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Do they exist? Will they ever? Seems like an untapped market, since political content is so crazy popular on Youtube.

>> No.5104697

>>5104547
Imagine the drama of internet politics...but with vtubers as well! Recipe for disaster

>> No.5104748

theres at least one

>> No.5104769

Politics been downhill lately.

>> No.5104816

>>5104769
Freedom of speech stock on the downturn.

>> No.5104818

>>5104547
Most of them will be left wing. I hope you know outside of this shithole no one agrees with right wingnuts.

>> No.5104852

>>5104547
Go watch western cartoons and capeshit for that. You fucking cancer.

>> No.5104876

They exist. There's a feminist vtuber on the Japan side of things and it's not uncommon that Gwelu in Nijisanji discusses politics. They take all of the controversy that comes with the territory, though.

>> No.5104926

>>5104547
I watch Vtubers to escape reality. Not sure why people want to mix these two together.

>> No.5105005

>>5104818
>Most of them will be left wing
Because otherwise you get deplatformed.

>I hope you know outside of this shithole no one agrees with right wingnuts.
False consensus. We live under a liberal tyranny and people are terrified of losing their livelihood for expressing their opinion. All non-liberal opinions and options have been silenced, jailed or otherwise destroyed because they pose a threat to the liberal totalitarian system. It's the exact same situation as in the Soviet Union.

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>>5104547
Ah yes, the untapped "anime girl covers the 2022 midterm elections" market we've all been dying for.

Seems kinda pointless. The world is run by satanic pedophiles and no amount of political commentary will change that. But I could also see how some people would find political content more enjoyable if there was a cute vtuber in the corner. So I guess I could understand the appeal.

>> No.5105777

>>5104926
They want to subvert and destroy every medium free from politics so no one can have entertainment any more.

>> No.5105808

>>5104547
There's a bunch, but at large it's a shitty concept because nobody gives a shit about politics right now.
Trump is gone, what are you gonna talk about? Whatever your opinion on him, you have to at least accept that he's the reason why "politics as entertainment" got popular in the first place and there's really nobody to replace him.

>> No.5105814

>>5104547
>Do they exist?
no
>Will they ever?
no
>Seems like an untapped market
It's nonexistent
>political content is so crazy popular on Youtube
Hardly

>> No.5105819

>>5104547
i imagine if someone pulls it off the bigger names like philtube will convert and slaughter them

>> No.5105892

>>5104547
Vshojo.

>> No.5105955

>>5105005
Yeah yeah yeah. Put it on your blog.

>> No.5105986

>>5104818
>outside of this shithole no one agrees with right wingnuts
Isn't if funny how when you give people a place where they can speak freely without the constant threat of doxxing/ bannning, suddenly people start espousing right-wing views? Isn't that just hilarious?

>> No.5106023

>>5105005
>All non-liberal opinions and options have been silenced, jailed or otherwise destroyed because they pose a threat to the liberal totalitarian system. It's the exact same situation as in the Soviet Union.
I refuse to believe that anyone can be this retarded.

>> No.5106072

>>5104547
get the fuck back in your containment board, /pol/lution.

>> No.5106185

>>5104547
Zen is a soicuck blm supporter
Futakuchi 100% pozzed lefty whore

>> No.5106322

>>5104547
Most Vtubers are women so probably not. Good luck finding a woman who has any political views that aren't either the safest, most mainstream shit imaginable, or whatever her current boyfriend thinks at the time

>> No.5106336

>>5105986
Its because everyone lean right wing when it comes to their benefit but would always want to be liberal to look good in public and when it comes to social welfare. Its ingrained into the American mentality since the beginning of the country. Everyone wants freedom and the ability to do anything they want except when it somehow comes back to bite them in the ass when it turns put not everyone agree with them on things they want. Both liberals and right wings. Both are retards for considering themselves part of either one of these ideology.

>> No.5106536

>>5106336
anon, liberals are right wingers

>> No.5106574

>>5104547
There aren't that many really successful political Twitch streamers, pretty much all of the successful ones are male and male VTubers don't do well. Western, anyway, maybe non-western would turn out better.

>> No.5106633

>>5104547
I Wish but you aren't allowed to be /pol/ on any platform even if you're doing it for shitposting reasons and entertainment
>Tfw no alex jones Chubba

>> No.5106665

>>5104547
Political commentary doesn't go well with streaming.
You need time to research the topic, otherwise content devolves into partisan uninformed bullshit.
If you are looking for good political commentary by a cute girl who sometimes uses a 2d avatar I'd recommend Aydin Paladin, but she doesn't qualify as a vtuber desu

>> No.5106879

This entire thread is exactly why a political vtubers are a bad idea. The fanbase is already a bunch of schizophrenic retards who obsess over 3d whores masquerading as anime women. On top of that likely with all people obsessed over politics they are either too young to actually vote or haven't done any actually meaningful political action aside from shitposting on the internet.

>> No.5106896

Technically rantsonas do qualify as pngtubers

>> No.5106949

>>5106896
I hate that you're right

>> No.5106973

>>5106949
technically avatarfagging like in the OP can be considered an adaptation of vtubing to the imageboard medium.

>> No.5107050

>>5106973
So Tripfags were v-posters this whole time?

>> No.5107061

>>5107050
Yes, but only on text-only boards.

