HAPPENING - MYTHIC TO LEAVE TWITCH

[Anonymous No.]

https://twitter.com/zachbussey/status/1666111039736258561?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1666111039736258561%7Ctwgr%5E6ad204bcbae8ed18ca52b382d157ee7c2b131faa%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.hltv.org%2Fforums%2Fthreads%2F2784876%2Fbye-twitch

SILVERVALE, NYANNERS, VEIBAE, AND SHYLILY WILL POTENTIALLY MOVE TO KICK OR YOUTUBE IN RESPONSE TO NEW TWITCH GUIDELINES

THOUGHTS???

https://twitter.com/shylilytwitch/status/1666118327029071872

[Anonymous No.]

who?

[Anonymous No.]

What new guidelines

[Anonymous No.]

they will never be a vtuber

[Anonymous No.]

It's 2023,There is no reason to use fossil platforms.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50875975
It's on the link but if ur too lazy 2 read it basically they made it a lot harder to put ads on your stream
In other words it'll be harder to get sponsorships if you're a twitch streamer

[Anonymous No.]

>>50875829
TTD

[Anonymous No.]

OTK is not Mythic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50876024
>put ads on your stream
Really? I went to Twitch for the first time in 2 years, the ads literally came on every 30 seconds.

[Anonymous No.]

It's just posturing. They won't do it because they've all been in the game long enough to know they wouldn't survive the switch. Streamers larger than them have had their numbers crushed because they couldn't move their audience (but that was fine since youtube paid them big bucks).

>>50875975
New restrictions on how you can shill and do sponsored content. tldr is twitch doesn't want people doing sponsored content outside of twitch's bounty system (because they don't get a cut). So they're enforcing tons of crap on shill streams/segments if they aren't part of the bounty system.

[Anonymous No.]

It's only a matter of time before Youtube follows suit. Youtube loses a ton of revenue from vtubers promoting their streamelements donation link and incentivizing it over superchats for donothons. They're going to crack down on it eventually.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50876103
Twitch is limiting the streamer's independent ability to advertise, not their own ability.

[Anonymous No.]

Twitch is desperate for money. The only reason they would limit streamers' adspace is to replace it with their own ads.

[Anonymous No.]

Death to twitch and all twitch streamers. Except Shando.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50875829
They should move to Mixer, like Ninja.
Oh, wait

[Anonymous No.]

>>50875975
Twitch added branding guidelines which makes it harder for the streamer to insert advertisements.

[Anonymous No.]

>Kick
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH THEY WILL BE LUMPED IN WITH THOSE WEIRD GAMBLING ADDICTS

[Anonymous No.]

It's to make twitch more money, but it's funny that this is also people complaining about not being able to make 85% of their content logos and ads.

[Anonymous No.]

lol.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50875829
I'm waiting for Twitch to ban Streamlabs/Streamelements. That would be the real shocker.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50875829
what the fuck is Kick

[Anonymous No.]

>just now seeing my feed all these streamers getting white hot mad they cannot shove as much bullshit as possible on the screen anymore
Disgusting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50875829
>mythic this
>twitch that
what level of 'caring about corporate bullshit' are we on

[Anonymous No.]

>>50876344
I never understood why donations through something other than Twitch were allowed. They should've banned that 10 years ago when they had no competition to establish a new standard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50876132
> It's only a matter of time before Youtube follows suit.
This would immediately trigger an anti trust.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50876354
Another streaming service that very much shares the same design elements as Twitch apparently.

Not many people are aware of its existence despite them sponsoring an F1 team.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50876490
>no competition
This is the same as the war between Walkman (Sony) and iPod (Apple).
Sony tried to create a strict copy protection policy to protect the rights of composers.
But Apple, for the sake of freedom of expression, made it possible to play MP3 files on iPods.
Now Apple dominates the music streaming market and has the most retarded copy protection policy.

[Anonymous No.]

>moving to Youtube
>having to directly face against Hololive, PC and Nijisanji
Yeah, sure the chuubas will move to Youtube. 100% guaranteed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50875829
LOL no
wait until certain Twitch streamers are "allowed" to do this, and do all that shit anyway

[Anonymous No.]

>W-we will move to youtube
>W-we will leave youtube for twitch
Holy fuck just pick something else already, both sites are hostile to creators and viewers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50876709
Because like Mixer, Hitbox, Dlive, Trovo, and the other streaming alternatives, no one fucking watches shit on there. May as well move to Bilibili at this point.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50875829
This is why you should always pick the biggest megacorpo to ally yourself with. They are too big to care and wont fuck around with your shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>50876770
Twitch keeps getting shittier by the month whereas Youtube peaked (for now) with shitty guidelines and policy changes

[Anonymous No.]

>twitch killing their own website
Thank god. It's about time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50876747
did you really list phase connect as if their numbers were anything to be reckoned with lol

[Anonymous No.]

If a flat 20% bigger share of memberships and donations didn't get them to move to YT then there's no way in hell that having to tell their sponsors that they have some new guidelines to follow will

[Anonymous No.]

>>50876794
Kick is backed by that big crypto gambling website. Kick literally exists for them to pay large streamers to stream there and advertise their crypto gambling website. It will exist until they think it isn't bringing more money to their website than it takes to run, the website doesn't have to make money directly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50876912
Youtube broke the search, then it broke the comment section, then it removed dislikes, then sort from oldest, now they are deleting videos on channels older than 2 years while talking about anti-adblock.

Youtube hasn't peaked at all, there's just not much left for them to ruin without charging people a subscription fee.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50875829
What the fuck is that link anon I feel like I'm gonna get a virus if I click that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50876770
Twitch income is tied to how much they jew streamers and viewers. Youtube income is based on how much data can they collect and sell. Twitch will get much worse, it's not even competition..

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[Anonymous No.]

Twitch is run in such an authoritarian anti-fun anti-viewer and anti-streamer way that it is jaw dropping they have viewers and streamers at all.

Every time I go on there, I feel like I'm surrounded by a bunch of cucks who love to be abused. The only people who get anything positive out of the experience are the huge streamers that are paid Gorillions of bucks by Twitch themselves to play dictator and ban audience members for even the most gentle of ribbing or pushback at some stupid or wrong thing they said while the rest of the audience pogs and squeals in glee at the abuse.

