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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6Y8Fhsrang
Why is she less popular then the other girls?

>> No.5109733

>>5109599
She’s the most popular, according to my raging hardon.

>> No.5109771

>>5109599
Because EN is stacked and she had no chance. Shes higher than half of JP, she's plenty popular.

>> No.5110049

>>5109599
She used to be third, then fourth, then fifth.
Ina was the least popular for most of the time.
Guess she just got worse.

>> No.5110307

>>5109599
She tries too hard. Not in a bad way but she's the embodiment of hard work does not pay off

>> No.5110485

>>5109599
Because she keeps talking about how she's less popular than the other girls.

>> No.5110515

>>5109599
She's a bad streamer, just like she's bad at everything else

>> No.5110573

Pity Party
https://youtu.be/Gln-E9L0U2w
She’s a Scat Fan
https://youtu.be/Pt8k0ChNDmg

>> No.5110593

Because the other girls are just that good, her group is stacked with talent.

>> No.5110663

She clearly plays a lot of games that her audience don't want to watch. Over 7hr long RPG streams and she just barely breaks 4k live viewers and over 100k accrued views. She didn't have this problem before the move, but after, she said fuck it and played whatever she wanted, not caring about a balance between popular games to support playing the niche ones every once in a while. I feel she does this intentionally so she has something to talk about if people bring it up.

>> No.5110673

She can’t take a joke
https://youtu.be/NS3_sNTwIRw&t=5295
Loudly mocks her genmate’s emotions
https://youtu.be/gKL9xv2VykM&t=4783

>> No.5110704

Her voice is grating. She'll incline if she drops the stupid chicken voice

>> No.5110843

>>5110307
She tries too hard in the wrong way. When literally all you care about is the number of subs you have and which time proven gimmicks you can shit out to make that number go up, it shows. She's also just really fucking annoying, I have no idea how her fanbase watches her.
>Accent causes my ears to bleed
>Gets legitimately angry at chat every stream even when they're obviously joking
>Has had more "heavy talk" streams than every other EN member combined (I'm pretty sure none of them have)
>Her design is really not anything special
>Constantly trying to one-up everyone else (had a gun prop not even 24 hours after Ame's new outfit reveal)
>Legitimately thinks of herself as the bridge between JP and EN, which gives her a gargantuan ego
I hate her, seriously. I try not to spare too many negative emotions for vtubers because it's a complete waste of energy but I legitimately hate her and I was on cloud nine when Ina beat her to a million.

>> No.5110920

Her voice filters people.

>> No.5110945 [DELETED] 

>>5110843
>Accent causes my ears to bleed
Honestly her roommate voice is fine. A lot of girls pitch their chuuba voices differently, to varying quality, but Kiara really shouldn't, especially when she keeps it even during karaoke despite having a decent roommate singing voice.

>> No.5110955

I used to watch her, but her streaming hours now coincide with my sleep hours

>> No.5110985 [DELETED] 

>>5110955
Do you by any chance live in the geographic region lying to the south of China and to the east of India?

>> No.5111072

>>5110843
Well, for you to make these claims i'd assume you watch her quite often? I agree on most of them but I don't remember her having an ego for being a bridge.

>> No.5111090

Gearing up for the mystery collab, I see. The renewed hate campaign has begun

>> No.5111105

Austrians just aren't good artists

>> No.5111108 [DELETED] 

>>5110049
Kiara has almost always been dead last except for occasionally jumping ahead of Kiara for a couple days at a time.

>> No.5111133
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5111133

>>5110843
Ogey

>> No.5111152

>>5111108
>Kiara has almost always been dead last except for occasionally jumping ahead of Ina for a couple days at a time.
Fixed that for you.

>> No.5111165 [DELETED] 

>>5111152
Thanks

>> No.5111173

>>5110985
nah I used to sleep 3-5 hours before I got Covid, my endurance went down the drain after that so I need to sleep 6-8 hours now to function properly

>> No.5111225

>>5111090
Calli's "mystery" collab is Ironmouse, so if Kiara's also Vshojo then yeah get ready for the shitstorm.

>> No.5111266

>>5109599
Some people just don't have shitty taste.
That's why.

>> No.5111276

>>5110704
Not even a year in and her throat is starting to give up lmao, it won't be long before she drops that voice.

>> No.5111281

>>5110843
>Constantly trying to one-up everyone else (had a gun prop not even 24 hours after Ame's new outfit reveal)
I hope you're shitposting and not actually retarded, because she made the gun prop for her Yakuza stream. It was thematically relevant.
>Legitimately thinks of herself as the bridge between JP and EN, which gives her a gargantuan ego
Can you name someone else who is? Coco leaving, Haachama is on indefinite hiatus and doesn't do much EN content these days anyway. And she doesn't have a gargantuan ego about it, she's just proud of her 1 skill. God forbid

>> No.5111287

>>5110843
>Gets legitimately angry at chat every stream even when they're obviously joking

That's kind-of her shtick though.
"Angry tenchou abuses her employees" and so-on. It's like Haachama stepping on people but with slightly less of the overt sexualization.

It's also not every stream. Like her whole WoW stream was pretty chill, even though people specifically did the one thing she requested they not do. I think she was pretty calm on her Catlateral damage stream as well.

>Constantly trying to one-up everyone else (had a gun prop not even 24 hours after Ame's new outfit reveal)
Disagree about "one-upping", she just likes to have fun.
Also, she got shadowbanned right after her 2nd original came out, so she's been through a bit as she built her channel.

>> No.5111314

HoloEN was a mistake and thank god the one responsible for it graduates.
Ching chong ping pong ding dong China 1#

>> No.5111376

>>5110049
Ina had the most subs predebut, by a fair margin even. She also leads most of the shitty youtube community polls constantly. Kiara has been dead last in just about everything since debut, except for: >>5111152

>> No.5111393

>>5111287
>Disagree about "one-upping"
Just like when she blatantly stole the main thematic element from Gura’s new outfit, and ripped off Pekora’s laugh.

