/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

Calli:
>hard-working
>multi-tasks
>finishes projects
>keeps everyone up to date on things
>learns from mistakes
>always improving
>loves her fans
========
>hated

Gura:
>lazy
>can't do even simple tasks
>can barely finish anything
>ghosts everyone
>makes the same mistakes repeatedly
>is getting worse
>hates her fans
========
>beloved

Where is the justice in this world?

[Anonymous No.]

>>50819796
It’s pretty simple anon, calli is a whore who can’t stop collabing with holostars, gura is a pure idol who ignores those faggots like the plague, that’s why people like gura more

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>>50819849
Calli is more of an idol than Gura at this point.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50819796
loli > big tits simple as

[Anonymous No.]

>>50819849
Gura probably has a higher body count than Mori though

[Anonymous No.]

>>50819796
Mori:
>Male collaber
>Friends with Trash taste
>Bad music
>Ironic anime fan

Gura:
>Ignores Tempiss
>Ignores Nijiwhores
>Girls-only mentality
>Actual anime girl

[Anonymous No.]

>>50819959
I don’t remember her being added to holosummer

[Anonymous No.]

>>50819995
>Low self esteem clout chaser not a whore

[Anonymous No.]

>>50820009
You forgot:
>Ignores Ina's birthday
>ignores her fans

[Anonymous No.]

>>50820043
So chumbuds are just making shit up now. That's great.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50819796
What matters is that you create a safe space for those who look to emotionally invest into anime girls. Be cgdct or GFE. Mori is none of that, while Gura is. If Gura started to do activity that broke any of the former, she can kiss goodbye to her numbers, Because with how lazy she is, there would be no saving.

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>>50819959
It doesn't matter anon, because is as what>>50820224 said.

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>>50820224
>If Gura started to do activity
lol
lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>50820308
It does matter because Gura is a lazy shithole.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50820009
>Ironic anime fan
>Gura's empty top ten list.

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>>50820224
>safe space
I cannot belive you idiots actually said that unironically LOL
Holy fuck you are no different that these terminally online twitter freaks
grow a spine dude

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>>50819796
you forgot to mention that mori is just know doing all these things because her numbers are in the shitter and she's trying to get back into holobox good grace.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50819796
Gura has a personality (at least on stream) and voice that makes most people really like her. Calli is an acquired taste.

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>>50820645
Faggot unicorns are literally one day away from going full tranny. Yeah yeah yeah, you only want cute girls and nothing else we get it. You want to be a girl.
When girls pander to the rabid yuri fans and don't offer anything else like music or actual funny streams, you get stuck with trannies in denial like you who constantly demand a "safe space". Even Kiara who lives by CGDCT does music and streams niche things to keep KFP not grossed out.

[Anonymous No.]

Calli:
>fat disgusting wigger
>whore for cocks
>hates vtubing culture
>bad musician
>can't even call her a singer because rap is a subhuman artform

Gura:
>adorable weeb
>pure, cute and funny
>loves anime and vtubing culture
>great karaoke singer
>does what she can when she can

Gee I wonder why people hate one but love the other

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>>50820958
Impressive that you managed to make such a list of things of which none are true.

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>>50819959
I never said she wasn’t an idol, i said she is not a pure idol, she can call herself an idol and dance on a stage all fucking day but she’s a whore and therefore we don’t respect her

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>>50820958
>Gura:
>>adorable weeb
>>loves anime and vtubing culture
anon.....

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>>50820414
KEK never let them forget. the fucking gall on chumbuds to call anyone an ironic anime fan when their oshit can’t even name 10 animes

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>>50820958
Lmao do your reps retard, literally every single one of those is true (at least for calli)

[Anonymous No.]

>>50820157
Gura had the Wither Minecraft fight delayed until Ina could return from her radio silent "health" break. I doubt she missed Ina's birthday for no reason and there is something going on between her and management.

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>>50821168
A "pure" idol wouldn't hate her fans and avoid work.

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>>50821243
Meant for >>50821129

[Anonymous No.]

>>50821243
>>50821302
Lmao you can't even reply properly, you retard.

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>>50821286
Except that’s completely unrelated, all she has to do to be a pure idol is avoid collabing with the opposite gender… that’s it, if calli dropped holostars and made a formal statement saying she would never collab with them again, she’d unironically gain thousands of viewers overnight and virtually all of the hate towards her would disappear

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>>50821370
At least my oshi hasn’t declined into complete irrelevancy deadcuck, kiara regularly mogs mori nowadays

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>>50821397
>all she has to do to be a pure idol is avoid collabing with the opposite gender
You've clearly never seen real idols before.

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>>50821443
Okay? I like Kiara too because she actually streams and works hard like Calli and unlike Gura.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50819796
It's ok anon
If it makes you feel better, I hate them both equally

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>>50821485
What part of “pure idol” does your ESL brain not comprehend? And the operative word is “avoid” as in don’t actively seek them out. An idol appearing on a talk show with some 40 year old man as host is different from them doing a song collab with another idol group of the opposite gender (which rarely happens)

[Anonymous No.]