>> No.5107132

>>5106023
>commie fucks have never suppressed the freedom or speech of people

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5107157

Did someone say Polka Vtubers?

>> No.5107281

>>5107050
God i hate namefags and tripfags so much.

>> No.5107417

>>5107132
>It's the exact same situation as in the Soviet Union.

>> No.5107542

>>5104547
The Shaun faggot is a holofag so it's a matter of time.

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5107591

>>5104547
Monkey's paw, anon.

>> No.5107692

>>5107132
You never even stepped foot into an actual totalitarian country or were old enough to know what it was during the SU you fucking zoomer piece of shit. Someone calling you a piece of shit for acting like an entitle faggot is not the same as literally being hanged for even mumbling about the government. Fuck out of here you burger chugging pile of dogshitl

>> No.5107701

>>5107591
>This is more allowed on youtube and has a higher chance of staying up than something against the rampant spread of deviant sexualities

>> No.5107705

>>5104547
there is a kike vtuber on twitch that is a political vtuber, anime girl ben shapiro, dont remember her name tho

>> No.5107712

>>5107591
I was hoping to god that this is photoshop. Fuck.

>> No.5107768

>>5104547
>doesn't watch EN indies

>> No.5107882

>>5107591
>in DEFENSE of pedophiles
>furry
everytime

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>>5107692
>Someone calling you a piece of shit for acting like an entitle faggot
If that is the only thing that happened than we'd live in a utopia.

Now you get fired, doxed, declared mentally ill (when you're not) and depending on which country in the west they can even ban you from paypal and any form of making money so you're literally left to starve in the streets unless you can bitcoin your way to safety.
IF every private company decides you're not liberal enough you're just as fucked as if the government did so.

And for the record its not even a super hot take like /pol/posting that gets you in that much trouble. You can get fucked just by saying "I don't like gay people that much, just my opinion". Remember, they fired the CEO of mozilla for donating to a pro-family charity YEARS before becoming CEO. And they took that baker to court over not making a cake for homos. And when he WON THE CASE (and he only won because he said that they could buy any cake they wanted he just refused to make a custom one) different gay people took him to court for the exact same thing over and over and over until he couldn't pay the legal fees and closed shop.
usatoday. com/story/news/nation/2021/03/23/colorado-baker-jack-phillips-court-again-over-alleged-lgbtq-bias/6971770002/

PS. Mods this is on topic because of OP being political v-tubing. A Political v-tuber anywhere right from center, even if popular, would get nuked from orbit.

>> No.5108634

>>5107934
Well, now you know how the reverse feel back then when gays were being stoned to death for even making hints they were gay or people being lynched for not worshiping the same god. It sucks when it all comes back, doesn’t it? But chin up. Maybe in a few more years the same views will be reverse and whatever ones you hate can get buttblasted for their political views and belief. It switches every few decades.

>> No.5108708

QTuber

>> No.5108765

>>5108634
>I-its not totalitarian like the soviets
>ok it is but YOU DESERVE IT HOW DOES IT FEEL
every time

>> No.5108793

>>5108634
Yeah I totally remember the time gays got mass stoned in the USA.

>> No.5108844

>>5104547
Anti-centrist chuuba when?

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>>5107934
>being from the west
You get what you fucking deserve whitoids. It's only poetic justice that a political quadrant dedicated to discriminating against people is now being discriminated. God has a sense of humor it seems.

>> No.5108907

>>5108634
>stoned to death
anon that stopped being a thing in western societies long before you were born, quit being a fart-huffing pseudointellectual

>> No.5108924

>>5108793
You’d be surprised. “Drowning fags” is not just a saying you know.

>> No.5108945

>>5108891
>The quadrant dedicated to discriminating against people is now being discriminated
But that just means the other quadrants are just as good as discrimination. So its a matter of which one makes society better

>> No.5108963

>>5108891
Good night anti-white.

>> No.5109006

>>5104769
>lately
Study history, and you'll learn some real shit

>> No.5109049

>>5108945
Call me when you fuckers are being gasses enmass or taken from your homes and shot, left dying on the streets while no one cares. Until then, boo hoo hoo I’m being forced out of my job for a post about how much I hate fags and blacks on twitter while displaying all of my information online like a dipshit because I want attention and feel special.

>> No.5109054

>Female-dominated field
>Youtube/Twitch
>>5104818
>I hope you know outside of this shithole no one agrees with right wingnuts
You are so out of touch it's crazy

>> No.5109145

>>5109049
>Call me when you fuckers are being [treated like Whites in South Africa] while your countries are being transformed into more like South Africa
You are a weird one.

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5109173

All these westerners coping with the fact that they don't live in a based sharia country. I may be a SEAnigger living in a third world shithole but at the very least my entire society agrees with my conservative views and aren't composed of cucks from both wings coping and seething at each other.

>> No.5109175

>>5109049
"LOL we may be engaging in abusive behavior and ruining lives but at least we aren't openly killing people." -you.

>> No.5109191

>>5108891
>quadrant dedicated to discriminating
Are you actually one of those people who fall for the "noble savages" memes? Holy shit, you're such a racist pos. In no way shape or form was the west more discriminating than any other "quadrant"

>> No.5109192

>>5109145
Oh the irony.