>> No.5111477

she's dumb and annoying
she checked every possible box at character creation - warrior phoenix idol with 3 hats and my own greeting call sound that nobody likes and she's also a fast food manager?
we're lucky she's easily avoidable because she's a level of annoying i will actively avoid

>> No.5111538 [DELETED] 

>>5111281
>I hope you're shitposting and not actually retarded, because she made the gun prop for her Yakuza stream. It was thematically relevant.
Just like when she posted this the same day Haachama got her lore ending cancelled and was on forced Hiatus.
Original:
https://youtu.be/m7Ud7Hn1-bI
Cheap Imitation:
https://youtu.be/u_YZ-5wUTdI

>> No.5111585

>>5109599
The voice

>> No.5111621

>>5110704
Exactly, i would give her a try if she dropped the voice

>> No.5111631

>>5111538
I mean, that was also the day her shadowban got lifted lol.

>> No.5111659

>>5111393
Gura's new outfit consists of.... cat ears. Gura is not entitled to having the only cat ears in the world.
>Pekora’s laugh
That I agree. I think she's just a sperg and tries to imitate the laugh because she thinks people like it and doesn't really understand.

>> No.5111661

>>5111393
Well Gura also stole that idea from... literally everyone? cat ears are so overused it annoys me.

>> No.5111675

>>5111281
>I hope you're shitposting and not actually retarded, because she made the gun prop for her Yakuza stream. It was thematically relevant.
Just like when she posted this, right after Haachama got her lore ending cancelled and was on forced Hiatus.
Original:
https://youtu.be/qbEdlmzQftE
Cheap Imitation:
https://youtu.be/u_YZ-5wUTdI

>> No.5111701

>>5111393
I mean, ultimately wouldn't that be up to the artists drawing / animating the ears? If they both wanted cat ears so be it.

*And Kiara's outfit reveal was 2 days before Gura's, so technically, she had the ears first*.

>> No.5111714

>>5109599
because she is a putrid boring chicken af

>> No.5111723

In a company where you have people who sound like babies and Mickey Mouse, having a streamer that sounds like she's talking TO babies at all times just gets annoying.

>> No.5111793 [DELETED] 

>>5111701
Gura’s outfit silhouette exist way before that shitbird stole her idea. Kiara stole everything she could from the more popular members.

>> No.5111814

>>5109599
>Why is she less popular then the other girls?
She keeps bitching about stuff with her annoying voice.

I watch vtubers to evade this shit, not to have it in my face. Put on headphones, isolate from real life shit and relax. Not to listen to some entitled euro cunt bitch about her not being treated like royalty.

Her fanbase is very toxic to boot.

>> No.5111833

>>5111701
Gura’s outfit silhouette existed way before that shitbird stole her idea. Kiara steals everything she can from the more popular members.

>> No.5111933

>>5111833
>Gura’s outfit silhouette existed way before that shitbird stole her idea.
And you really think the rigger made her cat ears after the silhouettes were announced because Kiara requested him to do so? I don't think you are aware on how long it takes to rig that shit.

>> No.5111937

>>5110673
I love it.

>> No.5111979

>>5111393
>"stole" cat ears
>fucking cat ears

>> No.5112006

Because she's the most HoloJP person among them, her streaming style is very similar ton theirs versus the other 4 girls who are basically just twitch streamers.
She's also pretty blunt and most of the virgins here don't like that, despite being loser faggots the retards here still think they can get a submissive girl.

>> No.5112056

>>5111833
Nigga do you understand the concept of time
These things start being made months ahead of time, no way huke drew ears and keffiy rigged them between gura's silhouette being shown and kiara's outfit stream

>> No.5112071

>>5111833
>Kiara stole her cat ears because of the silhouette
>Even though they had the outfits weeks prior.
Eggs SURELY can't be this retarded

>> No.5112137
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5112137

She even tried to steal the fucking meme review.

>> No.5112196

>>5112137
NOOOOO NOT THE REDDIT MEMES!

>> No.5112200

>>5109599
Chicken voice, design, early JP translations, more emotional than other EN members, all filter people. I really like Kiara and think she's probably the most gifted EN as a streamer, but I think she's just more niche than the others.

>> No.5112213

>>5112137
wow a fucking thief bitch

>> No.5112238

>>5109599
When EN was announced, Kiara was my #1 pick for who would be the best as I knew her history. I watched all her streams, thought she was great. But then she started crying on stream, and swearing like a sailor (compared to everyone else, she swears a ton even when it's not needed), and just seeing how her orbiters would try to hold her hand on everything just started turning me off. I tried to ignore that stuff, but then she made her Sims 4 stream and it got into creep territory with no way out. I tried coming back after a few months, and that was when she was in the Uno collab talking like a baby and wanting to shit on and in everything. I just can't enjoy anything she does now.

>> No.5112259 [DELETED] 

>>5111933
The fact that she requested knowing it was the main focus of Gura’s outfit doesn’t seem like a shitty thing to do? KFPhaggots will make excuses for anything instead of acknowledging this is clearly a pattern with this parasite.

>> No.5112300

>>5111933
>>5112056
>>5112071
The fact that she requested it knowing it was the main focus of Gura’s outfit doesn’t seem like a shitty thing to do? KFPhaggots will make excuses for anything instead of acknowledging this is clearly a pattern with this parasite.

>> No.5112331

>>5111833
This made me laugh thank you op, your retardation made my day

>> No.5112337

>>5112300
It's fucking cat ears you autistic sperg. Half of hololive has cat ears at this point.

>> No.5112346

Her voice is annoying, she makes every EN collab awkward and cringey, does passive-aggressive put downs to everyone but Calli, brings up drama on stream.

Am I missing anything?

>> No.5112366

>>5112300
Cat ears aren't some original thing fucking retard

>> No.5112403

>>5112300
Anon, the point is that even if she requested it there literally wouldn't be enough time for them to draw and rig cat ears and a tail in 4 days, that's not possible, at this point you're clearly baiting but fuck it.