>>50821485
Real idols collab with professional males such as actors and comedians.
No male vtuber is a "professional". It's just a random streamer using an anime avatar who can flirt with the girls at any given time and talk in private under the excuse of being coworkers.

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>>50821568
Jesus there any non-ESLs in this thread? You completely missed the point of what I said, i’m saying kiara always been a runt and yet she regularly outperforms calli which proves that calli fell off and it’s not just hololive that fell off, it is specifically calli that people stopped watching, not the others

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>>50821736
This, people say “oh real idols collab with males all the time”… yes they do, but not other idols of the opposite gender, all male idol groups and all female idol groups generally avoid collaborations because they appeal to different demographics

[Anonymous No.]

so is this thread just to contain a cat fight between a deadbeat sister and chumbud sister?

[Anonymous No.]

>>50821662
Hololive only has a few song collabs with Holostars. Collabing with a male in a stream, on the other hand, is the exact same thing as an idol appearing on a talk show with some 40 year old man as host. If you disagree, then /vt/ drama has poisoned your mind.

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>>50821743
I think you missed the point of this entire thread because that's exactly the problem that OP pointed out, retard.

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>>50821278
So she's fucking petty, how un-idol like.

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>>50821868
No, this is just dramafags and numbernigs starved for attention.
Gura is the hot topic and deadbeats are exiled to global and morig so they can just write whatever they want and reply to themselves in a circlejerk that goes on forever and ever.

[Anonymous No.]

Whoever calls Gura an "anime fan" is a fucking retard. Still waiting on that anime list of hers

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>>50821168
all idols are whores anon

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>>50820157
That's not the first birthday that Gura has ignored and it won't be the last

[Anonymous No.]

Why do deadbeats insist on wanting a target on their backs?

[Anonymous No.]

Mori:
Collabs and talks to homo's

Gura:
Ignores them

That's why

[Anonymous No.]

>>50820224
>safe
>space
Somebody please nuke this shithole of a board. It's beyond saving at this point
>"It was actually being ironic/baiting for (You)s
Sure thing, faggot

[Anonymous No.]

2.434%ers are pinning Hololive fans against each other again...

[Anonymous No.]

>>50822673
Nah, I believe deadbeats are truly this fucking stupid.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50819796
>Calli
But also 9 streams scheduled for this week with (one endurance) v 11 all year.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50819796
Gura
>is cute
Calli
>is not cute

There's your answer.

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>>50820224
No Anon. That's what matters to *you*. Unicorns are a small minority of vtuber fans, yes even on /vt/. People are invested in these girls because they stream, produce music, and engage with their fans.

Gura does none of these three things.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50822926
So why are Mori's numbers so abysmal?

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>>50819849
easy to do when you barely stream or do anything that might cause friction
she had no objections to doing mixed collabs in her past so she's a hypocrite farming money from 'cgcdt' enjoyers

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>>50822867

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>>50820958
Cuckbuds cant stop defending this ghosting whore who views them like atms.

>tummy hurt, sunburm hort... Sorry chumbos...
>VALENTINES $$$ LEECHING, MERCH SHILL? YES SIGN ME UP

[Anonymous No.]

>>50819849
>>50820009
>>50822641
>penis penis penis penis
Happy pride month!

[Anonymous No.]

>>50822809
I believe you're a retard and need to get the fuck off this board.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50821743
0 streams

[Anonymous No.]

>>50823035
You know your dumb fat piece of shit is going to fuck up again, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>50822867
>Calli
>>is not cute
Factually wrong

[Anonymous No.]

>>50823078
Gura ignores her fans. She hates you lol. Enjoy silence.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50823078
I don't care what you think, nijifag.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50822997
Why does it mean anyone has to watch Mori or even like that stupid e-celeb cocksucker?

[Anonymous No.]

>>50823078
Anon, your doxxthread yesterday backfired in which you kept replying to yourself about hot "fat" she is. You have nothing left.

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>>50820009
Mori:
>plays with male coworkers on stream for content

Gura:
>plays with male friends behind the scenes while ignoring her fans

Do cuckbuds unironically prefer the 2nd? She didn't even do a good job hiding her tracks considering the shit that can be linked to her official hololive twitch account

[Anonymous No.]

>>50823212
I like that you think that's some forbidden knowledge at this point.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50823182
Mori actually deserves it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50823179
>cuckbeats acting up like the trash they've always been
>pull out the Nijicard

[Anonymous No.]

Speak for yourself. I hate Mori’s content. I can respect her as a person when she stays the fuck away from the people I do watch (and even then I just skip the collab, like I do with most male collabs).
Gura makes better content, but way less of it, and also she’s either lazy or menhera or (most likely) both. I have no respect for her as a person.
It’s possible to separate the art from the creator. More anons should try to do that.

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>>50823182
Keep squeeling chumshart, maybe she'll come back on her birthday to throw some more merch for you to burn money on only for her to ghost you until 2024.

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>>50823315
No, she doesn't. She's garbage. Her content is garbage. That's why Kiara does better than her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50823332
>I-I'm not a nijifan, I swear!
falseflag harder lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>50819796
Calli: unlikable
Gura: likable
It’s that simple.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50819849
I think understanding of the male brain is lost on them

[Anonymous No.]