>> No.5109223

>>5109173
>I may be a SEAnigger
But ollie exists. That means the degeneracy is already halfway there

>> No.5109228

>>5104547
We need to make a vtuber avatar for Ghost

>> No.5109244

>>5109192
>Whites brought civilisation and technology to africa
>communists pushed equality and other destructive things into the countries
>commies are pushing equality and other destructive things on other countries
>irony
You need a dictionary

>> No.5109311

>>5109173
Half of them don’t even know the rules and laws of their land. Most Amerifats scream muh freedom but don’t know beyond the first two sentence of their beloved constitution and its always funny when they get into real shit and find out that they fucked themselves because it wasn’t what they thought they believe it meant. Happens every time. Its hilarious.

>> No.5109313

>>5105814
>Hardly
He means corporate approved disinformation channels. These channels have no unique ideas, parrot blatantly false information and update sheep on who is currently getting cancelled by woke culture.

>> No.5109394

>>5104547
Any demand for pol babiniku? Or does it have to be a female voice?

>> No.5109440

>>5109175
Yes, you can judge these situation by the worst outcome. If the worst possible outcome is social shunning rather than being lynched, tossed in a gulag, forbidden to exist/vote/mingle by law etc.... Then that's actually a really good outcome by comparison, yes.

>>5108945
You need to be intolerant of the intolerant. That's not an equivalence.

>> No.5109476

>>5109440
>That's not an equivalence.
It is. Because your enemies consider you intolerant and do not want to tolerate you as well.
"Its ok when we do it" is a think all ideologies think

>> No.5109496

>>5109223
You wouldn't really call any of the Hololive girls "normal" would you? All of them from JP to ID to EN are mentally ill, social rejects, or both. One outlier means nothing in a country with more than half the population of all of North America. But nice cope though.

>> No.5109552

>>5109476
So why is it ok when (You) do it?

>> No.5109586

>>5109440
I think you are intolerant. Therefore you must not be tolerated.

>> No.5109603

Leaflit is very pro 2A and sometimes goes on political rants. That's the closest I can think of.

>> No.5109637

>>5109440
"We can take everything away from you but by god we aren't killing you so you have no right to complain." -you, once again.

>> No.5109689

>>5109476
Have you maybe thought of just not being complete total faggots? At least outside of the containment base or at the very least if you plan to, not let it be known that it's specifically you?
I know it's hard and I too love calling people faggots, which pisses me off that all these assholes outside now consider it a "bad word", but I still have self control to not reveal my power level. Its the same shit I've been doing my entire life since I've become a weeb. I just don't let people know and not act like an entitle attention seeking whore. This includes not doing these kind of shit in public.

I know you want to call blacks niggers, but have you maybe consider that it's better to keep it in your head where you can scream it as loudly as possible? I do that all the time.
It's the same as how you keep all your fetist and rape fantasy inside and not show it to others.
I know you're scared of being "canceled" or some shit but, what the fuck are tou scared of being cancelled about? Are you worried for other people? They can take care of themselves and its not about empathy, cause empathy is bullshit since its always about yourself.

>> No.5109786

>>5109689
>which pisses me off that all these assholes outside now consider it a "bad word"
anon....
faggot was always a bad word outside of this website, because you sure as hell weren't talking about sticks or cigarettes when you used it.

This whole "oh no I can't say the nigger word anymore" shit is really pathetic, because you never really said it.

>> No.5109845

>>5109689
"Sit down and shut up while I make my bad faith strawman argument." -You, you, so much you.

>> No.5109859
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5109859

Both sides of the political spectrum discriminate against groups they dislike.
Both sides of the political spectrum are intolerant to groups they see fit.
Both sides of the political spectrum play the victim card and act like they're being oppressed.
Politicians from both sides of the political spectrum only want to line their pockets.
Politicians from both sides of the political spectrum won't stand on their beliefs and principles.
Politicians from both sides of the political spectrum don't care about (You).
Reject Politics. Embrace Vtubers. Also shoot feds and grown corn in your backyard.

>> No.5109874

>>5104547
that sounds fucking awful, no thanks

>> No.5109881

Because /pol/ fag will ruin any form of entertainment they touch. Poltards hate each others and vote for the sake of hating without consider of their own benefit, they demand censorship to spite the other party and failed for the control scheme of the government. YouTube censorship lead to more restriction for Hololive and Coco graduation is indirectly related to that. I can't even imagine the damage when pol faggots directly invade this hobby.

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5109941

>>5109786
based, fuck edgy /pol/tards

>> No.5109966

>>5105986
Why does everyone thing that personal responsibility is just right wingers being selfish?

That doesn't even make any sense

>> No.5110117

>>5109786
You don't know me faggot. I can be just as stupid and racism as the rest of you. I've been here longer than most of you reddit tier cocksuckers and have lurked more than on nearly every one of these boards. Could give a shit about most of your believe or your fear of "woke". Most of you idiots break containment and decide to take this stuff to the outside world, like the biggest attentionseeking whores and each and everyone of you deserve everything that comes with it. This isn't even 4chan rules. Its internet rules that been in place since Algore himself invented AOL.

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>>5109552
Because a minority of people with deviant behavior are sacrificed so that the majority of society can prosper. There will always be people who don't fit into the mold of your nation and thats fine, but there are people so out of the mold tha their mere existence is a form of rebellion, even accidentally, and if you let them spread their way of life everything comes crumbling down.

