit. Oh you want to be close like a family, do you know what you shouldn't mix with family? Work and finances. Do you know one type of drama causes the greatest grief? Family drama. Given the lefties in the group, it's ridiculous that they'd drink the "corporate family" kool-aid. Treat them as co-workers/colleagues first then friends if your relationship develops that way.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 02:03:49 2023 No.52217463 >>52217378 Not clicking, post an image

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 02:03:59 2023 No.52217471 >>52217373 >Remember that most of these girls are dumb and likely don't lawyer up before signing the paper. Anon, they can just find another one who's willing to sign the paper.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 02:04:10 2023 No.52217481 >>52217373 >if a streamer doesn't work the required hours Hololive is not a streaming company.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 02:04:18 2023 No.52217489 >>52217105 $200 is expensive? You have to be 18 to post here

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 02:04:25 2023 No.52217500 File: 15 KB, 577x127, 788948.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>52217463

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 02:05:01 2023 No.52217530 >>52211793 >Why do they mock us? We just shitposted their talents, harassed one into graduation and tried to get them banned from Youtube. It's not a big deal.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 02:05:34 2023 No.52217559 >>52215251 Honest question, what is the reason you like vsojo tho?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 02:05:42 2023 No.52217567 >>52217442 >Only myth Cover hates council and has since their debut honestly. It shouldn't be like this, they should be shooting council too but never do unless myth is attached to them

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 02:06:03 2023 No.52217597 >>52217435 >so no citation at all. You should check their website They do streams as part of their services but are not just devoted to streaming since they do animated videos and multimedia projects

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 02:06:06 2023 No.52217601 >>52216777 Retard

Anonymous Tue Jun 27 02:06:30 2023 No.52217628

>people thinking a talent is stuck on a single contract for the entirety of her time in a company
You guys never heard of contract renewal and renegotiation? Have you never considered that Holo might have a slightly harsher contract at debut but get a better one during renewal?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 02:06:43 2023 No.52217645 >>52217489 Yeah it's doesn't cover your profits in long run. Are you gounded to reality yet?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 02:06:45 2023 No.52217648 File: 287 KB, 1200x900, 30268-961-31a4b317c673f82ef220ed8d44de0c45-1200x900.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>52217442 >Kiara teaching English The artist it the Yuruyuri mangaka

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 02:06:58 2023 No.52217661 >>52217442 Why do they keep pushing EN to JOPs? Is this their last resort to save the branch?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 02:07:04 2023 No.52217670 >>52217373 >if a streamer doesn't work the required hours hololive aint a streaming company anon

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 02:07:20 2023 No.52217686 >>52217088 Because it was in the contract on their website but it’s outdated

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 02:07:29 2023 No.52217696 >>52211637 That's Niji, Hololive is much more Japanese culturally.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 02:07:41 2023 No.52217709 >>52217661 seethe

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 02:08:01 2023 No.52217732 >>52217050 Beg more.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 02:08:32 2023 No.52217775 >>52217628 /#/ isn't smart enough to consider that

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 02:08:42 2023 No.52217786 >>52217696 Niji is unironically more sinocentric than western influenced especially with their clique culture

Anonymous Tue Jun 27 02:08:55 2023 No.52217798

>>52217489
it's a question of return on investment. if you spend $200 on a stream you need to get 80 subscribers from it to break even, that's a lot for even medium-large legit streamers. it's a huge waste if you're actually trying to make money from streaming.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 02:08:57 2023 No.52217801 File: 133 KB, 862x775, 1630322442074.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>52211591 >It's good to have cancer collected in one place The cancer has been rotting HoloEN from the inside for a while now

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 02:09:26 2023 No.52217833 File: 196 KB, 1000x1200, ba4fdabdbb6b59a071d9fbf85e938979.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I love Fauna and Mumei. I hope Fauna can rope Mooms into more MC collabs for some impromptu zatsus

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 02:09:34 2023 No.52217845 >>52217661 I don't see it as a issue? It's either them turning into western poltards or submit to Imperial Japan rule.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 02:09:55 2023 No.52217868 >>52217732 I don't need to

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 02:09:59 2023 No.52217872 >>52217686 >but it’s outdated and anon itt argued based on outdated shit? why?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 02:10:06 2023 No.52217879 >>52217798 thats mostly because anon is a retard people who are smart actually go to another service that provides the same viewers + chat bots and 24/7 support

