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With the impending graduation, here is something amusing: Gundou was “the canary in the mine”.
A whole lot of the recent complaints within the company (overt or through alt accounts) is the fact Nijisanji clearly wanted a piece of the “idol pie” and was changing from a laid back care free “anyone can be a liver” kind of company into a professional, goody goody, clean image “entertainment factory”.
Mayuzumi made it a point to disclose his departure was caused by that, “shifting priorities” and Gundou was another one also outspoken about it.

Gundou was the canary in the mine. She survived stuff much more polemic than this in the past, things that if Anycolor had fired her back then nobody would have shed a tear.
Nijisanji getting rid of her signals that the worse fears of their original audience are to come
>the end of the “chaos faction”, the “sukebe group” and the total idolfication of their ranks

>> No.51823630

>>51823580
Idc. Nijininigger bad rep = good for me

Next.

>> No.51823788

>>51823580
Rent free, rent free yes I know bronies, but this still needs to be said:
Do Holofags want Niji to act more like idols or not? Because they give mixed signals about this, like this guy >>51823630
Or is the male collab thing the only thing Holofags care about and the "idol culture" talking point is just their excuse to unicorn?

>> No.51823908

>>51823788
Holofags want nijisanji to burn over ancestral greviances, nijibrony, it's not that hard

>> No.51824100

Fire Enna next please.

>> No.51824330

>>51823580
Yeah, Niji is supposed to be the freedom company while Holo is the restrictive idol company, but now a member got in trouble just from one little harmless trolling comment about sport

>> No.51824448

>>51823580
it's more ridding themselves of a problematic element ahead of the koshien playoffs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrCfYFf5H_g

>> No.51824531

>>51823908
>Holofags want nijisanji to burn over ancestral greviances
nijinig projection
not gonna deny that it isn't true for some holofags but then what came first, you fucking faggot, the chicken or the egg

>> No.51824624

>>51823580
Yeah. As per always once money enters the room, fun and creativity soon and depart

>> No.51824829

>>51824448
So stupid how she had to release this when she was getting fired anyway. She could have just told them to fuck off instead.

>> No.51826640

>>51824829
probably was required for her to get a graduation instead of termination
kind of hoping she'll drop some bombs in the last stream, but there's no way they aren't prepared to shut it down if she does

>> No.51826744

>>51823580
Speaking of which, numbers predictions?

>> No.51827255

>>51826640
Being a native JP she will do as she's told and that's it. Also don't be surprised if there's suicide rumors 3 months from now.

>> No.51827326

>>51823580
Kson already salivating at a chance to SAVE

>> No.51827428

>>51823580
Prediction: Holo and Niji will gradually switch places because of the fact that Niji sold out completely and Holo only sold some of their stock but not the majority of it. Over time Cover Corp will be the ones with the (relatively) more free talents while Niji livers will have to control everything they do for fear of harming their investorfags.

>> No.51827479

>>51823580
I think you're wrong anon. They might force their bigger earners to do it to sell concert tickets, but their attitude towards most of their livers is to ignore them while taking most of their gross earnings.

Gundo in particular was just on the cusp of big enough for Niji to care what she did, being #60 of 238,

>> No.51827579

>>51827479
>everyone below her moved up a rank
So Niji is basically battle royale. If that's the case they should just go all in

>> No.51827644

>>51826640
I hope she pulls a Zaion and brings out the docs, but the chance is slim at best.

>> No.51827703

>>51827428
It's already like this, anon, Holos criticize shit games all the time, Nijis get suspended for saying that login queues are too long.

>> No.51827775

>>51827644
>pulls a Zaion
Makes shit up and hopes her fandom sides with her over 11 other livers, management, and a list of verifiable infractions a mile long?

>> No.51827799

>>51827644
Zaion knows she had the support and the sob story that the EN fans will leap on.

Gundou have almost nothing. Even Rushia probably have more protectors than her. The second trending tag is "Treated (as) Graduation", with numerous tweets saying "Huh.... 'Graduation' huh" or "She should be terminated instead" or "be grateful you are allowed to have 'graduation'". I'm abit afraid of what she will do on stream for her graduation

>> No.51827837

>>51827775
Hope that 50 cents do you good.

>> No.51827869

>>51827775
And not even petty infractions. Its an actual scandalous infraction like allegations of trying to duplicate "Blue Whale Challenge"

>> No.51827900

>>51827837
Hope you actually watch the girl you harp on about, she was at 400 viewers earlier today and sure could use ACTUAL support instead of this banner bearing

>> No.51827940

>>51827326
Can't wait for her mixing with Nazuna.

>> No.51828013

>>51823788
>Do Holofags want Niji to act more like idols or not?
If not stated when last signed contract, it's up to the talents. But you have to pay the talents. Can't expect them to give up on income from streaming to work on something that only gives them 2% merch.
Hololive talents will go in the hole paying for their own 3D Lives, but will get more in return from their merch. Nijitalents are not even allowed to make own merch?

