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What went wrong?

>> No.52101539

>>52101448
>wrong timezone
>bitch
>creative burnout
>bland
>no ztream

>> No.52101541

your sexuality

>> No.52101557

Yeah I don't know how she fucked up the teeth

>> No.52101579

>>52101448
>voice debuff
I heard you KFP. I don't care if her voice isn't like that anymore. I'm still not watching.
>actually on a redemption arc
Her songs are still mid tho.
>i am not sure...
>fell for bait almost as obvious as the "we are not friends" one
>rarely streams

>> No.52101589

>>52101448
>Mori
Being Mori
>Ame
Antagonizing her fanbase
>Ina
No stream and just being an unsufferable bitch
>Gura
Garlic bread

Only Kiara is somewhat decent but I can't bear her voice

>> No.52101606

>>52101448
mori

>> No.52101636

They were a prototype, a mere launching pad for the superior Council.

>> No.52101648

>>52101448
>voice
>mori
>antagonizing her fanbase
>not streaming
>not streaming

>> No.52101694

Every time they showed the worst parts of themselves simps enabled them and now they have no reason to do better.

>> No.52101765

>>52101448
without them we wouldn't have Fauna and Mumei so thank you I guess

>> No.52101809

>>52101448
needs to graduate to become an EN myth for future talents to talk about.

>> No.52101828

>>52101448
>Awful chicken voice and narcissistic backstabber.
>Drama magnet and awful rap.
>Twitch ethot personality and lusts for cock.
>Korean prude + boring streams.
>Alcoholism and zero streams.

>> No.52101837

>>52101765
amen

>> No.52101891

>>52101579
Of course the cuckbeats struggles to find something bad with Mori.

>> No.52102041

>>52101448
too successful
they don't have to worry about paying rent or debts

>> No.52102072
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52102072

Ladies and Gentlemen, this is Hololive #5:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tV6PvfDK-ro

>> No.52102104

>>52101891
the most honest brapbeat defense of Mori they can think of is "I mean, Mori (or her music) could be worse..."

>> No.52102277

>Kiara
Try's way too hard feels like the closest to her gen who will menhara
>Calli
Has an obvious bitch side and watching her is like waiting for the gun to go off
>Ame
Pretty cool but doesn't try anymore
>Ina
The chill girl that is losing her chill cause she doesn't know how to confidently handle the horny ones
>Gura
Who? Nahh, imho Hololive is holding her reigns, when she wanted to do Karaoke HoloEN got worried didn't it? Kind of suffers from unique restrictions due to her popularity.

>> No.52102613

>>52101448
They got competition and now their previous viewers watch better vtubers.

>> No.52102832

>>52101448
Sabotaged by management to make sure JP stays on top of the company
if other Jp corpos weren't even more incompetent we might actually see them put some effort towards EN as JP numbers inevitably go down.

>> No.52102995

>>52101891
I was talking about Ame

>> No.52103017
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>>52101589
>>52101648
Is this "Ina not ztreaming" some sort of brand new discord gaslight? Since when 5 streams per week is not streaming? I literally migrated from Gura to Ina so that I get ztreams.

>> No.52103204

>>52101448
Takamori are the only ones putting effort in. The other 3 are clearly all tapped out.

>> No.52104100

>>52101448
They are still good as indiviudal talents of holoEN at what they do. They just lost the group chemistry. You could argue if they ever had one from the beginning but they were "forced" to do stuff together whether it was at their own volition of genuinely wanting to be an unit or company mandated stuff. As time went on they focused on doing their own thing more as they found their own niche as talents.
I think they are 5 very unique personalities that doesn't necessarily mesh together well as they don't have common grounds or personality traits. It makes them stand out more but hard to have chemistry as one.
I honestly do not think any of them got "worse". I would say if you were a day one fan and not a mentally ill manchild who gets offended by nothingburgers you would still enjoy them today if not more for the most part at least

>> No.52104320

>>52101448
>works hard
>annoying bitch
>lost creativity
>can’t say anything horny to her
>never streams
Kiara is the only good

>> No.52104335

>>52101539
Thread/

>> No.52104410

>>52101589
>Unsufferable
Good morning, sir

>> No.52104414

>>52101589
>>Gura
>Garlic bread
Explain

>> No.52104461

>>52101765
No IRyS love?
>4NG0Y
KEK

>> No.52104669

>>52101448
Nothing. You're a faggot.

