Why are male collabs so alluring for EN chuubas?

[Anonymous No.]

Is it because of the forbidden and controversial nature of it, of which women naturally are drawn to?
Is it because they enjoy the idea that their male viewers will donate even as they degrade and humiliate them?
Anons, we must figure out the reason behind this.

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Le parasocial le bad
tldr; they're retarded like all women but western female retardation makes them think parasocial relationships are a negative on spite of them being a massive positive

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>>51657430
But female vtubers also seem more excited, happy and vibrant in male collabs e.g. kronii. So its not only just owning le incels

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2%

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>>51657597
It seems this also applies to NijiEN

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Because women are dumb whores who think they’re owed men’s time, affection, and money, but they should also be allowed to do whatever they want.

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>>51656982
Men are more entertaining and fun to be around. There's only so much business yuri that heterosexual women can tolerate before they've had enough with being surrounded by so much estrogen.

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>>51656982
Literally no one outside of /vt/ chuds and Twitter troons obsesses about male collabs at all. You two are two sides of the same shit coin.

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>>51657430
fpbp

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Falseflag.

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>>51656982
Maybe they're trying to tell all of the male vtuber fans that they must become vtubers themselves, possibly as part of a VR marketing campaign.

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>>51659295
/thread

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>>51656982
not my problem

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>Why are men more fun to hang out with than women?
C'mon, OP...

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>>51659295
>>51663426
So true, sisters! Those chuds need to improve themselves!

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>>51668835
Acting like a troon doesn't make any of that less true, anon. Ad hominem is a fallacy for a reason.

As for OP, I don't think anyone particularly desires to collab with males in specific. It could be said that peopke in general, not just women, tend to react to "don't do this" by seeking to do the very thing out of spite, but I don't see any of that happening in Hololive. It's most likely that Kronii, Bae and Mori want to do things on stream with other people, irrelevant of gender, and it just so happens that Tempus are there and up to collaborate.

Example: Mori wanted to run TTRPGs on stream. She tries to do it with Myth, who wasn't into it and flake after a few sessions. She later forms a tabletop group with Kronii, Magni and Vesper and goes from playing Uno to do what she wanted all along and run a TTRPG session.
Also see JPside (and Olli), who are so addicted to Apex they will collab with males, even from outside Cover, just to have someone to play Apex on stream with.

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>>51656982
Don't worry they'll bring the unicorn bait content back when their wallet starts to feel a bit light.

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>>51657550
I never watch her fag collabs, is she really that different in them, she laughs and has clippable moments with banter in her female collabs and she and IRyS are always eating each other out when they are on screen together.

I think it's just drama baiters trying to piss off unicorns, which to be fair I think that's what Mori and Kronii are trying to do themselves.

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>>51669565
>Acting
That wasn't an act. That guy is a troon and doesn't seem to realize that Vox also has disgusting unicucks.

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I think its more like they're normie girls and the idea that their viewerbase would be so threatened by them speaking to a coworker doesn't even cross their mind until they see a bunch of grown adults having emotional meltdowns over them playing a video game with an anime boy
Think about it, these girls interact with dozens of men casually every day just going to the store or something and think nothing of it

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>>51672313
no matter what people say, that's the actual reason

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>>51672313
Yeah everyone does that too and they interact with plenty of their audience through chat but how often do you get to have a 1-1 convo with them while playing games over Discord for free, that privilege is reserved for the anime boy while the audience has to fly out to a convention and pay to enter a lottery to speak to their oshi for 1 minute.

Also they might be normies, all women are, but they absolutely know the reception this behavior will get them and they do it on purpose.

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>>51656982
All women are whores and crave male attention
Chat doesn't count because streamers don't see their chat as human beings
These girls would happily throw everything including their own careers away if it meant getting 2 hours of male attention
People make fun of coomer fans but these chuubas are down worse, they have no inhibitions and you can't pay them enough to even pretend otherwise

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>>51671069
What happened to supporting The Cause, sister?

