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Unironically what went so right with male vtubers?

>> No.51978764

Male vtubers are not made for bondage

>> No.51978847

>2022
Milord fujo, it's time to let go.

>> No.51978862

What about this year?

>> No.51979249

>>51978862
The year isn't even halfway done yet. This was compiled at the beginning of 2023 after 2022 was over. You'll have to wait til 2024.

>> No.51979351

>>51978459
They give women what they want.
And apparently they want rape ASMR.

>> No.51979362

>>51979249
This is the cope the nijisis are using because they know the Luxiem numbers got so bad in 2023

>> No.51979423

>>51979362
good thing i dont give a shit about luxiem and only watch nijijp males who are actual good vtubers and not just fujobait. luxiem wont be there but a lot of jp men will

>> No.51979454

>>51979362
>>51979362
Its not just Luxiem numbers, but the entire branch. The irony of the whole situation is that the first 2 waves of female talents ended up having more stable and consistent numbers long term than all of the male talents.

>> No.51979654

You want a real answer?

There's been a huge gap in the entertainment market for content aimed at modern women. I am talking quantity, quality, diversity and everything else under the umbrella.

This stems from how back in the day, women weren't able to make their own money as they were denied education and independence. Therefore the majority of marketing was aimed towards men because men were the ones who had disposable income. Of course some things were marketed to women too, but mostly either whatever was bare miniumum to keep them satisficed with the status quo, or things that would improve a woman's standings with her man (perfumes, fashions, etc).

Now, the world has changed quite a bit since then, and over the last 10-ish years there's been a sharp demand in things that appeal to women. More and more women are experiencing independence and have disposable income, but do not have nearly the same quantity of things to choose from like men have.

This is reflected in vtubing as well. The majority of idol-fans and vtuber fans were primarily male because that's what the industry marketed itself for. However, there was an interest coming from women that was being left unmet, so when Luxiem debuted there was very clear, solid evidence that women were also part of the market.

Essentially, imagine growing an oasis in the middle of a desert. You are going to see activity pretty quickly. Male vtubers went right because they decided to explore a previously unmet market, and now that market is stabilizing because there's more content to pick from. So yeah, Luxiem will not be the kings forever as more and more male vtubers debut, but this isn't necessarily a negative for male vtubing as a whole.

tl;dr: pander to women and they will repay you.

>> No.51980037

>>51978459
Hot men sell, and women can't survive only out of fanfics and genshin characters

>> No.51980191
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>>51979362
I will screencap this post for when you're wrong.

>> No.51980268

>>51978459
>Nijinig with sc cope
Not only you losing 65%, you only gain 2% from generic merch sale.

>> No.51980363

>>51979654
I don't drastically disagree with you, but it's factually incorrect. Marketing for household shit has always been aimed at women, even when they weren't allowed to use credit cards, because women still made the purchasing decisions in a nuclear family. Even in the 1960s, travel ads were all aimed at women because women made 70% of a household's traveling decisions. Overall I think your point isn't wrong, but there's no real strong "back in my day" argument to be made there.

>> No.51980461

>>51978459
Female vtubers appeal to men who can't satify women, male vtubers appeal to women who aren't satisfied by men. One has more disposable income.

>> No.51980624

>>51980191
Feel free to screencap this one too, but I'll be very surprised if they're over $400k this year as well. The drop off in their audience has simply been that severe and on top of that they've not been streaming nearly as much as they used to. Of course a lot can happen in 6 months and they could incline again, but Nijisanji will further split the audience by providing yet more male chuubas to pick from.

>> No.51980763

>>51980461
THIS IS THE ONLY RIGHT ANSWER

>> No.51981752

>>51978459
>2022
>SCs
fujo moment

>> No.51981861

>>51981752
>you now remember Coco and Rushia being the top superchatted

>> No.51982215

>>51978862
Luxiem was the Myth of male EN vtubers where they got huge because they were something completely new. The numbers for Luxiem in the first year were absolutely impressive but were not sustainable. To be fair that was true for Myth that could occasionally get over 50k in superchats during their early celebration streams.