>> No.52104931
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52104931

feminism, the cause. gura's based and the rest are shunning her because that's what women do to each other. mori was never properly wrangled and still think there's a way into the rap game when there isn't. my actual theory? with no NA senpai they had no peer failures to look upon. notice how council is at least trying to avoid myth's mistakes? Kronii being pulled back from going full Mori by her sisters, moom realizing she needs to keep it in check around non-NTs, stuff like that.

>> No.52105128

>>52102072
It's over.

>> No.52105592

>KFP circlejerking thread shitting on the other girls number #458932125877

>> No.52105751

>>52102072
Walfie and his consequences were a disaster for HoloEN.

>> No.52106391

What is this thread, they are all fine to me.
Better than indie vtubers who just last a year.

Okay well Gura is debatable but which manager told her pooling all projects into one day was a good idea?

>> No.52108507

>>52102072
>1 year ago

>> No.52108829

>>52101448
Impressive how they are perfectly ordered by the amount of effort put in streaming.

>> No.52109734

>>52101448
Kiara
>Annoying
>Me Me me
>Debuffed herself by being socially retarded with Calli
>Generally socially retarded
>No backbone to be found
>Socially cringe
>Collab beggar
Calli
>Debuffed herself by being socially retarded with Kiara
>Permissions beggar
Ame
>Reminded us that the vast majority of people are born in dirt and shit and would rather stay in the dirt and shit if given the choice
Ina
>Lazy
>Prude
>Buzzkill
>Doesn't stream
>Korean, enough said
Gura
>Doesn't stream
>Doesn't stream
>Doesn't stream
>Doesn't stream

>> No.52110693
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>>52101448
Kiara:
>Nothingburgers
Mori:
>Wigger and hates Hololive culture but seems to be getting over it
Ame:
>Nothingburgers
Ina:
>Nothingburgers
Gura:
>Doesn't stream

>> No.52110961

>>52101448
>Kiara
Filtered out casuals, now she has zero traction in the general fandom.
>Mori
People got tired of her endless amount of music and her previously erratic scheduling eroded her streaming audience.
>Ame
Creative rut so she lost the very thing she was known for and inconsistent with streaming.
>Ina
Hololive became the sidejob for her and takos are running amok with her public image, further eroding Ina's commitment to the job.
>Gura
Less solo streams in half a year than some other ENs do in a month regularly, with close to zero reasoning.
>as a group
Ina's and Gura's absence and the gen being preoccupied with trips to Japan back and forth for various reasons, plus the timezones make scheduling collabs hard. CouncilRyS on the other hand has been joined at the hips since the start of the year, so the people who were interested in group dynamics went from Myth to them.
>what can be done
Ina and Gura commit to Hololive completely, Ame finds her passion once again, Mori releases music that reignites interest in her and pray for a miracle in the case of Kiara.

>> No.52111064

>>52101539
The wrong timezone is great. It's fun to have someone in the unique role of doing morning streams. For us non-neets it's something we can put on during the work hours. Love Kiara.

>> No.52111106

>>52101589
says the fag who probably never watches kiara

>> No.52111321

>>52111106
Watching streams?
I DON'T WANT TO!!