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>>51672755
Why do you think the vtubers that have boyfriends/husbands irl are the ones that handle the homo situation the best? It's because they're getting the dick and attention they need offstream
The ones that go >I'm a virgin UwU or >I never get into relationships I'm just like you guys
Those are the ones that will throw their fanbase under the bus at the first chance to flirt with males on stream

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>>51659295
>Anon makes an intelligent comment in a moment of lucidity

Woah!

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>>51656982
women hate other women. jp are educated from young age to put a fake front for the world (both male and female). EN just do what they want without regard to make them successful

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>>51669565
>It's most likely that Kronii, Bae and Mori want to do things on stream with other people, irrelevant of gender, and it just so happens that Tempus are there and up to collaborate.
Literally all wrong
Bae is a raging fujo and interacts with the homos because anime men get her wet
Kronii might have started her collabs with the homos just to get along with coworkers and play games like you said but her attitude towards them changed drastically after she got backlash from her fans. She now continues those collabs out of spite because she hates said fans wholeheartedly, also she enjoys the male attention.
Mori collabs with them for multiple reasons on the one hand she's the top whore HoloEN, she's also a big saviorfag and sees the failing Stars as her children that need to be propped up by her and she's a massive contrarian and likes doing male collabs because she knows they're controversial

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>>51670982

As a former fan I'm being dead serious when I say I only managed to watch 10ish minutes of 2 of her first collabs with the homos because of how different she portrays herself alongside them for some reason. Call me a faggot, a schizo or whatever but it irked me seeing her laugh twice as much and being 5x times more energetic, talkative and lively amongst the homos when compared to her previous collabs with the girls. It really wasn't even close to her "normal behaviour" as much as you like to point out a couple funny/memorable moments she had with another hologirl
Merely just watching a few moments from those collabs led me to the conclusion that she simply REALLY dislikes her "usual job"(solo streams and girl collabs) in Hololive and her "depressive" character trait/style is actually legit boredom from the job she does and not her character.
I felt kinda "betrayed"(or maybe I was the one "betraying" her true self) for cherishing moments she shared with the girls during collabs, when I realized she actually mostly hated all those moments I considered precious

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>>51656982
I haven't seen a single one of them because I didnt watch any of those chubas before. Seeing only the effects makes me think it might be an attempt to change how idol culture is perceived? In any case as long as it doesn't affect me, i have no reason to put thought on it.

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>>51673747
What happened with Kronii is a real shame
She went mask off because of the homo collabs and it revealed the face of a vindictive, spiteful liar underneath
I liked the mask she wore before but there is no putting it back on... Things will never be what they were before Tempus debuted

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>>51673542
>Kronii might have started her collabs just to get along but literally one collab later she completely changed her motivations because the voices in my head told me so
ogey

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>>51673966
Who cares? You should've lost respect for her already when she didn't know Ahoy or Weather Hackers

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>>51673966
Please take your schizo ass out and don't come back

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>>51674314
So true, sister! Own that incel!

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>>51656982
some women just have a need for hot male seed

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>>51674351
Ah yes, the two responses. Calling him a sister or YWNBAW

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>>51674407
That’s the tea kween sksksksksks

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>>51657430
Honnestly i think it's due to that stupid twitter tier belief. There is no other way i would imagine it.But well reality will hit them hard, and harder than it hit them now. EN was already bleeding and the homo have litteraly open the floodgates. They fell for a demonising campain and found themselves in an unsustainable situation. Now they are either or both pissing of the twitter retard to try to appease their core audience or piss off their core audience toappease twitter retard. End result they will get chink-tier anti in the process. But that is what you get for falling for twitter retard narative.

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>>51656982
Maybe you faggots are just mentally ill and look way to far into this shit.

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>>51673542
Literally all wrong, the last time Bae collabed with homos was because she wanted validation from dudes that her children's Barbie movies are good and meant for all genders and ages

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>>51656982

It's because they are not social retards that try to compensate for fake relationships instead of confronting their fear of rejection

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>>51675132
kinda weird that the most popular stars are the ones that collab the most with girls.

[Anonymous No.]

*rapes and beheads unicorns*

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>>51656982
Anon you know JP chuubas outside of Holo are collabing with males all the time right? HoloJP culture is not the norm.

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>>51673542
go back to bed and take your meds anon

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>>51656982
women like men

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>>51659295
Holy shit, there are smart people in this shithole after all.

