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*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://www.hololive-songs.com/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber
>https://www.nijiuta.com/

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

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>>51855657
ah already taking advantage of her graduation for pity points even though they did nothing to defend her from the baseball autists
as expected from nijisanji

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>Finigger has 1.8k for a birthday
Holy GRIM

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* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *

>97,059: Gundou (Nijisanji)
>80,310: Akari (VSPO)
>47,344: Tsukasa Tenkai (Indie)
>44,596: Gura (Hololive)
>43,183: Miko (Hololive)
>36,553: Pekora (Hololive)
>36,128: Watame (Hololive)
>29,231: Pekora (Hololive)
>27,943: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>25,848: Korone (Hololive)
>19,064: VOLTACTION (Nijisanji)
>18,924: Noel (Hololive)
>17,619: Reid (Neo-Porte)
>16,598: Nene (Hololive)
>16,407: Tsuna (VSPO)
>14,183: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>12,500: Met (VSPO)
>11,620: Laplus (Hololive)
>11,204: Koyori (Hololive)

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>>51855810
>>51855446
nijiCN has reclined into the dark pits of obscurity and irrelevancy. 80k box? More like 80k bots. It seems the sisters have run out of bot money and it's showing. The only thing they have left is pissing all over the numbers thread and even then that won't change the fact that their bargain bin liver organs are so washed that not even the zhangs will give them the time of day. How sad. How unfortunate.

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>>51855846
Sorry baseballfags too mean!

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>>51855846
>he didn't watch the clip
>still tried to start shit
>thinking anyone cares enough about Kanda to reply seriously

[Anonymous No.]

The reason God favours Hololive so much is because he thinks girls shouldn't collab with boys on stream either

[Anonymous No.]

When will Miko play GTA 4 or GTA San Andreas now that they have the permissions for older GTA games?

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>>51855873
>JUNE 2023 GOLDS
1) Aki (Hololive) - 76,042 - Anniversary 3D Live
2) Beni (VSPO) - 74,883 - 3D Debut
3) Chiroru (Indie) - 55,592 - Hanshin Tigers vs Chiba Lotte Marines Watchalong
4) Marine (Hololive) - 36,348 - Pyschological Drawing Test
5) Aqua (Hololive) - 66,563 - Apex
6) Watame (Hololive) - 84,756 - Birthday 3D Live
7) Pekora (Hololive) - 38,203 - Old Coin Pusher Friends (w/ Okayu, Noel, Polka)
8) Suisei (Hololive) - 57,303 - Hairstyle Reveal
9) Hinano (VSPO) - 87,282 - 3D Debut
10) Aqua (Hololive) - 68,208 - Startend Apex
11) Lui (Hololive) - 94,286 - Birthday 3D Live
12) Pekora (Hololive) - 69,800 - Only Up
13) Tsukasa Tenkai (Indie) - 49,747 - Mahjong League
14) Pekora (Hololive) - 36,953 - Sankisei Left 4 Dead
15) Flare (Hololive) - 49,298 - 1 Million Endurance Karaoke
16) Air (Nijisanji) - 53,257 - 3D Debut
17) Qpi (VSPO) - 55,763 - 3D Debut
18) Iroha (Hololive) - 101,527 - Birthday 3D Live
19) Pekora (Hololive) - 55,917 - Clubhouse 51 (w/ Shion)
20) Suisei (Hololive) - 29,259 - Minecraft
21) Gundou (Nijisanji) - 97,059 - Graduation Stream

>PER COMPANY
14x: Hololive
3x: VSPO
2x: Indie, Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
4x: Pekora
2x: Aqua, Suisei
1x: Air, Aki, Beni, Chiroru, Flare, Gundou, Hinano, Iroha, Lui, Marine, Qpi, Tsukasa, Watame

>2023 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
130x: Hololive
26x: Nijisanji
7x: Indie
5x: VSPO
4x: Neo Porte

>PER STREAMER
46x: Pekora
15x: Miko
14x: Marine
7x: Subaru
6x: Toya
5x: Suisei
4x: Hal
3x: Aqua, Chiroru, Hololive, Iroha, Kuzuha, Mio, Okayu, Koyori, Towa
2x: Aki, Hinano, Lamy, Lui, Nerumero, Nijisanji, Salome, Watame
1x: Air, Ayame, Beni, Chloe, Choco, Flare, Fuwa, Gaku, Gura, Gundou, Hibari, Himawari, Ina, Kanata, Kanato, Kiara, Korone, Laplus, Mel, Mito, Mori, Nose, Nozomi, Polka, Ponto, Qpi, Roco, Ryushen, Shion, Tsukasa, Ui, Yashiro

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I love them

[Anonymous No.]

We love korone /here/

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>>51855446
Wtf did Mumei even do to decline?

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>>51855629
>Lulu, Gibara, Ange and Gundou were the most clipped for ENs back in early 2020
Ange...

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[Anonymous No.]

To put the thread in a more numerical mood, here is the update on a
>30 DAYS TRUE AVERAGE AND MEDIAN OF PEAKS
chart, this type for Hololive (the Japanese branch).

I genuinely expected to see a recline *this month* as the numbers "felt" lower these days with sub 30k golds but
>DAMN
they're back into an incline path and back into close to 12k with the branch inclining for almost the whole month

I'll assume it's due to Aqua (o streams this month) and Suisei (7 streams this month) being back with a more frequent activity pulling the branch up but, even then, that wouldn't explain.

The real reason is that NINETEEN (19) of the 33 active girls have a 10k+ AVERAGE (not median, true average) and that's clearly reflecting in the numbers for the branch.
It came to a point that even their "midpoint" line (the pink one), which represents the point with an equal number of days below and above that line, is also over 10k for the branch.

It looks like this massive incline AND persistent strength is getting the thread bored and in search for entertainment in other venues.

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>>51855936
based
>>51855937
cuck

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>>51855961
She reclined at the same time as kronii, so thank her

[Anonymous No.]

>>51855961
Be sick and poor content choices

[Anonymous No.]

>>51855975
falseflagger

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>>51855961
Stopped streaming regularly. Her old number was also artificially boosted by a lot of karaokes.

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>>51855646
>if I call someone mentally ill that means they are wrong
Not being 100% normal typical in brain development doesn't make one wrong. If I say 2 + 2 = 4 will you blow a gasket? No, that's because you don't associate with the number 2 emotionally. Yes Suisei doesn't like Hololive and yes she is reaching outside of Hololive. We know she wants her career to hit new heights. If I'm coming up with 4 and you're not than it's likely you have more mental illness than I.

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>>51855896
>It seems the sisters have run out of bot money
its actually more funny than that
since the crackdown during the protests in china there has been a significant reduction of chinese bot services

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OH NO OH NO OH No...

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>>51856006
>constant accusations to deflect
you are a cuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>51855961
Haachama Jr

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>>51856006
At least do what Saplings do when defending their oshi and spam images

[Anonymous No.]

>>51855869
Is her birthday today because of Gura or does it have a fish/dragon meaning

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>>51855912
>cries about gundou graduating even though they didnt say anything when she was being attacked o

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>>51855969
>The real reason is that NINETEEN (19) of the 33 active girls have a 10k+ AVERAGE
>meanwhile only one HoloEN member has that and you can barely count her as being active
Kek. But I guess after almost 2 years Cover managed to find 5 girls that'll be HoloJP-tier, right?

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>>51855896
I recognize you, you're the Tempiss faggot. Your homos reclined just as much. Remember Vesper's 4k floor?

[Anonymous No.]

>>51855969
HoloJP is just stronger than everyone else in all metrics.

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>>51856061

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damn, cunny keeps sisters and twitch fags away but I doubt it would keep a recently turned cuck away

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>>51856100
might be pretty hard i mean have you seen the current indies or small corpo debuts? literal garbage tier

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>>51855921
Doubt about it lol
Holo mem waiting from konami panchiko Inc permission for MGS3 remake

[Anonymous No.]

Even their fans are delusional...

[Anonymous No.]

>>51856036
>since the crackdown during the protests in china there has been a significant reduction of chinese bot services
Sister... Thing's aren't looking so good.

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>>51856130
Uuuu

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>>51856063
None of the Niji birthdays really have any thematic meaning they're just random days. I think with 200+ people they try to space the birthdays out as best they can.

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*FINAL EN TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN*

>6/21 DAILY TALLY
44,596: Gura (Hololive)
6,425: Kronii (Hololive)

>EN GOLDS FOR JUNE 2023
1) Baelz (Hololive) - 6,456 - Unarchived Karaoke
2) Shu (Nijisanji) - 8,671 - Mojipittan Encore (w/ Petra, Sonny, Oliver)
3) Fauna (Hololive) - 8,010 - Amanda the Adventurer
4) Kiara (Hololive) - 10,955 - 3D Switch Sports (w/ Amelia)
5) Kiara (Hololive) - 10,829 - 3D Karaoke (w/ Amelia)
6) Amelia (Hololive) - 7,060 - 3D Offcollab (w/ Kiara)
7) Mori (Hololive) - 7,791 - Karaoke + Announcement
8) Fauna (Hololive) - 10,478 - 3D ASMR
9) Fauna (Hololive) - 9,225 - Minecraft
10) Ina (Hololive) - 14,002 - Switch Sports (w/ Henya)
11) Ren (Nijisanji) - 14,314 - Unarchived Karaoke
12) Ike (Nijisanji) - 10,765 - Birthday Stream
13) Fauna (Hololive) - 10,449 - Minecraft
14) Kronii (Hololive) - 5,976 - Diablo IV
15) Roca (Idol) - 7,647 - Debut Stream
16) Fauna (Hololive) - 10,637 - Bread & Fred (w/ Kronii)
17) Mori (Hololive) - 8,412 - Getting Over It
18) Alban (Nijisanji) - 46,895 - Outfit Reveal
19) Ina (Hololive) - 9,183 - Karaoke
20) Fauna (Hololive) - 9,723 - Minecraft
21) Gura (Hololive) - 44,596 - Birthday Stream

>PER COMPANY
16x: Hololive
4x: Nijisanji
1x: Idol

>PER STREAMER
6x: Fauna
2x: Ina, Kiara, Mori
1x: Alban, Amelia, Baelz, Gura, Ike, Kronii, Ren, Roca, Shu

>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
38p: Fauna
23p: Ina
20p: Kronii
16p: Mori
13p: Amelia
10p: Kiara
6p: Baelz
5p: Alban, Gura, Ike, Ren, Roca, Shu
4p: Luca
3p: Enna, IRyS, Mysta, Nina, Poko, Uki
2p: Fulgur
1p: Magni

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>>51855969
And here is Nijisanji (the Japanese branch). Things are not as rosy, to say the least.

Last year, by this point, they were tracking on a 4.5k average
>due to Salome, Mayuzumi and Melissa graduation and the baseball season having started
This year? Hard stuck near the 3k line, having crossed it on the downrward direction for the first time just last month.
Their median, usually very stable, fell as well and crossed the 2k line on the downward direction for the first time since CCVID.

Their numbers, if not reclining, are stable and stuck on a low point of their recorded history. Based on 2022 they have a couple of weeks to turn this ship around or they risk having summer 2023 to track lower than 2022

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>>51856173

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wait is it really 9 hours until fauna? I love ASMR but thats so logn

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>>51856105
>Anon lacks the necessary information
Anonfagchama...

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>>51856200
>2023 EN GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
127x: Hololive
42x: Nijisanji
2x: Holostars
1x: Idol

>PER STREAMER
19x: Fauna
18x: Mori
14x: IRyS
12x: Baelz, Gura, Ina
11x: Kronii, Mumei
9x: Amelia, Vox
8x: Kiara
5x: Mysta
4x: Selen, Shu
3x: Pomu
2x: Alban, Finana, Ike, Luca, Ren
1x: Enna, Elira, Flayon, Fulgur, Hololive English, Luxiem, Millie, Regis, Roca, Rosemi, Sonny

>2023 POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
180p: Fauna
139p: Ina
130p: Mori
120p: IRyS
106p: Baelz
103p: Mumei
85p: Kronii
74p: Amelia, Vox
70p: Kiara
60p: Gura
56p: Mysta
47p: Luca
32p: Shu
31p: Selen
19p: Ike
17p: Pomu
15p: Enna
14p: Uki
13p: Finana
11p: Axel, Fulgur, Ren, Sonny
10p: Alban, Elira
9p: Millie
7p: Regis
6p: Rosemi
5p: Flayon, Hololive English, Luxiem, Roca
4p: Magni, Nina, Vesper
3p: Bettel, Hakka, Kotoka, Poko
1p: Maria, Meloco, Shinri, Pippa

[Anonymous No.]