>> No.52111409

>>52109734
>Kiara
>socially retarded

she's used to be abrasive and say some depressive menhera stuff but she's mellowed out a lot these days.
saying she's socially retarded is just not true, she's proactive and makes connections with JP. also she literally does holoTalk
the socially retarded one is mori who makes collabs cringe and can't respect basic company culture like not streaming over birthdays

>> No.52111654

>>52101448
> says things she shouldn't
> weird teacher voice
> bitch
> boring bitch
> missing, hates fans, no tweets

>> No.52111808

>>52101448
literally
indonesians

>> No.52112105

>>52101448
The real answer
1. Shit management actively sabotaging their branch
2. Instant success and unwavering support made them not appreciate anything they had

>> No.52112149
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>> No.52112207

>too orange
>shouldn't be a vtuber
>doesn't want to be a streamer at all
>shouldn't be a vtuber
>your free trial has expired, please contact sales for full access to your streamer
combined, they're just totally dysfunctional considering that 99% of their energy is in the orange woman or forced shipping

>> No.52115627

>>52101448
I can only speak for myself, but I unironically stopped watching because of the male collabs.

>> No.52115909

>Kiara, where do we even start?
>Mori is just a disgusting human being that somehow makes trailer trash look palatable
>Ina is dull, harmless, but is compiling health issues apparently
>Ame is autistic and has too many women moments
>Gura is incredibly lazy and never recovered after getting doxxed by Mori at the AirBnB

Also CouncilRyS are just better entertainers.

>> No.52116000

lmao mori's hory shitto living rent free lmao
cope general I guess

>> No.52116289

[zooms out slowly revealing suffocating Japanese restrictions on any and all things that could be fun/creative]

Ah, so that's what the problem is. Japanese laws are made to be archaic legal slogs that suck for entertainment. Yagoo's biggest misstep was not opening a Nintendo of America for HoloEN after the first year of EN1 when they had lightning in a bottle. That would have let them play any game and sing any song without dealing with Japanese laws. Instead, he let them rot on a pile of Minecraft stream#48585 and 12 singable karaoke songs.

>> No.52116392

>>52101448
>nothing
>too many to count
>improve yourself
>doesn't stream/hates her fans
>doesn't stream/ afraid of her fans

>> No.52116510

>>52101448
Gura was their hard carry and stopped streaming
Ame fought her fanbase and got burn out
Ina is kind of still going but at low motivation
Mori turned out to be a bad actor
Kiara was bad from the start

>> No.52117142

>>52111409
that post you're replying to is funny
If Kiara has "No backbone to be found", then she would've caved to homobeggar pressure by now, right? She would've caved to all the doxcord spam that happened in 2020/2021 and graduated, right?
SEAschizos really have 80 IQs and this board proves it every day.

>> No.52117164

>>52116289
>Yagoo's biggest misstep was not opening a Nintendo of America for HoloEN
You do know what Nintendo of America is doing to their brand right? Ruining everything Nintendo stands for.

>> No.52117287

>>52116289
the japanese restrictions are a blessing

>> No.52117567

>>52101448
>2 years later and Kiara is the only one still invested beyond personal gain
KFP, I kneel...

>> No.52121093

Kiara has the chicken voice and a timezone that is hard for the majority of EN fans.
Mori was always Mori, no matter how Deadbeats say she's on a redemption arc, I remember she was on like at least 3 redemption arcs.
Ame decided to stop trying and fights her fanbase at every opportunity.
Ina was always boring, but now she's gotten preachy and annoying.
Gura is fucking dead.

>> No.52121310
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What went wrong?

>> No.52121357

>>52101448
COVID ended and the normies left

>> No.52121487
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>>52111106
Anon, when someone creates a thread on why they don't like kiara, and i reply with "i don't like her voice" and then scroll down to read the replies, and everyone is saying the exact same thing, it really speaks volumes.

>> No.52121946

>>52104414
NTA but they probably are referring to her random "garlic bread" tweet she made during the period of time most people were giving her the benefit-of-the-doubt over her lapse in streaming. Obviously now we have more people openly resenting her inability or her choice not to communicate why she hasn't been streaming much lately. https://twitter.com/gawrgura/status/1646548292090707968

>> No.52122292

>>52102072
>you now realize Kiara is the "centre" position of myth

>> No.52124240

>>52101448
Need to stream more. Also EU was never a healthy slot to go after. Doubling dipping or trying to will kill a channel.

