/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

>"her views are low haha"
>channal rakes in $1 million each year
Explain numberkeks

[Anonymous No.]

>>51555086
link?

[Anonymous No.]

Revenue != profit dumbass

[Anonymous No.]

Holy shit look at all those numbers

[Anonymous No.]

>>51555086
thats just estimated rev from regular ads

[Anonymous No.]

>>51555086

[Anonymous No.]

Cover pays out 34M USD to all 75 of their talents each year. that's around 450k USD average, ~16M USD of that are from streaming revenues
That 1M USD rev figure is split evenly after YT cuts between Cover and the talent which means she gets around 500k USD which is only slightly above average despite being amongst complete shitters like the ID branch and holostars.
compared just to holoJP/holoEN the average quickly goes up to 700-800k USD, which makes that number arguably below average.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51555086
That shit ain't accurate retard.
And nobody said she dosent make money, her ep top charts in japan but she gets lower viewership now and that's a fact, also most of her views come from music.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51555410
Oh wow, you're so good with math

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>51555086
I make more

[Anonymous No.]

>>51556561
Prove it

[Anonymous No.]

>>51556630
nah

[Anonymous No.]

>>51556647
I meant I make more shit up

[Anonymous No.]

>>51555086
>Income 34.6k in the last 90 days
>1 million a year
Anon?

[Anonymous No.]

Those are views from her songs mostly, and they're lower than they were
Any numberfag who thinks any Holo is doing bad is retarded. But they're all doing worse and worse

[Anonymous No.]

>>51556647
Ok, liar

[Anonymous No.]

>>51555086
I always knew I was betting on a winning horse

[Anonymous No.]

>>51556709
Why do you keep doing this? Are you a redditor? Do you think this is funny? Do you have autism? Are you retarded?

[Anonymous No.]

>>51555370
Wasn't that because Mori is a dumbass and paid taxes twice when she didn't have to?

[Anonymous No.]

>>51556702
>>51556662

[Anonymous No.]

>>51556762
She wasn't actually paying that much in taxes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51556739
what are you even going on about you crazy horse

[Anonymous No.]

>>51556762
Yes normally a Hololive talent should get around $15-$20 post taxes out of a $100 superchat
Mori is messing up big time by ending on $7

[Anonymous No.]

>>51556739
Would you say he's beating a dead horse.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51555086
channal

[Anonymous No.]

>>51555086
You're right she should drop off even harder

[Anonymous No.]

>>51555086
>Estimate based on bullshit
Meanwhile it's a cold hard fact that her CCV is dropping hard and doesn't show any signs of recovering. Despite her spamming open VC streams these past weeks. Having the other holos on her stream is the only thing keeping her above 3k.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51556960
Poor bae just didn't wanna be there yesterday lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>51556960
So? She is still in hololive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51557053
unfortunate for us

[Anonymous No.]

>>51556762
>>51556904
https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/10391362?hl=en&sjid=7107327366765861788-NA

Honestly this should be required reading. Mori is either a retard that can’t do math or a liar.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51557460
>Mori is either a retard that can’t do math or a liar.
I trust her to be both

[Anonymous No.]

>>51557460
Why not both?

[Anonymous No.]

>>51557460
She was a retard who was paying (or was thinking about paying) double taxes. She eventually got a tax consultant to do her taxes for her and everything ended up well.
That's why she went from thinking about moving back to the US to buying a house in Tokyo

[Anonymous No.]

>>51557460
She get's payed through Cover, Youtube's tax policy wasn't relevant to her misunderstanding.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51555086
>Net worth is not yearly income
This is all the money she should currently have from youtube after nearly 3 years and it’s a range.
>Based on current numbers her yearly is 136kish
This is the actual estimated based on her “numbers” which is also wrong. Social blade counts music, videos, shorts and vods equally as 1 vod view which isn’t right. Shorts are worth nothing, music is worth nothing, and her vods are not even a third of the number. And this is all without cuts.
Unless her members are doing great like 6k+ her youtube income is piss poor especially for 2 million subs and her lifestyle.

If you want to be happy she’s going broke she’s not Hololive pays out more than enough to keep that from happening, but she’s definitely not flying high anymore she took on a raid sponsor, she’s trying more tourist friendly games, and she’s been avoiding superchat/twitter melt downs. So while far from broke it’s gotten noticeable

[Anonymous No.]

>>51556739
are you talking to yourself anon?

[Anonymous No.]