>>51855961
Was particularly popular with Covid lockdown tourists, and Covid lockdowns ended. Any other answer is schizo shit.

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>>51856170
i mean the chinese vtuber market is not doing that great
probably the reason why nijisanji has begun to slowly distance themselves with less b2 stuff compared to last year

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>>51856200
Gura (?) Sweep

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>>51856273
It's not just that. She is having a rotten 2023 and didn't manage to stream regularly even for a pair of weeks

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>>51856200
>44,596: Gura (Hololive)
Gura, This is Astonishingly Based As Fuck, you know?

[Anonymous No.]

>>51856239
I'm staying up for Faufau because its only once a week at most, and she deserves it

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>>51856200
Graduate everyone with less points than Gura

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>>51856006
So, we like homocollabers now or what?

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>>51856154
They sure are. Anyway, looking forward to the next HoloEN stream in *checks schedule* a little under 3 hours. Thankfully Mel is streaming soon to save us from an homo-only timeslot.

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>>51856222
It's only going to keep getting lower as they debut more and more VTA shitters which lower the average. The latest batch are a bunch of starsJP tier flops except for one guy.

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>>51856329
Korone =/= your EN whores

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>>51856329
No. I just pretend they don't exist and keep watching my oshi

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>>51856314
Aye for me though it starts at 6am, I dunno whether to sleep or not. I'm not at all tired and it's absolutely roasting.
At least im on "holiday" so I could just stay up all night like im a younger person
>>51856329
I dunno why they're like this, constantly defending shit content and doing so by attacking other girls like this>>51856399

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>>51856273
would be weird considering lockdowns ended in 2021

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>>51856329
Personally I wish /#/ went back to actually being a thread about numbers instead of a male collab watchdog thread.

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>>51856239
I'll go to sleep, and get up later, even though I do not like ASMR and I work at 4 am. Do it for her.

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I have never watched Aia. I think I’ve heard her voice from a clip here before but I’m not sure of even that. I have watched scarle for a couple minutes because I was lied to. She’s alright I guess. I’ll be real every en vtuber is comparable to each other as streamers except Gura.
Gura>>>>>>En>>Kronii/Ame

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>>51856390
>not doing vod reps
you must be some kind of retard

[Anonymous No.]

Apparently covid lockdown is whenever their numbers started dropping.

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>>51855834
>>51855810
blessed sexhair thread

[Anonymous No.]

EN3 Announcement is in less than 7 Hours so GETTO HAIPUDO because Kino is coming.

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>>51856390
>Unironically not watching VODs around this time.

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>>51856556
balls?

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>>51856510
>>51856557
>just watch vods and don't pay attention to Cover not hiring a single new girl for HoloEN in almost 2 years
Coverdrones sure like sucking on Fagoo's balls.

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>>51856512
west ended their strict lockdown by the end of 2021where they cancelled mandatory wfh and sfh
asia had it until the middle of 2022 around august september where they cancelled mandatory wfh and sfh

[Anonymous No.]

What is even the point of corps when twitch indies can pull numbers like this?

[Anonymous No.]

The thread was unironically better with Gura seethe. Somebody please spam cunny the thread is worthless right now with these schizos

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>>51856482
Aia is exceptionally boring. Think Iofi who can speaks English slightly better and doesn't really have any weird personality quirks. Scarle is just an ADHD fever dream.

[Anonymous No.]

>It's another episode of Nijiniggers playing both sides to control the narrative

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>>51856619
>still trying to shill his small corpo garbage here
>still thinking that cover was wrong in not picking his small corpo oshi
kek

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>>51856638
Where's the twitch/youtube tally

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>>51856656
>koronecuck trying to deflect

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>>51856556
Tempus 3*

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>>51856622
Schizo parts of the west kept it going till 2022. The normal areas were done 2020

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>>51856449
>PNG
We're improving and inclining

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>>51856740
i thought euro was done around 2021 and only required the booster

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>>51856638
You see how the 5th best vtuber on the entire platform is 1k and the #1 vtuber on the entire platform is 10k? That's the reason. Twitch vtuber viewer pool is extremely fucking shallow.

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>>51856391
It will get more stable though.

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>>51856694
Now shitting on Cover being retarded means I'm a shill? Damn, that means that you can't criticize Cover for their HoloProEN stunt either. How does it feel being a homobeggar?

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>>51856638
>anny
clinging to a literal chatbot really pays huh

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>>51856638
I don't really care about corpos but Hololive is the best because it's all the same girls playing together.
Eventually you know every single one of them. How they behave, sound, some beliefs, their skills talents etc and then its
>I care now
but unironically when any of them show up for events, even if you don't really like them as much as girls you regularly watch.

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>>51856773
you already tried that angle yesterday anon

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>>51856773
Shitting on Cover doesn't make you a shill. Using the exact same verbiage as the roca jewshill does.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51856705
>Gura
>44k
They uhh... decided to skip this one day out

[Anonymous No.]

>>51856813
You got me confused for another anon, beggar.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51856770
Yeah bro look how much better YouTube is looking right now.

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>>51856773
I mean if i was a homobeggar i would actually want those indies and small corpos to go into hololive since they are on the same level of quality as tempiss and poop

[Anonymous No.]

Bae why did you take a week off Fauna is pulling away again...

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>>51856556
>XFLOPLIOUL WAS TEMPISS COUNTER PROGRAMMING.
>IFLOPLUNA WAS TEMPOOP COUNTER PROGRAMMING
>GAYMERS WILL BE EN3 COUNTER PROGRAMMING

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>>51855969
>>51856222
And here is NijiEN. The only appropriate description for this chart is
>Branch Who Thought They'd Lost All Numbers Lose Last Additional Bit Of Numbers They Didn't Even Know They Still Had

One anon put forward a theory that some segments of his chinese "sisters" audience was waiting for some landmarks to give them a "book end" and allow them to move on in peace.
Some of these milestones are visible into the chart with the most salient being Luxiem anniversary.

Somehow, after what looked like a stabilization in May, they seem to be losing some more of their audience and the question should be not why but
>how is that even possible?

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>>51856791
Neuro made a lot of people incline to another galaxy.

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>>51856848
What verbiage? That Cover hasn't hired a single new girl while hard shilling 8 failures?

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>>51856773
No but using the same line as that retard idolshill makes you one

[Anonymous No.]

I miss fauna uuuu

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>>51856759
Early 2022. The world was essentially split into I am a grown man I’ll do what I want and “trust the science.” You can argue about who ended up with the better plan in another year

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>>51855969
Is there legitimately a bigger streamer group than Hololive in the entire world? Legit question. I know there are bigger Individual streamers that can beat the top HoloJP's, and Dream's group pre face reveal could shit out 6 digit CCV streams, but is there any official streamer group bigger right now? I would hazard a guess that there might be less than a dozen even?

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>>51856932
bigger in what criteria?

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>>51856858
Pls watch Finana's BD bros....she is also from the sea you know...

[Anonymous No.]

>>51856858
There different is any time of day 10k is going to be the #1 spot and the #5 spot might be 2k instead of 1k.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51855969
I hope they beat their all time peak soon

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>>51856015
NTA, but watch Suisei more before making dumb assumptions.

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>>51856713
Bless you schizo I’m glad you’re here in our darkest hour. Call out all the cucks or post cunny just don’t repeat the same phrases with pictures

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>>51856899
This verbiage
>>/vt/?task=search&ghost=false&search_text=fagoo
>>/vt/?task=search&ghost=false&search_text=coverdrone
It amazes me that so many retards here cannot do the bare minimum to avoid signing their fucking posts.

[Anonymous No.]

man, why is so easy to spot the indie/jew shill?

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>>51856848
>Using the exact same verbiage as the roca jewshill does.
Wait the guy is still here? kek i remember him sperging out on another thread about how cover missed a huge opportunity on passing her and that other one and that they would have gotten regular 20k ccv with covers exposure

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>>51856899
If you aren't a schizo or an anti or falseflagger what's your purpose in bringing this up? Do you think it's never been discussed before? Do you have something new or interesting to add? Is it relevant to anything?

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>>51857004
>I hope they beat their all time peak soon
It's not looking like it would be possible right now, those first two weeks of January were something else, didn't they get some 7 100k+ streams in 2 weeks?

[Anonymous No.]

>>51857010
I'm pretty sure I was the first person to use Fagoo

[Anonymous No.]

If NijiEN gamers is announced to counter EN3 then how did they know that EN3 was going to be announced?

[Anonymous No.]

>>51856556
its not july yet retard

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>>51856222
So NijiID isn't taken into account?
I know it's gotten harder to distinguish them now.

>>51856391
The funny part is, the NijiID that graduated actually had a better median for the month than the new wave guy.
https://www.vstats.jp/channels/1:UC1vawzfbCnRpHT9SJ5pHlHw/overall
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJPWB2AO5C8

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>>51857010
Funniest thing is that he went mask off several times already.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51857069
Omega still has pawns inside

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>>51857052
The first person to use that was that 2view who people thought got rejected from the auditions

[Anonymous No.]

>>51857069
EN management are NijiSpies. Nijisanji knew about Connect the World which is why they tried to crash the branch to put out their own live first.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51857078
>So NijiID isn't taken into account?
Only the japanese branch for now.

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>>51856932
Niji and Holo are more or less the same, if you take big to be total "watch-hours" in a given period of time. Niji used to have a big lead but it's been steadily chipped away. Western groups might have bigger individual streamers but their rosters are too small to really compare.

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>>51856770
>>51856977
Are you pretending to be dumb? The best en vtubers are holoen and they can’t even consistently beat those numbers. It’s really just Gura alone with all her millions

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>>51857045
No purpose other than shitting on Cover's retardation until they finally announce EN3.

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>>51857052
Fagoo is definitely a little more common, but the rocafag co-opted it at some point during one of his spergouts

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>>51857121
You are talking to the same person, the "seething 2 views".
His main complaint never was "why don't you watch this particular 2 views" but "Hololive changed the vtubing world for worse, everything was better before they were dominant and they should die so the industry can thrive"

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>>51857151
kek this is the saddest part, and how that turned out

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>>51857006
I would if she streamed or was honest about her plans to leave.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51857069
Niji gamers is all male, it's completely irrelevant to EN3, different audiences. If they were gonna try to steal EN3's thunder they'd hold a female wave in reserve until it's announced.

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>>51857156
talking about it, where is the graph comparing niji and holo's watched hours?

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>>51856896
It honestly feels that Niji EN reached its peak around the time when both the Luxiem boys and the rest of the branch sub growth was at it peak and the entire branch was spamming several dozen milestone celebration streams every single week

[Anonymous No.]

>>51857121
Well I dunno who that is but if it was this post No.47205568 then it was definitely me
I've never liked him really though so I was quick to turn on him

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>>51857041
And you have proof of them saying that and not strawmen?

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>>51856966
I'd say just average CCV in general. I'm trying to think of any youtube/twitch group that's not OTV (who gets mogged by Holo anyway) and I'm drawing a blank. Don't really follow any fleshies though outside of content creators who specialize in my favorite games and/or genres and all of them are small time with I think only 2-3 off the top of my head who even has >500k subs.

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>>51857229
after all this time, you still assume their management to be smart

[Anonymous No.]

>>51857244
im retard >>47205568

[Anonymous No.]

>>51857194
So you're just spamming and trying to start timeloops, functionally identical to a shitposter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51857207
>Hololive changed the vtubing world for worse, everything was better before they were dominant and they should die so the industry can thrive
Wait? That sounds like the same retarded nijishill who keeps spouting the "Nijisanji was the reason for the vtubing golden age and they made vtubers like Kizuna Ai popular"
I wonder if its the same retard

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>>51856899
>while hard shilling 8 failures?
12
ftfy

[Anonymous No.]

>>51857097
And any reason you think this is the same person?

[Anonymous No.]

Korone is at the same level as Matsuri at this point, and I doubt it'll stop here, I expect to see her on Bar Robert before the end of the year.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51857290
Just like more than half of the posters in these threads, likely including you as well.

>>51857318
Sorry, forgot about Uproar.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51857335
This but unirininonicaly

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>>51857253
check the threads from the other day i remember him sperging for a while after people tried to ask him the basis of his criteria of his small corpo oshi

[Anonymous No.]