>>50819796
Mori:
>resentful
>doesn't give a fuck about you
>cringe in a bad way
========
>hated

Gura:
>forgiving
>tries to make you feel at ease
>cringe in a good way
========
>beloved

Sounds right to me

[Anonymous No.]

>>50823423
She does. Your taste is shit, and your brain has been poisoned by /vt/ drama.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50823471
>doesn't give a fuck about you
sounds like gura right now with no communication or streams

[Anonymous No.]

>>50823407
Correct. Mori has no value and you can't sell her as an entertainer. Thanks for playing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50823269
There has been lots of activity on steam, but no streams to be found. Movie May had one film and the rest was trashed. She much prefers to play with her real buddies.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50823471
>forgiving

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>>50823471
>tries to make you feel at ease
>by ignoring you 24/7
delusional copebuds

[Anonymous No.]

>>50819796
Holocels would rather have their waifu quit streaming entirely than stream three times a week. That's just the way they are.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50823471
Gura is forgiving? You mean she forgave enough to start banning criticism and concern from fans.

[Anonymous No.]

>Hey chumbuds! Don't worry! I won't play with a male on stream!
>doesn't stream anything
>plays with males off stream
>has sex with them
>I'm back, chumbies! Sorry, I was working on "projects". Did you miss me?
>does it again

[Anonymous No.]

>>50823488
Her numbers are fucking dogshit. She's garbage. She's trash. Her name recognition is at 100% and there's no way she can get advertised any more than she is and people still aren't biting. If she's so fucking great, revitalise the branch then. At least pay your debt for playing entirely solo for the first year of your debut, bitch.

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>>50820308
>Mori wasn't invited to the event where holos literally slut themselves out
>Gura was
Really makes you think

[Anonymous No.]

>>50823736
weird cuck fantasy but ogey

[Anonymous No.]

chumbuds be like

[Anonymous No.]

>>50823738
Gura hours in 2023: 32

enjoy your six hours a month, cuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>50819849
fpbp

[Anonymous No.]

>>50823828
>posting it here too
I can taste the seething

[Anonymous No.]

>>50823738
she has better VOD views than all of Myth combined

[Anonymous No.]

>>50823834
Once again, not selling Mori. Because as we all know, she has no value to actually sell as an entertainer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50823738
Wew, you seem butthurt. Did Mori rape your anus, bro?

[Anonymous No.]

>>50823828
that's the level of memes deadbeats produce huh?

[Anonymous No.]

>>50823888
>can't defend Mori on her merits
>uhh butthurt?
Fuck me deadbeats are retarded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50823834
Yeah, and even after soft graduating she's still more relevant than Mori

[Anonymous No.]

>>50823828
kek saved

[Anonymous No.]

>>50823906
nah idk who made this i yoinked it from /ggg/

[Anonymous No.]

>>50823947
lmao stay mad

[Anonymous No.]

>>50823863
She can't even hit 90k on most streams. Fuck you on about?

[Anonymous No.]

>>50823125
Her model is cute but she’s played by a massive wigger

[Anonymous No.]

I don't really get your drive to do this, they have two very different appeals. You're suggesting vegan food to people who like burgers. Why would the guys who want the tiny cute one switch to basically her opposite? There's no marketing opportunity here, you're just filling up space.

>>50823736
Women without boyfriends honestly just do psycho shit until they have a boyfriend again and the women who stay single to do psycho shit deliberately are usually bad news. They do stupid shit like party and drink lean and ego concept albums.

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>>50819796
Chumcucks are simply getting what was coming to them

[Anonymous No.]

>>50824037

[Anonymous No.]

>>50824037
NTA
He's probably including MV views

[Anonymous No.]

>>50824037
go check the stats

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>>50823435
You guys are actually stupider then fish, why tf would a nijinigger shit on calli for doing male collabs… do you not see how that’s the most braindead logic on the planet? Next you’re gonna say that all the mori anti’s are secretly fans of connor and ironmouse

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>>50824168
chumbuds?? our response?????

[Anonymous No.]

How did we go from this...

[Anonymous No.]

Reminder that they are paid in VIEWS, it doesn't matter how they get it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50824301
back when she gave a crap
i miss those days too as a chumbeat

[Anonymous No.]

>>50823834
I’d rather have 0 hours of streams then any hours of homocollabs

[Anonymous No.]

>>50824301
She got bored of her chummies since she can make millions of dollars by doing nothing. There is no need to waste time on her creepy fans.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50824234
Is this the best chumbuds got? Grim.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50819796
>fat
>alcoholic
>unfunny bitch

>cute
>lovely
>nice and funny

[Anonymous No.]

>>50824301
....to this

[Anonymous No.]

>>50824168
>>50824234
>MVcope
At that point you might as well throw other "vtubers" into the mix who do other content and have more views

[Anonymous No.]

>>50824423
At least they do Something.

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>>50824347
>her numbers are terrible
>post proof showing otherwise
>i-is that the best you got?(deflection)
>>50824423
her music is terrible and no one listens to them but somehow she has MV views?
what is this fucking cope

[Anonymous No.]