For example, the deviant sexuality spread has caused people to start emulating their deviancy despite NOT being actually biologically deviant.
https://www.. washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2021/02/24/gen-z-lgbt/
>1/6 identify as LGBT
From purely an evolution perspective this is impossible as societies would have collapsed a long time ago if everybody was deviant from what spreads your genes. Also how could societies have successfully repressed this if THAT many people would theoretically be against the repression?
The answer lies that the elevation of those minority deviants has led to people identifying with them in an idolizing like fashion, which has led to a societal rebellion and will eventually collapse everything. Maybe not in your lifetime but its happening
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8BRdwgPChQ

>> No.5110234

Eristocracy

https://m.youtube.com/c/eristocracy

>> No.5110255

Yes, and her name is Fukutachi Mana

>> No.5110257

>>5110117
trying too hard

>>5110145
how do you know
the world as it is today hasn't existed 20 years ago, your guess is just a shot in the dark like any other

>> No.5110406

>>5110257
I'm always hard. I get an erection when I see seething idiots going at each other with the thoughts that any they say or believe matter. It's the only way I can cum now, watching people fuck each other and themselves.

>> No.5110669

>>5110257
Watch the video
And look at history. The most degenerate things occur prior to a complete collapse or a HARD RIGHT revolution
Examples include
Rome - Degenerated into political infighting and societal decadence, Byzantium became Christian, and later Orthodox extremists to combat this, and they too, slowly fell to decadence and infighting
Weimar Germany - Although mainly imposed by the allies, the Treaty of Versailles, caused Germany to go so broke and poor that rich non-germans would come in and offer their more valuable currency for sexual favours of very deviant kinds, such as throat-fucking a goose, literally. This caused people to look to ANYTHING that would fix it.... and you know what happened

And if you read the old testament bible, even just for the "history of the jews as they see it" sake without magic. Kings such as solomon has so many wives he starts to tolerate their paganism and deviant Gods and all of Israel starts adopting those practices instead of their previous tradition. Now.... even though the pagan societies did well with their Gods, the fact that Israel was transitioning from one to another caused .... you guessed it... infighting and decadence.
Or the book of Judges where its literally the following:
>Jews do sexual and greedy shit
>God sends a Judge to tell them to fuck off
>They repent and the judge leads them to a good scociety
>Judge dies
>Jews immediately go back to being greedy perverts
>God sends another judge
>Repeat.... for chapters upon chapters upon chapters

>> No.5110700

>>5110234
Subscribed

>> No.5110717

>>5107591
why is the left like this?

>> No.5111203

>>5104818
>left and right
People still buy that shit huh? I guess the dynamic, nuance, and complexity of real political philosophy where different ideas contrast and intertwine is just not mindless and tribal enough for pop culture consumption

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5111241

>>5110717
>left

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5111294

since forever

>> No.5111316

>>5111241
>furry
>wants child labor
yep, left.

>> No.5111370

>>5110234
Her nose isnt big enough

>> No.5111874

>>5104547
Imagine an Abigail Shapiro vtuber with even better milkers lecturing on the importance of being "trad".

>> No.5112230

Any decent political vtuber would be banned.

>> No.5112319

>>5105005
>jailed for right-wing opinions
your mom lied to you, daddy’s in prison because he touched your cousin inappropriately

>> No.5112389

>>5104547
I don't know about live2d vtubers but png political vtubers exists for are very long time but they present under cartoonish and furry avatars.

>> No.5112597

So many /pol/bait threads recently.
You guys know the real redpill is that it’s cringe to care about or identify with politics to begin with, right? Concerning yourself with politics rather than simply concerning yourself with living a decent live on an individual basis is a sign of a defective mind. In fact, concern with politics usually stems from the inability of mentally unwell people to live decent lives to begin with. If they were normal, healthy people, they would have other things to care about first.

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>>5109006
>history
>real

>> No.5112628

>>5104547
they exist but i think i only know two so far. not really, people who watch vtuber hates politic.

>> No.5112827

>>5104547
There's only one side of the conversation that will be allowed to exist, and that's already represented by every media outlet and tons of Youtubers, so it's just cringe. They do exist though--someone posted one of them the other day, it's just that they aren't very interesting or popular.

>> No.5112922

>>5112597
>If they were normal, healthy people, they would have other things to care about first.
Everything I care about is getting politicized in the exact opposite way I'd prefer them to be if I wanted to live a regular life.

>Job asking for volunteers to represent them at a pride parade
>The extra funds the company got is going towards installing transgender bathrooms instead of improving Worker quality of life
>The people around me are now ratting some of my co-workers out for wrongthink when they're just shitposting with each other like they always do
>Home life is family members talking about what they saw on TV because they're boomers who don't internet
>Because the TV is all Liberal bullshit they unironically talk about how all this progressive stuff is new but its ok because it doesn't interrupt their hockey game and "they're just doing it for money whatever" when companies willingly lose money to push these ideas
>Browse facebook or YouTube like a normie to be braindead
>The promoted videos are gay shit and about poor immigrants that are better than you
>Play videogames
>New videogames are going to start recording conversations that happens in matches so you can't shit-talk too much without getting banned
>Watch anime
>The "official" paid-for translation companies are incorporating politics and cringe into their subtitles and messaging
>Discussion about anime on some platforms is now about whether a character is secretly trans or dysphoric and whatnot
>People are upset Japan panders to the Japanese too much (like fucking what!?)
>Shitpost on 4chan
>People are now anti-/pol/ and are unironically spousing the same TV shit my parents watched on the one website that intentionally rebelled against that stuff or at least was ok with it a little while ago.