>>51857364
Wasn't being ironic, I 100% expect her to either do Roberu's thing, or whatever Aruran's talk show is called.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51857045
I gave him a pass to discuss whatever he wanted about vtubers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51857335
I will be expecting a 12 hour earlicking apology ASMR stream if that happens

[Anonymous No.]

Shitrys doesn't even know Hololive members, i say we shit on her like we did Kronii. This whore only joined Hololive for the FOTM buff, she probably doesn't even like idol shit.
>watched
I didnt watch it, i clicked on it because i couldn't believe my eyes.

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>>51857421
Why do you think she is being such a whore

[Anonymous No.]

>>51857290
>So you're just spamming and trying to start timeloops, functionally identical to a shitposter.
Nijifags have some kind of retarded belief

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>>51857236
It did. Wanna know one funny thing? The week of Aug 23 was the week he called Sonny mother a whore, then "apologized" by saying the equivalent of
>we westerners banter all the time, you chinese wouldn't understand

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>>51857205
No you’re just a schizo

[Anonymous No.]

>>51857443
>we

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>>51857229
>If they were gonna try to steal EN3's thunder they'd hold a female wave in reserve until it's announced.
Would it be more or less humiliating than selejo vs Gen5?

[Anonymous No.]

>>51857348
Ah so its the retarded nijienfag

[Anonymous No.]

>>51857327
Basic pattern recognition

[Anonymous No.]

Enna's too embarrassed to say "Queen of Spades"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szu6QGn_PGQ&t=8890

[Anonymous No.]

>>51857479
You faggots really just raid the thread to shill your dramawhore

[Anonymous No.]

>>51857531
not clicking

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>>51857236
Most of /#/ kinda called it when we said that the constant celebration streams were gonna bite them in the ass one day. They pretty much milked every buff they could think of dry and when someone found something with even a tinge of buff, they'd squeeze it even faster. That's not to say that isn't good. HoloJP does it all the time with minecraft and whatever FOTM there is. The only difference is that HoloJP has actual genius savant creators like Pekora and Marine who can provide endless amounts of content. Not to mention HoloJP has the box which is just a streaming cheat code at this point.

[Anonymous No.]

Is there anything worse than a small corpo chuuba? At least with indies you could argue some are diamonds in the rough but small corpos are just Walmart Holo/Niji with whores thinking they'll get Gura-level fanbases

[Anonymous No.]

>>51857543
nobody is shilling vox?

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>>51857442
Korone's last ASMR was pretty affectionate. That's probably when she figured out that she'd have to talk to males on stream. I wonder why Botan decided to opt for no training with males and Korone didn't. I know, she's the centerpiece of this shill. Despite capcom trying to ruin Hololive Korone is still their posterchild.

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>>51857496
They could probably get ok debut numbers because tourists but they'd crater to 1-2k within a couple weeks or sooner if they get more ESLs or non-standard background people.

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>>51857443
>watched the clip but not Mori's Idol cover
Based moomposter IRyS' Idol cover is almost at 600k do your reps

[Anonymous No.]

>>51857456
Isn't she supposed to be older (I genuinely have no idea)? Maybe the biologic clock started to kick in.

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>>51857629
>they'd crater to 1-2k within a couple weeks
If any of them are above 1k it would be a minor miracle.

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>>51855969
>>51856896
>pekoguraburu apr20-apr26
>superhololiveworld team pickings next day
>hololive went up after
>nijisanji went down
pekora actually put holo mindchair into nijifags ahead of goldenweek in preparation for superhololiveworld
sasuga pekora, one of the nijisanji-killers

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>>51856977
In what universe is HoloEN getting 10k every day?

[Anonymous No.]

>>51857644
Why would it need to affect streams? They're vtubers, they have complete privacy in their personal lives.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51857633
Go fuck yourself.

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>>51857379
I’m not talking about sperging I’m talking about that 20k quote because that implies an en being gura tier and also among the top 10-15 globally.

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>>51856638
Shondo's back already?

[Anonymous No.]

>>51857502
Sure, anon. I'm some random nijifag shitting on Cover for not debuting an EN3 sooner, because that's exactly what they do. Did sucking Yagoo's dick that sucking hard made you lose neurons?

[Anonymous No.]

>>51857678
Who said they were? Do you think every indie gets 10k every day other than literally only 1 person on twitch being able to do that, sometimes depending on her content?

[Anonymous No.]

>>51857706
rimjobchama...

[Anonymous No.]

>>51857457
Homobegging faggot

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>>51857479
Didnt also help that the chinese version of falseyed couldnt explain cultural differences and instead fanned the flame higher

[Anonymous No.]

>>51857443
watch the clip titlereader, she knows about Aqua but wants a proper maid.

Kiara forgetting Kanata was an angel was worse.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51857747
Beggarchama...

[Anonymous No.]

>>51857705
She didn't get banned from twitch just twitter.

[Anonymous No.]

>HOLOLIVE TERRITORY
>HOLOLIVE COLONY

[Anonymous No.]

Fauna frame up

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>>51857773
Stop making excuses for the goblin. She is an embarrassment to the Hololive name.

[Anonymous No.]

im angry

[Anonymous No.]

>>51857742
>There different is any time of day 10k is going to be the #1
What did he mean by this?

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>>51857598

[Anonymous No.]

If you guys wanna know what the biggest Twitter vs Streaming numbers disparity looks like, look at this male vtuber Shoto, he puts Vox or Niji disparity to shame
His twitter interactions would make you believe he is the biggest vtuber on the planet

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>>51856896
They stopped the bleeding in March, or so I thought. It's a slow seep now. An amazing rise though.
>>51857479
I will never get why the mother joke was so poorly received. My and my buddies used to joke around like that. What got your ass kicked is saying you wanted to fuck someone's mom, that's the sort of thing that gets someone's fist aimed at the back of your skull.

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Oh shit it is rimjob anon why am i not surprised he's the one trying to shill the fotm indie and small corpo chuuba here

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>>51857830

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPq2KIDW-Pg

[Anonymous No.]

https://twitter.com/NIJISANJI_World/status/1671533439705845760

Cryptic-tweet obviously preparing for new wave announcement. Probably debuting this weekend or the next.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51857916
I feel the way the thread feels so everyone has to eat it with me

[Anonymous No.]

>>51857920
We know. We're just wondering if they're gonna be 20k champs or 500 chumps.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51857919
>8hours
Guess I'll take a nap

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>>51857920
New laughing stock for the thread incoming

[Anonymous No.]

>>51857920
yeah, we know
https://www.reddit.com/r/Nijisanji/comments/14faa74/here_we_goes_again/
The r3ddit isn't happy about it.

[Anonymous No.]

Why did mods ban pekomiko schizo but not this fag spamming on cd

[Anonymous No.]

the blue raccoon from Idol had an ad that presented her as Italian, with Funiculi, Funicula as the music.

maybe they did rip off Phase.

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>>51857879
shxto fanabse is twitter central anon

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>>51857920
what did xsolul peak at? 60k?

[Anonymous No.]

>>51857920
Thanks!

[Anonymous No.]

>>51857879
It's bots + bought exposure. Common twitter shit.

[Anonymous No.]

Fauna stream?!

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>>51857983
rimjob anon is probably the indi/small corpoe janny

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>>51857983
Are you talking about me? Im not posting on cd but you said it was a fag so

[Anonymous No.]

Why yes I will be patiently waiting for Fauna's ASMR stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51857991
she acted like discount tenma

[Anonymous No.]

>>51858115
this but whatever the opposite of patiently is

[Anonymous No.]

>>51857890
My personal rrat? Either an inside job by Bili2 again akin to what happened with Holo and Asoul (but then you have to wonder where their Luxiem replacement is) or some legitamately butthurt 50 cent bug who didn't like that some "white dudes" we're siphoning money from the motherland via the fujos.

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>>51858040
I don’t care about them I’m talking about the faggot literally posting something every minute to minute and a half.

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>>51857920
Raspberry tally has been looking really thin lately. I'm glad Niji is releasing more shitters for our enjoyment.

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>>51857890
>My and my buddies used to joke around like that.
You don't do that in front of his crush, that's for sure.
When you are around your buddies and there are girls they might be interested the usual thing to do is to try to build your buddies up, not to tear them down in front of the chicks

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>>51858161
thats rimjob anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>51858148
Impatiently?

[Anonymous No.]

uuuuuuuuuu schedule
https://twitter.com/ceresfauna/status/1671625012242165760

[Anonymous No.]

>>51857890
In China insulting someone's mom is like saying cunt in public

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>>51857236
Nijisanji has a habit of hitting it big purely on social experiments. Salome is a good example of this but NijiEN is not far off from it.
There were so many members who joined all around the same exact period that this is what the year would look like:
>Bday
>Bday
>Bday
>XXX milestone!
>Bday
>XXX milestone!
>XXX milestone!
>Half year anniversary
>XXX milestone!
>bday
>bday
>XXX milestone!
It was literally this the entire fucking year, and because they're all a bunch of fucking gigalosers who spend all their life terminally online, there was never a moment where they weren't around collabing and joining these milestone streams. Essentially, viewers were throwing them money and subs, and they would continuously celebrate it in this perfect loop that would never end, hence the "social experiment"

But at some point it has to stop and there IS a market cap. They relied so much and so heavily on the CN audience that by the time they left them, NijiEN had nothing to show for anymore.

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>>51858201
it was only a matter of time before the new climbing game autism got her

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>>51857901
I told you! See >>51857207. It's the "seething 2 views"

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>>51858201

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>>51857920
Why do I feel like I'm having a déjà vu?

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>>51858201
Imagine board. Post image.

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>>51858211
>is like saying cunt in public
in the US

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>>51858169
>He thing being a shitter is enough to threaten the KING Axel
Lol that take SKILLS, one does not simply get less viewer than Axel

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>>51858234
luv me 7AM Fauna ASMR streams for my commute

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>>51858152
It was literally the second option you said.
Im surprised people forgot that drama from b2 vtubers last year when it was revealed that someone who leeched and streamed with luxiem got exposed as someone who was connected to their white wolf anti group

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>>51858201
Solid schedule

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>>51858186
like everything encompassing china what's the tone and version that the dramafag on b2 that ran with the story served his audience? and when someone find free clickbait that can't really rebuke everyone will jump in to get a slice of the pie

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>Horse girl allegations
I thought horse girls just liked horses, do they like horse cock?

[Anonymous No.]

>>51858201
Wow thanks Pekora now everyone gonna stream Only Up

[Anonymous No.]

>>51858234
Uuuu I love her

[Anonymous No.]

Someone wanna tell me where all the viewers went?

[Anonymous No.]

>>51858313
She went out with twapp, so yes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51858245
uh shadynecro twitter account?

[Anonymous No.]

>>51858185
Again it’s not i mean literally 59 seconds to a 1.5 minutes if a picture is added

[Anonymous No.]

>>51858376
For me as a man it's understandable because I idolise the penis
https://files.catbox.moe/e9qm9w.png

[Anonymous No.]

>>51858271
But did he ever beat the Emperor or the Empress on the same day?

>>51858364
Kek, it only gets worse.

[Anonymous No.]

>still no twitch tally
OMG

[Anonymous No.]

>>51855969
>>51856222
>>51856896
And here is HoloEN. Like for NijiEN, there is not a lot that can be said with the only adjective for it being
>GRIM
HoloEN touched their all time low the day before Gura birthday and climbed down the 5k line for the first time ever.

Anons complained and yes, it is a matter of having two of their best performers (Gura and Mumei) effectlvely benched for health or other reasons, and having half the branch (Ina, Ame, Kiara and Bae) making poor choices of content but, even then, that's not enough explanation or, at least, not a satisfactory one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51858376
tortellini has claimed nearly all of council

kronii, you have to save them

[Anonymous No.]

FAUNA ASMR IS OIL THEMED
IM GETTING JERKED OFF TONIGHT BROSSSSSSS

[Anonymous No.]

>>51858526
>that's not enough explanation or, at least, not a satisfactory one.
How so? it kinda make sense to me

[Anonymous No.]

>>51858526
Median is recovering. Average is being pulled down due to the usual suspects

[Anonymous No.]

>>51857954
I respect irys more after finding out mori was using bots to increase her idol view

[Anonymous No.]

>>51858514
wanna bet that he's gonna resume tomorrow and conveniently ignore today?