>> No.5112407

>>5112137
For fucks sake, every time I try to tell someone that my oshi isn't as bad as she seems
>>5112196
You should try rope swinging with your neck

>> No.5112453

>>5112300
>main focus of Gura’s outfit
Is it the "main focus" of Kiara's new outfit?
Fuckin' straw-hat no.

If anything, ignoring the spergness of asserting she "stole" the idea from Gura (versus like 25% of common weeb memes), it's a gimmick she sometimes uses for fun.

>> No.5112456
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5112456

>Pekora’s laugh
>Coco’s Meme Review
>Haachama’s Prison Bars
>Gura’s Cat ears
>Ame’s Gun
It’s all just a coincidence, you SEA egg!!!!

>> No.5112467

>>5112407
>reddit memes

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>>5109599
Kiara is a great streamer and entertainer but damn, if there is a choice to be made, you can be 100% sure that she is going to take the wrong one:
>horrible green/orange color theme.
>two hats.
>convoluted design (sword and shield).
>streamed immediately after debuting while being extremely tired and low energy.
>holo((((EN)))) yet she went with the bilingual shit of saying the same shit twice in english and jap.
>stream in jap time competing with tons of holojaps.
>never does anything that mix her chat and the restaurant shit even when she has one of the most loyal (and larpers) fucks in hololive.
>a fucking japanese name for fuck sake, holo-fucking-EN and she went with a fucking jap name, (ninomae ina sounds pretty westerner).
>took her MONTHS to settle on a timeslot to stream.
>constantly pick debuff games and austistically plays them for months, making a huge wall for newcomers who see her playing some shit like fire emblem part #143.
>Never sings in ENGLISH and only sings slow shit (she hates hinotori for being too fast and hype) that is only popular with women while her main audience are men.
>Finally her big break, the a new outfit + the reveal and what does she do? pick a fucking boring farmer outfit (that even gura, the biggest farmfag in hololive didnt end using) AND even thought the outfit had tons of accessories she chose to put in the silhouette the fucking farmhat spoiling the shit in the first second, killing any hype and mystery about.

Kiara really needs someone to keep her in check and help her to make better decisions, just like Ina, who have a low tolerance to drama and shit have AO-chan keeping an eye to spammers and shitheads.

>> No.5112503

>>5112456
>Gura cat ears
Too many retards in here acting like Kiara stole some amazing original idea from Gura. This is why Kiara antis are a laughing stock.

>> No.5112514

>>5112485
>two hats
fucking lmao

>> No.5112531

>>5109599
Being a whiny bitch with a constant inferiority complex is definitely a part of it.

>> No.5112581

>>5109599
than*

>> No.5112582

She's like death metal or rap, plenty of people like those genres, but people who don't like those genres can not tolerate to hear them even a little bit. While other genres that I don't really care for I can at least tolerate to listen to.

I really can't fucking stand her voice and the way she acts most of the time.

>> No.5112583

>>5112503
Yeah that’s the only thing she stole, alright retard.
>>5112456

>> No.5112585

>>5112238
>and swearing like a sailor (compared to everyone else, she swears a ton even when it's not needed)
It's kind of this for me. I don't mind my idols swearing or making lewd jokes, but it really doesn't feel like it's a natural part of her personality and she does it because she thinks it will make people like her more. Talking about drama and numbers while streaming games I don't care about for 10 hours is enough to make me just not want to watch her, but bringing down collabs with her fakeness is totally different and makes me lean towards not liking her when I don't really think she's done anything wrong. She just has a misguided idea of what's entertaining

>> No.5112614

>>5112456
Not a KFP but none of those are original except for meme review

>> No.5112637

>>5112485
desu i'd like to see more holo mems stream niche shit. just look at Ame playing Oblivion because she likes it, that sorta stuff is great. Or we could watch resident evil 7 and 8 plathrough for the 800th time.

>> No.5112639

>>5112583
We aren't talking about the other shit she stole, I'm calling you a retard for accusing her of "stealing" cat ears. Fucking dumbass.

>> No.5112681

>>5112614
Things don't have to be original to that person for you to steal them from them.

If you start saying some kind of phrase a bunch and then your retarded little brother or the annoying weird guy in your friend group keeps repeating it too simply because you're saying it, they are still copying you, regardless of whether or not it was a phrase that you invented yourself.

>> No.5112695

>>5109599
If she stopped whining about being last and didn't keep doing that higher pitched voice she would jump to 3rd almost instantly.

>> No.5112719

>>5112514
lmao 2hat

>> No.5112809

>>5112637
>see more holo mems stream niche shit.

Agreed! This is where I think Kiara specifically, and people like Ina, Ollie, Reine, and Ame shine.

You want to watch Apex for the 1,337th time,
or everyone play the current hotness all at once, have fun on Twitch.

I'm trying to watch some variety, or at least a progressive story (which is where EN Minecraft comes in).

>> No.5112840

a combination of the fact that she's ESL and tryhard in terms of numbers makes her come across as less genuine than her genmates

>> No.5112858

>>5112637
I agree. But Kiara has the least accessible streams of the ENs and at the same time complains about her numbers. If she did her own thing off in the corner and never made any noise about it people on this board would simply ignore her, but her antics and personality invite antis

>> No.5112902

>>5112681
>>5112456
Still though, none of these things are even worth mentioning as "stealing".
>Pekora's laugh
Yep, I agree lol.
>Coco's Meme Review
She only reviews memes for special events, such as getting banned from YT and valentine' day, not quite the same thing.
>Haachama's Prison Bars
That was only because she got her shadowban lifted.
>Gura's cat ears.
... Cat ears lol.
>Ame's Gun
I don't know if she personally requested it on stream AFTER her outfit reveal, but it was for her Yakuza streams, she now has like... what? 30 weapons?
The only thing you could argue that she actually took was Ame's legs, but she was clearly not the only one who copied it lol.

>> No.5112951

You guys are forgetting that Kiara is the tyupe of girl to fuck a dog

>> No.5113075

>>5112951
Very cool opinion, niggerchama.

>> No.5113082

>>5112951
So are Ame and Calli

>> No.5113173

>>5112951
Nah that's Ame. Kiara is just a sexually deprived carpet muncher

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>> No.5113311

>>5109599
Than not then.