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>>51978459
>m-m-muh SCs!!!
the only cope the sisters have left. Male Vtubers are the equivalent of degenerate inflation furry artists. A small niche no one cares about except for a few wealthy patrons looking to satisfy their mentally ill fetish. Outside of that they have nothing. No views, shit merch sales, no relevancy in the mainstream.
Also keep in mind that they are a small minority compared to the girls. I'm pretty sure that if you were to compare the overall SC for every female Vtuber vs males Vtuber the girls would absolutely dominate.

>> No.51982388

>>51978459
Women

>> No.51982972

>>51982313
Never miss the incel loser failure seething at something simply for existing.
Genetic dead ends like you should stfu and rot quickly in your mom's basement.

>> No.51983334

>>51981861
yeah and it was a fraction of what the company makes through merch

>> No.51983819

>>51978459
Unironically?
Nothing

>> No.51983990

>>51982972
If these “incels” and people that dislike or distrust male vtubers really were a minority, then by all accounts companies like Manjisanji EN should be on top of the world still. But they aren’t, in fact they all went back to falling behind their JP senpais.

>> No.51985310

2% of that might just about leave him with as much as he'd get on britbong social welfare

>> No.51985540

>>51980363
>the entertainment market

>> No.51985767

>>51982972
Hello sister :
https://files.catbox.moe/7krvsa.png

>> No.51985768

>>51979362
>Chloe Jan-May 2023: $223,587
>Vox Jan-May 2023: $253,818
S-sis... I don't feel so good...

>> No.51985842

>>51978459
Harnessing pure kino

>> No.51986949

>>51985540
>travelling isn't entertainment
Are you retarded? If anything, travelling is some of the things that people spends the most when it comes down to entertainment, to the point that entire countries can live off this segment of the market as their major income.

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>>51978459
Males are inclining!

>> No.51988393

>>51987844
yikes

>> No.51992552

>>51978459
Short attention span of chink fujo. Here now, it had it's time, now let it die, don't drag it more than this it's becoming sadder and sadder as time go on and have all males Vtuber graduate.

>> No.51992642

>>51978459
>nobody from Tempus on the chart
You love to see it

>> No.51992697

>>51978459
It's not about being male, it's about doing coomer content.
None of the women in that list really do coomer ASMR like Nox do, cuz if they did they would be making double the money they normally do.

>> No.51992817

>>51979249
So that gives you the rest of the year to enjoy before you an hero. Live it to the fullest.

>> No.51993052

tapping into a virtually untapped market, that's it
but now they're on a heavy recline because women can't stick to anything for more than six months

>> No.51993065

>>51992697
Oh yeah, I forgot another big factor. Nijisanji isn't hated in China. You know, one of the biggest countries and with the most concentration of weebs retarded enough to give money to vtubers. Holos don't get anything from chinks.
>inb4 Holofag cope or whatever
I'm just a smartass who likes to post facts that faggots prefer to ignore. Though I do also hate male vtubers.

>> No.51993379

>>51978459
women have a habit of wasting money on useless shit

>> No.51993522

>>51978459
that they declined hard and went into irrelevancy.

>> No.51994205

>>51978459
>Lamy 6th
what happened to the GFE meta?

>> No.51999572

>>51993065
Dumbass, Hololive is still loved in mainland China. Arguably more than Nijisanji actually. They just have no official business there because of the whole bilibili drama.

>> No.51999934
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>>51985768
Didn’t Playboard count the donations for his charity stream as superchats meaning every dollar from these 2 streams was not for him it was for charity. The man has very publicly talked about his numbers going down.

>> No.52005348

>>51978459
wait Iroha?! never expected her to be some gachi magnet

>> No.52008542

>>51979423
>i dont give a shit about luxiem and only watch nijijp males
Based anon, me too. It kinda sucks how there's a lot of people who think male vtubers = luxiem these days.

>> No.52010718

>>52005348
>gachi magnet
She isn't as strong as she seems there. The reason she's so high up is the same reason why OP is a coping retard: Holos' main income comes from merch, and HoloX, being the newest gen, therefore the ones with the least amount of merch on the market, dominates secondary sources of income like SC. It's the reason why even Bettel beats many holos in SC, fans have literally not much else to spend money on.

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