/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

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>male vtubers aren't pop-

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>>52078195
wow those numbers are amazing
other corpos should hire more male vtubers to get a piece of that popular demand

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3views in a week

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>>52078195
>50k less than Iloser
>20k less than Lolisex
Next wave's getting 20k debuts

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>>52078195
>Niji
3 view in a week

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>>52078195
Didn't HomoENs also get 40k debuts? They are all 3views

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proof these numbers are real and not bots?

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>>52078195
That's kinda low for a niji male debut stream. Noctyx all had 50k+ debuts. Will be 3view in a few weeks anyhow.

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>>52078575
Gen6 used go get near 100K debut???????

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>>52079107
Ren had just about 90k, yeah

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>Niji
>41k
What were Salome's numbers

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>>52079107
Alban peaked at 66k.
Ren peaked at 86k.
Hex peaked at 59k.
So yes, Niji EN debuts peaked with Gen 6 and are now declining.

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>>52079595
91k, then magically inclined to 130k in her following streams before her infamous nosedive

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>>52078195
Oh boy I can't wait for this totally organic viewership to stick around for a male vtuber with painfully generic taste in gaming and anime

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>>52079107
Yeah. Ilosers actually got 80-90k for all livers,

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bots

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You realize it's lower, right

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>>52078825
Only HQ. Veggies was 20k

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I know debut streams tend to be big deals, but why do the faggots drop off so hard? Is it all chinese women checking to see if they can see themselves being dom'd by whichever effete faggot they push out this time? It can't always be bots.

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>>52078195
>NijiEN went from 90k on Iluna to this
Goddamn

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>>52080114
DELETE THIS

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>>52079918
>91k, then magically inclined to 130k
It wasn't magical, if you aren't a fucking retard newfag who actually experienced her debut.

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>>52078195
Male vtubers aren't popular. There OP I finished your sentence for you.

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>>52080175
>>52078825
>>52080133
Can't wait for your 30k HoloEN debut holobrony

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>>52078195
Mumei pulled in that many for her damn outfit reveal.

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>>52080114
Iluna was so shit it completely killed off NijiEN growth.

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>>52080114
imagine being at the peak of your popularity and your decide to debut aia lmfao

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>>52080149
In Niji EN's case it's because twitter and reddit trannies tune in to "support the cause" and then they fuck off because they don't actually care.

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>>52080114
>Aia that high
Oof. That's gotta sting.
>Vezalius Bandage
wtf is that name, are they even trying anymore?

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>>52080348

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>>52080175
iluna was so bad they made they basically made more people give up on watching debuts

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>>52080348
im saving this post for future laughs

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>>52080275
My bad, it was bots

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>>52080114
Iluna had a really shit start the girls and ren are fine now, kyo is annoying as fuck and aster is a literal who in the branch

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>>52080114
Damn, that's huge a drop off.

>>52080149
There's a lot of possible explanations for why basically every male in Nijisanji EN probably fell off.
>Their female fans are probably ESL and don't understand them. There's only so much you can listen to someone to you dont understand before you lose interest, and the clips that came out this year probably didn't depict flattering portrayals of their oshis.
>Their female fans probably got tired of feeling like they were being taken advantage of. They probably got sick of Luxiem pretty much using them to pump their viewership and superchat revenue only to basically do a radical change in content. As a result they left to people that would fill in the void.
>ACCELERATE eventually took its toll on the fans. Even sisters who jumped on with NijiEN last year probably got tired of the constant debuts of livers that basically act and play and do the exact same content with little variation.
>The February drama took its toll on everyone, from the fans to the talents. As a result a lot of fans just gave up.
>Their fanbase is literally Twitter. They have a lot of followers on Twitter, even more than they do on Youtube in some cases. But it does not translate into viewership at all, let alone superchats or memberships. And again they dont make much from Merch.
There's probably more reasons but you get the idea.

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>>52080348
Let me save this pist for the inevitable grudgepost

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>>52080866
Is that your retarded cope?

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>>52080406
Where's Zaion?

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>>52080114
Owari da.

I used to feel a sense of loss over the OG girls who drove their fanbases away after the ‘success’ of the faggot waves. Now all I feel is a sharp, bitter schadenfreude.

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>>52081097
She went first in lolisex so she probably got 61k during her debut

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>>52080348
Why are you setting you up to failure anon, don't you have enought IRL? anyway as the other, saved for grudge posting.

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>>52080348
I wish EN falls apart because the entire community sucks. They deserve it and so does niji

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>>52081097
50k

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>>52081221
Aqua wouldn't like you talking about Mori like this. She worked up her limited courage to shake her hand, you know.

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Riku won't dump 100k bot views for debuts anymore. He's just waiting for the next big thing to grift onto or a sucker to buy Kurosanji from him.

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>>52080429
>imagine being at the peak of your popularity and your decide to debut aia
FUCKING SAVAGE.

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>>52078195
dude it's been hard confirmed nijisanji bots, do you seriously think luxium got 80k on their outfit reveals and immediately returned to 3-5k the next day? those numbers do not add up, they are indisputably botting and anyone who denies it is either stupid or just coping

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>>52081038
Sis, where'd they all go...?

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>>52081009
>>The February drama took its toll on everyone,
it all started back in December when Yugo got terminated(No, we don't call lthat shit graduation here)
them they also got 3D AR Live cancellation and branch wide breaks which majority of them being the males,

So alot of drama and downtime causing more and more sisters to dropout, sadly that shit affected even the girls cause some of the fujo audience bled to the girls, but even alot of those left the fanbase

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>>52078195
Obsydia's outfit reveal had more than that

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>>52081038
newfag

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>>52081597
Will never forgive business suits for ruining the AR Live and killed their momentum.