[Anonymous No.]

>>51858441
The bloke who did this just grafted the penis on a fully female form because, to the best of my anatomy knowledge, penises don't come out of "mons pubis"

[Anonymous No.]

>>51858526
HoloEN used to compete with HoloJP. It's hard to believe. They need a shot in the arm and for the roster to be healthy.

[Anonymous No.]

This thread is infested with vermin

[Anonymous No.]

>>51858526
i always love the part when they keep a similar sinusoid to holoJP untill tempus debut, but crash like twitter/reddit growth afterwards. curious.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51858574
Ear licking doko?

[Anonymous No.]

>>51858526
The effects Tempus have had on HoloEN's health will never be able to be fully fixed. Omega killed an entire branch for xis delusions.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51858526
>JP: UP UP UP HIGH HIGHER HIGHEST EVER
>EN: DOWN DOWN DOWN LOW LOWER LOWEST EVER
I just summarize these chart for you guys

[Anonymous No.]

>>51858526
You can see the exact moment where a new gen would've helped them, but I guess not allowing Anycolor to "dominate" the western male vtuber market was much more important.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51858526
I mean at the end of the day anon, no amount of what Fauna or someone else does will ever be able to offset near 20 hours straight of Kiara being sub 3k. There's only so many hours they can put in with decent averages, and Kiara will inevitably blow it up.
Also Ina going 3 weeks playing botw nonstop and doing the same thing. 7 hours a day at 6k is just awful for averages in a branch

[Anonymous No.]

>>51858621
It’s because faggot jannies will ban everything else as spam or advertisements but not this

[Anonymous No.]

Not even EN3 is going to save the ever-declining EN Vtuber industry

[Anonymous No.]

>>51858584
>How so? it kinda make sense to me
Poor choice of content alone wouldn't explain a almost a full year of recline.
There are other factors involved, among them lack of motivation, lack of incentives and clear goals set by the leadership and, IMO the most important, constant attrition of the long term audience

[Anonymous No.]

>>51858640
I mean its not a surprising outcome when you focus everything on jp and neglect en

[Anonymous No.]

>>51858671
Which is why average is silly, the median has been slightly steady upwards since April

[Anonymous No.]

https://youtu.be/skn9U0L-Tl0
Karubi my beloved

[Anonymous No.]

>>51858671
Absolute retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>51858615
it being on a fully female form is my justification for wanting to suck and be bukake'd

[Anonymous No.]

>>51858234
Absolute dogshit schedule. Not surprising. Imagine wasting no overlap week on a fucking barbie game and fucking sonic adventure

[Anonymous No.]

>>51858736
No, that's actually a sensible post explaining why the downward trend has continued.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51858526
Curious, Can you do ID?
>>51858704
>Poor choice of content alone wouldn't explain a almost a full year of recline.
It actually can if you factor in that there are only 9 people in that branch and half of whom are out of comission most of the time
If there were let say 35 members id agree but with that few people its not surprising

[Anonymous No.]

>>51858704
>>51858584
Homobegging faggots

[Anonymous No.]

>Homostar appears on enemy team in Valorant
>Writes a massive wall of text to her members explaining her meeting with her manager over it and its outcomes and what she'll do in future to avoid betraying the trust of her fans
Nene is the exemplar of what a Holo should be

[Anonymous No.]

>>51858749
You sir, are a vagina face

[Anonymous No.]

>>51858671
Kiara's floor and ceiling are not very different. She can barely get 4k with Minecraft now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51858671
Dude most of them can't even get 10k with games like Minecraft anymore it's not just a Zelda thing. The audience is clearly shrinking if they can't get what they did a year ago even with buff content.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51858749
This may be hard to believe, but she probably doesn't care about min-maxing her numbers like this thread does

[Anonymous No.]

>>51858736 (me)
Replied to the wrong post
>>51858749

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>>51858785

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>>51858201
UUUUUUUUUUUUUU such consistent schedules.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51858710
You think if Yagoo cut a blank check to Gura she'd actually stream? You're delusional. EN is full of lazy whores they wouldn't want to work like the JPs even if they had the chance to hit the 3D studio every single week. Even Kiara is extremely slack compared to Miko, Koyori and Pekora.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51858858
Has Fauna ever gotten off to art of her in a cowkini?

[Anonymous No.]

>>51858819
current minecraft is a buff? i thought anon said that it wasnt since nobody is doing nothing new and that includes jp

[Anonymous No.]

>>51858785
alright i'm gonna need proof of this

[Anonymous No.]

>>51858900
ask her

[Anonymous No.]

>>51858376
Are there any ENs Towa didn't fuck? Gura maybe?

[Anonymous No.]

>>51858785
isreal?

[Anonymous No.]

>>51858245
>>51858391
is it the
>new boys new boys new boys
comment on homoen announcement?

[Anonymous No.]

More popular than all of Tempus. Kneel. I think he's the biggest Brazilian vtuber too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51858785
I would kneel and kiss the unicorn shoe

[Anonymous No.]

>>51858770
2.7-3k average and he says a 7k average is doing the heavy lifting. Absolute retard. This is not even counting that exactly one year ago she could get 5k with windwaker which is near impossible no matter the game for her now. Obvious homobeggar. Same flip flopping schizo faggot thats spamming

[Anonymous No.]

>>51858892
I mean why would you want to stream when most of the opportunities are given to the jp members while you get little to no support not even a professional studio in your country

[Anonymous No.]

>>51858901
It's tourist content, it's always a buff. It's not just Minecraft though, blaming content choices like Zelda is dumb when even collabs with multiple members hover around the 10k mark (or lower if it's on Kiara's channel).

[Anonymous No.]

>>51858526
hm I wonder if something happened July 17, 2022...

[Anonymous No.]

>>51858892
You outed yourself as a homobeggar the other day, rope yourself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51858785
So who is more schizo about faggots? Kanata or nene?

[Anonymous No.]

>>51858905
>>51858941
>>51858970
Check yesterday archives

[Anonymous No.]

>>51858900
There's a lot of art of her getting railed or fucking the other EN girls in the cowkini but I can't post it. So yeah, almost certainly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51858847
I’ve never seen an actual retard try to steal my post

[Anonymous No.]

>>51858712
>the median has been slightly steady upwards since April
Definitely not true. Their median hit a career low of 5816 on April 13, and right now it is at 6234 (+418), having peaked in the period at 6809 on May 13.
It was upwards until May 13 and is down from that point.

That doesn't make much difference given that
>The current number is below the CCVID low which was 6474

[Anonymous No.]

>>51858819
???? Anon? Even JP is struggling with MC. The buff of it has worn off almost entirely.
Pekora had 2 sub 30k minecraft streams. In fact, her nintendo direct watchalong almost had more viewers than both minecraft streams…
It’s just not the “it” thing right now. Only Ina has shown considerable decline and, wow, guess what, she’s the one who spent an entire month playing botw that no one wanted to watch

[Anonymous No.]

>>51858892
Once again beggars proving that they're the biggest Hololive antis out there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51858960
how would HoloBR/PT do?

[Anonymous No.]

>>51858900

[Anonymous No.]

>>51859038
She just posted another members post 2 hours ago, which is longer and talks about her meeting with her manager.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51858992
>It's tourist content, it's always a buff
not really since its getting subpar numbers even for jp like pekora since theres nothing going on

[Anonymous No.]

>>51858704
>Poor choice of content alone wouldn't explain a almost a full year of recline.
A full year of poor decisions/content or having your heavy hitters gone would. Without even touching the first part, Gura has been semi dead to outright dead the whole time, Ina went through various breaks until the actual health break and came back to do Pokemon, mostly solo Minecraft and Zelda, etc.
Not really anything to add, though. Same as ever we just need either EN3 or whatever is holding all these girls back to let them go and just fucking stream again, preferably both.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51858973
He literally says that no amount of Fauna streams will change anything. This is literally what you're saying. Why are you seething when you're in a agreement

[Anonymous No.]

You faggots report the fun schizos and leave the retards trying to astroturf while arguing with themselves.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51859135
Miko get shit number too, only slightly better than Pekora

[Anonymous No.]

>>51858785
on one hand I think that's excessive and didn't really need an apology but on the other hand I love submissive girls that will do naked dogeza before even being reprimanded

[Anonymous No.]

Are MC fans still mad about that chat moderation update?

[Anonymous No.]

>>51859029
>>51859105
>ur a homobeggar
Extremely ironic accusation given the reason EN is in the shitter because it's filled to the brim with homoniggers like Mori and Kronii

[Anonymous No.]

>>51859018
yeah, the girls started becoming lazy, if it wasn't for our Tempus boys the graph would look even grimmer

[Anonymous No.]

>>51859106
There is no BR/PT, the language is mutually intelligible but having a continental chuuba for the Brazilian market, or a BR one for the european market would be even more foreign sounding than an aussie chuuba for the north american market

[Anonymous No.]

>>51859129

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>>51859191
Lol no they are more mad about the update being filler again

[Anonymous No.]

>>51858733
man, Korone's actually improving so fast, I'm proud of her

How's Botan doing?

[Anonymous No.]

>>51859066
I'm not saying it's much of anything, but the trend is up

[Anonymous No.]

>>51859163
1 it’s a stupid statement since her numbers are literally slightly less pitiful. 2 I’m not held accountable for how you choose to read my post I’m very measured it’s the internet

[Anonymous No.]

>>51859212
It's the day Tempiss got announced retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>51859106
Horribly. If for some reason Cover wants to target the region (which would be a big mistake) it's better to just hire someone bilingual for HoloEN. I think the wizard girl that debuted under Brave recently is exactly like that tho I have no idea if she's any interesting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51859191
>Are MC fans still mad about that chat moderation update?
at this point nobody cares but minecraft numbers outside hololive actually havent been the same since the mojang ban thing which was implemented last year
also doesnt help that microsoft is gonna go after minecraft mods soon

[Anonymous No.]

>>51858733
ew cuck watching groomer

[Anonymous No.]

>>51859184
She shouldn’t have to apologize. The faggot HoloStar 3view should apologize and then promptly commit seppuku. It’s that simple.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51859216
Eh there's a bunch of Spaniards on twitch with huge mexican audiences.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51857890
Well you aren’t Chinese are you. Different cultures have different taboos.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51859212
the graph would be lower with tempus in it anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>51859131
Are homos now not allowed to use matchmaking in games that holos are currently playing?

[Anonymous No.]

>>51859314
I get it. Americans are afraid of salads (taboo) and Chinese are afraid of bug spray and ant traps (it’s taboo also)

[Anonymous No.]

>>51858626
Yeah, that makes it extremely obvious what happened. The two graphs were in lockstep until that point, then you can see the EN audience fleeing to JP like rats off a sinking ship

[Anonymous No.]

>>51859314
Isn't that why it's funny how the girls are freaked out by faggots and shit?
Specifically because they're from a different culture you should be more forgiving.
But I guess chinks are bugs, and women watching vtubers was always a fad

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>>51859066
I mean, Gura is not streaming. I know it’s dumb to just say “they need streams with high peaks” but that’s literally how a median works. You can’t find yourself hitting a high midpoint if the streamer who elevates the median to begin with isn’t streaming.
Mind you, Gura for half of 2022 had a 20k median. Missing that is absolutely tremendous and will show on the graphs no matter what. If anything, it’s a fucking miracle that EN is holding on for however long they’ve had to. I’m certain if Peko/Miko both went on unannounced breaks for half the hear that holoJP would crumble down to new lows too

[Anonymous No.]

Reminder that homobeggars are the biggest holoantis, it's not even nijisisters.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51859266
she can take 3 dicks now though she still complains a lot

[Anonymous No.]

>>51859396
Get a green card

[Anonymous No.]

>>51859197
How high do you think the churn in this thread is? You spent an entire thread the other day calling the ENs lazy whores for not being able to get studio access while defending and deflecting from the homos never having that issue.
>>51643045
But keep at it, beggar.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51859308
In the same way Bae's target market is the North American one.
It makes sense for a one off but not to make a full branch of Bae / Sana targetting the wrong side of the market

[Anonymous No.]

>>51859448
>implying that 90% of homobeggars arent nijifags

[Anonymous No.]

>>51859389
Yes

[Anonymous No.]

>>51859461
kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>51859438
Gura is not streaming regularly since November 2022, it's eight months since them.
Whatever drop she would cause in the numbers would manifest right away and then, all other things being equal, it would remain stable and rise and fall with the numbers of the remaining girls

[Anonymous No.]