I don't want to care about politics. It started caring about me.

>> No.5113320

>>5112922
These people cannot comprehend that they are parasites.

>> No.5113438

>>5104818
You actually need to touch grass retard
Most people outside of your online SJW tranny clique are right wing

>> No.5113508

>>5112922
Poor baby. You know what's the best solution for all this? Kill yourself.

>> No.5113578

>>5113438
Most people are probably technically right wing, but they really are just moderate pushovers who will just agree with and enable left-wing bullshit because they are cowards or are retards who buy into the idea of leftist totalitarianism is "being nice". Even if they have the meme opinions of "political correctness has gone too far", they will still do whatever they can to posture how anti-racist and borderline woke they are. So they may as well be left-wing.

Even tradies are becoming retarded to this because this shit has infected their sports and whatever other garbage they watch on TV.

>> No.5113601

>>5113508
>projection
lmao cope retard
this is the future you chose and it will only get worse
everything you enjoy will be infused with politics, whether it's the zhangs or the sjws

>> No.5113610

>>5113508
Knowing that doing staying alive sends people like you into a hateful autism spiral is the only motivation I need anon.
Every day you stay mad people don't like you is a day I relish despite everything.

>> No.5113634

>>5113610
Doing nothing but* staying alive
kek fuck typos

>> No.5113709

>>5112922
>culture war
>culture war everywhere
america is cancer
pls nuke yourselves; it's like chemo for the world

>> No.5113834

>>5113709
Go back to your third world shit hole you stupid ching chong.

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>>5104547

>> No.5113887

>>5113578
It's more of the big tech oligarchy promoting propaganda. They should all be hit with Anti-trust, and be thoroughly investigated. There should be laws against spreading political propaganda as a public platform, and have them all controlled in a manner that's non-destructive to freedom of speech and culture/entertainment.

>> No.5113954

>>5113601
I don't get it. You don't want stuff to get political, then proceeded to get political at every chance you get. Do you mean you don't want things to be political opposed to your politics? It cost you nothing to not give a shit about any of this, yet you still come to a place because you want to confirm the same political views as yourself because you want to get away from different politics. Okay.

Guess it is inescapable, especially since its your own doing. The only way for you would be to also fix it with your own hands. in otherwords, kill yourself.

>> No.5113992

>>5113834
id tell you to kill yourself but chances are you're gonna die of something random in your barbaric shithole country anyway

>> No.5114149

>>5113954
>if you don't want political shit that must mean you are promoting your own political agenda
lole
this is why we can't have nice things

i'm glad none of the corporate vtubers are political retards

>> No.5117394

>>5112922
>People are now anti-/pol/
you are annoying, that's the issue.
Why can't you stay in your board, is it really necessary to shit up the whole site?
And I don't know about you guys but I have really grown out of "hahaha the nigger word" and all that.

>> No.5117432

>>5117394
>Why can't you stay in your board, is it really necessary to shit up the whole site?
The whole site is /pol/ long before /pol/ existed. There were n-words and oy veys since the early 2010s at minimum if not back when /b/ wasn't all porn

>> No.5117687

>>5117432
I see this rrat repeated over and over even though its obviously untrue to anyone who actually /was/ there
prob forced by /pol/yps as cover for ruining board after board
newfags just don't know better and adopt whatever is the prevailing rrat

>> No.5117769

>>5107591
I fear the day when this whole "pedophile acceptance" shit will become mainstream
I will actually consider suicide

>> No.5117785

>>5111241
he would have an easier time blackmailing kids this way

>> No.5117813

>>5117432
The site used to be way more anti-establishment and just generally anti-corporate more than it was right-wing. /pol/ turning into full blown nazis was pretty damn recent. In the mid and late 00's political discussions on this site were mostly about how the government is spying on people, internet censorship, anti-religion, universal NEETbux, etc. Then the election tourists from facebook showed up and invaded every fucking board thinking this a white supremacist site just because we freely say nigger. I'm sure you faggots wouldn't know that though since you probably showed up in the last 5 years.

>> No.5117995

Is social media today the most tyrannical and draconian control of speech? I'm a /his/let, but how about Rome or Napoleonic days?
Do you get cancelled for having out of left field opinions?

Feels like the more time progresses, I felt more restricted when using English as an ESL. Recently, "Trap" is apparently an offensive word even if it being used in a light-hearted manner. Like who the fuck made these standards and change it on a whim? And how come "retarded" and "crutch" is offensive now, both of them were used regularly in forums, and retard has been used by aircrafts since forever.javascript:;

>> No.5118248

>>5104547
I wouldn't mind a vtuber specialist on the topic, someone who actually know what he's talking about, review politic news and such, and don't just virtue signal on twitter with hot takes about things he has no idea about

>> No.5118324

>>5118248
So you mean someone who agrees with you.
That's the problem with politics every high school dropout gets their politics from whatever youtuber agrees with their preconceived bias and refuse to engage in critical thinking or reading primary sources. More political shows would just make the world worse, do proper research using primary sources and actual data instead of relying on Youtubers whose only qualification is being a mouthpiece for a political party.