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>>51673747
these are the anons that rule the board? s-sugoi…

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>>51673747
>it irked me seeing her laugh twice as much and being 5x times more energetic, talkative and lively
>I felt kinda "betrayed"(or maybe I was the one "betraying" her true self) for cherishing moments she shared with the girls during collabs, when I realized she actually mostly hated all those moments I considered precious
Repeat these quotes out loud until you learn what's with what you're saying

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>>51678281
> wake up try and end up crying on the ground after 2s.
Faggot can't win against men, you know it.

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>>51672313
You sound like you go outside, I like you

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>>51657430
this

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>>51656982
The only reason for this is that 》ONLY《 4chan schizos care about it, to literally everyone else in the world thats just like hanging out with some friends / coworkers, meeting up with some neigbours for a nice BBQ, etc.

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>>51673542
Why do you choose to live like this? I'll soon be a fucking year man.

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>>51656982
They get tired of only interacting with other females.
Every woman needs to feel validation from males.

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>>51656982
almost like women are attracted to men

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>>51669565
>It's most likely that Kronii, Bae and Mori want to do things on stream with other people, irrelevant of gender, and it just so happens that Tempus are there and up to collaborate.

Kronii has repeatedly passed on collabs with girls only to jump at collabs with homos

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>>51656982
No way Kronii would ever collab with that fag though right?
She is friends with Vesper.

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>>51656982
They dont consider the opinons of complete fucking faggots who think they are getting cucked.

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>>51674453
If only elong had started killing twitter troon management a year earlier

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>>51673747
>>51673966
Please sepukku. Livestream it too.

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>>51675132
Why are there 2 sets of numbers?

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>>51687341
Amen
Sanest VT post i've seen in years

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>>51687629
Avg / peak

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>>51687738
Thanks :D

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>>51656982
Anon you have the reverse mindset...
Its not why do they crave male, its why do you hate it.

At base, there isnt anything wrong with a collab and all those male collabs are actually fine to you, if they were both women. Its a rule you imposed and it doesnt make the v tuber bad. Its not even a hit aimed at you. Its your reaction to it. Maybe compare such collabers and see if it matters? Towa did a twitch game collab that involved males a few days ago.Ollie and Baelz have done some, Suisei from JP too. But the loyal fans still seem to have more or less the same experience.

It might be different for a period of Kronii or ame, but they were mad at the viewers and using male collabs to spite them on purpose. I feel like they didnt understand part of the fanbase and were more hostile than they should have been.

The boys are pretty chill if u check them out. They are alright.

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>>51656982
>Why are male collabs so alluring to EN chuubas
They aren't. I never gave a second of my attention to a male-collabing roastie and my selection of the highest quality vtubers still seems endless. The biggest vtuber in the world never paid a second of her attention to a homoshit parasites no matter how hard twitter trannies want to push this narrative and the rest of HoloEN is a waste of time

[Anonymous No.]

You make friends with someone on discord then want to collab with them but your insane fanbase of stinky losers doesn't like it.

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>>51656982
Because men are actually funny

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>>51689550
>You make friends with someone on discord
this is already wrong, and those stinky fans, are the only reason "you" have a job.
Don't worry, collab with your friend, they'll just find someone else better and more respectful to watch and then ask your "friend" to support you.

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>>51678170
And yet the least popular girls are also the ones who collab with stars, roberu literally gets more viewers then matsuri at this point

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>>51687455
>>51679848
>>51674314
>They hated him for telling the truth

[Anonymous No.]

Nobody hates women more than women

[Anonymous No.]

>You now remember Kronii's entire arc with her fanbase started because she laughed

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>>51673747
Actual schizo.

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>>51692055
she laugh like she was having the best time of her life during the dbd collab, from a joke that came from a guy while she was mostly deadpan during previous collabs with the girls.

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>>51693825
it might have something to do with en girls being fucking boring

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>>51693825
>She had fun! FUN! It was so horrible to watch!
Wow some fans the girls have. No wonder most of them hate their jobs.

[Anonymous No.]

They are really lonely women hitting their 30s and they want to talk to men who share the same interests in anime.