Mori's antis have nothing anymore. She hasn't yabbed in years. It's over for them.

Gura is now the punching bag of 2023.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50824468
we had the orange cycle then the pink cycle then the yellow cycle now it's time for blue baby

[Anonymous No.]

>>50824468
>not a new IP

[Anonymous No.]

>>50824423
Yes, we should.

[Anonymous No.]

Everyone shits on Gura these days, her members are always having a meltdown to the point her manager had to intervene in chat

[Anonymous No.]

>>50824451
I dunno how you live with being so intentionally stupid all the time
Anyway, taste has no bearing on popularity, in fact you could make the argument it's reverse

[Anonymous No.]

>>50820224
>create a safe space for those who look to emotionally invest into anime girls
The only safe space for (You) is six feet underground

[Anonymous No.]

>>50824468
Mori got her fair share of deserved hate, but chumshits still have the nerve to defend their greedy money hungry jew bitch. The more they try to defend her fake medical excuses and zero streams, the more it comes back to bite.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50824468
>I'm the giant shithead now! *beams*
kek you are a bitch and a loser, congrats

[Anonymous No.]

>>50820224
>safe space
Do chumbuds really?

[Anonymous No.]

>>50819796
>Calli

[Anonymous No.]

>>50819849
Gura is not an idol. Idols don't release one original song in almost 3 years.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50824337
careful what you say because that's becoming reality

[Anonymous No.]

>>50824589
so popularity is only an indicator of taste when it's in gura's favor, got it. regardless i don't know how you can call either of them a 'failure' like some were calling mori above

[Anonymous No.]

>>50824696
shut up musicfag

[Anonymous No.]

>>50824423
views are views my dude youtube pays them all the same

[Anonymous No.]

>>50824696
but she's busy with projects
source: trust her bro

[Anonymous No.]

>>50824168
Those are music views which are known for bringing in next to no money cause those videos are too short to put ads on, but keep on coping cuckbeat

[Anonymous No.]

>>50824731
I never called either of them failures, I'm saying it's disingenuous to compare apples to oranges like these morons seem intent on doing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50820224
>safe space
Do trannybuds unironically use language like this? Holy shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50819796
It's called moe.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50824820
???
youtube throws ads on all videos no matter how short at the start

[Anonymous No.]

>>50824785
If by "projects" you mean "sucking dicks" then yes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50824731
How about this, look up any reaction video from an actual rapper to calli’s music and not from some smelly weeb who listens to nothing but anime OPs, calli is literally the laughing stock of the rap industry, no one takes her seriously except for holofans, oh and the fact that she’s said the N word before doesn’t help her popularity with rappers

[Anonymous No.]

>>50824820
If that were true, no music company would put any of their songs on YouTube since they wouldn't make money off it.

[Anonymous No.]

>musical artist creates one song that gets a billion views
greatest vtuber of all time...I kneel

[Anonymous No.]

>>50824785
so many projects! 1 song in 3 years btw. Kiara is releasing a complete album despite streaming the most in EN.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50824953
nigger hands typed this

[Anonymous No.]

>>50824765
Truth hurts doesn't it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>50824878
Yeah and those ads make next to no money because they’re all like 5 seconds or skipped instantly. Not to mention, youtube won’t give you ads back to back, so if you’re listening to a bunch of calli songs, you may get one ad every three songs, not one at the start of each video, which will make next to no money

[Anonymous No.]

>>50825082
The truth about idols is that it has nothing to do with music, brainlet. Now go back to /mu/.

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>>50824996
Nigga this is a verifiable fact, money isn’t made from music streaming, artists make 99 percent of their money from merch and concerts, however no one will buy your merch or go to your concert if they’ve never heard your music before, hence why it’s on youtube. There are screenshots of people with millions of views on spotify who earn a check for like 10 bucks

[Anonymous No.]

>>50824785
hmm, should I trust her or trust a bunch of obsessed schizos who make shit up every day
what a difficult decision

[Anonymous No.]

>>50825161
Your right. The perfect ignores their fans.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50824953
LMAO THE RAP INDUSTRY
LIKE I GIVE A FUCK ABOUT THEM
MUMBLE RAP IS WHAT'S POPULAR RIGHT NOW
AND FUCKING BRAINDEAD RAPPERS WITH NAMES LIKE LIL XXX
fuck off

[Anonymous No.]

Deadbeats won
Chumbuds lost
Its that simple

[Anonymous No.]

>>50824953
Mori is switching to a rock focused style anyway, which is a white genre of music, so who cares what the rap/black community thinks

[Anonymous No.]

>>50825070
Nah i just like bringing up that calli used to say the N word cause it’s funny, i call people niggers all the time and i think most rap sucks, but it doesn’t change the fact that she is trying to be a rapper and even by rap standards, her music is generic weeaboo garbage

[Anonymous No.]

>>50825161
>The truth about idols is that it has nothing to do with music
Chumbuds have brain damage.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50825313
yea but those artists don't also have regular vods so obviously most of their money is made from merch and concerts

[Anonymous No.]