>> No.52124662

>>52116289
Do you even watch Hololive, retard?

>> No.52124827

>>52121357
>He thinks the pandemic is over
How cute.

>> No.52124874

>>52101448
Thanks to them CouncilRys debuted and the branch crashed

>> No.52124933

>>52101765
Yeah now we have two more whores in the branch. Yay...

>> No.52125010

>>52101448
>annoying bitch
>two-timing bitch
>holier-than-thou bitch
>prude bitch
>lazy bitch

>> No.52125028

>>52109734
>>52111409
>Socially retarded
>Not Gura, Ina and Ame
Bruh

>> No.52125182

> Corpo tries to appeal to moronic western audiences with literal whores who have no talent or charisma or chemistry
> Branch fails after countless red flags of its inevitable fall
> Complete blind retards: "WHat weNT WRONG?!"

>> No.52125220

Who knew asking people to not be annoying controlling coomers would piss off a bunch very socially inept retards that watch 1 stream a month

>> No.52125297

>>52125028
Myth fucks up a lot, but their crown jewel is managing to be the most cringe members of hololive production.

>> No.52125678

>>52125182
You will never Japanese

>> No.52126660

>>52115909
If you have to shit on some other group to make yours look good that makes you look like a cunt

>> No.52126951

>>52103017
She's back on a good schedule now but she had a ton of gaps in the past 12 months including a 3 whole month hiatus. She was probably my #1 in Hololive for a while but I've almost completely stopped watching her. All the hiatuses resulted in me turning my attentions elsewhere and I'm not that compelled to go back even if she's on schedule again now.

>> No.52127027

>>52124933
You don't know what whore means do you ?

>> No.52127093

>>52101448
Only 2/5 actively stream, but unfortunately for /vt/, they're the 2 they hate.

>> No.52127095

>White wahm*n fail
Aw shucks.

>> No.52127340

>>52127093
Literally all of them except gura streams but no one in this thread watches streams

>> No.52127445

>>52127095
>Ina
>white

>> No.52127496

>>52101448
1/5 has a work ethic

>> No.52127592

>>52104335
Based selfthreader.

>> No.52127702

>>52101589
Learn English.

>> No.52127929

>>52127445
>Korea
>weirdo feminist cult ruled bugman dystopia
>wam*n + bug hivemind buff
>actual white skin
Basicly counts

>> No.52127986

>>52111064
Kiara has become my go-to morning streamer as someone who WFH on east coast time. Great to have some background yapping while I work

>> No.52128620

>>52127986
Haha~ Normie, normie!

>> No.52128661

Kiara - She hasn't changed significantly since she began streaming. Although she's not my favorite, I can see her appeal, particularly given the scarcity of streams from Gura.

Mori - I was quite fond of her initially, but around last year, I started to find her somewhat dull. However, I'm pleased to see her music career thriving.

Ina - She's admittedly an acquired taste. Not everyone, will appreciate her. ESPECIALLY coomers.

Ame - I genuinely believe she could benefit from taking a six-month hiatus. There seems to be a hint of burnout in her demeanor.

Gura - Her lack of streaming, reluctance to share why she isn't streaming, and her inability to communicate her reasons clearly, are frustrating.

>> No.52128729

>>52101448
only one who doesn't hate her fans is the one without fans

>> No.52128872

Generally speaking, it's the fact that they got too used to being hostile towards their audience. People always wanna scream at tempus (which did help to reduce their numbers but not that much) but everyone conveniently ignores the fact that they already had problems as streamers way before. Mori did it several times, Ame STILL does it, Ina still does it, but over the most mundane shit ever instead. Kiara has somehow managed well and Gura isn't around enough to give much of a shit about pretty much anything anymore. Now combine that with how sometimes they just don't fucking stream, and there you have it. Ultimately, they just got too comfortable and they cracked under the most basic pressure a streamer experiences.