>>51555086
>Trying to #fag but failing.
Typical cuckbeat.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51555086
Socialblade estimates are worthless.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51557872
>>51557825
1. YouTube tax withholding is the exact same as a job withholding your taxes it’s for you. They even send you the amount they withheld during tax season so you can fill it out correctly. It’s also separated between American and Global depending on where your channel is located.
2. Cover either has them as an employee or contractor. Which means they do the withholding (which is doesn’t make sense for her point) or they’re given the lump sum and have to deal with the taxes themselves.
3. If she’s paying her taxes ahead of time like this it would mean she’s doing it for Ad rev, Members, and superchats which is all income. Not even going to get into that it could all be one check or two separate checks from cover but members/superchats are definitely together

There is no logical way to only separate the superchats and then do the math for only that. Even hololyzer and playboard doesn’t work because they don’t record supers given during members. Ergo she’s bad at math, or a liar. Some people say both. Well there’s the possibility that the people here are changing the context

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>>51557962
I'm sure here 12 other sources of income are really gonna be crying im sure. That sold out concert in 2 weeks on not mori is really hurting her. Retards, and the 3 houses she's got, 2 in Central Tokyo is definitely poor moment isn't it. Chud

[Anonymous No.]

Just watch the chuubas you find funny, who cares about noombers?

[Anonymous No.]

>>51558921
Nooooooo I must tell everyone how poor she is and all her numbers are going down. DONT WATCH

[Anonymous No.]

>>51558806
Cuckbeat enjoy yourself her wins are yours to I guess

[Anonymous No.]

>>51558983
NOOOO I must tell everyone how rich she is and how numbers don't matter. PLEASE WATCH

[Anonymous No.]

>>51558921
I dislike Mori and would like to see her fail
Simple as

[Anonymous No.]

>>51559052
>>51559064
The fact she mogs every single en in monthly vod views by almost 4x makes you squeamish doesn't it. Best part is she doesn't have to stream. She's still near the top too for ccv. Keep feeding me that delicious dopamine while you're sat here

[Anonymous No.]

>>51559142
Well looks like you're gonna be stuck here

[Anonymous No.]

>>51559158
>Continues to #fag incorrectly
Why are you still trying cuckbeat?

[Anonymous No.]

>>51559261
>incorrectly
Ahahhaahhaha how about still being top of en in supers while kiara slaves away with almost double the stream time and she's still not caught her. How about the 30 1 million songs she's got. How about the umg contract. I can keep going if you like and know how much she makes you see red

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>>51559206
Yeah I'm not one of those delusional guys that think she'll graduate over the next yab or next drop in numbers. Hololive is a golden goose and she'll stick around for it
But at least I can talk shit about her on /vt/ and her ongoing decline in popularity makes me a little bit happy

[Anonymous No.]

>>51556762
>Wasn't that because Mori is a dumbass and paid taxes twice when she didn't have to?
As a US citizen you are forced to pay taxes to the USA no matter what your country of residence is.
No other country save like 2 of them do this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51559348
You can got to # and see her ccv is inclining but I'm sure you won't

[Anonymous No.]

>>51559482
yeah I don't go to /#/

[Anonymous No.]

>>51559348
Watching deadbeats lose their minds and running damage control because her CCV is dropping fast is hilarious.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51559514
Do you live in your own delusions ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>51559482
>IT'S INCLINING
>IGNORE HOW VIEWERS LEAVE WHEN THERE'S NO OTHER HOLO IN HER OPEN VC

[Anonymous No.]

>>51559514
Nobody is losing their minds.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51556739
Neeeeigggh

[Anonymous No.]

>>51559514
Yes deadbeats are a pathetic fanbase
They cope harder than anyone else

[Anonymous No.]

>51555086
MOST

[Anonymous No.]

>>51559622
Okay I have a question.
What is your problem with deadbeats?

[Anonymous No.]

>>51559586
>posts 2 holos who will never have as a successful career as mori
Roru

[Anonymous No.]

>>51559654
>What is your problem with deadbeats?
They are a pathetic fanbase that copes harder than anyone else
I just told you man

[Anonymous No.]

>>51559661
IRyS is doing perfectly fine tho?

[Anonymous No.]

>>51559661
Irys has higher CCV than Mori and Kiara's ccv has been higher in June.
In fact, irys joining Mori's open vc on Minecraft made Irys' viewership drop until Mori left and people came back. Same for Kobo. Having Mori on your stream is a debuff.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51559745
And she will have moris success no matter how hard she tries

[Anonymous No.]

>>51559714
Why do you care though?

[Anonymous No.]

>>51559818
Mori could graduate and irys still wouldn't come close to moris success. Cumrystocrats seething

[Anonymous No.]

>>51559818
Letting SEA continue to exist is a debuff to humanity. Now do the needful and end yourself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51559818
i want you to trade stocks so you can lose all your money believing in technical analysis astrology, you fucking nutjob

[Anonymous No.]

>>51559866
>>51559892
>>51559953
>Seethe when confronted with hard facts they can't refute

[Anonymous No.]

>>51559158
>Near the top
>The list doesn't have Gura, Mumei or IRyS
I meant, yeah, if you cut out 3 out of top 5 HoloEN members because of their health issues, I guess others can get "near the top" too
Look, deadbeat anon. I have nothing against Mori and I DO think she is super successful. However, you aren't doing her a favor by intentionally presenting data like this. Even the ones went "Her viewership dropped but her music is still making money just fine" in this thread did a better job defending her

[Anonymous No.]