Genuinely awful community that needs correction. Rape and kill every person that has logged into that site except for me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50877038
In my defense, their new members got decent debut numbers enough to list them.

[Anonymous No.]

As long as react content is a major of their content, they really can’t leave Twitch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50877142
It's funny you post this in a thread where the topic is Twitch trying to limit intrusive ads on stream

[Anonymous No.]

>>50876253
>>50877130
This would be based if they weren't doing it out of greed

[Anonymous No.]

No one will be sad to see Twitch die.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50875829
Who the fuck is sponsoring Zentreya?

[Anonymous No.]

>>50875829
Trannies leaving twitch?
How is this a bad thing?

[Anonymous No.]

Vtubers?

[Anonymous No.]

>>50877331
Tumblr being abandoned just spread their shit around.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50877182
They're just mad they don't have a good way to take a cut of those ads. They will implement a system where streamers have to get approval first, with timestamps, so they know where to insert more ads on top of the built in ads.

And you sad cucks will eat that shit the fuck up kek.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50877142
>that it is jaw dropping they have viewers and streamers at all
Unironically because of the emotes and point redeems.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50876103
Twitch cracking down on advertising going directly through the streamer as they don't get a cut.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50875975
twitch turned the corpo greed knob up to 300%

[Anonymous No.]

Can't wait to see what Twitchildren will be coping with.
They will tell you how cool these guidelines are.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50877130
No more CSGO tournaments on twitch THANK GOD

[Anonymous No.]

>>50876132
>Youtube loses a ton of revenue from vtubers promoting their streamelements donation link and incentivizing it over superchats for donothons
I'm actually surprised they allow that. Last I heard they basically turn a blind eye for IDs to do that because you cannot SC there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50876149
>Twitch is desperate for money.
It's amazon. They're not desperate. Just greedy. If BezZos and his shareholders aren't making more money every year, it means people are getting fired and bonuses aren't getting paid.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50877566
Twitch isn't profiting. The greedy motherfuckers are orgs like OTK and any other company unwilling to give Twitch a cut for their advertising.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50877573
Valulrant enjoyer hands typed this

[Anonymous No.]

>>50877195
They started killing themselves when they upped the ad rate and made most ads 30-60 seconds. I know they want perpetual growth but this just seems like they let their overhead get way too big.

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>>50875829
that is one ugly link
learn to clean your links retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>50876024
lmao but twitch has the most aggressive ads out of the streaming services

[Anonymous No.]

>>50876024
Based, fuck ad shills
Put ads on your stream and go kill yourself

[Anonymous No.]

>>50877625
You're kidding, right? Twitch has a billion ads already and takes cuts from everything. This is just streamers trying to keep their cut which was reduced by twitch previously.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50875829
Finally

[Anonymous No.]

>>50877575
They've been able to SC for awhile now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50876149
>desperate
Amazon doesn't need more money, Bezos just wants it because he's a psychopathic shekelwhore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50876132
Youtube makes fuckloads of money from the insanely detailed data they get from knowing what videos you watch, when you watch them, cross-referencing with every website you visit with google scripts in them, your searches, and more
Amazon doesn't have a fraction of that data reach or leverage
Youtube doesn't give a fuck about tiny donations in comparison to their main purpose

[Anonymous No.]

>>50877687
Now yeah, but it wasn't that way 2 or so years ago, back when HoloID was only on 1 gen.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50875829
This is because everyone realized that twitch bounty is fucking dogshit and everyone knows it’s a better idea to join an org or agency.

[Anonymous No.]

>kick
I don't know what that is but I hope assmongoloid moves there and fucks pogland's shit up. Ever since I heard about that shithole 7 years ago everything about it just seems fucking terrible.

[Anonymous No.]

Just migrate to Rumble. I don't know how their monetization works but you can say the n-word, retard, tranny and faggot there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50877680
I'm not. It's really fucking expensive to run a service like this.
>This is just streamers trying to keep their cut which was reduced by twitch previously
Pay more. They were not paying enough.
Again, the two sides here is Twitch versus OTK/Valve/Riot, etc. Pay more.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50877716
I only said that because I wasn't sure if anon(you?) knew that it had been changed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50876371
Yeah, if you mainly use twitch to watch 2 - low 3 views or people who make their bread and butter through patreon or art comms this doesn't matter at all, but this will hit /lig/ streamers pretty hard too. Most of the shit /lig/gers advertise is bullshit like gamer pills anyway so I seriously don't give a shit.

[Anonymous No.]

Please, Twitch people, go to Tiktok, not my base.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50876132
This is basically the Twitch equivalent of saying "You cannot do Raid Shadow Legends ad segements in the middle of the video, the only mention of your sponsor you can have is a small little logo in the corner of the screen, and from now on we (youtube) are the only one that can show ads.

Youtube is fine with not getting a cut of sponsor deals

[Anonymous No.]

>>50877628
>want my CSGO tournaments with out shitty ads
>you gotta be a valarante child game enjoyer
???

[Anonymous No.]

>>50877298
Tranny support centers
Puberty blockers pharmacies

[Anonymous No.]

>>50877706
Twitch is not Amazon even if they’re owned by them.
Twitch is a money pit that’s living on borrowed time until Bezos starts wondering why the fuck they bought them in the first place. They’re even partially subsidized right now through twitch prime and the discount they get for their web hosting through AWS

[Anonymous No.]

>>50876253
The logo rule asides, haven't YT been doing the same thing for ages?
https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/3364658?hl=en
That's why streamers have to do shill streams with the "This stream included paid advertisement" thing (I don't remember the exact wordings) instead of ignoring it and doing shill streams as normal streams.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50877748
Fair. I don't know if ID still does that, but I remember seeing in one of those NijiEN catalog threads recently about how you should donate through streamlabs because they get the biggest cut. So that did surprise me because I thought that wasn't allowed.

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>>50876132
>Youtube loses a ton of revenue from vtubers promoting their streamelements donation link and incentivizing it over superchats for donothons.
Not even a drop in the bucket for youtube retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>50876747
Anon, I'm not a fan of the vast majority of them, but pretty much every /lig/ chuuba would completely steamroll PC on youtube.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50877807
So Twitch wants to remind everyone "You work for ME."

[Anonymous No.]

>>50877479
In addition to twitch, are you also banned from most public spaces?

[Anonymous No.]