>> No.5113373

>>5113173
Is she actually gay though, or is she just playing it up for the schtick?

>> No.5113379

>>5110843
Her accent is fine.
She's just INCREDIBLY LOUD!
She's like Ollie but she plays jrpgs which are far more boring to watch than Apex.

>> No.5113444

>>5113373
All women are bi

>> No.5113466

>>5110307
>try hards on a valentines day song
>get's confused when people stop listening to it after February

>> No.5113469

>>5109599
I don't know why people here hate her so much, I find her to be very genuine. I like women who wear their heart on their sleeve. She can be grating sometimes but she has a good soul I think.

>> No.5113474

>>5109599
My guess is her voice when matched with the high energy. When she talks normally it's actually quite nice. Or it's maybe an acquired taste now.

>> No.5113477

>>5113373
She's not gay, she has me as her boyfriend. We have copious amounts of sex.

>> No.5113561

>>5113469
She gives off a little too much high-maintenance Stacy energy for the type of people who browse this board.

>> No.5113695

>>5113561
Stacy? I am convinced you people don’t even know what that means anymore. You have claimed it with no evidence to support it. More like insecure pity party numberfag.
https://youtu.be/Gln-E9L0U2w
Perhaps people just don’t like ESL scat fetishists with a speech impediment.
https://youtu.be/Pt8k0ChNDmg

>> No.5113756

>>5113469
>I don't know why people here hate her so much
>She can be grating
does ur brain not work properly?

>> No.5113820

>>5113756
Grating is a not a dealbreaker for liking/loving someone. Maybe that's not the best word choice I dunno

>> No.5113930

>>5113695
She's usually the most extroverted and loud during collabs and is often pretty blunt with what's on her mind. This is run of the mill Stacy behavior and it triggers the dweebs here who only want a quiet and autistic girl.

>> No.5113999

>>5113469
I have shown people a clip of her, that know absolutely nothing of Hololive and their immediate reaction is,
>oh my god, she sounds so fake!
So if you think she is genuine the real world is going to destroy you, you gullible fucking rube. Better get used to paying for it.

>> No.5114033

>>5113930
Ogey,
https://youtu.be/NS3_sNTwIRw&t=5295

>> No.5114077

>>5113930
Girls aren’t loud to show dominance, that’s just called being ignorant regardless of gender. The loudest person in the room is usually the dumbest.

>> No.5114115

>>5113820
There are plenty of streamers and vtubers that I don't really care for, but I can still watch if they are doing something I'm interested in or are collabing with someone I like watching. She however is irritating to the point that it affects my ability to enjoy such collabs/content that she is doing. Grating is a perfectly fine word for it. I doubt many people who are not fans of people like Gura or Ina would find the need to turn off a stream if their favourite streaming was streaming with one of them.

I can see the appeal to Kiara, but she's hard to tolerate if you don't actually like her.

>> No.5114134

>>5114033
Frankly, I thought the thing was a bit. The original Takamori ship was a little soap opera.

But also, that's 6 months old, get some new seed if you want chickens to bite.

>> No.5114178

>>5109599
02:03:37 Mori hate Thread is posted
04:40:23 Kiara Hate Thread is posted
Coincidence? I don’t think so

>> No.5114183

>>5113695
>Whines about having more subs than all the Holostars combined
>>5109599
This is why.

>> No.5114245

>>5113930
Kiara clams up hard when in the presence of JP girls so you can put your retard argument to rest right there. Furthermore, being loud is not an indicator of alpha behaviour. Being loud at the wrong times and yelling over people you think are beneath you is complete beta behaviour. JP collabs can get loud as fuck but there is not a single girl in that entire branch that will actively shout over someone else who is trying to speak unless it's Among Us, which is half the point of the game.

>> No.5114262

>>5112238
What happened on her sims 4 stream?

>> No.5114284

>>5114262
she forgot to hide her powerlevels anon

>> No.5114290

>>5113373
She's otome road, BL loving kind. Just like local 13 yo animu kid shipping anyone with anything for the fantasy of it.

>> No.5114353

>>5114033
I don't really care about clips. I'm basing this information off of the countless times this board has lost it's shit over Kiara doing something "obnoxious" or "annoying" that turned out to just be some asinine peppy Stacy shit. It's clearly the dominant image she has here that overpowers any other possible images.

>> No.5114372

>>5113999
There is a fake-y tone to her voice but she says plenty of things that aren't fake and is very blunt. So your friends are kind of shallow themselves if they simply hear someone's voice and think they can determine their character

>> No.5114404

I don't hate her I just don't find "high-school cheerleader/popular girl" to be an interesting personality for a character. She's just someone I can't connect with or enjoy watching at all

>> No.5114441

>>5114284
Dont be like that. What happened?

>> No.5114453

>>5114262
Wicked Whims level of disgusting retardation.

>> No.5114483

>>5114441
this>>5114290

>> No.5114625

>>5114483
So she made her sims characters kiss? Bit of a disspointed.

>> No.5114682

>>5109599
A Holo's viewers are mostly boys who like her personality. They were always just going to be stuck with whoever likes them as a person, and plenty do like Kiara.

>> No.5114706

>>5114245
You clearly have some PUA sigma male grindset view on what it means to be "alpha". Kiara isn't indulging in "beta behavior", she's not even being annoying. She's literally just a textbook Stacy and this brings up repressed high school memories for people like you or something that causes her to get a lot of hate on this board. I'm not the only one who thinks so >>5112006 >>5114404

>> No.5114790

>>5114453
Her paypigs love it, but it filters the normalfags. She has learned to filter herself during collabs at least.

>> No.5114835

>>5114353
She is just rude, there is no reason to be proud of that.
https://youtu.be/gKL9xv2VykM&t=4783

>> No.5114882

>>5114372
As hard is may be for you to believe but I actually showed the shitbird to a real life woman.

>> No.5114958

>>5114835
How exactly is she being rude here? By asking Gura if she'd written something? This is just how women like her are, she's not actively trying to be rude.

>> No.5115005

Worst voice, worst design, least personality.