>> No.52129045

>>52101539
Sounds pretty accurate.

>> No.52129102

Kiara is cute
Mori is cute
Ame is cute
Ina
Gura is cute

>> No.52130113

>>52124827
Are you intentionally missing the point or do you not live in the US? "The federal public health emergency for COVID-19 expired on May 11, 2023." Some states ended their state of emergency even earlier than that and lifted their restrictions. Less people staying home = less people watching EN streams. Not a hard concept to grasp.

>> No.52130413

>>52124827
It never began.
Say bye to evaporated goytax money.
BYE BYE!!

>> No.52139517

>>52101448
Nothing. Everyone is just beginning to realize that the language barrier is what they liked about Hololive

>> No.52145149

>>52116289
It's because all western vtubers are inherently shit not because of any timezone or law bullshit.
If you look at the objective empirical facts after pulling your head out of your ass, there is literally no other explanation other than how innately garbage they are.

>> No.52145938

>>52145149
To you happen to know Japanese anon?

>> No.52146075
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>All those deadsubs
Yeah, Myth didn't do well as expected.

>> No.52148191

>>52128872
This post spoke to my soul, everything here is factual.

>> No.52148504

Why are you all so down?
Only a week left for Connect the World.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9BXURgumSo
Join the Hype!

>> No.52149108

>>52122292
it really shows her
>ME ME ME ME
behavior since she doesnt really deserve it, no matter how hard she works for it. its sad to see her as a once failed idol struggle to make it as a vtuber idol in the biggest company. oh well at least she has her chicken for comfort because without them, who knows what she would do

>> No.52149194

>>52101448
>Myth falters
>Competition implodes on itself spectacularly
Myth will make a comeback, unlike the competition. Look at Mori. All of HoloEN is inclining after Gura's Birthday stream. Looking good.

>> No.52149385

>>52122292
Everyone knows Kiara is the extrovert of the group. Didn't just realize that.

>> No.52149521

Bad managament neglected their emotional health and wellbeing, they weren't pushed to do events or had them organized for them, they were pretty much just left to handle everything themselves until they go tired.
The new gen release was also fucked, Gen 2 came too late and Gen 3 is still way way too fucking late, only having 5 talents for so long and still just 10 puts too much weight on them.
Also their success came too fast, too easy, too big. They did not work for it at all.
In the case of some it made them take it for granted and not care about it or their fans. In the case of others it gave them imposter syndrome.
It wasn't so evident initially but now it's pretty clear how badly it has hurt them.
They were also never pushed outside their comfort zone or to work hard, they are basically spoiled sheltered divas.
Management truly really just does not give a fuck about them.

>> No.52150279

>>52122292
In the only pic where she isn't in the middle, Kiara at first went to the middle but Ame made her move because Ame setup the 3d and ig she felt she deserved to be in the center lol

>> No.52150831

I think one of the biggest problems hololive en have is that they don't leave close to each other. Hololive JP know each other, they know who they are and can help each other. There's a lot of examples of good interactions that made their relationships better. And even if they don't stream or they felt down they can still se each other. They can go to cover and see real managers and talk to real people. I feel like doing everything online makes it feel like a void job. Just watching a black screen and everything ends when you close the stream other than some messages. You need to have a healthy mind, to handle that. A bunch of my university professors quit because of that. And I don't think they have the same pressure as this vtuber who are still for the most part young. Still I think living together with a physical company and seing you coworkers physically it's a real game changer, that I feel en never had.

>> No.52151007

>>52101448
>not beating the German out of her and teaching her how to read a room
>hiring a wigger drug addict
>I know literally nothing about Ame besides "tummy hort"
>hiring the one prude Korean
>alcoholism

>> No.52151892

> Hardworking, streaming a ton
> Hardworking, making music
> Hardworking, dealing with tech
> Chill Streamer, dealing with health and art
> Working Hard on herself and projects

All seems good to me

>> No.52151963

>>52101448
They decided to be idols.