>>50877706
>>50877578
Amazon would make more money if they turned Twitch servers into AWS. Youtube servers tie directly into Google's monetization scheme. Everything you watch becomes nothing more than more data they can sell.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50877578
that's not how it works rumao
If you're part of a bigger company and your division only shows losses quarter after quarter, then surely the parent company will pressure you for results.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50876747
So true fellow fan! How can they hope to compete against the likes of Pekora, Mito, and Pippa?

[Anonymous No.]

>>50876747
Mythic would demolish NijiEN and PC.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50878076
Especially if an economic downturn is on the horizon. They’re going to want results which is why the previous twitch CEO was ousted (he was against a lot of these monetization schemes and the current CEO was pretty much overruling him the entire time anyways).

[Anonymous No.]

>>50877749
I have no doubt twitch makes 100x what they have to put in to maintain the place. Stop being a corporate bootlicking shill.

[Anonymous No.]

This seems like the hollowest of hollow threats. Twitch thots want to try their hand on Youtube? Getting struck for react content? Youtube cracking down on homeless man's softcore porn? They are big fish in a small pond on Twitch, Youtube as a whole doesn't give a shit about streaming in general, much less any individual group of streamers.

[Anonymous No.]

so they're forcing them to activate the shitty 4 minutes video embedded ads to earn real money?
it's just like cable TV!

[Anonymous No.]

>>50877851
Disclaimer that you're being paid is basic, but twitch don't want you to have banners, videos or audios advertising a product. If a company wants to advertise on twitch then they'll have to reach out to them instead of going direct to the streamer, that way Twitch can have their share

[Anonymous No.]

>>50877578
Bezos or someone slightly lower down is probably wondering why the fuck he keeps sponsoring a metric shitton of expensive infrastructure and bandwidth practically for free, for a bunch of loud children to get rich playing games and people to leave it on at 1080p as background noise not even looking at the screen, while advertisers haggle with him to lower his prices every month as they ask him why they keep advertising but barely any of these young impressionable viewers buy their shit

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>>50878197
>Stop being a corporate bootlicking shill
Ironic. Shylily makes the average annual in a week, probably less. You don't have to cry for her making a little bit less money.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50877671
nigger it's way better for the streamers themselves to put a banner or logo or video on their stream instead of having to deal with those retarded unskippable 30 second ads that often come in groups of like 4. they're doing this because this way they can get a cut from a streamer's own sponsorship now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50877851
>That's why streamers have to do shill streams with the "This stream included paid advertisement"
That's because you are legally required to say you were paid to sponsor a product in some countries.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50878285
Yeah and without them twitch is just a pool without water dumbfuck.

[Anonymous No.]

Twitch has been the only site i've seen where they've been actively trying to thwart adblocking solutions. Every new extension that pop ups get killed within a month. They even try to force ads to you through legitimite means. Like having a amazon prime subcription used to give you sitewide adblocks. And they're forcing creators to run ads in the middle of the streams as part of their renewal contract.

They REALLY are focusing on ads. Smells like desparation. As if Twitch is losing amazon a lot of money and they don't want to disappoint daddy bezos.

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>>50877976
Some day soon wallahi

[Anonymous No.]

>>50878285
Yeah, but Shilily doesn't make her money by actively making my experience worse, Twitch and Youtube do.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50878458
Iirc twitch only pays streamers like single digit percentage for ads so it’s in their best interest to shove them down everyone’s throats for more money.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50878458
don't look

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>>50878486
It literally doesn't matter who shows you the ads. They are still ads.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50878429
Then so be it. That doesn't affect me. I don't care for Twitch.
Point is when it's a mudfight between a multi-million-dollar corpo versus multi-millionaires, you pick the side that started the fight. Let them fight.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50878486
Also, it's not like the extra money would go to the engineers and IT staff keeping the place running, it would all go to the execs and shareholders anyway, who all probably make far more than ShyLilly.
I wish twitch would put the effort into something useful like finding a way to make react content either ethical or make it go away.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50878518
my ad blocker can block this

[Anonymous No.]

>>50878486
Twitch is forcing her to make the stream better by getting rid of her ads. Hoorah.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50877142
but enough about youtube...

[Anonymous No.]

>>50878522
It does, I mostly only listen to streams so they could have a logo as big as the entire screen for what I care, but back to back 30 seconds ads are going to piss me off.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50878518
Never seen that ever. Get a better ad blocker.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50877809
My bad fellow csgoKING, I’ve never watched a cs tournament on YouTube so I never knew the of hosting them there

[Anonymous No.]

>>50878458
They probably have a certain threshold they need to meet to please the shareholders at Amazon. It's not necessarily the ads but how many people they can convince in being regular guests. Funny enough they are actively scaring away viewers and guests with these ads.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50876794
I tried Mixer but 90% were 24/7 afk streaming the Paladin lobby with drops enabled. The only good thing about Twitch is that it's well known and many use it but Twitch is doing everything in their might to reduce that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50875829
Oh my god I would love to see them leave twitch. Those inflated muted tabs and embed numbers will go away.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50878581
You do know probably like 1% of twitch streamers are that rich. And it's not purely off of twitch ads. It's through donations, events, and merch sales. Amazon keeps twitch around because of the young audience it garners. The data alone from that is worth billions.

[Anonymous No.]

Isn't there a 3rd option that isn't bilibili? Think it's kick?

[Anonymous No.]

do these retards not realize that this still allows them to include ads below their stream and in their chat? the advertisers partnering with them are the ones who will just have to adapt

[Anonymous No.]

Oh no the rich as fuck people wont be making as much money anymore. Tell me why I should give a shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>50879119
Because twitch at the same time is fighting an arms race against ad blockers and making streams unwatchable without viewing 3 minutes worth of ads beforehand

[Anonymous No.]

>>50879119
Because it fucks over everyone on Twitch you retard. Both big and small streamers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50878873
>The data alone from that is worth billions.
It's not. It's not tied to any wider context and everybody just have tab on background while they watch the biggest streamers currently online. All possible data they could extract is what game and what whore is currently most marketed. Marketers want to see what they should be targeting not what's already inflated by their running ad campaigns.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50879227
Most of the twitch streamers I watch either do it as a hobby (2 - 3views, video game music radio, the bob ross channel) or make their money elsewhere (patreon, art comms). Even the vtubers I watch that are kind of semi-pro don't bombard me with ads on stream (just under the stream in the description).