>> No.5115043

>>5114706
Being conversationally loud is not a characteristic of a cheerleader it is actually more synonymous with the stereotypically loud cackling niggerish behavior. So acting like a stereotypical nigger is not considered Stacy behavior, in fact most people cringe when they see a white person act like that. Unless you are dumb white trash from the south then they all act like that.

>> No.5115070

>>5110573
She is not a scatologists she is German

>> No.5115073

>>5114958
The loud obnoxious fake crying she did to mock her. It’s painful to listen to.

>> No.5115177

>>5109599
Well she is just mediocre at everything which makes her streams boring while her genmates excel in a particular field which make viewers keep coming back to their streams and are popular than her

>> No.5115192

>>5115043
This doesn't even work in your favor. Ame and Gura are by all means "white trash" but they consistently play into the shy and autistic archetype without issue. Kiara is literally from Austria.

>>5115073
It's loud and overdone but she isn't trying to be rude. That's just how a Stacy is.

>> No.5115372

>>5115192
You have never met a cheerleader in your life, and apparently have never even seen one in a movie. Any one who talks that loud is considered ignorant trash no matter what race you are.

>> No.5115519

This is basic knowledge everyone knows this shit.

“He who knows, does not speak. He who speaks, does not know.”
Lao Tzu

https://medium.com/swlh/being-the-loudest-person-in-the-room-doesnt-make-you-the-leader-957b7e29fef1

>> No.5115522

>>5115372
Are you basing off your image of a cheerleader off of some retarded anime or something? Not everyone is an autistic mute like you, and especially not the Stacy cheerleader types who live vicariously through the loud excitement of live concerts, parties, and sporting events. You also say all of this as if she's screaming out every other sentence and as if it isn't somehow warranted one way or another by a reaction to the game or stream. She really doesn't even scream that much. Might you just be a clipnigger?

>> No.5115535

Her singing is shit. I like it though.

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>Eggs getting uppity again
>KFP takes the bait
Nothing new here, move on ppl.

>> No.5115654

>>5115522
>Stacy cheerleader types who live vicariously through the loud excitement of live concerts, parties, and sporting events.
You literally just strung those words together while imagining a caricature that doesn’t exist. If anyone is living in a fantasy world it’s you. The popular cheerleader type cares about their image and doesn’t go around speaking super loud and making an embarrassing spectacle of themselves. They are quietly judging the retard that acts like that, that’s how they stay popular.

>> No.5115716

Cause she and cali are vshojo girls

>> No.5115729

>>5109599
I don't like her *shrug*

>> No.5115787

>>5115522
Way to out yourself as an incel by even using the term “Stacy”, faggot.
https://incels.wiki/w/Stacy
Kiara is a fucking Becky anyways.
https://www.dictionary.com/e/karen-vs-becky-vs-stacy/

>> No.5115835

>>5115654
This is pretty delusional. Cheerleaders aren't the western version of idols. Are you from the third world or something? Culturally cheerleaders are lumped into that same group of extroverted party-going Stacy types.
>>5115787
I'm glad you're doing research but I'm not sure how these words escaped you browsing 4chan.

>> No.5115879

>>5109599
she acts like matsuri, care about number but want to play her favourite game
>matsuri apex
>kiara rpg

>> No.5115942

>>5115835
Where are you from because you are just wrong? Popular girls pride themselves on appearing classy, not loud trash. Loud is not synonymous with popular ever. They get off on being the most desirable at all times and they know no one likes loud trashy girls. By the way, Northeastern US and Midwest but I have lived in Florida and Colorado. The loudest women I have known were from the East Coast. What you would consider the popular cheerleader types are from the Midwest and they are not loud trash bags like Kiara.

>> No.5115966

>>5115835
>>5115942
you are both irredeemably autistic

>> No.5116007

>>5115966
I’ll admit that I have been giving this way more attention than it deserves. I just can’t stand seeing people hide behind the term Stacy, like it has anything to do with Kiara being loud and insecure.

>> No.5116073

>>5115942
>>5116007
Kiara isn't loud she's just a Stacy. I'm pretty sure you just find her voice annoying and focus on it too much? Gura unironically yells more during her solo streams than Kiara.
>>5115966
I have nothing better to do right now except comb threads and reply to the people who give me (You)s. I'm sure you understand.

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I hope I can help in your retarded debate (picrel)

>> No.5116216

I dont hate her but her voice can be really annoying and and the lesbian stick with Cali just does not work

>> No.5116276

>>5110843
>when Ina beat her to a million
But Kiara still made it to 1 million, even if she was last in her Gen.
Seethe.

>> No.5116303

>>5112137
>JSLs: Meme review is reddit-tier garbage!
>Also JSLs: Kiara tried to steal the meme review! Has she no shame?

>> No.5116315

>>5116131
Left better at sex

>> No.5117098

>>5113695
>More like insecure pity party numberfag
As a newcomer this shit turned me off so much during her 1 million endurance stream, as soon as she started using the pity card, I couldnt keep watching.

>> No.5118972

>>5109599
lets compare kiara with goomber
design : gura win. blue is more popular color than orange and guras design is much more simpler than kiaras. simpler didnt mean better but kiara had too much going on on her design. two hat? drumstick? sword n shield? kamen rider belt? hair color?? ear hair???. simpler design also make it easier to draw for fan artists, equal more free advertisements.
debut : idk about predebut era but i watch their debut live. the only thing i can remember about kiara is her japanese is so good i thought she is legit japanese, thats it, nothing special otherwise, in my place peoples know at least 3 language excluding english btw so i didnt think its that important. while guras is more memorable for me, her good singing performance stuck with me for a while. maybe im just biased because i like music with modern jazz feel but after seing so much clips of it i doubt it. and the meme, dont forget the meme, zoomer like memes.
experience : gura looks like she have some experience at streaming in general while kiara having so much technical problem early on, kiara also have a hard time handling chats and her free to backseat policy makes it worse. imagine youre kiara, unfamiliar job playing unfamiliar games while 20k peoples constantly telling you what to do while your computer secretly plotting to troll you every hour or so. also, i think kiaras thumbnail, stream title and game choices is a lil bit bland compared to gura at least, its just my opinion tho.
personality : kiara is an emotional wreck, at least 1 or 2 months after debut. low self esteem, she care too much about her hater, care too much about her numbers, hyper af, tryhard, often interrupt (i blame discord delay), forced ship pairing, she likes beating her jokes until its dead, etc. and she swear a LOT, she didnt care, kfps didnt care, majority of peoples didnt care either but i bet my ass that youtube algorithm care. while gura in comparison didnt have too much problem, except she is too safe and a lil bit.. depressed? and shit at games? but kiara is also shit at games.
voice : early on kiaras mic is shit, her fake voice also make it worse. gura didnt have this problem, i know gura is prolly fake her voice too but gura didnt sound annoying at all even though shes the loli chara of holoen.
tldr : kiara has too much problem early on, killing her momentum.