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>>52149521
This, add also

>Cock Carousel 2 guuuud~~~~
>Simp sycophants frothing in utter denial having pissed thousands of dollars on them for a little dream they have in their pill-popped heads
>The girls emboldened and enabled borderline did sex "asmr" with every bathroom break with cuck chatters bowed in deafening submission
>Management care very little for any unusual behavior in fact, they apparently don't have much power unless an executive order kicks them in the ass
>don't seem to moderate any discord interactions apart from scheduling/pushing shill streams onto the groups
>Apart from Nijisanji, there's no competition to provoke them to better as a company, their standards, business acumen or how often the talents take "breaks"


And Lastly,

>The girls ultimately proved that if it wasn't for the simps, corporate backing or enrichment all under Cover's umbrella, they'd be sucking closet cock/snatch earning less then the average given their Drop-out statuses

V-Tubing is a mistake, fuck this board and hope this grifter's profession dies a harrowing Death soon

>> No.52156041

>>52101448
>Kiara
>Fucking hive mind, you're either only KFP or not KFP
>Doesn't even pay attention to her German channel

>Mori
>Lives the rapper lifestyle too much like a stereotype
>Much better as a fleshtuber IMO, she should graduate.

>Ame
>Stopped doing lore streams, those were the best
>Started playing shooters
>Stopped doing anything with effort, DESU

>Ina
>Fanbase too horny.
>Too prudish. Can't even lean into some memes.

>Gura
>No action on her accounts except where forced to by management
>Whiny loli.

>> No.52161347

>>52153444
MUH HECKING DISCORDERINO
take some more estrogen bro maybe you will feel better

>> No.52162849

>>52156041
gura's not even a whiney loli anymore, she barely pays attention to chat these days.

>> No.52163063

>>52162849
Never really did, compare gura to filian or numi, they have constant banter with chat, gura, even first year looked at chat once every 30 minutes

>> No.52163648

>>52163063
twitch is just much better if you want to talk with chat
youtube is unreadable

>> No.52163808

>>52101448
>When "Trinity" was pushed, it was Gura Ame and Ina, as Kiara and Mori were seen as either terrible or not deserving
>Mori is now the most Idol girl in all of EN, while Kiara is the face of EN
>Ame is barely holding on
>Ina got caught hiding in Japan from her fandom (Thanks Mel!)
>Gura LMAO

>> No.52164807

>>52161347
You're insults are as weightless/Impactful as you're life

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>>52153444
Trips of Scripture

Fuck it, it'll be fun to watch ignite and burn to ash, wishing you the best anon.

>> No.52166108

>>52102072
>The 2021 anniversary stream
Oh god, that was so good
>utter shitshow
>they had to get their own 3D shit made because Cover wouldn't do it at that time
>The end was their models fucking up while they drunkenly sang off key and did their own thing
It was incredible. I love it when their collabs fuck up because it makes the whole experience 10 times more entertaining.

>> No.52166161

PLAPPA DEFLECTION THREAD

>> No.52166197

>>52150279
ame had to be center because she's the POV, retard

>> No.52166697

>>52166108
while I enjoy the scuffed shit they ended up with I can understand doing everything themselves burnt them out. cover really fucked up by hiring people who didn't help them at all

>> No.52166701

>>52156041
>NO! NOT THE SHOOTERS!
Those are popular for a reason, anon. If you really wanted Ame's popularity to fall off harder, just get her to take a page out of Kiara's book and play JRPGs.

>> No.52167594

>>52111064
And for every other human being in the NA zone (a large pool of viewers) who isn't work from home, her timeslot is absolute shit. Not everyone is willing to be VoD-gang for lyfe but I am.

>> No.52168276

>>52101448
>What went wrong?
OP existing is what went wrong. Try to fix that...

>> No.52168597

>>52166701
it's an audience issue. JP streams a ton of jrpg, especially saturdays and gets a lot of views. kiara's biggest issue is her stream is too fucking early.

>> No.52168956

Looking for a short position on cover corp. Praise the LORD for them making that shit publically traded, going to ride that motherfucker into the ground.