[Anonymous No.]

>>50879425
>description
I mean the profile section.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50879255
Every place on the internet loves to steal your data whether you like to believe it or not. Where you visit, what you watch, what you buy. Fucking everything. Why do you think companies spend billions a year catering towards young audiences? It lets them know what product to invest into and push for a whole lifetime they are around. They are worth more and twitch looks through all of your history to find out and sales it to these companies for crazy amounts of money.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50879684
I literally just said that Twitch has no such data. What marketers buy are data from google, twitter, e-shops, banks, card companies and similar services. Twitch is not a place where trends are created, it's a place where you see the result of your marketing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50876132
I’ve literally gotten unskippable 30 second ads on YouTube. They’re just waiting for Twitch to go to the gutter before they do it too kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>50879975
Skill issue.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50876747
I don’t think you realize how big these streamers ar retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>50879932
And I'm saying it works both ways. Twitch absolutely has one of the largest pools of young people that visit routinely. With all of the hot trends and data around the world attached to them as they visit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50876716
Except Twitch had no competition in 2012.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50875829
This nigga really named Zach Bussey

[Anonymous No.]

>>50877851
there is a world of difference between a disclaimer that you have a sponsor/add and not allowing it at all with only the platform being able to choose the ads that will be run in your stream/video

[Anonymous No.]

>>50880197
They did have competition. They were all just shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50875829
>hey guys, maybe don't have an ad taking half the scree-
<THIS IS A PERSONAL ATTACK AGAINST TRANS LIVES

[Anonymous No.]

>>50877038
Better numbers than homostars LOL

[Anonymous No.]

doug niggas

douglas yancey funnie ass niggas

[Anonymous No.]

Wait wait wait
WAIT
Didn't Veibae say she wasn't joining OTK?

[Anonymous No.]

>>50880121
You've been misled. Amount of data means nothing if they are naturally skewed. Do you really need to pay to know that Diablo 4 is popular? That's the kind of data Twitch has.

[Anonymous No.]

classic smokescreen tactics from twitch, they'll retract these guidelines but introduce a milder form of that, which is what they had intended in the first place

[Anonymous No.]

>shill gfuel or whatever the fuck ON TWITCH stream
>while dealing with companies directly so twitch gets nothing (this is the operation mythic is doing)
>twitch says no, wants a cut
>greedy shills spaz out

OH NOOOOOOO
shill products on your own website then

[Anonymous No.]

>>50880394
Every site can get more then that. And they do. Twitch is attached to amazon of all things the biggest data sucking whore of them all kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>50875829
>Having a jpg on screen is hard
>Hard
lol what?

[Anonymous No.]

>>50880529
remember that's what cover wants to do

[Anonymous No.]

>>50877749
>the two sides here are Twitch versus literally everyone else
>clearly it's everyone else who is wrong

[Anonymous No.]

>Check the new guidelines
>Wow they can't display huge-ass ads and sponsor banners on screen the sky is literally falling and it's all so complex I might just have to move ;)

[Anonymous No.]

I am generally an accelerationist. I prefer the idea of ripping the bandage off and getting the impending economic collapse over with already.

But I am torn when it comes to unprofitable services like video streaming/sharing platforms, sites that only survive because they're propped up by their massive corporate backers. If the flow of easy money stops these services will be pared back or cut entirely, and I will lose all my fucking entertainment. Why the fuck do we still not have a functional p2p video platform?

[Anonymous No.]

>Twitch retarded guidelines and policy
>Youtube retarded guidelines and policy
it's time for Tiktok live

[Anonymous No.]

>>50880584
>Every site can get more then that. And they do.
Not relevant data. Primary twitch data are streams statistics. All you can get from that is when, who and what they were watching. There is no direct link from Twitch to Amazon. At best they can see if you seen an ad before buying something. You can get that much from any of the services I said in my example without them being skewed to certain demographics and interests.

Also, Amazon is not biggest data sucking whore, that is Google.

[Anonymous No.]

would be interesting to see filian stream on youtube with her 1.82m subs

[Anonymous No.]

>>50877578
It doesn't matter how much money Amazon has, retard. If twitch doesn't generate good revenue they won't just pull moneys from Amazon and call it a day. Pretty sure I read somewhere that twitch hasn't been very profitable for a few years now for Amazon, that's why they made mandatory ads, bigger cut from subs, more costly turbo and some other shit I don't know about.

[Anonymous No.]

Welcome to youtube anontachi

[Anonymous No.]

>>50880922
>I am generally an accelerationist. I prefer the idea of ripping the bandage off and getting the impending economic collapse over with already.
> I will lose all my fucking entertainment.
Anon, you have to be 18 to use this site.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50876191
Good.
I don't want my stream experience to be full of fucking ads.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50875829
this is literally genocide

[Anonymous No.]

>>50881252
retard this means your streamer wont have sponsors unless theyre being funneled through twitch, which mythic doesnt do

[Anonymous No.]

>>50881347
Not my issue

[Anonymous No.]

>>50881208
Nuuu I want my fucking vtubers. I hope you realise if things go pear shaped almost all of them will disappear. I few of the larger corpos might survive, but that'll be about it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50877142
Twitch has better viewer experience/interactions If you don't get any ads like me. YouTube has awkward chat and viewer interactions, I hate typing in YouTube chat, it feels like I'm on some retarded 3rd world streaming platform.
I get more interaction and fun from 5k ccv streamer on twitch than a 300 ccv on YouTube.
And I guess my complaint is that I feel more at ease typing in twitch chat since it isn't my Google account and I can't be assed to create an alt just for streams. They should just make YouTubeLive website where you login with your YouTube account and set a nickname and Yadda Yadda, basically just copy twitch in that regard.
YouTube already has better bitrate as far I know. So that's not a problem I guess.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50881347
who cares about them, I only care about me
as if there's only 1 vtuber for my source of entertainment

[Anonymous No.]

>>50881347
Not my problem.
The pre roll ad is already too much, i don't want to have to stare at ads while watching a stream.
At that point, i'm better off watching fucking sportsball.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50881263
What about transparent ones? Like I've seen some which are words.
Though having seen some, perhaps around 6-10% could be better. Well, I'm basically assuming that's around the size for one ad, so 2-3 of them.