>>50824589
so does she have bad numbers cause she sucks or does she have good numbers cause she sucks?
can you decide on a line of reasoning?

[Anonymous No.]

>>50825366
trust what content has been put out there in the last 3 years because of these 'projects' and you'll have the answer and whether she's really busy with them

[Anonymous No.]

>>50825412
Won what? The right to collab with a bunch of faggots at the cost of 2/3rds of your CCV?

[Anonymous No.]

>>50825375
I'd ignore them way worse than she is. She's actually pretty nice all things considered.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50825561
CCV is a meme stat like the 3-point shot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50825434
You write like a 12 year old.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50825561
zzzzzzzz

[Anonymous No.]

>>50825611
Chumbud... You don't have to live like this...

[Anonymous No.]

>>50825561
Nta but Mori is happy, her fans seem pretty content, and she’s getting to perform on stage with one of her favorite groups soon. I think she’s doing pretty good for herself

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>>50825450
Yeah except mori’s regular vods get terrible viewership, the whole reason we were talking about music views is cause you guys were coping saying “muh calli gets more views”, but those views are fucking worthless and make no money which is why we ignore those, what actually matters is viewership on streams and CCV because those translate to ad revenue and donations

[Anonymous No.]

>>50825561
>0 streams
>Ghosting
>hates her fans
>Lies about resting
>prefers to play offline with belle delphine

[Anonymous No.]

>>50825161
>The truth about idols is that it has nothing to do with music
Possibly the most retarded thing I've read this year.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50824106
A massively cute wigger

[Anonymous No.]

>>50825557
indeed, should I trust the things she says, especially after how hard she worked for the first year and all the things that happened afterwards, or the schizos
man I can't make my mind up

[Anonymous No.]

>>50825441
>I don't understand it so it must be wrong!
>>50825510
I'm not saying either mental midget, I'm saying there's no coherent correlation to make any conclusion either way

[Anonymous No.]

>>50825561
that wasn't the reason for her decline in ccv. it's her all over the place stream schedule she had for a bit that made it really hard to follow along for anyone in NA

[Anonymous No.]

>>50825630
I accept your concession, now get lost faggot

[Anonymous No.]

>>50824841
Neither one of these women are called moe

[Anonymous No.]

>>50825690
CHUMBUDS? WHAT IS THAT? A LIST OF DATES AND STREAM TITLES? I'VE NEVER SEEN ANYTHING LIKE IT

[Anonymous No.]

>>50825690
>More streams in one week than gura has done all year
Fucking grim

[Anonymous No.]

>>50819796
that's becauae she's fat.
no one likes fat people.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50825746
I am and you will keep seething
>>50825775
I know abstract concepts are beyond your grasp, but I don't expect antis to have IQs higher than average

[Anonymous No.]

>>50825788
so where are these projects?

[Anonymous No.]

>>50825752
It's only worthless in your mind, seething cuckbud.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50825753
>her fans seem pretty content
The ones that are left that is aka a small fraction of what her fanbase used to be
Because you know her fans were discontent to the point of leaving

[Anonymous No.]

>>50825844
pretty sure the total stream hours will exceed gura's yearly output so far since she's been doing short ones

[Anonymous No.]

>>50825629
CCV translates into donations and memberships so not really. CCV by itself means nothing but it’s representative of other stats that matter way more such as the size of your fanbase and number of members. The only people who say CCV doesn’t matter are coping hard

[Anonymous No.]

>>50825947
Are you talking about chumbuds?

[Anonymous No.]

>>50825894
Your jew oshi is nothing that resembles any idol that I know of. Who would idolize a lazy shart who sits home all day with all the free time the world and doesn't stream or interact with fans?

[Anonymous No.]

>>50825895
should I believe she's trying to get those projects ready for a big event such as her birthday, especially after how she couldn't get them done for last year because Cover offered her no support at all given how they were too busy shilling the homos? no way, I'd rather trust the schizos
yeah I've made my decision

[Anonymous No.]

>>50825926
Did you read my previous post retard? They’re worthless because they make absolutely no money, which is a very well known fact in the music industry, music streaming makes next to no money

[Anonymous No.]

>>50825982
but If you're a musical artist alongside being a vtuber, then you have different sources of exposure.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50825791
It is wrong because your made up notion of what an idol is so wrong. What is an idol to you then, huh? A girl who streams video games all day? Gura doesn't even do that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50825982
no it doesn't
the biggest factor for donations is whether they're known for reading them all which is why mori has a higher total sc overall

[Anonymous No.]

>>50825690
Chumbabies in shambles

[Anonymous No.]

>>50825947
Probably, but now she has less schizos in her community and the fans that remain are still enough for her to live a comfortable life off of, and UMG is obviously still pleased with her earnings too. I don’t see the downside

[Anonymous No.]

>>50825823
>I accept your concession
Fuck off, kid.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50826064
yeah, Mori "leases two houses in two different countries" Calliope is really struggling with that aspect

[Anonymous No.]