>>51859413
Homoslop only helps destroy long term interest in the Hololive Girl’s content. Also it makes sense to me to fuck off from EN after Tempiss, and even more after Tempoop. It’s clear that the people running EN are retarded and are purposefully missing the mark on what is actually, consistently popular and what people actually want to watch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51859511
Nene based

[Anonymous No.]

>>51859448
Are homobeggars the ones shitting on korone?

[Anonymous No.]

>>51858526
There is a massive dip at the median point between top 5 and bottom 5 of EN whenever the usual tables get posted. If you cut 2 of the top 5 off, the median falls into the bottom 5. And this is just median, which is much less affected by outliers than true average. True average is virtually worthless in context

[Anonymous No.]

>>51859558
>algorithms and human behavior
>predictable

[Anonymous No.]

My wives

[Anonymous No.]

>>51859572
B-But the twitter trannies say they love homoshit and want more!

[Anonymous No.]

>>51859665
Who the fuck is that one on the start?

[Anonymous No.]

>>51859558
Smartest poster I’ve seen in a while

>>51859601
No but the ones defending her won’t watch her.

>>51859604
Homobegging faggot

[Anonymous No.]

>>51859572
>>51859668
i mean if you hates the homos so much then why dont you start doing what the schizo jps did to their homos so they get their lesson

[Anonymous No.]

>>51859601
shut up cuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>51859696
Kiara I believe

[Anonymous No.]

>>51859558
Anon December was literally full of karaokes and then started an entire offcollab arc in Japan. It wouldn’t show in an instant because buff streams were offsetting it and Kiara was being held off from streaming because she was overseas, so she personally didn’t get her chance to ruin anything

[Anonymous No.]

>>51859604
>>51859438
Both of these points were addressed before with the
>Hololive EN + Hololive EN un-deadbeated, un-chickened, max-sharked, max-tacod (>>46625351)
It had
>Gura and Ina 2021 streams "echoed" in 2022 (repeated as is, one year down the line)
>Mori and Kiara not existing at all

It had both those issues covered
>Mori and Kiara were not part of the chart
>Gura and Ina had their regular 2021 performances repeated in 2022 for argument sake
It doesn't change the trend. It might increase the absolute number but the overall trends remains the same.

[Anonymous No.]

as long as no 40k stream from vshojo or twitch chuuba, twitch tally faggot won't create that tally right?

[Anonymous No.]

FuckirysFuckirysFuckirysFuckirysFuckirysFuckirysFuckirysFuckirysFuckirysFuckirysFuckirysFuckirysFuckirysFuckirysFuckirysFuckirysFuckirysFuckirysFuckirysFuckirysFuckirysFuckirysFuckirysFuckirysFuckirysFuckirysFuckirysFuckirysFuckirysFuckirysFuckirysFuckirysFuckirysFuckirysFuckirysFuckirysFuckirysFuckirysFuckirysFuckirysFuckirysFuckirysFuckirysFuckirysFuckirysFuckirysFuckirysFuckirysFuckirysFuckirysFuckirysFuckirysFuckirysFuckirysFuckirysFuckirysFuckirysFuckirysFuckirysFuckirysFuckirys

[Anonymous No.]

>>51859665
Kiara and Fauna leading Ina, Gura and Mumei in to the cgdct paradise. IRyS being tempted to look back like Lots Wife at Sodom, but she's still moving forward

[Anonymous No.]

>>51859779
Dont mind if i do

[Anonymous No.]

>>51859762
he'll ignore it like he ingored nijiens 40k

[Anonymous No.]

>>51859727
Go to a second world country to harass them yea that won’t put you on a list

>>51859788
>kiara

[Anonymous No.]

>>51859779
IM TRYING TOO

[Anonymous No.]

>>51859755
I'm not even sure he knows what a trendline or a slope is. You're going above and beyond here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51859668
Twitter trannies are lazy, fat, retarded faggots who can barely show up to Homocollabs at best. Their “love” is lukewarm at best. The only thing they “love” is the idea of owning the incel/unicorn. Even if they “won” and turned Holo into some shitty Niji clone it would only be a cadmean victory over the ashes of what made Hololive most appealing to the viewers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51859755
Jesas. That's as generous as you can possibly get and the line is still going down.

[Anonymous No.]

Shoto under virtualreal's mcn kek.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51859762
If you’re reading this you can ignore gura and even brag about iron mouse save me from this hell

[Anonymous No.]

>>51859755
The trend is necessarily going to be downwards, as that's the overall trend for EN vtubing, but it's far less grim and shitpost worthy, it's borderline stablised following mid December. Is there no updated graph for this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>51859755
You say that it doesn't change the trend, but the trend very clearly splits on March 9th.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51859572
tempiss collab ban early lift with that streak of collab, the management tweet that opened the door for all the hungry wolf that for almost 2 years ready to jump in and dictate the fandom with their wokeism was a cruel cocktail on a large subset of the fandom that just want some escapism coming back from work or like their neet style with their delusions. The past 10 years trained this subset to smell trouble from miles away and they just fuck off to the next entertainment avenue.
of course there are also dormant fans in hibernation awaiting for new dynamics to develop but the more time pass the less they are moved to jump back into the rabbit hole

[Anonymous No.]

>>51859762
From the looks of the thread that faggot is probably rimjob schizo and yeah he probably wouldnt the same way he ignored the nijien one since it ruins his narrative of small corpos and indies dominating

[Anonymous No.]

>>51859856
Yeah I know that but EN management listen to those twitter trannies to make major branch decisions, most likely because EN management are twitter troons themselves.

I would not be surprised in the least if nobody in EN management had the skills to properly analyze viewer data and they just decided to do the most common opinion they read on their twitter feed. EN management doesn't recognize a problem because they can't understand the metrics of the channels they're managing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51859881
shhh dont point it out since it ruins chart anons narrative
also dont point out that for the nijijp chart he didnt put all of nijijp in ther

[Anonymous No.]

The fuck?

[Anonymous No.]

>>51859877
>>51859881
>>51859976
It’s down nearly 4k from the peak and March is the month of 3 en birthdays coming a day after Bae. Homobegging faggots

[Anonymous No.]

>>51859869
Which Virtual Real? Anycolor's?

[Anonymous No.]

>>51860006
kek., I'm actually starting to like Mysta

[Anonymous No.]

>>51860020
It didn't argue that it wasn't down you mong, I argued that the echo doesn't actually follow the real trend after March 9th, which it very clearly doesn't.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51859755
>but the overall trends remains the same
Read your own graph
The middle 6 are miles away from the CCVID low mentioned in >>51859066. They are a solid 2k above the CCVID low while the full branch is somehow below the CCVID low
Comparing to the 2021-11-21 pre-CCVID you highlighted, the middle 6 are at the same point (8154 vs 8116) compared to the full branch being below by nearly 3k
2021 Summer is buffed by debuts offset by a month, each with their own post-debut buff. Unlike Nijisanji, Hololive has always enjoyed post-debut buffs

[Anonymous No.]

>>51859881
>splits on March 9th.
That would be because of the peak in March 22 2022 (helped by Ina's Elden Ring) for the regular chart being echoed all the way into March 2023.
it would follow the recline of their numbers that happened until early May and, hence, return to the same trend as the not counterfactual one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51859892
Everyone can’t he him unless you believe he bought the pass

[Anonymous No.]

>>51860006
Is this real??

[Anonymous No.]

>>51859869
whats the source of that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>51860006
he's been throwing shade at nijisanji for a while now and was supposedly one of the livers where false got his info on nijisanji from

[Anonymous No.]

>>51859973
EN management is running on a directive from HQ. HQ wants the homos to succeed and plan to use their momentum to prop up the JP stars. Cover's HQ has a doomed vision for Hololive that they have not come to terms with it not happening.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51860119
https://twitter.com/Mysta_Rias/status/1671560625783177234

[Anonymous No.]

What if Fauna started doing sexy ASMR like JP girls?

[Anonymous No.]

Whatever the trends show, I think we can all agree that holo needs to debut Tempus3 fast, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>51860100
How does it return to the same trend without deviating from the trend in the first place?

[Anonymous No.]

>>51860092
You are retarded that same trend matches the one under it they both make a M. It’s just steeper when you remove the shitters fire their birthdays. You’re dumb and blind no wonder you don’t support your homos can’t see the streams

[Anonymous No.]

>>51860099
Anon, all of that is covered at this sentence
>It might increase the absolute number but the overall trends remains the same.
The reason it remains above CCVID is because, in the counterfactual chart
>Gura and Ina never suffered from CCVID because their 2021 numbers got "echoed" in 2022
The overall trend remains the same even in the most generous reinterpretation of history possible

[Anonymous No.]

>>51860230
Nah, the closest thing to that was gura's one asmr from 2 years ago.
Either that or the cat asmr for poorfags.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51860006
>>51860119
>>51860150
>>51860183
ah according to sisters mysta is hosting it or something

[Anonymous No.]

>>51860157
Well now their slowly killing their second biggest market. I don't know how long their going to take to course correct but it is taking too long.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51860259
Everything you said implies the opposite conclusion

[Anonymous No.]

>>51860272
Last year? Also don’t engage the schizo

[Anonymous No.]

>>51860294
He is along with one liver

[Anonymous No.]

>>51860230
>>51860272(me)
Oh, "what if" im a retard
Eh i dunno, are westoids into that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>51860296
I'm not even sure they will course correct if there is nothing to salvage, probably giving EN management full autonomy. Right now their priority is on ruining their biggest market.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51859755
Looks fine to me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51860242
They gotta get all the good dudes before Niji does.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51860325
i dont know how thats gonna help but ok

[Anonymous No.]

>>51860325
liver?

[Anonymous No.]

>>51860404
no liver the slave from anycolor not the organ

[Anonymous No.]

>>51860296
Gura got over 40k yesterday and people are still acting as en market is dying. Lastly Yagoo said plenty of time they get a new gen when they feel like their ready so clearly management think EN is doing fine with their ten members.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51860242
if by debut you mean burn to the ground, yeah

[Anonymous No.]

>>51860384
>return of the random line drawer

[Anonymous No.]

>>51860316
The opposite conclusion would be "the overall trend does not remain the same" but the chart clearly does show the same trend, just with the absolute value being higher

>>51860245
>How does it return to the same trend without deviating from the trend in the first place?
The overall trend is the same. If course you can find weeks where they move in different directions but, as a whole, they move in the same direction for almost the entirety of the chart.

Also, it is a counterfactual chart and the most generous possible, completely removing Mori and Kiara, and readding streams for Ina and Gura that never happened.
That serves merely to illustrate that it is not the absence of Gura and Ina, and it is not the debuff of Kiara and Mori pulling the numbers down, it is a combination of this and other factors because these two alone wouldn't explain (as shown in the counterfactual chart)

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

I like how you fags completly forgot ame existed

[Anonymous No.]

>>51860485
She's so beautiful
>>51860527
amE isnt streaming

[Anonymous No.]

>>51856222
I can maybe answer this
Its probably due to the stealth suspensions that happened after the nijien concert was cancelled

[Anonymous No.]

>>51860380
Their biggest market is JP, which they have an iron grip at the moment. But they would rather try to expand ID rather than EN. They are risking EN on a gamble, that if they did their market research would have told them that the gamble had no chance of success.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51860445
Wow, their top performer was out for months and her return stream with music videos and a brand new animation got a little more than Miko playing SC6.

>so clearly management think EN is doing fine with their ten members.
This is probably the truth of the matter, Cover doesn't see anything wrong.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51860296
This is what we in the business call a homobegging faggot >>51860445 But it isn’t wrong all the other members are worthless pawns but Gura is a queen, arguably the strongest. As long she isn’t toppled nothing matters. I can’t abandon her though

[Anonymous No.]

>>51860602
>they have an iron grip at the moment.
They're doing their best to lose it though.

[Anonymous No.]

Mel hours
https://poal.me/5pkxa4
https://poal.me/5pkxa4
https://poal.me/5pkxa4
https://youtu.be/hO-MgujCKnM

[Anonymous No.]

>>51860445
If only Gura is capable of getting 40k on a birthday stream while barely streaming for 8 months then the market is fucking dying, coverdrone. Also keep believing on Fagoo's bullshit when he shoved 8 failures in less than 6 months who are forced to raid one another if they want to escape from 3view hell. HoloEN should've had 20 members by now and not a single homo in sight, but I guess the retard convinced himself that this time for sure he would get a male vtuber as popular as the first army members because he let Luxiem's chink "success" live rent free inside his head.