[Anonymous No.]

>no video Ads
>no audio ads
>only tiny logo allowed
I could actually argue this is a good thing for the viewer experience but lately twitch has been forcing their own ads everywhere which are just as intrusive if not more so and it's clear just just want to get a cut of streamer sponsorship money which is just disgusting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50881409
>i don't want to have to stare at ads while watching a stream.
>At that point, i'm better off watching horse piss half time show with rugby for pussies in between.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50881782
Who are you quoting?

[Anonymous No.]

>>50875829
poor millionares, I feel terrible for them

[Anonymous No.]

>>50881755
It's obviously inst tailored for viewer experience, they will just try to replace those with their own, or force small/poor streamers to shill twitch subs harder/make them turn on ads more frequently.

[Anonymous No.]

someone clip the spiffing brit rant

[Anonymous No.]

>>50875829
i guess twitch is bleeding so much monies amazon told them we'll either shut you down or you need to squeeze out as much as possible even if they lose big streamers

[Anonymous No.]

Twitch streamers bitching once again that they can't make money off sitting on their asses playing video games. At least Hololive and even Niggersanji do songs and concerts and shit on top of gaming.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50878518
Just do the YouTube Premium trial for 30 days. Once that's up make a new account and do the trial again. I've been doing that for a year and half without issue

[Anonymous No.]

>>50879073
OTK/Mythic are looking to be a long term entity and to have a healthy relationship with their sponsors. Kick is scarsely moderated, which in turn makes them brand unfriendly. Kick will not be a suitable alternative replacement.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50879975
I get that but in the form of 2 16 second ads

[Anonymous No.]

>>50877130
I like how this completely fucks over events like Games Done Quick as well. They run ads for sponsors for the event. This wouldn't let them do that anymore.
God damnit, I fucking hate Twitch.

[Anonymous No.]

Asmongold is talking to silver right now on stream, she messages him everyday all the time, he's definitely fucking her

[Anonymous No.]

>>50882570
They're both so mentally deranged that i would unironically support that relationship just to see what kind of clown show it would make.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50881387
that's awfully parasocial of you

[Anonymous No.]

>>50877684
>Finally
Holy shit, please don't tell me you're not actually dumb enough to want this to happen. Youtube and Twitch are each other's only relevant competitor. One of them killing the other and turning into a monopoly is the worst thing that could possibly happen to streaming, the one thing that must be avoided at all costs. The only thing that still keeps them from pulling shit ten times as dumb as this is the threat of people moving to the competing site.

[Anonymous No.]

strange how permanent twitch felt only a few years ago

[Anonymous No.]

>>50883214
>One of them killing the other
Neither is killing the other; Twitch is killing itself. Anyway, this is classic Twitch cloak and dagger. They put forward insane guidelines like this to make retards more susceptible to suggestions and then when there is massive backlash, like now, they'll eventually go "oh ok, we'll just implement some of it then" once it's simmered a bit and the lesser changes will be accepted because it's better than the alternative.
It's not the first time they've done this.

[Anonymous No.]

Kick only seems like a platform people will stream on if they're paid 7 figures by Kick themselves
Youtube or Rumble which OTK partially owns will definitely gain from this

[Anonymous No.]

>>50883656
uhhhh but asmon just said kick is the best platform rn

[Anonymous No.]

>>50883640
https://twitter.com/Twitch/status/1666183145526538240
They're doing it already kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>50882226
>smug.png
>too retarded to get an adblocker

[Anonymous No.]

IRONMOUSE WON

[Anonymous No.]

>mythic won
ITS OVER

[Anonymous No.]

>>50884417
her empire of dirt....

[Anonymous No.]

>>50875829
Twitch isn't making a profit and is now run by Amazon suits who don't have a clue about how the streaming business works. They need better noombers asap or their own jobs are at risk, so Twitch is pushing retarded policies that will make more money in the short term but overall ruin the site.
If you don't believe that they could be this incompetent, just look at the disasters that are the games Amazon develops or their big Rings of Power TV show which costs $1,000,000,000 and still sucked major cock. Amazon likes to throw a massive amount of money around to get into a market with 0 idea of how it works and then fucks up big time.

[Anonymous No.]

>AIIIIIEEEE OTK-SAMA PLEASE DON'T LEAVE US!!! WE KNEEL! WE GENUFLECT!!
Holy mother of all damage control KEK

[Anonymous No.]

>>50884658
>they're actually kneeling
top fucking kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>50884658
This is how it was going to playout the moment Twitch wanted to enforce new policies. They come up with what they want to change that still goes against streamers/viewers, sprinkle on a few bits of bait to get people outraged about, then placate everyone by removing those extras they were never going to add in the first place while keeping everything else

[Anonymous No.]

>>50884658
>>50884694
They aren't kneeling. And they aren't doing damage control. It is literally what >>50883640 said.
They threw it out there knowing it would get backlash just so they could "make changes" that look better in comparison but are still shit for streamers. Its what Twitch does best.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50884892
Still a bad change overall, though. Even if they try to make it look more palatable it will make Twitch less attractive, and it won't be enough to stop Twitch from losing money.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50881755
3% of the screen area is not a tiny logo; it's about the same space a vtuber model occupies. 25% of the screens height and 12% of its width is 3% of its area. Pic related is less than 1% of the screen.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50875829
First of all, if they really do leave Twitch and go to youtube I can see that being bad for Holos if only because of Twitch's retarded raid shit they almost always do and how irritating twitch viewers are. They're fucking annoying and more of them on the site acting like they do on twitch will be aids.
Secondly, if they do go on Youtube they're going to throw a fit when they see their CCV slam into the dirt massively, especially since there's going to be vtubers smart enough to stay on twitch and try snatching their viewers.
Thirdly, if Twitch really does manage to chase a load of people off its site and makes Youtube even MORE of a monopoly it already is, that's going to be shit.
Fourthly, it's almost certainly going to increase the amount of annoying leeching the shitty fucking indies try to do since that's literally all indies can do, leech.
Fifthly, if this helps damage and bury this "mythic" shit, good. The only thing I can see coming out of that is an even worse form of cancer than all the involved people already are. The only thing better would be something killing both them and Vshojo somehow, though vshojo's been doing a great job killing themselves off lately already.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50877684
The funny thing is that this rule has been in place at Youtube for ages. Twitch is just updating its own guidelines to be in line with what they do.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50884892
the motte and bailey routine

[Anonymous No.]