>> No.5119181

ppl go to vtuber not to listen to ppl complaining about minor stuff. she seems hardworking but the complaining she does that is sprinkled thought out the steam makes its really irritating for most people including myself. the GFE she does is also abit too mixed so the audience gets turn off. the lesbo route also seems very force. either full tsundere like rushia, or act needy like roboco, or even act nice girl like mel may be better. she tried to please everyone but in the process piss alot of other ppl. and also her voice sounds and tone doesn't sound nice to alot of people. her normal voice is way better.

>> No.5119305

>>5109599
She literally has the same sub count as Ina right now. Does anyone here seriously think Ina will beat her to 1.5 mil? Some of you will deny it just to talk shit and others will make all sorts of excuses, but I know none of you genuinely deep down believe Kiara will be last to 1.5.

>> No.5119386

>>5109599
I think it's because of her game choices, RPGs is her main games and those types of games are hard to sell specially on stream, her minecraft streams have good numbers, and DESU if she don't do the anime voice and use her natural voice I think she can be more popular

>> No.5119420

>>5119386
why is T.B.H chane to "DESU" in this board?

>> No.5119536

>>5113469
She feels like the opposite of genuine to me. Nonstop tryhard pandering and attempts to invoke pity when it doesn't work.

>> No.5119618

Why/when did she changed her voice? Do normies really prefer it that way?

>> No.5119801

>>5119618
She didn’t change her voice, she changed her microphone. When she gets up from her seat to take a break she get misaligned with the mic and you can hear her "old voice" again.

You can’t compare to her old persona because she never had a good mic.

>> No.5120175

>>5112137
Multiple hologirls have reviewed memes at some point. Especially the ones from twitter. They just don’t to it weekly like Coco.

https://youtu.be/RNlRAvY-8ZA?t=1689

>> No.5120241 [DELETED] 

>>5119181
You gave the topic more attention than it deserves, and I applaud your effort. I also agree with everything you said. Based friendo.

>> No.5120282

>>5118972
>>5119181
You gave the topic more attention than it deserves, and I applaud your effort. I also agree with everything you said. Based friendo.

>> No.5120539

She is riddled with legitimate flaws so it's only natural that she's the least popular (by a significant margin I might add)

I feel no sympathy for her because most of it is her own fault.
t. KFP

>> No.5120566

>>5109599
Ironic because she has the most talent out of every EN holo.

>> No.5120659

>>5109599
Coz she has a lack of good character, irritating voice, total pekora leech, panders to SJWs and have clearly stated in her roommate's channel that she is doing this just to get a piece of Hololive's popularity.

>> No.5120664

>>5120566
Name one thing, she is the only proven failure in the entire Gen.
>Plagiarism isn’t a skill.

>> No.5120695

>>5109599
Her style is more like JP and doesn’t appeal to EOPs strongly enough to do Gura or Amelia numbers. But you understand what type of viewers make up Gura’s/Ame’s numbers, right? Nothing lost there

Also she’s menhera. That’s normal for vtubers though

>> No.5121013

>>5119420
newfag

>> No.5121018 [DELETED] 

>be Kiara
>come up with an absolutely retarded and overstuffed lore (phoenix, warrior, fast-food manager) because you want to have a funny twist like the rabbit
>come up with easily the worst character design in Hololive history, resulting in by far the least subs beven efore debut because people are already turned off by your design alone
>debut: absolute shit tier mic because you're so fucking retarded you actually think the mic is fine and don't bother changing it until you read the massive amount of criticism
>spam Japanese non-stop in an English generation
>break down on stream crying because someone very politely told you to turn it down
>constant fucking tech issues because your PC is a piece of garbage and you're such goddamn fucking braindamaged retard you think a professional streamer doesn't need a good PC "durrhurr i have a good PC at home, just wait till I get back (because the first 5 months after debut are so insignificant for your future growth am i right?)"
>constantly fuck up your karaokes because you either have a shit mic, or fucked up audio desync, didn't practice any of the songs, and only sing retarded cutesy j-pop vomit because your autistic fucking ass somehow insists on MUH ARCHIVING even though unarchived is where the money's at
>obnoxious chicken voice you refuse to drop even for karaoke despite literally everyone else who uses meme voices (ie. Subaru) doing so
>get a new mic, it's finally good, somehow fuck up your audio settings at some point (or maybe she's just too close to it) to the point you can hear every fucking molecule moving in her mouth and her screaming is INSANELY ear-grating
>fuck up the UNO collab so hard even her own KFP's tell her to fuck off, her response is to call them triggered and basically go "I did nothing wrong, but I GUESS I'll just stop XYZ so you guys stop crying"

>> No.5121032

>>5109599
she's a shit

>> No.5121140

>>5112695
Agreed. Such an easy fix but she's too stuburn to change it.

>> No.5121200

>>5112485
>Kiara is a great streamer and entertainer
heh
NO!

>> No.5121208

>>5110704
OH MY GOD YES. Her and subaru could be so much nicer if they dropped the grating performance.

>> No.5121222

I can not watch her because her voice is like nails on a chalk board
how can anyone stand this for more than 10 seconds?