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>>51673747
this anon isunironically correct, if your gf is being 5x times more energetic, talkative and lively amongst other man that aren't (you) then you know it's time to move on.

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>>51694336
Buncha entitled shits, those.

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>>51656982
People like hanging out with each other regardless of gender. Anons please find yourself some friends, I'm not telling you to become a pure normalfag but please find yourself friends who like the stuff you do and talk and socialize with them.

I'm not joking when I say it's going to fix the majority of your problems. Even internet friends are fine as long as you'll get into a close relationship with them.

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>>51656982
"gamer" girls only got into the hobby because they had males they wanted to impress in high school.
after failing to get into college, they decided that want to scale up their pickme into a global gangbang and start streaming.
those who are not hot enough to be egirls become chuubas.
but then they have to deal with "unfortunately idol culture is a thing"

THEIR ORIGINAL AND SOLE MOTIVATION WAS TO IMPRESS DICKS, YOU'RE IN THEIR WAY

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>>51656982
>vtuber collabs with vtuber
>"Why do they do it?"
It's not them who's obsessed with males vs. females. It's you. Gender segregation is only normal in changing rooms, showers and toilets. I know /vt/ is a shithole, but you're not supposed to take that literally.

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Men and women cannot be just friends

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>>51656982

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>>51656982
Most women are heterosexual.

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>>51700329
https://youtu.be/iEV_pQIf3Og

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>>51656982
you want the real answer?
female male relationships are not the same as female female.
female female will do gay shit with eachother but its rarely because theyre gay, theyre almost always just friends.
meanwhile with female male, even if just friends, theres a natural want to be closer to the opposite sex, both socially and for protection.
the latter is especially true for commonly sought after women, who will make friends with stronger males to deter creeps and stalkers.

so basically, one of the reasons theyre becoming friendly with males is because they want the protection from there demanding fans as a means of deterrence, which is honestly fair when this thread even exists.
>>51689788
>the only reason "you" have a job
okay karen tell that to the subway employee when they refuse to interact with you because youre asking them to cum in the sandwich.
the company is why they have a job, not you.
you may be the reason theyre hiring people but that doesnt mean individuals have to adhere to your every demand.
stop being an entitled karenfag.

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>>51656982
>Kronii and the blue fag she never collabed with
Huh?

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>>51704171
He was literally her first homo collab and caused her first shipping drama

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>>51656982
Women like talking to men. Shocking!

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>>51656982
men are funnier than women

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>>51685641
What the fuck is even- just look at her fucking schedule. There's no way this is not a bot post.

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>>51686102
Their content/interest/games don't overlap. So probably never unless it's a huge group collab with a party game.

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>>51694336
"no fun allowed" but unronically

[Anonymous No.]

You people need Jesus

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>>51673747
as much as people will call this schizo I think youre right in the real reason so many of kronii's fans freaked out was because of how different her entire persona became. Bae isnt any different when collabing with guys or girls and mori is slighty more upbeat when collabing with vesper and magni but that could just be chalked up to to getting along with them better regardless of gender. However with kronii its kind of insane how much happier and interactive she is when collabing with males. She laughs way more, she speaks louder, she always tries to stay engaged in conversations going on. She really proved that holostars en was changing things and that pissed of a lot of hololive fans who despite all the shit posting on here seemed pretty ok with them since they were there own thing.

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>>51692055
>>51694336
holy strawman. she was laughing and having more fun then she ever was with any girl. if she just acted like her normal depressed e girl persona her fans wouldnt have freaked out. its not about the laugh itself its about her personality doing a 180

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>>51710629
Bro, a lot of women just straight up do not like talking to other women and prefer hanging out with men whenever possible. This is especially true of girls who are tomboys or just less hyper feminine in general. That doesn't mean they're fucking those guys, they just prefer having male friends. It's not even slightly unusual.