>>50885150
youtube raids are opt-in so your oshi isn't gonna suddenly get raided by sexXxpest69 out of nowhere

[Anonymous No.]

>>50885956
So are Twitch raids

[Anonymous No.]

>>50886029
in order to raid a channel on youtube you have to specifically whitelist the channel that wants to raid, i'm pretty sure twitch isn't like that

[Anonymous No.]

>>50884462
How is this a win for mythic?

[Anonymous No.]

>>50886189
You can set it up exactly that way if you want, but most people on twitch just leave it unrestricted.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50886294
so, to reiterate, your oshi isn't gonna suddenly get raided by sexXxpest69 out of nowhere because youtube raids are opt-in

[Anonymous No.]

>move to youtube
>CCV drops by at least half because of their cryptic ways to count viewers
>mass hysteria ensues

[Anonymous No.]

>>50877488
The funny thing is emotes are just a site culture thing. Most of them are from addons anyways. That's ultimately the best thing Twitch has, culture. They were there first and now streaming culture & Twitch go hand-in-hand, and any competition just feels shallow in comparison. Vtubers are kinda an exception just because we're weebs and are absorbing Jp streaming culture.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50885956
i swear you’re the only faggot who uses the term sexpest
your retarded posts are easy to sniff out

[Anonymous No.]

>>50880529
Nigger this is so greedy that not even traditional television entertainment is as restrictive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50881263
haha his name is bussy

[Anonymous No.]

>>50886488
literally never said that word here before mate, save for those 2 posts but whatever

[Anonymous No.]

>casual internet users complained about youtube for the last 15 years saying we should have other competitors
>constantly claim twitch was better
>gamers move over there because "youtube sucks"
>now they're bitching about twitch without wanting to go back to youtube
The whole ordeal is funny

[Anonymous No.]

>>50886753
And in the middle where everyone mocked the idea of Mixer being a competitor. How streamers probably dream of a 3rd party with a real company like Microsoft supporting it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50886955
I forgot about this one. You're right, MS actually tried but gamers bashed it because "muh Sony loyalty/M$ $ucks" mentality.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50880296
Why are you always thinking about men? got something to tell us? it's your month you can be proud you know

[Anonymous No.]

>>50886753
Youtibe spent the last decade to find a middle ground between creators, viewers and sponsors/advertisers

Twitch kids will have to larn what youtubers learned a while ago. Adapt or die.
Every streaming/content platform that wants to make profit will go trough this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50886383
Kiara and mori get raided by randoms all the time. Youtube gives you the option

[Anonymous No.]

>>50875829
Kick shill thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>50885956
You think that would stop them? They'd either do it manually or kick up a fit because it "feels like gatekeeping" or some shit to get some drama out of it. Twitch tards are that braindead. That's not to mention the influx of said retards would probably try to pressure the girls into opening up to all raids for "unity" or something.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50886442
I'd want to see what /lig/ does since a load of their usuals would drop below their own 500 requirement.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50885099
Can you really fit 100 angels on that screen without overlapping? Don't think so bud

[Anonymous No.]

>>50875829
Where are they moving to? Kick or Youtube?

[Anonymous No.]

>>50885251
If they both become the same, then YouTube will win since it's more popular. Twitch needs to keep all its advantages just to even be a competitor.

[Anonymous No.]

BREAKING NEWS

Twitch continues to burn creators with every update but people still suck them off!

More at seven.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50888496
I think Ludwig showed a graph where Twitch had like a 70-80+% share of the streaming market and that’s after the drama of the sub cuts and ads spam. It’ll take a massive exodus of popular streamers or a really big drama for Youtube to even level with Twitch

[Anonymous No.]

>>50888415
They aint moving anywhere. It's just a threat to try and bully twitch into bending to their demands. They've been waxing about how great kick is for months to try and get other streamers to move and make twitch lose money.
All so that they can become more valuable and have more say in how the site done.
This doesn't change the fact this is a greedy cash grab. But this is just streamers and twitch trying to weaken and rob the other of money.
As a viewer you're just stuck in the middle as either side will fuck you over either way

[Anonymous No.]

>>50888685
If it is the one about watch hours youtube just overshadows them now that they are counting all of youtube streaming instead of just youtube gaming

[Anonymous No.]

As a Twitch VTuber with 2000~ regular viewers, which platform do you recommend I go to?

[Anonymous No.]

>>50888685
Youtube is probably colluding with Twitch because I don't see any other reason for why Youtube would delay overhauling their livestreaming ecosystem into something that competes with Twitch. Debloat the chat, combine Live and Gaming under a single directory that has extensive search filters, and fix reuploading stream VODs so they don't end up in the video tab where people won't find them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50889417
Kick. Bring your community on over. Just don't explicitly state Kick on Twitch or else they will ban you just cause.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50889417
Youtube is good if you actually have an active base of clippers who are upping your discoverability already. If not you might want to start publishing your own clips there before making the switch.

[Anonymous No.]

Is Kick something more than a front for a betting website?

[Anonymous No.]

>>50889848
I don't like how sketchy that website seems as much as I like the terms of service.
>>50889948
Youtube seems good but I'm worried about discoverability, chat latency, emotes not being able to be used on other channels and less interactability. I talk a lot with my chat and I fear that could be lost with Youtube.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50890284
Chat latency on Youtube seems even better than Twitch

[Anonymous No.]

>>50890284
The biggest issue with any other alternative is the longevity of the platform. Only youtube is guaranteed to still be here a decade from now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50890284
Just try it. You will be affiliated with first 75 Followers within 7 days of streaming with your community. Ignore all the Adin Ross and betting streams and just purely focus on Vtubers/Gaming and you be set.

Also. You can use the SoraYuki Multi-RTMP plugin for OBS to Multi-cast on all platforms bucking their ToS. What's Twitch going to do? Ban you? If they do. Simply tell your community to go elsewhere. The more streamers they ban. The less $ Twitch as a whole would make.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50886753
Well they killed Mixer, the actual competitor

[Anonymous No.]

>>50875829
where are the twitch fanboys? last time one of them got triggered because a gif shat on twitch, why you so quiet now?