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>>52080114
Anycolor wanted to go for more organic‐looking numbers this time so the eventual drop-off wouldn't look apocalyptic.

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>>52080114
Does Hololive reach those numbers on debuts?

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>>52080348
Nijiseethe

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>>52082081
how new are you to vtubing

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>>52082002
I never forgive them to announce it in the first place
that shit was literally my cyberpunk 2077 of vtubing
a promise that couldn't be kept leading to pure disappointment for everyone

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>>52081597
I don't remember if Yugo necessarily had a huge impact on the branch since Anycolor's dirty laundry wasn't shown off yet. But yeah, cancelling AR Fes pretty much a week after they unveiled it ruined everything, especially since half the branch was MIA around that time just fucking around in Japan. Then that was followed up by Zaion being terminated, tarred and feathered, and the ugly side of the fanbase was fully shown off where they doxxed and harassed the fuck of her. Even the talents to an extent showed how ugly they can be with Ren being the only mature adult in the room that tried to get people to stop.
The final nails in the coffin were the Zaion doc leak, the 2% merch rumors being confirmed, and this new wave being leaked with an amazing degree of accuracy.

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>>52082081
idk it's been like 2 years since Council and so many premises have changed that you can't make any meaningful comparison out of those anymore

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>>52082562
I feel because it has been so long, people would flock hard to an EN3, but at the same time it would be the Half-life 3 dilemma, the third gen would never fulfill the hype created by being the newest gen after almost 2 years since council

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>>52082081
EN? Vrabi doesn't go back that far and Playboard won't show the stats. Hololive in general? Koyori doubled Ren's debut numbers, including his Z

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>>52082801
They'll have to address it eventually since Tempus 2 was unwanted even by the fans. Its good that they at least put out that statement holding they were recruiting new talents, because delaying it would've made the situation worse.

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>>52082801
She can just chow or pung and let the game continue and no one would fault her for that.

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>>52078195
Niji went to shit after wave2… this is just killing the brand.

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>>52082081

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>>52082081
Kronii and IRyS had 91k on debut

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>>52083739
Mio....

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>>52083739
The early gens really did build the brand from 2view-3view to 4view and now all the way up to 6view debuts
It must be quite the whirlwind journey for them kek

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>>52078195
Low 3views in 2 months at best.

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>>52078195
I hope you don't think debut streams actually mean anything for the small chance you're not trolling and actually are some retarded sister.

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Weird how he'll probably have an audience of like 500 people in 2 months huh.

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>>52083739
Looking at this, it's clear Coco was the reason for Hololive's explosion. That's a pretty incredible gap between JP4 and JP5.

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>>52080149
Because there’s a big difference in showing up to a debut stream where everyone’s paying attention and showing up every stream later when no one’s watching.
It’s like why the Salvation Army gets way more donations around Christmas even though you can donate to them anytime. I’m not even saying it *has* to be virtue signaling. Just that it’s easier to just fall off and not do it once the novelty’s worn off…AND a lot of it’s virtue signaling too

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>>52084218
Coco never actually went viral, at least nowhere near Fubuki, Miko, Pekora, Korone level of viral

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>>52084218
or maybe the worldwide pandemic that happened during that time, retard

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>numbers this, numbers that, numbers blah
The only reason niji and hololive get excellent numbers at debut, is because of all the JP viewers.

They instantly bleed all those JP viewers because they don't speak English. The boost provided by JP viewers and subscribers (dead subs essentially), spread the algorithm to more English viewers than normal though, hence their dominance over purely EN corpos.

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>>52080114
KEKW

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>>52084474
Nijisanji has no japanese audience

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>>52078195
feel what you're feeling now? Hold onto that number high you're having, it wont last a week. I do hope they are successful so they can at least pay off their debut debt faster.

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>>52084474
Koyo had 180k ccv on her debut and was down to 3-4k after a few weeks. Yeah now she is 10k ccv chuuba but same shit happens to the JPs too

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>>52084345
coco didnt go viral but she did sink her hooks into those who were brought in by the others.
and because asacoco featured multiple of them, it made getting familiarized easier and got people interested beyond the viral stuff, at least at the start since once the momentum was built up, it grew on its own regardless of coco's influence.
that plus the pandemic beginning around the same time.

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>>52083739
Has it really been that long...holy shit... For some reason HoloX feels like not even a year ago to me.

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>>52082531
Yugo (and Axia 'graduating' the exact same way exactly 7 days before him) planted the seeds of doubt. Without those two most people would've looked over at AR cancellation, but the animosity from both things brewed up

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>>52085268
damn guess im not japanese anymore

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>>52083739
Towa had the biggest debut of her gen

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>>52078195
It's a debut stream you moron, of course it's gonna have a lot of people watching. Not that it matters anyway, he's gonna struggle to have over 1k viewers in around 2 weeks, maybe 3 if he's lucky,

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>>52087355
Sorry anon, but you know the rules, YWNBJ

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>>52089163
Debut stream is 20k less than the Lolisex's debuts btw.

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>>52085369
JP chuubas bleed some % of the JP audience that shows up for debut, as opposed to EN chuubas which bleed nearly 100% of that audience because of the language barrier.

That said >>52080114 is still a pretty damning indictment of NijiEN's trajectory as a whole.