Idol in Hololive is much different from Nijisanji financially.

>> No.51828020

>>51823580
The sukebe group has never been much of an issue. They are not any worse than Marine. In general, men who like idols have no problem with women being perverted, lusting after 2D men/women, etc. - what they do have a problem with is when they're riajuu when they're telling them about their past (or current) experiences with other men, etc. - something which men wouldn't want to hear from the girl they're dating either. Not to mention the kind of unprofessional collabs they tend to do (this is much more of an EN problem though).

>> No.51828072

>>51827900
Up to a whole dollar, impressive, congratulations on the bonus.
If you weren't born defective you would understand that I don't give a fuck about Zaion or Gundo, I only care about your company crashing and burning for setting up shit standards for the industry.
>inb4 holobrony
Same goes for Cover, going public is the point of no return in the race to become a shit corpo, they are just not quite there yet.

>> No.51828155

>>51827428
>free talents
Never been true, The definition of "free" in Nijisanji is that they don't bother to manage their member as it would only add more unnecessary expense for them, They are more "free" because the company don't really care about them, If they made a big mistake in their eyes and profitable enough they will just cut them loose, You can argue that Gundou is somewhat still one of their most popular member but she definitely not worth the same as back then

>> No.51828177

>>51823580
t. Doesn’t watch any NijiJP and just consumes rrats

>> No.51828291

>>51827428
Anons if you ever own any kind of company never go fully public it's literally better to just go bankrupt and start over, that's the lesson of the day

>> No.51828333

>>51823580
Building a list of past infractions to save for later use is so black. If punishment wasn't deemed necessary then, why should it matter later? Combining them all later just to make themselves look justified over something small.

>> No.51828384

>>51827428
Even before the Investorfags showed up this was already sort of true bc Niji was always more of a numberfag company, this is just a change in the direction that the numberfaggery pushes them in (a cleaner image for more money). Recently thanks to several choices made by management and the talents themselves it's become increasingly clear that Cover, on the other hand, certainly doesn't prioritize numbers as their main goal and they have doubled down on prioritizing their own concerns over money (for better or worse). This just makes sense desu

>> No.51828483

>>51828155
>You can argue that Gundou is somewhat still one of their most popular member but she definitely not worth the same as back then

Why do EOPs think Gundou is popular? She gets 3 digit viewers, she is bottom tier in nijisanji.

>> No.51828584

>>51828483
Because she is, she's the 68th out of 203

>> No.51828992

>>51827775
> a list of verifiable infractions a mile long?
One problem with producing such a list is, when it's shown that a large number of those infractions are "verifiable" bullshit, it tends to make people lose site of any that might make the termination seem justified. Leave out the "claiming to be sponsored by Deez Nuts", or "talked about Uno's netcode being shit", and the like, and they could have avoided a lot of embarrassment.

>> No.51829001

her debut date was 2019 and niji was already doing stage performances at that time. Wtf is this shit? Do tourists think niji only started doing idolshit in 2021 or something

>> No.51829284
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>>51823580

>> No.51829389

>>51828483
Different companies have different standard, I'm not gonna use Holo's standard to judge Niji because 900 views is actually considered good when the top ones get 2k views at best

>> No.51829408

>>51828483
Like i said you can argue that because the average Niji is unironically 3views, The bar in Niji is that low, retard

>> No.51829510

>>51827775
>>51827837
>>51827869
where the fuck is my bug spray

>> No.51830189

>>51828020
>what they do have a problem with is when they're riajuu when they're telling them about their past (or current) experiences with other men, etc.
This is something Gundou did on multiple occasions. Or is your post critiquing her?

>> No.51830505

>>51830189
Less in the context of the SKB group which are for the main part portraying themselves as underfucked, sexually frustrated hags, and not as riajuus who are having sex with other men than their audience all the time.

>> No.51830817

>>51823630
fpbp

>> No.51831121

>>51829284
https://youtu.be/hGI2d31M7Ns

>> No.51831449

>>51830189
Isn’t gundou the lesbian niji that actually came out on stream about being one

>> No.51833692

>>51829284
She is free

>> No.51834732

>>51824829
Dude she's still Japanese. Being one of the more free-spirited ones is like being a slightly taller midget.

>> No.51837182

Who is the next anti-idol niji will get rid off?

>> No.51837467

>>51830189
Isn't that why Gundou has alot of haters in general?
>>51831449
No, the lesbians is the nurse and black hair one whose name I dont remember.

>> No.51837514

>>51837467
>Isn't that why Gundou has alot of haters in general?
Among other things, yes.

>> No.51837611

>>51831449
She's bi, and has talked about having sex with both men and women.

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