[Anonymous No.]

>>50875829
This will not happen. If anyone tried it they'd notice they immediately lost most of their viewers, negating any benefits they gain in freedom to shill gfuel and raid shadow legends, and come crawling back to Twitch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50875829
we gonna pretend Twitch hasnt been losing shit tons of money for years now? Amazon has been keeping it afloat like the NBA keeps the WNBA afloat aka paying their bills.

Hopefully Amazon peeps get fed up and just shut down twitch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50890284
>emotes not being able to be used on other channels
i dont understand the need for this. I used to be hard core twitch fag and people raiding with other emotes was always shit.

btw the other stuff is minor compared to the fact that you will earn money with YT vod views. There is a reason some twitch streamers still just dump their VODs on youtube.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50890284
>>50889417
If you are actually a good content creator/ entertainer people will find you. If you are shit and have thousands of muted tab people supporting you and having your stream on the side you wont make it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50882552
Fuck trannies done quick
I'm more concerned about filian

[Anonymous No.]

>>50890284
The only thing that really matters is how long you want your career to last and if the platform you choose will outlive it. Twitch is slowly going down. It's a proof that any platform with similar monetization scheme is not really sustainable and will end up in the same way.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50891507
This, you can also try making videos from time to time to test the algorithm or make highlights of streams, a lot of people like that stuff.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50880296
weird flex but ok

[Anonymous No.]

>disagree with them and fuck off
>need to pay the cuck tax

[Anonymous No.]

>the only ads you can have on your stream are the 2 minute long ones we run, fucking slaves

[Anonymous No.]

>>50882552
anything that hurts GDQ is a good thing, fuck those tranny enablers

[Anonymous No.]

>>50890284
Twitch or YouTube but not Kick. Nobody watches Kick besides the viewers of already big streamers. And none of those people watch vtubers.

[Anonymous No.]

I can't stop smiling.
Twitch ecelebs are always so eager to prove how cool they are that they often attack the audience.
It made me happy that the day came when Youtubers who try to entertain the audience will win.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50877851
Youtube doesn't get a cut from those adverts, the disclaimers are there for legal reasons. Twitch is pulling a Tony Soprano and wants to skim off the top of every ad read.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50875829
OTK is separate from Mythic. Mythic could leave too but I doubt it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50875999
and you will never be a woman

[Anonymous No.]

>>50891043
and Youtube is making money? it's not about making money but about keeping a presence so no other potential competition can take that place.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50891043
Pretty sure neither of them have ever turned a profit. If your gonna hate on twitch at least think of something that doesn't make you look retarded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50894395
Youtube doesn't make profit directly, but Google is in the data business and Youtube is farming it from billions of people every day.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50894606
and you think Twitch doesn't sell people's data, good one

[Anonymous No.]

>>50876132
The chat gpt war with google does have a side effect to youtube, they been spending billion on their own version of chat gpt and now they want to minimised some losses, google will squeeze every revenue that leaking from youtube in coming years.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50894606
>>50894700
Just like Google uses Youtube data, Amazon uses Twitch data

[Anonymous No.]

>>50878518
i have literally never seen this
just use ublock origin

[Anonymous No.]

>>50878210
Kick probably better for them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50894700
The problem is that Twitch doesn't have as much data to sell. Sure, they can see who you watch/follow, but how do they know if you actually liked a stream? How do they know what your specific interests are. YouTube can pinpoint exactly what your interests are and use that data to recommend you more of what you want, and advertisers love that. Twitch doesn't have that kind of precision which is why most of the ads on it are generic Amazon crap.

[Anonymous No.]

In spite of such a huge amount of ads, Twitch people aren't making any money on Twitch channel by itself.
No wonder Silver and nyanner want to leave Vshojo and stream on other platforms.

[Anonymous No.]

Twitch is actually reclining unlike YouTube tho……. Also YouTube actually managed to get people to buy YouTube premium.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50893712
What kind of mental illness is this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>50877853
All of the current holoID members still have the streamlabs and the new sociabuzz dono link in their video description. Unless hololive have a deal with sociabuzz, the future ID generations will probably just use SCs.

[Anonymous No.]

Where the fuck are they gonna go? No one gives a shit about Kick and Youtube has had the same rules Twitch are just putting in for years now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50895092
If you ever want anything from Twitch you have to link to your other stuff. connect twitch with your paypal/battlenet/moogleshit do you know how much power you are giving away for a few drops in a game? They send me emails when i didn't watch watch someone i follow for a month or two, they collect anything they can.
Oh but youtube knows when people give a like.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50890284
>emotes not being able to be used on other channel
I might just be a salty boomer, but site-wide emotes and animated emotes piss me off.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50895656
YouTube because even though YouTube technically has a similar rule they don't even bother enforcing it and they give a better cut of revenue for everything else.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50895656
Yes, from now on, Twitch streamers need to maintain the exact same professionalism as Youtubers.
So who will stay on Twitch with no archive, lots of ads, and the worst community?

[Anonymous No.]

>>50890284
>>emotes not being able to be used on other channel
I can't tell if you are joking or serious.
On Youtube, you don't need to know Mr.beast to enjoy the content, but on Twitch, if you don't know connor, you can't understand anything.
Twitch, like MCU, already requires so much knowledge that I am fed up with it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50895207
Terminal unproductive consumer syndrome

[Anonymous No.]

>>50894808
What fucking data
Google algorith recomends and see trends in content
The only shit twitch is gonna sell is whih streamer has more views. They have little analytics to sell.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50896310
Yeah getting into twitch culture just requires more effort for the casual viewer

[Anonymous No.]

>>50876747
>>moving to Youtube
>>having to directly face against Hololive, PC and Nijisanji
>Yeah, sure the chuubas will move to Youtube. 100% guaranteed.
they would be RAPED & WOULD SHIT BLOOD NIGAA

[Anonymous No.]

>>50875829
>move to youtube
>find they can't do react content
OTK NOW ON RUMBLE

[Anonymous No.]

>>50875829
Mythic doesn't control where their talents stream

[Anonymous No.]

>>50876747
>>>>>PC

[Anonymous No.]