[Anonymous No.]

>See gura VODS, almost 500k in 20 hours
>See Nintendo Direct VODS who has over 500k CCV, still below 100k after 4 hours
Is this some Neal fuckery on youtube again?

[Anonymous No.]

>>51860453
>The overall trend is the same
>they move in the same direction for almost the entirety of the chart
You're talking in circles and avoiding the point of contention, which is the end of the chart where the trends diverge. You want to claim that xyz happens off chart, but you'll have to forgive me for not just believing text on an imageboard when you have had more than enough time to actually prove your point.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51860619
Schizo her vods will outperform miko, merch will outsell her as well

[Anonymous No.]

>>51859755
>>51860384
>Stops at April
This would look a lot worse now considering Ina's recent decline and Gura streams too little to get any reliable data.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51858782
>>51858785
do you not get bored of this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>51860752
Cope sis

[Anonymous No.]

>>51860453
I'll admit mistake here I misunderstood the point of your graph. When you put two lines on the same graph, the implication is you're comparing the two. Yes, if you look at each of the two lines individually, they appear to move together. What's far more interesting in a graph with two lines is to compare the difference between the two. Perhaps next time you should separate the graphs if you want to hide that the difference is so substantial

[Anonymous No.]

>>51860752
Faggot

[Anonymous No.]

I require a Nene riding a unicorn

[Anonymous No.]

>>51860735
>merch will outsell
Maybe, but 1.2-1.4 million dollars is a pretty tall order.
>Schizo her vods
Yes, it will. But if she barely produces content than it is a blip. You can't clone Gura 10 times and say the branch is fine, the other ENs do dogshit on VODs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51860752
kill yourself

[Anonymous No.]

>>51860794
>Admits to being a retard then says something retarded again
I guess it’s not your fault reading is hard

[Anonymous No.]

>>51855911
I thought he just wanted to make a rescue home for broken women?

[Anonymous No.]

>>51860294
Wait didn't the leak said something like that?
That it was supossed to be Mysta and Rosemi the ones hosting it

[Anonymous No.]

>>51860735
Yeah, let's compare HoloEN who only has Gura consistently above the 10k mark with HoloJP that has NINETEEN. Almost twice as many members HoloEN has, but I guess the branch is completely being a 10-women show forever. Are you being paid to suck Yagoo's dick or you do it because you genuinely like it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>51860827
I’m not defending the homo loving en managers or that faggot Yagoo, I’m defending Gura. Shitpost with the failures that couldn’t clear 20 or 30k

[Anonymous No.]

Another easy gold for ironmouse today

[Anonymous No.]

>>51860713
That's OK, the rest of the chart (made in the date the chart ends) is sufficient to push the point forward and give people the chance to believe or, as in your case, disbelieve it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51860957
hello rimjob anon
is the reason why you are here today because of the drama in the indies with the offkai orgy?

[Anonymous No.]

>>51860982
I'm not shitposting, I am sayi9ng a birthday stream from Gura and a merch run doesn't make the market healthy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51860957
>>51860982 (me)

[Anonymous No.]

>>51860902
rushia

[Anonymous No.]

>>51860527
Don’t watch homobeggars. She might as well not exist.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51861012
>offkai
Any other holofan enjoying the W of not being associated with that shit? It's hurt everyone's reputation who touched it.

[Anonymous No.]

I've seen this exact same conversation so many times I could probably generate it with ChatGPT
Graphanon is the only poster of worth here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51861021
Then use the failures who can’t keep an audience.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51861021
en market is dead with or without gura
market is just too garbage and too interwoven with fleshsstreaming

[Anonymous No.]

For some reason the algo REALLY wants me to watch this clip so now you will get infected too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_p3xM-wd4Yw
>Mio cute!

[Anonymous No.]

>>51860827
>the other ENs do dogshit on VODs.
No they don't? They hover around mid range JP numbers VOD wise. I'd dare say Mori even does well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51861142
Liar unless you’re trying to say Aki is mid range you homobegging faggot

[Anonymous No.]

So how grim is it that Luxiem has to leech from fucking homostars?

[Anonymous No.]

>>51861136
>not interested
>do not recommend channel

[Anonymous No.]

>>51860068
Yes, but vr is more like bilibili's so he is under b2.

>>51860127
B2 bug in their system so the chinks datamine everything.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51861142
Mori's VODs are less than the average Hololive member, Koyori.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51861012
Sure thing, coverdrone.

>>51860982
>>51861033
But Gura was never the point, you fucking retard. Gura is just one person and she can't carry the branch alone when she barely streams and the retarded EN management refuses to debut a new gen while coddling 8 of the worst hires they ever got since Cover started as a fucking tech company.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51861204
They do?

[Anonymous No.]

>>51861217
Wait, so that means he's literally Nijisanji?

[Anonymous No.]

>>51860659
>If only Gura is capable of getting 40k on a birthday stream while barely streaming for 8 months then the market is fucking dying, coverdrone
Anon you have number brainrot what other western female streamer can pull 40k out of nowhere. Stop comparing HoloEN with HoloJp and compare them to other western female streamers. In the west their probably only around 3 females besides holoEN that can hit 10k constant on a daily bias.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51861217
Does this explain why NijiEN let shxtou leech on them?

[Anonymous No.]

>>51861235
keep pushing that narrative that cover missed out by not hiring those recent debuts rimjob anon even though they are garbage

[Anonymous No.]

>>51861103
It gets repeated because people want to make sure that chartanon isn't trying to pull a funny again

[Anonymous No.]

>>51861232
>Koyori
>Average
Koyori is 7th for Hololive in the past 30 days
Mid would be around where Nepolabo VODs are.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51855969
>>51856222
>>51856896
>>51858526
And here is HoloID.

Right now it looks like they climbed all the way down the top of the massive mountain that formed after Kobo account got banned and they're sitting near the 2k line.
All things considered, they're ahead of where they were before ID3 but way down from Kobo's massive popular phase.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51861267
More like under b2. Chinks say his old group got bought by b2.

>>51861298
May be. The connection is there.

This leak just let you see all these so called 'indies' belong to multiple various org, some are public and some are more shadowy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51861235
If she wasn’t the point don’t use her. I can’t agree with you if you’re using her

>>51861290
Schizo Gura doesn’t stream enough for that to be true

[Anonymous No.]

>>51861369
>implying he isnt
he's probably boosting nijijp again by excluding members

[Anonymous No.]

>>51861439
>This leak just let you see all these so called 'indies' belong to multiple various org, some are public and some are more shadowy.
Did they mention Uto? She had a "shadow hand" behind her, which she admitted then disclaimed as having broken all ties.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51861290
I couldn't give less of a shit to the rest of the market. Cover had literally EVERYTHING to completely dominate the western female vtuber market by the balls while only leaving chink scraps to NijiEN but they still decided to push 8 failures that are barely giving anything to them right now other than cheap change with youtube money.

>>51861301
People like you make me hope that all 5 EN3 girls end up being homocollabing failures.

>>51861443
The one using her was the coverdrone saying that Gura getting 40k on an event stream means everything is fine and dandy with the western market.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51858781
>Curious, Can you do ID?
See >>51861413

[Anonymous No.]

>schizo chumbud vs schizo 2view shill
Oh my god shut the fuck up

[Anonymous No.]

>>51861498
I regret shilling her in global way back

[Anonymous No.]

>>51861439
>This leak just let you see all these so called 'indies' belong to multiple various org
Its not really surprising especially since its virtualreal or have people forgotten that niji hired paid clippers and reactors for jp and then for en back then and still probably do

[Anonymous No.]

>>51855969
>>51861413
>ID 2&3 brought on astronomical heights
>Gen5(at the time) and HoloX brought on astronomical heights
Surely EN3 will affect nothing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51861077
What happened so far? Other than that one confirmed was ran a train on her by her literal roommate.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51861537
>People like you make me hope that all 5 EN3 girls end up being homocollabing failures.
I mean if they hired any of the small corpo debuts they probably would have considering all of them wants to collab with the pathatic starsen

[Anonymous No.]

>>51861610
The "concert" was an absolute shitshow

[Anonymous No.]

>>51861614
And I'm sure Lord Fagoo will be willing to pull 5 girls out of his miracle ass that won't collab with those failures.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51861647
There was a concert?

[Anonymous No.]

>>51861685
Fauna needs to get her claws in them first before Mori

[Anonymous No.]

>>51861537
>Cover had literally EVERYTHING to completely dominate the western female vtuber market
But they literally are still dominating the western female vtuber market though? Or do you want them to be like jp and dominate the fleshstreaming market as well? because thats a tall order that not even someone like the top jp can do if they switched positions.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51861610
The entire endeavor was amateur hour, embarrassed the performers, and made anyone who went there look like pion. Connect the World better knock people's socks off to compensate.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51861647
That was in no way a concert. More like a spliced karaoke relay. Singing was okay for the most part, from a hosting perspective it was a disaster.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51861614
How schizo do you have to be to lie randomly

>>51861553
>actual schizo

>>51861381
Iofi and anya are also mid range jp tier

[Anonymous No.]

>>51861443
Stop being a thin-skinned faggot. No one was criticizing Gura but now I feel obliged to point out that Gura isn't blameless either. In the same way a rising tide lifts all boats, the prolonged absences of the #1 EN Vtuber hurt the branch as a whole in terms of keeping eyeballs on them. That's not me ridiculing her for not carrying the others, but Gura did contribute to the recline of the branch

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>>51861537
>decided to push 8 failures
Jesus, you are the failure and pathetic here. Get a fucking rope and kys already. To much number enter in your brain that you can't even type clearly. Not you just can't typt you are desperate schizo that is asking for attention at this point. KYS

[Anonymous No.]

>>51861685
I mean if fagoo hired the small corpo chuubas they probably would have collabed with them seeing as how most indies and small corpos are unoriginal and can only leech from popular ones

[Anonymous No.]

>>51861610
Why does this stuff happen so much at these con?

[Anonymous No.]

>Want to go to Japan Expo since it's been a while
>Biggest anime convention in the world, lots of guest from all over, tons of shit to do
>The only vtuber related stuff are fucking NijiEN
>Not even the passable ones like Pomu or Elira
Jesus fuck frogbros why are we like this.
Is it still worth just for the stands ? I'm sure there will be Holo goodies somewhere

[Anonymous No.]

>>51861724
The need to be HoloJP but in the west. This isn't 2020, HoloEN isn't a massive colossus anymore. They're just another group.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51861498
She doesn't have a b2 account so can't datamine her sadly.

[Anonymous No.]

Sex Gura agree?

[Anonymous No.]

>>51861103
Isn't timelooping this thread's favorite pastime? There are people who repost news/screenshots every 2 hours and the exact same discussion happens

[Anonymous No.]

>>51861724
Leading and dominating are completely different things. HoloEN had complete domination back in 2020/early 2021.

>>51861777
Keep trying, sister.

>>51861811
And that means hiring people from elsewhere will guarantee they won't touch the failures? Kek, what sort of delusion is this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>51861826
>>The only vtuber related stuff are fucking NijiEN
I thought they were at an adjacent event but not part of the convention itself.

Also there is a bushiroad booth selling holo merch. Connect the World is there is you managed to snag a ticket.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51861763
>Iofi and anya are also mid range jp tier
No need to make up shit. Here's Nene's latest VODs. What would you call this if not mid-range JP?

[Anonymous No.]

>>51861836
>The need to be HoloJP but in the west
Thats literally a tall order considering that jp streamers are smaller and easier to topple than western streamers
>This isn't 2020, HoloEN isn't a massive colossus anymore. They're just another group
They are still the group anon and the only other group thats bigger than them is HoloJP

[Anonymous No.]

>>51861869
No collab partner from that region?

[Anonymous No.]

>>51861889
It's cause fags here don't know how to tell retards to check the archives

[Anonymous No.]

>>51861610
There was that "18+ meet and greet" and from the looks of it it seems really fucking sad

[Anonymous No.]

>>51861772
Admits to being a faggot opinion discarded.

>>51861724
Twitch anon is a schizo but he’s not wrong holoen is nowhere near dominating it’s only Gura. You can argue Mori musically but that’s because there is no real music vtuber in the west. It’s like being the only welter weight in a featherweight field you win by default

[Anonymous No.]