>> No.5118333

>>5105986
>>5104818
I don't get this American view of thinking freedom of speech = right wing and left = SJW
I'm heavily left leaning but that's mostly about Economics and working rights. I also hate virtue signaling, any kind of censorship, and despise all the "woke" people or whatever they're called.

I never got that "SJW = Left" thing, if anything right wing prudes puritans seem to be the ones most dedicated to censoring and repressing free speech, at least in my country in Europe

>> No.5118424

>>5118324
Not really
I watch a bunch of politic-focused streamers, that don't specifically share my views, but are more on the educational and analytical side (one was a teacher before).They often interview politics from all the parts of the spectrum.
But again, my country doesn't have this "2 side division" and instead multiple parties with different programs that don't really clearly fit on LEFT vs RIGHT like in America

>> No.5118659

>>5118333
It's due to a fundamental contradiction in conservative thought. They believe corporations have a fundamental right to free speech and free expression but if they use their economic clout to express those things in ways conservatives disagree with then it's "cancel culture". It honestly has nothing to do with SJW's except that SJW's are the ones who occupy a large enough share of public discourse to pressure companies into siding with them. The conservatives aren't upset that SJW's are boycotting Alex Jones or whatever, they're upset that companies like Youtube and Amazon see this and side with whatever way the winds are blowing to maximize profits. Primarily this upsets them because it points to conservatives losing influence within corporate America. Up until like 2 decades ago virtually anyone "canceled" by corporations was someone accused of being a communist or gay or atheist or black panther etc, because those things offended conservatives enough to call the company hotline and complain and organize boycotts and lobby politicians until they got their way. Now that liberal SJW's(not leftists obviously) are utilizing the same tactics against conservatives it fucking terrifies them.

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>>5104547
No, it's a really bad idea.
First of all, politics is an inherently divisive issue. Most people from the liberal arts circles (aka the ones that become vtubers) are, as the name suggests, liberals, very left-leaning people. So as you can imagine, the right-wing crowd and edgelords from /pol/ are going to wage war against such a personality. That would force such a vtuber to exist in a bubble, which won't be fun for anyone. And you can't be a centrist either, because that would just bring both political camps upon your ass.
The second issue is education. All too many "political commentators" on YT are uneducated in actual politics, they're journos and economists most of the time. Their actual input is worthless, and they act more like celebrities, selling merchandise and building their carrier on how viral they are, not how correct they are. The problem is, you can make a somewhat coherent video on the subject even without education, you just need a script. But streaming is different. Someone like Paul Joseph Watson, for instance, becomes a blabbering idiot the second he goes off-script, while Ben Shapiro became a god among political commentators and a "cool kids philosopher" simply because he has some actual education in political science and he practiced public speaking. So even if you want to become a political Vtuber for some reason, you need to be at least as good as Ben Shapiro.
The only way to do this would be to have two very educated people of opposing political views discuss news and have debates. That way, it would be a discussion worth listening to, and it won't alienate half of the population. Good luck finding women with such education willing to put on shows and use silly anime avatars for some godforsaken reason. The talent pool won't be very large.

>> No.5119221

>liberals
>left
Burgers, please...

>> No.5119227

>>5119037
>The only way to do this would be to have two very educated people of opposing political views discuss news and have debates.
CNN tried this in the 00's with Crossfire and it went so badly that Tucker Carlson got fired when comedian Jon Stewart called him out for repeating nothing but talking points and forcing intentionally sensationalist arguments on the show for ratings instead of encouraging compromise and healthy discourse. Ironically ever since then network news has turned into the very same scheme of just having paid shills for "both sides" with a long list of credentials who only exist to spark arguments among themselves that ultimately amount to nothing but riling up viewers. That format is kind of doomed to end up the same way since the average American has no idea how to debate and there's no such thing as a true "middle ground" in politics where you can agree to disagree. Either one person is wrong or both people are wrong, but it's impossible for both sides of the spectrum to be right. It also doesn't help that we've reached such a breakdown of political discourse that certain groups don't even agree on the same reality or the same set of facts anymore. There's literally factions who think the current US government is illegitimate even though they have 0 legal evidence, stuff like that you truly cannot debate when one side is just making up the facts as they go. You could try to steer clear of those topics but it's like walking in a minefield trying to navigate around conservatives' alternative facts without offending them.

>> No.5119229

>>5117813
God do I miss 4chan’s Anonymous glory days. Just another reason to hate Steve Bannon.

>> No.5119501

>>5118333
It's because we don't have a worker's party in the US. That's all there is to it. In the 20's and 30's America was a hotbed of union activity, the IWW was planning on initiating a cross-country general labor strike. Various strains of anarchist and communist thought, most predating the USSR, can be traced back here. Including some orgs that are still active in the US today. The post-war economic boom crushed all of that though. In particular the development of the suburbs and transition to a service based economy. Along with good ol fashioned labor crackdowns and demonization of worker's organization and any political thought that has to do with it. The only unionized industries tend to be the oldest industries that haven't yet been transferred overseas, because their organization was a bit too entrenched to crush outright. Transportation, steel manufacturing, etc. The "union belt" that Clinton famously lost to Trump being the last bastion of American organized labor.