>>51559866
Dumbass you do realize irys always have more view then mori to song mori is a waste compare to irys just graduate her

[Anonymous No.]

>>51559953
It's a seething ex deadbeat like most irystocrats who meltdown that her music is failing just look at her idol cover compared to mori

[Anonymous No.]

>>51559853
we unfortunately share a board

[Anonymous No.]

>>51560094
So you want them out of here?

[Anonymous No.]

>>51560094
You're free to leave anytime.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51559377
USA usually gives foreign tax credits

[Anonymous No.]

>>51560094
Ahhahshahahhah he gives a fuck about 4chan. The fact that mori makes you seethe is amazing

[Anonymous No.]

>>51559828
>>51559866
Look at this dirtbag behavior, this is why people hate deadbeats
Shitting on other people's oshi to show how your oshi is the most super successful even when every reasonable /vt/ users knows that's not the case
IRyS is performing well and she's a good girl who doesn't deserve deadbeats talking trash about her
You numberfag about everyone if it helps showing off that your oshi is the most viewed, highest earning, best selling holo by some made up metric but you do a 180 and decry numberfagging when it shows that Mori is a debuff or that other holos are doing better than her

[Anonymous No.]

>>51560137
No they can stay but I'd like them to act less like obnoxious faggots

[Anonymous No.]

>>51560270
You're free to leave.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51560316
So are you
You won't be missed

[Anonymous No.]

>>51555370
That graph was made by a retard who got his numbers wrong.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51560270
Yeah that's the stuff, seethe cumrystocrat. It's just too easy to shit on her. Cover tried to make another mori with the music and failed. Pathetic

[Anonymous No.]

SEA bros, how did we let the pink woman beat us?
Are we really subhuman failures like most of this board believes?

[Anonymous No.]

>>51560344
Nah. I'm good. Guess you have to learn to live with Deadbeats then. Maybe find a healthy coping mechanism, I bet that will help.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51560388
>Maybe find a healthy coping mechanism
Deadbeats telling others to cope in a healthy way is extremely ironic

[Anonymous No.]

>>51560479
Shitting up the catalog constantly isn't going to earn you any friends.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51560527
Another extremely ironic comment from a deadbeat
Do you fags have no self-awareness?

[Anonymous No.]

>>51560582
Deadbeats don't shit up the catalog though.
Oh, did you fall for t.deadbeat meme?

[Anonymous No.]

>>51560582
Where are the Deadbeat threads? Please link them here.

[Anonymous No.]

MORI NUMBER 1
BEST SUPERCHATS
BEST CCV
BEST MUSIC
OTHER GIRLS SUCK

[Anonymous No.]

>>51560645
>Deadbeats don't shit up the catalog though.
lol
lmao
Deadbeats shit up the catalog and every thread they enter. No fanbase slings more shit than you fags

[Anonymous No.]

>>51560768
Ogey

[Anonymous No.]

>>51556739
>Do you think this is funny?
yes
>Do you have autism?
where do you think you are
>Are you retarded?
where do you think you are

[Anonymous No.]

>>51557085
fortunate for me

[Anonymous No.]

>>51559348
Anon, seek therapy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51559745
lol
lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>51562129
for what? Disliking someone on the internet?

[Anonymous No.]

>>51555370
lol, i love that you have this saved to make people with any tax knowledge seethe

[Anonymous No.]

Why do people even hate mori?

[Anonymous No.]

>>51555579
yes
but I'm no numberfag
I simply jump into threads without reading and champion one side or the other with inflammatory comments on a whim

[Anonymous No.]

>>51566261
as per that long list post that keeps being pasted, it's cause of significant reasons
like thanking superchats in early collabs

[Anonymous No.]

>>51555086
website?

[Anonymous No.]

>>51555086
I also make somewhere between $1 and $1M a year. I'm a bit of a millionaire myself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51555086
fake

[Anonymous No.]

>Mori is still making people seethe in 2023
kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>51555370
Taxes are a scam

[Anonymous No.]

>>51557460
She gets paid by cover, not google directly

[Anonymous No.]

>>51558921
Uhh,
You’re stupid . some reply “based” to shut this dweeb up please

[Anonymous No.]

I just love that I came here to see people talking shit about someone getting millions as "Not successful"
Also CCV and aka isn't their main income, remember they get 40% share for merch sales and she also get money from music sales and of course the biggest money maker for musicians: Concert.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51555217
Do you understand how small the overhead for a company vtuber is? They're practically pure profit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>51566261
She keep going back and forth between the abrasive style streaming and the ideal anime girlfriend streaming, basicaly pissing of both audience because both hate each other as much as burgers democrat and republican do.