>>51861899
>And that means hiring people from elsewhere will guarantee they won't touch the failures?
I mean worked in ID where all the current indie and small corpo vtubers were garbage just like the current en market and they got people from outside it like kaela and kobo

[Anonymous No.]

>>51861967
>holoen is nowhere near dominating it’s only Gura
Who else is beating Ina or Fauna?

[Anonymous No.]

>>51861967
You're not subtle Nijinigger

[Anonymous No.]

>>51861826
vtuber shit is treated like an afterthought/its own thing in a bunch of those cons mostly

[Anonymous No.]

>>51861879
Gawr is a little better

>>51861918
Low tier retard. 35 members how would someone in the bottom 10 be mid range

[Anonymous No.]

>>51861879
post more

[Anonymous No.]

>>51861918
>zelda
I am hesitant to use that as an indication of VOD strength.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51861976
>worked for ID
Nigger their biggest star would be the biggest homocollaber in the entire company if Ollie didn't exist. Jesus fucking Christ you people have dementia.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51861967
>it’s only Gura
Yeah, when she decides to get off her lazy ass and get a payday. Until then you're left with a sad market

[Anonymous No.]

>>51861836
Man pls stop this is not Japan when Anime is fine and can appear in many place in the country.
Fleshtubers dominte the west with Ironhand. And not even vbtubers or fleshtubers from jp can do anything to get on their levels.
This is not something you can change in just almost 3 years. Can you change trannies mind about lolis? can you change the sutpid left ideology against anime?
Yagoo will take between 10-15 years to change their minds meanwhile they always going be ignored by the west mainstream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51861879
Yes

[Anonymous No.]

>>51862012
mouse, even if she streams while she sleeps. Vei gets better CCV too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51862081
And that homocollaber is still a lot more talented than any of the indie or small corpo vtubers anon who also want to collab with the homos

[Anonymous No.]

>>51861826
I thought EU con organizers hate vtubers because they're not "anime"?

[Anonymous No.]

>>51862168
Yeah, and I'm sure she's doing much better than Gura or most of HoloEN right now.

[Anonymous No.]

I just want to see more Moom and friends singing and dancing on stage something nice and energetic like https://youtu.be/8wwTjwjqQR0

[Anonymous No.]

>>51862145
>Vei gets better CCV too.
She doesn’t. Her current average is 6.2k. She reclined significantly from her 2022 numbers (as did ironmouse)

[Anonymous No.]

>>51861919
>>51862129
Shortbus, I don't mean for them to compete with normie streams, I mean for them to massively tower over everyone else in the EN vtuber realm. The fact that some twitch indies can touch HoloEN's #2 and #3 is a disgrace.

I see no reason why HoloEN can't be among the top female streamers in the West if HoloJP can be top of the world.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51862145
>twitch numbers
I will never not find it funny that mouse only streamed a few times and youtube and went back to twitch the moment she realized that her audience will get filtered

[Anonymous No.]

>>51861967
NijiEN’s only wins in recent memory were when half of EN were sick or on break through the winter. They’re 26-112 since EN came back in February. Vox can only beat a pre-birthday Kiara in golds

[Anonymous No.]

P-Popular?...

[Anonymous No.]

>>51862239
why even bother engaging on his terms? twitch numbers are measuring a different thing, so it's a waste of time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51862239
That's just a little lower than Fauna last month and higher than Ina.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51862277
Amazing, luxiem might be nijiEN's biggest troll in vtubing history

[Anonymous No.]

>>51861919
>>51862012
Iron Mouse is bigger than everyone except Gura. And she ties with Ina. Mythic is filled with garbage but piled high they would beat everyone but Gura. Pippa is even beginning to nip at ankles. Dominating is far from what Holoen is doing. The only one dominating is Gura. The rest of Holoen are at best industry leaders

[Anonymous No.]

>>51862277
I have zero idea of who the fuck are those

[Anonymous No.]

>>51862201
She's actually doing a lot better than the indie and small corpo garbage which is why i keep on saying that them getting in would have been a decision on par with tempus
but i guess your ok with homocollabing as long as its your indie and small corpo chuubas so they can gain some attention right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>51862277
Not that much worse than some of the Pissm girls, is it? The Sony crew are dead as fuck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51862302
Thats on unfiltered twitch numbers anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>51862114
Then say that don’t make it seem like her birthday zatsu was disappointing. Call out the trash

[Anonymous No.]

>>51859869
>BiliBili nonsense numbers
/#/ has reclined

[Anonymous No.]

>>51861823
Most of these cons are a perfect excuse for them to fly over and meet/party/fuck and also farm audience with stories
>t. twitch tried pushing me a couple of streams after twitchcon

[Anonymous No.]

>>51861732
>Connect the World better knock people's socks off to compensate.
Not a hard feat. ENfags are easily impressed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51862254
meanwhile ame’s cull on youtube is big enough to cover all the users she loses when streaming on twitch

[Anonymous No.]

>>51862403
Shits all over Ironmouse, I expect our twitch friend to kneel.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51862301
Twitch and YT numbers will never be a true 1 to 1 comparison but I do think the thread tends to be too dismissive of Ironmouse at least, she's had good twitch numbers but that's also accompanied by clear popularity around the level of high tier HoloENs in the West

[Anonymous No.]

>>51862252
>Shortbus, I don't mean for them to compete with normie streams, I mean for them to massively tower over everyone else in the EN vtuber realm
In order to do that they actually need to do what jp did and dominate the normie streams as well and as ive said thats easier done in japan than in the west.
>I see no reason why HoloEN can't be among the top female streamers in the West if HoloJP can be top of the world.
Because HoloJP dominated the fleshtuber market as well

[Anonymous No.]

>>51862302
>>51862323
So the point is that HoloEN is not "dominating", just "leading". I get the point, I don't agree that there is any difference but yeah...

[Anonymous No.]

>>51862252
>HoloJP can be top of the world
Ninja, Foxdream, MrBeast, Dream i can metion more true tops if you want nigger.
Get out from that shitty clouds of your because this its the real world in the west.
Call me when some holojp can get Mrbeast CCV levels everytime he stream

[Anonymous No.]

Sasuga Met, not only did you achieve some nice Z's, you didnt end the stream

[Anonymous No.]

>>51862057
>Bottom 10
Aki
Sora
Matsuri
Flare
Choco
Roboco
Mel
Haachama
Polka
Just need 1 more to not be bottom 10 and you could make a lot of not!Nene arguments for the last spot, too lazy to think about it properly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51862252
>twitch

[Anonymous No.]

>>51856519
Only time I ever opened this thread. Bless.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51861945
Dang

[Anonymous No.]

>>51862331
Keep saying that everyone out there is garbage and that somehow Fagoo will pull 5 godlike girls out of his ass. If he can do that why it's taking 2 years for that to happen? Myth and Council happened in 5-ish months, did he lose his miracle asshole touch?

[Anonymous No.]

>>51862510
>Ninja, Foxdream, MrBeast, Dream i can metion more true tops if you want nigger.
FEMALE WOU FUCKING TROG. FEMALE STREAMERS.

[Anonymous No.]

HoloxNiji collab is happening rn bros

[Anonymous No.]

>>51862451
I mean from what I can tell in most threads vtuber fans in general won't hesitate to call a streamer just commenting on what's happening in the game they're streaming and doing nothing beyond that "kino".

[Anonymous No.]

>>51862450
>meanwhile ame’s cull on youtube is big enough to cover all the users she loses when streaming on twitch
unironically yes since she's from the west so her cull is bigger? i mean have you seen ayame and nenes twitch numbers and compare them to their yt numbers

[Anonymous No.]

>>51862563
>HoloJP can be top of the world
>WORLD
>WORLD
>WORLD
>WORLD
>WORLD

KNOW YOUR FUCKING PLACE vbtuber

[Anonymous No.]

>>51862510
>Twitch nigger can't read

[Anonymous No.]

>>51862388
Sure. Everyone except Gura has trash numbers in EN, and Gura is trash for squandering her potential and leaving a husk of what she used to be

[Anonymous No.]

>>51862587
I hate niji and holopro. The term "holopro" is just disgusting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51862263
Didn’t bring up nijien don’t care about nijien don’t care about 99.999% of western vtubers. They aren’t dominating if none of the “consistent” members of EN can make it on the top streamer list. Even with all the disadvantages multiple JP members can make it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51862626
>say that HoloJP can be top of the world
>somehow its the other anon who cant read

[Anonymous No.]

Why people keep using her subathon numbers as argument when it is literally the most buff period for a twitch streamer? It's the opposite actually, she is underperforming hard since it's dragging on for so long to even reach her goals. Even her peaks seem underwhelming since i predicted at least 20k.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51862483
>Because HoloJP dominated the fleshtuber market as well
Irrelevant. They only have to dominate the female vtuber market the same way HoloJP dominates the female vtuber market.
>In order to do that they actually need to do what jp did and dominate the normie streams as well and as ive said thats easier done in japan than in the west.
No they don't. HolopEN did dominate the female vtuber market in the 2020 and Early 2021.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51862587
I hope they all die.

[Anonymous No.]

On the Raspberry battle topic, there is a secondary battle ongoing right now.
Here are some averages for this month so far
>Flayon: 692
>Axel: 602
>Aia: 452
>Aster: 400

I wonder if Aster can be challenged for the Raspberry monthly table gold

[Anonymous No.]

>>51862668
Since when did they start using holopro? I dont remember it back on 2019.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51862587
>holo

[Anonymous No.]

>>51862557
i mean compared to the current indie and small corpo slop that gets shilled here they probably are better

[Anonymous No.]

>>51859869
>1.6bn viewers
I expect to see this top on the next combined EN chart

[Anonymous No.]

>>51862587
kek
so tempis hiding under Holo brand huh

[Anonymous No.]

>>51862644
Schizo

[Anonymous No.]

>>51862707
Are they actually making faggyon incline by raiding the shit out of him?

[Anonymous No.]

>>51862730
The Fagoo dicksucking is strong in this one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51862625
Adjectives can carry over to a following clause and in that sentence "female" was implied.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51862756
Not really, this might be his all time low (not sure). It is Axel striving to raspberry pass him

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>51862587
>HOLO

[Anonymous No.]

>>51862620
i wasn’t being sarcastic i agree with you. twitch streamers dream of being able to swap platforms without losing 2-4x their ccv

[Anonymous No.]

>>51862765
Here's 100 shekels, don't waste them all at once

[Anonymous No.]

>>51862704
>They only have to dominate the female vtuber market the same way HoloJP dominates the female vtuber market.
And HoloJP dominated the female vtuber market by dominating the jp streamer market which gave them access the whole jp streamer market anon which gave them big numbers its not rocket science
>No they don't. HolopEN did dominate the female vtuber market in the 2020 and Early 2021.
What the fuck are you talking about? Nobody ever said about HoloEN dominating their streaming market

[Anonymous No.]

>>51862563
>Poki, Valkyrae, kyedae, Fuslie
These are the only female flesh streamers that are on the same level of holoen. Holoen are top market for female streamers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51862807
GRIM

[Anonymous No.]

>>51862522
But you didn’t because she’s bottom 10

[Anonymous No.]

>>51862693
Then you could go back to before her subathon. Even then her numbers average ccv is the same or even better than someone like Fauna

[Anonymous No.]

>>51862807
GRIMhours

[Anonymous No.]

>Another episode of Mori Minecraft VC
surely this time someone will join her VC right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>51862815
>Nobody ever said about HoloEN dominating their streaming market
But they should.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51862755
Tell me what was wrong with that statement

[Anonymous No.]

These Tempus x Niji collabs are really strange. You'd never see King collabing with a shitter like Astel or something.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51862877
Has anyone ever joined her VC streams yet?

[Anonymous No.]

I love her

[Anonymous No.]

>>51862730
Explain how Kronii and Ame aren’t carried by branding. Mori? Kiara? Fauna? Miori? Bae?

[Anonymous No.]

Fagoo poster is mad that his 2view oshis didn't get into holoen every time a new corpo debuts new chuubas. Please understand.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51862839
Anon, ironmouse is in a massive slump in comparison with ironmouse 2022

[Anonymous No.]

Fauna should play Shadow Empire

[Anonymous No.]

>>51862693
>>51862839
nobody is even mentioning the elephant in the room that connor his orbiters had to shill her streams to ever streamer that they are connected with in order to promote mouse subathon and even with that connor had to swoop in in order for mouse to reach her goal

[Anonymous No.]