>> No.5122111

>>5121018
ogey

>> No.5122373

>>5116276
And then she cried and complained about being the last to get 1 million subs in her gen

https://youtu.be/Gln-E9L0U2w

>> No.5124830

>>5119420
Newfag

>> No.5125026

>>5109599
I don't care what anyone says, the whole "ill shit my pants real good" has been the hardest i laughed in years.

>> No.5125190

>>5121013
>>5124830
Ok, so are you gonna explain why?

>> No.5125220

>>5121018
It’s like you were reading her mind. Was that from her shit covered diary?

>> No.5125975

>>5122373
Yeah, she's insecure and hard on herself.
Still made it to 1 million though.

>> No.5126020

>>5119420
newfag
If you want to know something, google it yourself. That way we all increase the quality of our posts.

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>>5110515

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>>5125975
>>5126023
>>5128250

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>> No.5131095

>>5131016

orange bear good
orange bird bad

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>> No.5131471

>>5110843
Based post. Pretty much in a nutshell why I don't watch her. Of course if you're not a yes man, you must be a discord egg lol.

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>Based post. Pretty much in a nutshell why I don't watch her. Of course if you're not a yes man, you must be a discord egg lol.

>> No.5133866

>>5109599
she is german and she has no soul

>> No.5134078

Anyone else find the constant use of the cat ears and tail annoying? She's a phoenix why does she even have cate ears in the first place, even Gura said "You guys know I'm a shark, right?" when her chat kept asking why she's not using her cat ears

>> No.5134131

>>5109599
Multiple STD's from being prostituted throughout Japan.

>> No.5134784

>>5109599
>Like a drag
Kiara certainly is one...

>> No.5134880

>>5110843
Man, I don't know about all that stuff, I just want to shit in her mouth.

>> No.5135177

>>5134880
She would love it, that's the thing.

>> No.5135976

>>5110843
yeah, i dont like chicken either. You know how I deal with it? I never watch her, but you seem to watch her alot? I didn't know she did any those things besides the grating voice

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Even Kiara says she is an attention whore, this is only time I can say I actually agree with her.

>> No.5140946

>>5109599
She is a Vshojo in hololive she should return to vshojo and stay there.

>> No.5141078

>>5140946
massive cope. of all the EN girls she's the least likely to join vshojo by far.

>> No.5146072 [DELETED] 

>>5114706
>She's literally just a textbook Stacy and this brings up repressed high school
actually chads know what a stacy is, which kiara is not. stacies do not breakdown, they actually work hard to keep their image and are not fazed by little things like being last to 1M.

I dont know what kind of stacies you're watching, virgin but the stacies I know arent mentally weak like kiara. they're also much more feminine compared to kiara.

>> No.5146150 [DELETED] 

>>5115522
honest question, have you even talked to a stacy, kfp?

>> No.5149210

Remember when she did the "waiting for Ina" stream which was just a blatant copy of Fubuki? Holy fuck, everything she does is just trying to copy success. She even copied Pekora's laugh for fucks sake.

>"People always tell me that my laugh sounds like Pekora-senpai"
WOW I WONDER WHY

>> No.5156424

>>5140946
She's the most like a Holo JP out of all the EN girls though.

>> No.5158505

>>5112585
>she does it because she thinks it will make people like her more
She swears while talking in english and its hard for her to control it because that's how she learned to speak it
But you are right that she went overboard with the swearing because she thought it was popular. That was months ago though and has toned down the swearing recently. She will never stop swearing and will always be the more sailor mouthed out of the generation though.

>> No.5158568

>>5149210
get new material

>> No.5158955

>>5110673
>She can’t take a joke
comes with being a germanoid

>> No.5159136

>>5110573
The point where I unsubbed from her was when she started this navel gazing bullshit. I don't come in your stream to hear about how sad you feel about not being good enough.

>> No.5159250

>>5110704
This is the main reason I don't watch her. I saw a clip of her barely awake and not doing the streamer voice, it was so relaxing.

>> No.5159317

She's a lolcow so I want to milk her for laughs.

>> No.5159533

>>5112485
>Kiara is a great streamer and entertainer
Yes, and I'm the Roman Emperor

>> No.5159780

>>5159250
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSuTWSJIP1U

>> No.5159836

>>5159780
Maybe we should start a petition kek

>> No.5160017

>>5114404
Interesting because she was anything but popular during her school years... or during her entire life really.
>>5114625
She made them have sex on stream. People find it uncomfortable that she forced her fantasy to have rough sex in public on her friends even if it was just pretending.

>> No.5160123

>>5159533
Ave Caesar!

>> No.5160836

>>5159836
She has read feedback about dropping the chicken voice.
She won't do it because it's the character she's voicing and some people got used to it.
I'm a diehard KFP but I understand how her voice + shit mic can filter people. It does feel like nails on a chalk board at times.

>> No.5161247

>>5160836
Welp, if she refuses to adapt then she's always going to be last. Oh well

>> No.5161274

>>5160836
>"The chicken voice is messing up my throat, I'm going to take it easier in the future."
Subaru did it, Suisei did it, I don't see why Kiara can't do it.

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>>5110307
>>5110843
Hard work pays off. Hard work got her into Holomyth. She was initially rejected and kept on pushing. She didn't have the talent of Ina, the music production background of Mori, the OBS skillset of Ame, or the subscribers of Gura. Cover was looking for girls with some unique and marketable talent. She has nothing. You and a million other faggots are only watching her now because she just wouldn't take Cover's no for an answer. She is a tryhard, that's her sell. A few months in, she is making more money than investment bankers and most doctors with a fraction of the working hours. The fact that she tries too hard is reflected in her Youtube analytics. She is the lowest subscribed in her gen but consistently top 3 in donations. By the way, subscribing is free but superchats cost money. Evidently her tryhard attitude filters NEET losers but it also attracts paypigs who relate to her work ethic and can afford to support her. I hate her fucking voice but I admire Holotalk and her autistic German ability to memorize superchat names. Like her or not, she is positive for the gen and for Cover. I respect the hustle, but out of personal preference I will never watch her again.