Which leaves American politics in a weird spot, because really, where do our two parties differ? They both hate worker organization, they don't support social services beyond the most anemic (see the democratic opposition to medicare for all, a policy that would be considered middle of the road or even conservative in most of western europe), and they're both imperialist warmongers. How do you rally voters? Cultural issues. Trans bathroom bills, late night talk shows and social media having a liberal bias, the general culture war of small town/small business tyrants and smug liberal cocksuckers, identity politics, this is the heart of US politics. About the only topic of any substance is abortion, which has deep religious ties as well, and the presence of American Protestantism is a whole other can of worms.

Bernie Sanders is widely considered a far left commie moonbat when he'd be a dime a dozen centrist wherever you're from. Political discourse in this country is not connected to economic issues or class analysis at all, it's all fucking whimsy and bullshit.

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First we get rrats about Vtubers' personal lives and corporate backstabbing but now they're expanding into literal history. What a future, such boundless possibilities!

>> No.5119841

>>5117769
You should rather consider homicide in this case. In minecraft.

>> No.5120144

>>5104547
I've seen one. Naturally, they're trans and anarchist.

>> No.5120281

>>5119037
>Most people from the liberal arts circles (aka the ones that become vtubers) are, as the name suggests, liberals, very left-leaning people.
On this note the cognitive dissonance of /pol/cucks here about chuubas and politics is unreal. Just because your oshi avoids talking about political issues doesn’t mean they wouldn’t be disgusted by your conservative worldview the same way people irl are. In that sense raging about vtubers who do express liberal opinions is extremely retarded. Even the ones who don’t talk about it are almost surely liberals in their private thought.

It’s like vtubers who avoid too much interaction with men. It isn’t because they’re non-ironic idolfags themselves. They still think of that type of fan as pigs, they just don’t want to deal with triggering them.

>> No.5120628

>>5105005

the one eyed among the blind.

>> No.5120778

>>5104547
Just give Kiara & Callie 2 more months then there will be weekly political discussion videos from them.

>> No.5120838

>>5104547
they do. But as much as possible, please stop encouraging these people. I fucking hate political grifters using vtubing as their method of propaganda

>> No.5123101

Keep exercising and taking care of yourselves bros. The future is bright.

>> No.5123176

>>5104547
Look at what hppened to Coco. Nearly caused a war and got fired because she accidentally said something political that should not be said (Taiwan) Now imagine an explicitly political vtuber. It would be Kiryu Coco times 100.

There's a reason we despise anybody who dares bring up politics here, such as SJWs and the Chinese. Vtubers are our escapism, for we have had ENOUGH of politics, the number one cause of Depression in the world.

>> No.5123434

>>5123176
yeah that's cool and all but y'know china's a territory of taiwan right

>> No.5123487

>>5117432
Anon, saying nigger and oy vey isn't what /pol/ is about. Being an unironic bootlicker is.
Just think about the way the 2012 election was framed compared to the 2016 election.
Ron Paul was a joke and a punchline and the people who supported him were relentlessly mocked with things like "Ron Paul will make anime real". Of course people were disillusioned with Obama after 4 years of nothing, but they also were mostly indifferent to him, same as Romney.
Then something happened between 2012 and 2016 and people are suddenly ardent Trump supporters. I'll let you figure out what that thing was that happened.

>> No.5123512

>>5118333
The political spectrum isn't what it should be, it's Right=Hitler, Left=Stalin, all authority. Also corporations are persons and afforded the same rights as an individual.

>> No.5123599

>>5119037
>Most people from the liberal arts circles are, as the name suggests, liberals
that's not what the term liberal arts suggests at all, anon.

>you need to be at least as good as Ben Shapiro.
That's a REALLY low bar, remember the BBC interview where he accused a hard right journalist of being a leftist and then walked out.

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>>5108634
>stupid conspiratiorial nazi, we aren't doing anything!
>but how about this, this and this?
>YOU DESERVE IT
Sadly I haven't stoned a gay in my life, so I have to disagree.

>> No.5126239

>>5117995
Severity of punishment is much lower than historically, but control is ubiquitous which was not possible historically.

Just play ESL card. Even better if you are brown.

>> No.5126590

I don't see why you need to be a vtuber to do politics, most people who watch vtubers want the scene to be as far removed from irl politics as much as possible, and it seems to me like every vtuber and even their predecessors like utaites or NND cookie types in Japan have some hard rule that everyone follows for some reason to never talk about stuff like politics or religion, or at least try not to talk about stuff like that as much as possible.
I guess you could say that the culture of Japan is different from the culture of "the west", so maybe there's a space for it in western vtubing, but even the political net pundits currently extant are fucking insufferable as it is, especially anyone that ascribes the shitty polarized amerimutt interpretation of politics to their discourse.
There's no goddamn way that sort of fetid refuse tier content would be entertaining or worth listening to, especially if you put the faggotry inherent to the anime fandom into the mix.
I'd be much more accepting of economics, history, and geopolitics vtubers rather than pundit types; those are the sort of people I watch to better shape my own personal understanding of things as those sorts of people are a bit more general and unbiased and don't feel like they're proselytizing to you.