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>>51712614
>it doesnt mean they're fucking those guys
yes it does girls who hang out with guys because its "less drama" or "girls are mean to them" are all sluts dont like tv shows or manga fool you. they are fucking tons of guys and the other more feminine hate the "tomboys" probably because the girl was hiting on there boyfriends. kronii collab streams with men really prove that shes was a homewreaker and defiantly went after guys who had girlfriends

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>>51656982
>you can't tell ME what to do
>oh yeah? you don't like it when I collab with men? well FUCK YOU I'll collab with all them men and there's nothing you can do about it
The idea of being rebellious can be found in all form of media, kids are led to believe being defiant is cool, so because a lot of people are against male collabs, this makes it all the more alluring to do it

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>>51685134
It might be a genuine unicorn that has nothing else in their life except to die alone of old age. Or a shitstirrer that's just here to lower the level of discourse. In any event, all you can really do is follow the rules. I do suspect a lot of this could be mitigated if /vt/ became a general board.

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>>51712614
let me give you some red flags for girls, if she has only guy friends or as this anon put it >>51712614
hang out with guys because its "less drama" it's a major red flag. don't let the cucks in this thread tell you otherwise

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>>51713381
>make /vt/ a hugbox
Go back faggot

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>>51710504
>pretty ok with them
This will always be cope man.
Before Tempus existed, anons unironically hated StarsJP, when Tempus came they were immediately met with hate and StarsJP got the target on their backs removed and goalposts moved to "oh we always liked them because they stayed in their lane"
Nice lie.

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>>51713503
Anon, the genderfluid thing wasn't enough of a redflag? Did everyone willfully close their eyes and ears and scream "ITS NOT REAL BECAUSE I SAID IT ISN'T!!"
There's a reason why fauna and mumei have red flags too and it isn't because of the friends they chose to make as vtubers.

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>>51656982
Non-shitpost answer?
Women are boring. Men want to befriend women because they want to fuck them, but women have no incentive to befriend other women.
If the possibility of sex was 100% taken out of the equation, both men and women would much rather hang out with men, than women.

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>>51656982
kys homo

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>>51693825
tell your girls to be funnier then?

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>>51715711
>implying it's about humor

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>>51713381
>a general board
Reddit seems to be more your speed, since you came from there.

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>>51716094
please get a real life girlfriend

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>>51656982
The average female vtuber is actually a femcel and doesn't have a boyfriend. Contrary to popular belief, this is a bad thing, because a vtuber with a boyfriend will keep it in her personal life and do her job properly but a femcel is always secretly hunting for men the same way that an incel is always secretly hunting for women.

Male collabs are a last ditch effort driven by a screaming womb to find a man in their available vicinity. A mating ritual performed at the blood sacrifice of viewership and the cost of their own dignity. Usually, it fails miserably, because it turns out that the average male vtuber is a menhera bitch. But the hope keeps driving them to believe that someday they'll get to lay their eggs.

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>>51716188
I wouldn't be on /vt/ of all places if I could get a gf

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>>51716210
hoshikawa was right the whole time the perfect gfe vtuber is an popular girl with ex boyfriends who knows how to control herself

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>>51716431
The ideal vtuber is a girl that has a long-term boyfriend or husband but is smart enough to keep her irl relationship separate from her stream persona
The worst possible vtuber is a whore that pretends to be a pure virgin
t. unicorn

[Anonymous No.]

how long are you going to keep insisting this is because they're women when it's a known fact that male vtubers are bigger whores than the women ever will be and constantly beg for collabs with female vtubers and try to groom smaller indies while also trying to be bfe and appeal to their fujo audience? The males have always been bigger whores and bigger menheras. I say this as someone who hates whores and male collabs

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>>51717669
It's fine when men do it idiot
A key that opens any lock is great
A lock that opens for any key is worthless

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>>51717888
You have to be 18 or older to post here

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>>51716872
>t. unicorn
No you are just a cuck
unicorn=/= wanting gfe

[Anonymous No.]

Can we all just agree that 4chan, Twitter, Discord, Reddit, Crystal Cafe, and Kiwifarms are not the best place to discuss Vtubers?
Wouldn't a public face to face discussion about Vtubers force everyone to have measured and thoughtful responses?
I know for a fact that many of you are less aggressive in person than online as you know you're are not the best at explaining your thoughts in reality. In the virtual space, you can think and have plenty of time to bring out your thoughts, but in the real world you fail to do that.