>> No.5161356

>>5161274
The surefire weakness of all krauts is their insistence to keep on doing things a set way and not changing at all.

>> No.5161363

>>5161315
too obvious

>> No.5161549

>>5161315
>She was initially rejected and kept on pushing.
She was accepted almost immediately after she submitted her application. Cover knew her background provide a lot of assets for the company

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>>5161315
>when you try your hardest to come up with a good quality for ame and you can manage is "she can use obs"
kek understandable

>> No.5162090

>>5109599
>Collabing with Nyanners
How does this literally not explain every thing....

I used to hate the Kiara antis here but sometimes I really feel like they had a point the entire time.

>> No.5162196

>>5162090
You can run away from the truth, but you can't escape it.

>> No.5162250

>>5109599
>Why is she less popular then the other girls?
Because she hasn't yet realized that playing as a dyke for a female grim reaper doesn't pay off

>> No.5163430

>>5162250
>Ame in her first week: "Don't come in my stream and just ask about Gura. I don't want to be defined by another person, I'm an individual streamer and I have my own things to bring to the table."
>meanwhile kiara going hard on takamori shit for months

>> No.5165172

>>5161315
>She was initially rejected and kept on pushing.
Just say you don't watch her streams

>> No.5171394

>>5162090
What's up with Nyanners? I am genuinely asking cause I haven't watched her at all.

>> No.5171502 [DELETED] 

>>5171394
She's an SJW. And no, not "she talked bad about MUH DRUMPF once". An actual SJW.

>> No.5171544

>>5171394
trolls remorse bitch
i don't give a fuck that she "betrayed" 4chan or anything, I'd probably do the same, i just really fucking hate faggots with trolls remorse

>> No.5171561

>>5171394
Her humor is goddawful, her style is stale, she is doing a lot of reaction channel shit and she feels really fake.
I don't want to skin her alive yet, unless she starts doing r/ slash readings or "GIBE ME UR STORIES TO MOCK LMAO"

>> No.5171684

>>5161315
>She was initially rejected and kept on pushing
newfag lmao

>> No.5171721

>>5171394
no spoonfeeding, go read one of the million threads about her

>> No.5171789

>>5171394
female twitch streamer, we're still looking for a cure.

>> No.5171886

>>5109599
too honest, too 3d, too much soul

>> No.5171934

>>5171886
>g*rmanoid
>soul
Those two don't go together

>> No.5172210

>>5171934
germans have literally never done a single thing to imply they don't have souls

>> No.5172228

>>5172210
I beg to differ and I have proofs
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Germany

>> No.5172258

>>5109599
popular? I think the is the most popular. Be it good or bad. The popularity does not equals support or approval.

>> No.5172285

>>5172210
germans are literally robots, they were made by the swiss as a joke and it went horribly wrong.

>> No.5172639

>>5172228
anybody can edit wikipedia anon, especially the jews.

>> No.5172784

she is not even german

>> No.5172800

>>5172784
>Austrians aren't Germans
burgerland education at its finest

>> No.5172939

>>5112456
>chumcucks STILL seething about Kiara having better cat ears than Gura
>ignoring both copied them from JP where everyone had cat ear props for months
Gura doesnt deserve you people.

>> No.5172987

>>5112485
>constantly pick debuff games and austistically plays them for months, making a huge wall for newcomers who see her playing some shit like fire emblem part #143.
This is a good thing you fucking mongoloid.
Why would you want 50 streamers doing minecraft, apex and the single fotm?

>> No.5173056

>>5114404
You know I thought about this for a few days and I take it back. I dislike her because she's tryhard. She also doesn't have the "popular girl" attitude, she acts like the girl trying really hard to fit in with the popular girls. It's passion in the complete wrong direction

>> No.5173093

>>5173056
few hours*
but still, Kiara needs to find her own niche. She just doesn't fit in

>> No.5173358

>>5161315
What is an OBS skillset kek

>> No.5174057

>>5109599
>people vote kiara for the best cook because its part of her character
>why people voting me i (personally) not good at it
Why can't she play her character? Also cooking holochuuba when?

>> No.5174795

>>5125190
No. Kill yourself

>> No.5178911

>>5109599
>Why is she less popular then the other girls?
She's so LOUD

>> No.5181758

>>5178911
Ollie

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>>5173358
People try their hardest to make Ame look like she has any talents, please understand. They also claim she's good at games.

>> No.5182238

>>5159780
jeasus, how is there still cracking in her voice when she's not doing the chicken shit? She's going to hurt herself this way.

>> No.5182370 [DELETED] 

>>5182070
She is likeable, which is unfortunately rare these days.

>> No.5182460

>>5182370
debatable. I personally don't think so, especially when she's having her outbursts

>> No.5182474

>>5161315
Its a very bizarre culture where "doesnt try at all" is valued more than "works very hard" and "tryhard" and "sweaty" are genuine insults.
We really gotta bring the asiatic "work until your fingers bleed" mindset over here.

>> No.5182941

>>5182370
She is a lying twitch streamer cunt, that is all she is

>> No.5183119 [DELETED] 

>>5182460
fair enough, her outburst are kinda too autismo, but good for a laugh when she reaches the ragequit threshold.

>>5182941
lying?

>> No.5183157 [DELETED] 

>>5182474
>We really gotta bring the asiatic "work until your fingers bleed" mindset over here.
I'd rather have my streamers being talented and barely trying than talentless and dying from overtime.

>> No.5183395

>>5109599
Probably because she's a leech, has exploited and manipulated emotional support for views by threatening self harm, and her roommate has a history of being all over Tyrone.

That said I don't even hate her, I just have no interest in her or her content.

>> No.5183474

>>5182474
>work until your fingers bleed
Oh please they don't actually do that.You only have to be present and do overtime .Nobody cares if do the same amount of work.

>> No.5183489

>>5174057
>cooking holochuuba
Choco, Aki , Mel rarely and Haato.

>> No.5183569

>>5183395
>le ebin orcschizo rrat

>> No.5183607

>>5183157
Why? Grit and elbow grease are objectively good, every time, regardless of the situation.
There is no talent.

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