>>50825982
>CCV translates into donations and memberships so not really.
Actually, donations and memberships translates into donations and memberships, which you can actually track. CCV means nothing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50825812
This is massive cope and you know it, it’s not a coincidence that she began declining after the trash taste collabs, not to mention all the least popular holos collab with holostars regularly

[Anonymous No.]

>>50826056
>She doesn't do what I find important! Wow I wonder why I don't appreciate her!
>>50826084
It doesn't matter to you because you clearly don't care. I don't ask you to understand why I like my favorite game or music. Go find something you can appreciate.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50826064
And you think CCV makes more money because...?

[Anonymous No.]

>>50826218
You’re actually brain dead, more ccv = more members and more people to donate, it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure this out

[Anonymous No.]

>>50826241
>it’s not a coincidence that she began declining after the trash taste collabs
'and other things I read on /vt/ and instantly believed'

[Anonymous No.]

>>50826118
>less fans means less schizo
that cope was dumb when clucks used it and it's dumb here as well

[Anonymous No.]

>>50826069
>exposure
Gura got a taco bell ad during the Superbowl. Meanwhile mori has to fucking cope and use roombate to promote

[Anonymous No.]

>>50826329
Because people get better paying ads and more of them retard when they watch a 3 hour stream vs a 3 minute song, plus all the additional memberships from live viewers

[Anonymous No.]

>>50819796
>Mori
whore
>Gura
not a whore

[Anonymous No.]

>>50824412
>>alcoholic
>not gura
chumkeks dont even know their oshi....
But understandable since they cant see her

[Anonymous No.]

>>50826409
>Meanwhile mori has to fucking cope
ye, she's really coping about another national TV appearance

[Anonymous No.]

>>50826297
What are you even talking about at this point? You don't know what idol means, and now you're just tell me to find a new hobby? Get the fuck to a mental hospital, retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50826510
seethe, brainlet

[Anonymous No.]

>>50826476
wait no I changed my mind actually being alcoholic is a good thing, put down drug addict or some shit on Mori's list

[Anonymous No.]

>>50826476
These are same people jumping through every hoop imaginable to defend Valentine's day money leeching and subsequent silence. And promised movie month followed by silence. And only getting a weeks worth of stream for a whole year.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50826354
At least check the numbers bonehead, she was doing perfectly fine until that and then she “coincidentally” began losing viewers left and right. And then there’s the other part where all the worst performing holos “coincidentally” all collab with holostars. Ollie is a prime example of someone who fell off because of male-collab spam, and now mori is following in her footsteps

[Anonymous No.]

>sorry
NAKED DOGEZA NNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

[Anonymous No.]

>>50819796
>Calli:
>>learns from mistakes
>>always improving

Did Calli make this thread?

[Anonymous No.]

>>50826438
None of that is true. Ad-revenue is only measured by VOD views, and you can measure superchats and memberships on their own. What do you think this is, Twitch?

[Anonymous No.]

>>50826537
retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>50826377
I mean I haven’t seen deadbeats sperg out at Mori in a long time, and she pretty much does whatever she wants now

[Anonymous No.]

>>50826681
Dude how actually retarded are you? I have spelled this out in every way possible, you must be special needs or something. More viewers = more people who can donate and more people who can buy memberships. A fucking 4 year old could figure this out

[Anonymous No.]

>>50825161
>The truth about idols is that it has nothing to do with music
How chumbuds can claim to be idolfags and liking "pure idol" while saying things like this?

Do as you preach to thers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50826811
Gura makes a pathetic amount of SCs compared to her sub count. Kiara makes more and she is the least subbed in EN.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50826780
>she pretty much does whatever she wants now
That's what she has been saying since debut
>I do whatever the fuck I want
was half her personality with the other half being a rap hoe. But then her numbers dipped and switched to pandering more than ever before
Clearly either her old self or current self was not "whatever she wants" because the two are incompatible with each other

[Anonymous No.]

>>50820224
>Safe space
She is good at keeping the fantasy, use the right word

[Anonymous No.]

>>50826811
You're retarded. More viewers != more donation/memberships. Calli and Kiara both get stupendously high amount of superchats despite having relatively low CCV. There is no correlation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50826847
The concept is literally above you, you are incapable of appreciating it, which is why you find fault with it. Enjoy your music though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50826924
chumsharts are mostly made up of greys and non hololive fans, the sjw type

[Anonymous No.]

>>50827102
copebuds.....

[Anonymous No.]

>>50826608
>At least check the numbers bonehead
I did
you're full of shit, especially since her subcount soared past Ame at that point, while they were neck and neck before
her live viewership was always mid because she was a HoloEN streaming exclusively in HoloJP saturated hours

[Anonymous No.]

>>50827164
....which disproves your claim that CCV = donations.

[Anonymous No.]

>Idols are almost exclusively musicians and artists, the quirks like being a vtuber are secondary.

>NO it isn't

What kind of stupidity is this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>50827324
Cumshot cope trying to redefine what an idol is because Gura doesn't fit the bill

[Anonymous No.]

I don't think westerners that have no concept of idol culture should discuss who is and isn't an idol
We should focus on calling Gura lazy and Calli a whore

[Anonymous No.]