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 02:10:07 2023 No.52217880 >>52217601 What?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 02:10:30 2023 No.52217909 >>52217359 >Until this point Less than 20 words and you couldn’t reach the end of the statement. Shorts are turning children into retards afterall. And before you try to move the goalposts >BRANCHES

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 02:10:41 2023 No.52217926 >>52217481 >>52217670 Hololive is a Vtuber company, and part of that includes streaming. It's part of the business model and any talent unwilling to stream is going to be at a major disadvantage compared to their peers.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 02:10:44 2023 No.52217930 >>52211793 why? even if they do niji is FAR ahead in the graduations metric

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 02:10:45 2023 No.52217934 >>52217872 What else do they got?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 02:10:50 2023 No.52217942 >>52217872 To push a narrative

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 02:11:10 2023 No.52217956 >>52217909 So HoloEN and StarsEN are part of the same branch?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 02:11:14 2023 No.52217960 >>52217648 NENE DON'T DO IT

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 02:11:15 2023 No.52217961 >>52217628 no lol, just bash hololive first, fact checking and rationalize later

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 02:11:39 2023 No.52217985 File: 811 KB, 1267x888, CCVIsAReliableMetric.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>52215364

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 02:11:53 2023 No.52217997 >>52217686 This doesn't make fucking sense since we have koyori and kaela. It's just her manager caring too much again.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 02:11:55 2023 No.52217999 >>52212205 VSPO, they're doing better than Niji now.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 02:12:22 2023 No.52218030 >>52214608 Rikotan too in a ferw months.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 02:12:36 2023 No.52218051 >>52217926 nta but these two anons sound like retards to me. Considering we have been discussing about holo streams all day everyday here.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 02:12:49 2023 No.52218066 >>52217926 Streaming was not a thing during Kizuna AI's era.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 02:12:55 2023 No.52218070 >>52217926 >Hololive is a Vtuber company Holilive is an all female Idol agency

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 02:13:13 2023 No.52218088 Is this a puzzle game? -irys

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 02:13:23 2023 No.52218101 File: 141 KB, 369x333, crowbringer.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] so this is why them sisters riled up today

Anonymous Tue Jun 27 02:13:37 2023 No.52218120

>>52217670
>hololive aint a streaming company anon
Is this what ENfags tell themselves to soothe their asspain over getting no content? So if Gura isn't streaming then what is she doing? No songs, and her birthday stream was phoned in bullshit that she scraped together at the last minute.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 02:13:56 2023 No.52218152 >>52217442 Kiara >Esl Mori >Atrocious grammar Gura >English surprisingly solid but the last person you’d want to learn from Ina >Fine Ame >Properly improper

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 02:14:08 2023 No.52218165 How is Irys not getting a buff for this?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 02:14:31 2023 No.52218185 >>52218101 >sent out to die They didn’t even stand a chance.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 02:14:34 2023 No.52218188 >>52218101 does anybody in the new gens add something new to the branch

Anonymous Tue Jun 27 02:14:43 2023 No.52218201

>>52217926
>It's part of the business model and any talent unwilling to stream is going to be at a major disadvantage compared to their peers.
Not really considering their peers have been streaming consistently and they have reclined even worse
Streaming consistently aint shit when you dont have the entertainment factor

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 02:14:45 2023 No.52218204 what the hell is Irys even doing

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 02:14:54 2023 No.52218215 >>52218165 Mori and bae overlap and a bunch of HoloENs played this game already

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 02:15:04 2023 No.52218221 >>52218152 Congratulations anon you just learned that American and Canadians ain't Brits

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 02:15:25 2023 No.52218251 >>52218152 >English surprisingly solid a bwoo bwoo bwoo hey stinkies how ya like garlic bread

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 02:15:26 2023 No.52218252 Shitrys is the most embarrassing vtuber of all time

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 02:15:41 2023 No.52218274 >>52218185 At least Russian soldiers got an AK when Purin sent them out.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 02:15:53 2023 No.52218291 >>52218120 >So if Gura isn't streaming then what is she doing? Same thing Ayame, Shion or Aqua was doing when they were in their not streaming phase and the same thing Haachama is doing right now

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 02:15:55 2023 No.52218294 >>52218204 I would like to say "her best", but I don't want to lie

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 02:16:00 2023 No.52218305 >>52212669 Looks like this homo is going to be a failure as well

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 02:16:10 2023 No.52218311 >>52216067 Is the current EN so bad that people keep begging for EN3?

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