>> No.52170837

>>52101579
>>actually on a redemption arc
surely it will stick this time!

>> No.52170926

>>52168956
Your $50 short will show them who's the boss!

>> No.52173494

>>52151963
Western women can't be idols. Watson actively hates it

>> No.52173756

>>52101448
>annoying voice
>drama addict
>hates fans
>just a side job
>lazy

>> No.52179022

>>52101448
Kiara, and unironically Mori, are fine

>> No.52180074

>>52149521
>Also their success came too fast, too easy, too big. They did not work for it at all.

I never truly felt like I was watching a streamer with 10k+ viewers with Myth. Especially someone like Ame or Ina. Those girls unironically still feel like 3 view type streamers to me sometimes, which even still is a disservice to some of the actually entertaining 3 view indies out there.

>> No.52180305

>>52180074
I kind of like that about Ina, though.
She clearly doesn't want to be this giant vtubing star, so she just talks about random bullshit and plays things to her own pace. I know the market for that kind of thing is small, but there our those of us who prefer this kind of atmosphere.

>> No.52180741

>>52180305
Setting aside Gura, Ina's the most watched Myth and EN funnily enough. Guess the market for "neet girl talks about her everyday happily" is pretty big

>> No.52181582

>>52180305
I suppose I didn't really mean that as a bad thing. I was only comparing them to the grander members in hololive, in which case they are still kind of smaller in comparison to the JP members. Pekora for example really owns up to being one of the grandest after her growth in the company. Some of those girls know how to be a showmen for their huge viewership. And of course some are not and that's fine.

>> No.52182240

>>52128872
Kiara's been knee deep in idol/streaming culture for over a decade. She knew exactly what to expect going into this job.

>> No.52185147

>>52102277
>doesn't know how to confidently handle the horny ones
Is this why she looks like a dude now? Seriously the most disgusting downgrade I've ever seen

>> No.52185394

>>52101448
Your dick was too small.

>> No.52186266

There was no Council.

>> No.52187322

>>52156041
There's way too much flesh for her to be a fleshtuber.

>> No.52188613

>>52101448
mori. She's either a massive dramafag or she's so boring its impossible to watch

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52189007

>>52101448
I feel nothing after Sana left, except even more lust for giant, saggy, chocolate udders.
If it takes all of vtubing to collaps for me to feel something again then so be it.

>> No.52189115

>>52166108
>credits rolling in silence was actually yet another fuck up, but it merely enhanced the experience
Legendary stream. Sad to know UNITY would never be the same.

>> No.52189624

>>52153444
Can you 3rd world schizos at least attempt to learn english before typing here?

>> No.52189783

>>52101589
This is how I know you don't watch them

>> No.52190887

>>52173756
Thread reader opinions

>> No.52191244

>>52180305
>she just talks about random bullshit and plays things to her own pace
I don't get what you understood from "don't feel like big vtubers" but this has nothing to do with that, many of the big JP holos do the same thing
what separates them is that 3 views do vtuber part time and don't really commit to it as a serious thing, well some 3 views do but with the bigger vtubers you do feel a higher sense of commitment, they have no other job and they value their experience as vtubers fully
with these girls it feels like they do it part time and don't really love it, at any time they might just decide to quit, this isn't their life

>> No.52191401

>>52101539
Sounds like cope because you imply Kiara would be massively successful if only she was NA tz

>> No.52191471

>>52191401
mot massively, but she'd see a real bump

>> No.52191592

I like them

>> No.52195915

>>52173756
correct

>> No.52197640

>>52189624
Sure thing anon, if you take all the plastic dick you suck daily and burn it Im sure it'll make all the "crazies" go away

Can't say the same for those anti-psychotics on the shelf you have

>> No.52198199

>>52197640
Stop obsessing over dicks anon

>> No.52198896

>>52198199
>this anon just pulled out a 2nd grader insult

You might sound effective if you tried tran-jo'

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