>>50827324
the definition of an idol says nothing about music

[Anonymous No.]

>>50827461
when East-Asian countries use it, it does.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50827509
because of what it's derived from

[Anonymous No.]

>>50827461
Oh, so you mean to say that Gura is a religious idol that you worship and pay animal sacrifices to?

[Anonymous No.]

>>50827509
not even that: let me remind you:

[Anonymous No.]

>>50827575
>muh religion
kek
I don't know why I always have to explain things to people.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50827704
>I'm stalling because I know I don't have an answer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50827761
All I'll say is, don't seethe so hard from something you can't appreciate. Enjoy things you can.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50827704
No one can understand your gibberish, retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50819796
Cuckbeats, is this your oshi?

[Anonymous No.]

>>50819796
>hated
No self respecting Hololive fan hates Mori, only sunk-cost antis and braindead tourists like (you) who come from youtube.
Stop perpetuating this myth, newfag.

[Anonymous No.]

>It broke again.

[Anonymous No.]

50827991
No, actually. Those images arent the same person but you can think about that on your free vacation, retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50827461
>>50827509
Chumbuds really think they know about japanese culture and for that single reason they are unicorns
grim.....

[Anonymous No.]

>>50828228
I don't even hate Gura, but she should've communicated better. People aren't giving Mumei the same fit because she actually said she's sick and is continually communicating with Hoomans and her genmates.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50819796
>learns from mistakes
are you sure? I don't fully trust her yet

[Anonymous No.]

>>50828228
The funny thing is that you people don't even care about the music. There are other things that clearly matter to you more.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50828754
Anon, you're not fooling anyone.People have been legit inspired by Mori into doing vtuber stuff. Bae is an example, Shiina is another.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50819796
Most true deadbeats wish the shark well and hope she returns to regular streaming. Bone bros 4 life! Shitposts aside, We're worried about her too. I also do find the lack of information or concern elsewhere extremely weird too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50828906
So Baelz is a nepo hire like Sana ? That explains a lot why they suck/ed

[Anonymous No.]

>>50828906
I wasn't referring to those people

[Anonymous No.]

>>50828998
We are. We're not even attacking Gura. It's just that something has been replying to itself for the past two hours. I mean just look at the momentum of the thread as soon as the doxx was removed

[Anonymous No.]

>>50819796 (OP)
Fuck your homos and fuck your whores

[Anonymous No.]

>>50825778
A massively fat wigger.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50829385
cute, you saved a picture of your mom cosplaying

[Anonymous No.]

no goob very sad

[Anonymous No.]

>>50826346
you do know that Gura isnt even the top half of Donations within EN right? There's even some Tempus Members that make more than her

[Anonymous No.]

Let Gura work through her own stuff and hopefully find a good footing.
Let the idiots who cling to 2021 rrats about Mori be so worked up by their own hate that they develop a migraine.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50819796
Well one is a loli and both are shit opinions from this cesspool and dont reflect the actual vtuber community or their fanbase

[Anonymous No.]

>>50824766
Oh an actual retard wow. They don’t pay them all the same. They don’t even pay regular vods the same. Why talk out your ass when you could take a second to not look stupid

[Anonymous No.]

>>50824696
She’s released 2 originals on her channel and 3 on the main hololive channel

[Anonymous No.]

>>50830402
What the fuck is this cope

[Anonymous No.]

>>50826441
>>Gura
>not a whore
Eurotruck

[Anonymous No.]

>>50830402
No she fucking hasn't.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50823726
I'm just so tired of people always assuming the worst when it comes to being Gura. She is trying her best here! She can't keep up with comments everywhere, and people just assume that she hates her job and that she doesn't want to do it. It's not that she doesn't want to do the job. It's that I'm stressed and it's a lot for one person to do.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50819796
>brought gura to a air BnB druggie party
>gets gura raped and impregnated
>gura was never the same after this off collab
you cannot refute this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50820224
The only safe space for your kin is in the ground after you've been euthanized for wasting oxygen

[Anonymous No.]

>>50831663
Mori is a godmother to the child now

[Anonymous No.]

>>50819796
>learns from mistakes
she made errors that caused people to hate her. you gave the game away by including this line. try harder

[Anonymous No.]

>>50831663
It makes me sad when I read this because it reminds me there are people so stupid they unironically believe it…

[Anonymous No.]

>UM ACKSHEWLLY AN IDOL IS SOMEONE WHO IS LAZY AND SITS AROUND ALL DAY IN THEIR ROOM PLAYING VIDEO GAMES AND DOESN'T STREAM AND GHOSTS HER FANS FOR WEEKS AND AND AND AND...

[Anonymous No.]

>>50833573
Made me kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>50824301
Mori still has schedules like this

[Anonymous No.]

>>50829385
And this bad... how?

[Anonymous No.]

>using >calli instead of mori
>nobody notices
nuke this fucking board already

[Anonymous No.]

>>50826346
no it doesn't. it depends on your audience. gura has a shit load of casual greys who do neither

[Anonymous No.]

common chumbud L

[Anonymous No.]

>>50833573
She's going for a particular niche.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50837182
Even Anzu has more songs than Gura....