>> No.5127480

>>5126590
>I don't see why you need to be a vtuber to do politics
The simple reason is the same as why you need to be a vtuber to make any content.
You're not gonna draw viewers by ranting over screenshots and your twitter feed, you need personality, you need something to appeal to human instinct. It's why most "successful" politics youtubers and streamers show their face or at least use a rantsona (i.e. they're pngtubers).
If you don't want to do that or can't do that, you'll have to become a vtuber. Going audio-only doesn't work for zatsudan (which all politics content is), you need some sort of visual avatar.

>> No.5127516

>>5105005
Ah yes, the Soviet Union, bastion of liberalism.

>> No.5127710

This is supposed to be a form of escapism from all that shit, no one with at least half a neuron in their brain wants politics in their hobby

>> No.5127826

>>5126590
People just want confirmation from someone they can see and listen to telling them whatever their views are right or good boys. That's all. There's no benefit to the youtuber except courting a ton of haters.
What people meant when they want a vtuber to talk about politics they mean MY politics. Cause if not, why are so many here seething at Vshojo whenever they bring up anything BLM or saying that Trump is an asshole.

Even if the said Vtuber does do politics it will still be walking on egg shells cause there is no way they will have 100% of the same things the said /pol/fags want to hear and it will only take one contradiction for those same idiots to turn on them. It's not even about liberals, conservatives, Nazis, commies, left or right. Its just politics in general and Americans are idiots for letting it become so ingrained in their life they can't go a day without having someone pat them on the head to confirm their bias.

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Yes

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>>5104547
I'd really like some Arab Nationalist Vtuber brown girl singing nasheeds.
I'm not even Muslim.

>> No.5134145

>>5134090
>Arab Nationalist
>singing nasheeds
anonchama...

>> No.5134164

>>5134145
What? How doesn't that make sense?

>> No.5134211

>>5134164
nasheeds are islamist songs
islamists are the anglo-israeli divide-et-impera weapon against arab nationalists
they DO NOT get along

>> No.5134242

>>5127826
Thing is, if we assume that every vtuber is just catering to a specific demographic on the political spectrum then there'd be nothing wrong with that, there'd be a vtuber for everyone and you're not required to like them all.
The reason /pol/tards are obsessed with "no politics" is because they're aware any vtuber that matches their politics would be run off youtube in a matter of days when they reveal themselves as an unironic racist or pedophile or some shit. They're self-aware enough to recognize their politics isn't welcome in society and so would rather outlaw political discussion as a whole rather than expose themselves and be publicly shamed for getting conned by a senile TV personality.

>>5134164
Arab nationalists and Muslim fundamentalists are natural enemies anon. Al Qaeda/ISIS hated Saddam/Gaddafi/Assad for being secularists that wanted to build a pan-Arab society free of the clutches of religion. When people say the US created these terrorist groups that's what they mean, by destabilizing the region of secular dictators who were propping things up they created a massive power vacuum for their enemies.

>> No.5134419

>>5134211
>>5134242
Hizbollah has nasheeds and they're Arab nationalist I'm pretty sure, or at least they've gotten on with Arab nationalists like Assad.

>> No.5134541

>>5134419
nnnnnoooooooooo
hizb is a sectarian shia islamist party/group supported by Iran
and that Iran connection gives them some common enemies with arab nationalists

>> No.5134579

>>5134419
Anon Hezbollah literally translates to "Party of Allah"
They aren't Arab nationalist they're Shia Islamists that were created by Lebanese clerics in an effort to turn Lebanon into an Islamist state.
They do hold more left-wing views regarding community outreach than most other Islamist groups, but all of them engage in that sort of thing to develop goodwill and trust.

>> No.5134602

>>5134242
>Thing is, if we assume that every vtuber is just catering to a specific demographic on the political spectrum then there'd be nothing wrong with that, there'd be a vtuber for everyone and you're not required to like them all.
In a perfect world, that might work but it's the same as wishing for people to not get mad at others for having an opinion. While I don't give a shit about politics of idiots and the stupidity of American identity being so attached to their politics, they're so damn thin skin about everything. Liberals keep thinking anyone who don't agree with their love of sucking off trannies as Nazis and actively look for fights to cancel any of the sort while Conservative will always feel the need to engage them regardless of the situation and vice versa. Its no different from getting baited and its becomes exhausting cause its always the same bullshit.
Even if we say that each have someone they cater to, there will always be some faggot who will break containment and start shit and then it all spiral into a pile of garbage. There will always be people whining about why there are opposing catering, regardless of either side and it just doesn't work which is better to just not deal with any of this shit at all.

>> No.5134621

>>5110257
>he doesnt know about the Roman collapse, the Persian collapse or Weimar Germany
Yeah come back to me when you think child prostitution is a good thing we should be heading toward. Gay "rights" were the first step into getting people to accept trannies and after normies get stamped out of actually voicing concerns over having them teach their children pedophilia will be next to be normalised. Oh yeah and you may not like but big jewish names and people were behind alot of this shit. 109 countries they were kicked out of, wonder why?

>> No.5134937

>>5134621
Holy shit go back

>> No.5139702

>>5134621
So the slippery slope fallacy is your entire argument.

>da joos bad
Could it be that thwre might be a very specific reason why Christian rulers historically had a problem with jews. Maybe something written in the bible? If you look at it through that lens it becomes much clearer.

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5147711

>>5107591
>its real

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