>>50896076
Pretty much everyone apart from a few big streamers that get a 7 or 8 figure offer to go elsewhere. Same as usual.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50889779
>I don't see any other reason for why Youtube would delay overhauling their livestreaming ecosystem into something that competes with Twitch
How new are you?
This is YouTube's MO and has been since Google took over in 2007. They will change and update literally everything about the site EXCEPT the things that need to be fixed.
Have you ever tried to look at your comment history? It used to be housed in-site but now inexplicably redirects to a Google account page, has for years.
YouTube's streaming is now and has always been an afterthought.
"Improvement" is not in YouTube's vocabulary.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50875975
the tl;dr is twitch wants total control of all advertisement revenue and is banning stuff like banners, logos or any "manual" ads and other forms of non-amazon sponsorship.

[Anonymous No.]

Twitchildren's Ultimate Coping!!!!
I understand that it is hard to learn new things when you are over 30, but your coping is cringe.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50880060
>he thinks vshitjo rejects and some literally whos can compete against hololive

[Anonymous No.]

>>50891538
And are these trannies done quick in the thread with us right now?

[Anonymous No.]

>>50898463
>he considers hololive to be just an equal to niji and phase
....

[Anonymous No.]

>>50899190
Phasefags are akin to mosquitos

[Anonymous No.]

So, does Cover making their own streaming platform seem better now? They plan years ahead. When everyone is using Apple VR squeezing their oshi's boobies.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50899757
You people talk about 'streaming platform' like people who buy a car and get shocked that they have to constantly pay for petrol. Like it's just a matter of writing software. Who do you think they're going to pay for bandwidth and hosting? That's right, it's still Amazon. All of their network job postings specify AWS. If Twitch can't afford it being literally part of the company with massively discounted rates and has to actually figure out how to not lose money, what makes you think Cover can?

[Anonymous No.]

>>50876747
delusional phasenigger

[Anonymous No.]

>>50900662
Quality > Quantity

[Anonymous No.]

caring about mythic in 2023.

i really hope you don't.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50882552
lol gdq has been a money grab from the start. all the owner's are millionaires despite being like 100 viewer andy's because they syphon money off through the event.

[Anonymous No.]

Any kickchads here?

[Anonymous No.]

>>50903646
no one here has money to gamble on stake, we all live in basements.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50877578
>>50877706
Amazon isn't twitch dumbass, amazon as a whole is rich but they didn't get rich by constantly subsidising money losing ventures.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50903837
aws was a huge money sink for years.

[Anonymous No.]

Maybe Youtube can fix their fucking chatbox so it isn't fucking shit. Also all the Twitch kiddies will hate not having all their cross channel emotes so the audience will not last long.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50903646
All I know about it is ass (literal)

[Anonymous No.]

every aspect about live streaming on youtube is like pulling teeth. corpos only do it because you can easily viewbot the fuck out of it and no one will question it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50903906
And so is twitch, the thing is that aws eventually turned around and started making money whereas twitch is still losing money even after several years

[Anonymous No.]

>>50904115

[Anonymous No.]

>>50904205
the amount twitch loses per year is grossly overestimated. they don't actually lose that much.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50904247
>looks at youtube comments on videos
>1000 comments of "hi i'm mrbeast click this link to get an iphone"

but yeah i'm sure that no one is viewbotting streams right

[Anonymous No.]

>>50904279
If they weren't losing that much they wouldn't be scrambling to milk more money out of their platform to the point where they are killing their primary draw

[Anonymous No.]

used to be only twitch but youtube is way better

[Anonymous No.]

>>50904479
bro let me give you a hint

they EARNED 2.6 billion last year

[Anonymous No.]

>>50904479
when idiots like nash say twitch is losing money, they don't mean physically losing money, they mean losing potential earnings because they do certain things.

[Anonymous No.]

Youtube's ad policy is the same and is rarely (if ever) enforced against actual content creators, the logo thing is the only difference and that's probably either getting rolled back or not going to be enforced either. I might be missing something but this doesn't seem like a massive deal

[Anonymous No.]

>>50879975
Rookie numbers, a few months back I got a 2 hour long unskippable ad on my tv which prompted me to immediately install smart tube next.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50904115
Lol compared to twitch where you can copy a stream onto tabs and embed it and it all counts so you can look like 100 viewers off your smartfridge? Youtube is paranoid as fuck about that and has only ever been culling. It's a different structure all around - Youtube wants real viewers because bots just fuck up the analytics metrics it measures for its algos because they aren't real people. Twitch wants someone, anyone, to sit through all the mandatory ads and the more the merrier.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50904479
>they wouldn't be scrambling to milk more money out
LMAO

[Anonymous No.]

>>50894808
Meta content aside, Youtube's videos are more useful. Twitch is mostly game content or static camera angles of a single person sitting in their room. Remember, according to Larry Page the stated prime reason and objective for Google's existence is to build an synthetic AI god, to achieve AGI (and therefore rule the world with it). The core limitation on today's AI models is the raw amount of training data (i.e. the chinchilla thesis). It turns out that for as big as the internet is we've basically hit the cap for text datasets harvested from its complete content in terms of total tokens. But the next step is to train the models directly on video content, of which Google (through Youtube) has the single biggest repository of general and unedited video content on the planet. As such Google has a vested interest in accruing as much of that extremely valuable data as possible, and may be able to justify keeping Youtube alive forever even if it's a massive permanent money sink.

[Anonymous No.]

pretty based for amazon. fuck these stealth corpo streamers who blast their propaganda for free.

it will be quite interesting for chuubas tho, will the migration and culture clash bring about a flourishing new community or bring about the worst of twitch simping culture? i hope it will be harder for them to do react content at the very least

[Anonymous No.]

>>50882552
>GDQ will have to lose event sponsors, let go of management staff, and return to the 'a dozen dudes in brosentia's basement' era
the horror

[Anonymous No.]

Good. That shithole site should've died years ago, can't even pause or rewind streams and the vods never work properly.

[Anonymous No.]

>twitter is dying
>reddit is dying
>twitch is dying
Bros I'm scared

[Anonymous No.]

>>50909457
There will be no serious migration, anyone who does will see huge damage to their numbers because as anyone with a manager will tell you, streaming on your YT account (Which most seem to be looking at instead of an alt YT) will absolutely tank your numbers, it's destroyed so many accounts it isn't even funny.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50910195
I see no downsides to any of those going away, besides their refugees coming here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50910126
Most corpos on Youtube disable rewinding on their streams though?