[Anonymous No.]

>>50824589
Since you seem to have Alzheimer's, I remind you that you were arguing that, since everyone hates her, she is doing worse numbers than Kiara.
Here, I helpfully saved your post >>50823738

[Anonymous No.]

>>50825412
But I want everyone to win.
Is that so hard?

[Anonymous No.]

>>50820224
>safe space
what is this tumblr?

[Anonymous No.]

>>50820958
>pure

i love gura, but you are a retard if you really think gura is innocent/pure

[Anonymous No.]

>>50819849
Calli was hated well before Holostars debuted

[Anonymous No.]

>>50819796
kill yourself cuckbeat

[Anonymous No.]

>>50833973
We already know they’re cuckbeats, what’s the fucking point anyway? Besides, the cuckbeats are saying that Mori has a better work ethic than the lazy shark, which I agree with even if I can’t stand Mori. It’s not relevant to the discussion.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50833573
Sometimes I wonder if she's filtering her audience hard because she's sick of being the frontline mascot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50844253
Do you though?

[Anonymous No.]

You have to be masochistic to be a kekbeat even worse than Goomba not streaming

[Anonymous No.]

>>50819796
Much of the Mori hate came for /vt/. Same with Gura.
Is it truly from Hololive fans?
These fans almost won:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLRDVCAQ6m0

Love the vtubers. Hate the fans.

[Anonymous No.]

>280 posts of gura and mori seethe
jesas

[Anonymous No.]

I like Mori and I like Gura. You fuckers need to go back to watching your trash anime and debating about best waifus. You're unable to enjoy things without bringing other people down you make me sick.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50850120
>You're unable to enjoy things without bringing other people down

[Anonymous No.]

>>50824696
No holo is an idol you stupid nigger

[Anonymous No.]

>>50827031
It is the right word, the concepts are literally the same thing. Fragile people needing to be sheltered from reality and coddled

[Anonymous No.]

>the once almighty chumbies utterly btfo by deadbeats of all people
Yeesh!

[Anonymous No.]

>>50819796
calli has a loyal base of 3k viewers that will watch any garbage she streams. it blows my mind how many of them are 4chinners lmao. just looking at her generals and replys to the amount of whiteknighting and bait threads cuckbeats make. kinda impressive honestly thats she managed to groom that many into doing that shit for her 24/7 /here/

on the other hand i just feel sorry for chumbuds having there oshi become blue ayame. my condolences. my suggestion is not investing on her anymore cause there are plenty of other vtubers that have same problems but dont ghost them and stack lies much as she does. she deserves the criticism but not from /here/ cause of false flagging dramafags. sadly she ignores most sites so kinda hard to make her listen to any

[Anonymous No.]

>>50828339
Mumei also streamed through her coughing fits for weeks before it got too bad to handle. Not like
>sunburn hort so I can't sit in front of a fucking computer

[Anonymous No.]

>>50852828
Mumei is actual parasocial with her fans. Gura is parasocial with her piggy's wallets.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50845194
What, that Mori works hard? Of course I do. I think she’s very inefficient with it and is probably somewhat lukewarm about Hololive overall, but it’s still better than whatever’s wrong with Gura.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50854759
>Gura is parasocial with her piggy's wallets.
No she's fucking not, she abandoned them just as much.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50820224
Deep underground is a safe spacem

[Anonymous No.]

I'm meh on Gura but Calli's content is just... not enjoyable. I used to try watch her streams because I saw other people raving about her back in the day but was totally put off by her attitude and how bored she sounds constantly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50820224
I never want to hear you fags complain about twittertroons ever again after unironically using the term "safe space" for yourself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50820009
Anon:

>Faggot
>Genetic deadend
>A drain to govt funds
>Brainless

[Anonymous No.]

>>50823125
Both model and pilot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50823423
Garbage according to you and your unicorn buddies?

[Anonymous No.]

>>50819796
>Calli
Hmmmmmmm

[Anonymous No.]

>>50851293
It is impossible to defend a lying bitch who streams less than haachama and ayame. Doing so makes you look pathetic on all fronts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50824599
And with a hole squarely in the middle of their forehead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50820009
Mori
>Streams frequently

Gura
>Streams seldomly

[Anonymous No.]

>>50825690
>Spriting for a Holo game idea

Gaddamn, the possibility of my own oshi, my number one even, spriting for my fangame...


Aaaaaaaaaaaaa

[Anonymous No.]

>>50830346
explain, faggot

[Anonymous No.]

>>50826570
Tch, mf got found out and started deflecting to make Mori look worse. Pathetic and unbased.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50828046
>Gura vs Calli falseflagging
>myth
>They both from Myth

Kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>50828906
Heck, even their small corpo "good girls" oshi Mori. The other Nene/the other angel comes to mind.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50830142
And let those who seethe at a single pixel of a male avatar or a single decibel of a male voice have their dick explode the moment they even think of shitposting anywhere.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50838430
For them yes. They cant stand a "bad girl" getting Ws. Too bad!

[Anonymous No.]

>>50854834
That deadbeats are ragging on gura