>>51862877
kronii is streaming in 30 mins. they'll overlap a little

[Anonymous No.]

>>51862953
>United we fall

[Anonymous No.]

>>51862403
they make more sense than youtube thats for sure

[Anonymous No.]

>HoloENs median at their lowest point with their equivalent of Miko, Peko and Aqua MIA except for events or collabs is equal to the Koshien and Salome highest point ever for the 3rd place median
>Next highest EN vtuber group is around a quarter of them
>EN market equivalent of Vspo in terms of placement is sub StarsJP
>OHNONONO PHASE IS STEALING OUR MARKET HOLOBRONIES
>GRIM GRIM GRIM GRIM
Ogey

[Anonymous No.]

>>51862830
And they shouldn't be good company, they should be kneeling.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51862993
Fauna should played with my dick and tell she doesn't want to be friends.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51862907
Not even HoloJP can dominate the western streaming market anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>51862839
This shows she isn't better than fauna though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51862839
>same or better
>twitch ccv

[Anonymous No.]

>>51862961
Getting over it had Bae, Iofi, Moona, Ollie and Kaela all call in at points

[Anonymous No.]

>>51863030
nobody is going to argue that the whole en scene is fucking dying
it really was a fad... for western casual tourist watchers
they'll rather watch xqc arguing with hasan about kick and gambling

[Anonymous No.]

>>51863057
but they do

[Anonymous No.]

>>51863030
Things can still be grim, even if it's worse for everyone else

[Anonymous No.]

>While you MONGOS are talking about nonsense I'm watching a cute genius vampire to deliver the ONLY true news coming from Hololive
JAANAAA, MONGOS!

[Anonymous No.]

>>51863083
So no big ones? Only shitters?

[Anonymous No.]

>>51862839
So Ironmouse is Fauna tier? So are we supposed to be saying that Fauna is one of the top ENs now when this thread has consistently talked about how her ceilings and mindshare are garbage? So which narrative are we going with here?
And this is Ironmouse who towers over the rest of twitch vtubers, mind you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51863030
It should never be up for debate. HoloJP should be their fellows, HoloEN shouldn't be beating up elementary schoolers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51862620
Nope you’re just dumb JP is not going to switch over to twitch for a game they already don’t like. Your dumb theory hinges on a portion of her audience having her in the background while also not having premium

>>51862911
>Squandered potential
Your English is probably the first problem. You can’t squander something when you’re the undisputed number 1.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51863119
no they dominate the global female market which they did through dominating their domestic market aka the jp market
Holojp arent even in the top 10 in the western streaming market anon

[Anonymous No.]

>Blue homo openly using the Holo name on his stream title

Now it makes more sense as to why they would rather kill the distinction when even the so called leader of the branch would rather use the word Holo over the Stars moniker and further encourage the redditors to do the same,

Does this kind of shit actually poisons the alghoritm for HoloEN?

[Anonymous No.]

>>51862775
vbtubers cannot compare to fleshstreamers in the west because they spend over 10 years increasing their audience and you just expect less than 3 years just knock the door and destroy them just like that??? KNOW YOUR FUCKING PLACE, Holojp are still a bunch of nobodies among the big fleshtubers in the west. You start touching the west since 2020 but trannies and lefties always saying the same shit: they hate lolis and people who pretend be anime girls to the core. Not suprised why /a/ hate this place. Know your fucking place. You need at least 10-15 years to do something.
>Holojp top of the world
what a fucking joke

[Anonymous No.]

>>51862986
Of course she is, but the original reason for bringing her up was focused around whether or not Hololive stills "dominates" the EN market or not, and someone responding that no one even matched Fauna or Ina. Even in her weakened state Ironmouse is still on that level.
>>51863074
I'm pretty certain her median ccv for February was higher than Fauna's in the same month, and her average the same or higher as well

[Anonymous No.]

>>51863116
yeah xqc was streaming only up to 70k people while the whole en branch just keeps declining

[Anonymous No.]

>>51863142
You think a guy trying to directly compare twitch numbers to youtube is representative of the views of "this thread"?

[Anonymous No.]

>>51860294
Why? Shouldn't it be xsoleil's party to throw?
They have way better MCs too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51863142
They guy is retarded comparing twitch and youtube ccv

[Anonymous No.]

>>51863142
Fauna is the best EN vtuber consistently active currently

[Anonymous No.]

>>51862513
Her Youtube account is currently bugged, as in the account suddenly logged out by itself while she was streaming and she couldn't log back in so she can't end her stream.
So it's either someone got hold of her Youtube account, or it's the usual Youtube shenanigans. What I'm surprised at though is that she contacted the management during that stream but somehow they couldn't do anything about it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51863053
>"we aren't not friend this relationship is purely psychical"
>she says as she's riding you

[Anonymous No.]

>>51863157
>You can’t squander something when you’re the undisputed number 1
Number 1 in EN, but at one point she was the number 1 Vtuber in the world, and she could have remained so with a little effort. Now she's the queen of the reclining secondary market

[Anonymous No.]

>>51863176
only when you talk about watch hours and thats becasue the others stream much more
ccv-wise they dominate

[Anonymous No.]

I don't what anons are smoking using xqc when he is declining too. He literally admitted himself recently.

.t actual juicer

[Anonymous No.]

>>51863242
They need to find ways to raise viewership not debuff it
According to the leak it was mysta and rosemi

[Anonymous No.]

>>51862979
I have no idea why you retards keep bringing Fauna into this when she was a high 3-view/low 4-view as a indie which made her more popular without the brand than most of the replacements indies/small corpos you guys keep bringing up and more than most other HoloENs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51863280
Google unlogs you every once in a while and requires you to re login.
That fucked me in more than one presentation already, I learned to log out and log back in before doing anything important

[Anonymous No.]

>>51863116
Yeah is dying in your shitty mind of schizo. You can get also a rope and KYS already.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51862830
That’s a lie Kiara bae ame and mori can bat 3k

[Anonymous No.]

>>51863297

[Anonymous No.]

>>51863195
Why wouldn't it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>51863357
reclined into a $100m deal, who cares about his ccv

[Anonymous No.]

>>51863369
being angry isn't helpful
it's not going to change anything
you can just look at the numbers

[Anonymous No.]

>>51863341
HoloJP doesn't win against Japanese fleshstreamers. Korekore can drop 100k on his weekly stream

[Anonymous No.]

>>51863364
Yeah, they sporadically require to rewrite your password to prove you're the acc owner or some shit. Happens with other domains as well, but not frequently used ones.

[Anonymous No.]

I think there are multiple reasons for having 8 stars debut in the one year, some me guessing, some we know. But while holoEN may be attacked there are no new members, I doubt stars will get any new talents soon, and new EN is about to be announced.

Announcing Uproar at the end of the 1st Stars concert made fans get crazy excited. I expect them to catch lightning in a bottle twice and do the same at the end of EN's concert.

We know Tempus was originally meant to be 6 members, but thought it was too many people to debut too close together so they split them and added two more. They could have have left the two as a duo unit but since trinello, I've seen they seem to debut everyone in 4's or more. At the moment they have the same amount of members as the OG9 which they know is manageable. Once they grow and solidify, there will be more, hell maybe after even them potentially doing a concert.

[Anonymous No.]

EN3 next week

[Anonymous No.]

>>51863464
>Yeah, they sporadically require to rewrite your password to prove you're the acc owner or some shit.
Sometimes it is worse than that, if you didn't log for a long time in that computer or if the IP changed you might need to verify in a secondary way (SMS sometimes)

[Anonymous No.]

>>51863360
NTA but the fact that Fauna is now a high 4view means no shit, she's carried by branding. Everyone in the big corpos is carried by branding. The problem is you drooling retards who assume being "carried by a brand" is inherently negative

[Anonymous No.]

>>51863450
and hololive can drop 100k on their lives and tournaments

[Anonymous No.]

>>51863422
Yea, dude has made it. He can recline to 3 view status and not have to worry.

[Anonymous No.]

Why doesn't Mori play Minecraft with Fauna if she wants to get back into the box? It's not a secret to anyone that Fauna plays on Mondays whenever she can.

[Anonymous No.]

Western and jp streamers can't even compare to douyin streamers (40k streamers are like candies there) and spic streamers like ibai. Anons here should know their own places.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51863516
Too much work, she'd rather hand out with her twitch clique

[Anonymous No.]

>>51863360
I’ve never brought anyone up that’s your delusions. My point is anyone can be their level by joining Hololive, only actual talents can be top members though. And people made similar claims about all the ones I’ve named all lies so I’ll assume the same with her

[Anonymous No.]

>>51863280
>>51863364
>>51863464
>>51863489
might also be related to the recent bug i noticed where comments except the top comments are erased in some videos
dont know if anyone has said anything about it here but it might have something to do with the new shit they are trying to integrate in yt

[Anonymous No.]

>>51863474
how do you know?

[Anonymous No.]

>>51862995
Ok?

[Anonymous No.]

>>51863489
I've set it to notify my phone with that number bubble thing. Really fucked me over when I was out of coverage one time. Reverted back to walking around with a 512gb microsd in a adapter

[Anonymous No.]

>Holoconnect is in next Sunday
>is full house
>People in this shitty thread still shit HoloEN like they asking for attention
>Every HoloEN is fine
>This shitty thread just cannot accept and start making a lot rrats in less than 2 hours.
Damn burger hours are the worst here. I' will wait for kronnie MC. You can go an fuck yourself or wharever you shitty wet dreams telling you.
>EN is dying i swear in my wet dreams
THis is why this is the worst thread of the entire /vt/. Just schizos, antis and shitposter gather here

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>>51863450
Kore 100k streams are actually rare now and only happen if the drama is juicy enough

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>>51863607
Moom told me

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>>51863613
imagine having to rely on a male for numbers

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>>51863030
Ever tried ignoring the voices in your head? It might make you less angry

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>>51863534
wtf is a douyin?

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>>51863640
No expansion and a glorified 3D live. Seems like nothing much to me.

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>>51863578
Might relate to them rolling account handles back out? That's my theory

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>>51863669
Chink's Tiktok

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>>51863640
So you think EN vtubing is actually doing better than it has in the past? Even if the numbers don't reflect that? Nice English by the way.

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Nobody gives a fuck about HomoxHomo kek

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>51863276
I don’t understand why schizos don’t get banned at this time

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>>51863640
>People in this shitty thread still shit HoloEN
This thread is basically the unofficial Fauna, Mumei, IRyS and Gura general. Dunno why you think schizos are representative

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>>51863689
nah too small for something that has created too many bugs might be the new shorts algo and that

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>>51860804
I'm not the one who's so concerned about males, Fruitchama.

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>>51863142
No you’re just a schizo making things up

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>>51863736
>HoloxNij
I hate faago so much

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No Mysta POV? Also oof at Finana.

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>>51863736
Finana... Please watch her...

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>>51863640
>EN biggest star is basically soft retired
>only a select few talents stream
>Homo's at all hour of the day
>mori
anon come on now it's pretty grim

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>>51863794

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>>51863754
Frankly it more like the Fauna general that occasionally becomes a Gura general when she's actually doing something. IRyS isn't as represented as she used to be, and Mumei is mostly brought up by saplings /here/ who have taken a liking to her

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>>51863640
Damn the ESL is strong with this one, I can feel the accent through my screen

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>>51863736
What does all of the popular demand want anyway? Why do they only show up for MaleXFemale collabs, but not for cross-company collabs of their favorite males? It's like they're not actually showing up for the streamers or content themselves, but more for the transgressive nature of male-female collabs in particular. Almost like how very few people show up to see trains running in normal condition, but tons of people watch trainwrecks. Really makes you think.

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Reminder:
AsaMio = Infowars
AsaMel = CNN
AsaKoyo = Fox News

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>>51863736
>the highest performers dont use holo x niji
They're there for a reason.

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>>51863777
>it took him 1 hour to reply

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Reminder:
Male Collab = Whore

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>>51863867
is there no good real news?!

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>>51863903
numbers

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>>51863309
Still wrong on 2 maybe 3 counts. She’s probably cover’s most profitable member, she still falls into the top 10 with ccv and top 3 with vods. So again you don’t know what you’re talking about not to mention the 4 million subs

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>>51863867
I have no idea what the reasoning behind this comparison is but I'll blindly accept it

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Aieeeee